[02:40] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards)
[06:23] <jussi> agateau: so about the shirts - what sizes did you want? 
[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:24] <yofel> moin
[07:48] <agateau> jussi: I would have loved to have a male-L size, but it seems it is not possible
[07:49] <agateau> jussi: going to ask the organizer
[07:49] <jussi> agateau: yeah, unfortunately male L sells the best - I always order more of those, but still, obviously not enough
[07:49] <agateau> heh
[07:50] <agateau> Do we have other goodies, maybe? Mugs or things like that?
[07:50] <jussi> agateau: to attract more women, you might want to ask him if he wants to have a first 3 ladies get a free shirt or something also ?
[07:50] <jussi> nothing at the moment
[07:54] <agateau> jussi: can you give me the link to the shop again? sorry, can't find it anymore
[07:54] <jussi> agateau: in topic... :)
[07:54] <agateau> oh
[07:54] <agateau> jussi: also, kubuntu.org should have this link as well
[07:55] <jussi> I thought we put it there...
[07:55] <jussi> oh its there in an article... Riddell, can we add the shop link properly to kubuntu.org ?
[08:21] <Riddell> jussi: I can try
[08:22] <Riddell> scary e-mail du jour! http://paste.kde.org/pp13lm83e
[08:23] <valorie> chrootkit!
[08:23] <valorie> you really get 'em, Riddell
[08:26] <agateau> Riddell: ah! finally your evil master plan is revealed!
[08:53] <Peace-> agateau: are you developing  menubar ?
[08:53] <Peace-> i mean the plasmoid ?
[08:53] <agateau> Peace-: not for the last two or three years
[08:54] <Peace-> agateau: in krita there are problems sometimes it doesn't show all the menu , and in firefox it's a pain
[08:55] <agateau> Peace-: I do not maintain it anymore, sorry. The new maintainer is Cédric Bellegarde ( https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk )
[08:55] <Peace-> agateau: well thankyou anyway :)
[08:55] <soee> Peace-: and in Thunderbird :)
[08:56] <Peace-> soee: i don't use thunderbird :P 
[08:58] <Peace->  anyway i will try to contact him 
[09:10] <yofel> tbird will have the same issues as firefox
[09:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/kdeconnect/utopic/kdeconnect_0.5.2.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
[09:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you upload plz
[09:40] <Riddell> gosh a new release already?
[09:41] <Riddell> no kio or cli?
[09:42] <Riddell> uploaded!
[09:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: if you see the kdeconnect dude could you ask him to put in remote control features for dragon/vlc/PMC?  I have this lovely new home cinema setup that is spoilt by the laptop being out of read and having to stand up to pause what I'm watching :)
[09:43] <shadeslayer> doesn't it already have those things?
[09:44] <shadeslayer> I could control spotify
[09:44] <Riddell> right, which is music, through mpris
[09:44] <Riddell> but I don't think there's an equivalent standard interface for video
[09:45] <Riddell> maybe there is an I just haven't tried it
[09:48] <shadeslayer> vlc does mpris I think
[09:48] <shadeslayer> org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.vlc
[09:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[09:49] <Riddell> can you remember why we didn't include kdeconnect on the ISO?
[09:51] <shadeslayer> no space? :P
[09:52] <Riddell> genius, it does work with dragon and vlc, I just didn't try it
[09:52] <Riddell> I can now watch game of thrones in comfort
[09:53] <Riddell> err I mean, I can now watch Pedro Almodovar films to practice my spanish in comfort
[10:06] <shadeslayer> riiight that
[10:06] <shadeslayer> :P
[10:39] <Riddell> on installing ksysguard from plasma next..
[10:39] <Riddell>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/processcore.mo', which is also in package kde-l10n-engb 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1
[10:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/upload/kdeconnect/trusty/kdeconnect_0.5.2.1-0ubuntu0.1.dsc
[10:39] <Riddell> I guess I need to update those langpacks
[10:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you argue with archive admins about how it would get in?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: for trusty
[10:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes, AFAICT it's only bug fixes
[10:40] <shadeslayer> there's some new code, but that's disabled in CMake
[10:40] <shadeslayer> the kde-cli app appears in the diff, but discounting that, everything looks like a bug fix to me
[10:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: uploaded!
[10:40] <shadeslayer> cheers
[10:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ^^ please review
[10:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: apply for motu
[10:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: will do today
[10:48] <shadeslayer> in the evening
[10:48] <shadeslayer> I hate paperwork
[10:48] <shadeslayer> so boring
[10:48] <shadeslayer> actually, I have kio hacking scheduled then
[10:48] <shadeslayer> hm
[10:48] <shadeslayer> paperwork vs kio
[10:48] <shadeslayer> ^^ such a difficult choice
[10:55] <Riddell> what needs hacking in kio?
[10:57] <shadeslayer> deprecated calls to stuff
[10:57] <shadeslayer> yesterday was a good day, not a single crash reported
[10:57] <shadeslayer> hurray
[11:16] <Riddell> ** please take seele's notifications survey http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1655301/Desktop-Notification-Survey-Open-Source
[11:16] <Riddell> easy enough to do, just wait for a notification and answer some questions about it
[11:26] <yofel> "I have notifications because they steal my keyboard focus every time", end of my opinion
[11:26] <yofel> erm
[11:26] <yofel> that was supposed to be 'I hate...'
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:31] <Riddell> I've never had it steal focus from me
[11:33] <jussi> another notifications survey?  Ive done like 5 of them in the last 2 years...
[11:33] <Riddell> yeah but this one is cooler
[11:35] <yofel> yeah, seems to only be me, but I'm clueless why it's doing that
[12:02] <Riddell> jussi: link added http://www.kubuntu.org/
[12:49] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc8JT4A7Sp4
[12:51] <Riddell> tasty
[12:52] <apachelogger> my heart be broken
[13:43] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7467873/
[14:14] <Riddell> sgclark: hmm, I'm not sure what's breaking about that
[14:15] <Riddell> sgclark: sorry I'm about to leave, nudge someone else
[14:19] <sgclark> ok
[14:19] <shadeslayer> ../kdepim/debian/knotes.install
[14:19] <shadeslayer> 8:usr/lib/libnoteshared.so
[14:19] <shadeslayer> whai?!
[14:21] <sgclark> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7467873/ ? I guess the real question is how to create that version shortcut?
[14:21] <shadeslayer> huh
[14:21] <shadeslayer> what
[14:21] <sgclark> the build fails as it does not understand the debian shortcut in the paste
[14:22] <shadeslayer> I was trying to wrap head around why the notes plasmoid ships a dev so symlink
[14:22]  * shadeslayer wonders who to blame
[14:22] <sgclark> yeah dunno, Riddle told me to bug someone else on my problem :)
[14:22] <shadeslayer> uh huh
[14:26] <shadeslayer> bzr blame says it was sgclark :(
[14:26] <shadeslayer> sgclark: fwiw usr/lib/libnoteshared.so in knotes.install is wrong :)
[14:29] <sgclark> oh I see. sorry, think that ws one of my first biggies
[14:29] <shadeslayer> np :)
[14:29] <shadeslayer> so, onto your problem
[14:29] <shadeslayer> it should be coming from meta-kde IIRC
[14:29] <shadeslayer> or maybe pkg-kde-tools
[14:29] <shadeslayer> one of those
[14:30]  * shadeslayer is leaning towards the latter, vaguely recall doing something with that var at the start of the week
[14:30] <sgclark> this is the meta-kde package, merging with debian
[14:31] <shadeslayer> then it's pkg-kde-tools
[14:31] <shadeslayer> can you pastebin the entire error
[14:31] <sgclark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7468045/
[14:32] <shadeslayer> sgclark: does that come from debian? or us?
[14:32] <sgclark> shadeslayer: that is debian
[14:33] <shadeslayer> sgclark:             -V'devLatestWorkspace:Version=$(DEV_LATEST_WORKSPACE_VERSION)' \
[14:33] <shadeslayer> I see that in debian/rules for meta-kde
[14:33] <shadeslayer> so something you dropped maybe?
[14:35] <sgclark> shadeslayer ahhh right: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7468070/
[14:36] <sgclark> ty
[14:56] <sgclark> shadeslayer: can you review meta-kde https://launchpad.net/~scarlett-7/+archive/kubuntu-ppa/+packages please
[14:59] <yofel> sgclark: what's the difference between your ubuntu1 and the ubuntu2 in the archive?
[14:59] <sgclark> mine is a merge, I don't know, looking
[15:00] <yofel> nvm, I always forget that launchpad has a button for that -.-
[15:00] <sgclark> yofel: I did this because when doing another merge this was a dependnency that could not be met, why would that be?
[15:01] <yofel> sgclark: FWIW, it seems you missed that rohan already merged this 9 days ago: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/175656823/meta-kde_5%3A84ubuntu2_5%3A84ubuntu1.diff.gz
[15:01] <yofel> the diff shows that you started from the trusty package
[15:03] <yofel> sgclark: what was the issue you had while building again?
[15:03] <sgclark> what do I have to do then for my packages to not fail because this dependency is missing,?
[15:05] <sgclark> oh hmm, new setup, seems I am missing experimental in sources, my bad sorry
[15:05] <yofel> no wait, kde-sc-dev-latest only makes sense for KDE SC packages, and those don't need experimental
[15:05] <yofel> so that's definitely not the problem
[15:06] <sgclark> oh ok
[15:11] <yofel> shadeslayer: out of curiosity, with what are you merging in debian? git?
[15:11] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:11] <yofel> sgclark: ^
[15:11] <yofel> as I think she's confused by packages being a v4.12 in unstable
[15:11] <yofel> *at
[15:12] <shadeslayer> well, only some packages have been upgraded to 4.13 in git as well
[15:12] <yofel> greaaaaaat
[15:13] <shadeslayer> for eg kdelibs is at 4.13
[15:13] <shadeslayer> er
[15:13] <shadeslayer> no
[15:13] <yofel> we need a better workflow :S
[15:13] <shadeslayer> yeah, kdelibs is still at 4.12 too
[15:13] <shadeslayer> so, I think everything is at 4.12
[15:14] <apachelogger> ur all drunk
[15:14] <sgclark> yeah, I am certainly confused lol. I am not to merge with unstabe?
[15:14]  * shadeslayer is merging with master since that's the latest stuff debian has, with any bug fixes and what not
[15:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: btw. are we caring about copyright files yet? As debian has them clean, we could clean ours up by taking theirs and extracting copyright updates from kde git
[15:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: I tend to copy over the ones that debian has, lower delta / headache that way
[15:15] <shadeslayer> for kde sc
[15:16] <shadeslayer> haven't looked at other stuff yet
[15:16] <yofel> that's sensible, still not correct though
[15:16] <yofel> theirs are much better than ours anyway
[15:16] <shadeslayer> I thinks thats the most sensible and least painful way tbh
[15:16] <shadeslayer> especially for large stuff like kdelibs
[15:16] <apachelogger> theirs are better because we don't give le crap
[15:17] <yofel> well, we don't give le crap because we can get away with it, not because it's ok :/
[15:17] <shadeslayer> tbh I couldn't care less :P
[15:17] <apachelogger> actually it's perfectly ok
[15:17] <sgclark> ok, so where do I find this master I should be merging with? sorry I was taught to merge with sid
[15:18] <yofel> apachelogger: how so?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> sgclark: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/
[15:18] <sgclark> ty
[15:20] <shadeslayer> valorie: CC catch up today?
[15:20] <apachelogger> yofel: it's a workaround
[15:20] <apachelogger> a big bloody workaround for 2 things actually
[15:20] <apachelogger> a) everyone being an artist and putting unicorns around their copyright notices such that a computer has a hard time actually finding them
[15:22] <apachelogger> b) the fact that to distribute a thing you need to have it ship a license saying it is allowed for you to shippery it is necessary, that applies to binary as much as to the source, but since everyone is busy being an artist a lot of applications do not actually provide any such information on their own in the binary making the distribution of the binaries illegal in the eyes of interntaional law
[15:23] <apachelogger> so because everyone is an artist and making stuff unparsable you get to stick needles in your eyes and because everyone is busy being an artist you get to make your own statement saying that this here binary is gpl or whatever and may be redstributed and very dearly fondled
[15:24] <apachelogger> so does debian/copyright do anything to make the world a better place? no.
[15:24] <yofel> oh well
[15:24] <yofel> guess I'm in a too rightful mood today
[15:24] <apachelogger> I know the feeling
[15:24] <apachelogger> you should package ksquirrel or what its called
[15:24] <apachelogger> you'll stop giving a shit about debian/copyright
[15:25] <sgclark> unfortunately, I still not know why my packages cannot find the merged kde-sc-dev latest :(
[15:25] <yofel> sgclark: what's the exact error please?
[15:25] <yofel> also, you are building for utopic, right?
[15:26] <apachelogger> can someone make the kopete dude file bug reports?
[15:26] <yofel> context?
[15:26] <apachelogger> spam
[15:27] <yofel> ah right, spam it is
[15:28] <apachelogger> talking about spam
[15:28] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
[15:28] <sgclark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7468301/
[15:28] <sgclark> I am on trusty, do I need to upgrade to utopic?
[15:30] <shadeslayer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29
[15:32] <yofel> sgclark: you'll have to build on utopic. You should use a chroot directly or with pbuilder/sbuild though instead of upgrading
[15:33] <yofel> the version you need isn't available for trusty
[15:33] <yofel> (nor would building on trusty really do much as we need to know whether things work in utopic)
[15:34] <sgclark> yofel: thank you! building chroot before I go any further
[15:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: so what's the plan with the uploadery, Riddell wanted to upload right away
[15:43] <shadeslayer> I've added breaks/replaces for things to be uploaded right away too
[15:45] <yofel> well, just go ahead then. I think we were more arguing about not going .1 than about uploading
[15:47] <shadeslayer> did I ever mention I hate merging?
[15:48] <yofel> not today
[15:48]  * sgclark agrees
[15:48] <shadeslayer> I hate merging
[15:48]  * yofel hands shadeslayer a cup of coffee
[15:48] <shadeslayer> coffee isn't going to do me any good at this point
[15:48] <yofel> ^^
[16:55] <valorie> shadeslayer o/
[16:55] <shadeslayer> yo
[16:55]  * valorie shares the coffee
[17:03] <valorie> shadeslayer: it's time
[17:04] <valorie> although membership board is first
[17:14] <valorie> shadeslayer? I don't see you in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:17] <shadeslayer> is it?
[17:17] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:17] <valorie> lol
[17:17] <shadeslayer> valorie: already over?
[17:18] <valorie> no, they are still debating with the membership board
[17:18] <shadeslayer> cool
[17:18] <shadeslayer> phew
[17:20] <shadeslayer> valorie: want to sync notes?
[17:21] <valorie> mine are at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/CCmeeting
[17:23] <shadeslayer> valorie: just one thing to add, the donation report situation
[17:23] <shadeslayer> apart from that it looks good
[17:24] <shadeslayer> valorie: http://imgur.com/Mcpajig
[17:24] <shadeslayer> is what I gety
[17:24] <valorie> hmmm
[17:24] <valorie> ok
[17:25] <valorie> I'm not editing, but if you can't, I will add that
[17:26] <shadeslayer> plz do
[17:29] <valorie> done
[17:34] <shadeslayer> are they still discussing stuff from the previous meeting
[17:36] <valorie> Membership board and us are both on their agenda today
[17:36] <valorie> membership board first
[17:36] <valorie> blah blah blah
[17:37] <yofel> o/
[17:37]  * yofel tries to read backlog
[17:38] <valorie> omg, do not
[17:39] <shadeslayer> ^^
[17:39]  * shadeslayer is whiling away time on the internets
[21:33] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how did it go?
[21:35] <Riddell> valorie, ScottK: how did it go?
[21:44] <Darkwing> Hey guys
[21:44] <Riddell> it's... Darkwing!
[22:18] <valorie> Riddell: it went well
[22:18] <valorie> I'll write a blog post about it in a min
[22:36] <Darkwing> *sigh* sometime having a newer laptop is rough