[00:48] <ncfi1013> i dont know anything about programming
[00:49] <manchicken> Okay.
[00:49] <manchicken> You don't need to :)
[00:49] <ncfi1013> can anybody recommend a good place to start?
[00:49] <manchicken> Oh, well if that's what you want to know, it really depends on what you want to program.
[00:50] <manchicken> Programming is a rather diverse subject… though it may be better for #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <ncfi1013> linux network security...maybe?
[00:51] <manchicken> That's also rather broad.
[00:51] <manchicken> If you 're wanting to get into linux network security, you may be better off looking for a kernel hacker's channel.
[03:06] <sherli> bello
[03:06] <sherli> nobody?
[03:06] <sherli> damn it
[03:08] <tsimpson> patience is a virtue
[03:14] <smaug> Hey is anyone familiar with screen issues on a dell inspiron 1100 running kubuntu alone
[03:21] <valorie> hmmm
[03:21] <valorie> pff
[03:47] <mrweb20> Hey #kde. I'm on Kubuntu 14.04. Every time I set kickoff to NOT switch tabs on hover, it changes back after I restart my computer. Any suggestions?
[03:48] <mrweb20> Whoops! I meant #kubuntu hehe :)
[03:55] <mrweb20> Hey #kubuntu. I'm on Kubuntu 14.04. Every time I set kickoff to NOT switch tabs on hover, it changes back after I restart my computer. Any suggestions?
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[03:58] <unopaste> odsent you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
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[04:00] <unopaste> odsent you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:00] <unopaste> odsent you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:00] <tsimpson> odsent: don't
[04:01] <odsent> It's not supposed to be funny for you, it's supposed to be funny for me!
[05:01] <s000m225> msg/Abd_Allatif
[06:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:55] <alket> lordievader: Goor morning
[06:55] <lordievader> Hey alket, how are you?
[06:56] <alket> very good thanks , you ?
[06:57] <lordievader> Doing allright :)
[07:58] <anukul> 88
[07:59] <anukul> anyone here
[08:00] <hateball> 242, but the looks of things
[08:03] <lordievader> o/
[08:08] <anukul> what is IRC?
[08:09] <ikonia> this channel - this chat thing you're doing
[08:09] <ikonia> anukul: hello, you're chatting on IRC now
[08:48] <darklight_> lightdm does not run "display-setup-script"
[09:44] <ovidiu-florin> mornin'
[09:56] <Guest91666> Ciao
[09:56] <Jois> Ciao
[09:58] <anukul> evening
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:53] <ARand> How do I get a list of all the available channels?
[14:55] <Pici> ARand: Ubuntu related?
[14:55] <Pici> or just everything?
[14:59] <ARand> @Pici anything. This is my first day on the IRC so don't know much about it.
[15:00] <Pici> ARand: you can ask ALIS.
[15:00] <Pici> !alis
[15:05] <ARand> How do I search for a channel here?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> ARand, for a particular channel type /join #nameofchannel in the server textbox
[15:10] <ARand> Ok. Thanks. What if I just have a keyword in mind and not an exact name?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ARand, then use alis as Pici suggested
[15:31] <rberg_> hmm ksshaskpass seems to be in a crash loop.. signal aborted (6)
[15:59] <kaddi> hi guys, could someone of you help me with troubleshooting wifi?
[15:59] <kaddi> I have a dualboot, win8, ubuntu 14.04 and for some reason i don't undrstand i have perfect connectivity with windows but about 50% data loss, lags and disconnects with ubuntu
[15:59] <kaddi> the wifi is the same, i haven't moved the pc.. all i do is reboot between linux and windows
[16:00] <alket> do the Intel Graphics update work in Kubuntu ? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2014/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.5-linux
[16:00] <kaddi> half the time it'll time out the connection so i won't even really be able to connect to the network
[16:01] <kaddi> (and it's not the network,I've experienced the same issue at home before)
[16:51] <ZZRMike> I just upgraded to 14.04 and now I'm having issues with a java application using a TON of cpu, has anyone else had a similar issue?
[16:59] <TheFakeazneD525> ZZRMike: whut program
[16:59] <ZZRMike> PHPStorm
[17:00] <trinity_> Je voudrais installer un serveur mail. Mais je ne sais pas quelle logiciel prendre
[17:01] <BluesKaj> !fr | trinity_
[17:01] <trinity_> Thank You
[17:16] <kaddi> how cani disable the default network-manager to replace it with wicd?
[17:30] <ZZRMike> TheFakeazneD525: Any idea?
[17:32] <rberg_> Hi when doing nested raid levels is it possible to specify how the physical disks are laid out?
[17:32] <rberg_> doh
[17:33] <ikonia> nested raid levels ?
[17:33] <rberg_> what I meant to say before hitting the up arrow is.. has the java package changed? I mean are you using open jdk, oracle java, iced tea?
[17:34] <rberg_> nested raid levels like raid 60.. but I didnt mean to post there here
[17:35] <ikonia> thats not a nested raid
[17:35] <ikonia> the java packages have not changed
[17:35] <ikonia> to answer your real question
[17:36] <rberg_> that was to ZZRMike but he left while I was struggling to post heh
[17:37] <rberg_> anyways wikiwedia says that raid 60 is a nested raid level.. but I dont want to argue about it
[17:37] <ikonia> ahhh hybrid
[17:39] <bekkeri> anyone experience these symptoms after upgrade to trusty:
[17:39] <bekkeri> k-menu freezes, then the whole desktop, no shut down command, log out does nothing
[17:39] <ikonia> bekkeri: why don't you just tell us your problem
[17:39] <ikonia> rather than asking what others have/have not had
[17:40] <bekkeri> well that's just it
[17:40] <bekkeri> i really can't describe it better
[17:40] <bekkeri> i'd have googled it if i'd have thought of any good keywords
[17:40] <ikonia> does the keyboard still respond ?
[17:41] <ikonia> (eg: does the caps lock light go on/off when you press it)
[17:41] <bekkeri> yes, and some programs like kwrite do start
[17:41] <bekkeri> but not system settings
[17:41] <ikonia> so it sounds like the desktop componets rather than xorg are hanging/crashing
[17:41] <bekkeri> nor dolphin
[17:42] <bekkeri> yes, everything seems ok when i come to the desktop
[17:42] <rberg_> could be a disk freaking out.. anything loaded in ram will still work, anything needingto be read from disk will hang
[17:42] <bekkeri> fsck came out ok
[17:42] <ikonia> doesn't sounds like a disk as there would be seek errors
[17:42] <ikonia> rberg_: have a look in the syslog first of all for obvious stuff
[17:43] <rberg_> yeah that would leave a lof of messages in dmesg
[17:43] <ikonia> I didn't say dmesg
[17:43] <ikonia> I said the syslog
[17:44] <bekkeri> what's the best log file to look at
[17:44] <bekkeri> i haven't had to go to logs for ages
[17:45] <ikonia> for the third time the syslog
[17:45] <genii> bekkeri: As ikonia already indicated, /var/log/syslog
[17:45] <bekkeri> okay, as i said, the path was what i was after
[17:46] <ikonia> you didn't say you wanted the path
[17:46] <bekkeri> well, didnt say but anyway
[17:48] <bekkeri> nothing suspicious there, just Successfully activated service and subsequent informational messages
[17:51] <bekkeri> well, i found one thread on the ubuntu forums that pretty much describes my issues: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177541
[17:52] <bekkeri> no solution there, though
[17:52] <bekkeri> didn't try creating a new user yet
[18:25] <zorael> How do I get the project neon shell to correctly scan /opt/project-neon5/share/dbus-1 for dbus services? It can't find the kded5 service and freaks out
[20:01] <kubu2> hello
[20:02] <BluesKaj> hey
[20:03] <kubu2> Im having a little trouble with a new kubuntu install, accessing a drive on my host system. (kubuntu is in a virtualbox)
[20:03] <kubu2> It works beautifully in an Ubuntu box with KDE installed on top of Ubuntu
[20:04] <kubu2> but when I tried a straight Kubuntu install, this box won't let me in.
[20:05] <kubu2> Does anyone have any quick and dirty "you're doing somethuing stupid" andswers?
[20:06] <ikonia> won't let me in ?
[20:06] <ikonia> can you try to actuall describe the problem please and include any errors
[20:06] <ikonia> use a pastebin if you need to
[20:07] <kubu2> The error message it reports through dolphin is "Could not enter folder/media/sf_Music"
[20:08] <ikonia> kubu2: ok, so what happens if you try to enter it in  terminal
[20:08] <ikonia> what are the permissions on that folder ?
[20:09] <kubu2> through the terminal it just says "permission denied"
[20:12] <kubu2> User and group have full permissions, "others" don't
[20:13] <kubu2> If I change to root, I can enter in terminal
[20:13] <kubu2> I can ls the directory
[20:15] <ikonia> kubu2: what is the group/owner of the directory
[20:23] <kubu2> I tried chown -vhR kubu2:kubu2 /sf_Music. It reported everything had changed group and owner, but Dolphin doesn't show that it stuck, and reports root owns the directory and I still cannot enter
[20:24] <kubu2> I don't have a tremdous amount od linux experience, but I'm a former windows programmer, so I have some idea of what's going on. I just don't know the specifics of commands and such.
[20:26] <kubu2> No  one has any idea how to help me?
[20:26] <ikonia> you've not given me the information I've asked for
[20:26] <ikonia> and just done your own thing
[20:26] <ikonia> people can help you if you listen to them and give the information you're asked to provide
[20:26] <kubu2> I gave you the exact error message. What else can I do for you today?
[20:27] <ikonia> I asked you for the permissions
[20:27] <ikonia> you've failed to give them to me
[20:27] <kubu2> User and group have full permissions, "others" don't
[20:27] <kubu2> If I change to root, I can enter in terminal
[20:28] <ikonia> kubu2: please show me the output of ls -la on the directory
[20:28] <ikonia> use a pastebin if needed
[20:29] <kubu2> kubu2@kubu2-VBox:/media$ ls -la
[20:29] <kubu2> total 308
[20:29] <kubu2> drwxr-xr-x   6 root root     4096 May 16 14:30 .
[20:29] <kubu2> drwxr-xr-x  22 root root     4096 May 16 14:16 ..
[20:29] <kubu2> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root       45 May 16 14:11 .directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-media
[20:29] <kubu2> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root       42 May 16 14:11 .hidden -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-media
[20:29] <unopaste> kubu2 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:30] <ikonia> kubu2: that is root owned
[20:30] <ikonia> kubu2: only root has permissions to that
[20:31] <kubu2> Thank you. I have never used either -la or a pastebin before.
[20:34] <kubu2> Yes, I know. I changed to root and did chown, but it didn't stick
[20:42] <kubu2> See, ikonia, this is the problem:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7474888/
[20:44] <ikonia> kubu2: I'm not seeing a problem, sorry
[20:45] <kubu2> It's owned by root, I change ownership, it's still owned by root
[20:45] <ikonia> kubu2: can you show me the output of the command "mount" in a pastebin please
[20:45] <kubu2> I can't share it, either, even as root using sudo.
[20:45] <kubu2> coming right up
[20:47] <kubu2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7474911/
[20:48] <ikonia> kubu2: hte problem is  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7474911/
[20:48] <ikonia> oops
[20:48] <ikonia> kubu2: type vboxsf
[20:48] <ikonia> it' show vbox is sharing the file system to your guest
[20:48] <ikonia> kubu2: it's vbox virtual file system
[20:48] <ikonia> the guys in #vbox can explain how to use vbox properly, I'm not sharp enough on the gui/admin tool to do it from memory
[20:49] <kubu2> BUT - this is why it's weird - under Ubuntu with KDE installed ont top of it, it works perfectly.
[20:50] <ikonia> kubu2: you may have configured vbox differently
[20:50] <ikonia> I don't know
[20:50] <ikonia> but they can clarify for yo
[20:52] <kubu2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7474933/
[20:52] <ikonia> what's that ?
[20:52] <kubu2> I'll go bug the vboxx guys, but that's the pastebin from the mount command on the machinne it DOES work on
[20:52] <ikonia> are they both mounting it at the same time /
[20:53] <kubu2> I thought you might at least find something interesting
[20:53] <kubu2> No, I'm smarter thaan that!
[20:53] <kubu2> :_)
[20:53] <ikonia> so how are you showing me them both mounting it seconds apart ?
[20:54] <kubu2> Both machines are on teh same host. They boot and shut down quickly.
[20:54] <kubu2> But they run at different times, not together
[20:55] <ikonia> kubu2: check out the permissions on /media on the working machine
[20:55] <ikonia> see if it looks visually different
[20:55] <kubu2> I already thought of locking and conflict issues
[20:56] <kubu2> Do you mean "rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other"?
[20:56] <ikonia> no, I mean look at the file system permissions
[21:00] <jParkton> Is there a way to fix this stupid hotspot bug?
[21:00] <jParkton> I need my internet to work
[21:01] <ikonia> you've not given any information abou the problem
[21:01] <ikonia> so how do we know
[21:02] <jParkton> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?63908-WiFi-Hotspot-Complains-quot-No-secrets-were-provided-quot-After-13-04-gt-13-10-Upgrade
[21:02] <jParkton> Same problem
[21:02] <jParkton> I can provide other links
[21:02] <ikonia> just summerise
[21:02] <jParkton> my laptop is not the hotspot in this scenerio
[21:02] <ikonia> I won't want to read links
[21:03] <jParkton> that would make it tough to view pastebins
[21:04] <ikonia> i can view pastebins
[21:04] <ikonia> I just wanted a summary of the problme
[21:05] <jParkton> Wifi is not connecting
[21:05] <jParkton> complains of No secrets provided
[21:05] <jParkton> I can delete all networks and never reconnect
[21:05] <ikonia> is there a bug logged for it ?
[21:05] <ikonia> eg: is it a known issue
[21:05] <jParkton> I can also delete them all and login in another day
[21:05] <jParkton> Is there a way to fix this stupid hotspot bug?
[21:06] <ikonia> I have no idea whith that information
[21:06] <ikonia> is there a bug logged for it ?
[21:06] <jParkton> nope
[21:07] <jParkton> so create a bug
[21:07] <jParkton> anything I can do to fix my issue now
[21:07] <jParkton> not wait 16 months for a bug tracker
[21:07] <ikonia> I have pretty much no information to work with
[21:07] <ikonia> I asked about a bug to see if it was a known problem
[21:07] <jParkton> ah
[21:08] <ikonia> if people where working on it already, it's good to check the status
[21:08] <jParkton> it is
[21:08] <boo1> :-)
[21:08] <ikonia> (before rushing in blind)
[21:08] <jParkton> but that does not get me connected
[21:08] <jParkton> it ALSO does not help me if they fix it since I cannot connect
[21:08] <jParkton> correct?
[21:08] <ikonia> incorrect
[21:08] <jParkton> so I can download the fix automagically?
[21:09] <ikonia> there is no bug logged, so there will be no fix to download
[21:09] <jParkton> without an internet connection?
[21:09] <jParkton>  <ikonia> if people where working on it already, it's good to check the status
[21:09] <jParkton> ^^ that is making a hypothetical assuming there is one
[21:09] <ikonia> no it's not
[21:09] <ikonia> I asked you if there was a bug
[21:09] <jParkton> so how did your hypothetical turn into my incorrect?
[21:09] <ikonia> I didn't make any assumptions, I asked
[21:10] <jParkton> thats true
[21:10] <ikonia> I asked becuase I don't know, and I wondered if you knew as you are the one who has the problem and may have looked it up
[21:10] <jParkton> so how do I fix it
[21:10] <jParkton> it connects one day and then disconnects and will not reconnect
[21:10] <jParkton> I can connect it and then it disconnects and asks for the password numerous times
[21:11] <ikonia> I have no idea, as I have no information on the bug
[21:11] <jParkton> I put in the correct password and it is rejected multiple times
[21:11] <jParkton> I log out then log back in sometimes it connects sometimes not
[21:11] <jParkton> it is not a bug
[21:11] <jParkton> lets take it from there
[21:11] <ikonia> oh, it's expected behaviour then ?
[21:11] <jParkton> no known bug I am the first user to ever have this problem
[21:11] <ikonia> ok, so log a bug with the details in then
[21:11] <jParkton> what steps can I take now to diagnose this issue
[21:11] <ikonia> that's the starting point
[21:12] <jParkton> ok done
[21:12] <jParkton> step two?
[21:12] <ikonia> what's the bug reference
[21:12] <ikonia> (bug id)
[21:12] <jParkton> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310564
[21:12] <jParkton> ok what next
[21:13] <ikonia> jParkton: that's over a year old
[21:13] <ikonia> and in kde - not kubuntu
[21:13] <ikonia> and the fedora packages
[21:13] <jParkton> ahh
[21:13] <ikonia> so you've not logged a bug
[21:13] <jParkton> ok so what can I do locally to resolve this
[21:13] <ikonia> and at that point I'll park this
[21:13] <jParkton> bug ID is non local
[21:13] <ikonia> not really interested in being messed around
[21:13] <jParkton> me either
[21:14] <jParkton> but you didnt ask anything helpful lol
[21:14] <jParkton> so thanks for the non help?
[21:14] <jParkton> http://askubuntu.com/questions/361495/kubuntu-13-10-wifi-doesnt-work-dhcp-timeout
[21:14] <jParkton> also that one but it is dhcp not my issue
[21:14] <jParkton> and ubuntu
[21:15] <jParkton> not kubuntu
[21:15] <kubu2> ikonia -  'sudo usermod -aG vboxsf kubu2' fixed it.
[21:15] <jParkton> anyone who knows what to do around?
[21:15] <ikonia> kubu2: ahhh excellent
[21:15] <ikonia> kubu2: so it needed to be a member of the vboxsf group
[21:15] <ikonia> kubu2: well done
[21:16] <kubu2> I didn't do it.... WeblionX over on #vbox did. But it's done. Thanks!
[21:16] <jParkton> I cannot report the bug can anyone help
[21:19] <jParkton> Can anyone help me
[21:19] <jParkton> How do I diagnose it
[21:19] <jParkton> Can anyone help me
[21:19] <jParkton> what do I need to include
[21:19] <jParkton> Can anyone help me
[21:19] <jParkton> why have a fuckin channel for non support
[21:19] <jParkton> stupid
[21:19] <ikonia> there is no need for bad language
[21:20] <ikonia> please stop with the bad language, it's not welcome
[21:20] <jParkton> this has been since day one of install
[21:20] <jParkton> can anyone help
[21:20] <jParkton> can anyone help
[21:20] <jParkton> can anyone help
[21:20] <jParkton> lol
[21:20] <ikonia> please don't spam
[21:20] <ikonia> just ask, wait, refresh
[21:20] <jParkton> I did
[21:20] <jParkton> no one responded
[21:21] <ikonia> try to wait a reasonable time
[21:21] <jParkton> can anyone help
[21:21] <jParkton> it works periodically
[21:21] <jParkton> it is incorrectly working so not a bug per se
[21:21] <jParkton> can anyone assist
[21:21] <jParkton> reasonable in my world is instant
[21:21] <jParkton> I am sorry you are slower than that
[21:21] <jParkton> lol
[21:21] <ikonia> ok, then deal with the rest of the world - not your world
[21:21] <ikonia> say 15 - 20 minutes before asking
[21:21] <jParkton> no thanks
[21:21] <ikonia> or if a considerable ammount of new users join, so they see the question too
[21:22] <jParkton> does anyone else have the same issue?
[21:22] <jParkton> I know one did a few days ago
[21:23] <jParkton> Anyone have a fix for the Wifi hotspot issue in Kubuntu
[21:24] <jParkton> Anyone have a fix for the Wifi hotspot issue in Kubuntu
[21:24] <ikonia> please stop asking every 15 seconds
[21:24] <ikonia> leave it 15/20 minutes
[21:24] <ikonia> there is no-one new in the channel,
[21:24] <ikonia> let some new people join, / leave it 15-20 minutes
[21:25] <jParkton> Thanks dad
[21:25] <jParkton> I will take it into consideration
[21:25] <ikonia> and please drop the smart answers,
[21:25] <ikonia> there is no need for it
[21:25] <jParkton> wtf ever
[21:25] <jParkton> eat a peanut log
[21:25] <ikonia> now you can't talk
[21:30] <Reveen> bye
[22:09] <hardik_> hiiiii
[22:09] <hardik_> hi,  i am cs student and i want to prticipate in kde  sok and contribute in kde  Artikulate  so help me to where do i start from.
[22:53] <apb1963> from time to time my mouse stops working... it disappears from the screen.  If I switch VT's and screens back and forth enough times, it eventually comes back.  Any ideas on this? kubuntu 12.04