[00:39] <RippSteakface> Could someone help me with trouble getting conky to start at boot? Specific to Xubuntu.
[00:43] <RippSteakface> 135 people in this channel and it's always dead. Sigh.
[00:45] <David-A> RippSteakface: what have you tried? and what was the problem?
[00:48] <RippSteakface> David-A: I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[00:49] <RippSteakface> David-A: For Xubuntu, no luck
[00:51] <RippSteakface> David-A: Created a new start-up application with Add+, named Conky, command "conky"
[00:55] <David-A> RippSteakface: does conky start as you want when you type conky in a terminal?
[00:56] <RippSteakface> David-A: I type "conky &" to start it, haven't tried just "conky"
[00:56] <RippSteakface> David-A: let me try one sec
[00:56] <RippSteakface> yeah "conky" starts it too
[00:57] <David-A> RippSteakface: its okay either way just to test that the config is allright
[00:57] <RippSteakface> David-A: "conky" starts it as well
[01:01] <David-A> RippSteakface: is there any message in ~/.xsession-errors thay may relate to conky, right after you logged in?
[01:01] <David-A> RippSteakface: (as you can see, I have no idea what the problem might be)
[01:02] <RippSteakface> David-A: How would I check that? Noob here :)
[01:03] <David-A> RippSteakface: do you prefer looking at text files with "less" in a terminal or with the texteditor, e.g. leafpad or mousepad?
[01:03] <RippSteakface> David-A: I can do terminal
[01:04] <RippSteakface> David-A: I just want to fix it, I'm sure it's easy I just don't know why it wouldn't work according to Ubuntu's page
[01:04] <David-A> RippSteakface: less ~/.xsession-errors
[01:05] <RippSteakface> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[01:05] <RippSteakface> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[01:05] <RippSteakface> Script for none started at run_im.
[01:05] <RippSteakface> Script for auto started at run_im.
[01:05] <RippSteakface> Script for default started at run_im.
[01:05] <David-A> RippSteakface: scroll forward with space and return, backward with b, go to end with >, exit with q
[01:06] <RippSteakface> David-A: That appears to be it.
[01:08] <David-A> RippSteakface: is your .xsession-errors only 5 lines? happy you, mine is 296 thousand lines.
[01:09] <RippSteakface> David-A: Yeah man, it's a new install and that's all it shows me. Scrolling forward doesn't do anything.
[01:09] <RippSteakface> David-A: To be fair the .conkyrc is a custom file that I edited a bit, and it's in /home/*name*/.conkyrc
[01:10] <RippSteakface> David-A: But it runs normally just opening the terminal and typing "conky"
[01:10] <David-A> RippSteakface: it should be used when you start conky in a terminal and we have verified that it works that way
[01:10] <RippSteakface> David-A: Right
[01:12] <David-A> RippSteakface: if conky fails with an error it should be in .xsession-errors. either it fails silently, or xfce hasn't even tried starting it.
[01:13] <RippSteakface> David-A: Makes sense, I have it in my application autostart list as named "Conky" and command "conky" and the box is checked.
[01:14] <David-A> RippSteakface: you said "trouble getting conky to start at boot". just to verify, you want it to start at *login*, right?
[01:14] <RippSteakface> David-A: Yes login :)
[01:15] <RippSteakface> David-A: Is it because I need some sort of privelages?
[01:15] <David-A> RippSteakface: stupid question, but you have logged out and in after adding it to "Session and Startup"?
[01:15] <RippSteakface> let me try
[01:15] <RippSteakface> woops tabbed
[01:16] <RippSteakface> David-A: Should I killall conky first?
[01:16] <David-A> RippSteakface: it should stop when you logout, but ctrl-c or kill it if you want
[01:18] <RippSteakface> David-A: Nothing. It also didn't save the position and size of my IRC window :(
[01:21] <David-A> RippSteakface: I am out of ideas. If there is a checkbox by the command in "Session and Startup", it is checked, I suppose.
[01:21] <RippSteakface> David-A: Yup I really have no idea. Could it be a permissions issue?
[01:22] <RippSteakface> David-A: I'm the only user but I don't know
[01:23] <David-A> RippSteakface: the process use/have the same permission as in the terminal when you try it. it's you in both cases.
[01:23] <RippSteakface> David-A: So odd. Thank you so much for trying to help me I'll just do it manually I guess.
[01:25] <David-A> RippSteakface: if you rename you .conkyrc to .conkyrc-temporarly-moved, then you should get a default config. see if that works better?
[01:25] <RippSteakface> David-A: Ok
[01:26] <RippSteakface> David-A: .conkyrc has a command in it that says "total_run_times 0"
[01:26] <RippSteakface> David-A: Would that effect it?
[01:29] <David-A> RippSteakface: see "man conky". man normally lets you read the text in "less", so scroll and quit like mentioned before.
[01:30] <David-A> RippSteakface: in the man page (and in less) you can search using / to enter a search pattern, and n and N to search for next and previous match.
[01:31] <RippSteakface> David-A: ok
[01:31] <David-A> RippSteakface: in man conky you can search for /configuration settings
[01:32] <David-A> RippSteakface: then scroll forward using space to see all keywords, millions of them
[01:32] <RippSteakface> David-A: Hah ok
[01:32] <David-A> RippSteakface: or search for /total_run_times if you are inpatient
[01:33] <RippSteakface> David-A: Trying now
[01:33] <RippSteakface> David-A: 0 makes it run forever, that's it
[01:34] <RippSteakface> David-A: It's ok man, maybe I'll post on the forums or something - thank you so much for spending your time helping me.
[01:34] <RippSteakface> David-A: I have to go for now, thanks! :)
[01:35] <David-A> RippSteakface: so here we are scratching eachothers head. it should be fine, but isnt.
[01:35] <David-A> ok, forum is good
[01:35] <David-A> bye
[01:54] <Blue_Knight> !ping
[01:57] <Blue_Knight> !ping
[05:50] <meek_geek> how to configure dnscrypt in xubuntu ?
[05:54] <xubuntu567> i m using xubuntu 14.4
[05:55] <xubuntu567> but m not able to use bluetooth on my laptop
[05:56] <xubuntu567> m using Dell Latitude D410
[06:42] <JarekMk> hi
[06:42] <JarekMk> problem with brother dcp 315j
[06:43] <JarekMk> I've downloaded drivers from brother site, installed but on printer list there's no 315 - why?\
[06:43] <JarekMk> in 13.04 worked perfectly
[06:44] <JarekMk> any suggestion?
[08:28] <p1ro> 3	0.023829	10.135.0.10	10.135.4.30	TCP	66	52830 > telnet [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1 Win=29312 Len=0 TSval=70630082 TSecr=23129349  <---python
[09:36] <xCiccio986> hi all
[09:37] <xCiccio986> how to get support here?
[09:39] <koegs> xCiccio986: just ask and try to give as many details about your problem as you can :)
[09:40] <xCiccio986> ok
[09:40] <xCiccio986> my browser "Opera" does not work well with facebook
[09:41] <xCiccio986> I think I have a problem with the plugin adobe flash player
[09:42] <xCiccio986> ii  flashplugin-installer                     11.2.202.356ubuntu0.14.04.1           amd64        Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[09:43] <xCiccio986> i don't have any problems with firefox
[09:44] <xCiccio986> the pages are very slow.
[09:52] <xCiccio986> there are no solutions?
[09:52] <koegs> so you dont have problems with firefox but with opera?
[09:53] <xCiccio986> yes
[09:54] <xCiccio986> the pages are blocked, you load with difficulty... with opera
[09:54] <koegs> i am not an opera user, but the wiki offers some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#Very_slow_to_start_loading_pages
[10:51] <ronaldsmazitis> wassup
[11:46] <Ergo_Proxy> Wait how do I open a folder as root?
[11:48] <slickymasterWork> Ergo_Proxy: To open the folder as root in the grapical file manager, run the following command: sudo -i
[11:48] <slickymasterWork> Ergo_Proxy: and after that thunar &
[11:51] <Ergo_Proxy> Alright, thanks slickymasterWork
[11:51] <slickymasterWork> np
[11:56] <koegs> well, it is not recommend to use sudo with graphical apps for a reason: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo
[11:58] <slickymasterWork> koegs: you're absolutely right, but since 14.04 onward gksu and/or gksudo isn't shipped anymore, hence the necessity to use sudo -i
[11:59] <slickymasterWork> that way you'll be launching the graphical application from a root prompt, not using sudo with graphical apps
[12:01] <koegs> ok, nice info, i just installed gksu :)
[12:22] <xubuntu051> who am i
[13:34] <Guest47470> hi
[13:35] <Guest47470> how do I shutdown x, not just lightdm on xubuntu
[13:39] <baizon> Guest47470: http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/xkill/
[13:40] <baizon> is it this what you search for?
[13:40] <Guest47470> baizon: I mean the whole server
[13:41] <Pici> shutting down lightdm does kill x though...
[13:41] <baizon> thats why i dont understand hes question
[14:26] <Akeif> Hey guys, one of my coworker keep saying to use Debian instead of Xubuntu because of : 1. Ubuntu is not fully open sourced. 2. Ubuntu is insecure.
[14:26] <Akeif> I still kinda think he might be sold out :p
[14:29] <xubuntu720> hello, i can't find in settings how to auto-login with a user at boot ?
[14:37] <ElderDryas> xubuntu720: http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm has several options.  I just usually just edit the .conf file myself, two lines and you're done :)
[14:42] <xubuntu720> thanks ElderDryas
[14:42] <ElderDryas> np
[14:43] <xubuntu720> but is it OK for 14.04 ?
[15:26] <goneeuro> can someone help with this error?
[15:26] <goneeuro> ./ccg_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_net-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:27] <goneeuro> Im running 64bit. I found this lib in usr/libs so I know its on the system.
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> goneeuro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133602/error-trying-to-run-gccg-while-loading-shared-libraries-libjpeg-so-62-cannot-o
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> goneeuro, sorry that's not the right link
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> goneeuro: see this one instead -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/143393/shared-libsdl-library-fails-to-open
[15:32] <genii> Likely it's a 32bit binary and you have 64bit libraries, so it's looking for them in the wrong place
[15:33] <goneeuro> Thats what I am guessing also. I just cant figure out the command to install the correct binarys
[15:35] <genii> goneeuro: I'd probably do: sudo dpkg --add-architecture  i386 ...then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    ( which should pull in all the 32 bit apps and libraries of whatever you already have installed)
[15:37] <eugene_> hey to everyone, I have couple of problems with xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-14.04, that prevent me from using it. Maybe somebody know how to resolve this: 1. Keyboard shortcuts take long time to react, especially after login (seconds), 2. Logout doesn't se.em to work all the time, even when shortcuts start responding
[15:37] <goneeuro> genii: Tried that and it didnt pull anything down. I have all the libs installed I believe. Its just that gccg is not finding it.
[15:37] <eugene_> I did some search on this topic, and didn't find anything useful, maybe someone would have ideas how to resolve this. Thank you.
[15:39] <goneeuro> slickymasterWork: Thanks for the links, but im still stuck.
[15:40] <genii> goneeuro: Maybe try: sudo apt-get install libsdl-net1.2 :i386
[15:41] <goneeuro> genii: E: Unable to locate package
[15:41] <genii> goneeuro: What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[15:41] <genii> !info libsdl-net1.2
[15:41] <goneeuro> 14.04
[15:42] <genii> goneeuro: Do you have universe repository enabled?
[15:45] <goneeuro> genii: yes I do. But the wife just called me so I have to go out now. Thanks for the help and I will be back on in a little while. Thanks again.
[15:45] <genii> goneeuro: I'll be here for about another 5 hours if you need asistance later :)
[16:35] <tropoMobi> Hi! Today 2 of my computers died suddently and they won't install ANY OS no more. Can i be so unlucky or is there something going on right now?
[16:35] <tropoMobi> Both had xubuntu 14.04
[16:37] <drc> tropoMobi: You have more than 2 computers?  i.e., some of them are still working?
[16:38] <genii> Maybe you had a power mains isue that damaged both systems at once
[16:38] <drc> that was my next point :)
[16:38] <tropoMobi> The other computer is 400 km away
[16:39] <tropoMobi> The issue is same
[16:39] <drc> tropoMobi: so you have 2 computers 400 km apart and both basically died at the same time?
[16:39] <tropoMobi> Both loads Grub and i choose Ubuntu and then nothing else but power off
[16:40] <tropoMobi> Not exact time but same day
[16:40] <tropoMobi> This is very weird
[16:41] <drc> Did you make <any> changes to the machines before thy started acting strange?
[16:41] <tropoMobi> I try to install for example win 8.1 or other Linux distro and they just hangs up at the very beginning of the instalation like loading UI
[16:42] <tropoMobi> Just normal update & upgrade from lates official xubuntos repos
[16:43] <tropoMobi> I really can't believe for bad luck but maybe i should...
[16:43] <tropoMobi> I just wanted info this if there comes more broken computers
[16:44] <drc> I just re-installed and updated this machine about an hour ago, so (for me) they systems works fine.
[16:45] <tropoMobi> I ran hdd test and memtest from both and they were ok
[16:45] <drc> I'd concentrate on what happened to the first machne (I'm guessing whatever it was also affected the second).
[16:46] <tropoMobi> It's very weird because the hardware is damaged some how now
[16:48] <starrats> been reading this back and forth, there's a 'bug' in one of the machines
[16:48] <drc> If you are sure the hardware in damaged, then I'd say replace the damaged hardware and start over.  If it is truely damaged, no tinkering will fix it.
[16:49] <drc> starrats: are you talking about tropoMobi's problem?
[16:49] <starrats> especially if the comps are 400 clicks away from each other.
[16:49] <starrats> yes
[16:50] <drc> and that's klicks...clicks are for mice :)
[16:50] <starrats> old Army term click = kilometer
[16:50] <drc> I agree...my guess is whatever happened to the first machine he/they/gremlins also did to the second.
[16:51] <drc> starrats: I know, I spent 22 years there :)
[16:51] <starrats> lol, ok
[16:51] <drc> troposphere: Tell us exactly what you/someone did that led to the problem (install, update apps, upgrade...whatever)
[16:52] <starrats> drc could the disc he used be corrupted some how, to me that's the gist of it
[16:52] <troposphere> ok, both had team viewer because the other cpu is 400 km as i said and my mother uses it
[16:53] <troposphere> very basic installation in both
[16:53] <troposphere> i rw
[16:53] <drc> back in ~2 minutes...dog wants outside.
[16:53] <troposphere> updates and cobfiguration was also defaults from default repos
[16:54] <troposphere> okies :)
[16:55] <troposphere> both computers are about 6 years old so atleast i didn't lose so much money... i also have 2 dedicated servers with Ubuntu server 14.04 but they are different story.
[16:59] <troposphere> updated and rebooted normally today those 2 dedicateds. Those 2 computers died on the fly... First one was at Grub menu today when i switched the monitor on and the other died meanwhile using Chromium
[17:06] <troposphere> I leave this client here and wish that this will not happend to anybody else. Now i start to watch a movie. :)
[17:06] <drc> ok
[17:19] <vabi> hello, is there any way to set "long" - two displays wallpaper without editing it and setting different parts on both displays?
[18:31] <vpily> pick cancel instead of star upgrade while upgrading xubuntu, how can i upgrade it now?
[18:43] <xangua> Hi, how can I restore the notifications position or reset the configuratin? even when I have slected notifications popups to appear in the upper right corner they appear kind of in the middle http://i.imgur.com/UkOE6cN.png
[18:48] <drc> xangua: Works fine for me (big help I know)...is there anything special about your display...effects, dual screen, etc?
[18:49] <xangua> It was working fine this morning until  I started to try themes, set up conky and plank dock
[18:50] <drc> xangua: I'd set the display back to the defaults then make one change at a time until you find the problem (unless someone has an answer for you now)
[18:51] <drc> That's assuming that setting it back to defaults cures the problem.
[18:51] <cavac> I installed xscreensaver and removed light-locker in a new 14.04 install. Clicking "Lock screen" in the Action Buttons applet locks the screen, but suspending the laptop does not. Any guesses on how to fix this?
[18:53] <cavac> Power Manager/Extended has the "Lock screen on hibernate/suspend" checked.
[18:53] <drc> cavac: Well that answers the question I was typing.
[18:54] <xangua> I just played with the notifications position and restored it to the upper right, this was weird
[18:55] <cavac> I'm not sure how Xubuntu does suspend. Upstart script?
[18:55] <drc> xangua: gremlins :)
[19:10] <cavac> Ah, found it!
[19:11] <cavac> In addition to checking the lock screen checkbox in Power Manager/Extended you *also* have to go to "Session and Startup/Advanced" and under "Shutdown" check "Lock screen before sleep".
[19:14] <cavac> Somehow it doesn't make sense that you have to active the option in two completly different Settings dialogs to do essentially the same thing.
[19:15] <cavac> Here's the link to the instructions i followed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/259190/xubuntu-no-password-request-after-suspension
[19:19] <Kekai> I ha ve a circle with an exclamation mark in it in my tool bar for updates
[19:19] <Kekai> How do I make it go away?
[19:19] <xangua> install secutiry updates¿
[19:19] <Kekai> I did
[19:27] <nispr0> where is the workspaces in 14.04?
[19:28] <xangua> righ clic panel-add-workplaces
[19:46] <dreamer> Kekai: reboot
[19:46] <Kekai> its gone now
[19:47] <Kekai> anyone know of a mass id3 tag editor where It changes files tags for ubuntu
[19:48] <drc> I use Easytag
[19:48] <dreamer> easytag++
[19:49] <drc> But a quick check shows at least a dozen during a search for id3
[19:50] <Pici> picard is good too
[19:50] <drc> I have also used Ex Flaso in the past, but prefer Easytag
[19:51] <drc> kirk was better :)
[19:52] <David-A-Kenobi> I think Easytag has better user interface than Exfalso. but I have experienced that Easytag may update files in a dir I visited without the intention to actually change any tags there.
[19:55] <David-A-Kenobi> Kekai: I don't remember the details, but maybe it was easytag decided by itself to copy ver1 tags to ver2 tags on files that did not have ver2 tags.
[20:08] <Kekai> I used to use one in windows
[20:08] <Kekai> I forgot the name of it
[20:08] <Kekai> but during the move frm windows to ubuntu my songs got messed up.
[20:09] <Kekai> I been meaning to do it sooner since its been a year, but stuff came up
[20:12] <Israphel2> easytag is the way to go
[20:12] <Israphel2> and yes it does auto-update tags
[20:33] <waldir> Hi, I'm running 12.04 but the update manager isn't showing me the notice to upgrade to 14.04 ... is there something I need to set manually?
[20:34] <drc> IIRC, it will when 14.04.1 is released, not 14.04 itself
[20:34] <genii> Yes
[20:34] <waldir> oh, really? why?
[20:37] <drc> I suspect that they want to ensure any remaining problems are ironed out before updating the LTS/stable release.
[20:37] <drc> and there are <always> problems :)
[20:38] <waldir> lol even after the LTS :P
[20:38] <waldir> but I thought that was the point of the RCs...
[20:39] <waldir> besides, in my other laptop I did get prompted to upgrade (although I think it told me to upgrade to 13.10, but ended up actually upgrading all the way to 14.04.. at least that's what lsb_release says
[20:39] <drc> The problem is that the pool of testers (and their hardware) at all stages is small...no way catch <everything>...after a release there are always problems no one even thought of.
[20:41] <vladimir_> hi guys, i would like how to set full numix theme on 14.04 xubuntu, I mean full because when I set it it only change the panel theme, and not the entire interface like menus, icons  or menu manager
[20:42] <vladimir_> so I;m stuck with greybird
[20:43] <drc> I have no idea what a "full numex" is, but did you also change the Window Manager to numex?
[20:43] <waldir> drc: I guess in the other laptop I wasn't using an LTS so I did get prompted, but in this PC I'm on 12.04
[20:43] <vladimir_> numix theme
[20:43] <vladimir_> sorry
[20:44] <waldir> drc: I'm saying this because of this quote: "Upgrades between LTS releases are not enabled by default until the first point release" from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/
[20:44] <waldir> that would explain the discrepancy between the two machines
[20:44] <drc> waldir: That's what I was refering to.
[20:44] <waldir> got it :)
[20:46] <Kekai> easy tag is a tar.XZ
[20:46] <Kekai> I got it unzipped, but what do I run
[20:46] <junka> is there a script to make xchat notify me with xfce notifications when someone highlight my nickname
[20:50] <drc> Kekai: Use either the Software Center or Synaptic...it's in the repos
[20:50] <Kekai> ah
[20:50] <drc> junka: It's internal to xchat
[20:50] <Kekai> I was using the tar
[20:51] <drc> junka: Preferences>Chatting>Alerts, IIRC
[20:53] <junka> thanks drc !
[20:53] <drc> junka: np
[20:55]  * starrats prefers hexchat for notifications and weechat for a lttle notifications, lol
[20:55] <vladimir_> so could anyone have a clue how to set numix ?
[20:55] <vladimir_> i mean I want even buttons on vlc to be numix
[20:55] <vladimir_> and I can't set it
[20:55] <vladimir_> ?
[20:58] <junka> starrats, hexchat does not appear in indicator-messages :(
[20:58] <drc> vladimir_: No real idea (seeing as how I'm totally ignorant of numix) but this might be a start  http://numixproject.org/#artwork
[20:59] <Dry_Lips> vladimir_ have you downloaded and installed the numix icon theme? Or just the gtk?
[20:59] <skribblezatcha> pidgin does junka.
[21:00] <vladimir_> no just
[21:00] <vladimir_> the default
[21:00] <vladimir_> numix after I installed 14.04
[21:01] <starrats> I was just on FB and hexchat lit up like a beacon and i came over here to read what you just posted junka
[21:01] <drc> vladimir_: There is also this:  http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/install-numix-icon-packs-in-ubuntulinux.html
[21:01] <Dry_Lips> vladimir_ you're referring to the actual buttons in the VLC program?
[21:02] <Dry_Lips> Because I don't think those buttons are in the icon theme
[21:02] <Dry_Lips> They are native to VLC
[21:03] <vladimir_> Dry_Liphttp://i1.wp.com/smdavis.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/trusty_numix.png
[21:03] <vladimir_> ?
[21:03] <drc> vladimir_: Some apps have their own icons/button/etc that are (calibre and vlc come to  mind).  No matter what icon set you have they won't change.
[21:03] <vladimir_> see the play button
[21:04] <drc> vladimir_: That's parole, not vlc
[21:05] <vladimir_> ohhh... I see.. I'm sorry
[21:05] <vladimir_> :D
[21:05] <vladimir_> i'm newbie
[21:05] <vladimir_> :)
[21:05] <Dry_Lips> :)
[21:06] <drc> Being a newbie is not a crime...staying one is :)
[21:07] <starrats> junka maybe because I have 4 workspaces and hexchat is dedicated to a workspace and it lights up that way.
[21:08] <rasmus_> hi, is there anyone out there whos got a fair bit of knowledge regarding A2DP and xubuntu ?
[21:09] <junka> starrats, :)
[21:10] <starrats> Facebook beeps at me to lewt me know someone is posting something i'm following
[21:10] <starrats> let
[21:13] <rasmus_> wait.. was that a response to me, or is this because i entered the channel midway through a conversation ?
[21:16] <Unit193> rasmus_: He was talking to someone else.
[21:16] <starrats> not you rasmus_
[21:16] <rasmus_> thought so aswell :P
[21:17] <Unit193> Whoever was looking, hexchat does have an indicator plugin, but it's mainly cp xchat-indicator hexchat-indicator
[21:30] <Kekai> I need help
[21:31] <rasmus_> go on .. ?
[21:31] <Kekai> I was changing my workspace settings and the counter got stuck scrolling through the numbers
[21:31] <Kekai> now my work space switcher is freaking out
[21:32] <rasmus_> which panel are you using ?
[21:32] <Kekai> 0
[21:32] <rasmus_> no i mean like xfce or .. ? :P
[21:32] <Kekai> XCFE
[21:32] <rasmus_> Could you revert to defaults ?
[21:33] <Kekai> no
[21:33] <rasmus_> hmm
[21:33] <Kekai> it stpped once I removed the switcher
[21:33] <Kekai> I dont need it
[21:33] <rasmus_> ok
[21:40] <starrats> loves his workspaces!
[21:41]  * adrenaline_ +1
[21:42] <starrats> 4 workspaces for me
[21:42] <starrats> all dedicated to individual opearations
[21:43] <starrats> operations
[21:44] <adrenaline_> I have 4 works spaces and on one of my workspaces I have a nx session to my home where I have 4 more workspaces.
[21:50] <starrats> cool adrenaline_
[21:52] <starrats> I have had no trouble with the 'switcher', 3 of my workspaces include hexchat/weechat, firefox, thunderbird, the 4th I leave open fo other apps or terminal.
[21:53] <starrats> learn this from the old gang i hung out with back in the my early days of linux.
[21:54] <adrenaline_> Ya I have 3 workspaces dedicated for work then my fourth is dedicated for home. Works out pretty good.
[21:57] <starrats> If I didn't have 'workspaces' then i probably wouldn't be using Linux that much.
[22:36] <eegore> is there an apt command to remove older versions of the kernal?
[22:37] <eegore> boot is full and I can no longer update
[22:41] <adrenaline_> I always run a cli command to do that like if this is an old kernel vmlinuz-3.2.0-54-generic I would do a sudo rm -rf *.54-* and it will take out all of the kernels and maps etc that are that have that number in the name
[22:41] <adrenaline_> You may need to do it to a few kernels if you have a lot
[22:43] <adrenaline_> sorry it isn't *.54-* it is *-54-* and it works I just tested it as I actually do have that kernel
[22:44] <adrenaline_> Then do a df -h to see how much space you have now.
[22:45] <adrenaline_> do you have any questions?
[22:45] <adrenaline_> eegore,
[22:47] <eegore> I was thinking of trying apt-get autoremove
[22:48] <adrenaline_> try it
[22:48] <eegore> Looks like that is working
[22:48] <adrenaline_> I do mine manually is why I scripted it, but if that works too go for it
[22:49] <adrenaline_> Looks like autoremove takes all of them out but two. I wonder if there are options to how many you can keep
[22:51] <adrenaline_> actually it looks like autoremove only removes headers
[22:52] <adrenaline_> maybe not I am testing it now
[22:52] <adrenaline_> It is Erroring out like crazy
[22:53] <David-A> eegore: see if Computer Janitor (in the software center) has an option to remove old kernels or set a limit how many to keep.
[22:54] <eegore> This is an ultra book UX71A, biggest hard drive I can get for it is 256 GB
[22:54] <adrenaline_> Ya auto remove didn't clean it up as good as I do manually
[22:54] <David-A> eegore: I think the sudo rm think 1) requires a preceeding cd /boot and 2) does not save as much space as actually un-installing the kernels.
[22:54] <eegore> and it is smaller than some USB stcks
[22:55] <eegore> I have to keep the software in it as minimal as possible
[22:55] <adrenaline_> You are right you do have to cd /boot but it does remove all of the kernels you specify plus the maps and configs so It does create lots of disk space
[22:56] <eegore> the drive itself is about the physical size of 5 postage stamps end to end
[22:56] <adrenaline_> I have to use it a lot because my boot is 229M and it fills up about every 3 months or so I go ahead and delete about 5 kernels and keep about 3 to be save
[22:57] <adrenaline_> If cd /boot and ls you will see what I am talking about
[22:58] <adrenaline_> if you rm -rf *-55-* it will delete any directory of fill with -55- in the name.
[22:58] <eegore> the i7 cpu, memory and mobo take up only a third of the laptop
[22:59] <eegore> the rest is all battery
[22:59] <eegore> and weighs only pond and three quarters
[23:02] <David-A> eegore: forget my comment about Janitor. it seems it is not available for recent ubuntus.
[23:03] <eegore> I am running an encrypted drive as well as an encrypted home directory
[23:54] <starrats> just got this link on the xuvbuntu page on FaceBook should we as Linux usrs be concerned or just bow down and start using chrfome/chromium?    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/flash-linux-future.html