[05:53] <zsombi> nik90: https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-dow-fix/+merge/219637
[06:54] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <justCarakas> good mornign dholbach
[07:03] <dholbach> hey justCarakas
[07:07] <JoeyChan> Morning guys,  my screenshot script seems deprecated, pls update me a new one  :)
[07:08] <JoeyChan> seems this command not work ?       adb shell mirscreencast -m /tmp/mir_socket -n1
[07:13] <dholbach> JoeyChan, try asking ogra in #ubuntu-touch
[07:14] <JoeyChan> ok  thx  :)
[07:14] <dholbach> I read in some changelog that he did something with mir screencasts, so he might know - or I'm misremembering
[07:14] <dholbach> brb :)
[07:31] <nik90> zsombi: hey, good morning. I am testing the alarm MP and will let you know how it goes.
[07:33] <dholbach> dpm, popey: do you think it'd make sense to go through the list of core apps bugs and mark some of them as bitesize? or is this something you're already doing?
[07:34] <dpm> dholbach, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize - but it wouldn't hurt going through them again
[07:35] <dholbach> ok, makes sense :)
[07:35] <dholbach> dpm, maybe we can do this at the sprint next week?
[07:35] <dpm> sounds good :)
[07:35] <dpm> we need to triage them too
[07:35] <dholbach> I just thought of this as I filed a couple of small bugs related to packaging which should be very easy to fix
[07:36] <dpm> I see quite a bit of Fix Committed ones that could be marked as Fix Released
[07:36] <dholbach> great
[07:43] <dpm> dholbach, do you happen to have written any scripts using bzrlib? I'm using it for generating the translations stats to check out the phone projects from LP. Works perfectly, but it asks me for my SSH key on every check out, which is a bit annoying if I want to put it in a cron job. Do you happen to know if it's possible to do anyonymous checkouts?
[07:45] <dholbach> dpm, I think if you don't do "bzr launchpad-login" you should be fine
[07:47] <dholbach> all rightie... moving over to the office now, I'll be there in a bit - dpm: if you want, I can call you on the phone - it's just a 10-15min walk to the office
[07:48] <dpm> dholbach, sure. Check this out: http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic
[07:48] <dholbach> NICE
[07:48] <dholbach> great work dpm!
[07:49] <dholbach> I'll call you in a few
[07:49] <dholbach> brb
[07:55] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Chip Day! :-D
[08:00] <justCarakas> hmmm now I feel like one JamesTait
[08:09] <JamesTait> justCarakas, you feel like a chocolate chip?  Do you look like one too?  What's it like?
[08:11] <justCarakas> JamesTait: fantastic http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZUMoRYWhpcg/S-sHdKNYmDI/AAAAAAAAAAM/ivfVQrmT02c/s1600/cookie+man.jpg
[08:12] <JamesTait> The internet never disappoints. :-P
[08:12] <justCarakas> JamesTait: indeed :D
[08:14] <ogra_> JoeyChan, make sure to have the latest version of phablet-tools installed (either in utopic or from the phablet-team PPA)
[08:14] <ogra_> it has a fix for the screenshot tool
[08:15] <JoeyChan> ogra_    oh really ?  what's the package name ?
[08:16] <JoeyChan> I mean the tool's name
[08:17] <JoeyChan> /usr/bin/phablet-screenshot ?   ogra_
[08:18] <ogra_> yes
[08:19] <JoeyChan> thx
[08:36] <nik90> popey: If you have time, do you mind testing https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-dow-fix/+merge/219637
[08:37] <nik90> popey: The reason I ask is that I have been getting some weird results...the first time I tested it it worked, but since then it keeps failing for me.
[08:37] <nik90> popey: I am not sure If I am installing the package properly on the device.
[08:40] <nik90> zsombi: ^
[08:40] <nik90>  ,,,
[08:41] <popey> nik90: a bit later, yes.
[08:41] <nik90> popey: thnx
[08:43] <justCarakas> popey:  when can I listen to the newest ubuntu-uk podcast ?
[08:51] <popey> justCarakas: later this evening
[08:52] <justCarakas> k thx
[08:58] <dholbach> dpm, I updated the .pot files of 3 of the apps
[08:59] <dholbach> elopio, around?
[08:59] <dpm> dholbach, ah, cool, which ones?
[08:59] <dholbach> dpm, sudoku, filemanager, terminal - I updated the bug and added MPs
[08:59] <dpm> I'm now trying to generate the one for reminers
[09:00] <dholbach> elopio, so regarding python3-thrift...
[09:00] <zsombi> nik90: what kind of weird results you mean?
[09:00] <dholbach> elopio, yes, I guess I could change the evernoter-sdk-python3 source package to build a python3-thrift binary package
[09:00] <dholbach> elopio, I'll have a look at that in a bit
[09:00] <rpadovani> dpm, I took a fast look to reminders, there are some strings without the i18n.tr prefix, be careful
[09:01] <nik90> zsombi: the first time I tried it worked, but after that it doesn't...I tried reflashing phone and installing the package again to test it. But now I cannot get it to work at all.
[09:01] <dholbach> elopio, the only problem I'm seeing is that it's not from thrift upstream
[09:01] <nik90> zsombi: I installed the armhf deb package generated by jenkins
[09:01] <zsombi> nik90: hehh?
[09:01] <dholbach> elopio, for getting this into the archive it's a blocker AFAICS
[09:01] <dholbach> elopio, also the version of the binary package might be a problem
[09:01] <zsombi> nik90: weird...
[09:01] <nik90> zsombi: which is why it is weird :)
[09:01] <nik90> zsombi: that's why I have asked popey to test it later as well.
[09:02] <dholbach> elopio, currently evernote sdk python is at 1.21 upstream, so that'd be the version of the python3-thrift binary package too
[09:02] <nik90> zsombi: the thing is I cannot test this on my desktop since the EDS alarm status patch hasn't been backported to trusty unfortunately :/
[09:02] <dholbach> elopio, in case thrift upstream ever releases a python3 version and the version string is lower, users of the PPA might be in trouble
[09:02] <zsombi> nik90: the change affects one-time alarms only, so it should not affect the rest at all.
[09:02] <dholbach> elopio, I'll summarise this in an email
[09:03] <zsombi> nik90: use memory manager, th failure was teher too!
[09:03] <zsombi> there
[09:03] <dpm> dholbach, nice! http://pad.ubuntu.com/coreapps-pot-updates
[09:03] <nik90> zsombi: it doesnt affect the others..I was only testing the single type alarms
[09:03] <zsombi> nik90: on desktop I mean
[09:03] <dpm> rpadovani, thanks for the heads up, will look at it
[09:03] <nik90> zsombi: ok. I will remove EDS temporarilly to use the memory manager
[09:03] <zsombi> nik90: simply set ALARM_MANAGER=memory and run the app on desktop
[09:04] <zsombi> nik90: don't need to remove it, just run with the env var above set
[09:04] <dholbach> elopio, another option would be to tear the python3 thrift bits out of of the everynote-sdk-python3 source, add a bit of build system and packaging and have them in its own source package with a deliberately low version number (like 0.0.0), so we guarantee updates will work
[09:04] <dholbach> elopio, that's a bit more work though
[09:05] <dholbach> dpm, music-app seems to have vthompson already on the case (fix commited)
[09:05] <dpm> yep
[09:05] <dpm> and calendar does not need an update
[09:05] <dpm> just built the .pot now
[09:05] <dholbach> dpm, calc the same (gang65)
[09:05] <dholbach> dpm, can you check if another .pot file is in the po directory?
[09:06] <dholbach> dpm, that happened to me for filemanager
[09:06] <dpm> dholbach, at some point the apps were named from ubuntu-*-app to com.ubuntu.*, which affected the .pot file
[09:07] <dpm> dholbach, the calc MP needs fixing, but in any case it does not need an update, I've locally built the pot to check: http://pad.ubuntu.com/coreapps-pot-updates
[09:07] <dpm> so I'm guessing the filemanager .pot file had not been updated since then. In that case, a bzr rename might be the best thing to do
[09:10] <nik90> zsombi: I just did...The MP works to an extent. The first time I create an alarm for Monday it saves it to today (thur). I edit and try again, and then it works.
[09:11] <nik90> zsombi: can you test with the clock app and see if it works
[09:12] <zsombi> nik90: do you set the dayOfWeek explicitly? If the dayOfWeek is not changed from AutoDetect, then it will save it to the current day
[09:13] <nik90> zsombi: yeah I set it explicity to some other day..but the first time it still saves to today.
[09:13] <dholbach> dpm, ok
[09:18] <dpm> rpadovani, at a glance, do you know which messages from reminders were missing translation?
[09:18] <dholbach> dpm, done
[09:21] <zsombi> nik90: when I try to save an alarm @ Monday 12:00 AP, I get error code 2
[09:22] <zsombi> nik90: which means the date is wrong...
[09:23] <nik90> zsombi: yeah. While saving the alarm, I use the date object which initiates with today's date and time. The time is then modified as set by the user. And then the daysOftheWeek is set
[09:24] <zsombi> nik90:still
[09:25] <rpadovani> dpm, mhh nope, I'm not able to check now, sorry
[09:25] <zsombi> nik90: I do the same in the test cases, and passes there...
[09:26] <nik90> zsombi: hmm, I will check the variable outputs just before the alarm is saved by the API.
[09:30] <nik90> zsombi: okay so just before saving an alarm for 12:00 AM Mon, the alarm.date = Thu May 15 00:00:00 2014 GMT+0200, alarm.daysoftheweek = 128
[09:30] <zsombi> ok, good
[09:31] <nik90> zsombi: but yet I get the alarm error code 2
[09:31] <zsombi> same here, in the checkOneTime()
[09:31] <zsombi> nik90: it does not adjust the date, that's why... for some reason it sees that Thursday is in the daysOfWeek...
[09:33] <zsombi> nik90: actually is! 128 is AutoDetect! So the app doesn't have the Monday set at all!
[09:35] <zsombi> nik90: there's something wron in the app then
[09:35] <nik90> zsombi: yeah
[09:39] <nik90> zsombi: Should I set the alarm.date before setting the alarm.daysoftheweek or after?
[09:40] <dpm> dholbach, awesome. Would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1317683-update-template/+merge/219669 ?
[09:40] <nik90> zsombi: I outputted the value of dayoftheweek whenever it changes. And it has the correct value right until I set the alarm.date. After that it changes to 128
[09:40] <zsombi> nik90: now that you are saying, the setDate turns the dayOfWeek to AutoDetect :/
[09:41] <zsombi> nik90: perhaps we should remove that
[09:41] <zsombi> nik90: it only does for OneTime alarms
[09:41] <nik90> zsombi: yup
[09:42] <zsombi> nik90: the doc doesn't say anything about that, so I will simply cut that off
[09:43] <nik90> zsombi: so I guess you need to only modify your current MP to do that
[09:44] <zsombi> nik90: yep
[09:44] <dholbach> dpm, sure
[09:44] <zsombi> nik90: just did, and tested, the text sais Next Alarm 12:00 AM, Alarm\n Once on Mon
[09:44] <nik90> zsombi: :-D
[09:49] <zsombi> nik90: pushed an update
[09:50] <dpm> dholbach, awesome, thanks. I think now all required templates are up-to-date. I'll wait for Jenkins to do the auto-landing, then I'll update my stats page and we'll be ready for the call for translations
[09:50] <dholbach> cool :)
[09:50] <nik90> zsombi: will wait for jenkins to create a deb and then install it on my phone
[09:52] <zsombi> there's something wrong with Jenkins... it takes ages to update the diff...
[10:03] <nik90> charles: are we ready to get https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/hw-alarms-api/+merge/210592 merged?
[10:50] <mihir> popey: ping !!
[10:51] <mihir> popey: could you top aprrove this MR , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1280598/+merge/218272
[10:57] <mihir> popey:  thanks :)
[11:33] <nik90> t1mp, kalikiana_ : Would one of you be able to review https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-dow-fix/+merge/219637 today pls? The MP fixes a clock app regression which is causing AP tests to fail. It is important that this lands on the phone by tomorrow
[11:34] <zsombi> nik90: not sure whether it will land tomorrow though...
[11:35] <nik90> zsombi: because it requires more fixes to go to the staging before pushing an update to the phone?
[11:35] <bzoltan1> hello appdevs, is there a specific reason not to set "on" the CLICK_MODE option inthe CMakeList.txt by default? It would make the apps work well with the cmake by default.
[11:35] <bzoltan1> popey: ^
[11:36] <bzoltan1> mhall119: ^^
[11:36] <zsombi> nik90: we could grab it and have it separate from staging, the problem is the pace of landing :/
[11:37] <nik90> zsombi: ah..hmm..the thing is I have pending MP for the clock app which are almost 2-3 weeks old due to AP failures :/
[11:38] <nik90> zsombi: I will talk to sil2100 to see if this can be done on Monday at the least
[11:38] <zsombi> nik90: we're trying our best. this bug has been noticed pretty late...
[11:38] <nik90> zsombi: true but the reason for that was due to the previous tabs regression in the SDK.
[11:38] <nik90> zsombi: but I understand. I can wait
[11:39] <zsombi> nik90: yup... I see AP tests are again having hickups on the MR
[11:55] <dholbach> bzoltan1, do you think anyone on your team could help out over here? https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/4Ln2epxNBk5
[11:56] <bzoltan1> dholbach: sure, I drag t1mp in ...he can help ^
[11:56] <dholbach> awesome
[11:59] <t1mp> dholbach: hi
[12:00] <dholbach> hey t1mp - I was just wondering who could help answer https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/4Ln2epxNBk5
[12:03] <t1mp> dholbach: where do I find the source for that project?
[12:04] <t1mp> dholbach: actually, I can guess what's wrong without the source, I'll comment now
[12:04] <dholbach> t1mp, great, thanks
[12:05] <dholbach> JoeyChan unfortunately is not on IRC right now and https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app does not look like he pushed his work to LP
[12:06] <t1mp> dholbach: ok. I wrote some suggestions on g+
[12:06] <dholbach> awesome, thanks!
[12:15] <dholbach> elopio, I likely won't have time to look into it today :/
[12:19] <dpm> t1mp, I noticed another header issue with Music on image #28: it seems like the app's screen is pulled to the top and appears behind the header
[12:20] <dholbach> dpm, I reached out to the chinese team about the translations
[12:20]  * dpm hugs dholbach
[12:20]  * dholbach hugs dpm back
[12:22] <nik90> dpm: if they are using a flickable in their page, they need to set clip to true to avoid that situation
[12:22] <nik90> t1mp: can you confirm if I am correct ^^
[12:24] <dpm> t1mp, and Reminders has the same issue: content appears below the header, blank toolbars appear too. Actually Reminders ends up pretty broken after the new header landing :/
[12:25] <dpm> mzanetti, ^
[12:25] <mzanetti> yes, it does
[12:25] <mzanetti> I enabled clipping in the Listview for now
[12:26] <mzanetti> dpm: huh? shouldn't be broken
[12:26] <dpm> mzanetti, try to open a note - there is no header and the toolbar is blank, so you cannot go back
[12:26] <mzanetti> t1mp: but while we're at it, I followed your mail to upgrade to the new headers and noticed that the icons show up not only in the header but also in the middle of the page
[12:26] <mzanetti> do you think I did something wrong?
[12:27] <t1mp> dpm, nik90 is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1201094
[12:27] <mzanetti> I just turned on the new headers and wrapped the ToolbarItem's content in an Action {}
[12:27] <t1mp> mzanetti: you are not the first one to encounter that https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/4Ln2epxNBk5
[12:27] <dpm> t1mp, well, it's the same effect, but that's an old bug
[12:28] <t1mp> dpm: it is still open for ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[12:28] <nik90> t1mp: that's the bug
[12:29] <t1mp> dpm, nik90 I think it should not happen. I have a meeting now but I'll look into it afterwards
[12:29] <nik90> t1mp: ok
[12:30] <dpm> thanks t1mp. When you're done with the meeting: any ideas about the blank toolbars in Reminders?
[12:31] <dpm> do we need to set that deprecatedToolbar property or something like that until we do the proper migration?
[12:38] <mzanetti> t1mp: ah, another one: elideMode is not turned on on the title. it overlaps with the icons
[12:38] <nik90> mzanetti: that is fixed in the staging branch
[12:38] <mzanetti> ah ok
[12:38] <mzanetti> perfect
[12:38] <nik90> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/elide/+merge/219437
[12:38] <mzanetti> just tried the new header for the first time yesterday night
[12:38] <mzanetti> and noticed those two things
[12:39] <nik90> mzanetti: do you have the link to the qml file which causes the blank toolbar?
[12:39] <nik90> mzanetti: I like to take a look at why that happends
[12:39] <mzanetti> blank toolbar?
[12:39] <nik90> s/happends/happens
[12:39] <nik90> mzanetti: yeah the bug dpm was mentioning above
[12:39] <nik90> dpm> thanks t1mp. When you're done with the meeting: any ideas about the blank toolbars in Reminders?
[12:40] <kalikiana_> zsombi: nik90: I approved the alarm fix… we'll need to see if J passes it, though, as it fails all the time right now
[12:40] <mzanetti> nik90: ah. didn't see that myself yet. but its in lp:reminders-app
[12:40] <mzanetti> nik90: in src/app/qml/reminders.qml most likely
[12:40] <nik90> kalikiana_: ah thnx..I will keep an eye on the jenkins
[12:40] <nik90> mzanetti: thnx..will take a look
[12:41] <mzanetti> nik90: that said, there might well be an issue with the reminders code. given that it does some fancy things to transform between phone and tablet
[12:41] <nik90> mzanetti: I thought you were using Ubuntu.Layouts, no?
[12:42] <mzanetti> nik90: no. I probably should tho
[12:42] <nik90> mzanetti: ah ok..
[12:54] <nik90> dpm: I think I found the issue with the NotesPage toolbar :)
[13:28] <popey> bfiller: there's a camera (269) and gallery (967) waiting in the click store - has AP been run on these clicks ?
[13:28] <popey> (on device)
[13:30] <n4uah> hello is anyone here?
[13:30] <mhall119> bzoltan1: what does that CMake option do?
[13:59] <rpadovani> dpm, mzanetti do we have meeting? I use yesterday event's link
[14:00] <dpm> rpadovani, sorry, I'll have to pass today too, I apologise :( . Feel free to run the meeting if you want, and we can have a chat tomorrow, where I should have more time
[14:00] <mzanetti> rpadovani: do you want to hangout nevertheless?
[14:01] <rpadovani> mzanetti, as you wish, I have nothing to say you about reminder
[14:01] <nik90> mzanetti: mind if I join? I have some idea about the toolbars
[14:01] <mzanetti> nik90: ofc I don't mind if you join.
[14:01] <mzanetti> ok, lets do the meeting then
[14:02] <rpadovani> nik90, \o/ do you have link?
[14:02] <nik90> rpadovani: no I dont
[14:02] <rpadovani> nik90, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/ZGF2aWQucGxhbmVsbGFAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.4gsate3vsqlj03tqqnsqgbl8i8
[14:06] <saiarcot895> Hi, is it possible to disable building ddebs in sbuild? From PPA build logs, there is a line that seems to does this. (dh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build)
[14:19] <bzoltan> mhall119: enables click mode build by default
[14:20] <t1mp> mzanetti: thanks for checking the new header :)
[14:20] <t1mp> mzanetti: the lack of elide is fixed in an MR, just needs time to land
[14:20] <t1mp> mzanetti: could you report a bug for the tools showing in the middle of the page?
[14:20] <mzanetti> t1mp: sure
[14:21] <wellsb>  #ubuntu-touch
[14:21] <t1mp> mzanetti: thanks
[14:21] <t1mp> nik90 / dpm: was there another bug you mentioned while I was in the meeting? About a blank toolbar showing?
[14:24] <nik90> t1mp: yeah dpm was mentioning it, but during my run, I couldn't reproduce it.
[14:24] <nik90> t1mp: btw do we need to import "Ubuntu.Unity.Action 1.0 as UnityActions" in order to use the Actions?
[14:24] <nik90> I remember seeing it in some system apps
[14:25] <t1mp> nik90: that import is in MainView, so apps did not need to import it anyway
[14:25] <t1mp> nik90: maybe it was needed a long time ago, before we had Actions in uitk
[14:25] <nik90> t1mp: ah ok
[14:26] <t1mp> it was there for HUD support when uitk did not support hud yet.
[14:26] <nik90> I guess I need to ask the music-app devs to remove it
[14:26] <t1mp> and now, hud doesn't work anymore anyway. When we have time we will see if we can make the Ubuntu.Unity.Action dependency of UITK optional (only when HUD/unity is available)
[14:27] <mzanetti> t1mp: here you go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1319861
[14:40] <popey> JamesTait: beuno: "Changes can not be accepted and published at this time. Please try again later."
[14:40] <beuno> hm
[14:42] <JamesTait> o_O
[14:42] <beuno> popey, there was  rollout going on, try once more?
[14:42] <popey> beuno: same
[14:43] <beuno> popey, digging
[14:43] <popey> ta
[14:45] <t1mp> mzanetti: thank you
[14:46] <t1mp> mzanetti: did you define your tools with tools: ToolbarActions { ... }, or did you have ToolbarActions { id: toolbarActions }; tools: toolbarActions?
[14:47] <mzanetti> t1mp: hmm... don't remember. if that's import to know for you I can reproduce it
[14:47] <mzanetti> t1mp: ah... not I get it... its the outer container
[14:47] <mzanetti> t1mp: that one is with tools: ToolbarActions {}
[14:48] <t1mp> ok
[14:48] <t1mp> the ToolbarActions used to be re-parented to the toolbar, but not anymore. That's why it shows up in a "random" place now
[14:48] <t1mp> I just don't know why I never got that when testing
[14:56] <nik90> t1mp: so is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7468179/ correct?
[14:58] <t1mp> nik90: yes, looks good to me
[14:58] <nik90> t1mp: is there a plan to replace ToolbarItems with HeaderItems or similar?
[14:58] <t1mp> nik90: only I don't know what will happen to the popover pointer, since the button shown in the header is not that ToolbarButton but a new button created from the action
[14:59] <t1mp> nik90: there is a plan for a new header API, see https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1wUUKtPmRmwbUELC1BUB9l0VOAwS_zAPRSCqMopUxR1c/edit (work in progress)
[14:59] <bfiller> popey: not sure, can you point me at the clicks and I'll run AP on them?
[14:59] <popey> bfiller: it's okay, I've done camera, will do gallery next
[15:00] <bfiller> popey: I believe gallery will have a known failure that we are still working on
[15:00] <popey> ok
[15:01] <bfiller> popey: this test is known to fail: gallery_app.tests.test_album_view.TestAlbumView.test_add_photo
[15:02] <popey> ok
[15:13] <t1mp> nik90: feel free to comment/suggest stuff in the header api doc, or to add to the requirements
[15:13] <t1mp> nik90: we want to make it perfect and not something we need to change again soon, so there are a lot of iterations. The plan is to finish it in Malta
[15:14] <nik90> t1mp: ooh that's close..yeah I will take a look today and tomorrow
[15:14] <t1mp> cool
[15:15] <nik90> t1mp: awesome you are giving us the capability the change the header style! woohoo!
[15:18] <t1mp> heh. That was in my proposal, I just finished discussing with zsombi and he didn't like that too much
[15:19] <t1mp> nik90: if you have good use cases for that, please add it to the requirements :)
[15:20] <nik90> t1mp: ah so zsombi is trying to constrain us.. :D .. will try to think of some compelling arguments
[15:22] <t1mp> nik90: yeah, and I try to be lazy^W^Wgive you freedom to implement your own stuff so we don't have to put every functionality in uitk ;)
[15:22] <nik90> t1mp: lol
[15:27] <popey> beuno: fixed?
[15:28] <beuno> popey, trying to, matiasb is following
[15:29] <popey> ok
[15:47] <dpm> t1mp, yeah, you can reproduce the blank toolbar by just running reminders on the image
[15:47] <dpm> it has no actions
[15:53] <t1mp> dpm: what's the easiest way to get reminders-app on my phone?
[15:53] <dpm> t1mp, install it from the store? :-)
[15:53] <sergiusens> lol lol
[15:53] <sergiusens> :-)
[15:54] <t1mp> I don't see it
[15:54]  * t1mp going through the list again
[15:54] <sergiusens> t1mp: use the 'search' :-)
[15:56] <dpm> t1mp, when you start the app, you'll be prompted to use an Evernote Sandbox account. You can create one in a couple of minutes at https://sandbox.evernote.com
[16:02] <t1mp> dpm: I created an evernote sandbox account but still reminders-app says No account available
[16:17] <matiasb> popey: hi, could you please try accepting changes again in devportal? trying to track the issue
[16:18] <t1mp> dpm: I am reading the reminders-app source code, and I noticed something,
[16:18] <t1mp> dpm: in reminders.qml, the Tabs are placed inside the PageStack, but they are never pushed on the PageStack
[16:19] <popey> matiasb: one worked, one didnt
[16:19] <t1mp> dpm: there is an upcoming change in UITK that needs the Tabs to be pushed to the PageStack (for example in PageStack's onCompleted), or define the Tabs outside of the PageStack
[16:19] <t1mp> dpm: see https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/80-betterActive/+merge/219093
[16:19] <matiasb> popey: ack
[16:20] <popey> camera worked, sudoku didnt
[16:20] <t1mp> dpm: webbrowser app was doing something similar, see https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/webbrowser-app/fix-pagestack/+merge/219560 how it is fixed there
[16:26] <dpm> mzanetti, ^^ (regarding t1mp's comment)
[16:29] <dpm> elopio, balloons, any ideas why this is failing? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1317683-update-template/+merge/219669
[16:29] <t1mp> dpm: I'm flashing a new image now, and I'll test again after that
[16:31] <dpm> cool, thanks t1mp
[16:31] <elopio> dpm: something looks wrong on autopilot.
[16:31] <elopio> I'll ask on their channel.
[16:31] <dpm> thanks elopio
[17:14] <t1mp> rpadovani: hello
[17:22] <t1mp> mzanetti: what I said to dpm before about the Tabs in reminders not being pushed on the PageStack is incorrect. The code is there but I overlooked it. :)
[17:27] <mzanetti> t1mp: ok :) sorry. I haven't had the time yet to look into the reminders issue
[17:30] <t1mp> mzanetti: I made some changes in UITK that would break your app if you don't push those Tabs on the PageStack
[17:30] <t1mp> mzanetti: and I missed the line of code where you do that :) should be fine
[17:30] <t1mp> mzanetti: although I cannot test it, because reminders-app always tells me to make an account even though I have one :s
[17:32] <mzanetti> t1mp: for now you need an account on sandbox.evernote.com
[17:32] <mzanetti> we hope to get approval from evernote to switch to production servers soon
[17:33] <rpadovani> t1mp, hello
[17:34] <t1mp> mzanetti: I created an account on sandbox.evernote.com and added in on my phone, but it appears that reminders-app doesn't see it
[17:35] <mzanetti> t1mp: hmm... that shouldn't be... sounds like a bug then
[17:35] <t1mp> rpadovani: hi. Sorry for bothering you, I wanted to ask you the same as I was asking dpm and mzanetti about. I thought there was something wrong with the reminders-app code, but I was mistaken and it is fine
[17:35] <t1mp> rpadovani: except that I cannot use the app because it cannot see my account
[17:35]  * mzanetti tries
[17:36] <t1mp> I got the confirmation email: "Successfully connected Evernote account to Evernote app on Ubuntu" (twice, I deleted the app, rebooted re-added, didn't work)
[17:36] <rpadovani> t1mp, np, I was afaik. I do a fresh install then I'll try, I ping you in ~15 minutes
[17:37] <t1mp> rpadovani: ok
[17:37] <t1mp> thanks
[17:38] <t1mp> rpadovani, mzanetti if you are feeling adventurous and want to try out the new header, set 'useDeprecatedToolbar' of your MainView to false :)
[17:39] <mzanetti> t1mp: I'll try it with xbmcremote first
[17:39] <rpadovani> t1mp, yes, we discussed about it today, there are some issues but hope to fix soon :-)
[17:40] <t1mp> mzanetti: that looks like a cool app :) unfortunately I don't have an xbmc box to use it with
[17:41] <mzanetti> t1mp: heh... if you have a TV and use it from time to time, get a raspberry pi and install openelec on it. its worth it
[17:42] <mzanetti> altough I use it 80% of the time as music player with tv turned off and controlling it though xbmcremote
[17:43] <mzanetti> t1mp: hmm... seems I can reproduce the issue with the login now. I'm sure it was working a few days ago
[17:45] <mzanetti> rpadovani: seems we have a problem D:
[17:46] <rpadovani> mzanetti, that's strange, isn't friday
[17:46] <mzanetti> close enough
[17:46] <rpadovani> any idea?
[17:46] <mzanetti> not yet... no...
[17:50] <rpadovani> mzanetti, on trusty desktop last revision works fine, so it's something about unicorn / online accounts
[17:50] <mzanetti> rpadovani: yeah, I'm afraid so
[17:56] <andrewrk> hey I'm trying to copy a package to my PPA and I'm getting "source contains expired files". what's the deal with that?
[17:59] <andrewrk> ah looks like launchpad deleted the files, so there's no way to get them
[18:08] <mzanetti> rpadovani: accounts.count is and stays always 0. indicates an issue with the accounts plugin
[18:34] <danielbeck_> Hi. What should I use to develop apps: the ubuntu-sdk package  included in  Ubuntu 14.04 or the one from the SDK Release PPA (ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa)?
[18:35] <rpadovani> mzanetti, ok, will we do a patch or we waiting for settings guys?
[18:35] <rpadovani> danielbeck_, if you are on 14.04 the one from PPA
[18:51] <nik90> danielbeck_: the one from the PPA
[18:52] <nik90> danielbeck_: only if you are running the latest ubuntu devel release would you not require the PPA
[18:53] <pikachuza_> hey all
[18:53] <pikachuza_> i would like to know where i can find out more about the difference between lenses and scopes?
[18:53] <pikachuza_> All the lense examples are in python whilst the scopes are in c++
[18:53] <pikachuza_> I assume a lense is a "panel" like apps and scopes live in a lense
[18:54] <pikachuza_> is there a single language one can use to write both? Preferably not c++ :)
[18:56] <danielbeck_> nik90: There is only ubuntu-cordova-2.8 in the PPA. I read on a blog that ubuntu switched to  3.4 or at least wanted to do so. Is 2.8 the version I should use?
[18:57] <nik90> danielbeck_: that I am not sure about..
[18:57]  * nik90 has no idea about the web apps progress
[18:57] <danielbeck_> nik90: ok, thanks
[19:07] <popey> matiasb: beuno any update on when the store will be fixed?
[19:11] <pikachuza_> so can anyone let me know the difference between lenses and scopes?
[19:21] <beuno> popey, it seems to be intermittent
[19:22] <beuno> it's been handed off to james_w`
[19:22] <james_w`> it seems fine now
[19:22] <james_w`> popey: are you still getting problems?
[19:23] <popey> yes
[19:23] <popey> i tried again 15 mins ago just before I asked
[19:23] <popey> and again
[19:34] <james_w`> popey: yeah, seems to be intermittent
[19:34] <james_w`> less frequent now than earlier
[19:34] <james_w`> if there's something you are trying to do then retrying might get you through
[19:37] <popey> james_w`: just tried 10 times in a row
[19:37] <james_w`> wow
[19:37] <james_w`> ok
[19:37] <james_w`> well
[19:37] <james_w`> we're not getting oopses for those
[19:37] <james_w`> so maybe you've found a second problem
[19:38] <james_w`> popey: what error are you getting if any?
[19:38] <popey> Changes can not be accepted and published at this time. Please try again later.
[19:40] <james_w`> ok
[19:40] <popey> james_w`: just tried another one and it worked.
[19:41] <james_w`> ok
[19:41] <popey> go back to my first one and it failed
[19:41] <popey> different screens though, one was an initial approval, the failing one is an updated app
[19:41] <popey> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/729/ worked
[19:41] <popey> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/144/changerequest/ failed
[19:42] <james_w`> ah
[19:42] <james_w`> that's something specific to sudoko
[19:42] <james_w`> 2014-05-15 16:18:40,282 - devportal.utilities - ERROR - Could not update upload [400]: com.ubuntu/sudoku/com.ubuntu.sudoku_1.1.194_all.click, Published ({u'path': [u'No such path.']})
[19:51] <james_w`> popey: so the updown server is out of date for the sudoku app, so we'll have to fix that up
[19:54] <pikachuza> is this channel meant to provide support for developers looking to write apps on Ubuntu? If not please let me know the right channel. thanks
[19:58] <popey> pikachuza: sure.
[19:59] <pikachuza> great. thanks popey
[19:59] <popey> How can I help?
[20:00] <pikachuza> not sure if my last question came through or if it was anwsered. I got disconnected. I would like someone to point me in the direction of a page that explains the difference between lenses and scopes.
[20:00] <pikachuza> Also all the lense examples are in python and scopes in c++?
[20:00] <pikachuza> Can one use a common language for both? My understanding is lenses contain scopes? thanks
[20:01] <popey> pikachuza: are you thinking desktop (unity 7) or phone (unity 8)?
[20:01] <popey> Because my answer will differ ☻
[20:01] <pikachuza> desktop for now.
[20:01] <pikachuza> I don't have a phone/tablet running unity 8
[20:04] <popey> My understanding is that a lens presents the data from one or more scopes.
[20:04] <popey> So you could have 3 scopes, flickr, facebook, G+, and a "photo lens" which pulls pictures from those three data sources - scopes.
[20:05] <popey> mhall119: ^ is that right? ☻
[20:05] <mhall119> so lenses and scopes used to be different things
[20:05] <mhall119> lenses were the dash sections (apps, music, files, etc) and scopes fed data into them
[20:06] <mhall119> but they've evolved now so that they are both scopes, just different kinds of scopes
[20:07] <mhall119> so you can have a full page that is just one scopes (such as Amazon in Unity 8) or an aggregating scope that searches multiple other scopes (like the current apps, music and video scopes on Unity 8)
[20:07] <pikachuza> ah thanks. mhall119 is that for Unity 7 & 8 or is Unity 7 still separate?
[20:07] <mhall119> the old lingo has stuck around though, mostly because "lens" is easier to type than "aggregating scope"
[20:07] <pikachuza> ok so I should look for aggregating scope in the docs.
[20:07] <mhall119> pikachuza: both, but more so for Unity 8
[20:08] <pikachuza> ok but if i was going to start dev work I should probably just stick with aggregate scope
[20:08] <pikachuza> ?
[20:08] <pikachuza> I am aiming at the desktop initially but would like to future proof a bit :)
[20:08] <mhall119> pikachuza: I don't think they have different classes
[20:09] <pikachuza> mhall119  ok cool. Scopes only have c++ bindings at the moment too it seems. Is this correct?
[20:09] <mhall119> aggregate scopes are just an implementation of a scope that searches other scopes, rather than some other source of data
[20:09] <mhall119> pikachuza: yes, though go bindings are in the works
[20:09] <popey> when are you planning to release this?
[20:09] <pikachuza> mhall119 - that clears some things up.
[20:09] <popey> if it's gonna take a while, I'd aim for unity 8
[20:09] <mhall119> happy to help :)
[20:10] <pikachuza> popey - i saw Jono's posting on g+ about the first 200 devs :) Inspired me to tackle this item on my todo list. Getting on the first 200 list isn't paramount but it provides an added incentive :)
[20:11] <popey> In that case you wanna go unity8
[20:11] <pikachuza> mhall119 - that would be great.
[20:11] <popey> the pioneers page is for phone/tablet/converged desktop apps
[20:11] <pikachuza> popey can you dev for unit8 in 14.04?
[20:11] <popey> You certainly can!
[20:11] <pikachuza> cool
[20:11] <popey> http://developer.ubuntu.com/ click get started ☻
[20:11] <pikachuza> will investigate furhter.
[20:11] <popey> ← on 14.04 here
[20:11] <popey> super!
[20:11] <jose> popey: have a min like to test an app works?
[20:12] <popey> sure thing!
[20:12] <jose> it's in the store, but I want to be 100% sure it works
[20:12] <popey> ircpuzzles?
[20:12] <jose> yeah
[20:12] <popey> already installed on my device :D
[20:12] <pikachuza> mhall119 - I need to brush up my c++ skills. Will be in contact. Doing some reading up now and will start the project on the weekend.
[20:12] <jose> yay! \o/
[20:12] <jose> popey: thanks for installing and testing :)
[20:12] <popey> jose: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-05-15-211244.png
[20:12] <popey> i haven't tested yet ☻
[20:13] <jose> well, I can say that's the page we expect at first :P
[20:13] <popey> jose: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-05-15-211318.png
[20:14] <mhall119> pikachuza: the pioneers page lists people with Click packages in the new store, and while we are working hard to let developers publish scopes through that store I don't think it's supported yet
[20:14] <jose> how does the stats one look?
[20:14] <jose> that's the most important I would say
[20:14] <pikachuza> mhall119 so those are full apps then? Not scopes?
[20:14] <mhall119> pikachuza: currently only apps, yes
[20:15] <mhall119> which are far easier to write than scopes anyway :)
[20:15] <pikachuza> mhall119 mmm ok, thats better actually because then I can use html5/javascript. Is Java an option too?
[20:15] <mhall119> no java, not unless you package the entire JVM with your app
[20:15] <pikachuza> mhall119 I am a java dev and a reluctant javascript developers :)
[20:15] <mhall119> but HTML5/Javascript yes
[20:15] <pikachuza> :(
[20:15] <pikachuza> ok
[20:15] <mhall119> and QML/Javascript too, which is amazing to work with
[20:16] <pikachuza> yeah, javascript does grow on you
[20:16] <pikachuza> :)
[20:16] <mhall119> pikachuza: I can sympathize, I did Java dev for years and still mostly hate Javascript
[20:16] <popey> jose: well, it worked.
[20:16] <jose> \o/
[20:16] <mhall119> javascript in QML is nicer because you don't get hit with all the DOM stuff
[20:16] <popey> jose: http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-05-15-211635.png
[20:17] <jose> woohoo!
[20:17] <pikachuza> mhall119 - its grows on you though like mildew on a dank troll  :)
[20:17] <jose> writing that webapp was quite simple and straightforward
[20:17] <mhall119> pikachuza: heh, well said
[20:17] <mhall119> pikachuza: have you written an Android app?
[20:18] <pikachuza> yeah, it does look much easier than scopes for me because of the c++ barrier but its a bit more work than a scope. Probably more than a weekend and I have an awesome scope idea
[20:18] <pikachuza> Will need to work on the app idea a bit and it will take a little longer but i will probably go that route
[20:18] <pikachuza> btw - is it possible for a developer to add an online account type?
[20:28] <mhall119> also in the works to be able to do that from your click package
[20:28] <mhall119> kenvandine: ^^ what's the ETA on being able to add online accounts from an app?
[20:29] <kenvandine> mhall119, i think you can now
[20:29] <kenvandine> mhall119, using the app-access api
[20:30] <kenvandine> which i've never used :)
[20:33] <kenvandine> mhall119, here's the merge from mardy for friends-app adding it
[20:33] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/friends-app/app-access2/+merge/211717
[20:33] <kenvandine> as an example
[20:33] <mhall119> kenvandine: I think he's asking about adding a new provider
[20:34] <kenvandine> oh
[20:34] <kenvandine> i see :)
[20:34] <mhall119> I could be wrong, but I think that's what he was going for
[20:34] <kenvandine> i didn't read the scrollback :)
[20:34] <kenvandine> as a click package, that hasn't landed... cwayne would know the status
[23:10] <james_w`> popey: changes accepted on sudoku
[23:10] <popey> thanks james_w`
[23:10] <james_w`> thanks for reporting it
[23:10] <popey> np
[23:39] <daker> popey: yo
[23:39] <popey> daker: yo!