[08:03] <Laney> howdy
[08:03] <Laney> happy friday!
[08:04] <mvo> happy friday Laney
[08:04] <mvo> and good morning seb128
[08:06] <Laney> hey mvo
[08:06] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:06] <Laney> still enjoying being back? ;-)
[08:06] <didrocks> hey Laney, morning mvo
[08:06] <mvo> not too bad, sunny here and I have a cup of tea, what more to wish for?
[08:06] <mvo> hey didrocks
[08:06] <Laney> lut didrocks
[08:08] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:08] <seb128> hey Laney didrocks mvo
[08:08] <didrocks> hey seb128!
[08:10] <Laney> hey hey hey
[08:37] <czajkowski> Gooood morning folks
[08:44] <seb128> czajkowski, hey, how are you?
[08:44] <czajkowski> Good thanks working away in Budapest. just had a random person walk up and say he uses Ubuntu and loves it
[08:44] <czajkowski> so nice to see random people using it :)
[08:44] <seb128> nice ;-)
[08:44] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[08:44] <pitti> hey czajkowski
[08:44] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va ? joyeux vendredi !
[08:44] <pitti> seb128: à toi aussi, merci !
[08:44] <seb128> 'ci ;-)
[08:44] <czajkowski> pitti: Salut!
[08:44] <czajkowski> very much Joyeux Vendredi!
[08:44] <seb128> czajkowski, do you have a conference in Budapest? or just travelling for fun? ;-)
[08:44] <czajkowski> seb128: running community events, so was in Vienna Monday, Istanbul Tuesday, Budapest last night and here till Sunday till I head to Vilnius
[08:45] <czajkowski> May is a tad busy :)
[08:45] <seb128> nice, but a bit crazy at the same time!
[08:45] <seb128> you are not too tired by eow?
[08:45] <seb128> well, at least you can settle down for the W.E, and Budapest is nice ;-)
[08:46] <didrocks> waow, czajkowski is accumulating miles ;)
[08:46] <czajkowski> today I've a backlog of mail as was on hols  the previous week, but starting a new thing on a friday, no meetings and no mails, and working on a project so tat'll be nice
[08:46] <czajkowski> *that'll
[08:46] <czajkowski> July and August is dead :)
[08:46] <czajkowski> yay for Europe shutting down !
[08:47] <seb128> lol
[08:47] <seb128> you can go to summer vacation places and do community work there ;-)
[08:47] <czajkowski> I know :D
[08:47] <czajkowski> had to be some benefit!
[10:22] <sabdfl> hi folks
[10:22] <sabdfl> [104456.655422] systemd-hostnamed[20855]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[10:22] <sabdfl> por que?
[10:24] <seb128> sabdfl, hey
[10:24] <seb128> sabdfl, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-myhostname/+bug/1162478
[10:25] <sabdfl> tak seb128
[10:25] <seb128> sabdfl, basically there is disagreement on nss-myhostname being the right solution but nobody had slot to work on an alternative/a better solution
[10:26] <seb128> sabdfl, see e.g comment #6 from Steve
[10:26] <seb128> yw ;-)
[10:42] <darkxst> sabdfl, seb128, right we depend on that in ubuntu GNOME, but I am not even sure its the right solution!
[10:43] <xnox> darkxst: reading the bug report, it sounds like in debian/ubuntu we should patch hostnamectl to not hard depend on libnss-myhostname, and able to just update hostname in "the debian-normal" way.
[10:44] <darkxst> xnox, yes exactly, those bugs date back a while
[10:45] <darkxst> I guess these integration issues need to improve as we move towards systemd!
[10:46] <seb128> well, we are already using the system utilities for some cycles
[10:46] <seb128> changing init system doesn't make a difference there
[10:47] <darkxst> seb128, that bug predates that though
[10:47] <darkxst> I think?
[10:47] <seb128> no
[10:47] <seb128> the warning is one from systemd-hostnamed
[10:47] <seb128> there wouldn't be a warning if systemd-services was not in us
[10:47] <seb128> use
[11:04] <seb128> Laney, do you know if, with your script, the iso build relying on the arch of the machine that runs the build?
[11:05] <Laney> yeah you have to build the livefs on the right arch
[11:05] <Laney> that's why we have buildds for the cd images
[11:05] <seb128> k
[11:05] <seb128> do you have an amd64 iso? any chance you could put it online somewhere I can download it? ;-)
[11:05] <Laney> okay
[11:05] <seb128> that stupid uefi machine refuses to boot 32 bits
[11:06] <seb128> and mir fails to start with some EGL errors on my dell mini
[11:06] <seb128> doh
[11:06] <Laney> it doesn't have lightdm, but you should be able to manually install stuff
[11:06] <seb128> Laney, in fact don't bother, my test laptop run 64 bits trusty
[11:06] <seb128> I can run the build script there
[11:06] <seb128> yeah, I just did that on my dell mini
[11:06] <Laney> k
[11:06] <seb128> now I get a cursor and nothing else
[11:07] <seb128> but the unity8-mir log has elg errors
[11:07] <seb128> which would be just that Mir doesn't like the hardware
[11:07] <seb128> I know it runs on the inspiron 11
[11:07]  * seb128 starts a build and go for lunch meanwhile
[11:07] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[11:07] <Laney> hmm
[11:07] <Laney> is it only going to work on quite limited hardware?
[11:07] <seb128> I don't know
[11:08] <seb128> but I want to rule out an hardware support issue
[11:08] <seb128> Mir runs fine on my installed system on the inspiron 11
[11:08] <seb128> so I want to make the iso work here
[11:08] <Laney> nod
[11:08] <seb128> (if I get the same EGL error at least it's sign there is another problem than hardware support)
[13:21] <seb128> Laney, you can add "dpkg-dev" to the list of packages to install in your build iso script  (I had to install that on my stock install from my test box)
[14:01] <Laney> seb128: you mean in the comment?
[14:02] <seb128> Laney, yes
[14:04] <Laney> ok
[14:04] <seb128> thanks
[14:05] <Laney> there you go
[15:44] <Laney> seb128: I'm merging the seed into the main touch one as discussed on the ml
[15:44] <Laney> so make changes there from now on
[15:44] <seb128> Laney, ok, did you add lightdm?
[15:44] <Laney> will do
[15:44] <seb128> I hate technology today, or tech hates me, not sure yet
[15:44] <seb128> the 64 bits iso is not seen by the inspiron 11
[15:45] <seb128> I wonder if the uefi doesn't consider it a valid image
[15:45] <Laney> there's a chance some special uefi stuff might not be done by that script
[15:45] <Laney> if you can turn it off i'd try that
[15:45] <seb128> right
[15:45] <seb128> no I can't
[15:45] <seb128> I disabled the secure boot or whatever
[15:45] <seb128> it already did the same by then the first time I tried to install a 32 bits iso
[15:46] <seb128> (I did that without thinking, that's what I've on my box since that's a 32 bits install and vms need to match)
[15:59] <Laney> seb128: might be easiest to ask cjwatson what we might be missing
[16:00] <seb128> Laney, yeah, I'm going to test the stick on my laptop in a bit
[16:00] <seb128> need to close IRC first for that though :p
[16:18] <seb128> Laney, ok, so key works, and once lightdm is installed, "sudo start lightdm" gives a working unity8/mir session with sidestage, working settings, etc
[16:18] <seb128> so some issues there
[16:18] <seb128> - the iso is not uefi compliant
[16:18] <seb128> - Mir doesn't work on the dell mini for some reason
[16:19] <Laney> Let's see if uefi works once it's built normally
[16:19] <Laney> I bet there's some magic there
[16:19] <Laney> like I see grub-efi in the ship-live seed and I have no idea how that gets on the iso but it's not mentioned in my log
[16:20] <seb128> right
[16:20] <seb128> well at least with lightdm on we have a working iso
[16:20] <Laney> good enough as a start
[16:22] <Laney> I'll start by uploading ubuntu-touch-meta to add this
[16:22] <Laney> ogra_: ^ fyi, don't have a heart attack when you see this ;)
[16:22] <seb128> yes
[16:22] <seb128> thanks
[16:22] <ogra_> Laney, heh, i wont
[16:23] <ogra_> Laney, that might break terh emulator though
[16:23] <Laney> it's a new binary
[16:23] <Laney> won't affect existing things unless they do something weird
[16:23] <ogra_> ah, ok
[16:23] <Laney> like 'install all packages from this source'
[16:23]  * didrocks notices Laney take care of ogra_'s heart
[16:23] <ogra_> completely new seed bit then
[16:23] <didrocks> like for an old old man :)
[16:23] <ogra_> i *am* an old man !
[16:24] <Laney> yeah it's like my mum's cat
[16:24]  * ogra_ shakes his cane
[16:24] <Laney> no sudden movements or loud noises
[16:24] <didrocks> ogra_: I was going to offer you a cane :p
[16:24] <Laney> hair starts falling out, etc
[16:24] <didrocks> ahah
[16:25] <ogra_> ... it starts and ends with diapers
[16:26]  * Laney gives ogra a nice can of tuna and a bowl of milk
[16:26] <ogra_> *omnomnom*
[16:27] <ogra_> *MEOW!!*
[16:27] <didrocks> tuna and milk? that sounds like english food :p
[16:34] <Laney> it's up
[16:34] <Laney> now for livecd-rootfs
[17:22] <Laney> alright
[17:22] <Laney> have a good weekend desktoppers
[17:49] <seb128> Laney, thanks, you too!
[17:49] <seb128> same to everyone
[17:49] <seb128> see you monday
[17:50] <seb128> +on