[00:00] <bluesabre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:00] <bluesabre> :)
[00:00] <Unit193> distro-info -c --supported --days=eol  is easier. :P
[00:01] <bluesabre> neat
[00:01] <bluesabre> didn't know that command
[00:01] <bluesabre> you should file a bug report
[00:01] <bluesabre> ;)
[00:02] <Unit193> Mhmm, I'll get right on that.
[00:03] <Unit193> 12.10,Quantal Quetzal,quantal,2012-04-26,2012-10-18,2014-04-18  well that's weird.
[00:15] <bluesabre> wowz
[00:15] <bluesabre> a
[00:15] <bluesabre> unity runs okay in virtualbox
[00:15] <bluesabre> when it switches to unity-locker
[00:16] <bluesabre> then it comes to a horrible crawl
[00:16] <bluesabre> I thought my vm was dead
[00:18] <Unit193> bluesabre: How is it atop mir?
[00:18] <bluesabre> haven't tried it with mir yet
[00:19] <bluesabre> probably not good, since I don't think vbox gfx drivers support mir yet
[00:19] <Unit193> I'd try it, tried wayland, but no intention to try unity. :P
[00:19] <Unit193> Right, they don't.
[00:20] <bluesabre> personally I think mir might end up being a better solution
[00:21] <bluesabre> primarily because wayland is being developed alongside gnome
[00:21] <bluesabre> but, nobody can really say at this point
[01:44] <bluesabre> my favorite commit this month. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/menulibre/master/revision/207
[06:12] <ochosi> bluesabre: that works!
[06:12] <ochosi> hey elfy 
[06:12] <elfy> hi ochosi 
[06:12] <ochosi> have time for a quick test?
[06:12] <ochosi> lid-close bug
[06:13] <elfy> not atm - sorry - too early lol
[06:14] <ochosi> hehe, ok
[06:14] <elfy> laptop's in little one's room - she's not awake yet 
[06:15] <ochosi> i'm writing down the testcase now anyway
[06:15] <elfy> and I'm waking up still :)
[06:15] <ochosi> me too :)
[06:15] <ochosi> but as i gotta work the rest of the day, i wanted to get something done here too
[06:15] <elfy> ok cool - link it here - then as soon as I can I'll do it
[06:15] <elfy> yep understood
[06:17] <ochosi> elfy: http://dpaste.com/2X51WV1/
[06:17] <ochosi> as i'm the only one who tested this successfully so far, i wanted to wait at least until you tested it before we post that in the bugreport
[06:17] <ochosi> however, if it works for you, you could just copy-paste it there
[06:18] <elfy> yep - bookmarked
[06:18] <ochosi> (with a nice "hello everyone, we finally have a patch" intro)
[06:18] <elfy> :p
[06:54] <ochosi> hf everyone, bbl
[12:11] <elfy> bluesabre: nice to be kept in the loop over what needs testing and when
[12:11] <elfy> communication here is awesome
[12:24] <ochosi> elfy: just a quick question, have you been able to test the lid-fix?
[12:30] <ochosi> i asked a friend and it worked fine, so i at least have 3 positive test-results for it now (including the two ppl who worked on the patch)
[15:02] <elfy> ochosi: I've got in properly from work now - will check
[15:04] <slickymasterWork> elfy, do you have a few minutes to discuss MenuLibre testcase?
[15:04] <elfy> in a bit
[15:05] <slickymasterWork> I'll wait
[15:05] <elfy> though tbh I'm grrrrr about menulibre testing atm
[15:06] <slickymasterWork> there's something that IMO is wrong in that test
[15:06] <elfy> well - I ran through it yesterday - it all works 
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> did you manage to be sucessfully with steps 19-20?
[15:08] <elfy> whatever steps 19-20 are I must have as it all worked
[15:09] <slickymasterWork> elfy,  19 - In Menu Editor - hover over launcher title and click and 20 - Enter new name for launcher and press enter
[15:09] <elfy> yep
[15:09] <elfy> worked 
[15:10] <slickymasterWork> well, that's strange because I'm unable to achieve it in two distinct boxes
[15:11] <slickymasterWork> one with today's daily and another fully updated that been being upgraded since 12.04
[15:11] <elfy> I've just done it twice here
[15:12] <slickymasterWork> what is the menulibre installed version you have?
[15:12] <elfy> 2.0.3
[15:14] <qwebirc591238> elfy I have 2.0.3-1 installed
[15:17] <elfy> ochosi: confirm that ppa works here - also it stops it rebooting with a really dim screen.
[15:17] <elfy> so that's \o/ from me
[15:29] <elfy> ochosi: posted in bug with the details - added ppa-purge command too
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> sorry elfy 
[15:30] <elfy> :)
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> lost connectivity (once again)
[15:30] <elfy> yep
[15:30] <slickymasterWork> can you tell me once once again what's installed version?
[15:31] <elfy> 2.0.3
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> strange, that's mine's also
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> on both boxes
[15:31] <elfy> at least that what it reports
[15:31] <slickymasterWork> mine are both 2.0.3-1
[15:32] <slickymasterWork> going to have to poke around to figure it out
[15:32] <elfy> you can do it 2 ways - hover over title, click - write - enter or click the button to the right of the title box
[15:32] <slickymasterWork> tried both ways, no dice
[15:32] <elfy> uh oh
[15:32] <elfy> now what's up 
[15:33]  * elfy waits for upgrade to finish
[15:34] <elfy> ii  menulibre      2.0.3-1
[15:34] <slickymasterWork> those are also mine's
[15:39] <elfy> I recorded me doing it - any idea where I could post that for you to get?
[15:45] <slickymasterWork> nah, nevermind
[15:45] <slickymasterWork> I'll reinstall it
[15:47] <elfy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j31ys0zrmefxu57/out.ogv
[16:24] <elfy> !team 
[16:25] <elfy> assistive tech is currently part of a testcase for the settings manager for some reason - propose to remove that - question is do we need to test that anyway - we'd not be able to do anything anyway if there is a problem I guess
[16:26] <lderan> aye
[16:26] <slickymasterWork> elfy, thanks for that link, but I ended up reinstalling it and now it's working
[16:26] <slickymasterWork> no clue what could have been the culprit
[16:27] <GridCube> i have no idea elfy, but i guess that if we can not do anything about something we better don't make ourselfs responsible of that
[16:30] <elfy> slickymasterWork: ok - cheers
[16:30] <elfy> anyone with access to utopic atm - alt+f2 - xfce4-term - does terminal show in the list 
[16:31] <elfy> GridCube: that's my thinking - we can always create a test and make it optional 
[16:31] <elfy> but I think (need to check) that ubuntu tests this stuff with autopilot 
[16:31] <pleia2> GridCube: +1
[16:32] <elfy> o/ pleia2 
[16:32] <pleia2> g'day elfy 
[16:33] <slickymasterWork> elfy: alt+f2 and xfce4-term does show up in the list
[16:33] <slickymasterWork> hi pleia2 
[16:35] <elfy> slickymasterWork: mmm - not seeing that on this machine nor a vm
[16:35] <pleia2> hey slickymaster :)
[16:57] <elfy> ochosi: got another +1 to that fix now via the bug report 
[19:19] <elfy> ochosi: what you going to do about a meeting - we need to get one soon I guess - things like the m/l and PPA at least need to be sorted
[22:31] <bluesabre> sorry about that elfy/forestpiskie, was looking for some ad hoc testing and wanted to get a request out before I ran out the door this morning
[23:03] <brainwash> bluesabre: can we make lightdm's dependency on the indicator libs optional?
[23:04] <bluesabre> ... I thought it was optional
[23:04] <bluesabre> since it works in not-ubuntu
[23:04] <bluesabre> you have to compile specifically with --enable-indicator-services
[23:05] <brainwash> mmmmh, I missed some things
[23:05] <brainwash> not lightdm, but lightdm-gtk-greeter
[23:05] <brainwash> in ubuntu
[23:05] <bluesabre> right
[23:06] <brainwash> the ubuntu package :)
[23:06] <bluesabre> that's how its compiled, you don't have to include indicators in your config
[23:06] <brainwash> I know that
[23:06] <bluesabre> /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[23:07] <bluesabre> so, it is optional, xubuntu ships with indicators enabled
[23:07] <bluesabre> anyway, gotta run, family here
[23:07] <bluesabre> bbl
[23:08] <brainwash> I'll rebuild the package locally then, guess no one else is bothered by the indicator libs
[23:11] <brainwash> (if one does not use the unity indicators)
[23:13] <ali1234> what's the problem here?
[23:13] <brainwash> there is none
[23:15] <brainwash> greeter depends on libido3-0.1-0 and libindicator3-7, I would like to move the to recommends
[23:16] <ali1234> well, they have to be compiled in afaik
[23:17] <ali1234> so we can't make them recommends... the greeter will just fail to run if they're not installed
[23:17] <brainwash> right
[23:18] <brainwash> can we add a runtime detection?
[23:18] <ali1234> not easily
[23:19] <brainwash> it's not a problem, I'm just curious