[00:01] <TheFakeazneD525> SimonJ[Tense]: hmm
[00:01] <TheFakeazneD525> SimonJ[Tense]: bin is probably a SHAR archive
[00:01] <TheFakeazneD525> (lolredundancy)
[00:02] <SimonJ[Tense]> TheFakeazneD525: Would it help if I told you it is "Revenge of the cats: Ethernet" I downloaded the Linux version before you ask.
[00:02] <TheFakeazneD525> SimonJ[Tense]: you'll want to open konsole, cd to the directory of the .bin and then run bash ./the_filename.bin
[00:02] <SimonJ[Tense]> TheFakeazneD525: I'll try that, cheers!
[00:02] <TheFakeazneD525> SimonJ[Tense]: hmm, for an install I think
[00:02] <TheFakeazneD525> you should also include sudo
[00:03] <TheFakeazneD525> like, sudo bash ./the_filename.bin
[00:03] <TheFakeazneD525> if it is going to install into /usr/bin or wherever
[00:06] <SimonJ[Tense]> TheFakeazneD525: I did sudo su, Trying to use "bash ~/home/simonj/Downloads/rotc-ethernet-p.5.4-linux/rotc.bin" No dice, No such directory error. I tried it without the Root squiggle too.
[00:06] <TheFakeazneD525> ah, when in root, ~/ will be the /root directory, not your home dir
[00:13] <SimonJ[Tense]> Still throwing up "no such file etc".
[00:15] <SimonJ[Tense]> TheFakeazneD525: Cheers for helping, I'll see if I can find other 3D games to punish my VM.
[06:34] <amichair_> On a fresh 14.04 install, I have LC_* env variables set to the wrong language. System settings has only 'American English' selected in languages, which is what I want. Where are these LC values coming from?
[06:42] <valorie> amichair_: that's locale
[06:42] <valorie> !locale
[06:50] <amichair_> valorie: that first link seems outdated
[06:55] <valorie> true
[07:00] <amichair_> valorie: /etc/default/locale seems to have the bad ones, how do I apply it?
[07:03] <valorie> amichair_: the second file is all about that
[07:09] <amichair_> valorie: oh right, too much noise around it :-)
[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:02] <marcellus_> hi, I am having problems to print with a canon pixma pm190: I can print a first thing and then I cannot print anything any more untill I turn off the printer
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:28] <rcw2> i put kcm_adobe_flash_player.so into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins but chrome still prompts for adobe flash installation
[12:28] <rcw2> "Your version of Adobe Flash is no longer supported"
[12:32] <oofus> Hi. Since 14.04 came out I've been unable to upgrade my 13.10 install. Every time I run the upgrade tool I get an error message "Could not determine the upgrade - An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." etc etc etc.
[12:32] <oofus> ay hints on how I might track this down and fix it
[12:37] <hateball> rcw2: well, you need the pepper flash since npapi is gone in chromium now
[12:38] <hateball> rcw2: pepperflashplugin-nonfree sorts that for you on 14.04
[12:40] <BluesKaj> hateball, it still doesn't work on some sites in FF tho
[12:55] <hateball> BluesKaj: That's npapi flash, in Firefox. Not Flash for chromium (which now has to be pepper) which is what rcw2 asked about
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hateball, ok, chromium does work well on on most sites with pepper flash, but prefer FF due to it's configurability
[13:20] <rcw2> i have pepper flash installed
[13:21] <rcw2> already
[13:22] <rcw2> so what can it be
[13:24] <BluesKaj> chrome or chromium, rcw2 ?
[13:25] <rcw2> BluesKaj, chromium
[13:26] <BluesKaj> rcw2, can you give an example site where pepper doesn't work ?
[13:27] <rcw2> kongregate.com asks me to update flash
[13:28] <rcw2> and chessfriends.com
[13:31] <BluesKaj> rcw2, what does chrome://plugins/ in the addressbar show
[13:33] <rcw2> chromoting viewer and google talk
[13:33] <rcw2> only
[13:34] <BluesKaj> so the plugin isn't installed on chromium then
[13:36] <rcw2> how can i remedy that
[13:36] <BluesKaj> rcw2, try installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[13:36] <rcw2> but it is already installed into kubuntu
[13:36] <vndtta> can anyone tell me about this error "edd: error 8000 reeading sector ..." while booting from flash disk
[13:36] <rcw2> install it as an extension?
[13:40] <rcw2> so pepperflash is installed, but it didn't seem to integrate with chromium
[13:40] <rcw2> why could that be
[13:43] <BluesKaj> rcw2, open krunner, do you have this file /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[13:46] <rcw2> sorry how is krunner used
[13:46] <rcw2> once i have it running
[13:46] <hateball> rcw2: alt+f2
[13:46] <hateball> by default
[13:47] <rcw2> i type '/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree' into the command line in krunner?
[13:48] <vndtta> i'm trying to boot live from usb flash, using this image kubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso. checked md5sum. tried several times three different ways make bootable flash with it, but always get an error list of this type "edd: error 8000 reading sector ..." while booting, plz explain me what am i doing wrong
[13:48] <BluesKaj> rcw2,yes
[13:49] <rcw2> it shows two files
[13:49] <rcw2> pubkey-google.txt
[13:49] <rcw2> is one
[13:50] <BluesKaj> vndtta, is this a fairly new pc/laptop, less the 3yrs old?
[13:50] <vndtta> yes
[13:50] <vndtta> pc is about 1.5 years old
[13:50] <alexandergarmash> Всем привет!
[13:51] <BluesKaj> rcw2, but is pepperflashplugin-nonfree there?
[13:51] <alexandergarmash> Нужна помощь!
[13:51] <alexandergarmash> Как установить флеш плеер?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> vndtta, then you have uefi /bios
[13:52] <BluesKaj> !uefi | vndtta
[13:52] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i see /usr/lib/pepperflash-nonfree then two files inside that dir
[13:53] <BluesKaj> rcw2, is there libpepflashplayer.so ?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> !ru | alexandergarmash
[13:54] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:54] <rcw2> not inside /usr/lib/pepperflash-nonfree dir no
[13:54] <rcw2> should i download it and move it there?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> rcw2, reinstall it , you might have installed it before you installed chromium
[14:00] <BluesKaj> rcw2, reinstall pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[14:01] <hateball> the package is supposed to add those lines in the text file to the chromium-browser launcher script
[14:03] <BluesKaj> hateball, I've heard of this problem before, obviously the plugin doesn't always add the lines
[14:04] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta do some errands ..bbl
[14:05] <rcw2> ok, it didn't add the lines again, perhaps
[14:05] <rcw2> after reinstalling
[14:06] <rcw2> bug report?
[14:08] <hateball> rcw2: you can copy it manually to /etc/chromium-browser/default
[14:08] <hateball> but yeah, bug reporting doesnt hurt
[14:08] <rcw2> the so file?
[14:08] <vndtta_> if my pc is using EFI boot, and grub instlled on flash drive is of efi version
[14:09] <vndtta_> what else could be problem
[14:09] <hateball> rcw2: nah. it should look like so http://paste.ubuntu.com/7467958/
[14:09] <hateball> rcw2: the default file that is
[14:10] <hateball> rcw2: the package should push that from /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/etc-chromium-default.txt but I guess it didnt in your case
[14:12] <rcw2> what do i copy to /etc/chromium-browser/default
[14:16] <hateball> rcw2: the text I linked you
[14:17] <hateball> rcw2: open it with text editor of choice
[14:17] <rcw2> exactly that?
[14:17] <hateball> rcw2: assuming you've not added any other options yourself
[14:17] <rcw2> options where?
[14:18] <hateball> the... chromium_flags
[14:18] <hateball> actually I see I have some legacy from an old installer in my config
[14:18] <rcw2> what should i call the file
[14:18] <hateball> anyhow. the contents of /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/etc-chromium-default.txt is what should go in /etc/chromium-browser/default
[14:22] <rcw2> /etc/chromium-browser/default.txt ?
[14:22] <rcw2> i dont have a directory /etc/chromium-browser/default/
[14:23] <hateball> It's a file
[14:23] <rcw2> ok what i have now is /etc/chromium-browser/default.txt with the contents of the lines you pasted inside default.txt is this correct?
[14:24] <hateball> rcw2: No. It's /etc/chromium-browser/default not /etc/chromium-browser/default.txt
[14:29] <bennypr0fane> hi, has anyone else noticed that file-choosing dialogs differ in whether  it' single or double click to open a folder?
[14:31] <bennypr0fane> It's different each time, sometimes single click goes into the folder, sometimes it just selects it. I don't understand what causes that. I'd like to have single click open folders always
[14:32] <rcw2> after that change to default i see '/usr/bin/chromium-browser: 6: .: Can't open /usr/lib/pepflashplugin-installer/pepflashplayer.sh'
[14:33] <hateball> rcw2: no that's because you used my paste which had some old shit in it. Just use /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/etc-chromium-default.txt instead
[14:34] <hateball> rcw2: easiest is probably: "sudo rm /etc/chromium-browser/default && sudo cp /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/etc-chromium-default.txt /etc/chromium-browser/default"
[14:35] <rcw2> contents of  /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/etc-chromium-default.txt is in /etc/chromium-browser/default now, but the plugin doesnt show still in chromium
[14:35] <hateball> rcw2: did you restart the browser
[14:35] <rcw2> yes
[14:37] <hateball> rcw2: what if you launch it like so: "chromium-browser --ppapi-flash-path=/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so"
[14:37] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, system settings>input devices>mouse>choose "single click to open files and folders"
[14:38] <rcw2> quick bash question please.  how do i go from sudo to a user
[14:38] <hateball> rcw2: exit
[14:38] <bennypr0fane> rcw2: or su <user>
[14:39] <rcw2> exit exits the terminal program
[14:39] <hateball> if you're in a root session it should return to the user that started it
[14:39] <hateball> I assumed that was what you meant
[14:39] <hateball> Running something with sudo does exactly that, runs it. Once.
[14:40] <rcw2> i have it setup to start as root
[14:40] <rcw2> not a user
[14:40] <rcw2> well, running that command didn't load the plugin
[14:40] <hateball> very well, then what bennypr0fane
[14:40] <hateball> said
[14:40] <hateball> ugh
[14:40] <hateball> I'd just purge the pepperflash and chromium-browser packages and start anew
[14:41] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: if it's just a matter of changing this global setting, then why do some apps already behave the way i want
[14:41] <bennypr0fane> ?
[14:41] <rcw2> can i download chrome
[14:41] <hateball> I think google has debs you can just install
[14:41] <rcw2> someone asked me which of the two i was running.  so i can install chrome?
[14:42] <hateball> not sure if chrome is in partner repos
[14:42] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, good question, but I don't know why that behaviour persists
[14:43] <BluesKaj> chrome won't help
[14:43] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: maybe bcs i already have this setting in place. then the question truns into why don't all the apps behave that way?
[14:44] <hateball> bennypr0fane: Are you using GTK apps maybe
[14:44] <bennypr0fane> note that I'm talking about the file choosing dialogs, not what Dolphin does. e.g. in any app, when you go file>open, and then a dialog comes up
[14:44] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, so you already had the single click setting enabled before this problem showed up ?
[14:44] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: is the behavior consistent for all apps on yr system?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, yes
[14:45] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: yes, I did. Technically, the problem never "showed up", it was always there from installation
[14:47] <bennypr0fane> have you never seen different apps bring up file-choosing dialogs(FCDs) that looked entirely different from the usual system layout, like generated by some other window manager?
[14:47] <hateball> bennypr0fane: Are you using GTK apps maybe
[14:48] <bennypr0fane> but for me even the ones that look completely normal don't all behave the same
[14:48] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, hateballh
[14:48] <bennypr0fane> hateball: maybe. How can I tell if an app is gtk?
[14:48] <hateball> bennypr0fane: well, give us the name :p
[14:48] <BluesKaj> has a point about gtk
[14:49] <hateball> KDE has ways to skin and change fonts for GTK apps so it looks "native" but it wont change the mouse behavior
[14:50] <bennypr0fane> hm, so you're also syaing, all kde apps should exhibit the single-click-to-open behavior if that's how I choose it in my settings, yes?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:52] <bennypr0fane> or in other words that behavior is governed by whether it's kde ot not? what if it's neither kde nor gtk? e.g. Xfcburn
[14:53] <hateball> Xfce uses GTK for most things, you sure xfcburn doesnt?
[14:53] <hateball> anyhow, you can tell quite easy
[14:53] <hateball> ldd /usr/bin/gimp|grep gtk
[14:53] <hateball>         libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa06027e000)
[14:53] <bennypr0fane> hateball: no, that was just of the top of my head
[14:53] <hateball> just check whatever app that troubles you with ldd
[14:53] <bennypr0fane> hateball: um, waht?
[14:54] <hateball> ldd shows that gimp depends on gtk libs
[14:54] <bennypr0fane> ok
[14:54] <bennypr0fane> dependencies, yes?
[14:54] <bennypr0fane> e.g.
[14:54] <rcw2> chrome is running with Adobe Flash Player (2 files) - Version: 13.0.0.214 but should i see pepper somewhere?
[14:55] <hateball> as in, if you don't have GTK it wont run. Which means it uses GTK. Which means the mouse behavior wont be like in KDE
[14:55] <hateball> rcw2: No, it *should* say Adobe Flash
[14:55] <bennypr0fane> clementine is not a standard KDE app, but it behaves the way I want
[14:55] <hateball> clementine uses qt iirc
[14:55] <rcw2> wheres a good place to submit a bug report if i wanted to
[14:55] <bennypr0fane> hateball: yes it does
[14:55] <rcw2> for chromium
[14:55] <hateball> Should say Qt instead of KDE in this case I suppose
[14:55] <hateball> !launchpad | rcw2
[14:56] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, so which desktop is default on your system?
[14:56] <bennypr0fane> KDE
[14:56] <bennypr0fane> all standard KDE apps are Qt?
[14:56] <hateball> anyhow, you can change GTK behavior using gconf iirc, but I dont recall what values etc. It is surely googlable
[14:56] <hateball> bennypr0fane: Yes
[14:57] <hateball> Note that KDE != Kubuntu
[14:57] <hateball> Firefox for instance is not Qt
[14:57] <BluesKaj> appears to me like you have a mismash of apps from different desktops
[14:57] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane,^
[14:59] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: probably, but don't you? I mean it's very likely to have some "foreign" apps in the mix for anyone,  once you start customizing yr system adding software
[15:00] <bennypr0fane> bingo, Firefox doesn't do it the way I want it
[15:00] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, no i prefer a fairly consistent KDE content
[15:01] <BluesKaj> except for firefox
[15:02] <bennypr0fane> I would too, actually, but there are things I can't find a kde app for
[15:03] <bennypr0fane> but it's good to know that any qt app will fit in
[15:03] <rcw2> now for my other browser, can anyone tell me why firefox seems to make xorg use nearly half of my processing power, which is odd
[15:04] <bennypr0fane> and it'S kind of a bummer other apps won't fit in. there should be a way to make them, i.e. force them all to use the default window manager for these things. I hate it when my shortcuts are gone and I ahve to sift through a whole tree in search for stuff on the windows partition
[15:05] <bennypr0fane> ...using double clicks all the way!
[15:06] <BluesKaj> rcw2, how many tabs do you have open?
[15:07] <rcw2> well that time many
[15:07] <rcw2> 10+
[15:07] <rcw2> but chromium can do that
[15:09] <rcw2> and my firefox could once do that versions ago
[15:17] <BluesKaj> rcw2, probly depends on many things , but I suspect the flash content on many sites constantly loading ads etc is part of it.
[15:18] <rcw2> BluesKaj, yeah flash stuff seems to trigger it.
[15:20] <rcw2> but this is a new issue with the same processor
[15:36] <JuJuBee> Having trouble making bootable usb stick for 14.04.  Startup Disk Creator keeps giving me an error fault 5.  I used unetbootin and it seems to have created the usb, but it boots directly to grub>  prompt
[15:47] <rcw2> should sudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf. have that period at the end of 70debconf.
[15:47] <rcw2> at the end of 70debconf
[16:04] <BluesKaj> rcw2, no period
[16:06] <rcw2> hm, APT::Cache-Limit "100000000"; as only line in that file may have resolved the above issue
[16:07] <rcw2> what's a flash intensive page that doesn't require much streaming, so i can test it now
[17:54] <TheFakeazneD525> hmmm
[17:54] <TheFakeazneD525> something seems to crash rekonq
[17:54] <TheFakeazneD525> I suspect KJS... because otherwise it's stable
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> I cannot play DVDs
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> with anything
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried VLC, KMPlayer
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> I have libdvdcss2
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> I have kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> I still can't play DVDs
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> I'm running kubuntu 14.04
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> all updates installed
[19:45] <ovidiu-florin> no backports
[19:45] <ovidiu-florin> Please help
[20:00] <soee> ovidiu-florin: http://itsfoss.com/play-dvd-ubuntu-1310/ ?
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I have all those installed
[20:09] <soee> ovidiu-florin: but system see youd device ?
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> I open the DVD with VLC and VLC freezez
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> shows an image from the DVD movie and freezes
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> I have to kill -9 to stop it
[20:11] <ovidiu-florin> KMPlayer does not play any files from the DVD video DIR
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> soee: any other ideeas?
[20:21] <soee> ovidiu-florin: let me check if it works on my laptop
[20:21] <soee> never checked dvd tbh
[20:23] <soee> ovidiu-florin: works nice :) maybe try different dvd
[20:23] <soee> as this might be broken ?
[22:22] <Ruebe_> test
[23:57] <manchicken> Anybody ever set up L2TP over IPSec?
[23:58] <manchicken> With NM
[23:58] <manchicken> I have a shared secret, a gateway, a username, and a password.