[06:21] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:39] <mapp> hey MooDoo
[06:40] <mapp> fell asleep at genting:((
[06:43] <MooDoo> :*(
[06:44] <mapp> went for a smoke
[06:44] <mapp> then came back and yea fell asleep
[06:45] <mapp> paying 8.60 a pac
[06:52] <Myrtti> I've slept really poorly for the past few weeks so pardon my rant
[06:52] <mapp> we allmdo
[06:52] <mapp> :D
[06:52] <Myrtti> but why can't I easily find a multivitamin that doesn't have vitamin K in it? Don't people understand that your body in general makes it itself? GGGGGRRRRRRR
[06:53] <MooDoo> It's my kids keeping me awake :S
[06:54] <MooDoo> mapp: 8 quid a pack of smokes?  wow is that how much it is nowadats?
[06:54] <mapp> and theres maps
[06:54] <mapp> yea
[06:54] <MooDoo> wow
[06:55] <mapp> 8.50 for 20 malboros
[07:00] <mapp> i remember when it was like4quid a pack
[07:04] <MartijnVdS> inflation
[07:05] <mapp> yep
[07:05] <MartijnVdS> also, trying to get people to quit for financial reasons
[07:05] <mapp> i paid like 8euros in holland
[07:06] <MooDoo> glad I don't smoke, and I only drink when people buy me beer for fixing their computer :)
[07:06] <mapp> MartijnVdS once a smoker always a smoker
[07:07] <mapp> MooDoo half wish i didnt smoke
[07:07] <MartijnVdS> mapp: not my dad
[07:07] <MooDoo> mapp: give up?
[07:07] <MooDoo> easier said that done i know
[07:07] <mapp> 10quid/day
[07:07] <MartijnVdS> My dad decided one day that he'd quit smoking.. hasn't smoked since
[07:07] <mapp> ripoff
[07:08] <mapp> nice
[07:08] <mapp> :)
[07:09] <mapp> my dad quit smoking 30years back
[07:10] <mapp> just wish we couldve stopped my mum
[07:12] <mapp> but thats life
[07:36] <Myrtti> hu
[07:37] <Myrtti> Dixons and Carphone Warehouse announce £3.8bn merger
[07:37] <SuperMatt> I'm not surprised
[07:37] <SuperMatt> though I am still surprised that dixons continues to call itself curry's digital
[07:37] <SuperMatt> the dixons name holds more weight, imo
[07:39] <SuperMatt> also, carphone warehouse needs to change its name
[07:39] <SuperMatt> dixons mobile, maybe?
[07:41] <MooDoo> week or so ago that was... dixons carphone it's going to be called
[07:41] <TwistedLucidity> Morning
[07:42] <MooDoo> morning
[07:42] <TwistedLucidity> Anyone know how to disable the keyboard indicator gubbins? (Keeps starting on login and keeps getting the wrong keyboard)
[07:42] <SuperMatt> MooDoo: really? that sucks
[07:44] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: yes
[07:51] <mapp> nie
[07:55] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Chip Day! :-D
[07:55] <mapp> souf london
[07:55] <mapp> is where its at eh
[07:55] <mapp> :D
[07:59]  * SuperMatt highfives mapp 
[08:00] <SuperMatt> although I'm coming at your right now from west london
[08:00] <SuperMatt> stupid commute
[08:04]  * mapp highfives SuperMatt
[08:04] <mapp> west london
[08:04] <mapp> pffffft
[08:04] <SuperMatt> well, it's where my super awesome job is
[08:04] <mapp> south london for life
[08:04] <mapp> :P
[08:05] <SuperMatt> weeeeellll... when you're working for rackspace, you just deal with west london
[08:05] <mapp> you kow e&c?
[08:05] <SuperMatt> Know it? I practically live a 5 minute bus ride from it!
[08:05] <mapp> thats where its all about
[08:05] <mapp> yea right
[08:05] <SuperMatt> I'm down by Burgess Park
[08:06] <mapp> elephant and castle i mean btw
[08:07] <mapp> guess no
[08:09] <mapp> i live near that mess that is tbe strata
[08:10] <SuperMatt> oh, fun
[08:11] <mapp> not really but thats life
[08:11] <mapp> you near there SuperMatt?
[08:14] <SuperMatt> mapp: like I said, down by burgess park, look it up :)
[08:20] <mapp> i shall
[08:20] <mapp> )
[08:20] <mapp> :)
[08:21] <mapp> oh
[08:21] <mapp> so youre near me
[08:21] <mapp> :D
[08:22] <SuperMatt> wh00p
[08:22] <mapp> e&c is the best
[08:22] <mapp> :)
[08:28] <mapp> im just off gaunt street
[08:29] <mapp> like 2mins from there
[08:30] <SuperMatt> ah, cool
[08:31] <SuperMatt> near mistry of sound, I see
[08:31] <mapp> yea
[08:31] <SuperMatt> That is some place I would rather never go ;)
[08:31] <mapp> hahahahaha
[08:31] <mapp> mos is a joke
[08:32] <mapp> ive only been 3x
[08:32] <MooDoo> want one - http://aerofex.com/
[08:32] <SuperMatt> I've never been
[08:32] <mapp> but its pretencious
[08:32] <mapp> u know fabric?
[08:33] <mapp> love it there
[08:33] <mapp> used to love turnmills
[08:33] <mapp> aka gurnmills
[08:35] <SuperMatt> nope, I'm not in to clubs
[08:35] <SuperMatt> never was, but I'm too old for that now anyway
[08:36] <mapp> oh no...
[08:37] <mapp> im too old too;p
[08:37] <mapp> fabric is ace
[08:37] <mapp> in faringdon
[08:45] <bashrc> morning
[08:46] <mapp> morning bashrc
[08:48] <davmor2> MooDoo: you want the moon on a stick
[08:49] <davmor2> MooDoo: you do want an oragnce box though don't you :)
[09:08] <MooDoo> davmor2: I so want an orange box
[09:08] <MooDoo> although  have been looking into openstack swift :)
[09:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:09] <MooDoo> davmor2: can you get me one?
[09:09] <MooDoo> davmor2: ;)
[09:12] <shauno> I kinda want to see someone playing tf2 on the orange box.  just because.
[09:27] <SuperMatt> hurrr]#
[09:27] <SuperMatt> it shold at least come with the steam dedicated server binaries installed ;)
[09:27] <SuperMatt> man, my typing sucks right now
[09:36] <awilkins> I'd love an Orange Box
[09:36] <awilkins> Have a raffle!
[09:44] <Wobbo> Where can i find where java, "Andoid ADT" settings saved? Everytime i reinstall java and/or Android ADT some setting are still there. I removed everything whith "android" incl. ".android" ".java" all eclips... etc. I reboot but stull all settings are stil there. Oh i removed all java using purge. Help
[09:46] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: ~/.config ?
[09:47] <Wobbo> delete it?
[09:47] <Myrtti> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jolla-Sim-Free-Smartphone-16GB/dp/B00HJA7A3Y/
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: no, look in there
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: it should contain all configuration for your user account
[09:50] <dwatkins> morning folks
[09:51] <brobostigon> moeninf dwatkins
[09:54] <Wobbo> I can not find anything there, nothing like "java", "android" or "ADT". Only "openoffice".
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: all Android stuff is in ~/.android for me -- maybe check /root/.android if you started adb as root?
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> ah.. ADT is the Eclipse plugin. Check in Eclipse plugin directories.
[10:22] <awilkins> Myrtti, That Sailfish phone is cool, but pricey compared to a 16GB Nexus series phone
[10:28] <hoover> Hi all
[10:46] <Myrtti> awilkins: yup
[10:47] <awilkins> That Chinese superduperphone also seems an attractive buy even at the 64GB mark
[11:05] <Laney> grr
[11:05] <Laney> someone invent a bee / fly flicking device
[11:05] <Laney> so that I can push them out of the window without having to get up
[11:06] <shauno> these are great fun :) http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003GU23EW
[11:07] <brobostigon> why not invent a miniture UAV for the purpose, in house/room usage, :)
[11:07] <brobostigon> with a huge james bond laser on it, to buzz the bugs.
[11:08] <shauno> then you'd have to out-fly a fly, rather than just applying disproportionate force
[11:08] <brobostigon> no, it flies itself, detects the flies and kills them, without user intervention.
[11:08] <Laney> I don't want killing :(
[11:11] <awilkins> No need for lasers
[11:11] <awilkins> Just have a turbine intake that sucks them into a jar
[11:12] <awilkins> Then it flies outside and releases them
[11:12] <awilkins> Or mulches them into a biogas digester to power itself
[11:12] <awilkins> Like the slug-killing robot that digested the slugs in a fuel cell
[11:13] <brobostigon> that would work,
[11:13] <shauno> just stop dusting.  spiders will take care of the rest :)
[11:14] <awilkins> Yeah, I just leave spiders alone because they don't generally annoy me
[11:14] <awilkins> Except the one that lives under the fireplace
[11:14] <awilkins> Who is big and brown and scuttles. Fast.
[11:14] <shauno> I've tried to draw a truce - I chase them out the bedroom, but let them have behind the TV
[11:15] <shauno> it seems to work okay for Israel, so why not
[11:27] <davmor2> Morning all you funky people
[11:28] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 :) how are you this fine day?
[11:30] <jussi> davmor2: careful... you honestly think that we are funky? that anyone here except funkyHat is funky? :D
[11:31]  * jussi hugs davmor2 
[11:32] <jussi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdV-yhsVdCw
[11:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:33] <jussi> morning bigcalm
[11:34] <davmor2> MooDoo: I'm feeling pretty good today to be honest, Back is killing too much standing at the funeral yesterday but today pretty happy
[11:35] <robotninja> 'lo all :)
[11:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: good to hear it mate.  You'll feel even better when you get me one of the orange boxes :D
[11:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: popey was ordering multiple ones yesterday I'm sure you can bung you one :)
[11:43] <popey> hmm?
[11:43] <popey> I was ordering orange leather backs for my nexus 4 ☻
[11:43] <popey> somewhat cheaper
[11:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: there is an article on building your own minus the pretty orange case
[11:44] <popey> yeah
[11:44] <davmor2> popey: Yeah yeah yeah ;)  You say that now people might believe you were buying them :D
[11:44] <awilkins> popey, Does that imply dismantling the case and swapping the back out?
[11:45] <popey> no, stick on back, hairdryer to bond
[11:45] <awilkins> popey, Intruiging
[11:45] <awilkins> popey, Most of the reason I have a bumper case on my N4 is because the plastic back means it slips off smooth surfaces and gets dinged
[11:45] <Dave2> s/plastic/glass/
[11:46] <popey> http://curebit.com/x/YsY9UF is what I bought
[11:46] <popey> awilkins: exactly why I bought ^^ that
[11:46] <popey> and apparently it even can charge through that using the induction charger
[11:46] <awilkins> If it didn't slip I could take the case off and enjoy it's slick slimness more
[11:46] <popey> ditto
[11:46] <popey> i only have a case on my two nexus 4's because I'm scared of dinging them
[11:50] <awilkins> Also thought about doing the CPU heatsink mod
[11:50] <awilkins> But loathe to take it to bits
[11:53] <davmor2> popey: oh I thought it was cause it cost you money to de-ding them so you bought the case to keep them de-dinged
[11:54] <popey> same thing
[11:55] <Myrtti> I got some scrapping paper from the garden centre on the weekend, so now I've got almost unlimited amount of pretty cases because I can put the scrapping paper into my Ringke Fusion
[11:56] <Myrtti> Hobbycraft had some nice scrapping paper ... let me find a link
[11:57] <Myrtti> http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/first-edition-man-made-premium-paper-pad-12-x-12-assorted/590136-1000
[11:57] <Myrtti> although they do have 6x6 too
[11:57] <Myrtti> http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/first-edition-man-made-premium-paper-pad-6-x-6-assorted/590137-1000
[12:55] <MooDoo> anyone use chromecast?  just got myself one today
[13:04] <Myrtti> several
[13:04] <Myrtti> two in UK, two in Finland
[13:04] <Myrtti> they're brilliant
[13:04] <MooDoo> good thanks Myrtti
[13:05] <Myrtti> the only thing that there's to complain is that depending on what you connect them to they hijack the device
[13:05] <Myrtti> ie. if we'd hook it to our AVR, it would automatically start with Chromecast on rather than what was last used
[13:07] <MartijnVdS> oh it uses "Control for HDMI" or CEC
[13:07]  * awilkins has only one device with an HDMI port and that isn't getting Chromcasted
[13:08] <MartijnVdS> disable that on the other devices (and use a Logitech Harmony to get everything on/off in the right order)
[13:08] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS: the remote the AVR came with is better than Harmony :-|
[13:08] <MartijnVdS> unpossible
[13:10] <MartijnVdS> I've tried CEC (with the auto on/off), but that doesn't work for me
[13:10] <MartijnVdS> Turning on the receiver/amplifier turned on the TV.. even if I just wanted to play a CD
[13:10] <MartijnVdS> turning off the TV also turned off the amp
[13:13] <Myrtti> I wish I weren't so tired, I might even understand what you're saying
[13:15] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: with CEC on: turn on amp -> TV turns on (even if I want the amp for CDs)
[13:15] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: without CEC on: turn on amp -> only amp turns on
[13:15]  * Myrtti blinks slowly
[13:16] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control#CEC
[13:16] <Myrtti> bräbläbläblbäää
[13:17]  * Myrtti bookmaksr for later
[13:20] <awilkins> Nearest experience I've had is the wire in the SCART connector that changes the channel when you turn on the DVD player...
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: yes.. and it bothered me back then too :)
[13:28] <awilkins> DO DO DO, come on and do the conga
[13:28] <awilkins> Sorry
[13:29] <MartijnVdS> Friday is *tomorrow*, awilkins :P
[13:29] <awilkins> My shiny new big nerdy joystick gets delivered tomorrow
[13:30] <awilkins> I can pew pew some spaceships
[13:30] <Seeker`> awilkins: in what game?
[13:31] <awilkins> Well, I'm looking forward to both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous
[13:31] <awilkins> Can play the single player build of Elite : D a bit
[13:31] <awilkins> Multiplayer beta of Star Citizen is supposed to be out next week
[13:31] <awilkins> Elite D multiplayer beta out end of month
[13:32] <dwatkins> :D awilkins
[13:32] <awilkins> Until then I'm tempted to just get both i-War games on GOG for ten bucks and play the heck out of them... again.
[13:32] <awilkins> Or my X-Wing / Tie Fighter collectors editions
[13:33] <awilkins> Or Freescape 2 or basically anything involving space combat pew-pewing
[13:33] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: BSG:Diaspora
[13:34] <awilkins> TwistedLucidity, Is that a Freespace total conversion?
[13:34] <awilkins> Aha, yes it is
[13:35] <TwistedLucidity> It's short, but good fun and would be great on a decent games rig
[13:35] <awilkins> Also sounds good fun
[13:35] <awilkins> My rig can probably do Freespace 2 engine Great Justice
[13:36] <TwistedLucidity> Helps to like the BSG reboot (which ended at season 4....there was no season 5. It never happened!)
[13:36] <TwistedLucidity> Just like Star Was 1-3 do not exist....
[13:38] <dwatkins> awilkins: Planetary Annihilation is £20 on the humble bundle store today
[13:38] <dwatkins> the latest bundle looks pretty neat, too
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> dwatkins: Does it have Linux support?
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> 2 out of 3 it seems
[13:42] <dwatkins> TwistedLucidity: yep - http://store.steampowered.com/app/233250/
[13:42] <TwistedLucidity> dwatkins: Yeah, I initially assumed that because I couldn't see a penguin it was Windows-only.
[13:42] <TwistedLucidity> And sorry, I was talking about the Humble Bundle
[13:43] <dwatkins> ah sorry, context confusion
[13:58] <diddledan_> morning
[14:08] <MooDoo> howdy diddledan_
[14:39] <diddledan_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tGievXbsmVw
[14:39] <diddledan_> gotta love weebl
[16:01] <shauno> random.  someone just came up to me at work with an ubuntu iso on a usb stick, and asked if I'd ever heard of it & could figure out how to boot it
[16:03] <awilkins> "Sounds like TERRORIST software to me."
[16:03] <awilkins> "You ain't no TERRORIST, are you, pal?"
[16:04] <shauno> eh.  he's from the north.  I try not to make that joke because I don't want to know the answer
[16:05] <diddledan_> shauno, you mean he "copied the iso to the usb thingy" rather than imaging the iso to the usb thingy?
[16:05] <awilkins> I also wondered the same
[16:06] <shauno> yes.  he put the iso on the usb stick.  hence the question :)
[16:06] <shauno> I pointed him to unetbootin and told him I don't do PCs :)
[16:06] <bashrc> I thought that hte definition was so broad that everyone is a terrorist now
[16:06] <awilkins> I find a good way to make a bootable USB is to have a bootable USB to use the bootable USB program
[16:06] <diddledan_> awilkins, that's so meta
[16:07] <bashrc> terrorising the interwebs with yer bootable USB
[16:07] <diddledan_> awilkins, catch 22 and all that jazz
[16:07] <awilkins> Since our work laptops are so locked down we can't write to removable devices, this is in fact the only way to do it with work laptop
[16:07] <diddledan_> I like that the work laptop doesn't prevent you from booting random usbs tho
[16:08] <awilkins> The disk is encrypted with something proprietary so you can't really interfere with it
[16:08] <diddledan_> oh :-(
[16:08] <awilkins> Although I have accidentally blatted it's bootloader on occasion....
[16:08] <diddledan_> \o/
[16:09] <awilkins> .... the installer now very carefully prompts you for which disk it puts the bootloader on as a result.. :-)
[16:09] <shauno> well he seems to be getting somewhere.  he went quiet for 10 minutes, and came back with "what's the super key?"
[16:10] <diddledan_> hehe, love that linux renames the windows key
[16:10] <awilkins> That's because the new builds splat the shortcut thing into your face until you press super
[16:10] <awilkins> Which is a problem on my machine at home because it has an old-style Model M
[16:11] <awilkins> Still not found out how to remap capslock to another super on Trusty
[16:11] <shauno> I'm just entertainined because I live on the internet.  I don't get to observe 'noobs' in their natural habitat very often
[16:11] <awilkins> My upgraded boxes still have the setting in place but my fresh install doesn't and GNOME in their infinite wisdom have removed the panel that sets it
[16:11] <awilkins> I think that kind of attitude is rather dunderheaded, TBH
[16:12] <awilkins> On Windows : the answer may be obscure, if the feature is supported, but there is a panel to set it
[16:12] <awilkins> In GNOME : "What do you mean, it supports that feature, but they took out the GUI panel that lets you control it and I *might* be able to set it if I install this other thing....?"
[16:13] <bashrc> can you get ubuntu keys for model M's?
[16:13] <awilkins> bashrc, It has no keyswitch for it
[16:14] <bashrc> to replace the windoze keycap
[16:15] <awilkins> http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24622.0
[16:15] <awilkins> I've seen custom super keycaps but I don't know about for Model Ms
[16:16] <awilkins> Don't know if the Unicomp ones even support removable caps
[16:16] <bashrc> yes they do
[16:21] <shauno> I didn't think the model M had a windows key?
[16:22] <awilkins> Old ones don't
[16:22] <bashrc> the originals wouldn't have, but they're still made by Unicomp
[16:22] <awilkins> Unicomp make "new" ones
[16:22] <bashrc> with windows keys
[16:22] <awilkins> They use buckling-spring switches liek the old ones
[16:23] <awilkins> But are not as heavy, have USB plugs, etc
[16:23] <shauno> ah, gotcha
[16:23] <awilkins> I have one made in Scotland. From girders.
[16:23] <bashrc> I don't think there's much difference in weight.  They still have the metal backplate
[16:24] <awilkins> Still beat-your-boss-to-death and keep-on-coding capable?
[16:24] <awilkins> I use a Cherry at work
[16:24] <awilkins> It's marginally quieter
[16:24] <awilkins> Still has clickity switches though
[16:25] <awilkins> People generally know I'm on a conference call from home when they hear the sound of something like an M60 in the background
[16:25] <bashrc> terrorist target practice?
[16:26] <awilkins> Vim
[16:26] <awilkins> So, yeah.
[16:26] <bashrc> :)
[16:28] <shauno> I gotta admit I never got the attraction there. not my cuppa tea
[16:29] <bashrc> Vim or model Ms?
[16:30]  * awilkins is intensely fond of both
[16:30]  * bashrc is an Emacs user
[16:31] <awilkins> Emacs is of course the editor of people who like running one operating system inside another. And I don't mean in a VM.
[16:31] <diddledan_> I can do drive-by use of vim but haven't scratched the surface of it's capability
[16:31] <diddledan_> I tend to stick to nano
[16:31] <diddledan_> or a gui
[16:31] <awilkins> I feel like that regardless of how much I use Vim but nano irks me
[16:32] <shauno> I have an irrational hatred of nano :/
[16:32] <awilkins> And I tend to prefer GUI editors that have a Vim-ish keybinding
[16:32] <awilkins> Like Komodo Edit. Or Eclipse with a Vim plugin.
[16:32] <bashrc> org-mode is hard to beat
[16:32] <awilkins> Yeah, I like the sound of it
[16:33] <awilkins> I think I even installed Emacs to try it
[16:33] <shauno> I can't believe the hurd guys still haven't finished emacs' kernel yet
[16:33] <awilkins> And tried to find a Vim plugin for it
[16:34] <bashrc> I think there is a vim mode for Emacs.  have never used it though
[16:34] <bashrc> generally if you can htink of it then there's a mode for it
[16:35] <awilkins> Yup. You don't see people writing Emacs mode for other editors, but you do see Vim ones :P
[16:35] <shauno> I had an icq client than ran in emacs, way back in the dark ages
[16:35] <awilkins> Probably because there is no Emacs mode, it's all *you* mode in Emacs
[16:35] <bashrc> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/VimMode
[16:35] <awilkins> I tried to use Microemacs when I had an Amiga. It made my brain hurt.
[16:36] <shauno> hah, I still use memacs.  the trick is to ignore that it's trying to be emacs, and just mouse the menu
[16:36] <bashrc> I think Linus used microEmacs for a long time
[16:36] <awilkins> Vim makes my brain hurt also. But not my fingers.
[16:38] <awilkins> Linus : "emacs ..  is the tool of the devil"
[16:38] <awilkins> (quote lacking a little context...)
[16:38] <bashrc> :)
[16:38] <awilkins> He's saying that Full Fat Emacs is the tool of the devil, but he uses a shiny version of microemacs that has UTF-8 support so that's OK
[16:39] <bashrc> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/editors/uemacs/uemacs.git
[16:40] <awilkins> Oh wow... Vim... runs on Chrome : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vim/dhhoacdlegcbdglbfnhgnlchpkdlofkb
[16:40] <awilkins> Ah, but no storage and no running external tools
[16:40] <awilkins> So basically almost pointless
[16:42] <bashrc> wait.  you can run emacs-mode from within vim-mode from within Emacs?
[16:42] <awilkins> Is there an emacs-mode for Vim?
[16:42] <bashrc> I winder if that also supports vim-mode
[16:42] <shauno> interesting - I never even thought of running vim on the amiga, but apparently it exists
[16:43] <awilkins> Yup
[16:43] <awilkins> Because it's so nice and light you can run it on old antiquated buckets
[16:43] <shauno> buckets?!
[16:43] <bashrc> or dead badgers
[16:43] <awilkins> Amiga only got MicroEMACS though (was included with machine)
[16:44] <awilkins> I had an Amiga 500
[16:44] <awilkins> It got to the point where it would only work if you directed a hairdryer at a particular spot on the circuit board
[16:44] <shauno> my 1200 is sat at home paused half way through a game.  sometimes I wish it made noise so I'd remember to turn it off
[16:45] <bashrc> you probably didn't recite the correct incantation
[16:45] <awilkins> That was one thing about the computers of yesteryear... no thermal problems
[16:45] <awilkins> That Ubuntu Orange Box thing is all passive cooling apart from one case fan
[16:45] <awilkins> Might try and get my boss to shell out for one
[16:45] <bashrc> I have no thermal problems with the Cubieboard.  It runs almost cold
[16:46] <awilkins> The problem is then once we've created awesome cloudiness is getting it deployed to our server infrastructure
[16:46] <awilkins> Because our IT department would look at a Linux VM and go "Nuh?"
[16:49] <shauno> we have the opposite problem atm.  someone keeps getting excited about AWS, and we're struggling to stop them from doing something silly
[16:49] <bashrc> airraid warning system?
[16:50] <shauno> amazon's cloud wotsit
[16:50] <bashrc> oh
[16:51] <bashrc> surely the amazon cloud is only for businesses who want to have all of their data exfiltrated
[16:53]  * bashrc noticed the "economic" section of No Place to Hide
[16:55] <diddledan_> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/solar-roadways
[16:56]  * diddledan_ wanders off to find chocolate
[16:58] <bashrc> heard of that idea before.  It sounds good
[16:58] <awilkins> Yeah, if only they could produce costings
[16:58] <awilkins> But, iterative product design
[16:59] <awilkins> I paid £2700 to repave my drive
[16:59] <awilkins> If it cost £5000 to repave my drive with those solar hextiles, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
[16:59] <bashrc> the surface area of all roads and pavements must be massive
[17:01] <bashrc> if a tile lasted for a decade then it would probably pay for itself in electricity
[17:10] <shauno> unless you live in ireland.  then you'd just be day yoke with the blue driveway.
[17:10] <shauno> *dat
[18:56] <funkyHat> jussi: ⢁D
[19:12] <MartijnVdS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOd3lwluQIw
[20:33] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3ag8kdpcqyu7upj/AADDinSwK1S6_i33drXdJl5Ca
[20:33] <daftykins> some snaps of the fine weather at a couple of beaches today :)
[20:36] <MartijnVdS> looks good!
[20:37]  * diddledan_ zeroes in on the doggypics
[20:37] <daftykins> :D
[20:38] <daftykins> the forecast keeps saying it's only 15, but i'm sure it's higher
[20:38] <daftykins> 'cause it's already at that my-forehead-is-caked-in-sweat from cycling stage
[20:41] <daftykins> yay i got my new CD that's not scratched this time
[20:41] <diddledan_> \o/
[20:41] <daftykins> let's see how ripping fares this time
[20:41] <daftykins> still need to send the old'un back D:
[20:42] <daftykins> heh, i just zero'd the 2TB WD that was in my old array, that failed
[20:43] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/te1n97adzd5iupo/afterzero.png
[20:43] <daftykins> not as good as 2 million but definitely fubar \o/