[06:13] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:14] <jussi> oh cripes, its MooDoo. RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:14] <mapps> hey Monotoko
[06:14] <mapps> hey jussi
[06:14] <jussi> (morning MooDoo)
[06:14] <jussi> heya mapps
[06:14] <jussi> mapps: I thought you had stopped talking to me because I dont like 24
[06:14] <mapps> lol
[06:14] <MooDoo> jussi: mapps morning
[06:14] <mapps> very funny
[06:14] <mapps> :P
[06:26] <mapps> been offeed 1k/week if i shot pills
[06:27] <MooDoo> trials?
[06:27] <mapps> said to himi cant
[06:27] <mapps> ive got a job)
[06:27] <nigelb> Morning.
[07:10] <Myrtti> boo, my Ubuntu sticker is coming off my laptop
[07:12] <nigelb> I've seen that happen.
[07:12] <nigelb> Myrtti: keyboard?
[07:12] <nigelb> over the windows key?
[07:12] <Myrtti> no, the one Dell has stuck on the rubberyish surface of my laptop
[07:12] <nigelb> ah
[07:18] <selinuxium> Morning all o/
[07:19] <Myrtti> I'm just wondering how long do I have to wait until the laptop tells me I can update to Trusty
[07:20] <nigelb> I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop next month.
[07:20] <SuperMatt> DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN
[07:20] <MooDoo> I've got one :d
[07:20] <Myrtti> depends on what kind you're planning to get
[07:20] <Myrtti> I'd like to read about the differences between Chromebooks
[07:20] <nigelb> Lattitude in all probability
[07:21] <Myrtti> yeah, Latitudes are great, I've got E6430
[07:21] <nigelb> I'm looking at 6440. Comes with Ubuntu, which is great.
[07:21] <Myrtti> only thing that I'm not sure if it works is wifi n
[07:21] <Myrtti> fingerprint scanner obviously doesn't work
[07:22] <nigelb> Heh, my HP has a figerprint scanner which I forget about, because I never used it.
[07:22] <nigelb> I wish there were less plasticy laptops around.
[07:23] <MooDoo> nigelb: I've got a lattitude e6510 i think that's the number but don't quote me on it.
[07:23] <nigelb> Can either of you upgrade RAM on your laptops?
[07:23] <nigelb> Like, is it user serviceable?
[07:24] <nigelb> (bigger concern is harddisk, since I want to switch it out with my SSD.
[07:24] <MooDoo> nigelb: hdd yes, as mine is just a slip in on th side of the laptop
[07:24] <nigelb> Oh good.
[07:25] <MooDoo> that's not saying yours will be lol
[07:25] <nigelb> heh
[07:26] <MooDoo> nigelb: I'm not sure if mine is the E6510 or not, i'll check when I get home, but looking at crucial.com I can upgrade it to 8gb ram!
[07:27] <nigelb> The model I'm looking at comes with 8GB of RAM
[07:27] <nigelb> which is terrific since I'm on 2GB at the moment :)
[07:27] <nigelb> the speed on this laptop is soley because of SSD.
[07:28] <mapps> morning
[07:30] <jussi> nigelb: I can say with almost certainty the e6510 ram should be user upgradeable. (I have an e6500)
[07:30] <nigelb> jussi: thank you
[07:30] <nigelb> I like how ultrabooks look, but not being able to upgrade ram is a huge pain.
[07:31] <jussi> nigelb: most (all?) of the lattitude range have upgradeable ram iirc
[07:31] <nigelb> \o/
[07:31] <jussi> nigelb: but then again, mine is a generation or so old, so there is a _small_ chance I am incorrect
[07:32]  * jussi sips on his tea
[07:32] <nigelb> :)
[07:32] <nigelb> I wish it were cold enough for tea :(
[07:32] <nigelb> Or rather less hot.
[07:33] <nigelb> 33 to 35 C today. *wipes sweat*
[07:40] <mapps> I OD'd at kings but
[07:40] <mapps> i still love it
[07:40] <jussi> nigelb: tea is perfect for that heat. it warms your core, making your body do more cooling, making you feel cooler
[07:40] <mapps> maybe not od but had to go to hospital
[07:42] <MooDoo> jussi: I'm pretty sure I upgraded my lattitude, and that's not the newest machine, but I'll confirm tonight, would be nice if I can go from the 4gb i've got now to 8gb :)
[07:42] <mapps> so glad these peple work
[08:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Leprechaun Day! :-D
[08:02] <popey> Potato!
[08:08] <mapps> morning
[08:09] <jussi> potato leprechauns? :
[08:09] <jussi> :D
[08:12] <MartijnVdS> isn't that a sensitive issue? potato?
[08:14] <MooDoo> have you all been watching keith lemon again?
[08:16] <jussi> I have cold feet...
[08:24] <MooDoo> jussi: put smoe socks on
[08:25] <jussi> I have!!
[08:29] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:29] <jussi> morn davmor2
[08:33] <mapps> http://www.videoweed.es/file/z6hh2ff2jfwgp
[08:33] <mapps> sfw
[08:34] <mapps> its just 24 hrs ae
[08:34] <mapps> :)
[09:05] <diddledan_> mapps, I'm supposed to be working and you've got me watching 24 hours in ae
[09:05] <diddledan_> :-p
[09:09] <mapps> haha
[09:09] <mapps> 24 hours in ae is the 2nd best
[09:09] <mapps> the nurses/staff do an amazing job
[09:10] <diddledan_> indeed. I am in awe of a&e staff
[09:10] <mapps> but the real 24S BETTER:)
[09:11] <mapps> i donated £2500 about 7months back
[09:11] <mapps> to kings
[09:11] <mapps> id habe rather they all went out and had a night out etc
[09:11] <mapps> but no choice
[09:12] <mapps> a&e staff do a good job
[09:13] <diddledan_> the ambulance crews are awesome, too
[09:13] <mapps> yep
[09:13] <jussi> 2500 for a night out? o.O
[09:13] <mapps> thats why i said i wanted it to go to their xmas party
[09:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:14] <mapps> diddledan_ theres a lot of stafff remembe
[09:14] <mapps> jussi-it was a donation in kind
[09:14] <mapps> :D
[09:15] <mapps> when i have my heart attack they'll be saving me
[09:15] <mapps> theyre worth 1000000000x what we could pay
[09:16] <mapps> i just thougt id have liked to have paid for their xmas party
[09:16] <mapps> rather than another charity dination
[11:14] <MooDoo> everyone having fun today?
[11:15] <brobostigon> paperwork, so not really.
[11:15] <MooDoo> yay
[11:15] <awilkins> Monotonous fixing of defects introduced because I didn't have the time /inclination to insist on a proper validation check
[11:16] <awilkins> Mostly the time
[11:16] <Myrtti> my Beddit says I've slept poorly and by Gods I feel like it
[11:17] <awilkins> Is that the thing where you tuck your smartphone into a pillowcase and let the accelerometer spy onyou?
[11:18] <Myrtti> no, it's a tiny strip I put under the mattress, plug it in the wall and the phone connects to it over bluetooth
[11:18] <popey> I had an early night last night, reading comics in bed.
[11:18] <popey> had loads of odd dreams
[11:18] <Myrtti> no overheating phone underneath the pillow anymore for me, thanks
[11:23] <MooDoo> I sleft for 14 hours Sunday night, so I'm ok for the moment.
[11:23] <MooDoo> slept even
[11:25] <brobostigon> you can get similer apps for pebble, thats if you wear a watch in bed.
[11:28] <davmor2> I very rarely remember any dreams
[11:35] <popey> same here davmor2
[11:35] <popey> but a good early night fixed that, had 3 very odd ones
[11:35] <foobarry> the key is to remember them as soon as you wake
[11:36] <foobarry> *recall them
[11:41] <jussi> problem with beddit for me is I never know which position on the bed Im going to sleep - my daughter and my wife usually get there first, and I end up with whatevers left
[11:41] <popey> how old is your daughter now?
[11:47] <diplo> I can't say I've remembered a dream in years, and haven't slept properly in 2 years
[11:47] <diplo> Sucks!
[11:48] <jussi> popey: 2 years 4 months
[11:48] <popey> awww
[11:49] <popey> I sometimes let Sophie (10) sleep in my bed if she's upset or unwell, but that's rare.
[11:49] <jussi> just trying to get her into her own bed now as the next one will be here soon...
[11:49] <popey> Ooh!
[11:49] <popey> Congrats!
[11:49] <jussi> popey: you didnt know?
[11:49] <popey> She should already be in her own bed, surely?
[11:49] <popey> no, sorry, didn't
[11:49] <jussi> hehe, no problems
[11:49] <popey> when's it due?
[11:50] <jussi> 23 September
[11:50] <jussi> Elodi sometimes is in own bed, but not yet full time
[11:50] <foobarry> you sleep with your 2yr old in your bed?
[11:50] <diplo> My kids were in their own rooms after 8weeks~
[11:50] <diplo> Was great!
[11:51] <diplo> Get the occasional sick or early wake up call but most of the time they stay in their rooms
[11:52] <popey> need to be careful, the combination of elodi getting kicked out of your bed to hers, and a new baby on the way is a recipe for jealous offspring ☻
[11:52] <jussi> yeah, might be a hippy type thing... but there are some benefits for co-sleeping longer.
[11:53] <jussi> popey: she is making the move herself thankfully, although she still gets joy out of stealing "my" spot.... (the place where my pillow is)
[11:53] <popey> heh
[11:53] <jussi> http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/tami_breazeale.html
[11:54] <popey> bet you wont do it with #2 ☻
[11:54] <diplo> +1 popey - my youngest missed out on a lot :)
[11:54] <popey> parents are generally waaaay more relaxed with #2, #3 etc than #1
[11:55] <popey> even so far as washing baby bottles and stuff
[11:55] <popey> "pfft, that's clean enough"
[11:55] <diplo> The reason I moved the kids out is my ex used to wake up to every single movement and basically wasn't sleeping even though the kids were
[11:55] <popey> "meh, he can stay up later, he'll live"
[11:55] <jussi> hehe
[11:55] <diplo> So true
[11:55] <popey> yeah, it doesn't lend well to a well rested parent
[11:55] <Myrtti> I still slept with my parents when I was in school - keeping in mind I started school at seven like kids do in Finland
[11:56] <Myrtti> I was about 9 when I finally got the boot
[11:56] <diplo> Blimey!
[11:56] <popey> crikey
[11:56] <jussi> although now that Sari has done Doula training, certain things are much stronger than with elodi
[11:56] <diplo> I'd have gone insane :D
[11:56] <Myrtti> mind you, I sleep like a rock
[11:56] <diplo> Doula? Potty ?
[11:56] <Myrtti> I wake up in the exact same position I fell asleep in
[11:56] <diplo> I wake at any movement in the house
[11:56] <diplo> Myrtti, may I say I dislike you :(
[11:56] <popey> haha
[11:57] <Myrtti> diplo: I wake up to light
[11:57] <jussi> diplo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doula
[11:57] <diplo> My ex used to put her head on the pillow and 2 mins later would be snoring away, I'd still be awake an hour later
[11:57] <popey> i nudged wifey the other night because she was snoring in my ear. I said "hey, turn over babes".. she was asleep and said "I can't turn over, you're watching youtube on the chromecast"
[11:57] <popey> she thought I meant "turn the telly over"
[11:57] <popey> so now I have to say "roll over"
[11:57] <jussi> ha!
[11:57] <diplo> Same here, its why I have black out blinds and curtains in all the rooms, can't sleep during the day for the same reason
[11:58] <popey> we have full blown arguments while she's asleep
[11:58] <popey> its quite fun
[11:58] <nigelb> oh man
[11:58] <diplo> ah I've heard of those now jussi
[11:58] <nigelb> I have this too
[11:58] <jussi> I find it can help productivity to take a 15 min nap at about 1. eliminates the after lunch hangover
[11:58] <jussi> diplo: :)
[11:58] <nigelb> and she doesn't remember any of it in the morning :)
[11:58] <diplo> I'd love to be able to do that jussi
[11:59] <diplo> I used to work out and about, and one of the guys I worked with would eat his sandwiches in the van and then put his head to one side and sleep soundly until 45 mins later
[11:59] <diplo> Fully asleep
[11:59] <jussi> diplo: Im surprised that businesses dont allow employees to do it, there are strong scientific studies about it
[12:00] <shauno> I can do that at work, but not at home.  no way I can sleep that easily at home
[12:00] <nigelb> I can't wake up easily.
[12:00] <jussi> The National Institute of Mental Health funded a team of doctors, led by Alan Hobson, MD, Robert Stickgold, PhD, and colleagues at Harvard University for a study which showed that a midday snooze reverses information overload.
[12:00] <nigelb> It's either 3 hours or None.
[12:19] <diddledan_> nigelb, I'm the same - I can't do "fourty winks"
[12:20] <diddledan_> I either don't get any sleep or sleep for several hours
[12:22] <nigelb> diddledan_: ^5
[12:29] <diddledan_> I'm a hungarian. I think it must be luncheon time
[13:03] <foobarry> how many pringles = 1 packet of crisps?
[13:03] <diddledan_> 25
[13:03] <diddledan_> maybe that's too many, thinking about it
[13:03] <diddledan_> a packet doesn't usually contain very many
[13:04] <foobarry> how many in a can?
[13:04] <foobarry> 95
[13:04] <foobarry> 6 portions
[13:04] <foobarry> 15 pringles
[13:04] <diddledan_> don't be silly. 1portion == 1can
[13:05] <diddledan_> or vicky verky
[13:09] <foobarry> i've run out of chocolate and jelly sweets
[13:33] <BananaMan> heya ;)
[13:37] <popey> hello
[13:37] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: NullSweetieException
[13:38]  * diddledan_ refrains from calling someone "sweetie"
[13:43] <diddledan_> although, I think I need to recompile to fix that nullsweetieexception too
[13:43] <diddledan_> I need a sweetieInjection
[13:48] <MooDoo> ooooooo http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/05/the-orange-box-cloud-for-free-man.html
[13:49] <Myrtti> ih ♥ Chromecast
[13:49] <Myrtti> Chromecast + iihf2014video.com + 19.90€ = Miia watches ice hockey
[14:13] <Seeker`> diddledan_: don't be silly. 1 portion is far greater than 1 can
[14:13] <Seeker`> diddledan_: 10 maybe
[14:13] <diddledan_> the just-over-a-foot-long cans?
[14:24] <Seeker`> diddledan_: yeah :P
[15:32] <popey> Just installed Lubuntu for the first time - in a VM - it's rather nippy
[15:34] <awilkins> I was pleasantly surprised by the pace of standard Trusty on an SSD from a fresh install
[15:34] <awilkins> Considering whether to reinstall my upgrades to see if they get a boost
[16:15] <diddledan_> my trusty vm on here (MacBook Pro Retina + SSD) is lightning quick
[16:17] <popey> I need to move my VMs from encrypted home to unencrypted /
[16:17] <popey> to speedy them up a bit
[16:19] <awilkins> We have encrypted root w. Windows
[16:19] <awilkins> Our org is paranoid about data security because of all the lost government laptops
[16:26] <diddledan_> my org is tasked with maintaining a governmentish site via some poorly encrypted windows laptops+vpn
[16:39] <daftykins> xbox one dropped to £316 delivered 0o
[16:43] <diddledan_> daftykins, I read a thingy that explained about the light-bar on the ps4 controller as being for VR purposes
[16:44] <diddledan_> i.e. when you've got your head shoved up into a helmet
[16:52] <daftykins> i don't really see the connection?
[16:53] <diddledan_> something about wanting to know where a user's hands are
[16:53] <Laney> happy 1400000000
[16:54] <daftykins> huh?
[16:54] <popey> \o/
[16:54] <diddledan_> 1.4billion?
[16:54] <daftykins> Laney you so crazy
[16:54] <popey> dammit, missed it
[16:54] <Laney> i don't make the rules
[16:54] <diddledan_> o_O
[16:56] <Laney> it's alright, there's only a little bit over three years until the next one
[16:56] <daftykins> the next what?
[16:56] <Laney> the next 00000000
[16:56] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[16:57] <daftykins> worst. explanation. ever.
[16:58] <Laney> hahaha sorry it was fun to be a wind up
[16:58] <Laney> date +%s
[16:59] <daftykins> i was sort of thinking epoch related
[17:07] <diddledan_> \o/ for 1.4 billion seconds since an arbitrary point. the problem I have however, is that while it's 1.4billion from that point; from a different point it's 1.3658736458
[17:08] <diddledan_> (nobody go counting the number of significant figures! I might have a partial second in there for good measure)
[17:10] <diddledan_> winston churchill was a pretty significant figure, however
[17:10] <diddledan_> you can count him
[17:16] <shauno> wot
[17:18] <diddledan_> shauno, not you
[17:18] <diddledan_> this looks interesting: http://jarednova.github.io/timber/
[17:19] <diddledan_> oop for wordpress theming
[17:19] <shauno> I dunno.  sometimes I feel obligated to remind you that you don't actually make any sense
[17:19] <diddledan_> sure I do. it's called non-sense
[17:21] <diddledan_> why doesn't chrome on windows do the fancy font-smoothing thing?
[17:25] <daftykins> diddledan_: can you do a screenie comparison 0o
[17:25] <diddledan_> daftykins, once I can find the wretched print-screen key
[17:25] <daftykins> ;D
[17:25] <daftykins> that armageddon chap is trying my patience
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[17:26] <daftykins> =|
[17:27] <popey> ah those crazy danes https://news.vice.com/article/denmark-just-pulled-the-most-disturbing-election-ad-youll-ever-see
[17:37] <DJones> Heh, Russia set to reject a USA request to keep keep the ISS in use for an extra 4 years......Erm....The only way the Americans can get up there anyway is using Russian rockets, so there's no problem
[17:42] <diddledan_> DJones, well there's a problem if they stop sending the rockets while there's still people up there
[17:43] <DJones> diddledan_: That be a good test of a halo jump
[17:43] <DJones> Oh and new trousers
[17:43] <diddledan_> vhalo
[17:43] <popey> not really, they can get down
[17:43] <ali1234> http://www.space.com/25849-spacex-lawsuit-ula-rocket-engines.html
[17:43] <diddledan_> they can?
[17:43] <popey> there's always an escape pod
[17:44] <popey> you not watched Gravity ? ☻
[17:44] <diddledan_> no
[17:44] <daftykins> such a bad film
[17:44] <popey> meh, I liked it
[17:44] <popey> yeah, that spacex thing is interesting, watched the senate hearing on it
[17:44] <daftykins> Sandra Bullock breaks everything (TM)
[17:44] <diddledan_> lol
[17:45] <diddledan_> to be fair to sandra, they shouldn't have sent her up there in the first place
[17:45] <diddledan_> (caveat: sandra is one of my crushes)
[17:47] <daftykins> i've got a new CD that won't rip =|
[17:48]  * diddledan_ gets the scissors
[17:48] <diddledan_> cutting is so much cleaner than ripping
[17:48] <daftykins> not helping sir
[17:48] <diddledan_> :-p
[17:48] <diddledan_> since when have I _ever_ helped _anyone_?!
[17:49] <daftykins> i saw you! once!
[17:49] <diddledan_> really?
[17:49] <diddledan_> hmm
[17:49] <diddledan_> momentary lapse in judgement methinks
[17:50] <daftykins> :)
[17:50] <daftykins> diddledan_: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital-WD40EZRX-Internal-SATA-Caviar-Green-4TB-Hard-Drive-Brand-New/331202354966
[17:50] <daftykins> seems legit
[17:51] <diddledan_> china
[17:52] <diddledan_> I don't trust anything from china
[17:52] <diddledan_> at least anything on ebay from china
[17:53] <daftykins> :>
[17:53] <daftykins> yeah
[18:03] <daftykins> oh wow, i didn't even look at the surface before popping it in given it's brand new
[18:03] <daftykins> it's knackered, getting an amazon replacement \o/
[18:04] <shauno> heh, you're missing out.  china is great fun on ebay
[18:05] <diddledan_> daftykins?
[18:05] <diddledan_> the surface?
[18:06] <daftykins> music CD i was ripping
[18:06] <diddledan_> aah
[18:10] <shauno> heh, I assumed he meant a hdd too
[18:10] <daftykins> 8)
[18:44] <diddledan_> shauno, non mac - how do I get windows to respect a mac keyboard layout?
[18:44] <diddledan_> maybe that should be in a different channel
[18:45] <diddledan_> I managed with two operating system references to completely miss the one this channel is purportedly about
[18:45] <daftykins> i think my friend used to run some kind of program to remap
[18:45] <diddledan_> that's impressifail
[18:45] <diddledan_> I'm using a mac keyboard at least
[18:45] <daftykins> although that was XP era
[18:45] <daftykins> ;D
[18:45] <diddledan_> just plugged into a windows pc
[18:46] <shauno> I'm using a combination of my own keymap file & autohotkey.  it ... mostly works
[18:46] <shauno> although win7 really doesn't want to let me remap cmd+L, which worked fine in xp
[18:47] <diddledan_> windows 8/8.1 probably wouldn't like that either
[18:47] <shauno> it worked in xp, where cmd+l does the same thing as it does in later versions
[18:48] <shauno> but now if I try to make it act as ctrl+L, it executes one behaviour, and then the other
[18:48] <daftykins> heh
[18:50] <shauno> I have all my deadkeys working though!  which I still haven't managed in ubuntu (xkbd is .. not fit for human consumption)
[18:53] <diddledan_> why has nobody written a piece of software that, like synergy+ shares a single keyboard and mnouse between multiple systems but also, and here's the bit that nobody has done, allows windows to be drawn on any display from any of the connected systems - e.g. drag safari from my mac desktop to my windows desktop without caring that they're different systems
[18:55] <daftykins> maybe it'd just look like a mess of sketchy redrawing?
[18:58] <shauno> that'd be horrible :)
[19:00] <shauno> you can sort of make windows-windows appear on mac-desktop with rdp, but I'm not sure how you could move it from one to the other without the windows desktop already sharing the windows with itself over rdp
[19:01] <shauno> and that's the shallow end of the insanity required
[19:01] <daftykins> doesn't vmware fusion on a mac allow Windows to almost look like it's operating natively?
[19:01] <shauno> yeah, I believe it piggy-backs rdp for that too
[19:01] <daftykins> eww
[19:01] <daftykins> anywho heading out, bbl o/
[19:02] <shauno> but you can't have half & half for that.  you can't have a windows desktop in vmware and a window running lose - it's one or the other
[19:07] <diddledan_> in that case then I want to be able to run gfx-accelerated games on a networked display
[19:07] <diddledan_> see, I use my mac for everything except games, but I want the mac to have all the screens
[19:15] <ali1234> diddledan_: it's called X windows...
[19:16] <diddledan_> ali1234: obsolete
[19:16] <ali1234> yeah, obsoleted by a thing that isn't technically capable of replacing it
[19:16] <diddledan_> I don't agree with it's obsolescence, but it's still obsolete
[19:17] <ali1234> you should take up this oversight with the Wayland developers - and also the Mir developers since it doesn't support this either
[19:17] <Monotoko> I've been working on something like this actually
[19:19] <diddledan_> ali1234, the problem with doing that is I get the impression that they'll just dismiss it and me with something similar to "we've discussed this, read the archives"
[19:19] <diddledan_> which isn't an answer at all
[19:20] <ali1234> right
[19:20] <ali1234> that's no reason to just give up though
[19:20] <Monotoko> speaking of bad decisions, is Ubuntu heading for systemd?
[19:20] <ali1234> it's a contest of wills
[19:21] <ali1234> who will give up first?
[19:21] <diddledan_> Monotoko yes
[19:21] <ali1234> just look at the youtube/g+ thing
[19:21] <Monotoko> diddledan_ damn
[19:22] <ali1234> it only took 6 months of people spamming bob and his army for google to reverse their terrible design decision
[19:23] <MartijnVdS> ?
[19:23] <ali1234> http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/642/486/64d.jpg
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> oh that
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> they reversed it?
[19:24] <ali1234> yeah
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> (they didn't, as far as I can see)
[19:24] <diddledan_> afaik youtube comments are still tied into g+
[19:24] <ali1234> and vic quit
[19:25] <ali1234> diddledan_: some channels have the old comments back already
[19:25] <ali1234> like most things youtube, it doesn't update for everyone at once
[19:25] <diddledan_> oh
[19:26] <shauno> wait, the bob spam worked?
[19:26] <diddledan_> google doesn't know about it
[19:26] <diddledan_> woah, that's so meta
[19:27] <ali1234> shauno: apparently
[19:28] <diddledan_> source?
[19:28] <diddledan_> reference?
[19:28] <diddledan_> as I say, google knows nothing about it
[19:31] <shauno> http://knowyourmeme.com/videos/77340-this-is-bob  is the very first result for "bob's army"
[19:32] <shauno> seems like a througholy academic source :)
[19:32] <diddledan_> all I see is a video
[19:33] <shauno> the battleground is youtube .. what do you expect :D
[19:38] <mapps> evening
[19:38] <mapps> question
[19:38] <mapps> my iphone 5s fully charged goes to 80% in like an hour
[19:38] <mapps> that cant be right
[19:39] <diddledan_> have you let it discharge all the way recently?
[19:39] <diddledan_> if not then that's a plan
[19:41] <mapps> it dies loads so i guess
[19:41] <mapps> but i can try again
[19:42] <Monotoko> mapps, sounds like an app is draining the battery
[19:42] <Monotoko> it's usually facebook or skype
[19:42] <mapps> well
[19:42] <mapps> there's a rarety
[19:42] <shauno> nah, that's normal for lipo.  it'll take the same amount of time to charge 0-80% as it takes for 80-100%
[19:42] <mapps> got so drunk i passed out
[19:42] <mapps> but
[19:42] <BananaManLinux1> hi ukers :p
[19:42] <mapps> i placed a bet o some tennis..cant even remember
[19:42] <mapps> wokeup +550:)
[19:43] <Monotoko> I woke up -800 the other day
[19:43] <mapps> :(
[19:43] <Monotoko> turns out I booked a flight
[19:43] <mapps> to where
[19:43] <Monotoko> Shanghai
[19:43] <mapps> nice
[19:43] <Monotoko> still not sure why I did it
[19:43] <mapps> id had an awful day ...lost ~600 on soccer
[19:43] <mapps> so waking up to +550
[19:43] <Monotoko> I don't speak a word of mandarin :(
[19:43] <mapps> was nice
[19:44] <mapps> gonna close my ac soon
[19:45] <diddledan_> sleep buying a long-haul flight is impressive
[19:45] <diddledan_> even shauno hasn't gone that far AFAIK
[19:45] <Monotoko> drunk-buying... I thought I'd lost it at the casino to begin with
[19:45] <ali1234> i can't find any reliable sources on this
[19:45] <Monotoko> turns out I won £50 at the casino
[19:46] <diddledan_> Monotoko, win 50, sink 500 into flight
[19:46] <diddledan_> Monotoko, that's logical, right?
[19:46] <mapps> nice
[19:46] <Monotoko> diddledan_, I think I really wanted to go on holiday :(
[19:46] <mapps> casino is mug
[19:46]  * mapps goes to both casinos a lot
[19:46] <Monotoko> although why I didn't just go to spain like a normal person
[19:46] <Monotoko> god knows
[19:46] <mapps> and its full of mugs
[19:47] <mapps> because its rubbish
[19:47] <mapps> and chav
[19:47] <mapps> sit around in the sun drinkng and smoking
[19:47] <mapps> no ta
[19:47] <Monotoko> mapps, I usually stick to poker rooms
[19:47] <mapps> ah ok
[19:47] <mapps> i stick to the bar :P
[19:47] <mapps> never really gamble there
[19:47] <Monotoko> bah, casino bars are expensive
[19:47] <mapps> bar or smoking area
[19:47] <mapps> paid 10 quid for some fags last night
[19:47] <mapps> lol
[19:48] <Monotoko> my guess is you're from the north?
[19:48] <mapps> nie
[19:48] <mapps> and then they wanted 50p extra for a lighter
[19:48] <mapps> haha
[19:48] <mapps> not at all..im from the south, why the north?
[19:49] <shauno> lol, he's nothing to do with us
[19:49] <Monotoko> just thought I recognised the lingo
[19:49] <mapps> shauno me?
[19:49] <mapps> ;[
[19:49] <diddledan_> if not you, mapps , then me - he's always trying to disown me
[19:49] <mapps> from SW11 ..moved to GU24 ....
[19:50] <mapps> now live in ST1;P
[19:50] <mapps> so i am north ish now Monotoko :)
[19:50] <mapps> midlands really
[19:50] <diddledan_> shauno, remember, a tramp is for life not just for doorstops
[19:51] <Monotoko> I've lived in DN, EX, SW and now in LE
[19:51] <Monotoko> over the past year :(
[19:51] <diddledan_> o_O
[19:51] <diddledan_> are we supposed to know postal code-to-locations these days?
[19:52] <Monotoko> Doncaster, Exeter, London, Leeds
[19:52] <diddledan_> SW I know is london
[19:52] <diddledan_> the others all bets are off
[19:57] <mapps> gu = guildford
[19:57] <mapps> st- stoke
 I've lived in DN, EX, SW and now in LE
 over the past year :(
[19:57] <mapps> in a year?
[20:02] <Monotoko> Yeah, I've had a few jobs, packed 'em all in because I wanted to be somewhere else
[20:02] <Monotoko> now I've been suspended for some silly mistakes as a sysadmin which shouldn't have even been an issue, so I'm stuck in Leeds for now
[20:03] <diddledan_> :-(
[20:03] <diddledan_> that sucks
[20:03] <diddledan_> the suspension I mean
[20:05] <Monotoko> Aye, they wanted rid of me... I've put up a fight
[20:06] <Monotoko> so I've been suspended for a month now
[20:06] <Monotoko> on full pay mind you
[20:08] <Monotoko> it gets boring after a few weeks
[20:21] <mapps> dont complain dont explain
[20:21] <mapps> best way to be
[20:21] <mapps> :D
[20:21] <mapps> and also..dont ever accept blame for anything in the workplace
[20:21] <mapps> deny deny deny
[20:21] <mapps> because there's always someone above you earning a fortune for doing nothing
[20:22]  * mapps never admits to anything
[23:08] <ali1234> what is the best joypad for gaming on linux?
[23:08] <ali1234> the xbox 360 controller seems like the defacto standard now
[23:09] <ali1234> should i get the official one, or a clone? or something entirely different?
[23:13] <popey> ali1234: i went for a genuine usb xbox360 one
[23:13] <popey> works a treat
[23:13] <ali1234> that's probably what i'll get
[23:13] <ali1234> the classic xbox controller served me well, but the slight differences (like no shoulder triggers) are becoming a problem
[23:14] <ali1234> all games love those shoulder triggers for some reason
[23:14] <ali1234> not having them is often a game breaker
[23:14] <popey> my kids keep stealing my xbox360 controller
[23:14] <ali1234> also the weird way the driver sets up the controls means that many games think you are constantly pressing L/R
[23:15] <ali1234> which can also be a game breaker
[23:15] <ali1234> i've got a game that uses that to cycle menus, so when i go into the menu it just whizzes through each page forever