[05:04] <Macer> does anybody here use lxc?
[05:04] <jpds> I imagine a lot of people do.
[05:04] <Macer> heh. i'm a bit curious. how do i assign an ip to a container on the same subnet as the host?
[05:05] <jpds> I imagine you'd need some sort of bridge set up on the host.
[05:05] <Macer> i'm having difficulty finding decent instructions
[05:06] <Macer> oh ok. so it HAS to be a bridge?
[05:06] <jpds> Yep, same as any other virt tech.
[05:06] <Macer> i just figured i could change the veth in the container to the same subnet but that seems like it would be a bit problematic
[05:07] <Macer> hm. i'll keep looking for some good instructions on how to do it. can't seem to find anything that is straightforward
[05:15] <Macer> https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge <- i'm guessing these similar instructions would work in ubuntu?
[05:20] <Macer> hm. that doesn't make sense. you lose the physical interface on the host and replace it with br0?
[05:38] <Macer> jpds: so let me get this straight.. if you remove eth0 from the host.. you can still access the internet on the host through the bridge with the ip?
[05:38] <Macer> that just seems strange
[07:08] <gigirock> hi all. I installed 'standard' a ubuntu 64 bit server , 13.10 version then upgraded to 14.04 version. I installed lamp as 'extra' packets and everythings seems fine. I need ssh or scp root access in order to connect directly for some programming, but i can't login as root in any way. Note that i'm trying to login form local lan and the server is on my local lan. Accessing to the server via ssh wi
[07:08] <gigirock> th the 'only one' user that i created during installation works properly and then i can use sudo to act as root. I already readed and searched some documentation about it ma all the  suggestions doesn't solve the problem.
[07:08] <gigirock> *ma=but
[07:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:13] <Ben64> gigirock: then make sure you have a root password and root login is enabled in sshd.conf
[07:14] <gigirock> Ben64, yes according with all the docs, i use PermitRootLogin yes in sshd_config
[07:15] <lordievader> gigirock: Have you given root a password? (as Ben64 says)
[07:21] <gigirock> lordievader, mmmh no i assume that the root user has the same password as the default user....
[07:21] <Ben64> and now you know what happens when you assume
[07:22] <lordievader> Hihi
[07:22] <gigirock> do you mean i have to give "passw root" command ?
[07:22] <Macer> gigirock: you have to sudo passwd root
[07:22] <Ben64> do "sudo -i" to give yourself a root shell, then you can use "passwd"
[07:23] <lordievader> The root users is disabled by default, that means it doesn't have a password. However it can still be used by logging in with other means (keys, sudo, etc). But you can also set a password for root.
[07:23] <Macer> also.. if it is just a matter of using a root shell you can always just sudo -s
[07:23] <gigirock> Damned.... the password can be the same of the only one user that i have on that server ?
[07:24] <Macer> you can set it to whatever you want
[07:24] <Macer> personally i'd use a different password for root but to each their own
[07:24] <gigirock> thank you... i will send a box of beer.......next time
[07:25] <gigirock> sorry people, i have another problem about that ssh , but on a centos server.... :)
[07:27] <Ben64> can't help you there
[07:27] <Macer> i'm still a bit confused about bridging
[07:27] <gigirock> Ben64, i have to switch to #centos-server  :) ?
[07:28] <Ben64> i'm not sure the channel for it
[07:28] <Macer> in ubuntu you disable the eth0 interface.. create br0 and use eth0 as its port ?
[07:28] <Macer> and you should still be able to hit the ubuntu box on the network ?
[07:30] <gigirock> Macer, as far ai I know you have to build a bridge in that way, but normally you will use br0 only for 'other' connection than your local connection
[07:31] <Macer> gigirock: yeah i'm trying to put lxc containers on the same subnet as the host
[07:31] <Macer> akin to fbsd jails
[07:31] <Macer> i guess this requires a bridge to be created on the host
[07:32] <Macer> so will the host using br0 with eth0 as its port just work like it normally would ?
[07:32] <Macer> https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge
[07:32] <Macer> i was just looking at that and noticed that eth0 is disabled in the example. it just seems odd to me
[07:32] <gigirock> Macer, i did something in the past but using two physical different eth board... then with routing and bridging
[07:33] <Macer> well i only have 1 physical nic
[07:33] <Macer> but i want to use lxc similar to how i was using jails in freenas
[07:33] <Macer> with the jails being on the same subnet
[07:34] <Macer> i guess by default it uses its own dhcp and nats it
[07:38] <lordievader> Macer: My server uses the br0 inteface for its network. The kvm vms tap into that bridge device.
[07:38] <Macer> ah ok. so the br0 simply acts as the net interface?
[07:38] <Macer> instead of eth0 on the host?
[07:39] <Macer> sorry. just never had to manually set up a bridge before that wasn't done automatically for me
[07:39] <Macer> and i guess this is the only way to get lxc containers onto the same subnet as the host
[07:39] <lordievader> It does act as eth0 here.
[07:39] <Macer> and all you have is eth0 with no ip and br0 with the host ip?
[07:40] <Macer> or something to that effect?
[07:41] <Macer> i'lll try it out when i'm next to the box
[07:41] <Macer> so i don't have an oops moment heh
[07:41] <lordievader> Macer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7456296/
[07:41] <lordievader> The vnets are the vm's.
[07:41] <Macer> oh ok... nice. thanks :)
[07:42] <Macer> actual VMs.. not lxc containers right?
[07:42] <Macer> i'm sure the setup is exactly the same tho
[07:44] <Macer> oh ok. it looks like it's pretty much by default setting up its own bridge..i'll have to toy with it later.
[07:44] <lordievader> Macer: Qemu-kvm vms, yes.
[07:44] <Macer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7456302/
[07:44] <Macer> so it makes sense that eth0 would be blank
[07:45] <Macer> thanks tho... that's awesome. appreciate it
[07:46] <lordievader> Macer: As you can see from my post, br0 is the master over eth0.
[07:48] <Macer> do you set that up when you make br0 in network/interfaces?
[07:48] <Macer> can i see your interfaces file on your host?
[07:49] <lordievader> Macer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7456307/
[07:49] <Macer> ah ok. that's pretty straightforward
[07:49] <Macer> i'm guessing it's set by the bridge_ports ?
[07:50] <lordievader> Nope, wrote it myself.
[07:50] <Macer> no i mean the "master" part
[07:51] <Macer> bridge_ports eth0
[07:51] <lordievader> Wrote that myself too ;)
[07:51] <Macer> in the lxc example there is no entry for eth0 tho
[07:51] <Macer> https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge
[07:51] <Macer> it says to comment out the entire section about eth0.. that's where i got a bit confused heh
[07:52] <Macer> in yours you still haveit enabled and set to manual
[07:52] <lordievader> I've used this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[07:54] <Macer> ah that's awesome. thanks a lot.
[07:54] <Macer> really needed that information :) i'll try it out when i'm in front of the box and see how it goes and set up lxc to be on the same subnet as the host
[07:54] <Macer> thanks again.
[07:57] <lordievader> Macer: No problem, have fun.
[08:35] <Macer> lordievader: hm. i managed it set up the bridge
[08:35] <Macer> but i can't seem to hit anything via the internet from teh lxc console
[08:35] <Macer> but i can ping internal ips
[08:35] <Macer> :/
[08:40] <lordievader> Macer: From the host can you ping everything?
[08:44] <Macer> yes
[08:44] <Macer> nameserver is the same as well
[08:45] <Macer> there really isn't anything about the need for routing afaik
[08:45] <Macer> the bridge and the container ip are correct
[08:45] <Macer> and i can ping the local IPs
[08:46] <lordievader> Macer: You probably need to allow your firewall to forward those packets: iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface br0 -j ACCEPT
[08:46] <lordievader> And possibly sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[08:46] <lordievader> And possibly "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1"*
[08:47] <Macer> nope
[08:47] <Macer> heh
[08:47] <Macer> that's odd because you'd think
[08:47] <Macer> that this would just act like a typical virtualized nic
[08:56] <Macer> have to be missing something here
[08:56] <Macer> forwarding didn't work
[08:56] <Macer> i think it may have to do with the lxc default config
[08:56] <Macer> if ican ping inernally i should be able to hit the outside
[08:57] <lordievader> Macer: You can ping the host and other machines on your network?
[08:58] <Macer> yes
[09:01] <Macer> how odd
[09:03] <lordievader> Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from a vm?
[09:06] <Macer> connect: Network is unreachable
[09:07] <Macer> no. can't ping outside IPs either
[09:07] <Macer> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.755 ms
[09:07] <Macer> but i can ping the internal gateway
[09:07] <Macer> :/
[09:07] <lordievader> How does your kernel routing look?
[09:13] <Macer> although i do keep getting some bridge made by lxc
[09:13] <Macer> not sure where it is coming from
[09:19] <Macer> oh i think i may have found the problem
[09:19] <Macer> although i have no i dea why but service networking restart isn't working
[09:19] <Macer> nor is running the script itself to restart
[09:22] <Macer> ok. got it
[09:22] <Macer> nice :)
[09:23] <Macer> it was because lxcbr0 was still enabled in /etc/default/lxc-net
[09:23] <Macer> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[09:23] <Macer> found that there
[09:23] <Macer> it's workign now :D awesome
[09:26] <Macer> so now i'm wondering what happens when lxc tries to update a kernel within the container
[09:26] <Macer> when i do an apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <lordievader> Congratulations :D
[09:35] <aandy> hi guys. unsure how to add aliases for a loopback device, i'm wondering if there's a way for me to *generate* /etc/network/interfaces based on the current interface setup (i.e. i've added the aliases using the `ip` utility)
[09:47] <aandy> anyone? this is an example, but not working: http://pastebin.com/USqgBYZ7 (line 6 is a misspelled option - 'address'?)
[09:48] <aandy> based on this http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking#Creating_Interface_Aliases
[10:00] <Macer> can you alias lo?
[10:22] <ivoks> aliases for lo are pointless
[10:23] <ivoks> once you have 127.0.0.1 you have 127.0.0.1 -> 127.255.255.254
[10:23] <ivoks> try pinging random ip from that range :)
[11:00] <stephank> smb: I tried reproducing the skb error using netcat and inetd echo earlier, but that didn't do the trick. Am now trying with redis pubsub.
[11:09] <stephank> Okay, can reproduce it with redis, but I'll respond to the bug.
[11:24] <vila> hi there, is this the right channel to ask about issues accessing az3.clouds.archive.ubuntu.com from a cloud instance ? (As in wget hangs at HTTP request sent, awaiting response)
[11:51] <pmatulis> did we end up implementing a kernel cleanup mechanism?
[12:12] <pmatulis> kirkland: i found a thread you started about this ↑ in 2012 on ubuntu-devel but it led to a dead-end.  anything change?
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[12:14] <andol> Tm_T: Thanks
[12:15] <lordievader> Thank you Tm_T :)
[12:15] <Tm_T> sorry for being slow
[12:44] <smb> stephank, Ah ok, I will read up there. Sorry was away for a bit.
[12:50] <ogra_> kirkland, congrats for going public !
[12:59] <smb> pmatulis, apt-get autoremove (--purge) should get you to keeping 2 (or 3, I cannot remember exactly) kernel versions since I believe Saucy
[14:05] <pmatulis> smb: oh really?  will look thanks
[14:57] <tomixxx7> hi, when i execute "java -version" i get meaningful result: "java version "1.8.0" ..." if i call the "java" command from within a bash file located in the same directory, i get "java: command not found"
[14:58] <patdk-wk> and?
[15:01] <tomixxx7> why?
[15:01] <tomixxx7> java is installed
[15:02] <tomixxx7> so the bash script including the java call should work
[15:05] <tomixxx7> ah i have also to modify bashrc and not only .profile
[15:19] <tomixxx7> nevermind
[15:28] <tomixxx7> i have still the same problem, "java" from within bash script does not work if i execute the bash script
[15:29] <tomixxx7> if i call "java -version" from the shell for example, it works
[15:29] <tomixxx7> (same directory)
[15:33] <rberg__> try putting the full path to java in the script
[15:34] <rberg__> sounds like its in the path for a interactive shell but not in the non-interactive shell path
[15:36] <tomixxx7> rberg__: i have already the full path in .profile file
[15:37] <tomixxx7> i have also set the full path in .bashrc
[15:38] <rberg__> and putting the full path in the script isnt working? or $(which java)
[15:39] <tomixxx7> reberg__ i will try it
[15:40] <tomixxx7> yep, putting full path in client bash script is working
[15:41] <rberg__> cool.. are you exporting PATH in your script? possibly overriding the one from .profile?
[15:42] <tomixxx7> now, iam exporting PATH in the client bash script, yes, but before u told me, there were no export statements in it
[15:42] <tomixxx7> i mean
[15:42] <tomixxx7> i set the -cp though
[15:42] <tomixxx7> java -cp ./bin:./bin/lib/* ...
[15:43] <tomixxx7> but this should not affect if java is working in general, i guess
[15:44] <rberg__> I dont know much about java really.. is cp class path?
[15:44] <tomixxx7> yep, additional class pathes, e.g. directing to directories containing depending jar files
[16:36] <raydeo> I have a couple upstart jobs created using the pattern described at the bottom of the section http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#another-instance-example
[16:36] <raydeo> basically a dummy job with no exec that starts some workers
[16:36] <darkxploit> hii anyone can help me how to transfer/ copy a file from VPS [SERVER] to LOCAL [MY-PC] using SCP please
[16:37] <raydeo> this works fine upon boot, however *very* consistently when I "stop workers" and then "start workers" the start will hang in start/starting state with no way for me to see what's happening or recover
[17:55] <sarkis> hey all, i have rsyslog watching some files and for some odd reason it just stops logging
[17:56] <sarnold> sarkis: did those files get rotated or renamed or something similar?
[17:56] <sarkis> i mean it doesn't write the watched files to /var/log/syslog as it should, no errors.. i did notice there is a profile being loaded up in /etc/default/rsyslog and then the profile is present in /etc/apparmor.d/disable
[17:56] <sarkis> sarnold: ah they do get rotated... interesting.
[17:57] <sarkis> sarnold: i think that is the problem, it works fine until the files are logrotated and then it stops ;(
[19:09] <parallel21> I have simple dnsmasq server setup and am unable to load images from twitters cdn. abs.twimg.com
[19:10] <parallel21> And if I disable dnsmasq everything works
[19:10] <parallel21> images from abs.twing.com will load, that is
[19:11] <parallel21> It happens to a few other sites, but most definitely with twitter's cdn services
[19:11] <N0C> Hello i was here yesterday and i talked to someone joesomething or somethingjoe, not to sure. Anyone know who i am talking about and if he is a regular around here?
[19:12] <Pici> Joey Jojo Shabadoo?
[19:12] <sarnold> N0C: that may have been dasjoe?
[19:12] <N0C> yes that sounds right
[19:12] <N0C> It was about an N54l microserver and making a BIOS update and some other things
[19:12] <sarnold> ah, that's what it was :)
[19:13] <N0C> So
[19:13] <N0C> i got the update going
[19:13] <N0C> it wrote a bunch of stuff
[19:13] <N0C> but now i am just left with a c:> blinking
[19:14] <sarnold> -probably- you just hit the power button -- I don't think freedos has any 'sync' or 'umount' or 'shutdown -h now' equivalent commands
[19:15] <N0C> Any ideas?
[19:16] <N0C> It looks like this https://imgur.com/xzPPtlY
[19:16] <N0C> I am fuckin scared to brick the thing
[19:16] <vlad_starkov> Question (cross-post on #ubuntu): How can I disable ufw/table to filter inter-bridge traffic? I tried "iptables -I FORWARD -m physdev --physdev-is-bridged -j ACCEPT" but it doesn't help.
[19:20] <jdstrand> vlad_starkov: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:21] <N0C> IT WORKED! GREAT SUCESS
[19:21] <vlad_starkov> Ubuntu Server 14.04 64bit
[19:21] <vlad_starkov> I'm also using bonds
[19:21] <vlad_starkov> so the config is eth -> bond -> bridge
[19:21] <jdstrand> vlad_starkov: you might be interested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ufw/+bug/573461/comments/12
[19:22] <vlad_starkov> jdstrand: nice :-)
[19:24] <sk1pper> hi all, I see some ICMP echo request from serverA to serverB, how can I find out which process is sending these ICMP packages?
[19:26] <vlad_starkov> jdstrand: made changes to /etc/sysctl.conf. now everything works :-)
[19:26] <vlad_starkov> jdstrand: thanks
[19:54] <jdstrand> nice!
[19:56] <RoyK> I wonder who might be interested in running a server with nested raids on ubuntu :P
[20:02] <genii> Well, i have a couple of these hanging around, so maybe: http://www.networkstorageantics.com/products/jet_stor_416s.php
[20:02] <genii> Actually, 5 altogether but 2 are different model
[20:08] <rberg__>  
[20:08] <rberg__> whoops
[20:09] <ahmadgbg> Hi, i wonder what is the difference between using postfix as an own mailserver or going threw my ISP's mailserver? My ISP has blocked port 25 :P
[20:10] <patdk-wk> it's not suppported to run email servers at home :)
[20:11] <ahmadgbg> i mean, is there a difference when running it threw my ISP ?
[20:11] <ahmadgbg> there isnt a problem if i do it like that right?
[20:12] <patdk-wk> there will be issues no matter what you attempt
[20:12] <ahmadgbg> like what?
[20:14] <dw1> i guess this is cool, right? https://pastee.org/f5za3 :-/
[20:16] <patdk-wk> dunno, I don't use lvm
[20:18] <dw1> im sure its fine..
[20:20] <dw1> "Don't worry. It is a problem of os-prober. Here an old quote way back from 2009:" https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=5438.0
[20:20] <dw1> meh
[20:21] <dw1> i dont understand it but whatever :p
[20:25] <dw1> tho maybe should file a bug report..... hrm
[20:28] <genii> Or, just add to bug 1313784
[21:07] <Macer> does anybody know where ubutntu sets up which lxc groups are auto-started?
[21:08] <Macer> by default nogroup is started.. i want to autostart groups on boot but can't seem to find out where it happens
[21:08] <Macer> i guess newer lxc just reads the autostart flag
[21:09] <sarnold> Macer: some details on autostart here: https://www.stgraber.org/2013/12/21/lxc-1-0-your-second-container/
[21:20] <Macer> sarnold: yeah i read that but it doesn't explain how to autostart by group
[21:20] <sarnold> Macer: ah :) I know just enough to be dangerous, hehe
[21:20] <Macer> heh
[21:20] <Macer> like if i set lxc.start.auto = 1 in the container.conf
[21:21] <Macer> then it will start but if i add the conainer to a group it does not
[21:21] <Macer> and i dont' understand where you set which groups auto start or how to get groups to auto start
[21:21] <sarnold> stgraber,hallyn, Macer has a question about lxc autostarting groups that I don't know how to answer :)
[21:22] <Macer>  By  default  only containers without a lxc.group set will be affected.
[21:22] <Macer> from the lxc-autostart man page
[21:22] <Macer> but it doesn't explain where that is set or where to set it or how to do it
[21:22] <Macer> nor does the lxc.conf man page.. nor does any other documentation i've read so far heh
[21:23] <Macer> i'm just trying to set which groups start on boot
[21:25] <hallyn> Macer: that is set in th e conatiner's configuration file
[21:26] <hallyn> Macer: it's actually hopefully going to be augmented soon so you can specify lxc.group = onboot,whatever or lxc.group = ,whatever , in either case it woudl be autostarted at boot
[21:26] <hallyn> (so you could ahve a container in a group but still have it autoboot)
[21:26] <hallyn> Macer: but if you haven't added a group to it, then it'snot in a group
[21:26] <hallyn> so just lxc.start.auto = 1 whould work
[21:27] <hallyn> (see the lxc.container.conf(5) manpage)
[21:27] <Macer> yeah i saw that. and i added the container to a group
[21:27] <Macer> but i don't see a way to autostart on boot
[21:27] <hallyn> correct, right now you can't autostart on boot if it's in a group
[21:27] <Macer> oh ok
[21:28] <hallyn> well, you can by editing /etc/init/lxc.conf ...
[21:28] <Macer> well. :) there's 30 minutes of my life i won't get back heh
[21:28] <hallyn> yeah, sorry, it's a bit convoluted.  hopefully it'll be cleaned up in the next few weeks
[21:28] <Macer> lol. np. but you might want to throw that out there in big bold letters hehe.. i was looking for some setting like above for the lxc.conf
[21:28] <Macer> something like
[21:29] <Macer> lxc.onboot.startgroups = group1 group2 etc
[21:29] <Macer> like you stated earlier heh
[21:29] <Macer> but thanks. i'm glad someone told me before i spent more time on it
[21:30] <hallyn> yeah - ii think that'd be a nice feature, but i dno't remember where we ende dup on that.  (autostart is stgraber's baby, i don't use it :)
[21:30] <hallyn> must run - o/
[21:30] <sarnold> thanks hallyn :)
[21:30] <Macer> so just going to throw stgraber under the bus huh? :)
[21:31] <Macer> thanks a lot hallyn .. appreciate the info
[21:31] <Macer> ok ... well i guess i can move on and start working with this container then
[21:32] <Macer> awesome stuff. been curious about having a linux "jail" that wasn't a chroot
[21:37] <hallyn> Macer: by all means do look at the seccomp, apparmor, and unprivileged container bits.  sarnold may be able to help you, or i shoudl be back ina  few hours, if you have any questions
[21:38] <hallyn> heh, under the bus - no i quite like the way he did it, we just need to find 'just the right' api, and i'm leaving that to him since he cares more than i do :)
[21:38]  * hallyn out
[21:42] <Macer> hallyn: lol. maybe soon. i'm setting up a container now to play with
[21:43] <dw1> genii: ahh, will do, thanks
[22:04] <phuh> how do i apt-get install specific package when there are multiple ones with the same package name? (added via ppa)
[23:32] <Macer> ubuntu server is surprisingly good
[23:56] <PryMar56> Macer, yes - less is more