[08:01] Saviq, you removed some deps in the cmakelists of mock lightdm plugin - readded [08:08] Cimi, I was rather aggressive in the removals indeed and didn't verify yet [08:09] Saviq, fine now [08:09] Saviq, in my branch [08:10] Saviq, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/infographics-new-lightdm/revision/826 [08:10] Saviq, fixes -ldlightdm... [08:11] can't believe I am patching cmakefiles :D [08:19] mhr3: i just fixed your concerns on https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-api/unity-shell-scopes-api/+merge/219379 [08:20] tsdgeos, thx, will have another look [08:20] mhr3: do you think you'll have time to add some documentation to the various properties/signals in there? [08:20] honestly i don't think i'm the best person to do it [08:30] tsdgeos, yea, just didn't get to it yesterday [08:30] mhr3: oki :) [08:30] tsdgeos, although not exactly thrilled to do it :P [08:31] mhr3: blame Saviq [08:31] it's all his master plan :D [08:31] sure, i do :) [08:32] i'm already trying to figure the next nasty thing i do to him [08:37] tsdgeos, doing the qmltest means the thing needs a ui? [08:38] mhr3: no, why? [08:38] tsdgeos, cause it's qml? :) [08:39] qml doesn't need an ui [08:39] qtquick does [08:39] cool then [08:39] mhr3: besides there's other similar tests in there, mine is not the first [08:39] tsdgeos, although you are importing qtquick [08:40] that's right [08:40] i'm cheating a bit [08:40] actually we do need ui yes :D [08:40] probably [08:40] maybe [08:40] what's your concern? [08:41] jenkins being happy to run them [08:41] or doing it in chroot [08:41] and things like that [08:41] mhr3: since jenkiins is already happy [08:42] i don't see what is the problem :D [08:42] if other tests are doing it already... whatev [08:42] as said i'm not doing anything that wasn't already done in this project [09:43] Saviq: phablet-screenshot has been fixed, and should land shortly in the ppa [09:43] karni, kk [09:54] MacSlow, I am in italy from last night till friday - allergy kicking in is awful ='( [09:56] being allergic to Italy, must be annoying for an italian ;-) [10:01] do we somehow filter the available apps shown in the scope? [10:01] I can find some apps by searching, but they won't show up in the scope normally [10:09] alecu, pstolowski ^? [10:13] Cimi, hope you have you helping cetrizin or the like [10:13] MacSlow, I have stuff that is making me fall asleep :D [10:14] tsdgeos, `|| true` are basically a way to ignore a failure in a script [10:14] Cimi, yeah [10:14] Cimi, I hate that side-effect [10:14] mzanetti, I don't see any limit on the results client-side, but I think server does that if search string is empty. see https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/search , that's what we get when you're just browsing [10:14] tsdgeos, I think exiting with a non-0 status would stop the job from running [10:14] Saviq: ok, seems a bit weird to me we want to ignore those errors :D [10:14] pstolowski: strange, yes. xbmcremote not in there [10:14] tsdgeos, they're not required though [10:15] tsdgeos, in theory ;) [10:15] mzanetti, there is a plan to support pagination to remedy exactly this [10:15] ah, nice [10:16] tsdgeos, basically, we want the greeter to start regardless of the other services failing [10:17] Saviq, preview header looks wrong when there's no icon, is that aftermath of dynamic cards? [10:18] mhr3: may be [10:18] i extracted the old code to the preview header [10:18] i.e. it's nto the same code in cards and preview anymore [10:18] but it was "working" [10:18] obviously i forgot something [10:18] mhr3: can you open a bug? [10:22] tsdgeos, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1319343 [10:22] Ubuntu bug 1319343 in Unity 8 "Preview header widget looks wrong" [Undecided,New] [10:23] mhr3: can you screenshot it and/or give an example of where it happens? [10:23] does screenshot work again? [10:25] nope, doesn't [10:25] mhr3: take a photo :D [10:25] mhr3: or just tell me where it happens [10:26] tsdgeos, music previews [10:27] mhr3: so it should be left aligned totally i guess? [10:27] yea [10:27] unless design changed it again :) [10:27] i'll get this [10:27] nah, that's probably my doing [10:30] hmm my dconf just got corrupted... not good :| [10:36] mhr3: pstolowski: any idea about this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7462064/ [10:37] tsdgeos, -shell tests? [10:37] tsdgeos, fix is being landed [10:37] mhr3: unity8 [10:37] oh? [10:37] don't have any scope [10:37] not sure if because of this [10:38] tsdgeos, try to rm zmq from XDG_RUNTIME_DIR [10:39] plus restart registries [10:39] hmmm [10:39] my scope registry seems unhappy [10:39] sing to it [10:39] calms it down [10:39] is it a plant? [10:40] seems to be crashing all the time [10:40] i.e [10:40] tsdgeos_work@xps:~$ start scope-registry [10:40] scope-registry start/running, process 14294 [10:40] tsdgeos_work@xps:~$ start scope-registry [10:40] scope-registry start/running, process 14328 [10:40] check the log [10:40] where? [10:40] ~/.cache/upstart [10:41] tsdgeos, you can't test the split branch alone... [10:41] tsdgeos, it's built in silo 002 for the purpose of testing [10:41] tsdgeos, should've made that clearer [10:42] Saviq: yes really, since the description says "Note none of these are needed to build or play around with split" [10:42] i didn't see the need to use any other branch [10:43] tsdgeos, well, I might be wrong, then [10:43] let's wait for mterry [10:43] tsdgeos, but I think it's better to just test the silo, that's what it's there for... [10:43] anyone knows why upstart puts his logs in .cache? [10:43] it's the last place i'd look them for in [10:44] tsdgeos, there's no other semi-persistent place to put them in I think... [10:44] tsdgeos, where else would you put them? [10:44] .logs [10:44] :D [10:44] or .log even [10:44] to mimic /var [10:44] yeah, that's not standard, though, .cache is [10:44] well we can start putting binaries in .cache [10:44] since it's in the standard :D [10:45] that's a pretty lame excuse tbh [10:45] tsdgeos, so anything interesting in scope-registry's log? [10:45] mhr3: scoperegistry: unity::scopes::ConfigException: Cannot instantiate run time for Registry, config file: : [10:45] unity::scopes::MiddlewareException: cannot initialize zmq middleware for scope Registry: [10:45] unity::FileException: cannot create endpoint directory /run/user/1000/zmq/priv (errno = 13) [10:45] told you [10:45] mhr3: may i have been tainted by running unity-scopes-shell tests? [10:45] tsdgeos, I agree that we're just missing a lsb standard dir for user logs [10:45] mhr3: i removed the folder [10:45] tsdgeos, no [10:46] i did :D [10:46] it's there again, no clue who's creating it [10:46] tsdgeos, doesn't upstart keep respawning it? [10:47] tsdgeos, stop scope-registry and smart-scopes-proxy [10:47] done [10:47] rm [10:47] start again [10:48] mhr3: ain't working [10:48] mhr3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7462104/ [10:49] tsdgeos, weeeird [10:49] tsdgeos, amd64? [10:49] mhr3: yes [10:49] tsdgeos, try with this one https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-015/+files/libunity-scopes1_0.4.5%2B14.10.20140513-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [10:50] it's about to land.. so safe [10:51] mhr3: same problem [10:51] i had to +x my zmq folder [10:51] it works now === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:52] how come that it works on the phone? [10:52] no idea :D [10:52] well kind of doesn't work either [10:53] the registry doesn't shut down [10:53] but my unity8 is still empty [10:53] this is new, yesterday it was working [10:53] let me reboot just in case [10:59] mhr3, I had similar issue yesterday when running stuff manually in lxc (so no X and no XDG_RUNTIME_DIR), I had to export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000. But perhaps this is something else [11:01] it is [11:01] mhr3, and I just checked with devel; with empty /run/user/1000 the zmq/priv gets created when starting the registry [11:01] yea, works for me too [11:02] i guess it's not a good sign that tsdgeos is gone for 10minutes now :) [11:03] heh [11:03] pstolowski: hello! [11:03] sil2100, hi! [11:04] pstolowski: looking at the new unity-scopes-api with your changes in it, I see in the diff some symbols being removed [11:04] pstolowski: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-015-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-scopes-api_0.4.5+14.10.20140513-0ubuntu1.diff <- you can see that some symbols have disappeared - are those private symbols? [11:06] sil2100, they were either private or from the path of API that no one has been using yet [11:07] mhr3: it is working now [11:07] sil2100, s/path/part/ [11:08] pstolowski: ACK, thanks :) [11:11] sil2100, you know we see those changes in our MPs, right? ;) [11:11] sil2100, there is never going to be a "omg, really? a symbol disappeared? what have we done?!" [11:12] mhr3: ;) [11:13] mhr3: just wanted to put some context in my question! [11:17] for infographics and crossfade effect, what you guys suggest? === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:21] repeater with images crossfading? [11:30] mhr3: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/noiconpreviewheader/+merge/219502 [11:32] tsdgeos, ^ [11:32] crossfading between svg on the same position [11:32] many solutions... which works best? [11:33] Cimi: so we are rendering svg live? [11:34] tsdgeos, I have a model of SVG [11:34] tsdgeos, they are rendered by a daemon iirc [11:34] can we make that be PNG? [11:34] * tsdgeos wants his future phone to not waste baterry rendering a SVG [11:35] Cimi: anyway, continue with the description [11:35] tsdgeos, maybe not [11:35] tsdgeos, but we could create pngs from svgs in the daemon [11:35] tsdgeos, but how about resolution? [11:35] tsdgeos, we can just render them once and cache [11:36] Saviq, we being who? [11:36] Saviq: or render them in the servers :D [11:36] tsdgeos, they're not coming from any servers [11:36] Cimi: my phone doesn't usually cahnge of resolution [11:36] tsdgeos, but ours will, connected to an external device [11:36] screen [11:37] Saviq: then it's probably docked i don't care about battery [11:37] Cimi: anway sorry for disturbing your train of thought with this svg/png thing [11:37] Cimi: so you have a list of images, what next? [11:37] tsdgeos, we have to render them on device anyway - whether it's going to be once in the "visualizer" or once in the image caching service, doesn't really matter [11:38] tsdgeos, talk with pete-woods for changing that [11:39] otp === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch [11:53] /food [11:54] tsdgeos, so the infographics are images [11:54] tsdgeos, we want crossfade them [11:54] tsdgeos, I was wondering which is the best solution [11:55] Repeater with Loader? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:05] mzanetti: ping [12:05] or maybe a simple crossfadeImage [12:05] Wellark: pong [12:05] I see there is unity8 on silo5 [12:06] I'm hoping to be able to land silo9 today which also contains unity8 [12:06] mzanetti: what is the expected landing ETA of silo5 ? [12:06] Wellark: hmm... I hope to be able to land it today too. but that's not guaranteed. maybe tomorrow [12:07] mzanetti: well, there is no guarantee that silo9 lands today either :) [12:07] so I think it's race time! :P [12:07] Wellark: ack. whoever lands first notifies the other [12:07] mzanetti: let's do that :) [12:07] Wellark: fyi: I have most of the logic for the dual sim pin implemented and hope to get design guidance today. [12:10] mzanetti: ok. cool. [12:11] mzanetti: have you secured a designer? [12:11] Wellark: yep, 2 of them :D [12:11] if not, then please don't get stuck waiting :) [12:11] oh, cool. [12:11] mzanetti: do you have a meeting scheduled? [12:11] I would love to join [12:11] Wellark: no... Jouni said he'll walk through it with Olga today and will give me updated visuals [12:12] ok. [12:35] Anyone up for an easy review? https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/remove_revealer/+merge/219511 [12:35] it just removes code! [12:55] dandrader: removal is nice! [12:55] Cimi: using CrossFadeImage to crossfade images sounds good :D [12:56] Cimi: no idea how the class works with multiple images [12:56] Cimi: if not repeater + loader should be ok too [12:57] Saviq, what about expanding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/Checklists/Unity8 to make the reviewer add a "Reviewed by: My-Name-Here" entry to the MP commit message [12:59] tsdgeos, Cimi, it works great with switching sources, that's what it's meant for [12:59] dandrader, I think we could include that in the CI train instead [12:59] didrocks, we did have "Approved by: foo, bar" in the commit logs before, could we get those with the ci train again? or were they removed on purpose? [13:00] Saviq: I guess the request should go to the CI team starting from now (or sil2100) [13:00] Saviq: you didn't raise it in the call last month, so I wrapped up with what was discussed and agreed to work on before moving to other tasks [13:01] didrocks, sure, didn't remember it... [13:01] Saviq: and I would feel unconfortable to dump code on others while not maintaining it [13:01] I guess it's a few lines change, so sil2100 may do that change? [13:02] Saviq, sure, but we been waiting for this automation to come back for ages [13:03] dandrader, I don't think the ones responsible for it knew that, I'm afraid [13:03] Saviq, I guess you could also put the "Use strip-u8-tags.sh if applicable" in the CI train [13:03] dandrader, well, that's unity8-specific, and only temporary, I hope to get rid of that task asap [13:04] * dandrader says "CI train" having only a faint idea of what it really is [13:04] sil2100, let me know please if I should file a bug against cupstream2distro or something === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods [13:04] yeah, was never brought up with us :) [13:04] (or at least, with me) [13:05] maybe mentionned once, but not "critical/now" [13:05] sad, it should be easy [13:05] mterry: ping [13:19] tsdgeos, hello [13:20] mterry: so Saviq mentioned that silo-2 has "split" stuff, but then your MR says that it doesn't really depend on stuff, I was wondering if the problem i have with the greeter being slow to appear was fixed in silo2 but not in that split branch directly? [13:22] tsdgeos, to have the full experience, you need the rest of the silo. But the basic greeter functionality can be tested alone. As for appearing slowly... I would think that wouldn't happen on its own, but maybe some of the session-switching logic in the USC changes is needed. I haven't tested it on its own in a while [13:22] tsdgeos, I guess I'd recommend doing the whole silo [13:22] mterry: ok [13:23] mterry: do you have the ppa link at hand? [13:23] tsdgeos, that stuff in the MR was before I had a silo and it was easy to test -- i.e. I didn't want my testers to go through the pain of building 6 packages [13:23] tsdgeos, ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-002 [13:24] tsdgeos, I just uploaded a crasher fix for logind that was affecting split greeter images yesterday -- so make sure you have a recent image or at least apt-get upgrade on your current one [13:24] tsdgeos, oh, scratch that. That update is still in proposed [13:25] * mterry finds out why [13:30] mterry: there's a few minor things in the MR [13:31] mterry: namely, you killed the x bit for a script [13:31] tsdgeos, hah, I did? Odd [13:31] mterry: and you're resizing to the size that shouldn't be needed (and hasn't been needed until now, no?) [13:31] tsdgeos, not even sure how I would do that accidentally [13:31] tsdgeos, ah... that resizing code. Let me try without it. I remember doing that for working better on the desktop [14:00] mzanetti, if I resize unity8 from portrait to landscape (i.e., increase its width) and I have an application on foreground (talking qt compositor here) the stage goes into spread mode, or better, into a broken stage mode [14:00] s/broken stage mode/broken spread mode [14:01] mzanetti, so, any hints on where the problem likely is? [14:02] dandrader: yeah... need to reset the flickable's contentX to -shift or similar [14:02] dandrader: I can look at that if you want [14:03] mzanetti, oh, that's would be really great! \o. [14:03] \o/ [14:03] ack [14:03] mzanetti, ok, so I will leave the "make stage resizeable" task to you [14:03] ok [14:06] mzanetti, added a task for you on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unity-ui-rotation [14:06] ack === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:06] Cimi, we had a bug for scrolling velocity somewhere... can you remember where to find it? [14:07] Saviq, it's on qt [14:07] Saviq, I will ping you in 1 min [14:07] chrome crashed [14:07] Cimi, k [14:07] Saviq: uhh... that might still be mahattan iirc [14:07] manhattan even [14:08] Saviq, https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-35608 [14:13] Cimi, we should have a UITK bug for that too [14:13] Saviq, at this point, yes. [14:13] we do, no? [14:13] i think i opened one [14:13] I think we have [14:13] tsdgeos, show me! [14:13] or maybe was about something else [14:13] or qtubuntu [14:13] * tsdgeos digs [14:14] Saviq: ah no, was about cacheBuffer (same thing but different) [14:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1279264 [14:14] Ubuntu bug 1279264 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Need a ListView Item that redefines the default cacheBuffer" [Undecided,New] [14:16] mzanetti, did that get included in UListView ↑? [14:16] Saviq: not in my branch, but I remember zsombor wanted to add that. let me check [14:17] Saviq: no, its not in there [14:18] on my pc unity does not start with ./run.sh [14:18] mzanetti, kthxbai [14:18] how do I debug this? [14:18] Cimi, look in ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log [14:18] cat: /home/cimi/.cache/upstart/unity8.log: No such file or directory [14:18] cool [14:18] or well... you should see any output in your terminal anyway... [14:18] silence [14:19] do I need indicators or so? [14:19] it's a fresh install of trusty [14:19] Cimi, ./build.sh -s ? [14:19] Cimi, TRUSTY? [14:19] Cimi, that's not supported for u8 dev [14:19] Saviq, we don't need utopic now [14:20] Cimi, yes we do [14:20] Saviq, we can use sbuild or run on device [14:20] Cimi, well, not for ./run [14:20] correct [14:20] Cimi, unless you make ./run.sh build in a chroot [14:20] I'll run on device [14:21] Saviq, friends told me utopic is crap now, I'll wait until it stabilises [14:21] Cimi, "friends"? ;) [14:21] Cimi, the whole team here works on utopic [14:21] Saviq, some of our colleagues I am not mentioning :) [14:22] paulliu, re: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/fix-typo11/+merge/219536 [14:23] paulliu, prices are going away (replaced by attributes that you're implementing!), so probably no point merging that [14:23] Saviq: ok. no prob [14:23] Saviq: Yeah, I'm tracing the codes and found that. [14:23] Saviq: So just ignore it. [14:23] Saviq: i'll delete the mereg === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:39] Saviq: fginther: any idea when qmluitests will be back? [14:40] tsdgeos, is this for unity8? [14:40] fginther: yes [14:41] tsdgeos, sorry about that. I'll get back to working on this today. I'll keep you posted on progress [14:42] Saviq: ping? [14:44] tsdgeos, pong [14:45] Saviq: so i had a look at the qt5.3 patch [14:45] and it almost works [14:46] i think that since it was thought to be for "extra" margins and not for removing [14:46] we need a very small diff [14:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7463083/ [14:46] that with some coercion i guess i could get upstream [14:46] do you think it makes sense to try? [14:49] tsdgeos, definitely [14:49] mzanetti: silo9 is marked ready for publishing [14:49] Saviq: oki, will work in that, i.e. some lobyiing and some tests .D [14:50] Wellark, so before silo5? [14:50] Wellark: ack. I'll rebuild ours [14:50] Saviq: yeah, we're not quite there yet. found an issue while testing the silo [14:50] mzanetti, kk [14:50] Saviq: me and mzanetti agreed to make a race for it :) [14:50] mterry: waht about the resize thing? any light? [14:50] congrats Wellark :D [14:51] you made the race [14:51] well, it has not been published yet [14:51] mzanetti, Wellark, I left a note for silo 009 to rebuild 002 and 005 [14:51] tsdgeos, oh I didn't retry without it. I'm sure it will work on the phone. I think that was just for desktop, but apparently we have unity8 preview on desktop so that's already better? [14:51] Saviq: thanks! [14:51] tsdgeos, I'll check now [14:51] Saviq: does that mean it happens automagically? [14:52] mzanetti, no [14:52] mzanetti, button needs pushing [14:52] ok [14:52] Wellark, nice track record for bugs fixed on this silo ;) [14:53] you have to merge lp:unity8 to the pending MR's once silo9 lands [14:55] Wellark, we just need to push "build" for them [14:55] Wellark, and that's the comment I left on the silo [14:56] Saviq: ah, right.. I was mixing up the situation where someone has done a manual upload [14:56] indeed. a rebuild should be enough [14:56] mzanetti, that worked indeed http://paste.ubuntu.com/7463133/ [14:56] dandrader: yeah, pretty much what I would have tried [14:57] dandrader: I think the contentX one would have been enough, but the others don't hurt in any case [14:58] mzanetti, just copy-pasted from onFocusedApplicationIdChanged: [14:58] dandrader: right... that is here to hide the spread when a new app shows up [14:58] dandrader: do we want to hide the spread when rotating? [14:58] dandrader: if not you might want to conditionally do the contentX setting if phase == 0 [14:59] I think it *should* be able to handle rotation while its on [14:59] mzanetti, my idea is to add code to the stage to tell shell (via a property) when it can be rotated [14:59] didn't really try it though [14:59] ah ok. so we'd forbid rotating the shell while in spready [14:59] mzanetti, ie, that it only "accepts" being rotated it on phase 0 (the app is fullscreen an now right-edge drag taking place) [15:00] s/an now/and no [15:00] works for me I guess. in case design wants us to allow rotating while in spread, its worth a try to conditionally resetting contentX when phase == 0 [15:01] cyphermox, what did you tell me yesterday? I lost the history [15:02] mzanetti, I think it would be confusing to rotate while on spread, with some indicator down, right-edge dragging something (launcher, greeter) [15:02] dandrader: yeah sure... I think I agree (without actually having tried it) [15:03] tsdgeos, we should probably also backport that patch to 5.2 to replace the one we were carrying, so that we can move to use the new API [15:03] dandrader, mzanetti, I think we need to support rotation as long as the screen is "stable" [15:03] whatever that means :D [15:04] hahaha [15:04] mzanetti, i.e. when you're not touching it [15:04] ah [15:04] Saviq: will need to update the other dashviews too [15:04] Saviq, makes sense [15:04] Saviq: i.e. vJournal, hJournal, organicGrid [15:04] tsdgeos, indeed, we'll need a silo with a backport + our code port [15:04] Saviq: but yes, makes sense [15:05]