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| Laney | hallo | 08:02 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey seb128, what's up? | 08:06 |
| seb128 | we have some blue sky today! | 08:06 |
| didrocks | pfff, usual business in the "south" :p | 08:07 |
| seb128 | wait for those rainy clouds I just send | 08:07 |
| seb128 | they should be on time for your midday exercice :p | 08:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: I plan to leave for exercise in 40 minutes, ahah, too late! :) | 08:08 |
| seb128 | the forecast looks good for Lyon this week/w.e, nice for you | 08:09 |
| seb128 | not so much next week though | 08:09 |
| didrocks | yeah, but again, they will be wrong! :) | 08:10 |
| didrocks | at least, until I'm leaving for Malta | 08:10 |
| seb128 | haha | 08:10 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | and then, as usual, it will rain like cats and dogs just to go to the tramway for the airport trip | 08:11 |
| seb128 | yeah, right, let Julie under the rain and go to the sun | 08:11 |
| didrocks | yeah \o/ | 08:11 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:11 |
| didrocks | that's how you ensure that someone miss you :p | 08:11 |
| didrocks | (just for the weather of course) | 08:11 |
| seb128 | right, what else? ;-) | 08:12 |
| seb128 | "I married Didier to get good weather, nothing else" | 08:12 |
| didrocks | :) | 08:16 |
| Mirv | :) | 08:26 |
| xnox | seb128: i'd like to join Debian GNOME team =) i've sent an application about it on alioth. | 08:48 |
| seb128 | xnox, that seems like a good idea ;-) | 08:49 |
| seb128 | (not sure who approves members nowadays, I've not been really active in the team for a while) | 08:49 |
| Laney | why are you asking in *ubuntu*-desktop for that? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | you might want to check with them on #debian-gnome oftc | 08:49 |
| Mirv | seb128: I filed bug #1319711 for ubuntu-system-settings AP test that started failing yesterday | 08:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1319711 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "test_tz_list_initially_empty started failing in image #29" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1319711 | 08:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ | 08:54 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ^ | 08:54 |
| Laney | ok | 08:54 |
| xnox | seb128: well you are an admin, you can approve people =) | 08:56 |
| seb128 | xnox, right, except that I don't feel like I've been member of that team enough recently to take admin decision | 09:06 |
| seb128 | that's more a leftover status | 09:06 |
| seb128 | thanks for asking on #debian-gnome ;-) | 09:07 |
| Sweet5hark | So, sometimes after suspend on trusty I get a different looking lockscreen (with a gtkish prompt) and that one always claims my password to be wrong. Known issues? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | no | 09:09 |
| seb128 | is that similar to the < trusty lockscreen? (gnome-screensaver) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | did you check you keyboard layout in there? | 09:10 |
| Sweet5hark | Keyboard layout shouldnt be an issue, Im using US everywhere. | 09:15 |
| Sweet5hark | The thing has a gnome3ish top bar and says "Light DM" there. FWIW, it might be because I installed quite a few xubuntu packages which might have messed with that. | 09:16 |
| Sweet5hark | actually, the background is not my session wallpaper but something xubuntu-branded, so yeah. | 09:20 |
| Laney | you probably got light-locker | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, ok, I don't know about that one, but what Laney said | 09:26 |
| Laney | I guess it's supposed to accept your password though, so if you're inclined you might want to debug with xubuntu people | 09:26 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128, Laney: Indeed, I had that package (now removed). You make that sound like its an illness. Can I get vaccination? ;) | 09:31 |
| Sweet5hark | lets see if this helps in the next wakeups .... | 09:32 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, well, you might still want to report a bug to be nice to xubuntu | 09:32 |
| seb128 | let us know | 09:32 |
| Sweet5hark | lets see if it solves it ... | 09:32 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: (and I will have a hard time describing reproduction: I had a weird unity/xubuntu mix there and it only happened sometimes) | 09:33 |
| Laney | you sometimes got different lock screens? | 09:34 |
| Laney | that sounds ungood | 09:34 |
| Laney | http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/15/uk-forecast-enjoy-hottest-day-year-weekend | 09:43 |
| Laney | (H) | 09:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, they forecast 26°C here next week | 09:46 |
| Laney | haha | 09:47 |
| Laney | don't take this away from me! | 09:47 |
| seb128 | you can file a written request, it's going to be precessed in due course... ;-) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | meanwhile it's grey and windy again | 09:48 |
| seb128 | take your rain back! | 09:48 |
| * didrocks sees blue sky here | 09:49 | |
| Laney | la la la la | 09:49 |
| didrocks | failed to run before the dentist though due to this cu2d request | 09:49 |
| didrocks | so, I guess that will be post-dentist :p | 09:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, dentists? good luck! | 09:50 |
| seb128 | just checking? or anything to get fixed? | 09:50 |
| didrocks | thanks! just checking yeah, normally :) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | good | 09:51 |
| didrocks | I decided to not have to wait for 8 years before checking back this time :p | 09:51 |
| didrocks | only 2! | 09:51 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:51 |
| seb128 | Julie made you, right? ;-) | 09:51 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:51 |
| didrocks | (never had *any* issue in that space) | 09:51 |
| * didrocks touches woods | 09:51 | |
| seb128 | I had when I was a kid | 09:51 |
| didrocks | like a lot of people apparently | 09:52 |
| seb128 | I didn't for like 15 years now | 09:52 |
| didrocks | shouldn't be enjoyable :p | 09:52 |
| * seb128 touches wood as well | 09:52 | |
| ochosi | Sweet5hark: sounds also like you have lightdm-gtk-greeter (which is what xubuntu uses over unity-greeter) | 09:52 |
| Sweet5hark | ochosi: thanks, also removed now | 09:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, so, I got side tracked in doing slidedecks yesterday, but looking again to the unity8 iso | 10:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, if I use your script, is it going to use the ppa to build the iso? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, or asked different "how do you I get the patched upstart on the iso" | 10:06 |
| seb128 | upstream and unity8-desktop-session | 10:06 |
| Laney | yeah the script adds the ppa | 10:06 |
| Laney | see add_ppa in there | 10:06 |
| Laney | don't forget to use the new livecd-rootfs auto/config from the ppa on your host | 10:07 |
| seb128 | I installed that deb | 10:07 |
| Laney | nod | 10:07 |
| seb128 | ogra_, please avoid calling compiz cruft, it's still our main desktop and we have people doing good work on it ;-) | 10:27 |
| ogra_ | heh, ok | 10:27 |
| seb128 | no point to demotivate/dismiss good work | 10:27 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:27 |
| ogra_ | sorry :) | 10:28 |
| ogra_ | it serves me fine indeed :) | 10:28 |
| seb128 | no worry ;-) | 10:28 |
| seb128 | grrr | 10:33 |
| seb128 | chroot: failed to run command '/usr/bin/env': No such file or directory | 10:33 |
| seb128 | wth! | 10:33 |
| seb128 | bah, it works in /tmp, I wonder if there is something it doesn't like about my user directories or maybe ecryptfs | 10:38 |
| seb128 | well, at least I got it not erroring out | 10:38 |
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| rickspencer3 | good morning desktoppers | 11:05 |
| didrocks | hey rickspencer3! | 11:09 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, good "morning" (is 6am late enough to be qualified like that?) | 11:09 |
| rickspencer3 | bonjour didrocks | 11:09 |
| seb128 | oh, it's 7am | 11:09 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 11:10 |
| seb128 | good morning then ;-) | 11:10 |
| rickspencer3 | indeed, I slept in | 11:10 |
| didrocks | so late ;) | 11:10 |
| seb128 | lol | 11:10 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, seb128 for the year I lived in France, one of our friends teased me that I was like "the chickens" | 11:11 |
| didrocks | yeah, that's the right expression :) | 11:11 |
| seb128 | indeed | 11:12 |
| didrocks | and suit well to France FWIW :) | 11:12 |
| rickspencer3 | oh well | 11:13 |
| didrocks | ok, time for dentist! | 11:40 |
| * didrocks will continue reading juju doc while waiting | 11:41 | |
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| seb128 | didrocks, good luck | 11:51 |
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| didrocks | seb128: all went well :) | 12:49 |
| didrocks | radio + scaling (tartar removal) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | and that's it :) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | I would have never guessed that scaling can be used that way :) | 12:50 |
| seb128 | hehe | 12:54 |
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| mpt | kenvandine, I think custom ringtones and notification sounds would be a fine idea, but I don’t set the product requirements. ;-) | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | sure, it's not on any current list | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | mpt, but... users expect to be able to set custom ringtones :) | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | lets just make a list then :P | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | users also expect to set their own wallpaper ... | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | mpt, and rickspencer3 told me to make sure it got added :) | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | not that we would allow that one either ... | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, good point :) | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | (and we still have a system-settings option for the wallapaer stuff) | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | (which is a no-op) | 13:42 |
| kenvandine | true... it half works :) | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | greeter | 13:43 |
| ogra_ | indeed | 13:43 |
| ogra_ | i still happily use my custom pic on the greeter | 13:43 |
| marga | Hi! There are a bunch of files in /etc/X11/Xsession.d that modify the STARTUP variable, always adding to it without deleting the rest of the content. Recently, though 99upstart was introduced, which replaces STARTUP with "init --user" thus deleting any changes done to it by other scripts. | 14:01 |
| marga | Is this on purpose? It's breaking ssh-agent for me, but I suspect it probably breaks other things for other people. | 14:01 |
| marga | I use ssh-agent and not gnome-keyring daemon, it used to start because it gets added through 90x11-common_ssh-agent, but it doesn't start anymore now that 99upstart deletes it from the STARTUP variable. | 14:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, mpt, kenvandine, larsu, charles: settings meeting? | 14:03 |
| larsu | seb128: I'll join in a couple of minutes | 14:03 |
| seb128 | marga, xnox was working on the ssh agent issues I think | 14:04 |
| seb128 | check with him directly maybe | 14:04 |
| seb128 | he's probably the best to ask about that | 14:04 |
| marga | I saw some changes related to gnome-keyring | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | i didn't really have anything to discuss, cramming to finish something up before leaving for malta | 14:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok | 14:04 |
| xnox | marga: ssh-agent has a native upstart session job. | 14:04 |
| marga | xnox, you mean the openssh-client package? | 14:04 |
| xnox | marga: thus ssh-agent should be working correctly under upstart managed desktop user session. | 14:04 |
| xnox | marga: correct shipped in the openssh-client package. | 14:05 |
| marga | It's not working for me. It's possible that it's something related to local customizations. I'll investigate further. | 14:06 |
| seb128 | larsu, don't bother | 14:06 |
| xnox | marga: well, read /usr/share/upstart/sessions/ssh-agent.conf especially pre-start script. | 14:06 |
| marga | xnox, ok, thanks | 14:07 |
| xnox | marga: as there are a number of conditions that need to be satisfied for ssh-agent job to run on start-up. | 14:07 |
| xnox | marga: or, in the logged in session $ initctl --user status ssh-agent, should say start/running. | 14:07 |
| xnox | if not, something is not working correctly. | 14:07 |
| marga | xnox, I'm missing the upstart file | 14:08 |
| marga | I guess that's the root cause of the problem :) | 14:08 |
| xnox | marga: =))))) you can disable upstart managing the desktop session by commenting out your desktop session from /etc/upstart-xsessions | 14:09 |
| marga | xnox, what would I lose if I did that? | 14:09 |
| xnox | marga: and then it should all be "normal xinit/gnome-session" with no upstart managing the user session. | 14:09 |
| xnox | marga: we have converted _all_ flavours to use upstart sessions, and some packages started to assume that upstart is available in the desktop session. | 14:10 |
| xnox | marga: and thus some things may be missing dbus-activation files and/or xdg-autostart files. In that case those services will not be running. | 14:10 |
| marga | ok. Well, I'll make sure that the upstart file is where it should be, then. | 14:10 |
| xnox | marga: but i would consider that a serious / sru bug. As the intention was that in Trusty, one should be able to run a non-upstart-managed desktop session by default. | 14:10 |
| xnox | marga: yeap. if something still doesn't work properly, feel free to ping me =) | 14:11 |
| marga | xnox, thanks! :) | 14:11 |
| seb128 | larsu, sorry I was discussing with some QA guys, the "don't bother" is because nobody was there, so no point | 14:15 |
| seb128 | we just had some QA guys and Ken who joined later | 14:16 |
| larsu | okay | 14:17 |
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| didrocks | Laney: I guess you saw it, but just in case: http://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/transparent-terminals-back-in-fedora/ | 15:22 |
| didrocks | not sure if it's linked to your work as well :) | 15:22 |
| Laney | didrocks: no, but as it happens I am working on that patch atm ;) | 15:23 |
| Laney | to add the theme stuff back for us | 15:23 |
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| didrocks | yeah :) | 15:25 |
| Laney | rishi wrote all of it afaik, then larsu passed it on to me | 15:26 |
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| ember | [D | 16:56 |
| antarus | hrm | 17:08 |
| antarus | you don't take bugs in libreoffice? | 17:08 |
| antarus | apport seems to not let me send a crash report | 17:08 |
| antarus | hrm I guess it is in [main] | 17:09 |
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