[01:23] <dobey> cwayne: aww now i can't reply on the post. but "Home ownership gets out of hand fast. ;)"
[01:23] <cwayne> hah :)
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> tail -f /var/log/syslog is pretty interesting from ubuntu touch :p
[04:46] <bact> interesting how?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> seeing realtime probs
[06:44] <FloatingGoat> Can I fetch my android files from ubuntu touch when dual booting?
[07:09] <Overlordz> cheeseburger
[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Endangered Species Day! :-D
[08:52] <Mirv> mzanetti: are you testing/landing silo 005 today?
[09:22] <mzanetti> Mirv: yes, I will
[09:31] <ogra_> hmpf
[09:31] <ogra_> so the front page of system-settings shows one update ... tapping on it it says software is up to date
[09:32] <ogra_> hmm, closing the app and restarting it fixes it
[09:42] <Mirv> mzanetti: excellent. I'll just need to rebuild unity8 after it has landed
[09:42] <mzanetti> Mirv: should I ping you once its landed?
[09:43] <Mirv> mzanetti: yes please, although if I'm around I'll probably notice it anyhow
[09:43] <mzanetti> ok. I will
[10:18] <mandel> ogra_, is there any documentation of the steps to follow to generate an ubuntu touch image? I'd like to have an image with my own platform api for testing
[10:19] <ogra_> mandel, bzr branch lp:project-rootstock-ng ... there is a build script inside that branch mimicing an image build ... note that it takes a long time to build 2h or so ...
[10:19] <ogra_> it has options to inject your own packages or a PPA
[10:21] <mandel> ogra_, awesome, is exactly what I needed
[10:28] <ogra_> mandel, oh, there are issues with installing ppackages in chroots ... (i totally forgot) all image builds fail until sysvinit  2.88dsf-41ubuntu12 moved to the main archive
[10:28] <ogra_> mandel, so better wait for that
[10:28] <ogra_> ("rmadison sysvinit" will tell you about the status ... it still sits in -proposed i think)
[10:30] <mandel> ogra_, ok, I'll be doing some maintenance work on udm while I wait, adding symbols and stuff like that so that people are free to use the client lib
[10:30] <ogra_> :)
[10:54] <mandel> ogra_, can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/add-symbols/+merge/219810  I believe you are wisher in deb packages than I am :)
[10:56] <mandel> ogra_, I'm not sure if it is the right way to export the symbols in cpp
[10:59] <mhr3> mandel, what's the tool that you used?
[10:59] <mandel> mhr3, dpkg-gensymbols but I'm not sure if I have to pass a special parameter for cpp
[10:59] <mhr3> i mean it's horrible, but i didn't know about it :)
[10:59] <mandel> mhr3, that looks very ugly
[10:59] <mhr3> oh really?
[10:59] <mhr3> you got this from gensymbols?
[10:59] <mandel> mhr3, I might be missing something specific for cpp, but yes
[11:00] <mandel> mhr3, I'm doing => dpkg-gensymbols -plibudm-priv-common.so -v0.3 -Osymbols.amd64 -elibudm-priv-common.so.*.*
[11:00] <mandel> mhr3, might knowledge might be very outdated
[11:01] <mhr3> mandel, just do empty symbols file and let buildpackage generate it for you ;)
[11:02] <mhr3> mandel, i mean, only with the header
[11:02] <sergiusens> mandel, did you see my comment about udm?
[11:02] <mandel> sergiusens, nope, sorry, looking
[11:03] <sergiusens> mandel: ack, the readArgs thing is broken it seems, so testing broke it ;)
[11:03] <mandel> sergiusens, really? weird, I'll take a look
[11:04] <sergiusens> mandel: I get download errors saying that Decode expects pointers
[11:04] <mandel> sergiusens, where did you write the comment?
[11:10] <mandel> mhr3, I'll do that
[11:15] <mhr3> mandel, plus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I.27m_exposing_a_new_C.2BAC8-C.2B-.2B-_symbols_in_my_library.2C_it_seems_that_some_packaging_changes_are_needed.2BICY-
[11:17] <mandel> mhr3, awesome, thx, I was missing the sed part to demangle the names
[11:38] <sergiusens> asac: ogra_ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/goget-ubuntu-touch/trunk/view/head:/ubuntu-emulator/diskimage/customization.go#L29
[11:40] <sergiusens> network manager does run though
[11:40] <asac> ok
[11:42] <ogra_> we are looking for an issue with the network indicator ... so i guess that should be fine to try  in the emulator
[11:42] <ogra_> oh you set ip eth0 ... not a wlan facke connection ... hmm
[11:47] <sergiusens> ogra_: http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/emulator.html#emulatornetworking
[11:50] <cwayne> ogra_, ping
[11:50] <ogra_> hey cwayne
[11:51] <cwayne> ogra_, heya, did your rewrite of ubuntu-touch-session land yet?
[11:51] <ogra_> cwayne, nope ... to much desaster handling this week
[11:51] <ogra_> cwayne, i'll push your session change later today ...
[11:52] <ogra_> (havent forgotten about it ... there is still an open tab in my browser with it ;) )
[11:52] <ogra_> we currently cant build images anyway to land it anywhere
[11:52] <cwayne> ogra_, :) thanks. sorry to bug, was just going through my list to update statuses
[11:52] <cwayne> ah
[11:53] <sergiusens> cwayne: well an updated  golang-go-flags should be in utopic (since the original sync) in case you haven't noticed
[11:53] <cwayne> sergiusens, oh, awesome, thanks!
[11:59] <asac> ogra_: Wellark: thostr_: so using emulator i get the crash i think right after booting
[11:59] <asac> root@ubuntu-phablet:~# ls /var/crash/
[11:59] <asac> _usr_lib_i386-linux-gnu_indicator-network_indicator-network-service.32011.crash
[12:00] <ogra_> yay
[12:00] <asac> hope helps debugging
[12:00] <asac> Wellark: go go go  :)
[12:36] <ogra_> davmor2, in case you can get your flo online could you check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1320154
[12:39] <asac> Wellark: did the emulator help debugging the crash?
[12:41] <Wellark> asac: I'm pretty sure it's the same "missing ofono" crash that we see on manta and flo
[12:41] <asac> Wellark: yeah, thought you had no tablet to debug
[12:41] <asac> hence pointing you that you can reproduce it on emulator
[12:41] <asac> x86
[12:42] <Wellark> I could repro by just doing "sudo stop ofono"
[12:42] <Wellark> asac: but thanks! :)
[12:42] <Wellark> I need a tablet though to debug the other issues
[12:42] <asac> Wellark: which issues?
[12:42] <asac> Wellark: try emulator please
[12:42] <asac> its awesome
[12:42] <asac> the x86
[12:43] <Wellark> asac: it's not that usable for me with indicator-network unless it emulates actual wifi devices as well :)
[12:43] <Wellark> which it doesn't
[12:43] <Wellark> but I could take a look
[12:44] <asac> rsalveti: can emulator emulate wifi? or maybe pass through to host?
[12:44] <ogra_> nope
[12:44] <ogra_> you could probably fake the wlan0 name via udev rules ... but that wont give you wifi features for the device
[12:45] <ogra_> asac, http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/emulator.html#emulatornetworking
[12:47] <asac> wonder what would happen if you pass through a USB wifi dongle to the qemu
[12:47] <asac> afaik you can make usb devices available in qemu quest?
[12:48] <ogra_> right, but i guess it also becomes ethX
[12:49] <Wellark> I've done this sort of hacking before using virtualbox and passing through wifi usb adapters
[12:49] <Wellark> it works marvelously
[12:53] <ogra_> well, then it might work too with qemu ... we should definitely look into that
[13:04] <Wellark> ogra_, davmor2, sil2100: thostr_ prepared silo 11
[13:05] <ogra_> yay
[13:05] <davmor2> \o/
[13:05] <Wellark> on devices where you can't get internet because of the crash you can just manually download the indicator-network*arm*.deb
[13:05] <Wellark> and adb push that to the device
[13:06] <Wellark> I need to visit a pharmacy real quick while the packages are being built
[13:06] <Wellark> thostr_: oh, forgot to merge trunk. pushed now an update
[13:06] <Wellark> thostr_: please hit "Build"
[13:07] <Wellark> if the silo was building already
[13:07] <Wellark> seems it still on a state of "ready to build"
[13:07] <Wellark> so we should be all good.
[13:17] <mhall119> bzoltan1: Kaleo: is there a way to make a WebView/UbuntuWebView a Page's flickable so that the header hides properly?
[13:18] <mhall119> I haven't been able to get them to play nicely together
[13:19] <Kaleo> mhall119, hmmm, I don't know, our specialist in that matter is timp
[13:20] <mhall119> t1mp: I can never tab-complete your name because I always start with ti :(
[13:20] <mhall119> anyway, see above
[13:21] <t1mp> mhall119: yeah.. I wanted timp, but it is taken already
[13:22] <t1mp> mhall119: I don't know about the webview. Is it a Flickable?
[13:22] <mhall119> t1mp: I don't know, but surely we could make our own UbuntuWebView flickable if we needed to
[13:22] <mhall119> olivier isn't around to comment on that though
[13:24] <t1mp> mhall119: Page has a flickable property, which automatically detects if you put a Flickable inside the Page, and links that to the header
[13:24] <t1mp> mhall119: but it is also possible to set Page.flickable to anything you want if it is not auto-detected
[13:24] <t1mp> mhall119: if the webview is or has a Flickable, it should be easy to do. If not, then it is hard to do
[13:28] <bzoltan1> mhall119: as far as I know the webview captures that input
[13:34] <mterry> ogra_, do you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-touch-session/split/+merge/211549 ?  I just realized it never got an approved sign off (I'm doing split landing prep)
[13:35] <ogra_> mterry, hmm, are you sure that NM pkla is needed ? i think we do soemthing similar at build time in livecd-rootfs
[13:35] <mterry> ogra_, read the comments in that file
[13:35] <ogra_> hah, blind me :P
[13:35] <mterry> ogra_, it was missing a lightdm section
[13:36] <mterry> ogra_, so I expanded and we can eventually drop from livecdfs
[13:36] <Hennakin> hi there. i have my lg google nexus 4 running on ubuntu touch 14.04. everything is working fine - only the call quality is really bad. it sounds like a robot speaking. do i need a specific radio image for it to work properly? is there a check i can do to verfiy the correct version installed or is there another trick like specific mixer settings for my device?
[13:36] <ogra_> --poweroff-delay defines how long the animation runs on shutdown ?
[13:36] <mterry> ogra_, no, that's a hack around a mir problem of seeing a "frame gap" when turning on the screen
[13:36] <mterry> ogra_, like you'll see an old frame or two
[13:36] <ogra_> ah, k
[13:37] <mterry> ogra_, not technically related to split greeter, but part of "seemless locking"
[13:37] <ogra_> yeah
[13:37] <ogra_> mterry, approved
[13:37] <mterry> ogra_, thanks man
[13:38] <ogra_> cwayne, same for your session change
[13:39] <cwayne> ogra_, thank you sir
[13:40] <davmor2> ogra_: meh what's the link for the silo my brain isn't working today
[13:41] <davmor2> ogra_: nvm I remembered
[13:41] <ogra_> davmor2, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-011/
[13:43] <davmor2> ogra_: oh man arm64 and amd64 next to each other I wonder how many people are going to click on the wrong one or wonder why its built all the packages twice :)
[13:43] <ogra_> heh
[13:45] <cwayne> rsalveti, ^ once the session change goes in, you could ship a upstart override for the x86 emulator to fix that unity8 issue :)
[13:51] <Hennakin> is there an open issue about bad call quality on the nexus4 on trusty tahr ?
[14:01] <popey> Hennakin: not that I'm aware of, can you be more specific?
[14:13] <kenvandine> popey, actually my wife complains that i'm hard to understand when I'm on my mako
[14:14] <kenvandine> but on my end it sounds fine
[14:16] <popey> low mic volume?
[14:18] <seb128> kenvandine, that's because you are so shy/have such a low voice :p
[14:19] <popey> hahah
[14:19] <ogra_> seb128, shy and american ? does that exist ?
[14:19] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah... i'm sure that's it :)
[14:21] <seb128> ogra_, not sure, but I know it's not kenvandine :p
[14:22]  * ogra_ thinks the shy americans just buy guns and stop being shy
[14:37] <rsalveti> mandel: remember that if you touch the compat side of the platform-api (the part that gets included in the android container), you'll need to rebuild the android image
[14:38] <mandel> rsalveti, thx, AFAIK I'm ok but is something to keep in mind.. (me takes notes)
[14:40] <mterry> Wellark, you asked me to send you a reminder email yesterday about https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-network/watch-nm-dbus/+merge/219705, but I forgot  :-/
[14:40] <Wellark> mterry: np. there was a critical problem I have been working on the whole day anyway
[15:13] <Hennakin> I got a problem with my nexus4 using trusty tahr: the caller has really bad audio quality. i can understand him well. It seems that some sort of latency (drop outs) problem or something else. Callers say it sounds like a robot 4-bit crap voice. Can it be that i have the wrong radio image installed?
[15:14] <Hennakin> I have the developer branch installed and keep it updated.
[15:15] <Hennakin> A friend of me has the same problems with the same phone but another provider in another city - so i think it´s not related to the quality of the phone network.
[15:16] <popey> Hennakin: sounds like a bug which might need filing in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+filebug?no_redirect
[15:16] <Hennakin> Can i somehow check which version of closed modules i am using?
[15:18] <popey> Hennakin: which specific modules?
[15:19] <ShayaN> Hello.
[15:20] <Guest19999> i have Question, i wonder if anyone could helpme...
[15:20] <mbalmer> Oh, I doubt that.
[15:20] <Guest19999> can i install ubuntu on my android tablet acer iconia b1 a71 with LOCKED Bootloader?!
[15:21] <Guest19999> i mean possible?
[15:24] <dpm> hi dobey, so to merge the translations of core apps .desktop files I was thinking of just copying the cmake changes you did to the click scope to use intltool. I see it's now using POTFILES.in and LINGUAS. Is there a way that these could be generated on-the-fly instead of maintaining them manually? I'm not too worried about POTFILES.in, but I wouldn't want to have to manually track and modify LINGUAS across 20 apps every time we get a new translation fr
[15:24] <dpm> om LP.
[15:25] <dpm> I know python-distutils-extra does some magic to generate these during build, so I'm wondering if we could do something similar with cmake
[15:25] <dobey> dpm: you don't need the LINGUAS
[15:26] <dobey> dpm: we've dropped the LINGUAS file in click scope recently
[15:26] <dpm> ah, nice
[15:28] <dpm> dobey, ah, I see it now on the 'devel' branch. What about POTFILES.in?
[15:29] <Hennakin> popey: i do not know the names. but some modules like the one for the radio functionality to make calls for example. i think i could potentially check some things like mixer settings for making phone calls, radio image version (if there are versions that are not supported by Trusty Tahr), some logfiles where a could find info about a phone call or debugging info (which i dont know how to
[15:29] <Hennakin> enable).
[15:31] <dobey> dpm: we have a POTFILES.in because we are using intltool-update to generate the .pot file
[15:33] <dobey> dpm: i was trying to make the translations support in click scope work as closely as possible to how we use intltool in autotools projects, so i could learn some things and translate what i learn back into support in intltool for working under cmake as well
[15:33] <Hennakin> Oops - i just found out that i have 14.10 (the new utopic unicorn) running on my nexus4. should i install 14.04 to get rid of my bad quality phone calls problem or is itok to use it?
[15:35] <dpm> dobey, ok, so you'd recommend to still use POTFILES.in, then?
[15:38] <dobey> dpm: i didn't look at how you were currently building translations in those apps
[15:38] <dobey> dpm: if you are not using POTFILES.in currently, there isn't a huge reason to start using it (doing so is a bit complex at this point)
[15:39] <dobey> dpm: you're generating the .pot file by calling xgettext directly right?
[15:41] <dpm> dobey, exactly, and using a script to extract the translatable messages from the .desktop.in files. That would need to be rewritten in a nicer way, but can't wait. But in any case, we need to add at least a way to merge the translations back.
[15:41] <dpm> so I was thinking of just using intltool
[15:41] <dpm> but *can wait, I meant
[15:42] <dpm> what we need to do now is the merging back to .desktop
[15:42] <dobey> dpm: have a url to the source of the script that pulls the messages from the .desktop.in?
[15:42] <dpm> it's inside the cmake, let me find an app that uses it
[15:43] <dobey> i think you're not doing things the standard way there, and just using tr() in the .desktop file, which is kind of weird.
[15:44] <dobey> dpm: i guess calculator-app is doing it this way right?
[15:44] <dpm> dobey, yes, that's what I meant by it needs rewriting. Yes, calc is doing it this way: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calculator-dev/ubuntu-calculator-app/trunk/view/head:/CMakeLists.txt#L54
[15:46] <dobey> dpm: ok, i really need to get lunch now. but i'll look at calculator and see if i can make a simple enough change that you can apply to the other core apps as well
[15:46] <dpm> that'd be awesome, thanks dobey!
[15:46] <dobey> no problem :)
[16:10] <mterry> sil2100, do you have a link for the bug that prevented network indicator from showing up?
[16:11] <mterry> I'm seeing same thing in my split silo and trying to find out why
[16:22] <sil2100> mterry: oh, I think there is a fix for that already
[16:23] <sil2100> mterry: I mean, did you rebuild unity8?
[16:23] <sil2100> mterry: (like, synced with unity8 trunk and rebuilt)
[16:23] <sil2100> mterry: since the problem in our touch images was that unity8 with the required changes for the new network indicator weren't uploaded I guess
[16:24] <mterry> sil2100, I did resync and rebuild...  That's why I'm confused
[16:24] <mterry> Must be some new problem!  :(
[16:24] <mterry> Seems like some mismatch between network-indicator and ofono
[16:25] <sil2100> hm hm, since the landing for that was I think indicator-network, connectivity-api and unity8
[16:26] <sil2100> And even more components, so the change involved: unity8, connectivity-api, indicator-network, qmenumodel and unity-notifications <- but the 2 last ones might be a bit less important
[16:48] <Wellark> anyone has any idea where this message is coming from?
[16:48] <Wellark> I see from the text that it's some sort of a balance notification coming from the cellular provider
[16:48] <Wellark> http://imagebin.org/311028
[16:48] <Wellark> (note, chromium now things imagebin.org is malware...)
[16:49] <Wellark> bfiller: I'm pretty sure that comes from the messaging side.. anyone I could aks?
[16:50] <Wellark> I used to get that before, too. but the text was not visible
[16:50] <Wellark> so I had no idea what it was about
[16:51] <Wellark> also the "?" in that message should be €
[16:52] <Wellark> so we have an encoding problem somewhere :)
[16:55] <Wellark> bfiller: it seems to be same kind of a message I get when I use those magic *XXX# codes in the dialer
[18:06] <phq> Hello, I'm having a problem with the following commands(run as root) reporting that the instance does not exist: ubuntu-emulator create myinstance && ubuntu-emulator run myinstance
[18:10] <achiang> doanac: i see you've messed about with phablet-network in the past...
[18:10] <doanac> achiang: wow. i hate VCS :)
[18:11] <achiang> doanac: it would be nice if i could copy multiple NM configs to the device and not have it blow away the active_ws_connection.conf every time
[18:12] <achiang> doanac: why do you think VCS was invented? linus invented it when he turned from a coder to a manager ;)
[18:12] <doanac> i'm stealing that quote.
[18:12] <achiang> doanac: except i can't figure it out. simply copying various NM configs from my host to target doesn't seem to result in happiness when i run "nmcli con list"
[18:13] <doanac> achiang: it sounds like a reasonable request to me. I don't know NM stuff too well though.
[18:13] <achiang> that is, NM only seems to know about the most recently deployed config
[18:13] <achiang> doanac: hm, ok.... i'll keep poking along then
[18:13] <doanac> i think you probably need to get sergio's take on this. (seems to be offline now though)
[18:13] <achiang> doanac: yes, why do you think i'm harassing you? because sergio is not online! ;)
[18:14] <doanac> achiang: you are very skilled. i like your style
[18:14] <achiang> "the Macbeth understudy is cursed with bad luck too..."
[18:14] <doanac> i may need to become your apprentice :)
[18:15] <achiang> :)
[18:42] <mterry> Wellark, so I'm looking at an issue in split-greeter mode where indicator-network isn't showing up in the greeter
[18:42] <mterry> Wellark, is there any easy way to get more debugging output from indicator-network?
[18:45] <mterry> or at least to easily debug which menus it's exporting or something
[18:52] <mterry> Wellark, aha!  If I set the profile to "phone" instead of "phone_greeter" it works...  Something in the recent rewrite broke phone_greeter
[19:08] <Wellark> mterry: right. I'm not exporting it properly.
[19:08] <Wellark> sorry
[19:08] <Wellark> please file a bug that the phone_greeter profile is not being exporter
[19:08] <Wellark> I will take care of it next week
[19:08] <Wellark> thanks!
[19:08] <Wellark> have a great weekend!
[19:11] <mterry> Wellark, I've filed a bug and working on a branch, no worries!
[19:20] <dobey> mhall119: around?
[19:31] <dobey> anyone around that has access to manage core apps on devportal?
[19:38] <mhall119> dobey: I am around
[19:38] <mhall119> do you mean the website, or the store?
[19:39] <mhall119> I have access to manage the website, but I think only popey has access to update the apps in the store
[19:39] <dobey> mhall119: well not sure, becaue i really have no idea how teams work in respect to the devportal
[19:40] <dobey> mhall119: what i want to know, is the value of "Keywords" in the store for ubuntu-calculator-app
[19:41] <mhall119> let me see if I can get that
[19:42] <rsalveti> cwayne: did the workaround worked reliably for you? (emulator)
[19:43] <taiebot> I am the only with problem with gsm connection on nexus 4? downgraded to r28 devel still cannot connect to gsm
[19:44] <ogra_> works fine for me
[19:44] <taiebot> On r33
[19:44] <ogra_> on 28
[19:44] <ogra_> everything above 28 is known to have wifi and 3G issues
[19:45] <popey> mhall119: just saw my name mentioned, wassup?
[19:45] <taiebot> on 28 wifi is ok but no icon for gsm
[19:45] <mhall119> dobey: Keywords: calculator,math
[19:45] <mhall119> popey: dobey just needed some info about the calculator app'
[19:46] <mhall119> app's metadata in the store
[19:46] <popey> mhall119: i cant edit core apps
[19:46] <mhall119> popey: who can?
[19:46] <popey> i can only accept / reject them. sergio / balloons and mirv have the creds to upload/edit
[19:46] <mhall119> ah, ok, good to know, thanks
[19:47] <dobey> ah
[19:48] <popey> dobey: what needs changing?
[19:48] <dobey> popey: nothing at the moment, just curious what the values were
[19:48] <popey> ok, i can hepl
[19:48] <popey> *help
[19:48] <dobey> there's no direct way to see them in the client afaik
[19:48] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7474655/
[19:49] <popey> run that python
[19:49] <popey> it will spawn a browser window in which you can see all the metadata for apps in store
[19:49] <taiebot> on 28 i am affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1318755 but now my gsm do not want to start. i think there is a problem with the kernel. I used to notice that after work where i have very poor gsm network i could not reconnect without a hard reboot or having to do adb shell sudo reboot
[19:50] <cwayne> rsalveti, yeah, ive only booted maybe 4-5 times since i did it, but it's worked each time
[19:50] <dobey> oh, they are in the details for the package
[19:50] <dobey> so i guess i can see them that way
[19:50] <dobey> thanks mhall119 and popey
[19:50] <rsalveti> cwayne: great, will propose the workaround later then
[19:51] <ogra_> taiebot, the network-indicator should be fully fixed in image 34 (once that was built)
[19:51] <ogra_> the settings kind of depend on it too ...
[19:51] <ogra_> there were many issues with that indicator change in vereything after image 28
[19:51] <mhall119> popey: well isn't that a handy little script
[19:51] <popey> yes!
[19:52] <ogra_> taiebot, if you want an always working image better stay on devel ...
[19:53] <popey> mhall119: made by the author of beru iirc
[19:53] <popey> its on github
[19:53] <ogra_> devel-proposed is broken often enough
[19:54] <taiebot> ogra_ : Are you sure the indicator is the problem? i do think there is something more problematic. i had gsm before on 28 now i cannot connect to gsm
[19:56] <taiebot> ogra_ will go back to devel its safer :)
[19:56] <ogra_> :)
[20:08]  * mhall119 stays off -proposed for a reason :)
[20:10] <taiebot> ogra_ flash to devel and i have lost all my contacts is that suppose to happen?
[20:10] <ogra_> depends how you flashed
[20:11] <ogra_> --wipe definitely does what you think it would
[20:11] <taiebot>  ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel
[20:27] <ogra_> that should not delete your contacts ... but ... if the addressbok app format changed in the new version and it somehowconverted your contacts to it thihs could indeed have influence when going back
[20:28] <taiebot> ogra_ sorry reboot agained and i have my contacts back still no gsm though...
[20:28] <ogra_> no gsm or just no icon ?
[20:28] <taiebot> no gsm
[20:28] <ogra_> hmm
[20:36] <taiebot> ogra_ looking at ofono scripts in /usr/share/ofono/scripts
[20:36] <ogra_> are you sure you didnt simply run out of creadit ?
[20:36] <ogra_> *credit
[20:36] <taiebot>  python enable-modem
[20:36] <taiebot> Connecting modem /hfp/10683F5C8E08_3C363DA4136A...
[20:36] <taiebot> Can't set modem 'Powered': org.ofono.Error.Failed: Operation failed
[20:37] <taiebot> tried earlier with girlfriend simcard
[20:37] <ogra_> awe_, ^^
[20:37] <ogra_> seems another gsm issue
[20:43] <taiebot> i think UT try to connect to wrong modem
[20:44] <taiebot> Should it not connect to /ril_0 ?  mine try to connect /hfp/10683F5C8E08_3C363DA4136A...
[20:50] <awe_> taiebot, you shouldn't need to use the scripts at all, when the device is powered up, urfkill is supposed to online the modem
[20:50] <awe_> this was previously done by telepathy-ofono
[20:50] <awe_> what device are you running?
[20:50] <taiebot>  I cannot connect to any gsm network.
[20:51] <taiebot> Nexus 4 i am having this bug . https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1318755
[20:52] <awe_> So there's a bug which won't be fixed till image 34 where the 3g icon is not displayed on the panel, even if you're connected
[20:53] <awe_> can you check the output of 'list-modems | grep Online'?
[20:53] <ogra_> awe_, he went back to 28 after having these issues
[20:53] <awe_> ogra_, do we have a 34 yet?
[20:54] <ogra_> waiting for ufw which fixes a test issue ... should migrate from proposed soon
[20:54] <ogra_> then i'll build
[20:54] <awe_> ogra_, too many broken pieces landing, which makes trying to debug anything very frustrating
[20:54] <ogra_> yes
[20:54] <awe_> let's see how 34 looks
[20:54] <taiebot> I have 5 output of Online = 0
[20:54] <awe_> are you on image 28?
[20:54] <taiebot> yes
[20:54] <ogra_> awe_, we normally keep the changeset to a handfull of packages ...
[20:55] <ogra_> but with the broken builders today plus ripping out all python2 from the image plus the borken indicator it was simply to much
[20:55] <awe_> taiebot, if the script 'online-modem' doesn't bring up your modem, I would try a reboot
[20:55] <awe_> I have seen an issue where the modem sometimes doesn't get onlined when the device boots
[20:56] <taiebot> Did a few already cannot get it trigerred. Is my phone dead ?
[20:56] <awe_> but I could only get it to happen twice earlier today with image #33
[20:56] <awe_> every other time, it works just fine
[20:56] <awe_> no, I don't think your phone is dead
[20:56] <taiebot> should i remove all those modems? and only keep /ril_0
[20:56] <awe_> no
[20:56] <awe_> what other modems?
[20:56] <dobey> did your imei get blacklisted?
[20:57] <awe_> there's only one modem on a mako
[20:57] <awe_> dobey, no his modem is not online
[20:57] <awe_> 'Online' is the radio control
[20:57] <awe_> if it's set to 0
[20:57] <awe_> then the radio is off
[20:57] <awe_> we landed the stack components for flight-mode earlier this week
[20:57] <dobey> oh
[20:57] <awe_> which just changes which component sets the modem online
[20:57] <awe_> it used to be tp-ofono
[20:57] <awe_> now it's urfkill
[20:58] <awe_> and in some cases
[20:58] <taiebot> python list-modems give me 5 different choice of modems  /hfp/10683F5C8E08_3C363DA4136A   /hfp/10683F5C8E08_3C363DA4136A
[20:58] <awe_> can you pastebin?
[20:58] <dobey> well those 2 are the same thing
[20:59] <awe_> also those look like BT devices
[20:59] <awe_> hfp = "hands free profile"
[21:00] <awe_> fyi, you can just run '/usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems', you don't need to supply "python"
[21:00] <taiebot> http://tinyurl.com/mgbvvtm
[21:00]  * dobey wonders what happened to tassader
[21:00] <awe_> taiebot, can you also try to disable BT?
[21:01]  * kenvandine is fighting the urge to upgrade the laptop to utopic before traveling this weekend
[21:01] <taiebot> BT?
[21:01] <awe_> bluetooth
[21:01] <dobey> kenvandine: don't do it
[21:01] <awe_> have you installed any other software on your device is it totally stock?
[21:02] <kenvandine> i need to rebuild a bunch of things for trusty though...
[21:02] <kenvandine> dobey, but i won't
[21:02] <awe_> taiebot, ril_0 is the main modem, and it doesn't even show up as powered
[21:02] <dobey> kenvandine: vm it
[21:02] <awe_> which is bad
[21:03] <awe_> taiebot, my advice to you would be to wait for image #34 to land
[21:03] <taiebot> Just for my knowledge what is the use of the other modem?
[21:03] <awe_> those all are Bluetooth devices
[21:04] <dobey> taiebot: have you flashed with --bootstrap --wipe? (hopefully you have any data backed up)
[21:04] <awe_> taiebot, and I'm surprised they're showing up without you explicitly pairing them
[21:04] <taiebot> no the only stuff i have done to rootstock image is enable rw and manually set 3g
[21:04] <awe_> taiebot, what do you mean by "manually set 3g"?
[21:05] <awe_> and why are you using a rootstock image?
[21:05] <awe_> vs. a standard touch image?
[21:05] <awe_> ogra_, ^^?
[21:05] <ogra_> why do you ask me ? :)
[21:05] <awe_> you wrote rootstock?  ;)-
[21:06] <ogra_> yeah, but i didnt decide for taiebot :)
[21:06] <awe_> and I thought maybe you'd already found this out from taiebot
[21:06] <ogra_> taiebot, i would only use rootstock if i really need to ... because i fiddle with the android system.img or so
[21:06] <taiebot> because 6 month ago could not get access to 3g netwrok did few changes to the file where all the 3g operators are set..
[21:06] <ogra_> or to roll some special image
[21:06] <ogra_> ah
[21:07] <taiebot> this neverworked though and never encountered a problem..
[21:07] <ogra_> i think you should actually backup and do a proper install then
[21:07] <awe_> +1
[21:07] <dobey> indeed
[21:07] <taiebot> but i will have to do the same as my 3g network is not recognised by ut
[21:08] <awe_> we've made big improvements to the provisioning for gprs
[21:08] <ogra_> rootstock is nice for one shot installs ... but it wont for example upgrade your kernel or recovery if there are new bits
[21:08] <awe_> taiebot, that said, if you flash a stock image and you're network still isn't provisioned with the latest code, then let us know and we can try to patch our gprs db
[21:09] <awe_> but it you just patch yourself, we'll never know
[21:11] <taiebot> Do i just have to copy home folder?
[21:12] <awe_> taiebot, you need to flash a standard image using ubuntu-device-flash
[21:12] <awe_> and use --wipe
[21:12] <ogra_> for backup the home folder shuld be fine
[21:12] <awe_> I also would recommend waiting till image #34 is available
[21:13] <ogra_> which i just triggered :)
[21:13] <awe_> awesome
[21:14] <taiebot> ok found back which file i have modified mobile-provider-info
[21:15] <awe_> so I would make sure you copy that file
[21:15] <taiebot> i do not think this is related to my problem will wait for 34 to see if it solves my problem..
[21:15] <awe_> however we also now use a new db
[21:15] <awe_>  /system/etc/apns-conf.xml
[21:15] <ogra_> note that 34 might have other issues though ...
[21:15] <awe_> modifying mbpi directly is not advised
[21:15] <ogra_> the test results for 33 didnt look so well
[21:15] <awe_> well, I don't know what to say then
[21:16] <taiebot> to enable 3g i had to do https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1225174/comments/14
[21:16] <awe_> right, but it's better to modify the ofono gprs file in /var/lib/ofono/<IMSI>/
[21:16] <awe_> but only after stopping ofono
[21:17] <t1mp> ogra_: you mean in general there were a lot of failures in image33?
[21:17] <awe_> again we've changed our provisioning db now
[21:17] <ogra_> t1mp, yup
[21:17] <t1mp> ogra_: popey and I just tested weather-app in image 33 and it is all good on our devices, but on the dashboard it has a lot of red
[21:17] <awe_> it's much more complete, and there's a good chance it will just work
[21:17] <ogra_> we went from 11 to 32 failures
[21:17] <ogra_> t1mp, aah, good
[21:17] <awe_> sigh
[21:17] <awe_> perhaps asac needs to declare defcon-0
[21:18] <awe_> ( or whatever it's called )
[21:18] <ogra_> awe_, we will do that if we're not better on monday
[21:18] <t1mp> ogra_: actually, weather app in image 33 has less failures than 32 because some flaky tests were fixed :)
[21:18] <ogra_> i actually expect a few improvements in 34
[21:18] <dobey> awe_: we must not allow a mine shaft gap!
[21:19] <ogra_> t1mp, well, the dashboard shows 10 for weather ...
[21:19] <taiebot> No problem if you could add my provider i would be more than happy :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/telephony-service/+bug/1266275 or if you could allow the community to fill this file i would be more than happy to help
[21:20] <ogra_> 32 only had 4
[21:20] <t1mp> ogra_: I got those 4 in 32 also, but everything passes in 33, see https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/landing_140514/+merge/219516/comments/525162
[21:21] <ogra_> t1mp, note that all of python2 was removed from the image with 33
[21:21] <ogra_> might be related
[21:22] <ogra_> also there were issues with wifi in on the lab devices ...
[21:23] <ogra_> if weather polls a remote source that will likely cause extra failures
[21:24] <ogra_> anyway  ... #34 is building ... lets hope that fixes the wifi issues as expected ...
[21:24]  * ogra_ EODs ...
[21:25] <dobey> ogra_: shouldn't you have done that ~6 hrs ago? :P
[21:26] <taiebot> Thanks guys  hope my problem will get fixed with the next image
[21:27] <awe_> ogra, so his provider isn't in apns-conf.xml.  VECTONE is yet another MVNO
[21:27] <awe_> so I moved his bug to the android project, and we
[21:28] <awe_> will need to get the right details sorted out to update the db
[21:28]  * awe_ hopes the settings team hurries up on the Edit APN UI
[22:22] <nik90_> rsalveti: ping (hope it is not too late)
[22:22] <rsalveti> nik90_: pong
[22:22] <nik90_> rsalveti: is it possible to go landscape in the emulator?
[22:23] <rsalveti> nik90_: there's a way to change the orientation of the emulator screen, but not sure yet if that's connected with the sensors data
[22:23] <rsalveti> Ctrl-F11 and Ctrl-F12
[22:24] <nik90_> rsalveti: if I were to report bugs against the ubuntu emulator, where do I report it?
[22:25] <rsalveti> nik90_: feel free to open a bug against the android package
[22:26] <rsalveti> next week I'm going to check everything that is broken in there
[22:27] <nik90_> rsalveti: yeah..I just wanted to report wishlist bugs :)
[22:28] <rsalveti> let me know the bug number as well
[22:28] <nik90_> rsalveti: will do
[22:28] <rsalveti> thanks
[22:29] <nik90_> rsalveti: you were right, the sensors are not connected to the orientation
[22:29] <a_muva__> just want to report if someone calls my nexus 4, the phone rings only once, and then once again when I press Answer button. I have to wait until sound ends and then I can speak.
[22:29] <rsalveti> a_muva__: please open a bug against the telephony-app
[22:29] <a_muva__> ok
[22:31] <rsalveti> a_muva__: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app
[22:31] <a_muva__> thank you