| slangasek | bdmurray: update-manager -d on trusty fails for me with 'Failed to download repository information' - any idea why? | 00:11 |
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| bdmurray | slangasek: try with DEBUG_UPDATE_MANAGER=1 set | 00:30 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: seems fairly nondescript: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7455113/ | 00:31 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.conf from lts to normal | 00:32 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: hmm; surely -d should override that? | 00:33 |
| slangasek | (so I think that's a bug, even if editing it works around it) | 00:33 |
| bdmurray | lts sets lts in the url, so -d with lts just means you want the devel version of the next lts | 00:34 |
| slangasek | ah, that's nonintuitive | 00:34 |
| slangasek | anyway, same error | 00:35 |
| slangasek | (assuming that /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is the right file, since that's the one that exists / is owned by the package) | 00:35 |
| slangasek | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7455126/ | 00:36 |
| bdmurray | new dist: <UpdateManager.Core.MetaRelease.Dist object at 0x7f68e3e369b0> | 00:36 |
| bdmurray | so that looks right to me | 00:36 |
| slangasek | yeah... still gives the error about failing to download repo info | 00:36 |
| slangasek | and does not offer me an upgrade | 00:36 |
| slangasek | so that seems to be because I have some repos in sources.list that are not currently accessible | 00:37 |
| bdmurray | ah yeah that sounds familiar | 00:37 |
| bdmurray | I can't find the bug right away though | 00:40 |
| slangasek | hmm | 00:43 |
| slangasek | but after disabling them, I no longer get the error but I also don't get offered to upgrade | 00:43 |
| slangasek | possibly because it doesn't like me for continuing to postpone the "you must reboot NOW" dialog :) | 00:43 |
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| cjwatson | doko: Are the powerpc builders just on manual in order to schedule gcc-4.9 on sagari? If so can they be re-autoed now? (Guessing as to somebody who might know ...) | 10:31 |
| doko | cjwatson, yes, reenabled | 10:31 |
| cjwatson | Thanks | 10:32 |
| doko | would take 24+h else | 10:32 |
| cjwatson | Sure, I have no problem with shoving stuff on sagari, just wanted the rest of the queue to clear :) | 10:33 |
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| mlankhorst | so who's going to work on 12.04.5? | 12:37 |
| Mirv | hi. out of the trusty's unapproved GStreamer updates, if you can work only on one of them, please try to get gst-libav approved which alone fixes a very visible crasher when seeking h.264 files (including any totem thumbnailer usage since it seeks first) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | infinity, SpamapS, Daviey, slangasek, arges: hey, is there any chance some of you could spend some time on the trusty SRU queue this week? We have some important fixes waiting for 3 weeks :/ | 14:12 |
| arges | seb128: sure i'll spend some time today | 14:12 |
| seb128 | arges, thanks! | 14:13 |
| arges | seb128: so bug 1312305 bumps gst* packages to 1.2.4 from 1.2.3. some of these haven't landed in utopic yet. should we wait until these land there and get some testing before updating trusty? | 14:20 |
| seb128 | arges, well, we can do that, I was expecting those to be approved to proposed and pocket copied to utopic | 14:21 |
| seb128 | which we often do early in the cycle | 14:21 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ I think the ones with changes are yours | 14:22 |
| seb128 | (gst and base are synced to utopic already) | 14:22 |
| dpm | hi all, also following up on the previous comment, could someone help with approving the Qt upload in the Unapproved queue? It fixes a Qt regression that affects running and developing the Reminders app on the desktop. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= - ScottK, perhaps? | 14:22 |
| Laney | arges: I thought they would be copied up when I did them | 14:38 |
| Laney | (IIRC) | 14:38 |
| Laney | I can upload them too at the same time, would appreciate simultaneous verification in proposed though if possible | 14:38 |
| arges | Laney: I'm just not 100% sure how to handle these, so I'd like to get input from infinity, slangasek, bdmurray, etc about reviewing the gst* packages | 14:44 |
| Laney | wait | 14:45 |
| seb128 | arges, just because of the utopic upload thing? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | arges, because e.g gstreamer1.0 has 1.2.4-1 in utopics | 14:45 |
| seb128 | same for -base | 14:45 |
| Laney | didn't I upload them all already? | 14:45 |
| Laney | to U, that is | 14:45 |
| arges | Laney: there are some that are fix committed in 1312305 | 14:46 |
| seb128 | seems you did | 14:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, you probably didn't update the bug status | 14:46 |
| Laney | oh I guess because sync | 14:46 |
| Laney | yep | 14:46 |
| seb128 | those are mine :p | 14:47 |
| seb128 | arges, sorry about the confusion, everything is in utopic, I just failed to set to "fix released" the one that got autosynced from Debian | 14:47 |
| Laney | done now | 14:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:49 |
| arges | Laney: seb128 so has any testing been done, or that will be done after it lands in -proposed? | 14:49 |
| arges | in trusty for 1.2.4 | 14:49 |
| seb128 | well, I'm running it locally since it got uploaded | 14:49 |
| seb128 | which is as much testing as we do before sending things to proposed | 14:50 |
| Laney | not for SRU purposes, that'll be done by people when they test proposed and give feedback to the bug | 14:50 |
| seb128 | that's why we have the "1 week in proposed" to get things tested | 14:50 |
| rtg | infinity, whats the story on -Werror=cast-align ? libnice started using it, but glib-2.0 is definitely not alignment safe for armhf (and perhaps for other arches I don't care about). https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743233 - Is it OK to just turn it off and continue take the performance hit for alignment traps ? | 15:43 |
| infinity | rtg: For arches that do alignment fixups (like armhf), it's just a performance penalty, so safe enough, but still bugs worth fixing. | 15:45 |
| rtg | infinity, I can fix some, but the glib-2.0 stuff requires deeper thought then I can give it. | 15:46 |
| rtg | plus, the fixes are probably less performant then just taking the trap | 15:46 |
| jamespage | bdmurray, just after you accepted my ceph upload for 14.04 upstream released a 0.80.1 | 15:48 |
| jamespage | bdmurry: I'm doing some testing via PPA and I'd like to upload that version in the next day or so if that's OK with you | 15:49 |
| bdmurray | jamespage: sure, just let me know | 15:50 |
| jamespage | bdmurray, ta | 15:50 |
| infinity | rtg: Yeah, if the "fix" is wasting a few hundred thousand cycles on mangling things in C to not misalign, you've lost the game. But sometimes, it's as simple as padding a struct correctly or something, and you're done. | 15:50 |
| infinity | rtg: Of course, for libraries, fixing alignment on public structs also breaks ABI, so sometimes it's pretty much unfixable without upstream buy-in and an SOVER bump. | 15:51 |
| rtg | infinity, thats what I'm thinking is the case for glib-2.0 | 15:51 |
| rtg | infinity, it looks like upstream added tihs test, and then never built with a compiler that implements it. | 15:52 |
| infinity | rtg: Of course. :P | 15:52 |
| rtg | doh! | 15:52 |
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| infinity | bdmurray: Hrm. Why doesn't sru-release have an option to set phasing? Do I just need to do it manually and hope to avoid override races? | 17:06 |
| infinity | bdmurray: (Have a tzdata upload to do that's critical because the changed timezone takes effect in two days, so phasing it to 100% pretty much will have to happen) | 17:07 |
| robru | hey guys, we have another unity8 release that needs a version bump. thanks! | 17:59 |
| infinity | robru: On it. | 18:00 |
| robru | infinity, thanks! | 18:00 |
| infinity | Man, the new colourful adt results in excuses are distracting. | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | haha | 18:03 |
| robru | infinity, hey. so looking at excuses, we have 4 different things that are blocked by a regression in ubuntu-purchase-service. I just published the fix for that though, so once it lands do I need to do anything special to get those tests to re-run? or will it see he new release, re-run, and then allow those 4 blocked things to migrate? | 18:07 |
| infinity | robru: The latter, modulo potential bugs in the system. | 18:08 |
| robru | infinity, sweet, ok thanks, will keep an eye | 18:08 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, I believe that should work. | 18:08 |
| michagogo|cloud | infinity: tz change with 2 days notice? o_O | 18:32 |
| infinity | michagogo|cloud: It's possible I've cursed a little bit this morning. | 18:33 |
| michagogo|cloud | infinity: reminds me: have you seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY yet? | 18:34 |
| michagogo|cloud | This specific point seems relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY&t=4m18s | 18:35 |
| infinity | michagogo|cloud: Nope. But given that (a) he's English, and (b) it's about timezones, I can only assume it'll be full of colourful language. ;) | 18:35 |
| michagogo|cloud | infinity: nah | 18:35 |
| infinity | Shame. | 18:35 |
| michagogo|cloud | Tom's videos are mostly pretty clean | 18:35 |
| Laney | Be glad that it's not about something which has already happened | 18:36 |
| michagogo|cloud | He's done a few for Computerphile, but he also does his own videos on his own channel | 18:36 |
| michagogo|cloud | Laney: hmm? | 18:36 |
| jpds | infinity: Got the OpenSSL exception in. ↑ :) | 18:38 |
| infinity | jpds: Snazzy. | 18:38 |
| infinity | jpds: Did you have problems explaining why that was necessary, or was it a low drama thing? | 18:38 |
| jpds | infinity: A little bit. Apparently libpam-mount doesn't have the exception. | 18:39 |
| seb128 | infinity, hey, you don't want to do some trusty SRU reviews by any chance? ;-) | 18:39 |
| infinity | jpds: Fun. That should be fixed. | 18:40 |
| seb128 | infinity, I guess it's a no? :-( | 18:41 |
| infinity | seb128: I'll do some, yeah. | 18:42 |
| seb128 | thanks | 18:42 |
| seb128 | sorry for being nagging, but we have important fixes in the queue for almost 3 weeks | 18:42 |
| infinity | seb128: If this is specifically about gst and webkit, we've been chatting about those internally. | 18:42 |
| seb128 | those are indeed the oldest one | 18:43 |
| seb128 | but gst-libav fixes some of the most reported e.u.c issues | 18:43 |
| seb128 | (totem thumbnailer hitting segfaults on building image for mkv files in nautilus) | 18:43 |
| infinity | seb128: Right, will have a poke today. | 18:45 |
| seb128 | thanks | 18:45 |
| infinity | michagogo|cloud: Oh man, I didn't know about the West Bank split timezone. That's utter madness. | 18:49 |
| arges | infinity: is it normal to have versions like "1.2.4-1~ubuntu1" (looking at the gst* stuff for trusty) I see 1.2.4-1 is already in utopic... | 18:50 |
| infinity | arges: Normal? No. But it sorts correctly, so it's certainly accetable from the archive's POV. | 18:51 |
| infinity | acceptable, too. | 18:51 |
| arges | infinity: ok yea I understand that... wasn't sure if we normally have versions with ~ | 18:52 |
| infinity | The security team (and I) would probably argue that ~ubuntu0.14.04 is easier to understand, but meh. | 18:52 |
| infinity | arges: We use ~ all over the place. It literally means "just before the preceding version atom". | 18:53 |
| michagogo|cloud | infinity: yeah, there's a related darwin award | 18:53 |
| michagogo|cloud | one sec | 18:53 |
| infinity | arges: So, -1 is >> -1~ but -0whee is << -1~ | 18:53 |
| arges | infinity: cool. yup I use it as well.. just didn't want ot get the archive all dirty | 18:53 |
| michagogo|cloud | infinity: http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-38.html | 18:54 |
| infinity | seb128: And when I said "I will look at it", clearly what I meant was "Chris will beat me to it". But I'll look at more of the queue later to see if we can empty it (or close). | 19:48 |
| seb128 | infinity, thanks ;-) | 19:48 |
| cyphermox | infinity: could you please look at urfkill in proposed? I'd like to fix the version number if possible ;) | 20:06 |
| infinity | cyphermox: Which series? | 20:09 |
| cyphermox | utopic, sorry | 20:09 |
| cyphermox | I should just upload a new version on top without the tilda | 20:09 |
| infinity | cyphermox: Erm, kay. Nothing for me to look at there, there's no queue involved. | 20:10 |
| cyphermox | no, there isn't, sorry | 20:11 |
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| rsalveti | trying to understand why dbus-cpp is still not promoted from proposed, and I see a failure at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt but don't really know what that means | 20:35 |
| rsalveti | robru: any idea? | 20:37 |
| slangasek | rsalveti: well, there's an soname change; have the reverse-dependencies been rebuilt? | 20:37 |
| rsalveti | slangasek: not the entire rev-dep, no | 20:38 |
| rsalveti | is that needed for promotion? | 20:38 |
| slangasek | right, all the revdeps need to be rebuilt first so the packages can transition together | 20:38 |
| infinity | rsalveti: What's needed is that upgrading it doesn't cause those other packages to become uninstallable. | 20:38 |
| slangasek | looks like libconnectivity-cpp0 is the only one missing | 20:38 |
| slangasek | (based on the last error, at the bottom of the file) | 20:38 |
| rsalveti | right, but would libdbus-cpp2 be removed from the archive after the update? | 20:39 |
| slangasek | yes | 20:39 |
| rsalveti | right, got it | 20:39 |
| rsalveti | thought it'd stay until nobody is depending on it anymore | 20:39 |
| infinity | It does stay. | 20:39 |
| slangasek | mmm? I thought we dealt with NBS in -proposed these days | 20:40 |
| slangasek | did cjwatson hack britney to do something different? | 20:40 |
| infinity | Britney assumes it'll be deleted. | 20:40 |
| infinity | It's still removed manually. | 20:40 |
| rsalveti | right | 20:40 |
| infinity | This makes things less painful in some cases. | 20:41 |
| infinity | But the transitions should mostly still happen in -proposed due to britney testing as if the binary was removed. | 20:41 |
| infinity | Which is good. | 20:41 |
| slangasek | ah; yet britney calculates the migrations using the assumption that it will be deleted | 20:41 |
| * slangasek nods | 20:41 | |
| rsalveti | cool, thanks guys | 20:42 |
| infinity | Anyhow, just looks like a straight rebuild of connectivity-api is needed. | 20:42 |
| infinity | Or whatever that was. | 20:42 |
| rsalveti | yeah, checking that | 20:42 |
| infinity | rsalveti: In future, the easiest way to read update_output is to search for the source you care about, and then search backwards (so you get the last mention in the file). | 20:44 |
| rsalveti | yeah, I saw the failure in there, but thought that having the old package around would already be enough | 20:44 |
| infinity | rsalveti: That'll show the autohinter attempts which, in this case, shows: | 20:44 |
| infinity | leading: dbus-cpp,media-hub,location-service,platform-api | 20:44 |
| infinity | * i386: libconnectivity-cpp-dev, libconnectivity-cpp0 | 20:44 |
| infinity | Much less scary than the first hit you see, that tells you half the distro is broken because of dbus-cpp. ;) | 20:44 |
| rsalveti | right :-) | 20:45 |
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| cjwatson | slangasek: right, partly this is because -proposed being a partial suite makes it tremendously painful to do anything else; but fortunately we get constrained into something that's roughly sane. ish | 20:56 |
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| bdmurray | infinity: I could add a phased_update_percentage switch if you want | 21:46 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Well, for today, I just hacked it for my needs. | 21:46 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: what do you think about release apport early? It'll mean slightly less database reapir work | 21:47 |
| infinity | bdmurray: But a switch for either initial-phase or just phased-on/off toggle would work. | 21:47 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: from trusty-proposed | 21:47 |
| infinity | bdmurray: That logic could be reused so that when calling with --security, we also don't phase. | 21:47 |
| infinity | bdmurray: (Since I assume we don't phase security, so it doesn't make sense to phase the updates copy) | 21:47 |
| bdmurray | infinity: we don't phased when called with security | 21:47 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Oh, no? Kay. | 21:48 |
| infinity | bdmurray: That's not how I read the code. | 21:48 |
| infinity | bdmurray: The way I read it, it'll phase to -updates, but not -security, which makes less sense. | 21:49 |
| infinity | Oh, no. | 21:49 |
| infinity | I missed that if. | 21:49 |
| bdmurray | if (release not in ['lucid', 'precise', 'quantal'] and | 21:49 |
| bdmurray | not options.security): | 21:49 |
| infinity | Yeah. | 21:49 |
| infinity | Derp. | 21:49 |
| infinity | I missed that cause it was also the series check. | 21:49 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: how well exercised is the fix for bug #1282349? That's the only one that looks intrusive enough to make me worry about early release | 21:51 |
| bdmurray | well its been in utopic for a couple of weeks now and the fixed package version doesn't appear in the errors bucket - https://errors.ubuntu.com/bucket/?id=/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk%3AEOFError%3A%3Clambda%3E%3Acollect_info%3Aexc_raise%3Arun%3Athread_collect_info%3Aadd_gdb_info%3Agdb_command%3Awrite%3Aread%3A_read%3A_read_eof%3A_read_exact | 21:54 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: ok, +1 | 21:55 |
| bdmurray | infinity: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/set-phased-update-percentage/+merge/219444 | 23:18 |
| darkxst | can bijiben and gnome-boxes be dropped from -proposed? they auto-synced but require gtk 3.12 | 23:42 |
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