[00:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [00:00] :) [00:00] distro-info -c --supported --days=eol is easier. :P [00:01] neat [00:01] didn't know that command [00:01] you should file a bug report [00:01] ;) [00:02] Mhmm, I'll get right on that. [00:03] 12.10,Quantal Quetzal,quantal,2012-04-26,2012-10-18,2014-04-18 well that's weird. [00:15] wowz [00:15] a [00:15] unity runs okay in virtualbox [00:15] when it switches to unity-locker [00:16] then it comes to a horrible crawl [00:16] I thought my vm was dead [00:18] bluesabre: How is it atop mir? [00:18] haven't tried it with mir yet [00:19] probably not good, since I don't think vbox gfx drivers support mir yet [00:19] I'd try it, tried wayland, but no intention to try unity. :P [00:19] Right, they don't. [00:20] personally I think mir might end up being a better solution [00:21] primarily because wayland is being developed alongside gnome [00:21] but, nobody can really say at this point [01:44] my favorite commit this month. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/menulibre/master/revision/207 [06:12] bluesabre: that works! [06:12] hey elfy [06:12] hi ochosi [06:12] have time for a quick test? [06:12] lid-close bug [06:13] not atm - sorry - too early lol [06:14] hehe, ok [06:14] laptop's in little one's room - she's not awake yet [06:15] i'm writing down the testcase now anyway [06:15] and I'm waking up still :) [06:15] me too :) [06:15] but as i gotta work the rest of the day, i wanted to get something done here too [06:15] ok cool - link it here - then as soon as I can I'll do it [06:15] yep understood [06:17] elfy: http://dpaste.com/2X51WV1/ [06:17] as i'm the only one who tested this successfully so far, i wanted to wait at least until you tested it before we post that in the bugreport [06:17] however, if it works for you, you could just copy-paste it there [06:18] yep - bookmarked [06:18] (with a nice "hello everyone, we finally have a patch" intro) [06:18] :p [06:54] hf everyone, bbl === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [12:11] bluesabre: nice to be kept in the loop over what needs testing and when [12:11] communication here is awesome [12:24] elfy: just a quick question, have you been able to test the lid-fix? [12:30] i asked a friend and it worked fine, so i at least have 3 positive test-results for it now (including the two ppl who worked on the patch) [15:02] ochosi: I've got in properly from work now - will check [15:04] elfy, do you have a few minutes to discuss MenuLibre testcase? [15:04] in a bit [15:05] I'll wait [15:05] though tbh I'm grrrrr about menulibre testing atm [15:06] there's something that IMO is wrong in that test [15:06] well - I ran through it yesterday - it all works [15:07] did you manage to be sucessfully with steps 19-20? [15:08] whatever steps 19-20 are I must have as it all worked [15:09] elfy, 19 - In Menu Editor - hover over launcher title and click and 20 - Enter new name for launcher and press enter [15:09] yep [15:09] worked [15:10] well, that's strange because I'm unable to achieve it in two distinct boxes [15:11] one with today's daily and another fully updated that been being upgraded since 12.04 [15:11] I've just done it twice here [15:12] what is the menulibre installed version you have? [15:12] 2.0.3 [15:14] elfy I have 2.0.3-1 installed === qwebirc591238 is now known as slickymasterWork [15:17] ochosi: confirm that ppa works here - also it stops it rebooting with a really dim screen. [15:17] so that's \o/ from me [15:29] ochosi: posted in bug with the details - added ppa-purge command too [15:30] sorry elfy [15:30] :) [15:30] lost connectivity (once again) [15:30] yep [15:30] can you tell me once once again what's installed version? [15:31] 2.0.3 [15:31] strange, that's mine's also [15:31] on both boxes [15:31] at least that what it reports [15:31] mine are both 2.0.3-1 [15:32] going to have to poke around to figure it out [15:32] you can do it 2 ways - hover over title, click - write - enter or click the button to the right of the title box [15:32] tried both ways, no dice [15:32] uh oh [15:32] now what's up [15:33] * elfy waits for upgrade to finish [15:34] ii menulibre 2.0.3-1 [15:34] those are also mine's [15:39] I recorded me doing it - any idea where I could post that for you to get? [15:45] nah, nevermind [15:45] I'll reinstall it [15:47] https://www.dropbox.com/s/j31ys0zrmefxu57/out.ogv [16:24] !team [16:24] bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 [16:25] assistive tech is currently part of a testcase for the settings manager for some reason - propose to remove that - question is do we need to test that anyway - we'd not be able to do anything anyway if there is a problem I guess [16:26] aye [16:26] elfy, thanks for that link, but I ended up reinstalling it and now it's working [16:26] no clue what could have been the culprit [16:27] i have no idea elfy, but i guess that if we can not do anything about something we better don't make ourselfs responsible of that [16:30] slickymasterWork: ok - cheers [16:30] anyone with access to utopic atm - alt+f2 - xfce4-term - does terminal show in the list [16:31] GridCube: that's my thinking - we can always create a test and make it optional [16:31] but I think (need to check) that ubuntu tests this stuff with autopilot [16:31] GridCube: +1 [16:32] o/ pleia2 [16:32] g'day elfy [16:33] elfy: alt+f2 and xfce4-term does show up in the list [16:33] hi pleia2 [16:35] slickymasterWork: mmm - not seeing that on this machine nor a vm [16:35] hey slickymaster :) [16:57] ochosi: got another +1 to that fix now via the bug report [19:19] ochosi: what you going to do about a meeting - we need to get one soon I guess - things like the m/l and PPA at least need to be sorted [22:31] sorry about that elfy/forestpiskie, was looking for some ad hoc testing and wanted to get a request out before I ran out the door this morning [23:03] bluesabre: can we make lightdm's dependency on the indicator libs optional? [23:04] ... I thought it was optional [23:04] since it works in not-ubuntu [23:04] you have to compile specifically with --enable-indicator-services [23:05] mmmmh, I missed some things [23:05] not lightdm, but lightdm-gtk-greeter [23:05] in ubuntu [23:05] right [23:06] the ubuntu package :) [23:06] that's how its compiled, you don't have to include indicators in your config [23:06] I know that [23:06] /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf [23:07] so, it is optional, xubuntu ships with indicators enabled [23:07] anyway, gotta run, family here [23:07] bbl [23:08] I'll rebuild the package locally then, guess no one else is bothered by the indicator libs [23:11] (if one does not use the unity indicators) [23:13] what's the problem here? [23:13] there is none [23:15] greeter depends on libido3-0.1-0 and libindicator3-7, I would like to move the to recommends [23:16] well, they have to be compiled in afaik [23:17] so we can't make them recommends... the greeter will just fail to run if they're not installed [23:17] right [23:18] can we add a runtime detection? [23:18] not easily [23:19] it's not a problem, I'm just curious