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rtgtseliot, how are nvidia and fglrx dkms packages coming along for 3.15 support ? It is time to get 3.15 into the wild.12:29
apwhenrix, the cve tracker may be in a heap right now, quantal just got zapped, so ignore it for the near term, will let you know when its all happy13:01
henrixapw: ack, thanks13:01
tseliotrtg: I fixed nvidia-304. the other nvidia drivers (except for 173) should work. fglrx should also work (although I haven't tested it yet)13:26
rtgtseliot, cool, then I'll get it uploaded to the utopic archive13:27
tseliotgood13:27
rtgapw, ^^ do you agree ?13:27
apwrtg, if the nvidia, fgrlx, wl and iscsitarget are there, i think we have our "core set"13:27
apw(and i beleive that we do indeed)13:28
rtgapw, I believe infinity said we should upload the first time as opposed to doing a pocket copy.13:28
apwrtg, i'd say do that anyhow as it makes the overrides work right13:29
rtgapw, yup.13:29
apwassuming it has a release tracker in it :)13:30
rtgapw, :) yeah, I'll get it wrapped and uploaded, then babysit it all weekend.13:30
apwheh :)  no snow then ?13:30
rtgapw, driving to Beaverton this afternoon. 11+ hours.13:31
apwi wish my afternoons were 11 hours long sometime [sic]13:31
rtgapw, I might get another day or so of back country in before mid-July. There are some north facing steep gnarly chutes that hold snow until late in the summer.13:33
apwsnow in july, does-not-compute, i am used to the kind which is "no snow by mid afternoon" kind13:33
rtgOne called "pencil dick" is truly terrifying. thats this one: linux.tpi.com/~rtg/bridger-bowl-Apr-29-2014/IMGP0021.JPG_index.html13:34
apwrtg you are insane, truly13:37
rtgapw, well, thats not my track in it :)13:37
apwrtg, gads it actually has a ski track down it, *gibber*13:38
rtgapw, we'd likely have done it that day, but its a fair walk/climb and we were getting short on time.13:39
rtgit had an unusual amount of snow, but we are at 150% of snow pack for the year.13:39
rtgapw, pushed utopic master-next, starting test build. I didn't bump the ABI since everything was packaging except for CONFIG_FSL_PAMU=n 13:45
apwrtg, also the only people with it are you and me; and if we can't cope with that ... shoot us now13:46
rtgapw, isn't the CONFIG_FSL_PAMU=n patch for powerpc ? I ain't got one 'o dose.13:47
apwrtg, yeah i think so, i meant to say, we don't care if it is a bumper or not, noone has the old -1 in the wild so a new -1 is just fine; though it prolly isn't a bumper anyhow13:48
apwmight be nice to bump the upload number so we get upgraded13:49
apw(but i am sure you were going to do that anyhoo)13:49
rtgapw, Ubuntu-3.15.0-1.3 is an upload number bump13:49
apwhenrix, ok the cve tracker seems to have healed itself13:50
apwrtg, cool, that'll do it in deed13:50
henrixapw: indeed! thanks13:50
spideymanjsalisbury Hi, for CVE-2014-0196, which precise kernel will contain the fix? I want to be sure I have the right one16:27
jsalisburyspideyman, let me double check16:28
spideymanjsalisbury thanks so much16:28
rtgapw, fire in the hole16:28
apwrtg, ack ... will keep a weather eye out for it migrating :)16:28
jsalisburyspideyman, 3.2.0-63.9416:29
spideymanjsalisbury awesome, thx again16:30
infinityzequence: Everything got respun for a 1-line revert. :/18:42
infinityzequence: Do you have time to do the quick rebase?18:42
zequenceinfinity: Ah, sure. np19:23
infinityzequence: You rock.19:24
infinityBenC: Out of curiosity, did you verify that pulling in grub-ieee1275 on your systems doesn't flip out due to the lack of a PReP partition?20:18
BenCinfinity: Yep. We’ve actually been running with that on our system since day 120:27
infinityBenC: Ahh, cool.  Just wanted to make sure.  So, grub-install is basically just a no-op on your systems?20:28
BenCJust to generate grub.cfg. grub-common could do it alone, but we don’t get all the snazzy “Ubuntu XXX” naming, it would just say “Linux xxx”20:28
BenCinfinity: Well, grub-install wouldn’t work…if it makes more sense, then at the least, grub-common is needed, but grub-ieee1275 includes all the extra naming (we just need update-grub run to generate grub-cfg)20:29
BenC*grub.cfg20:29
infinityThough, there could be an argument for wasting a few MB for a useless PReP partition anyway, so your filesystem is also bootable (well, with a different kernel) in qemu/slof.20:29
BenCWell, grub-ieee1275 has zz-update-grub for kernel post inst/rm20:30
infinityBenC: I'm sure grub-install won't work, my point was that I hope it doesn't also FAIL, cause then you've just broken the kernel upgrade. :)20:30
BenCinfinity: If we’re just talking about installing kernels, then no problems there at all20:30
infinityBut hopefully the platform detection stuff just sees yours as one it knows nothing about and skips along.20:31
BenCgrub-install doesn’t run for that20:31
BenCInstalled-Size: 18620:32
BenCIt’s pretty small20:32
infinityBenC: It runs in grub-ieee1275.postinst and you've made the kernels depend on that.  That's what I'm driving at.20:32
infinityBenC: But if you've not seen it explode, then we must have (accidentally?) gotten the detection, or lack thereof, right. ;)20:32
BenCgrub-ieee1275 has never failed to install or upgrade on our system, so I suspect it’s all fine :)20:32
infinity\o/20:33
infinityBenC: On a not entirely related matter, when you do qemu/kvm on your machines, do you emulate pSeries with SLOF and, confusingly, an FSL CPU, or do you emulate some sort of FSL platform?20:34
infinity(And, if the latter, how does that boot?)20:34
BenCFLS platform (e500-generic, uses host cpu detection)20:34
infinityBenC: Maybe I should get you to send me one of your 64-bit systems sometime, so I can ask these questions from the hardware. :P20:35
BenCYou can either boot a vmlinux/initrd directly, or use our platform kernel+initrd to boot the same way the native hardware boots (with grub)20:35
BenCWe suggest the later and it works just like the grub on kvm x86 systems20:36
BenC*latter20:36
BenCIOW, you can boot the kernel+initrd on your system rather than a hard passed one on the command line20:36
BenCs/on your system/on your disk image/20:37
infinityRighto.  That's what I prefer too.  Was just curious where the firmware comes from.  I guess you ship that outside the archive.20:38
infinity(For pSeries, it uses qemu-slof, which is in the archive, though qemu doesn't currently depend on it, which is a mistake)20:38
infinityOr does it pull some tricks to actually read it from the host system's firmware and reuse it without needing a copy in the filesystem?20:39
infinityWhich would be somewhere between clever and awful, and probably both.20:39
BenCIt requires you to download them from our public archive20:40
BenCMaybe one day we’ll be that clever :)20:40
infinityBenC: I suspect that would tip closer to "awful" than "clever", but certainly shipping your "firmware" in the archive might be nice.20:48
infinityBenC: Probably moot, though, I imagine your customers can figure it out.20:49

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