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Laneyhowdy08:03
Laneyhappy friday!08:03
mvohappy friday Laney08:04
mvoand good morning seb12808:04
Laneyhey mvo08:06
Laneyhow's it going?08:06
Laneystill enjoying being back? ;-)08:06
didrockshey Laney, morning mvo08:06
mvonot too bad, sunny here and I have a cup of tea, what more to wish for?08:06
mvohey didrocks08:06
Laneylut didrocks08:06
seb128good morning desktopers!08:08
seb128hey Laney didrocks mvo08:08
didrockshey seb128!08:08
Laneyhey hey hey08:10
czajkowskiGooood morning folks08:37
seb128czajkowski, hey, how are you?08:44
czajkowskiGood thanks working away in Budapest. just had a random person walk up and say he uses Ubuntu and loves it08:44
czajkowskiso nice to see random people using it :)08:44
seb128nice ;-)08:44
pittibonjour seb12808:44
pittihey czajkowski08:44
seb128pitti, salut, ça va ? joyeux vendredi !08:44
pittiseb128: à toi aussi, merci !08:44
seb128'ci ;-)08:44
czajkowskipitti: Salut!08:44
czajkowskivery much Joyeux Vendredi!08:44
seb128czajkowski, do you have a conference in Budapest? or just travelling for fun? ;-)08:44
czajkowskiseb128: running community events, so was in Vienna Monday, Istanbul Tuesday, Budapest last night and here till Sunday till I head to Vilnius08:44
czajkowskiMay is a tad busy :)08:45
seb128nice, but a bit crazy at the same time!08:45
seb128you are not too tired by eow?08:45
seb128well, at least you can settle down for the W.E, and Budapest is nice ;-)08:45
didrockswaow, czajkowski is accumulating miles ;)08:46
czajkowskitoday I've a backlog of mail as was on hols  the previous week, but starting a new thing on a friday, no meetings and no mails, and working on a project so tat'll be nice08:46
czajkowski*that'll08:46
czajkowskiJuly and August is dead :)08:46
czajkowskiyay for Europe shutting down !08:46
seb128lol08:47
seb128you can go to summer vacation places and do community work there ;-)08:47
czajkowskiI know :D08:47
czajkowskihad to be some benefit!08:47
sabdflhi folks10:22
sabdfl[104456.655422] systemd-hostnamed[20855]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!10:22
sabdflpor que?10:22
seb128sabdfl, hey10:24
seb128sabdfl, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-myhostname/+bug/116247810:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1162478 in libnss-myhostname (Ubuntu) "[FFe] [MIR] libnss-myhostname" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:24
sabdfltak seb12810:25
seb128sabdfl, basically there is disagreement on nss-myhostname being the right solution but nobody had slot to work on an alternative/a better solution10:25
seb128sabdfl, see e.g comment #6 from Steve10:26
seb128yw ;-)10:26
darkxstsabdfl, seb128, right we depend on that in ubuntu GNOME, but I am not even sure its the right solution!10:42
xnoxdarkxst: reading the bug report, it sounds like in debian/ubuntu we should patch hostnamectl to not hard depend on libnss-myhostname, and able to just update hostname in "the debian-normal" way.10:43
darkxstxnox, yes exactly, those bugs date back a while10:44
darkxstI guess these integration issues need to improve as we move towards systemd!10:45
seb128well, we are already using the system utilities for some cycles10:46
seb128changing init system doesn't make a difference there10:46
darkxstseb128, that bug predates that though10:47
darkxstI think?10:47
seb128no10:47
seb128the warning is one from systemd-hostnamed10:47
seb128there wouldn't be a warning if systemd-services was not in us10:47
seb128use10:47
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seb128Laney, do you know if, with your script, the iso build relying on the arch of the machine that runs the build?11:04
Laneyyeah you have to build the livefs on the right arch11:05
Laneythat's why we have buildds for the cd images11:05
seb128k11:05
seb128do you have an amd64 iso? any chance you could put it online somewhere I can download it? ;-)11:05
Laneyokay11:05
seb128that stupid uefi machine refuses to boot 32 bits11:05
seb128and mir fails to start with some EGL errors on my dell mini11:06
seb128doh11:06
Laneyit doesn't have lightdm, but you should be able to manually install stuff11:06
seb128Laney, in fact don't bother, my test laptop run 64 bits trusty11:06
seb128I can run the build script there11:06
seb128yeah, I just did that on my dell mini11:06
Laneyk11:06
seb128now I get a cursor and nothing else11:06
seb128but the unity8-mir log has elg errors11:07
seb128which would be just that Mir doesn't like the hardware11:07
seb128I know it runs on the inspiron 1111:07
* seb128 starts a build and go for lunch meanwhile11:07
seb128Laney, thanks11:07
Laneyhmm11:07
Laneyis it only going to work on quite limited hardware?11:07
seb128I don't know11:07
seb128but I want to rule out an hardware support issue11:08
seb128Mir runs fine on my installed system on the inspiron 1111:08
seb128so I want to make the iso work here11:08
Laneynod11:08
seb128(if I get the same EGL error at least it's sign there is another problem than hardware support)11:08
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seb128Laney, you can add "dpkg-dev" to the list of packages to install in your build iso script  (I had to install that on my stock install from my test box)13:21
Laneyseb128: you mean in the comment?14:01
seb128Laney, yes14:02
Laneyok14:04
seb128thanks14:04
Laneythere you go14:05
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Laneyseb128: I'm merging the seed into the main touch one as discussed on the ml15:44
Laneyso make changes there from now on15:44
seb128Laney, ok, did you add lightdm?15:44
Laneywill do15:44
seb128I hate technology today, or tech hates me, not sure yet15:44
seb128the 64 bits iso is not seen by the inspiron 1115:44
seb128I wonder if the uefi doesn't consider it a valid image15:45
Laneythere's a chance some special uefi stuff might not be done by that script15:45
Laneyif you can turn it off i'd try that15:45
seb128right15:45
seb128no I can't15:45
seb128I disabled the secure boot or whatever15:45
seb128it already did the same by then the first time I tried to install a 32 bits iso15:45
seb128(I did that without thinking, that's what I've on my box since that's a 32 bits install and vms need to match)15:46
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Laneyseb128: might be easiest to ask cjwatson what we might be missing15:59
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seb128Laney, yeah, I'm going to test the stick on my laptop in a bit16:00
seb128need to close IRC first for that though :p16:00
seb128Laney, ok, so key works, and once lightdm is installed, "sudo start lightdm" gives a working unity8/mir session with sidestage, working settings, etc16:18
seb128so some issues there16:18
seb128- the iso is not uefi compliant16:18
seb128- Mir doesn't work on the dell mini for some reason16:18
LaneyLet's see if uefi works once it's built normally16:19
LaneyI bet there's some magic there16:19
Laneylike I see grub-efi in the ship-live seed and I have no idea how that gets on the iso but it's not mentioned in my log16:19
seb128right16:20
seb128well at least with lightdm on we have a working iso16:20
Laneygood enough as a start16:20
LaneyI'll start by uploading ubuntu-touch-meta to add this16:22
Laneyogra_: ^ fyi, don't have a heart attack when you see this ;)16:22
seb128yes16:22
seb128thanks16:22
ogra_Laney, heh, i wont16:22
ogra_Laney, that might break terh emulator though16:23
Laneyit's a new binary16:23
Laneywon't affect existing things unless they do something weird16:23
ogra_ah, ok16:23
Laneylike 'install all packages from this source'16:23
* didrocks notices Laney take care of ogra_'s heart16:23
ogra_completely new seed bit then16:23
didrockslike for an old old man :)16:23
ogra_i *am* an old man !16:23
Laneyyeah it's like my mum's cat16:24
* ogra_ shakes his cane16:24
Laneyno sudden movements or loud noises16:24
didrocksogra_: I was going to offer you a cane :p16:24
Laneyhair starts falling out, etc16:24
didrocksahah16:24
ogra_... it starts and ends with diapers16:25
* Laney gives ogra a nice can of tuna and a bowl of milk16:26
ogra_*omnomnom*16:26
ogra_*MEOW!!*16:27
didrockstuna and milk? that sounds like english food :p16:27
Laneyit's up16:34
Laneynow for livecd-rootfs16:34
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Laneyalright17:22
Laneyhave a good weekend desktoppers17:22
seb128Laney, thanks, you too!17:49
seb128same to everyone17:49
seb128see you monday17:49
seb128+on17:50
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