| MooDoo | hello all | 06:21 |
|---|---|---|
| mapp | hey MooDoo | 06:39 |
| mapp | fell asleep at genting:(( | 06:40 |
| MooDoo | :*( | 06:43 |
| mapp | went for a smoke | 06:44 |
| mapp | then came back and yea fell asleep | 06:44 |
| mapp | paying 8.60 a pac | 06:45 |
| Myrtti | I've slept really poorly for the past few weeks so pardon my rant | 06:52 |
| mapp | we allmdo | 06:52 |
| mapp | :D | 06:52 |
| Myrtti | but why can't I easily find a multivitamin that doesn't have vitamin K in it? Don't people understand that your body in general makes it itself? GGGGGRRRRRRR | 06:52 |
| MooDoo | It's my kids keeping me awake :S | 06:53 |
| MooDoo | mapp: 8 quid a pack of smokes? wow is that how much it is nowadats? | 06:54 |
| mapp | and theres maps | 06:54 |
| mapp | yea | 06:54 |
| MooDoo | wow | 06:54 |
| mapp | 8.50 for 20 malboros | 06:55 |
| mapp | i remember when it was like4quid a pack | 07:00 |
| MartijnVdS | inflation | 07:04 |
| mapp | yep | 07:05 |
| MartijnVdS | also, trying to get people to quit for financial reasons | 07:05 |
| mapp | i paid like 8euros in holland | 07:05 |
| MooDoo | glad I don't smoke, and I only drink when people buy me beer for fixing their computer :) | 07:06 |
| mapp | MartijnVdS once a smoker always a smoker | 07:06 |
| mapp | MooDoo half wish i didnt smoke | 07:07 |
| MartijnVdS | mapp: not my dad | 07:07 |
| MooDoo | mapp: give up? | 07:07 |
| MooDoo | easier said that done i know | 07:07 |
| mapp | 10quid/day | 07:07 |
| MartijnVdS | My dad decided one day that he'd quit smoking.. hasn't smoked since | 07:07 |
| mapp | ripoff | 07:07 |
| mapp | nice | 07:08 |
| mapp | :) | 07:08 |
| mapp | my dad quit smoking 30years back | 07:09 |
| mapp | just wish we couldve stopped my mum | 07:10 |
| mapp | but thats life | 07:12 |
| Myrtti | hu | 07:36 |
| Myrtti | Dixons and Carphone Warehouse announce £3.8bn merger | 07:37 |
| SuperMatt | I'm not surprised | 07:37 |
| SuperMatt | though I am still surprised that dixons continues to call itself curry's digital | 07:37 |
| SuperMatt | the dixons name holds more weight, imo | 07:37 |
| SuperMatt | also, carphone warehouse needs to change its name | 07:39 |
| SuperMatt | dixons mobile, maybe? | 07:39 |
| MooDoo | week or so ago that was... dixons carphone it's going to be called | 07:41 |
| TwistedLucidity | Morning | 07:41 |
| MooDoo | morning | 07:42 |
| TwistedLucidity | Anyone know how to disable the keyboard indicator gubbins? (Keeps starting on login and keeps getting the wrong keyboard) | 07:42 |
| SuperMatt | MooDoo: really? that sucks | 07:42 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: yes | 07:44 |
| mapp | nie | 07:51 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Chocolate Chip Day! :-D | 07:55 |
| mapp | souf london | 07:55 |
| mapp | is where its at eh | 07:55 |
| mapp | :D | 07:55 |
| * SuperMatt highfives mapp | 07:59 | |
| SuperMatt | although I'm coming at your right now from west london | 08:00 |
| SuperMatt | stupid commute | 08:00 |
| * mapp highfives SuperMatt | 08:04 | |
| mapp | west london | 08:04 |
| mapp | pffffft | 08:04 |
| SuperMatt | well, it's where my super awesome job is | 08:04 |
| mapp | south london for life | 08:04 |
| mapp | :P | 08:04 |
| SuperMatt | weeeeellll... when you're working for rackspace, you just deal with west london | 08:05 |
| mapp | you kow e&c? | 08:05 |
| SuperMatt | Know it? I practically live a 5 minute bus ride from it! | 08:05 |
| mapp | thats where its all about | 08:05 |
| mapp | yea right | 08:05 |
| SuperMatt | I'm down by Burgess Park | 08:05 |
| mapp | elephant and castle i mean btw | 08:06 |
| mapp | guess no | 08:07 |
| mapp | i live near that mess that is tbe strata | 08:09 |
| SuperMatt | oh, fun | 08:10 |
| mapp | not really but thats life | 08:11 |
| mapp | you near there SuperMatt? | 08:11 |
| SuperMatt | mapp: like I said, down by burgess park, look it up :) | 08:14 |
| mapp | i shall | 08:20 |
| mapp | ) | 08:20 |
| mapp | :) | 08:20 |
| mapp | oh | 08:21 |
| mapp | so youre near me | 08:21 |
| mapp | :D | 08:21 |
| SuperMatt | wh00p | 08:22 |
| mapp | e&c is the best | 08:22 |
| mapp | :) | 08:22 |
| mapp | im just off gaunt street | 08:28 |
| mapp | like 2mins from there | 08:29 |
| SuperMatt | ah, cool | 08:30 |
| SuperMatt | near mistry of sound, I see | 08:31 |
| mapp | yea | 08:31 |
| SuperMatt | That is some place I would rather never go ;) | 08:31 |
| mapp | hahahahaha | 08:31 |
| mapp | mos is a joke | 08:31 |
| mapp | ive only been 3x | 08:32 |
| MooDoo | want one - http://aerofex.com/ | 08:32 |
| SuperMatt | I've never been | 08:32 |
| mapp | but its pretencious | 08:32 |
| mapp | u know fabric? | 08:32 |
| mapp | love it there | 08:33 |
| mapp | used to love turnmills | 08:33 |
| mapp | aka gurnmills | 08:33 |
| SuperMatt | nope, I'm not in to clubs | 08:35 |
| SuperMatt | never was, but I'm too old for that now anyway | 08:35 |
| mapp | oh no... | 08:36 |
| mapp | im too old too;p | 08:37 |
| mapp | fabric is ace | 08:37 |
| mapp | in faringdon | 08:37 |
| bashrc | morning | 08:45 |
| mapp | morning bashrc | 08:46 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you want the moon on a stick | 08:48 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you do want an oragnce box though don't you :) | 08:49 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: I so want an orange box | 09:08 |
| MooDoo | although have been looking into openstack swift :) | 09:08 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:09 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: can you get me one? | 09:09 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: ;) | 09:09 |
| shauno | I kinda want to see someone playing tf2 on the orange box. just because. | 09:12 |
| SuperMatt | hurrr]# | 09:27 |
| SuperMatt | it shold at least come with the steam dedicated server binaries installed ;) | 09:27 |
| SuperMatt | man, my typing sucks right now | 09:27 |
| awilkins | I'd love an Orange Box | 09:36 |
| awilkins | Have a raffle! | 09:36 |
| Wobbo | Where can i find where java, "Andoid ADT" settings saved? Everytime i reinstall java and/or Android ADT some setting are still there. I removed everything whith "android" incl. ".android" ".java" all eclips... etc. I reboot but stull all settings are stil there. Oh i removed all java using purge. Help | 09:44 |
| MartijnVdS | Wobbo: ~/.config ? | 09:46 |
| Wobbo | delete it? | 09:47 |
| Myrtti | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jolla-Sim-Free-Smartphone-16GB/dp/B00HJA7A3Y/ | 09:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Wobbo: no, look in there | 09:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Wobbo: it should contain all configuration for your user account | 09:47 |
| dwatkins | morning folks | 09:50 |
| brobostigon | moeninf dwatkins | 09:51 |
| Wobbo | I can not find anything there, nothing like "java", "android" or "ADT". Only "openoffice". | 09:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Wobbo: all Android stuff is in ~/.android for me -- maybe check /root/.android if you started adb as root? | 09:55 |
| MartijnVdS | ah.. ADT is the Eclipse plugin. Check in Eclipse plugin directories. | 09:55 |
| awilkins | Myrtti, That Sailfish phone is cool, but pricey compared to a 16GB Nexus series phone | 10:22 |
| hoover | Hi all | 10:28 |
| Myrtti | awilkins: yup | 10:46 |
| awilkins | That Chinese superduperphone also seems an attractive buy even at the 64GB mark | 10:47 |
| Laney | grr | 11:05 |
| Laney | someone invent a bee / fly flicking device | 11:05 |
| Laney | so that I can push them out of the window without having to get up | 11:05 |
| shauno | these are great fun :) http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003GU23EW | 11:06 |
| brobostigon | why not invent a miniture UAV for the purpose, in house/room usage, :) | 11:07 |
| brobostigon | with a huge james bond laser on it, to buzz the bugs. | 11:07 |
| shauno | then you'd have to out-fly a fly, rather than just applying disproportionate force | 11:08 |
| brobostigon | no, it flies itself, detects the flies and kills them, without user intervention. | 11:08 |
| Laney | I don't want killing :( | 11:08 |
| awilkins | No need for lasers | 11:11 |
| awilkins | Just have a turbine intake that sucks them into a jar | 11:11 |
| awilkins | Then it flies outside and releases them | 11:12 |
| awilkins | Or mulches them into a biogas digester to power itself | 11:12 |
| awilkins | Like the slug-killing robot that digested the slugs in a fuel cell | 11:12 |
| brobostigon | that would work, | 11:13 |
| shauno | just stop dusting. spiders will take care of the rest :) | 11:13 |
| awilkins | Yeah, I just leave spiders alone because they don't generally annoy me | 11:14 |
| awilkins | Except the one that lives under the fireplace | 11:14 |
| awilkins | Who is big and brown and scuttles. Fast. | 11:14 |
| shauno | I've tried to draw a truce - I chase them out the bedroom, but let them have behind the TV | 11:14 |
| shauno | it seems to work okay for Israel, so why not | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | Morning all you funky people | 11:27 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 :) how are you this fine day? | 11:28 |
| jussi | davmor2: careful... you honestly think that we are funky? that anyone here except funkyHat is funky? :D | 11:30 |
| * jussi hugs davmor2 | 11:31 | |
| jussi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdV-yhsVdCw | 11:32 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 11:33 |
| jussi | morning bigcalm | 11:33 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I'm feeling pretty good today to be honest, Back is killing too much standing at the funeral yesterday but today pretty happy | 11:34 |
| robotninja | 'lo all :) | 11:35 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: good to hear it mate. You'll feel even better when you get me one of the orange boxes :D | 11:42 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| davmor2 | MooDoo: popey was ordering multiple ones yesterday I'm sure you can bung you one :) | 11:43 |
| popey | hmm? | 11:43 |
| popey | I was ordering orange leather backs for my nexus 4 ☻ | 11:43 |
| popey | somewhat cheaper | 11:43 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: there is an article on building your own minus the pretty orange case | 11:43 |
| popey | yeah | 11:44 |
| davmor2 | popey: Yeah yeah yeah ;) You say that now people might believe you were buying them :D | 11:44 |
| awilkins | popey, Does that imply dismantling the case and swapping the back out? | 11:44 |
| popey | no, stick on back, hairdryer to bond | 11:45 |
| awilkins | popey, Intruiging | 11:45 |
| awilkins | popey, Most of the reason I have a bumper case on my N4 is because the plastic back means it slips off smooth surfaces and gets dinged | 11:45 |
| Dave2 | s/plastic/glass/ | 11:45 |
| popey | http://curebit.com/x/YsY9UF is what I bought | 11:46 |
| popey | awilkins: exactly why I bought ^^ that | 11:46 |
| popey | and apparently it even can charge through that using the induction charger | 11:46 |
| awilkins | If it didn't slip I could take the case off and enjoy it's slick slimness more | 11:46 |
| popey | ditto | 11:46 |
| popey | i only have a case on my two nexus 4's because I'm scared of dinging them | 11:46 |
| awilkins | Also thought about doing the CPU heatsink mod | 11:50 |
| awilkins | But loathe to take it to bits | 11:50 |
| davmor2 | popey: oh I thought it was cause it cost you money to de-ding them so you bought the case to keep them de-dinged | 11:53 |
| popey | same thing | 11:54 |
| Myrtti | I got some scrapping paper from the garden centre on the weekend, so now I've got almost unlimited amount of pretty cases because I can put the scrapping paper into my Ringke Fusion | 11:55 |
| Myrtti | Hobbycraft had some nice scrapping paper ... let me find a link | 11:56 |
| Myrtti | http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/first-edition-man-made-premium-paper-pad-12-x-12-assorted/590136-1000 | 11:57 |
| Myrtti | although they do have 6x6 too | 11:57 |
| Myrtti | http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/first-edition-man-made-premium-paper-pad-6-x-6-assorted/590137-1000 | 11:57 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| MooDoo | anyone use chromecast? just got myself one today | 12:55 |
| Myrtti | several | 13:04 |
| Myrtti | two in UK, two in Finland | 13:04 |
| Myrtti | they're brilliant | 13:04 |
| MooDoo | good thanks Myrtti | 13:04 |
| Myrtti | the only thing that there's to complain is that depending on what you connect them to they hijack the device | 13:05 |
| Myrtti | ie. if we'd hook it to our AVR, it would automatically start with Chromecast on rather than what was last used | 13:05 |
| MartijnVdS | oh it uses "Control for HDMI" or CEC | 13:07 |
| * awilkins has only one device with an HDMI port and that isn't getting Chromcasted | 13:07 | |
| MartijnVdS | disable that on the other devices (and use a Logitech Harmony to get everything on/off in the right order) | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | MartijnVdS: the remote the AVR came with is better than Harmony :-| | 13:08 |
| MartijnVdS | unpossible | 13:08 |
| MartijnVdS | I've tried CEC (with the auto on/off), but that doesn't work for me | 13:10 |
| MartijnVdS | Turning on the receiver/amplifier turned on the TV.. even if I just wanted to play a CD | 13:10 |
| MartijnVdS | turning off the TV also turned off the amp | 13:10 |
| Myrtti | I wish I weren't so tired, I might even understand what you're saying | 13:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: with CEC on: turn on amp -> TV turns on (even if I want the amp for CDs) | 13:15 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: without CEC on: turn on amp -> only amp turns on | 13:15 |
| * Myrtti blinks slowly | 13:15 | |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control#CEC | 13:16 |
| Myrtti | bräbläbläblbäää | 13:16 |
| * Myrtti bookmaksr for later | 13:17 | |
| awilkins | Nearest experience I've had is the wire in the SCART connector that changes the channel when you turn on the DVD player... | 13:20 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: yes.. and it bothered me back then too :) | 13:26 |
| awilkins | DO DO DO, come on and do the conga | 13:28 |
| awilkins | Sorry | 13:28 |
| MartijnVdS | Friday is *tomorrow*, awilkins :P | 13:29 |
| awilkins | My shiny new big nerdy joystick gets delivered tomorrow | 13:29 |
| awilkins | I can pew pew some spaceships | 13:30 |
| Seeker` | awilkins: in what game? | 13:30 |
| awilkins | Well, I'm looking forward to both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous | 13:31 |
| awilkins | Can play the single player build of Elite : D a bit | 13:31 |
| awilkins | Multiplayer beta of Star Citizen is supposed to be out next week | 13:31 |
| awilkins | Elite D multiplayer beta out end of month | 13:31 |
| dwatkins | :D awilkins | 13:32 |
| awilkins | Until then I'm tempted to just get both i-War games on GOG for ten bucks and play the heck out of them... again. | 13:32 |
| awilkins | Or my X-Wing / Tie Fighter collectors editions | 13:32 |
| awilkins | Or Freescape 2 or basically anything involving space combat pew-pewing | 13:33 |
| TwistedLucidity | awilkins: BSG:Diaspora | 13:33 |
| awilkins | TwistedLucidity, Is that a Freespace total conversion? | 13:34 |
| awilkins | Aha, yes it is | 13:34 |
| TwistedLucidity | It's short, but good fun and would be great on a decent games rig | 13:35 |
| awilkins | Also sounds good fun | 13:35 |
| awilkins | My rig can probably do Freespace 2 engine Great Justice | 13:35 |
| TwistedLucidity | Helps to like the BSG reboot (which ended at season 4....there was no season 5. It never happened!) | 13:36 |
| TwistedLucidity | Just like Star Was 1-3 do not exist.... | 13:36 |
| dwatkins | awilkins: Planetary Annihilation is £20 on the humble bundle store today | 13:38 |
| dwatkins | the latest bundle looks pretty neat, too | 13:38 |
| TwistedLucidity | dwatkins: Does it have Linux support? | 13:40 |
| TwistedLucidity | 2 out of 3 it seems | 13:41 |
| dwatkins | TwistedLucidity: yep - http://store.steampowered.com/app/233250/ | 13:42 |
| TwistedLucidity | dwatkins: Yeah, I initially assumed that because I couldn't see a penguin it was Windows-only. | 13:42 |
| TwistedLucidity | And sorry, I was talking about the Humble Bundle | 13:42 |
| dwatkins | ah sorry, context confusion | 13:43 |
| diddledan_ | morning | 13:58 |
| MooDoo | howdy diddledan_ | 14:08 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| diddledan_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tGievXbsmVw | 14:39 |
| diddledan_ | gotta love weebl | 14:39 |
| shauno | random. someone just came up to me at work with an ubuntu iso on a usb stick, and asked if I'd ever heard of it & could figure out how to boot it | 16:01 |
| awilkins | "Sounds like TERRORIST software to me." | 16:03 |
| awilkins | "You ain't no TERRORIST, are you, pal?" | 16:03 |
| shauno | eh. he's from the north. I try not to make that joke because I don't want to know the answer | 16:04 |
| diddledan_ | shauno, you mean he "copied the iso to the usb thingy" rather than imaging the iso to the usb thingy? | 16:05 |
| awilkins | I also wondered the same | 16:05 |
| shauno | yes. he put the iso on the usb stick. hence the question :) | 16:06 |
| shauno | I pointed him to unetbootin and told him I don't do PCs :) | 16:06 |
| bashrc | I thought that hte definition was so broad that everyone is a terrorist now | 16:06 |
| awilkins | I find a good way to make a bootable USB is to have a bootable USB to use the bootable USB program | 16:06 |
| diddledan_ | awilkins, that's so meta | 16:06 |
| bashrc | terrorising the interwebs with yer bootable USB | 16:07 |
| diddledan_ | awilkins, catch 22 and all that jazz | 16:07 |
| awilkins | Since our work laptops are so locked down we can't write to removable devices, this is in fact the only way to do it with work laptop | 16:07 |
| diddledan_ | I like that the work laptop doesn't prevent you from booting random usbs tho | 16:07 |
| awilkins | The disk is encrypted with something proprietary so you can't really interfere with it | 16:08 |
| diddledan_ | oh :-( | 16:08 |
| awilkins | Although I have accidentally blatted it's bootloader on occasion.... | 16:08 |
| diddledan_ | \o/ | 16:08 |
| awilkins | .... the installer now very carefully prompts you for which disk it puts the bootloader on as a result.. :-) | 16:09 |
| shauno | well he seems to be getting somewhere. he went quiet for 10 minutes, and came back with "what's the super key?" | 16:09 |
| diddledan_ | hehe, love that linux renames the windows key | 16:10 |
| awilkins | That's because the new builds splat the shortcut thing into your face until you press super | 16:10 |
| awilkins | Which is a problem on my machine at home because it has an old-style Model M | 16:10 |
| awilkins | Still not found out how to remap capslock to another super on Trusty | 16:11 |
| shauno | I'm just entertainined because I live on the internet. I don't get to observe 'noobs' in their natural habitat very often | 16:11 |
| awilkins | My upgraded boxes still have the setting in place but my fresh install doesn't and GNOME in their infinite wisdom have removed the panel that sets it | 16:11 |
| awilkins | I think that kind of attitude is rather dunderheaded, TBH | 16:11 |
| awilkins | On Windows : the answer may be obscure, if the feature is supported, but there is a panel to set it | 16:12 |
| awilkins | In GNOME : "What do you mean, it supports that feature, but they took out the GUI panel that lets you control it and I *might* be able to set it if I install this other thing....?" | 16:12 |
| bashrc | can you get ubuntu keys for model M's? | 16:13 |
| awilkins | bashrc, It has no keyswitch for it | 16:13 |
| bashrc | to replace the windoze keycap | 16:14 |
| awilkins | http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24622.0 | 16:15 |
| awilkins | I've seen custom super keycaps but I don't know about for Model Ms | 16:15 |
| awilkins | Don't know if the Unicomp ones even support removable caps | 16:16 |
| bashrc | yes they do | 16:16 |
| shauno | I didn't think the model M had a windows key? | 16:21 |
| awilkins | Old ones don't | 16:22 |
| bashrc | the originals wouldn't have, but they're still made by Unicomp | 16:22 |
| awilkins | Unicomp make "new" ones | 16:22 |
| bashrc | with windows keys | 16:22 |
| awilkins | They use buckling-spring switches liek the old ones | 16:22 |
| awilkins | But are not as heavy, have USB plugs, etc | 16:23 |
| shauno | ah, gotcha | 16:23 |
| awilkins | I have one made in Scotland. From girders. | 16:23 |
| bashrc | I don't think there's much difference in weight. They still have the metal backplate | 16:23 |
| awilkins | Still beat-your-boss-to-death and keep-on-coding capable? | 16:24 |
| awilkins | I use a Cherry at work | 16:24 |
| awilkins | It's marginally quieter | 16:24 |
| awilkins | Still has clickity switches though | 16:24 |
| awilkins | People generally know I'm on a conference call from home when they hear the sound of something like an M60 in the background | 16:25 |
| bashrc | terrorist target practice? | 16:25 |
| awilkins | Vim | 16:26 |
| awilkins | So, yeah. | 16:26 |
| bashrc | :) | 16:26 |
| shauno | I gotta admit I never got the attraction there. not my cuppa tea | 16:28 |
| bashrc | Vim or model Ms? | 16:29 |
| * awilkins is intensely fond of both | 16:30 | |
| * bashrc is an Emacs user | 16:30 | |
| awilkins | Emacs is of course the editor of people who like running one operating system inside another. And I don't mean in a VM. | 16:31 |
| diddledan_ | I can do drive-by use of vim but haven't scratched the surface of it's capability | 16:31 |
| diddledan_ | I tend to stick to nano | 16:31 |
| diddledan_ | or a gui | 16:31 |
| awilkins | I feel like that regardless of how much I use Vim but nano irks me | 16:31 |
| shauno | I have an irrational hatred of nano :/ | 16:32 |
| awilkins | And I tend to prefer GUI editors that have a Vim-ish keybinding | 16:32 |
| awilkins | Like Komodo Edit. Or Eclipse with a Vim plugin. | 16:32 |
| bashrc | org-mode is hard to beat | 16:32 |
| awilkins | Yeah, I like the sound of it | 16:32 |
| awilkins | I think I even installed Emacs to try it | 16:33 |
| shauno | I can't believe the hurd guys still haven't finished emacs' kernel yet | 16:33 |
| awilkins | And tried to find a Vim plugin for it | 16:33 |
| bashrc | I think there is a vim mode for Emacs. have never used it though | 16:34 |
| bashrc | generally if you can htink of it then there's a mode for it | 16:34 |
| awilkins | Yup. You don't see people writing Emacs mode for other editors, but you do see Vim ones :P | 16:35 |
| shauno | I had an icq client than ran in emacs, way back in the dark ages | 16:35 |
| awilkins | Probably because there is no Emacs mode, it's all *you* mode in Emacs | 16:35 |
| bashrc | http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/VimMode | 16:35 |
| awilkins | I tried to use Microemacs when I had an Amiga. It made my brain hurt. | 16:35 |
| shauno | hah, I still use memacs. the trick is to ignore that it's trying to be emacs, and just mouse the menu | 16:36 |
| bashrc | I think Linus used microEmacs for a long time | 16:36 |
| awilkins | Vim makes my brain hurt also. But not my fingers. | 16:36 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| awilkins | Linus : "emacs .. is the tool of the devil" | 16:38 |
| awilkins | (quote lacking a little context...) | 16:38 |
| bashrc | :) | 16:38 |
| awilkins | He's saying that Full Fat Emacs is the tool of the devil, but he uses a shiny version of microemacs that has UTF-8 support so that's OK | 16:38 |
| bashrc | http://git.kernel.org/cgit/editors/uemacs/uemacs.git | 16:39 |
| awilkins | Oh wow... Vim... runs on Chrome : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vim/dhhoacdlegcbdglbfnhgnlchpkdlofkb | 16:40 |
| awilkins | Ah, but no storage and no running external tools | 16:40 |
| awilkins | So basically almost pointless | 16:40 |
| bashrc | wait. you can run emacs-mode from within vim-mode from within Emacs? | 16:42 |
| awilkins | Is there an emacs-mode for Vim? | 16:42 |
| bashrc | I winder if that also supports vim-mode | 16:42 |
| shauno | interesting - I never even thought of running vim on the amiga, but apparently it exists | 16:42 |
| awilkins | Yup | 16:43 |
| awilkins | Because it's so nice and light you can run it on old antiquated buckets | 16:43 |
| shauno | buckets?! | 16:43 |
| bashrc | or dead badgers | 16:43 |
| awilkins | Amiga only got MicroEMACS though (was included with machine) | 16:43 |
| awilkins | I had an Amiga 500 | 16:44 |
| awilkins | It got to the point where it would only work if you directed a hairdryer at a particular spot on the circuit board | 16:44 |
| shauno | my 1200 is sat at home paused half way through a game. sometimes I wish it made noise so I'd remember to turn it off | 16:44 |
| bashrc | you probably didn't recite the correct incantation | 16:45 |
| awilkins | That was one thing about the computers of yesteryear... no thermal problems | 16:45 |
| awilkins | That Ubuntu Orange Box thing is all passive cooling apart from one case fan | 16:45 |
| awilkins | Might try and get my boss to shell out for one | 16:45 |
| bashrc | I have no thermal problems with the Cubieboard. It runs almost cold | 16:45 |
| awilkins | The problem is then once we've created awesome cloudiness is getting it deployed to our server infrastructure | 16:46 |
| awilkins | Because our IT department would look at a Linux VM and go "Nuh?" | 16:46 |
| shauno | we have the opposite problem atm. someone keeps getting excited about AWS, and we're struggling to stop them from doing something silly | 16:49 |
| bashrc | airraid warning system? | 16:49 |
| shauno | amazon's cloud wotsit | 16:50 |
| bashrc | oh | 16:50 |
| bashrc | surely the amazon cloud is only for businesses who want to have all of their data exfiltrated | 16:51 |
| * bashrc noticed the "economic" section of No Place to Hide | 16:53 | |
| diddledan_ | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/solar-roadways | 16:55 |
| * diddledan_ wanders off to find chocolate | 16:56 | |
| bashrc | heard of that idea before. It sounds good | 16:58 |
| awilkins | Yeah, if only they could produce costings | 16:58 |
| awilkins | But, iterative product design | 16:58 |
| awilkins | I paid £2700 to repave my drive | 16:59 |
| awilkins | If it cost £5000 to repave my drive with those solar hextiles, I'd do it in a heartbeat. | 16:59 |
| bashrc | the surface area of all roads and pavements must be massive | 16:59 |
| bashrc | if a tile lasted for a decade then it would probably pay for itself in electricity | 17:01 |
| shauno | unless you live in ireland. then you'd just be day yoke with the blue driveway. | 17:10 |
| shauno | *dat | 17:10 |
| funkyHat | jussi: ⢁D | 18:56 |
| MartijnVdS | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOd3lwluQIw | 19:12 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3ag8kdpcqyu7upj/AADDinSwK1S6_i33drXdJl5Ca | 20:33 |
| daftykins | some snaps of the fine weather at a couple of beaches today :) | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | looks good! | 20:36 |
| * diddledan_ zeroes in on the doggypics | 20:37 | |
| daftykins | :D | 20:37 |
| daftykins | the forecast keeps saying it's only 15, but i'm sure it's higher | 20:38 |
| daftykins | 'cause it's already at that my-forehead-is-caked-in-sweat from cycling stage | 20:38 |
| daftykins | yay i got my new CD that's not scratched this time | 20:41 |
| diddledan_ | \o/ | 20:41 |
| daftykins | let's see how ripping fares this time | 20:41 |
| daftykins | still need to send the old'un back D: | 20:41 |
| daftykins | heh, i just zero'd the 2TB WD that was in my old array, that failed | 20:42 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/te1n97adzd5iupo/afterzero.png | 20:43 |
| daftykins | not as good as 2 million but definitely fubar \o/ | 20:43 |
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