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zsombinik90: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-dow-fix/+merge/21963705:53
dholbachgood morning06:54
justCarakasgood mornign dholbach07:03
dholbachhey justCarakas07:03
JoeyChanMorning guys,  my screenshot script seems deprecated, pls update me a new one  :)07:07
JoeyChanseems this command not work ?       adb shell mirscreencast -m /tmp/mir_socket -n107:08
dholbachJoeyChan, try asking ogra in #ubuntu-touch07:13
JoeyChanok  thx  :)07:14
dholbachI read in some changelog that he did something with mir screencasts, so he might know - or I'm misremembering07:14
dholbachbrb :)07:14
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nik90zsombi: hey, good morning. I am testing the alarm MP and will let you know how it goes.07:31
dholbachdpm, popey: do you think it'd make sense to go through the list of core apps bugs and mark some of them as bitesize? or is this something you're already doing?07:33
dpmdholbach, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize - but it wouldn't hurt going through them again07:34
dholbachok, makes sense :)07:35
dholbachdpm, maybe we can do this at the sprint next week?07:35
dpmsounds good :)07:35
dpmwe need to triage them too07:35
dholbachI just thought of this as I filed a couple of small bugs related to packaging which should be very easy to fix07:35
dpmI see quite a bit of Fix Committed ones that could be marked as Fix Released07:36
dholbachgreat07:36
dpmdholbach, do you happen to have written any scripts using bzrlib? I'm using it for generating the translations stats to check out the phone projects from LP. Works perfectly, but it asks me for my SSH key on every check out, which is a bit annoying if I want to put it in a cron job. Do you happen to know if it's possible to do anyonymous checkouts?07:43
dholbachdpm, I think if you don't do "bzr launchpad-login" you should be fine07:45
dholbachall rightie... moving over to the office now, I'll be there in a bit - dpm: if you want, I can call you on the phone - it's just a 10-15min walk to the office07:47
dpmdholbach, sure. Check this out: http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic07:48
dholbachNICE07:48
dholbachgreat work dpm!07:48
dholbachI'll call you in a few07:49
dholbachbrb07:49
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Chocolate Chip Day! :-D07:55
justCarakashmmm now I feel like one JamesTait08:00
JamesTaitjustCarakas, you feel like a chocolate chip?  Do you look like one too?  What's it like?08:09
justCarakasJamesTait: fantastic http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZUMoRYWhpcg/S-sHdKNYmDI/AAAAAAAAAAM/ivfVQrmT02c/s1600/cookie+man.jpg08:11
JamesTaitThe internet never disappoints. :-P08:12
justCarakasJamesTait: indeed :D08:12
ogra_JoeyChan, make sure to have the latest version of phablet-tools installed (either in utopic or from the phablet-team PPA)08:14
ogra_it has a fix for the screenshot tool08:14
JoeyChanogra_    oh really ?  what's the package name ?08:15
JoeyChanI mean the tool's name08:16
JoeyChan/usr/bin/phablet-screenshot ?   ogra_08:17
ogra_yes08:18
JoeyChanthx08:19
nik90popey: If you have time, do you mind testing https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-dow-fix/+merge/21963708:36
nik90popey: The reason I ask is that I have been getting some weird results...the first time I tested it it worked, but since then it keeps failing for me.08:37
nik90popey: I am not sure If I am installing the package properly on the device.08:37
nik90zsombi: ^08:40
nik90 ,,,08:40
popeynik90: a bit later, yes.08:41
nik90popey: thnx08:41
justCarakaspopey:  when can I listen to the newest ubuntu-uk podcast ?08:43
popeyjustCarakas: later this evening08:51
justCarakask thx08:52
dholbachdpm, I updated the .pot files of 3 of the apps08:58
dholbachelopio, around?08:59
dpmdholbach, ah, cool, which ones?08:59
dholbachdpm, sudoku, filemanager, terminal - I updated the bug and added MPs08:59
dpmI'm now trying to generate the one for reminers08:59
dholbachelopio, so regarding python3-thrift...09:00
zsombinik90: what kind of weird results you mean?09:00
dholbachelopio, yes, I guess I could change the evernoter-sdk-python3 source package to build a python3-thrift binary package09:00
dholbachelopio, I'll have a look at that in a bit09:00
rpadovanidpm, I took a fast look to reminders, there are some strings without the i18n.tr prefix, be careful09:00
nik90zsombi: the first time I tried it worked, but after that it doesn't...I tried reflashing phone and installing the package again to test it. But now I cannot get it to work at all.09:01
dholbachelopio, the only problem I'm seeing is that it's not from thrift upstream09:01
nik90zsombi: I installed the armhf deb package generated by jenkins09:01
zsombinik90: hehh?09:01
dholbachelopio, for getting this into the archive it's a blocker AFAICS09:01
dholbachelopio, also the version of the binary package might be a problem09:01
zsombinik90: weird...09:01
nik90zsombi: which is why it is weird :)09:01
nik90zsombi: that's why I have asked popey to test it later as well.09:01
dholbachelopio, currently evernote sdk python is at 1.21 upstream, so that'd be the version of the python3-thrift binary package too09:02
nik90zsombi: the thing is I cannot test this on my desktop since the EDS alarm status patch hasn't been backported to trusty unfortunately :/09:02
dholbachelopio, in case thrift upstream ever releases a python3 version and the version string is lower, users of the PPA might be in trouble09:02
zsombinik90: the change affects one-time alarms only, so it should not affect the rest at all.09:02
dholbachelopio, I'll summarise this in an email09:02
zsombinik90: use memory manager, th failure was teher too!09:03
zsombithere09:03
dpmdholbach, nice! http://pad.ubuntu.com/coreapps-pot-updates09:03
nik90zsombi: it doesnt affect the others..I was only testing the single type alarms09:03
zsombinik90: on desktop I mean09:03
dpmrpadovani, thanks for the heads up, will look at it09:03
nik90zsombi: ok. I will remove EDS temporarilly to use the memory manager09:03
zsombinik90: simply set ALARM_MANAGER=memory and run the app on desktop09:03
zsombinik90: don't need to remove it, just run with the env var above set09:04
dholbachelopio, another option would be to tear the python3 thrift bits out of of the everynote-sdk-python3 source, add a bit of build system and packaging and have them in its own source package with a deliberately low version number (like 0.0.0), so we guarantee updates will work09:04
dholbachelopio, that's a bit more work though09:04
dholbachdpm, music-app seems to have vthompson already on the case (fix commited)09:05
dpmyep09:05
dpmand calendar does not need an update09:05
dpmjust built the .pot now09:05
dholbachdpm, calc the same (gang65)09:05
dholbachdpm, can you check if another .pot file is in the po directory?09:05
dholbachdpm, that happened to me for filemanager09:06
dpmdholbach, at some point the apps were named from ubuntu-*-app to com.ubuntu.*, which affected the .pot file09:06
dpmdholbach, the calc MP needs fixing, but in any case it does not need an update, I've locally built the pot to check: http://pad.ubuntu.com/coreapps-pot-updates09:07
dpmso I'm guessing the filemanager .pot file had not been updated since then. In that case, a bzr rename might be the best thing to do09:07
nik90zsombi: I just did...The MP works to an extent. The first time I create an alarm for Monday it saves it to today (thur). I edit and try again, and then it works.09:10
nik90zsombi: can you test with the clock app and see if it works09:11
zsombinik90: do you set the dayOfWeek explicitly? If the dayOfWeek is not changed from AutoDetect, then it will save it to the current day09:12
nik90zsombi: yeah I set it explicity to some other day..but the first time it still saves to today.09:13
dholbachdpm, ok09:13
dpmrpadovani, at a glance, do you know which messages from reminders were missing translation?09:18
dholbachdpm, done09:18
zsombinik90: when I try to save an alarm @ Monday 12:00 AP, I get error code 209:21
zsombinik90: which means the date is wrong...09:22
nik90zsombi: yeah. While saving the alarm, I use the date object which initiates with today's date and time. The time is then modified as set by the user. And then the daysOftheWeek is set09:23
zsombinik90:still09:24
rpadovanidpm, mhh nope, I'm not able to check now, sorry09:25
zsombinik90: I do the same in the test cases, and passes there...09:25
nik90zsombi: hmm, I will check the variable outputs just before the alarm is saved by the API.09:26
nik90zsombi: okay so just before saving an alarm for 12:00 AM Mon, the alarm.date = Thu May 15 00:00:00 2014 GMT+0200, alarm.daysoftheweek = 12809:30
zsombiok, good09:30
nik90zsombi: but yet I get the alarm error code 209:31
zsombisame here, in the checkOneTime()09:31
zsombinik90: it does not adjust the date, that's why... for some reason it sees that Thursday is in the daysOfWeek...09:31
zsombinik90: actually is! 128 is AutoDetect! So the app doesn't have the Monday set at all!09:33
zsombinik90: there's something wron in the app then09:35
nik90zsombi: yeah09:35
nik90zsombi: Should I set the alarm.date before setting the alarm.daysoftheweek or after?09:39
dpmdholbach, awesome. Would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1317683-update-template/+merge/219669 ?09:40
nik90zsombi: I outputted the value of dayoftheweek whenever it changes. And it has the correct value right until I set the alarm.date. After that it changes to 12809:40
zsombinik90: now that you are saying, the setDate turns the dayOfWeek to AutoDetect :/09:40
zsombinik90: perhaps we should remove that09:41
zsombinik90: it only does for OneTime alarms09:41
nik90zsombi: yup09:41
zsombinik90: the doc doesn't say anything about that, so I will simply cut that off09:42
nik90zsombi: so I guess you need to only modify your current MP to do that09:43
zsombinik90: yep09:44
dholbachdpm, sure09:44
zsombinik90: just did, and tested, the text sais Next Alarm 12:00 AM, Alarm\n Once on Mon09:44
nik90zsombi: :-D09:44
zsombinik90: pushed an update09:49
dpmdholbach, awesome, thanks. I think now all required templates are up-to-date. I'll wait for Jenkins to do the auto-landing, then I'll update my stats page and we'll be ready for the call for translations09:50
dholbachcool :)09:50
nik90zsombi: will wait for jenkins to create a deb and then install it on my phone09:50
zsombithere's something wrong with Jenkins... it takes ages to update the diff...09:52
nik90charles: are we ready to get https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/hw-alarms-api/+merge/210592 merged?10:03
mihirpopey: ping !!10:50
mihirpopey: could you top aprrove this MR , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1280598/+merge/21827210:51
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mihirpopey:  thanks :)10:57
nik90t1mp, kalikiana_ : Would one of you be able to review https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-dow-fix/+merge/219637 today pls? The MP fixes a clock app regression which is causing AP tests to fail. It is important that this lands on the phone by tomorrow11:33
zsombinik90: not sure whether it will land tomorrow though...11:34
nik90zsombi: because it requires more fixes to go to the staging before pushing an update to the phone?11:35
bzoltan1hello appdevs, is there a specific reason not to set "on" the CLICK_MODE option inthe CMakeList.txt by default? It would make the apps work well with the cmake by default.11:35
bzoltan1popey: ^11:35
bzoltan1mhall119: ^^11:36
zsombinik90: we could grab it and have it separate from staging, the problem is the pace of landing :/11:36
nik90zsombi: ah..hmm..the thing is I have pending MP for the clock app which are almost 2-3 weeks old due to AP failures :/11:37
nik90zsombi: I will talk to sil2100 to see if this can be done on Monday at the least11:38
zsombinik90: we're trying our best. this bug has been noticed pretty late...11:38
nik90zsombi: true but the reason for that was due to the previous tabs regression in the SDK.11:38
nik90zsombi: but I understand. I can wait11:38
zsombinik90: yup... I see AP tests are again having hickups on the MR11:39
dholbachbzoltan1, do you think anyone on your team could help out over here? https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/4Ln2epxNBk511:55
bzoltan1dholbach: sure, I drag t1mp in ...he can help ^11:56
dholbachawesome11:56
t1mpdholbach: hi11:59
dholbachhey t1mp - I was just wondering who could help answer https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/4Ln2epxNBk512:00
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t1mpdholbach: where do I find the source for that project?12:03
t1mpdholbach: actually, I can guess what's wrong without the source, I'll comment now12:04
dholbacht1mp, great, thanks12:04
dholbachJoeyChan unfortunately is not on IRC right now and https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app does not look like he pushed his work to LP12:05
t1mpdholbach: ok. I wrote some suggestions on g+12:06
dholbachawesome, thanks!12:06
dholbachelopio, I likely won't have time to look into it today :/12:15
dpmt1mp, I noticed another header issue with Music on image #28: it seems like the app's screen is pulled to the top and appears behind the header12:19
dholbachdpm, I reached out to the chinese team about the translations12:20
* dpm hugs dholbach12:20
* dholbach hugs dpm back12:20
nik90dpm: if they are using a flickable in their page, they need to set clip to true to avoid that situation12:22
nik90t1mp: can you confirm if I am correct ^^12:22
dpmt1mp, and Reminders has the same issue: content appears below the header, blank toolbars appear too. Actually Reminders ends up pretty broken after the new header landing :/12:24
dpmmzanetti, ^12:25
mzanettiyes, it does12:25
mzanettiI enabled clipping in the Listview for now12:25
mzanettidpm: huh? shouldn't be broken12:26
dpmmzanetti, try to open a note - there is no header and the toolbar is blank, so you cannot go back12:26
mzanettit1mp: but while we're at it, I followed your mail to upgrade to the new headers and noticed that the icons show up not only in the header but also in the middle of the page12:26
mzanettido you think I did something wrong?12:26
t1mpdpm, nik90 is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/120109412:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1201094 in Ubuntu File Manager App "App content visible behind tab header" [High,Triaged]12:27
mzanettiI just turned on the new headers and wrapped the ToolbarItem's content in an Action {}12:27
t1mpmzanetti: you are not the first one to encounter that https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/4Ln2epxNBk512:27
dpmt1mp, well, it's the same effect, but that's an old bug12:27
t1mpdpm: it is still open for ubuntu-ui-toolkit12:28
nik90t1mp: that's the bug12:28
t1mpdpm, nik90 I think it should not happen. I have a meeting now but I'll look into it afterwards12:29
nik90t1mp: ok12:29
dpmthanks t1mp. When you're done with the meeting: any ideas about the blank toolbars in Reminders?12:30
dpmdo we need to set that deprecatedToolbar property or something like that until we do the proper migration?12:31
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mzanettit1mp: ah, another one: elideMode is not turned on on the title. it overlaps with the icons12:38
nik90mzanetti: that is fixed in the staging branch12:38
mzanettiah ok12:38
mzanettiperfect12:38
nik90mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/elide/+merge/21943712:38
mzanettijust tried the new header for the first time yesterday night12:38
mzanettiand noticed those two things12:38
nik90mzanetti: do you have the link to the qml file which causes the blank toolbar?12:39
nik90mzanetti: I like to take a look at why that happends12:39
mzanettiblank toolbar?12:39
nik90s/happends/happens12:39
nik90mzanetti: yeah the bug dpm was mentioning above12:39
nik90dpm> thanks t1mp. When you're done with the meeting: any ideas about the blank toolbars in Reminders?12:39
kalikiana_zsombi: nik90: I approved the alarm fix… we'll need to see if J passes it, though, as it fails all the time right now12:40
mzanettinik90: ah. didn't see that myself yet. but its in lp:reminders-app12:40
mzanettinik90: in src/app/qml/reminders.qml most likely12:40
nik90kalikiana_: ah thnx..I will keep an eye on the jenkins12:40
nik90mzanetti: thnx..will take a look12:40
mzanettinik90: that said, there might well be an issue with the reminders code. given that it does some fancy things to transform between phone and tablet12:41
nik90mzanetti: I thought you were using Ubuntu.Layouts, no?12:41
mzanettinik90: no. I probably should tho12:42
nik90mzanetti: ah ok..12:42
nik90dpm: I think I found the issue with the NotesPage toolbar :)12:54
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popeybfiller: there's a camera (269) and gallery (967) waiting in the click store - has AP been run on these clicks ?13:28
popey(on device)13:28
n4uahhello is anyone here?13:30
mhall119bzoltan1: what does that CMake option do?13:30
rpadovanidpm, mzanetti do we have meeting? I use yesterday event's link13:59
dpmrpadovani, sorry, I'll have to pass today too, I apologise :( . Feel free to run the meeting if you want, and we can have a chat tomorrow, where I should have more time14:00
mzanettirpadovani: do you want to hangout nevertheless?14:00
rpadovanimzanetti, as you wish, I have nothing to say you about reminder14:01
nik90mzanetti: mind if I join? I have some idea about the toolbars14:01
mzanettinik90: ofc I don't mind if you join.14:01
mzanettiok, lets do the meeting then14:01
rpadovaninik90, \o/ do you have link?14:02
nik90rpadovani: no I dont14:02
rpadovaninik90, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/ZGF2aWQucGxhbmVsbGFAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.4gsate3vsqlj03tqqnsqgbl8i814:02
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saiarcot895Hi, is it possible to disable building ddebs in sbuild? From PPA build logs, there is a line that seems to does this. (dh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build)14:06
bzoltanmhall119: enables click mode build by default14:19
t1mpmzanetti: thanks for checking the new header :)14:20
t1mpmzanetti: the lack of elide is fixed in an MR, just needs time to land14:20
t1mpmzanetti: could you report a bug for the tools showing in the middle of the page?14:20
mzanettit1mp: sure14:20
wellsb #ubuntu-touch14:21
t1mpmzanetti: thanks14:21
t1mpnik90 / dpm: was there another bug you mentioned while I was in the meeting? About a blank toolbar showing?14:21
nik90t1mp: yeah dpm was mentioning it, but during my run, I couldn't reproduce it.14:24
nik90t1mp: btw do we need to import "Ubuntu.Unity.Action 1.0 as UnityActions" in order to use the Actions?14:24
nik90I remember seeing it in some system apps14:24
t1mpnik90: that import is in MainView, so apps did not need to import it anyway14:25
t1mpnik90: maybe it was needed a long time ago, before we had Actions in uitk14:25
nik90t1mp: ah ok14:25
t1mpit was there for HUD support when uitk did not support hud yet.14:26
nik90I guess I need to ask the music-app devs to remove it14:26
t1mpand now, hud doesn't work anymore anyway. When we have time we will see if we can make the Ubuntu.Unity.Action dependency of UITK optional (only when HUD/unity is available)14:26
mzanettit1mp: here you go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/131986114:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1319861 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[new header/toolbar] Actions are painted in header AND in the middle of the page" [Undecided,New]14:27
popeyJamesTait: beuno: "Changes can not be accepted and published at this time. Please try again later."14:40
beunohm14:40
JamesTaito_O14:42
beunopopey, there was  rollout going on, try once more?14:42
popeybeuno: same14:42
beunopopey, digging14:43
popeyta14:43
t1mpmzanetti: thank you14:45
t1mpmzanetti: did you define your tools with tools: ToolbarActions { ... }, or did you have ToolbarActions { id: toolbarActions }; tools: toolbarActions?14:46
mzanettit1mp: hmm... don't remember. if that's import to know for you I can reproduce it14:47
mzanettit1mp: ah... not I get it... its the outer container14:47
mzanettit1mp: that one is with tools: ToolbarActions {}14:47
t1mpok14:48
t1mpthe ToolbarActions used to be re-parented to the toolbar, but not anymore. That's why it shows up in a "random" place now14:48
t1mpI just don't know why I never got that when testing14:48
nik90t1mp: so is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7468179/ correct?14:56
t1mpnik90: yes, looks good to me14:58
nik90t1mp: is there a plan to replace ToolbarItems with HeaderItems or similar?14:58
t1mpnik90: only I don't know what will happen to the popover pointer, since the button shown in the header is not that ToolbarButton but a new button created from the action14:58
t1mpnik90: there is a plan for a new header API, see https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1wUUKtPmRmwbUELC1BUB9l0VOAwS_zAPRSCqMopUxR1c/edit (work in progress)14:59
bfillerpopey: not sure, can you point me at the clicks and I'll run AP on them?14:59
popeybfiller: it's okay, I've done camera, will do gallery next14:59
bfillerpopey: I believe gallery will have a known failure that we are still working on15:00
popeyok15:00
bfillerpopey: this test is known to fail: gallery_app.tests.test_album_view.TestAlbumView.test_add_photo15:01
popeyok15:02
t1mpnik90: feel free to comment/suggest stuff in the header api doc, or to add to the requirements15:13
t1mpnik90: we want to make it perfect and not something we need to change again soon, so there are a lot of iterations. The plan is to finish it in Malta15:13
nik90t1mp: ooh that's close..yeah I will take a look today and tomorrow15:14
t1mpcool15:14
nik90t1mp: awesome you are giving us the capability the change the header style! woohoo!15:15
t1mpheh. That was in my proposal, I just finished discussing with zsombi and he didn't like that too much15:18
t1mpnik90: if you have good use cases for that, please add it to the requirements :)15:19
nik90t1mp: ah so zsombi is trying to constrain us.. :D .. will try to think of some compelling arguments15:20
t1mpnik90: yeah, and I try to be lazy^W^Wgive you freedom to implement your own stuff so we don't have to put every functionality in uitk ;)15:22
nik90t1mp: lol15:22
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popeybeuno: fixed?15:27
beunopopey, trying to, matiasb is following15:28
popeyok15:29
dpmt1mp, yeah, you can reproduce the blank toolbar by just running reminders on the image15:47
dpmit has no actions15:47
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t1mpdpm: what's the easiest way to get reminders-app on my phone?15:53
dpmt1mp, install it from the store? :-)15:53
sergiusenslol lol15:53
sergiusens:-)15:53
t1mpI don't see it15:54
* t1mp going through the list again15:54
sergiusenst1mp: use the 'search' :-)15:54
dpmt1mp, when you start the app, you'll be prompted to use an Evernote Sandbox account. You can create one in a couple of minutes at https://sandbox.evernote.com15:56
t1mpdpm: I created an evernote sandbox account but still reminders-app says No account available16:02
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matiasbpopey: hi, could you please try accepting changes again in devportal? trying to track the issue16:17
t1mpdpm: I am reading the reminders-app source code, and I noticed something,16:18
t1mpdpm: in reminders.qml, the Tabs are placed inside the PageStack, but they are never pushed on the PageStack16:18
popeymatiasb: one worked, one didnt16:19
t1mpdpm: there is an upcoming change in UITK that needs the Tabs to be pushed to the PageStack (for example in PageStack's onCompleted), or define the Tabs outside of the PageStack16:19
t1mpdpm: see https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/80-betterActive/+merge/21909316:19
matiasbpopey: ack16:19
popeycamera worked, sudoku didnt16:20
t1mpdpm: webbrowser app was doing something similar, see https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/webbrowser-app/fix-pagestack/+merge/219560 how it is fixed there16:20
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dpmmzanetti, ^^ (regarding t1mp's comment)16:26
dpmelopio, balloons, any ideas why this is failing? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1317683-update-template/+merge/21966916:29
t1mpdpm: I'm flashing a new image now, and I'll test again after that16:29
dpmcool, thanks t1mp16:31
elopiodpm: something looks wrong on autopilot.16:31
elopioI'll ask on their channel.16:31
dpmthanks elopio16:31
t1mprpadovani: hello17:14
t1mpmzanetti: what I said to dpm before about the Tabs in reminders not being pushed on the PageStack is incorrect. The code is there but I overlooked it. :)17:22
mzanettit1mp: ok :) sorry. I haven't had the time yet to look into the reminders issue17:27
t1mpmzanetti: I made some changes in UITK that would break your app if you don't push those Tabs on the PageStack17:30
t1mpmzanetti: and I missed the line of code where you do that :) should be fine17:30
t1mpmzanetti: although I cannot test it, because reminders-app always tells me to make an account even though I have one :s17:30
mzanettit1mp: for now you need an account on sandbox.evernote.com17:32
mzanettiwe hope to get approval from evernote to switch to production servers soon17:32
rpadovanit1mp, hello17:33
t1mpmzanetti: I created an account on sandbox.evernote.com and added in on my phone, but it appears that reminders-app doesn't see it17:34
mzanettit1mp: hmm... that shouldn't be... sounds like a bug then17:35
t1mprpadovani: hi. Sorry for bothering you, I wanted to ask you the same as I was asking dpm and mzanetti about. I thought there was something wrong with the reminders-app code, but I was mistaken and it is fine17:35
t1mprpadovani: except that I cannot use the app because it cannot see my account17:35
* mzanetti tries17:35
t1mpI got the confirmation email: "Successfully connected Evernote account to Evernote app on Ubuntu" (twice, I deleted the app, rebooted re-added, didn't work)17:36
rpadovanit1mp, np, I was afaik. I do a fresh install then I'll try, I ping you in ~15 minutes17:36
t1mprpadovani: ok17:37
t1mpthanks17:37
t1mprpadovani, mzanetti if you are feeling adventurous and want to try out the new header, set 'useDeprecatedToolbar' of your MainView to false :)17:38
mzanettit1mp: I'll try it with xbmcremote first17:39
rpadovanit1mp, yes, we discussed about it today, there are some issues but hope to fix soon :-)17:39
t1mpmzanetti: that looks like a cool app :) unfortunately I don't have an xbmc box to use it with17:40
mzanettit1mp: heh... if you have a TV and use it from time to time, get a raspberry pi and install openelec on it. its worth it17:41
mzanettialtough I use it 80% of the time as music player with tv turned off and controlling it though xbmcremote17:42
mzanettit1mp: hmm... seems I can reproduce the issue with the login now. I'm sure it was working a few days ago17:43
mzanettirpadovani: seems we have a problem D:17:45
rpadovanimzanetti, that's strange, isn't friday17:46
mzanetticlose enough17:46
rpadovaniany idea?17:46
mzanettinot yet... no...17:46
rpadovanimzanetti, on trusty desktop last revision works fine, so it's something about unicorn / online accounts17:50
mzanettirpadovani: yeah, I'm afraid so17:50
andrewrkhey I'm trying to copy a package to my PPA and I'm getting "source contains expired files". what's the deal with that?17:56
andrewrkah looks like launchpad deleted the files, so there's no way to get them17:59
mzanettirpadovani: accounts.count is and stays always 0. indicates an issue with the accounts plugin18:08
danielbeck_Hi. What should I use to develop apps: the ubuntu-sdk package  included in  Ubuntu 14.04 or the one from the SDK Release PPA (ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa)?18:34
rpadovanimzanetti, ok, will we do a patch or we waiting for settings guys?18:35
rpadovanidanielbeck_, if you are on 14.04 the one from PPA18:35
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nik90danielbeck_: the one from the PPA18:51
nik90danielbeck_: only if you are running the latest ubuntu devel release would you not require the PPA18:52
pikachuza_hey all18:53
pikachuza_i would like to know where i can find out more about the difference between lenses and scopes?18:53
pikachuza_All the lense examples are in python whilst the scopes are in c++18:53
pikachuza_I assume a lense is a "panel" like apps and scopes live in a lense18:53
pikachuza_is there a single language one can use to write both? Preferably not c++ :)18:54
danielbeck_nik90: There is only ubuntu-cordova-2.8 in the PPA. I read on a blog that ubuntu switched to  3.4 or at least wanted to do so. Is 2.8 the version I should use?18:56
nik90danielbeck_: that I am not sure about..18:57
* nik90 has no idea about the web apps progress18:57
danielbeck_nik90: ok, thanks18:57
popeymatiasb: beuno any update on when the store will be fixed?19:07
pikachuza_so can anyone let me know the difference between lenses and scopes?19:11
beunopopey, it seems to be intermittent19:21
beunoit's been handed off to james_w`19:22
james_w`it seems fine now19:22
james_w`popey: are you still getting problems?19:22
popeyyes19:23
popeyi tried again 15 mins ago just before I asked19:23
popeyand again19:23
james_w`popey: yeah, seems to be intermittent19:34
james_w`less frequent now than earlier19:34
james_w`if there's something you are trying to do then retrying might get you through19:34
popeyjames_w`: just tried 10 times in a row19:37
james_w`wow19:37
james_w`ok19:37
james_w`well19:37
james_w`we're not getting oopses for those19:37
james_w`so maybe you've found a second problem19:37
james_w`popey: what error are you getting if any?19:38
popeyChanges can not be accepted and published at this time. Please try again later.19:38
james_w`ok19:40
popeyjames_w`: just tried another one and it worked.19:40
james_w`ok19:41
popeygo back to my first one and it failed19:41
popeydifferent screens though, one was an initial approval, the failing one is an updated app19:41
popeyhttps://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/729/ worked19:41
popeyhttps://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/144/changerequest/ failed19:41
james_w`ah19:42
james_w`that's something specific to sudoko19:42
james_w`2014-05-15 16:18:40,282 - devportal.utilities - ERROR - Could not update upload [400]: com.ubuntu/sudoku/com.ubuntu.sudoku_1.1.194_all.click, Published ({u'path': [u'No such path.']})19:42
james_w`popey: so the updown server is out of date for the sudoku app, so we'll have to fix that up19:51
pikachuzais this channel meant to provide support for developers looking to write apps on Ubuntu? If not please let me know the right channel. thanks19:54
popeypikachuza: sure.19:58
pikachuzagreat. thanks popey19:59
popeyHow can I help?19:59
pikachuzanot sure if my last question came through or if it was anwsered. I got disconnected. I would like someone to point me in the direction of a page that explains the difference between lenses and scopes.20:00
pikachuzaAlso all the lense examples are in python and scopes in c++?20:00
pikachuzaCan one use a common language for both? My understanding is lenses contain scopes? thanks20:00
popeypikachuza: are you thinking desktop (unity 7) or phone (unity 8)?20:01
popeyBecause my answer will differ ☻20:01
pikachuzadesktop for now.20:01
pikachuzaI don't have a phone/tablet running unity 820:01
popeyMy understanding is that a lens presents the data from one or more scopes.20:04
popeySo you could have 3 scopes, flickr, facebook, G+, and a "photo lens" which pulls pictures from those three data sources - scopes.20:04
popeymhall119: ^ is that right? ☻20:05
mhall119so lenses and scopes used to be different things20:05
mhall119lenses were the dash sections (apps, music, files, etc) and scopes fed data into them20:05
mhall119but they've evolved now so that they are both scopes, just different kinds of scopes20:06
mhall119so you can have a full page that is just one scopes (such as Amazon in Unity 8) or an aggregating scope that searches multiple other scopes (like the current apps, music and video scopes on Unity 8)20:07
pikachuzaah thanks. mhall119 is that for Unity 7 & 8 or is Unity 7 still separate?20:07
mhall119the old lingo has stuck around though, mostly because "lens" is easier to type than "aggregating scope"20:07
pikachuzaok so I should look for aggregating scope in the docs.20:07
mhall119pikachuza: both, but more so for Unity 820:07
pikachuzaok but if i was going to start dev work I should probably just stick with aggregate scope20:08
pikachuza?20:08
pikachuzaI am aiming at the desktop initially but would like to future proof a bit :)20:08
mhall119pikachuza: I don't think they have different classes20:08
pikachuzamhall119  ok cool. Scopes only have c++ bindings at the moment too it seems. Is this correct?20:09
mhall119aggregate scopes are just an implementation of a scope that searches other scopes, rather than some other source of data20:09
mhall119pikachuza: yes, though go bindings are in the works20:09
popeywhen are you planning to release this?20:09
pikachuzamhall119 - that clears some things up.20:09
popeyif it's gonna take a while, I'd aim for unity 820:09
mhall119happy to help :)20:09
pikachuzapopey - i saw Jono's posting on g+ about the first 200 devs :) Inspired me to tackle this item on my todo list. Getting on the first 200 list isn't paramount but it provides an added incentive :)20:10
popeyIn that case you wanna go unity820:11
pikachuzamhall119 - that would be great.20:11
popeythe pioneers page is for phone/tablet/converged desktop apps20:11
pikachuzapopey can you dev for unit8 in 14.04?20:11
popeyYou certainly can!20:11
pikachuzacool20:11
popeyhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/ click get started ☻20:11
pikachuzawill investigate furhter.20:11
popey← on 14.04 here20:11
popeysuper!20:11
josepopey: have a min like to test an app works?20:11
popeysure thing!20:12
joseit's in the store, but I want to be 100% sure it works20:12
popeyircpuzzles?20:12
joseyeah20:12
popeyalready installed on my device :D20:12
pikachuzamhall119 - I need to brush up my c++ skills. Will be in contact. Doing some reading up now and will start the project on the weekend.20:12
joseyay! \o/20:12
josepopey: thanks for installing and testing :)20:12
popeyjose: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-05-15-211244.png20:12
popeyi haven't tested yet ☻20:12
josewell, I can say that's the page we expect at first :P20:13
popeyjose: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-05-15-211318.png20:13
mhall119pikachuza: the pioneers page lists people with Click packages in the new store, and while we are working hard to let developers publish scopes through that store I don't think it's supported yet20:14
josehow does the stats one look?20:14
josethat's the most important I would say20:14
pikachuzamhall119 so those are full apps then? Not scopes?20:14
mhall119pikachuza: currently only apps, yes20:14
mhall119which are far easier to write than scopes anyway :)20:15
pikachuzamhall119 mmm ok, thats better actually because then I can use html5/javascript. Is Java an option too?20:15
mhall119no java, not unless you package the entire JVM with your app20:15
pikachuzamhall119 I am a java dev and a reluctant javascript developers :)20:15
mhall119but HTML5/Javascript yes20:15
pikachuza:(20:15
pikachuzaok20:15
mhall119and QML/Javascript too, which is amazing to work with20:15
pikachuzayeah, javascript does grow on you20:16
pikachuza:)20:16
mhall119pikachuza: I can sympathize, I did Java dev for years and still mostly hate Javascript20:16
popeyjose: well, it worked.20:16
jose\o/20:16
mhall119javascript in QML is nicer because you don't get hit with all the DOM stuff20:16
popeyjose: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-05-15-211635.png20:16
josewoohoo!20:17
pikachuzamhall119 - its grows on you though like mildew on a dank troll  :)20:17
josewriting that webapp was quite simple and straightforward20:17
mhall119pikachuza: heh, well said20:17
mhall119pikachuza: have you written an Android app?20:17
pikachuzayeah, it does look much easier than scopes for me because of the c++ barrier but its a bit more work than a scope. Probably more than a weekend and I have an awesome scope idea20:18
pikachuzaWill need to work on the app idea a bit and it will take a little longer but i will probably go that route20:18
pikachuzabtw - is it possible for a developer to add an online account type?20:18
mhall119also in the works to be able to do that from your click package20:28
mhall119kenvandine: ^^ what's the ETA on being able to add online accounts from an app?20:28
kenvandinemhall119, i think you can now20:29
kenvandinemhall119, using the app-access api20:29
kenvandinewhich i've never used :)20:30
kenvandinemhall119, here's the merge from mardy for friends-app adding it20:33
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/friends-app/app-access2/+merge/21171720:33
kenvandineas an example20:33
mhall119kenvandine: I think he's asking about adding a new provider20:33
kenvandineoh20:34
kenvandinei see :)20:34
mhall119I could be wrong, but I think that's what he was going for20:34
kenvandinei didn't read the scrollback :)20:34
kenvandineas a click package, that hasn't landed... cwayne would know the status20:34
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james_w`popey: changes accepted on sudoku23:10
popeythanks james_w`23:10
james_w`thanks for reporting it23:10
popeynp23:10
dakerpopey: yo23:39
popeydaker: yo!23:39

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