[00:17] <tony-smlr> rick_h_: Im trying to install the bookie chrome extension and im getting error: I could not Ping the server with your settings. Server said: API key is invalid.
[00:18] <tony-smlr> url: https://bmark.us/api/v1
[00:18] <tony-smlr> Is that correct?
[00:18] <rick_h_> tony-smlr: so that means that the api key isn't right. Check for spaces?
[00:18] <tony-smlr> ok
[00:19] <tony-smlr> Cool that worked rick_h_ !
[00:19] <rick_h_> tony-smlr: woot
[00:19] <mrgoodcat> possibly should strip input from that though?
[00:20] <mrgoodcat> copy paste often has spaces
[00:20] <mrgoodcat> and that's how i do my api key every time
[00:20] <rick_h_> yea, I've thought about it, and with the api key being a limited scope of characters we could probably do that
[00:20] <tony-smlr> yea,  I read it wrong and thought it was the password...
[00:20] <tony-smlr> but I was able to login and find the api key.  thanks for the help
[00:24] <mrgoodcat> could be a password input instead too
[00:25] <rick_h_> ah, yea the api key is different. You can reset it easily and this way your password isn't sent in any urls or visible shoulder watchers
[00:26] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: gah downloaded the chrome_ext source thinking it would be a simple fix. can't even find the relevant code
[00:26] <mrgoodcat> lol
[00:26] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: lol
[00:26] <mrgoodcat> never made a chrome extension
[00:26] <rick_h_> yea, the extension is in the process of getting moved over
[00:26] <mrgoodcat> never used YUI
[00:26] <rick_h_> and isn't setup and easy to use atm
[00:26] <rick_h_> that's something I've got to spend some time on, but i'll be nice to get it out of the main bookie source and own thing
[00:26] <mrgoodcat> ah got it. so where is the current code?
[00:27] <rick_h_> the goal is to port it to raw js https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie/tree/develop/extensions/chrome_ext
[00:27] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/EyMqmC - Bookie/extensions/chrome_ext at develop · bookieio/Bookie · GitHub
[00:27] <rick_h_> is the code in trunk and https://github.com/bookieio/bookie-chrome is the new repo
[00:27] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/cNvZZI - bookieio/bookie-chrome · GitHub
[00:27] <rick_h_> to port and work on
[00:28] <mrgoodcat> so i made the assumption that options.js was the relevant code
[00:28] <rick_h_> it should probably be models.js when it saves it or something
[00:28] <mrgoodcat> but it seems like mostly boilerplate
[00:28] <mrgoodcat> ah models
[00:29] <rick_h_> https://github.com/bookieio/bookie-chrome/blob/master/chrome_ext/lib/model.js#L643 might be the place to trim it
[00:29] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/3ac1oX - bookie-chrome/chrome_ext/lib/model.js at master · bookieio/bookie-chrome · GitHub
[00:29] <rick_h_> but that's just a top of the head guess :)
[00:30] <mrgoodcat> that's the line i was just looking at
[00:31] <rick_h_> the other thing is to make sure you can'thave a space in the api key https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/auth.py#L372
[00:31] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/dcAlUj - Bookie/bookie/models/auth.py at develop · bookieio/Bookie · GitHub
[00:31] <mrgoodcat> localStorage.setItem('api_key', this.get('api_key').replace(/ /g,''));
[00:31] <mrgoodcat> seems like it would work
[00:32] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: right, assuming there could never be a space in the generated keys
[00:33] <mrgoodcat> ah yes. so strip spaces on keys? or just code review the key generation to make sure no spaces can be used?
[00:33] <mrgoodcat> or write a test to make sure it doesn't happen?
[00:34] <rick_h_> so all of the above really. Because users can sometimes get spaces by copy/paste issues aside from a space in the thing at all
[00:34] <rick_h_> but then again, he used the password, so the space isn't an issue atm :P
[00:34] <rick_h_> he actually used the wrong string
[00:34] <rick_h_> so maybe we just put it all to bed as a non-issue for now :)
[00:34] <mrgoodcat> seems fair
[00:34] <mrgoodcat> too much work for something that affects 0 users
[00:36] <tony-smlr> rick_h_: I agree,  I just didn't read the screen right
[00:38] <tony-smlr> rick_h_: another question,  Im trying to import my bookmarks.  it says You already have an import waiting in the queue. There are currently 0 other imports ahead of you.
[00:38] <tony-smlr> How long does it take?  there is not other status signs
[00:38] <rick_h_> tony-smlr: yea, so it's a backgroud process
[00:38] <rick_h_> it should start and run in a but
[00:39] <rick_h_> it checks every few minutes and processes
[00:39] <tony-smlr> ok. thanks
[00:39] <rick_h_> you'll get an email when it's done (or should)
[00:39] <tony-smlr> Ok cool
[00:40] <tony-smlr> Just got the emal,  Cool
[00:41] <tony-smlr> can I suggest to add " you will get an email when it is complete" to the status page
[00:41] <tony-smlr> or import page...
[00:41] <rick_h_> cool, so now it's going a fetching the content of those web pages and getting the readable content of them
[00:41] <rick_h_> so the eyeball links should start to work over time here
[00:41] <tony-smlr> sweet
[00:41] <rick_h_> sure, will look at adding some notes there.
[01:01] <shakes808> rick_h_ and cmaloney, I was watching your guys' presentation via the YouTubes.  Congrats rick_h_ it seems like Bookie is making it to the Double A leagues ;)
[01:32] <mathomastech> What shakes808 said!  I had some lag and buffering on my end but you guys did a great job!
[02:07] <jrwren> ping
[02:26] <mrgoodcat> Pong
[03:06] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: shakes808 thanks for the nice words there
[03:07] <mrgoodcat> I think you meant mathomastech
[03:08] <rick_h_> bah sorry
[03:08] <rick_h_> tab completion fail
[03:08] <mrgoodcat> figured
[03:09] <mrgoodcat> Happens to the best
[11:26] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:04] <rick_h_> morning
[12:43] <mrgoodcat> morn
[12:50] <brousch> mor
[12:50] <brousch> caughy
[12:50] <brousch> plz
[12:56] <rick_h_> whee, working from the camper in the driveway today
[12:56] <mrgoodcat> interesting place to choose to set up
[12:57] <rick_h_> clearers are going at the house so normally I go to the coffee shop for a bit
[12:57] <rick_h_> but couch delivery today so have to wait for them, so, the camper is a nice spot to chill
[12:57] <rick_h_> and since I added the new AP upstairs I can reach the wifi from the driveway nicely now bwuhahaha
[13:01] <mrgoodcat> lol AP my stupid family. We have 3 APs in my house. One of them is in the kitchen which is clearly the one that you're connected to most of the time. For like a week it was unplugged because every time one of my family members connected to it "the wifi would crash". Turns out, the ethernet cable for that AP had become unplugged from the router
[13:01] <mrgoodcat> I never noticed because it was always unplugged and nobody ever told me about the problem
[14:41] <brousch> What do you think of this improved PyOhio color scheme? http://feralrooster.com:9000/
[14:41] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/MBKne3 - PyOhio [local] | Welcome
[14:41] <brousch> Don't hit it too hard, it's running the django built-in server
[14:41] <rick_h_> Not a fan of the yello
[14:41] <rick_h_> but like the blue/white/grey
[14:41] <brousch> that's maize you fool
[14:42] <rick_h_> yea, well it doesn't fit the rest of the muted pallete imo
[14:42] <brousch> using http://vpcomm.umich.edu/brand/style-guide/design-principles/colors
[14:42] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/TCwjHB - Style Guide: Colors | Global Marketing & Communications
[14:44] <rick_h_>  yea, but you're using a primary color as a highlight for a selected tab
[14:44] <brousch> hm, it does look better with umma tan
[14:44] <rick_h_> and it's the only bright color used
[14:45] <rick_h_> I think if you used the yellow as a backgrund on the circles with the blue text that'd be ok
[14:45] <brousch> try it now
[14:45] <brousch> Hm, maybe switch the navbar grey to maize. Would make it nice and bright
[14:46] <rick_h_> it's definitely muted
[14:49] <mrgoodcat> lol UM?
[14:50] <brousch> oh, baby, the maize everywhere rox
[14:50] <cmaloney> I think you should go with hot dog stand colors.
[14:59] <brousch> Oh yes, look at those colors
[15:02] <mrgoodcat> brousch: should make compatible with stylish and add it to userstyles.org
[15:06] <brousch> Submitted the PR
[15:17] <mrgoodcat> D: http://www.phillymag.com/foobooz/2014/05/13/stuff-freak-yes-really-whiskey-shortage/
[15:17] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/gp4zgv - Stuff To Freak Out About: Yes, There Really Is A Whiskey Shortage | Foobooz
[15:18] <greg-g> umm, aren't all the Ohioans going to revolt with these colors?
[15:21] <rick_h_> greg-g: I was going to ask about that but I prefer it this way to happy to give my feedback :)
[15:21] <brousch> :D
[15:27] <brousch> It's obviously not going to fly. I'll modify it later to something reasonable.
[17:02] <brousch> Well my trolling is apparently too subtle
[17:03] <jrwren> wow, first major issue with trusty :(   samba is crashing like a TON
[17:03] <brousch> First time using Samba4 maybe?
[17:11] <jrwren> not "First" exactly.
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> my samba isn't crashing...
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> oh trusty
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> haven't switched my fileserver yet
[17:22] <jrwren> so... hte issue is partially my fault.
[17:26] <mrgoodcat> what were you doing
[17:37] <brousch> So I looked at a real color scheme for Pyohio. Here is a gem from their branding page "When choosing complementing blue tones, keep in mind our sensitivity at Ohio State to that particular color. Blue should never be visually dominant."
[17:37] <brousch> from OSU's branding page
[17:37] <rick_h_> :)
[17:37] <rick_h_> we're not very good friends
[17:38] <greg-g> :( :( :( https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/reconciling-mozillas-mission-and-w3c-eme/
[17:38] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/TIX5cT - Reconciling Mozilla’s Mission and W3C EME ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog
[17:41] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, talk about a rock and a hard place
[17:41] <greg-g> :(
[17:53] <jrwren> when I upgraded to trusty, all samba related init scripts failed, so I said screw it and just ran smbd -D and nmbd -D as root.
[17:54] <jrwren> so when that package gets upgraded, things like pid for start-stop-daemon doesn't exist.
[17:54] <jrwren> so the service doesn't restart
[18:28] <cmaloney> There's a perfect way to view DRM content via Firefox
[18:29] <cmaloney> Much like the "Know your rights" drop-down I think they need to put something in there that shows that the content that is being viewed is protected under DRM
[18:29] <greg-g> ctrl+l, piratebay.se
[18:29] <cmaloney> and suggest alternatives.
[18:29] <greg-g> ;)
[18:29] <cmaloney> That's perfectly legitimate, and a "teachable moment"
[18:31] <cmaloney> something like "The content industry has a thumb-sucking reliance on using DRM to control your viewing experience. Learn more about how you can regain control of your own viewing by visiting http://mozilla.org/drm_is_a_bag_of_dicks
[18:31] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/QSCd0v - 404: Page Not Found
[18:31] <cmaloney> 404, for now.
[18:31] <brousch> hehe
[18:32] <greg-g> lol
[18:33] <mrgoodcat> damnit cmaloney
[18:33] <mrgoodcat> you got my drink on my computer
[18:33] <cmaloney> Honestly it wasn't a question of how DRM was going to get implemented, but when.
[18:34] <cmaloney> And frankly I think we should give the content industry all the DRM they can handle
[18:34] <greg-g> the same strategy as voting for the most crazy jerk possible, to show how bad things can get?
[18:34] <cmaloney> make it so people can't watch shit on their computers without the CEO of Hollywood giving explicit permission
[18:35] <cmaloney> greg-g: I prefer to think of it as giving a gasoline shower to the jerk trying to self-immolate.
[18:35] <cmaloney> Get them to the inevitable destination quicker.
[18:35] <cmaloney> We've tried to save the industry from themselves.
[18:35] <cmaloney> Only a handful listened.
[18:36] <mrgoodcat> the ceo of hollywood
[18:37] <cmaloney> The CEO of Hollywood, the president of the RIAA, foolscap of ASCAP.
[18:38] <cmaloney> There's only so many ways you can tell them that piracy is the result of a missed marketing opportunity
[18:39] <cmaloney> And it sickens me when bands, studios, publishers, and "the industry" try like hell to keep people from sharing.
[18:40] <cmaloney> Which is one of the fundamental lessons we teach kids when they're young
[18:40] <cmaloney> "This is a good song." "Oh, what is it?" "Fuck you, you freeloading freak."
[18:41] <cmaloney> Great message.
[18:42] <rick_h_> is it bad of me that I'm nervous about people that don't like to go by their name?
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> do they go by something completely unrelated?
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> call me highlander..
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> your name is greg tho....
[18:43] <mrgoodcat> HIGHLANDER
[18:43] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Some have bad connontations with their given name
[18:44] <cmaloney> Which is why Wolf changed his name to "Wolf"
[18:44] <mrgoodcat> there's a kid on my brother's lacrosse team whose name is Paul Hitler
[18:44] <cmaloney> I wouldn't be nervous about it
[18:44] <mrgoodcat> er. his dad is paul
[18:44] <mrgoodcat> he's Justin
[18:45] <cmaloney> rick_h_: However I would be nervous if someone changed their name to something that's offensive.
[18:46] <cmaloney> Like "My given name is John Doe, but folks call me [insert rather offensive term here]"
[18:46]  * cmaloney is trying to show restraint. :)
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> dickslinger
[18:46] <rick_h_> So the guy's name is paul, he uses the online name violet, and prefers to be called Vi
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> hrm... that is rather odd
[18:47] <cmaloney> I think that's indicitive of someone who may be planning to become female.
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> i didn't know we were talking about online names though
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> my real name isn't mrgoodcat....
[18:47]  * cmaloney knew a Chuck that became a Christie
[18:47] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, I had that thought. But I guess I'd just consider you changed your name?
[18:48] <cmaloney> COuld be a personal as well
[18:48] <cmaloney> persona, rather
[18:48] <rick_h_> I'll try to keep an open mind on it I guess. I can dream up legit reasons, it just makes me think a couple of times.
[18:48] <cmaloney> Welcome to being a geek. :)
[18:49] <cmaloney> It took me a while to realize that Nuri Gocay (chairman of Penguicon 2014 / 2015) was actually his real name.
[18:49] <cmaloney> It sounded like a pen-name.
[18:49] <rick_h_> heh
[18:50] <cmaloney> and hey, at least he wants to be called "Vi" and not "Emacs".
[18:51] <cmaloney> ;)
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> what about vimacs? http://www.algorithm.com.au/code/vimacs/
[18:52] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/JMdIrO - Vimacs
[18:52] <cmaloney> HERESY
[20:04] <mrgoodcat> http://gigaom.com/2014/05/13/atts-gigapower-plans-turn-privacy-into-a-luxury-that-few-would-choose/?
[20:04] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/55w0MC - AT&T’s GigaPower plans turn privacy into a luxury that few would choose — Tech News and Analysis
[20:04] <mrgoodcat> seriously at&t
[20:04] <mrgoodcat> WHAT THE FUCK