[12:28] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:40] <mrgoodcat> it is a morning at any rate
[12:50] <rick_h_> yea, morning
[13:25] <cmaloney> Heh
[13:25] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Hope the demo goes well
[13:25] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, we didn't make it
[13:25] <rick_h_> long story, but shut it down at 9pm last night and we got bumped
[13:25] <rick_h_> so will be bittersweet demo in an hour
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> D:
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> just had to set up rvm on a digitalocean box... self.kill()
[13:38] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Ugh
[13:38] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Welcome to my world. :)
[13:38] <mrgoodcat> had to rspec for every ruby since 1.8
[13:39] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Sadly that's the best use-case for RVM that I can see
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> rvm 1.8.7,1.9.3,2.0.2 do bundle exec rake spec
[13:39] <cmaloney> And it's not particularly great at it.
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> i haven't had any problems
[13:40] <mrgoodcat> and actually aside from the massive amount of time it took, the install was painless
[13:40] <cmaloney> I haven't figured out how to reliably use gemsets yet.
[13:40] <mrgoodcat> i just use bundler anyways
[13:40] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Let me rephrase:
[13:40] <mrgoodcat> gemsets are inferior to bundler
[13:40] <cmaloney> I haven't figured out the convoluted Ruby install processes yet.
[13:41] <mrgoodcat> do you use bash or zsh?
[13:42] <cmaloney> bash
[13:42] <rick_h_> zsh
[13:42] <rick_h_> ftw
[13:47] <jrwren> you can take my bash from my cold dead hands :p
[13:47] <mrgoodcat> zsh is where it's at
[13:48] <mrgoodcat> is google down?
[13:48] <mrgoodcat> .isup google.com
[13:48] <bookiebot> http://google.com returned a response code of 200 in 0.185409 seconds
[13:48] <mrgoodcat> wtf
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> can anybody else see google? we can't access it at work right now
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> its back up
[13:50] <mrgoodcat> nvm
[13:50] <jrwren> google doesn't go down :p
[13:50] <rick_h_> lol
[13:51] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I think it's a PEBKAC error.
[13:51] <mrgoodcat> the whole building lost google for ~60 seconds
[13:51] <jrwren> problem exists between keyboard and CLEC?
[13:52] <cmaloney> jrwren: or chair. :)
[13:52] <jrwren> sounds like your ISP is playing tricks on  you.
[13:52] <mrgoodcat> lol
[13:53] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: http://hastebin.com/epasuriduc
[13:53] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/UwiqQ2 - hastebin
[13:53] <mrgoodcat> then use ruby-install and you're done :)
[13:55] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: What does this do?
[13:56] <cmaloney> Looks like a Makefile to install stuff from the interwebs
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> installs chruby and ruby-install on a machine
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> all you need is git
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> although yes don't do it without reading it first yada yada
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> it was more to show you how easy it is
[13:57] <cmaloney> echo "source /usr/local/share/chruby/chruby.sh" >> $(HOME)/.bashrc
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> i don't automate installs from the internet
[13:57] <cmaloney> echo "source /usr/local/share/chruby/auto.sh" >> $(HOME)/.bashrc
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> that's how chruby works. it needs to be loaded by your shell
[13:57] <cmaloney> I would love to know what school of development Ruby folks are from
[13:58] <cmaloney> (And yes, I understand that virtualenv does a similar thing)
[13:58] <mrgoodcat> chruby only affects your PATH. it doesn't overload cd or anything stupid like rvm does
[13:58] <mrgoodcat> or ls or whatever it does
[14:00] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: chruby is currently the accepted way to install ruby. chruby is installed to system but all rubies and gems are installed to homedir
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> NO WAY
[14:02] <rick_h_> cmaloney: heh, better make sure jsivak sees http://r.bmark.us/u/596ba471b42254
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> THEY FIXED THE KERNEL FOR CHROMEBOOKS :D
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> done with caps now
[14:02] <mrgoodcat> super happy though
[14:02] <rick_h_> cmaloney: not quite super sized scale, but talk about looking at the long tail side of things
[14:31] <jrwren> TIL: python2 has backticks for eval
[14:34] <mrgoodcat> hrm cool
[14:34] <mrgoodcat> almost never find myself wanting to eval though
[14:35] <jrwren> same.
[14:35] <jrwren> IMO it is a huge smell.
[14:35] <jrwren> if you need to eval, you are doing it wrong.
[14:37] <mrgoodcat> pmuch how i feel
[14:37] <mrgoodcat> i used eval for the early version of my plugin system
[14:37] <mrgoodcat> but i've since switched to the imp module
[14:53] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Interesting.
[14:53] <cmaloney> Probably just what most sellers need, frankly.
[14:54] <cmaloney> I'm pretty sure the number of folks who make purchasing decisions based on the bathroom of a store are quite low.
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> bathroom is one of the best places to figure out how clean the kitchen is kept
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> you can usually assume they have similar cleaning habits
[14:56] <rick_h_> cmaloney: it's interesting
[15:00] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Yeah, that's true for restaurants.
[15:01] <cmaloney> Not so much for retail
[15:02] <cmaloney> rick_h_: I'd bet you could do more with a simple "I'm happy" / "I'm unhappy".
[15:02] <cmaloney> http://hexweb.bandcamp.com/album/hex
[15:02] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/RdA7Gx - HEX | HEX
[15:02] <cmaloney> Wish this were CC licensed, but still pretty cool
[15:04] <cmaloney> Reminds me a bit of White Zombie / Rob Zombie
[15:06] <mrgoodcat> no but i've seen square in restaurants too
[15:09] <Havenstance> good morning
[15:12] <cmaloney> Morning
[15:12] <cmaloney> btw: http://mug.org is tonight
[15:12] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/4LKP5D - Michigan!/usr/group | mug.org – A Michigan-based Linux and UNIX Free and Open Source Community
[15:12] <brousch> cmaloney: I will not be attending
[15:12] <cmaloney> brousch: You forgot to say "sorry"
[15:13] <brousch> Sorry I forgot to say sorry
[15:13] <cmaloney> heh
[15:13] <brousch> :P
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> keep forgetting they're indian
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> "certain values of" I think of as a pretty common thing to say
[15:58] <Havenstance> well i have finally gotten my desk cleaned off of the backlogged projects.
[15:58] <mrgoodcat> good for you
[15:58] <Havenstance> now its time to start on repairs...
[15:58] <mrgoodcat> don't think i'll ever be able to do that
[15:59] <Havenstance> Yeah, I love being the everything guy somedays. especially when now on top of my list is putting a 40 foot aluminum later up the side of a power pole to remove a camera from the pole for service....
[16:00] <brousch> Havenstance: Don't forget your kite and key on a string
[16:00] <Havenstance> brousch, pretty much the general idea today. its windy up here too
[16:00] <Havenstance> windy hot and humid
[16:00] <Havenstance> but a nice change from the 40 below a month or so ago
[16:04] <jrwren> you should really use a fiberglass ladder for that, because, you never know!
[16:06] <mrgoodcat> Havenstance: just knock the camera down with a rock
[16:06] <mrgoodcat> get a new one
[16:06] <mrgoodcat> 4k
[16:07] <Havenstance> jrwren, we don't have a fiberglass ladder, Instead a rickety old aluminum ladder is what we got. its a great deal... I'm thinking I can get to it from the roof of the building though so that's probably the way I'll go
[16:07] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, I'm taking it down to go downtown and get a new one anyway this one has bad connections and I'm not going to keep messing around with it going out every other week I'm just gonna replace it. Boss only pays like 100 a piece for the cameras anyway
[16:17] <mrgoodcat> spend 10k$
[16:17] <mrgoodcat> is good for you
[16:22] <Havenstance> this is true, I'd personally like to hire out the setting up and maintenance of those cameras. I'm about tired of dealing with it. Anyway gotta go check on the employee I have doing training. Then better get up there and pull that its not going to take its self down lol
[17:19] <brousch> cmaloney: PyOhio is looking for "diverse" talk reviewers. You should get your wife to do it
[17:19] <cmaloney> I signed myself up for it.
[17:20] <brousch> But you are not a sciency female who knows little Python
[17:20] <cmaloney> Just so I could vote against any kivy talk.
[17:20] <cmaloney> Is that on her business cards? I haven't seen that. ;)
[18:17] <greg-g> https://twitter.com/mhoye/status/466277261407027201
[18:17] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/gip4NP - Twitter / mhoye: Just saw a colleague unbox ...
[18:18] <rick_h_> pretty much
[18:19] <rick_h_> though I have to say, if you pull the trigger on a new laptop you probably should have looked at the keyboard pics online
[18:28] <cmaloney> Yeah, Lenovo has really screwed the pooch on that keyboard.
[18:29] <greg-g> https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/466168309441122304  aka download now while you still can
[18:29] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/9XAje3 - Twitter / Cmdr_Hadfield: Bowie's last day - we had ...
[18:30] <cmaloney> I cannot cofirm or deny if I'm using youtube-dl right now. :)
[19:02] <mrgoodcat> chris hadfield is a better singer than i'd have guessed
[19:03] <rick_h_> jcastro: MUG?
[19:03] <mrgoodcat> when is mug?
[19:03] <jcastro> I can't today
[19:03] <rick_h_> tonight 6:30
[19:03] <mrgoodcat> :/
[19:03] <mrgoodcat> yea i can never go
[19:03] <rick_h_> jcastro: booo ok
[19:04] <cmaloney> jcastro: I have a slide specifically telling folks to talk to you. :)
[19:04] <cmaloney> How will it be nearly as effective if you are not present?
[19:04] <jcastro> excellent!
[19:05] <mrgoodcat> talks on g+?
[19:05] <cmaloney> Nope. I'm forbidding anyone recording my talk
[19:06] <cmaloney> FORBIDDING, BY MY BIDDING
[19:06] <cmaloney> Actually I don't care one way or the other.
[19:07]  * mrgoodcat wants to smoke weed with chris hadfield in space
[19:07] <cmaloney> my talk will be me killing time
[19:07] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, sounds like a good time
[19:07] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: orly?
[19:07] <brousch> cmaloney: Add his phone number to the slide
[19:07] <mrgoodcat> http://i.imgur.com/ZAZrLW9.jpg
[19:07] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/uc5anC - image/jpeg
[19:07] <cmaloney> Well, he is canadian.
[19:08] <mrgoodcat> :D
[19:08] <mrgoodcat> i'm colorado...ian?... in spirit
[19:08] <cmaloney> he only had to hide it when they were over the UNited States.
[19:08] <greg-g> what the
[19:08] <greg-g> that can't be real
[19:08] <mrgoodcat> wonder what the laws are regarding space... is that like being in international water?
[19:09] <mrgoodcat> or if you're over a country are you covered by their laws?
[19:09] <greg-g> not the later, definitely
[19:09] <cmaloney> http://digital.negative-existence.com/album/sanctus-daemoneon-the-unavoidable
[19:09] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/3VbOq6 - SANCTUS DAEMONEON - The unaVOIDable | Negative Existence
[19:09] <mrgoodcat> what if SpaceX's biggest clients become the mafia
[19:09] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, i'd live in colorado if I could afford it myself :)
[19:09] <mrgoodcat> sending people up to get killed outside of jurisdiction
[19:11] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: If you can sharp-shoot someone while in a near-earth orbit you're a better person than I.
[19:11] <mrgoodcat> hahaha
[21:08] <jrwren> right by where greg-g once lived. https://twitter.com/amywrites_/status/466294945297346560
[21:08] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/dVeyeN - Twitter / amywrites_: RT @MEIDispatch #WashtenawCounty ...
[21:17] <greg-g> eek, I was 1815 Dexter
[21:51] <mrgoodcat> wow
[21:51] <mrgoodcat> wb
[21:52] <cmaloney> Ugh
[21:55] <mrgoodcat> aww yea
[21:55] <mrgoodcat> for anyone that browses github a lot https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/octotree/bkhaagjahfmjljalopjnoealnfndnagc
[21:55] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/3zT6BZ - Chrome Web Store - Octotree
[23:09] <tony-smlr> MUG (Michigan Users Group) May meeting video is live!  http://youtu.be/nx_WEnu1jKY
[23:09] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/pYhdjy - MUG - 2014-05-13 Running an Open Source Project / State of Linux Gaming -2 - YouTube
[23:34] <brousch> I am so tempted to make a U-M color scheme for the pyohio page and PR it
[23:40] <mrgoodcat> doit