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Guest18511hi00:05
Guest18511hello00:05
fbsdhi00:13
hunthey guys00:18
huntim installing ubuntu on a fresh ssd00:18
hunti have 8gb of ram00:18
hunthow should i partition it?00:18
ikoniahow ever suits your needs best00:18
huntim not totally clear on whats neccesarry00:18
ikoniathink about where you will use data and size it approptiatel00:18
huntim not duel bootoing00:18
huntim just trying to give ubuntu enough space to work00:19
hunti dont realy know what partitions i need for that00:19
ikoniaok, so the two main areas are / and /home00:19
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huntif i need a swap etc.00:19
ikoniaswap can always help00:19
hunthow big a swap should i make?00:19
ikoniaso you could do / /home swap or you could just do / and swap or as granular as you want00:19
ikoniaup to you really, depends on a few things00:19
ikoniaif you want to use suspend/hibernate it must be at least as much as your ram00:20
ikoniaif you don't want to use that, then you can make it much smaller00:20
huntwhy does /home need to be a seperate partition? isnt home just a folder?00:20
ikoniait doesn't need to be, it's one option00:20
huntso i should make my swap 8gb if i want to sleep/hibernate... for an indefinite duration?00:20
ikoniaif you're new to ubuntu making 1 big partition for everytihng apart from swap can be a good introduction00:20
ikoniahunt: if you want to hibernate, it needs to be as big as your ram at least00:21
huntim not new to ubuntu (afaik) i am however not expert at setting up computers00:21
huntis there a reason to make it bigger?00:21
k1l_hunt: seperate /home is pretty handy for reinstalling or other system related issues. keeps your user data away00:21
ikoniaok, so if you're not new to ubuntu you should have a baisc idea to lay out the disk00:21
ikoniaor an idea of how to manage the disk00:21
hunti dont really know at what point im not new, but ive never managed my own hardware/fresh installations00:21
ikoniaok, so you're new to ubuntu then00:22
hunthaha ok00:22
k1l_hunt: if you want hibernation you need swap. with enough ram you might not need swap besides hibernation. if so make swap equal ram00:22
huntok i think i have 16gb or 8gb, ill just make a 16gb swap for safety00:22
ikoniathat would be a huge waste00:22
ikoniathere is zero reason for 16GB00:22
huntif i have 16gb of ram00:23
ikoniasorry, I thought you said you had 8GB00:23
k1l_i got 30GB / and rest /home. no swap.  would make / to 20Gb on next install00:23
huntim fairly sure i have 16 gb00:23
huntoh so / is just system shit?00:23
huntlike the basic libs and whatnot?00:23
ikonia01:18 < hunt> i have 8gb of ram00:23
ikoniayou said you had 8GB00:23
huntyea i know i think i spoke in error, my bad00:23
ikoniahunt: tone down the lanuage, there is no need for it and it's not welcome00:24
hunthuh?00:24
ikoniahunt: please don't swear00:24
huntoh sorry i didnt even notice, ill avoid it00:24
ikoniathank you00:24
hunti had thought that if i was installing things with sudo they were installed to a / library somewhere00:24
huntis that false?00:24
BreakmanXAnyone got an external display working with an Alienware M14xR1?00:25
ikoniahunt: packages are installed all ove rthe file system00:25
ikoniahunt: multiple directories00:25
huntim worried that if i allocate too little to / then ill havae to stop installing stuff at some point00:25
ikoniahunt: how much have you allocated to / ?00:25
huntnone yet i havent committed any partitions00:25
ikoniahunt: how much do you want to allocate ?00:25
wolfy1339what package provides aclocal in 14.0400:25
huntwell i dont know, id ideally like to be able to operate accross all drives as if they all had the same space00:26
ikoniaall drives ?00:26
ikoniayou said 1 drive earlier ???00:26
huntsorry all file systems00:27
huntmy bad00:27
hunti mean between / and /home and / whatever else00:27
ikoniahunt: you sound like it maybe worth while just allocating / and swap on 2 seperate partitions00:27
ikoniahunt: seeing how you get on, you can always change it at your next install from the lessons you have learnt00:27
huntthats a nice way of looking at it00:28
huntok, so im giving 16gb to swap and the rest goes to /00:28
huntanything else i need for ubuntu?00:28
mamece2hello.  I need help with the dd00:28
ikoniahunt: make %101 sure you have 16GB of ram00:28
Bashing-om!aclocal00:28
hunthow would i even do that without opening up my comp again00:28
hunteh fuck it ill open it up00:28
ikoniahunt: control your language !00:28
ikoniaI wo'nt ask again00:29
ikoniathere is zero need to talk like that00:29
huntoh no im sorry again00:29
Chaserwolfy1339: automake00:29
huntits really not intentional00:29
mamece2i did a mistake using dd. i put the wrong partition after of00:29
Jordan_Umamece2: You may have permanently lost all of the data on that partition then :( I assume you're now trying to recover what you can?00:30
mamece2Jordan_U: I hit ctrl+c and just 400 MB were affected00:31
mamece2Jordan_U: How can i recover whats left00:31
Jordan_Umamece2: How important is the data? If it's very important then the first thing I would do is to make a full image backup of current contents of the partition.00:32
mamece2Jordan_U: some data is important. I praying only the music is gone. I want to recover the pictures folders. I have an external 750 GB hd, it had a ntfs partition. I dd from my internal hd to the external. i cancel at 400 MB00:33
CarlFKmamece2: here is some good reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Extract_individual_files_from_recovered_image00:34
glisignoliRaised a bug for libvirt... this is going to be interesting00:34
Guest12111you can do that with two drives and trinity rescue kit thats free00:34
Bashing-ommamece2: In addition: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ...00:35
mamece2CarlFK: Bashing-om  tyvm im reading!00:36
Bashing-ommamece2: : ) .. good luck !00:37
papibeHi all00:38
UbuNoobquestion How do you tell your video drivers are uptodate and using the right ones 12.04 lts00:38
Jordan_Umamece2: ext4 creates backup superblocks, fsck.ext4 with the appropriate -B option (to point to the backup superblock) may be able to recover most of the filesystem.00:39
papibeI installed upstream kernel, but it does not appear on the grub menu. Anybody could give me directions besides the ones found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds00:39
ikoniaJordan_U: will that work as the pointers will be gone00:39
Bashing-ompapibe: Fancy meeting you here . Hello !00:39
papibehi Bashing-om00:39
papibekernel bug00:40
papibehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131963000:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1319630 in linux (Ubuntu) "85% performance hit in iwlwifi from 12.04 to 14.04" [High,Incomplete]00:40
papibetrying to install an upstream kernel00:40
ilan_hey guys, how i use the MS office 2013 with wine?00:40
Jordan_Uikonia: You mean will not? Is most of ext4's metadata stored early in the filesystem?00:40
mamece2Jordan_U: i am reading about damaged hd. my hd is not damaged, it was just partially overwritten. what do u think its the best tool for mysituation?00:40
ikoniawhy do you want the upstream kernel ?00:40
ikoniaJordan_U: yes, bad wording00:40
ikoniaJordan_U:as in "I don't expect that to work"00:41
papibeikonia: Hi. thanks for your interest. Because of this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131963000:41
ikoniapapibe: is this your bug ?00:41
papibeindeed it is, ikonia00:42
hunthow do i decide if i want my swap partition to be primary or logical?00:42
ikoniahunt: you're only using 2 partitions, so just make 2 primary ones00:42
huntok thanks ikonia00:42
ikoniapapibe: so what's the actual problem you want help with ?00:42
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huntfor my storage space on an ssd, EXT4 or XFS or something else?00:43
ikoniahunt: just use ext400:43
papibeikonia: I folllowed the instuction here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds. The packages installed OK, But I can't boot into the new kernel. It does not appear on the grub menu.00:43
ikoniathat is the default00:43
huntok thanks ikonia00:43
ikoniapapibe: check if the package is installed00:43
huntdoes encrypting my home folder slow things down much?00:45
ikoniahunt: do you have data that needs encyption ?00:45
papibeikonia: thanks for the idea. it is. update grub finds the kernel, and says it updates /boot/grub/menu.lst, but there's option for it after I reboot.00:45
rwwnot on a normal computer, no00:45
ikoniaas in REALLY needs encypting00:45
huntnope not at all00:45
huntcool so not encrypting00:45
ikoniahunt: then don't do it00:45
Beldarpapibe, menu.lst is grub legacy00:46
ikoniapapibe: visually look at menu.lst00:46
ikoniabut as grub2 doesn't use menu.lst I'm confused00:46
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ikoniait shouldn't be looking at menu.lst00:46
Bashing-omhunt: encryption is a layer that in difficult times can not be overcome. Think carefully, do you really need encryption ?00:46
ikoniahe's already says he doesn't and won't use it00:47
Deihmos_is there no way to change the folder covers from brown?00:47
Deihmos_color00:47
papibeBeldar: ikonia  I did. It's there. how should I tell grub to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg, then?00:47
ikoniapapibe: you have a menu.lst file that is not a symlink to grub.cfg ?00:48
Beldarpapibe, If it is telling you menu.lst than you probably did not finish the legacy to grub2 upgrade, this a OS that has been upgraded for awhile?00:48
Beldarjust a guess00:49
mamece2Jordan_U: I have a question. Now my external hd says it has a little ext4 partition (the one who was copied) and the rest its just unallocated. Will foremost recover files from the unallocated partition?00:49
papibeBeldar: it is 14.04 recently installed and upgraded. trying to install upstream kernel 3.1500:49
zykotick9ikonia: nor should you... those are different files aren't they?00:50
ikoniazykotick9: they are, one is dead one is not, but there have been legacy links in the past00:50
ikoniazykotick9: so if there was a link there now, I wouldn't break down with shock00:50
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papibeikonia: yes. there are 2 different files. one a config file, and the other sort of a script.00:50
Deihmos_how do you change system colors? ALl i see is changing the desktop background00:50
ikoniaa script ?00:50
papibeikonia: Beldar grub (GNU GRUB 0.97), is that the correct grub version for 14.04?00:51
ikoniathat's legacy00:51
huntthis is super weird, ubuntu apparently just installed into my samsung 840 evo, but my motherboard doesnt seem to be seeing it when it starts00:52
ikoniahunt: seeing what ?00:52
huntthe drive which i partitioned and installed ubuntu onto00:52
ikoniahunt: it doesn't see the disk at all, or just ubuntu00:52
Beldarpapibe, Not saying you should do this, but if it were me I would purge all grub and install grub 2 just to be sure, but I suspect this may be a understanding grub issue.00:52
hunti dont know, in bios its not a boot option00:53
ikoniahunt: then you have a hardware problem00:53
ikoniahunt: if your bios can't boot from that disk - you need to fix that00:53
papibeikonia: Beldar thanks. That sound like a good start. I'll do that. Be back in a few mins.00:53
huntdo you have any clue why that could be?00:53
huntyoure saying the ssd is broken or theres a compatibility issue?00:53
ikoniahunt: I don't know your hardware at all, try ##hardware00:53
huntok thanks00:54
ikoniahunt: I have no idea, but if it's not showing up in the bios - that is not ubuntu's fault, that is hardware00:54
mamece2 I have a question. Now my external hd says it has a little ext4 partition (the one who was copied) and the rest its just unallocated. Will foremost recover files from the unallocated partition? have I lost the partition table?00:54
ikoniamamece2: my opinion - your data is gone00:54
mamece2ikonia: I dont think so. I think its just partially gone. the dd destination is a 750 gb hd and the source is a 160 gb hd00:55
ikoniamamece2: good luck then00:55
Bashing-omhunt: UEFI on the motherboard ? .. might take a look at the hard disk and see what is. -> sudo parted -l <- .00:55
morph__hey guys00:57
botchI was in here a few days ago and was told if I had a question to do a ! or something  ... help?00:57
morph__how can i use rsync to back up one server to another via command line00:57
ikoniabotch: just ask00:57
zykotick9botch: just ask your question.  all on one line, with details.00:57
oromorph__, have look at duplicity00:57
mamece2in GNU parted when i type rescue,  how can i put the start?00:58
morph__ok thank you will look now00:58
botchI've upgraded my mums computer to 14.04 twice now and both times the screen scrambles shortly after booting to the login screen00:58
botchI'm seriously considering Windows again solely for the fact that my mum would have a working computer.00:58
botchAny thoughts or suggestions?00:58
Beldarbotch, Twice? this a cloned OS?00:58
SonikkuAmericaDeihmos_: What's your problem?00:58
Deihmos_how do you change system colors? All i see is a way to  change  the desktop background00:59
Beldarhonestly threating to use ms is a waste of time00:59
botchIt was an Emachine that had started both times through upgrading from 10.04 through to 14.04.00:59
botchI only have a cd from the Linux bible that has that image00:59
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SonikkuAmericaDeihmos_: The color profile?01:00
Bashing-ombotch: Maybe a graphics driver. Boot parameter "nomodeset - for Nvidia and ATI cards ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 ; then from Additional Drivers utility, install the recommneded driver.01:00
Beldarbotch, why not just install 14.04, the official lts is in july.01:00
botchAs someone who comes from a Windows XP environment, I don't know terminal ...well some01:01
SonikkuAmericas/lts/first point release of the LTS/01:02
botchAlso, the time from the moment the login screen comes up till it scrambles is about 5 seconds give or take.01:02
botchI can't load anything.01:02
mamece2if i have a 750 Gb hd, where would you put the start and the end and parted rescue???01:02
SonikkuAmericabotch: When you see GRUB load up hit E, go down to the line that says "linux /vmlinuz ...", move all the way to the end and tack "nomodeset" onto that and hit F1001:03
Deihmos_the clors of icons , folders etc. I am not a fan of brown01:04
botchI'm not sure what the GRUB screen is however I have seen it in years past.  Is it during the logo part when its booting?01:04
doesI am running ubuntu 12.04.I have a microphone that is showing up as stereo,but  it only has one  channel. How do I change it to mono?01:04
__valeriyoh hey guys01:05
huntok guys01:05
huntso i went over to hardware to try and get these partitions visible to my computer01:05
Bashing-ombotch: Cold boot ubuntu, as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu should appear.01:05
huntand they told me that im using UEFI, which means i need something special that may be involved with a /boot partition01:06
BeldarDeihmos_, Helps to identify the desktop at the least, the release does not hurt either.01:06
huntdoes anyone know how i should be partitioning this ssd for UEFI?01:06
huntand which partition i install ubuntu on?01:06
morph__oro should i use duplicity full01:06
morph__?01:06
xanguaDeihmos_: pretty sure the icons are orange and you can add any icon theme you like gnome-look.org01:06
__valeriyI have this bluetooth headset and it work kinda strange in last ubuntu 14.04. It pairs correctly, but the sound is awful, like i start playing music and it gags, then speeds up, slows down, and only then start to sound fine. I thought it's a inux generic problem, but Fedora 20 was working perfect. Any advice on how to fix the work of bluetooth headset in ubuntu?01:07
__valeriyPlease, use my nick, if you can answer my question01:07
Bashing-omhunt: I say again, You may have ubuntu installed, and only a boot issue presently, to look at what is -> sudo parted -l <-..01:07
oromorph__ what do u mean by full?01:08
oroi think yes, btw01:08
hunti cant boot into ubuntu though Bashing-om01:08
oroit must be the package name01:08
huntyou meaen from try ubuntu?\01:08
morph__oro when u type man duplicity01:08
morph__full is an option01:08
morph__i dont have much time to do this back up01:08
morph__i jsut found out this server is expiring in a fe whrs01:08
morph__i need to get EVERYTHIGN off of it01:08
Bashing-omhunt: From the livDVD ( or whatver you used to install ) // may have to tailor 'parted' to see sda .. not real sure about that requirement though.01:09
doesHow do i do that?01:10
huntBashing-om im not sure i follow what you mean, are you saying leave ubuntu installed, and run that command from my installer?01:10
CzekoIs anyone available to help me with a virtualbox issue I'm having? It involved the liveCD found in the book Hacking: the art of exploitation 2nd edition01:10
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huntim trying to follow this: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/02/05/gpt-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-13-10-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/ but theres no option for EFI boot partition... is ubuntu just not going to work for me?01:11
mamece2if you had a 750 Gb hd, where would you put the start and the end and parted rescue???01:11
Beldarhunt, boot the live and run the command01:12
mamece2cant locate the partition table in the 750 GB hd01:12
zykotick9Czeko: try #vbox01:12
Czekoalright, thanks01:12
Bashing-omhunt: Yeah, from the liveDVD, you can see what the partitioning is on the installed system. - may have to so some tweaking .. UEFI is way out of my experience, others will have to jump in here to help get the boot code properly installed, if the partitions are there.01:12
huntoh man this is such a mess, i didnt think it would be so hard to install on a fresh ssd T_T01:13
needathneed@seek mindy kaling01:14
Bashing-omhunt: UEFI, waht can we say ? ..01:14
Bashing-omwhat01:14
morph__msg oro u here?01:15
Deihmos_xangua, not what i was looking for but thanks. i guess there is no built in way to change the colors.01:15
anton02how do you check what time it was when your computer last went to sleep?01:15
huntok so heres the main problem im having01:17
huntwhen i try and select my partitions01:17
huntin the graphical set up01:18
hunttheres no efi related options01:18
botchI accessed GRUB and I think I arrowed down to far and it started running memory tests01:18
botchNow the system wont boot01:18
UbuNoobvideo driver question 12.04 lts intel graphics 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)01:18
Beldarhunt, You will not get far here not following instructions, especially on key issue like msdos or uefi, I wont help without confirmed info, many others wont either.01:19
botchWhoops got back into GRUB........01:19
huntsorry i dont understand what instructions i didnt follow beldar, i ran sudo parted -1 and appeared to just get help info01:20
huntbelfar what info are you looking for?01:20
morph__anyone here use duplicity01:20
morph__ id like to use it, but if i gotta use rsync i will i just dunno how -- i need to back up all the data on one server to another01:20
Beldarhunt, that is sudo parted -l  l is a small L  tell us when you have an error.01:20
botchside question for a noobie ... what is GRUB and how would I add something to it?01:21
huntyea i do have errors, but not on the drive im installing onto, only on /dev/sda, which is running windows. im tryingt to install to /dev/sdb @Beldar01:21
Beldarhunt, I'm not particularly trying to help other than to point out that your ignoring key instructions, and now we know any errors may not be shared with us.01:21
somsip!grub | botch01:21
ubottubotch: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub201:21
huntmy mistake, i didnt understand the significance of that command, if anyone is capable of helping me get ubuntu booting on an ssd connected via uefi, that would be very very helpful01:22
botch!grub01:22
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub201:22
botch<SonikkuAmerica> ... I didn't see but four lines in GRUB, *Ubuntu ... then ... Advanced options for Ubuntu ... then ... two memory test options01:24
SonikkuAmericabotch: Highlight the "Ubuntu" line and press E01:25
SonikkuAmerica(not ENTER)01:25
huntok question01:25
huntif im making a boot partition01:25
huntin /boot/efi01:25
Bashing-omhunt: ->sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- do that from the liveDVD, and relay the given url back to us - shows us what the partitioning is on the system.01:25
hunthow big should i make it01:25
zykotick9Bashing-om: is that going to work?  do you need to use tee for that?  <- i'm certainly NOT sure.01:26
botchGot it.  Got into the purple editor screen and added nomodeset at the very end, then pressed enter....01:26
Bashing-omhunt: If you have started the installer in UEFI mode, the installet 'should' make the boot partition.01:26
hunti have no idea how to do that01:27
botchIt then said nomodeset not found ... now it rebooted to the login screen01:27
huntim using a usb01:27
huntalso im installing pastebinit01:27
Bashing-omzykotick9: Tested 1st, works for me .01:27
Beldarbrand new ssd may have no partition table or a msdos, I doubt it has  gpt01:27
huntBashing-om is it possible with a usb?01:27
zykotick9Bashing-om: all good then!  sorry.01:27
Bashing-omhunt: Yeah .. liveUSB is good.01:27
jcstarkenVideo driver issue The following packages have unmet dependencies:01:28
jcstarken xserver-xorg-video-intel : Depends: xorg-video-abi-1101:28
jcstarken                            Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901)01:28
jcstarkenE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.01:28
botchI logged in and just have the wall paper now....But on the plus side it hasn't scrambled.01:28
Bashing-omzykotick9: Hey, always good to have my back watched ! .. I do err big time - sometimes - .01:28
zykotick9Bashing-om: ;)  don't we all?01:28
huntBashing-om: is there a trick to starting in uefi mode?01:29
Bashing-omhunt: Like advised, I have zero direct experience with UEFI.01:29
botchOh, wall paper and the mouse curser...nothing else...01:29
huntBashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/747077101:30
huntthat is not the drive i want to install to though01:30
Veraxhi ! i have a question. i run on dual boot (win7/ubun13.10) and i want to instal an other distrib. How i can know if during the intalation i write on the others distrib ? thanks :)01:31
Bashing-omhunt: Look'n at /7470771 .01:31
botch....cant really type about this Ubuntu 14 at the moment without cursing.  Will remove it from the monitor and earmark it for Windows.01:31
huntbashing-om: thats not the drive im seeking to install on however01:31
jcstarkenbotch: why not 12.04lts01:32
BeldarVerax, You need to manually install, or have an unallocated space for the install that the installer sees.01:33
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Bashing-omhunt: Disk /dev/sda -> Partition Table: gpt ; Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB -> Partition Table: msdos // do not think ya want to mix UEFI and bios 9msdos) partition types ..01:34
Beldarbingo01:34
huntso do i need to make a gpt partition table for sdb?01:34
botchI might give it a try but I'm fucking pissed at it right now.01:34
huntis that my problem?01:34
huntbashing-om01:34
VeraxBeldar : ok, with " manualy " you  mean use grub2 ?01:35
IdleOnebotch: frustration is understandable but please keep the language clean01:35
BeldarVerax, No manually means using the something else option in the install gui and manually installing, IE making the partition('s) and setting the mount point.01:36
huntdo i need to make a partition for "reserved bios boot area"? and how large should it be?01:37
Bashing-omwell, yes and no, Do not know the full story yet . Can you now boot Windows ? what is on sda ? show us -> sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print <- .01:37
huntsda is windows and can be booted bashin-om :)01:38
Veraxbeldar : ok thanks i will try this01:38
BeldarVerax, If you want to do this with help from here, giving us a screenshot of gparted or a list of the HD from the command line would help.01:38
zykotick9hunt: fyi, if you are using an irc client, you can use TAB to autocomplete nicks vs. typing them out.01:38
huntBashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/747080201:39
huntBashing-om: sda is windows, and can boot01:39
Veraxbeldar : ok i will :)01:39
BeldarVerax, There are limitations in types of partitions and how many so be aware, if you do something to break this you can have a nice new doorstop.01:40
Beldarjust a fair warning is all01:40
zykotick9Beldar: well ms-dos partition tables have a small limit.  GPT not so much ;)01:41
huntshouhld "reserved bios boot area" be logical or primary?01:41
Beldarzykotick9, True, however we know of neither here, and a bit of lingo explained, that makes me a bit worried is all.01:41
Bashing-omhunt: Depending on what you realy want to do, Might I suggest the easy way out, boot up the system in UEFI mode - ubuntu fully supports it - with the liveUSB and let the install wizard take care of doing the install. choose the option "erase disk and install ubuntu" just make tripley sure that you point the installer to 'sdb'. Else -, Well UEFI is new to a bunch of us, Some are familiar - however.01:42
zykotick9Beldar: doesn't UEFI assume GPT?  <- i wouldn't know for sure, as i'll never own a UEFI computer.01:42
huntBashing-om: i would love to do that but im really not sure how to boot in uefi mode01:42
Bashing-omhunt: Here is the bad news, each and every manufacturer does it different. There is no standard to this time. Read the manual ( not a good thing to say, all we can do).01:44
arthurfiggiszykotick9: i wish i had known about uefi at the time i bought my last pc, it was a rather unpleasant surprise to "upgrade" from a core 2 duo that -would- boot freebsd to a quad core i3-based system that -wouldn't- :( luckily ubuntu runs great on it01:44
Beldarzykotick9, Oem wise yes, I have not had one either, but we have set people up on uefi computers with msdos mbr boot, depends on what they want if I try to help, I'm not up in any depth on the uefi boot though.01:44
huntbashing-om: for my mb? i can do that, thanks for all the help01:44
Ubunteurhi01:45
Beldarzykotick9, Heh, I just want to know what it before I touch it myself. ;)01:45
zykotick9Beldar: UEFI should "die in a fire" IMO ;)  but using ms-dos partitions is crazyness IMO.  GPT can be used without UEFI.01:45
UbunteurMy system reported a " divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP01:46
Ubunteurerror01:46
Bashing-omhunt: We are here to help - when we can - UEFI is the coming thing, and will be good and great. But it is 'new' and not a lot of support.01:46
UbunteurBut it did not reboot.01:46
Beldarzykotick9, Heh, I think many feel the same way. ;)01:46
UbunteurIs that not a kernel panic?01:46
UbunteurIt gave me a call trace and stack trace, but the system is still up01:47
hunti have accessed UEFI mode01:49
Bashing-omhunt: Keep in mind in your hunting documentation; CSM is BIOS boot mode, not what ya want to boot !!01:49
ubuntunoobis anyone experiencing hangs with 13.10 and cinnamon01:49
huntBashing-om: i found it dude! theres a separate boot category for booting to uefi drives, so i am now trying to live instal for uefi01:49
Bashing-omhunt: Outstanding ! .. as we live and learn .01:50
Veraxbeldar : it's a screenshoot " http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=140516035808416843.jpg "01:50
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Ubunteurhey, anyone about?01:55
Veraxbeldar ?01:55
holsteinUbunteur: of course.. just ask01:55
UbunteurI got a "divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP" in my logs.01:56
papibeikonia: Beldar: Thanks both of you! that was it. I purge grub, reinstall grub2 and problem solved.01:56
holsteinUbunteur: saw that before01:56
UbunteurTHis came with a stack and call trace... like a kernel panic.01:56
UbunteurOK. Sorry for thr repost. Connection issue01:56
papibeikonia: Beldar: I updated the bug if you are interested:01:56
papibehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131963001:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1319630 in linux (Ubuntu) "85% performance hit in iwlwifi from 12.04 to 14.04" [High,Incomplete]01:56
holsteinUbunteur: try booting a live CD, see if the hardware is funcitoning properly.. try the guest user.. try the recovery kernel.. the older or last-good ktnerl01:56
holsteinkernel*01:56
holsteinUbunteur: make sure you are up to date with upgrades.. otherwise..01:56
holstein!bug | Ubunteur01:57
ubottuUbunteur: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.01:57
UbunteurThis is a brand new 14.04 install (server)01:57
UbunteurI did not know what package to file it under.01:57
UbunteurIt is a kernel issue I assume, but I was stress testing the hardware with the "stress" package at the time.01:57
holsteinUbunteur: you stated, and seem to be assuming kernel-panic, so test for that01:57
UbunteurBut doesn't the system reboot after a kernel panic?01:57
holsteinUbunteur: have you loaded a live CD?01:58
UbunteurThe system is still up.01:58
UbunteurNot yet, I am on the machine now.01:58
BeldarVerax, Can you boot to ubuntu and install gparted if needed and take a screenshot of it and imagebin it.01:58
Bashing-omVerax: I looked at your screenshot, looks good - ; What is your question ( again). ?01:58
BeldarI was on the phone Verax01:58
holsteinUbunteur: dont know what you mean by "up", but, no, you wouldnt say " the system is still up" if it were kernel panic'd01:58
UbunteurThe issue only occurred when I was stressing the heck out of the hardware01:58
holsteinUbunteur: sure.. you could have broken something.. overheated something.. etc01:59
BeldarBashing-om, They want an additional OS on the HD.01:59
UbunteurThat is what I thought, holstein . I mean I am using the machine to talk on IRC right now.01:59
UbunteurIt never crashed. Just logged the error.01:59
holsteinUbunteur: the issue could be *not* the kernel, or ubuntu, or software at all01:59
holsteinUbunteur: have you tried a live CD?01:59
UbunteurNot yet. But the system is running normally except for that error in the logs.01:59
holsteinUbunteur: thats a "message"02:00
Bashing-omBeldar[ thanks, will go back to lurking mode, see what you can teach me.02:00
holsteinUbunteur: wait til you have an error..02:00
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UbunteurI have seen plenty of kernel panics in BSD over the years.02:00
UbunteurBut didn't know how the latest ubuntu reported them.02:00
Veraxok, i will :)02:00
UbunteurI was confused because I get the whole trace and yet the system is still running.02:01
fwaokdamy ubuntu was shut off obruptly, and now its like ruby and rails aren't even installed... anyone know why/what I should do to resolve this?02:01
BeldarBashing-om, Heh, hardly.02:01
UbunteurPerhaps that message was just for one failed program?02:01
holsteinfwaokda: i would check my hard drive02:01
SonikkuAmericaUbunteur: When you get an actual error, use [ ubuntu-bug <packagename> ] to file against the package that's causing problems.02:02
fwaokdaholstein, its a virtual drive02:02
holsteinUbunteur: the message is just that. a message..02:02
holsteinfwaokda: then, it will be easier to check..02:02
Bashing-omBeldar: :D02:02
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BeldarI know two things coffee needs creme and sugar02:03
DEA7THI'm using Ubuntu 14. My mouse clicking doesn't work until I restart the computer, that has happened multiple times now.02:04
zykotick9Beldar: <OT> wrong ;)  coffee only needs cream, sugar is option - and non-optimal IMO02:04
DEA7THIt's not the mouse, sometimes only the right click works.02:04
Bashing-omBeldar: admittedly the lubricant for the cognitive process. Meanhile, back at the ranch.02:04
Beldar;)02:07
UbunteurI guess I will just monitor for further issues. I will run a mem test as well. THis is brand new hardware, built today.02:07
UbunteurThx.02:08
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DrChillWhat package contains boost property_tree?02:12
trismDrChill: looks like it is just in the plain libboost -dev package02:14
DrChilltrism: ty, was writing up requirements for a project and not sure where it came from(and I didn't want to require all of boost)02:15
trismDrChill: you can always ask dpkg -S or apt-file search02:15
DrChilltrism: Hmm, true, I hadn't thought of thatr02:15
FemboyEllo guys. I ran into a small problem.02:16
zip90210?02:17
FemboyAsus A6B00U. Trusty install hangs, whether connected to the net or no, on trying to install the BCM4318 driver. DKMS says finished, but installation does not continue, and instead starts an hourly cron schedule.02:18
FemboyBug, methinks.02:19
FemboyNow retrying with card out temporarily. Wish me luck.02:20
FemboyAlso, is this problem known?02:20
holsteinFemboy: dont install that driver.. just install *then* install that driver02:20
FemboyDoing that now.02:21
FemboyWell, the installer automatically tries to install that driver, so I had no choice.02:21
holstein!mini02:21
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD02:21
holsteinFemboy: its linux, and open.. there is *always* a choice02:21
FemboyThe installer detects the BCM4318, and automatically attempts to install the appropriate driver during setup, which makes hangs inevitable. So no, no choice,02:23
psusiubottu needs to s/most/all02:23
ubottupsusi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:23
holsteinFemboy: the mini iso i linked is a chioce02:23
holsteinchoice*02:23
FemboyNot up for mini, really.02:23
holsteinFemboy: or, removing the device. or disabling in the bios02:23
holsteinFemboy: sure.. but it *is* an option02:23
holsteinFemboy: you can choose not to use it, but its there, if you are saying you have no options02:24
FemboyI had a full DVD handy, so sensible to use that.02:24
holsteinFemboy: what "full DVD" ?02:24
FemboyDownload from the main site.02:24
FemboyGot it on DVD.02:25
holsteinFemboy: try the *normal* CD02:25
FemboyThat is exactly what I am using.02:25
holsteinFemboy: you said "full DVD"02:25
FemboyThe image no longer fits on a CD.02:25
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arthurfiggishello again :) on someone's suggestion here i decided to see if i had any memory issues...i sort of found one? i installed a default encrypted lvm setup when i installed 14.04...and although lsblk indicates a swap partition was created, free and swapon -s both indicate i have no swap file "memory" at all?02:26
FemboyThus, CD image no longer applies, really.02:26
holsteinFemboy: ok.. try a different one, if thats not working. the mini works02:26
holsteinshould work*02:26
FemboyI'll keep that in mind.02:26
FemboyHowever, good news.02:26
FemboyCard out02:26
FemboyAaand success.02:26
holsteinotherwise, file the bug against the broadcom02:26
FemboyI will later probably.02:27
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FemboyI had Debian on it.02:27
Femboy1800MHz Sempron 3000+.02:27
FemboyA knight if I ever saw one.02:27
holstein!ot02:28
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:28
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botchApparently on a serious note, I have had a mental breakdown and need to leave........................................02:30
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Veraxbeldar : the screenshot http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=140516043938142064.png02:31
FemboyBCM is in.02:32
FemboyUbuntu is booting.02:33
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FemboyAnd up.02:33
FemboyThat took shorter than Debian. Holy shit.02:33
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FemboyLogging in now.02:33
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holsteinFemboy: use the ot channel for chat, please..02:34
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FemboyPerformance still sucks a bit. GNOME any good? And okay.02:34
cfhowlettFemboy no profanity required or permitted in this channel.  thank you.02:34
FemboyAlright then.02:34
BeldarVerax, So what is in the sda3 ntfs partiton?02:34
Beldarlabeled as a recovery, just conforming this02:35
Beldarconfirming*02:36
Veraxbeldar : windows backup i think02:37
whitellamaHi, I'm unfamiliar with bug reporting, and noticed a bug which expired due to inactivity which affects me. I was wondering whether it's possible (or allowed) to breathe new life into an expired bug report, or if it would be better for me to file a new one.02:38
cfhowlettwhitellama file a new report02:39
cfhowlett!bug02:39
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:39
whitellamaAlrighty, thanks.02:39
Geoffrey2For some reason I cant get my laptop to resolve any domains under ubuntu 13.1002:40
BeldarVerax, You Hd is rather full, personally I would not add much more, but that is me. If you want another OS you would have to resize/shrink the sda5 and leave a unallocated for it. You can only add more partitions as it is set up in that extended partition sda4 encasing sda5 and sda6. You also have an error on sda6, this the swap, and are you encrypted? Additionally you have the sda3 at the end of HD, leav02:41
Beldaring the partitions numerically out of order.02:41
Veraxokay... yes i'm encrypted02:42
holsteinGeoffrey2: eariler, you stated the same issue.. have you added other dns servers? have you tried a live CD?02:42
BeldarVerax, Ah, that may be whay sda6 shows as it does.02:42
Veraxcan i delete some sda and have one with win7, an other with unbun ?02:43
cfhowlettVerax what's your RAM situation?  virtualbox might be an easier option.02:44
BeldarVerax, Only the recovery, really, vbox may be better as suggested.02:45
johnjohn101brasero says i have 1.4 GB free on my dvd-r dvd.  it's a brand new blank dvd02:46
Veraxwell... you must know that I'm not familar with this sda stuff :/02:47
Geoffrey2Holstein, i'll have to try a live CD...every other device works fine with this router..and the laptop connects without a hitch when running Windows 702:47
cfhowlettVerax WHAT is your ram?02:48
holsteinGeoffrey2: sure.. have you tried setting the dns settings manually?02:49
holsteinGeoffrey2: try that.. set to google or open dns02:49
Veraxwtf is that ram ?02:50
Veraxsorry, where i can find this information ?02:51
cfhowlettVerax random access memory.  open your terminal, type           free                   and hit <enter>02:51
cfhowlettVerax mem: total is the number we want02:51
holsteinGeoffrey2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf for example.. try that and report back, please02:52
Geoffrey2Holstein,  I did a quick check, and the DNS servers showing are correct for Comcast, my ISP02:52
holsteinGeoffrey2: you should spend hours and hours on this issue02:52
holsteinGeoffrey2: sure.. im not saying they are not "correct".. im asking you to specify manually googles or openDNS02:52
Veraxmen total : 401526402:55
holsteinVerax: mem02:55
bricker`LAHello, I increased the size of the virtual hard disk in VMWare, and I also added a second hard disk, but it's not showing up in ubuntu. How do I re-partition the disks so I can start using the extra space?02:56
cfhowlettVerax so you've got 4 gigs of ram.  I suggest this: install virtualbox to windows.  download 32 bit lubuntu.  install lubuntu into virtualbox.02:56
Verax             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached02:56
VeraxMem:       4015264    3033532     981732          0     177936    175507202:56
Verax-/+ buffers/cache:    1100524    291474002:56
VeraxSwap:      4159484          0    415948402:56
cfhowlettVerax so partitioning required02:56
cfhowlett*NO* partitioning required02:58
Veraxwith only win7 and ubuntu, i can't add a new one ?02:59
cfhowlettVerax I've given you the safest option02:59
cfhowlettVerax wait, you've already installed ubuntu?02:59
Veraxyes03:00
cfhowlettVerax forget my suggestion.  I didn't have all the facts.03:00
Veraxok, no problem ^^03:00
DaRudeSo i chose two monitors to be different screens in nvidia settings. They load, but i don't see a panel on screen 1, and the cursor looks like X03:01
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Veraxand as my mentor said " I Too Like to Live Dangerously "03:03
DaRudelol is that in my regard?03:04
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Nexardtest03:14
BishBoshdfds03:15
BishBoshno text03:15
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doomlord_do any of the lighter window managers work with a globalmenu. (strangely, ubuntu unity is quite laggy on my machine, but other window managers are fine, even with compositing )03:21
whoeverchannel pol: how many here keep their OS on a seperate drive then their os03:22
Beldardoomlord_, Unity is a plugin in compiz, the window manager.03:22
Beldarwhoever, WE don;t do polls here.03:22
whoever* that should be seperate drive for their os and another for their data03:22
Beldarstill off topic03:23
ObiwantjeGuys - I am on kernel version 3.14.3-031403-generic and I am trying to install cpupower - but am getting the following error:03:23
whoeverBeldar: thx, i was checking to see if there where others, other than me, and what disk size they use03:23
ObiwantjeWARNING: cpupower not found for kernel 3.14.3-03140303:23
Obiwantje  You may need to install the following packages for this specific kernel:03:23
Obiwantje    linux-tools-3.14.3-031403-generic03:23
Obiwantje    linux-cloud-tools-3.14.3-031403-generic03:23
Obiwantje  You may also want to install one of the following packages to keep up to date:03:23
unopasteObiwantje you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted03:23
titangianthow do i get my keyboard to light up03:23
cfhowlettdoomlord_ short answer; install and test for yourself; sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde                  will get you the most popular options03:24
marcosI stupidly hit "Startx" while on ssh from putty on a ubuntu server. Now I cant access it using x2go because xserver is refusing access to it although i can still ssh03:24
DaRudeany help  with separate screens?03:24
deSouzaa friend of mine needs help03:24
Obiwantjeoops - sorry about that. getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471061/03:25
Obiwantjewhat is the correct command to install cpupower for my setup?03:25
deSouza<punky> i replced vid drivers via the ubuntu store thing03:25
deSouza<punky> to try and get the gl stuff to work with steam03:25
deSouza<punky> now i only have terminal access broken pipe dont know how to fix03:25
deSouza<punky> need to either get desktop to run so i can try another set of drivers, or someone tell me drivers which actually work03:25
lkthomashey guys, how could I set up "everyone have a key file could login SSH" ?03:25
BeldarObiwantje, THis 14.10?03:25
Obiwantjeyes Beldar 64bit with updated kernel03:25
Obiwantjekernel 3.14.3-03140303:26
BeldarObiwantje, You want #ubuntu+1 that is the devlopment channel.03:26
holsteinlkthomas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys03:26
Obiwantjewill do03:26
Obiwantjethanks03:26
Beldarno problem. ;)03:26
deSouzaanybody can help?03:27
BeldardeSouza, Have them come here.03:27
holsteindeSouza: your friend is welcome to come here and get help from a volunteer03:27
deSouzathey cant03:28
holsteindeSouza: then, tell them help is here when they can make it03:28
deSouzaon a tablet on another network, cant connect to freenode03:28
holsteindeSouza: tell them how to remove the packages they think broke the system.. there is a recovery kernel03:28
deSouzahow do i do that holstein?03:29
holsteindeSouza: sometimes, its as easy as removing or modifying a custom xorg.conf file put im place03:29
holsteindeSouza: you would need to determine what the user has installed.. i typically just ask03:29
holstein!ati | deSouza03:31
ubottudeSouza: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto03:31
deSouzaty03:33
deSouzaim passing it forward03:33
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briHaving multiple issues installing a new OS on a blank partition - no DVD drive or USB available so I'm trying to boot to .iso with UNetBootin, but when I reboot and select the Grub entry, it gives errors. Tutorials explain this process as being exceedingly simple, but..03:41
psusibri, umm... what?  unetbootin prepares a usb stick to boot and install03:42
deSouza!intel03:43
deSouzaholstein, how do i do to get the intel video cards03:43
deSouzalink03:43
|PuNKCaT|hello, I have ISSUES.. need some help please03:44
holsteindeSouza: intel cards dont need drivers like that03:44
deSouzaholstein, ITS |PuNKCaT|03:44
holsteindeSouza: so, your friend likely did something else, or installed something improperly, or got something from a 3rd party03:45
Beldarbri, What is the new OS, you can use grub to boot 'some' iso's, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot03:45
whoever|PuNKCaT|: well what issuses03:45
holsteindeSouza: intel drivers are included in the kernel.. the kernel is modular, so what can be included typically is included03:45
|PuNKCaT|I updated my driver, it SUCKS, I tried updating it a second time - it destroyed the desktop... I just fucking want Steam to run :/03:45
briIt has an install mode where it unpacks an iso to the local drive (annoyingly, it does this loose in / to multiple folders..) and then supposedly boots into it - it calls this a "frugal install" ..03:45
Beldar!language | |PuNKCaT|03:45
ubottu|PuNKCaT|: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList03:45
holstein|PuNKCaT|: please no language..03:45
|PuNKCaT|eh sorry :/03:45
whoever|PuNKCaT|: what driver did you update03:45
holsteinPumpkin-: nothing about linux or ubuntu is preventing you from running steam03:46
holstein!steam03:46
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.03:46
briOh, Mint 16 Cinnamon. Which is in UNetBootin's downloadable list, so I might try that instead of using my own iso...03:46
cfhowlett!netboot03:46
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate03:46
|PuNKCaT|I'm on 12.4.4 and I am having open GL issues03:46
holstein|PuNKCaT|: the steam community suggest the xorg edgers PPA.. is that what you added to install a drvier?03:46
holsteindriver*03:46
|PuNKCaT|I dunno03:46
holstein|PuNKCaT|: well, who can we ask?03:46
whoever|PuNKCaT|: try 14.0403:46
|PuNKCaT|I had everything crash and burn, so I don't have the terminal logs03:47
briActually this might be a version problem.. one website recommends a different one.. let me try that and see what happens, this might be a known issue, heh.03:47
Ben64|PuNKCaT|: updated driver from what to what03:47
holstein|PuNKCaT|: i would need the information about what you installed and how.. where did you get what?03:47
|PuNKCaT|I DON'T KNOW03:47
Ben64step 1. chill03:47
|PuNKCaT|I was following insteructions from someone03:47
holstein|PuNKCaT|: then ask then to undo what broke your system03:47
|PuNKCaT|sorry, it's been a long day03:47
|PuNKCaT|was from a website, which I also lost, when the system burned to the ground03:48
Ben64|PuNKCaT|: what instructions were you following?03:48
whoever|PuNKCaT|: and I got up this morning because someone told me to03:48
holstein|PuNKCaT|: i suggest 14.04 fresh install and come here *before* doing any driver maintanence03:48
whoeverholstein: thx i also suggested that03:48
|PuNKCaT|I don't /want/ to run the non stable version, 12.4 is the  stable one03:48
Beldarbri, That grub iso boot link I gave should boot mint.03:48
Ben6414.04 is stable03:48
holstein14.04 *is* stable, and release.. and LTS..03:49
whoever|PuNKCaT|: where have you been03:49
whoever12.04 is dead03:49
|PuNKCaT|in my hobbit hole03:49
holstein|PuNKCaT|: 14.04 is what i, and the steam community suggest.. and all users here03:49
|PuNKCaT|well that's not what I was told when I installed it03:49
Ben64whoever: 12.04 still has 3 years of support, not dead03:49
lkthomasinteresting that when I create ssh key, it works on my local machine but when I copy .pub key to another host, I can't login to ssh anymore03:49
holstein|PuNKCaT|: doenst matter what you were told.. this is searchable fact.. 14.04 is released and stable03:49
holstein!14.0403:50
|PuNKCaT|so if I install 14. will I wipe my hard drive?03:50
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes03:50
whoeverBen64: oh, i thaught once the new lts came out support was for the prevoious lts would slowly go away -03:50
holstein|PuNKCaT|: all drives fail.. so you will lose that data at some point. might as well make a proper backup now03:50
Ben64|PuNKCaT|: it has the ability to. really depends on how you set up your current partitions03:50
cfhowlettwhoever 5 years support for LTS03:50
holstein|PuNKCaT|: if your system is broken, you may need to fresh install03:50
whoever|PuNKCaT|: yes, because I am not there to get out the clorox wipes and do it for you03:50
whoevercfhowlett: thx03:51
whoever|PuNKCaT|: install 14 and come back is what we all say03:52
|PuNKCaT|yeah thanks SO MUCH03:52
|PuNKCaT|:/03:52
holstein|PuNKCaT|: or, talk us through what you did to break your system.. otherwise, 14.04 install is what steam suggests..03:52
enmilhey. i removed the titlebar and borders of terminator in window/program-specific options (kde kwin) but wanted it back so i removed the setting i made. but its still gone. does anyone know how to get it back? :S03:53
|PuNKCaT|I tried to update the video drivers so the system would say an actual driver rather than standard.. I don't even /know/ if my system will run 1403:54
holstein|PuNKCaT|: the intel drivers in the kernel are the best choice. there is no need to update them03:55
holstein|PuNKCaT|: you can try 14.04 live.. but, any system that can run 12.04 and a modern game would be better off on 14.0403:55
holstein|PuNKCaT|: 14.04 is what steam is supporting now03:56
holstein|PuNKCaT|: could be, you dont get 3d support in linux with your hardware03:56
|PuNKCaT|I don't know03:56
|PuNKCaT|I could run steam on the original drivers, just not the games03:56
|PuNKCaT|now I can't even get the steam consol to load up03:57
holstein|PuNKCaT|: sure.. and you were not promised by the manufacturer of the hardware that you would be 3d support in linux03:57
|PuNKCaT|and I don't have much bandwidth left for the month, so installing 14 could be the last straw03:57
|PuNKCaT|the box is ancient, I don't expect much out of something with onboard intel graphics, but damn.. be /nice/ if the game I paid for would work03:58
holstein|PuNKCaT|: thats not how it works.. you pay for the game.. the game has requirements. you meet them or the game doesnt work03:59
holstein|PuNKCaT|: paying for the game doesnt guarantee anything..03:59
|PuNKCaT|I know that, I'm not thick03:59
|PuNKCaT|I mean it would be /nice/ if I could get my machine to run it03:59
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holstein|PuNKCaT|: no software or driver will allow an ancient embedded graphics intel box play steam games04:00
holstein|PuNKCaT|: it wont04:00
holstein|PuNKCaT|: the hardware manufacturer, nor steam.. nor anyone promised you ghat04:00
holsteinthat*04:00
|PuNKCaT|you don't have to beat the point to death man, it's kinda rude04:00
holstein|PuNKCaT|: you should try and have realistic expectations for the hardware..04:00
holstein|PuNKCaT|: im not trying to be rude.. im trying to give you support.. and factual information04:01
|PuNKCaT|I just want to revert the graphics card back to the original that comes with the 12.4 normally04:01
cfhowlett|PuNKCaT| ask your next support question...04:01
|PuNKCaT|^^04:01
|PuNKCaT|how do I revert back to the original driver04:01
holstein|PuNKCaT|: sure.. just let me know what you installed and how04:02
holstein|PuNKCaT|: did you add the xorg edgers PPA?04:03
|PuNKCaT|I don't know04:03
|PuNKCaT|ok.. do not know, can't tell you04:03
holstein|PuNKCaT|: i'll need to know that to give support on how to revert04:03
|PuNKCaT|ah forget it,04:03
holstein|PuNKCaT|: you can try the recovery console.. you can try looking for an xorg.conf file04:03
holstein!xorgconf04:03
ubottuThe /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. See `man xorg.conf` for file structure and syntax. | Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf | ATI proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd | Nvidia proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia04:03
Geoffrey3holstein: I'm installing an upgrade to 14.04, I did notice that my DNS problem vanished when I used an Ethernet cable plugged into the router directly04:04
holsteinGeoffrey3: i think you are assuming its a DNS problem04:04
Geoffrey3so whatever the problem is, it only happens on wireless04:04
Geoffrey3holstein: well, I'll start by upgrading to 14.04...then see if the problem still occurs04:06
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briBeldar I will have to try that direct grub method you linked to, I was trying unetbootin so I wouldn't have to do manual editing, but that's not flying.. :/04:10
briSometimes the 'easy' way is more trouble than it's worth..04:10
lotuspsychjewhats the idea behind updates not asking password anymore on trusty?04:13
brigoing grub diving, see how this goes..04:19
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Nexardanybody know tutorial for connecting to shared hosting server via SSH?04:22
grant_new to ubuntu. how do i find what version i'm running?04:23
Nexardon right top status bar04:23
CarlFKNexard: what you describe alone isn't really something that needs a tutorial.  what host do you want to connect to?04:23
Bashing-omgrant_: Termianl code -> lsb_release -a <-.04:24
Nexardon about this computer button04:24
Nexardi want to connect to my web hosting server04:24
grant_ty04:25
CarlFKNexard: are you sure they offer ssh?  (aka shell access)04:25
grant_i am using 12.04 lts. its a real real old machine tho... any reason not to go to 14.04?04:28
ajoulI installed psycopg204:29
ajoulbut can't locate it in the folder04:29
ajoulany help04:29
ajoulplease04:29
Bashing-omgrant_: If 12.04 runs descent on the box, 14.04 will run even better.04:30
CarlFKajoul: do you mean python-psycopg2 ?04:30
ajoulCarlFK: yes04:30
ajoulwhat is the location of the module04:30
ajoulso that I can import it04:31
CarlFKajoul: it got installed to one of the many dirs python will search.  in your python code: import psycopg204:31
coinsafter my upgrade to 14.04 my server's ethernet link is pretty slow, can confirm on three other servers04:32
coinsany ideas what caused this? I am using CAT6 across these, all 1gbps hardware. Static IP's, and resolv.conf checks out04:33
grant_ya but i think there was a good reason why i chose not to go to 13.04 lts but cannot remember now why04:33
ajoulCarlFK: yes04:34
ajoulCarlFK: I was going to ln and then the location of the module04:34
rww13.04 wasn't an LTS.04:35
grant_ahh right04:35
coinspls snd halp04:35
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CarlFKajoul: no need.  for a peek about what is going on, run python -c "import sys; print sys.path"04:36
CarlFKajoul: that will show you what dirs python searches for modules04:36
grant_quit04:36
ajoulCarlFK: I get an import error04:38
ajoulCarlFK: how can I locate the file04:38
lotuspsychje!python | ajoul04:38
ubottuajoul: python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python04:38
ajoullotuspsychje: I asked HOW TO LOCATED A PAKCAGE INSTALLED IN UBUNTU04:38
ajoulread04:38
lotuspsychjeajoul: no need for caps, and i was pointing you the #python channel so they might help you also04:39
ajoulthanks but I am asking something simple04:39
ajoulwhat is the folder packages are located in04:39
rwwajoul: dpkg -L python-psycopg204:40
CarlFKajoul: please run these two commands and paste the output: "apt-cache policy python-psycopg2"   and  """ python -c "import psycopg2" """ the paste should look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471239/04:40
ajoulCarlFK: I am using python3 and the psycopg2 is installed for python2.704:41
mgnl04:41
ajoulCarlFK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471241/04:42
CarlFKajoul: python3 may be a problem04:42
ajoulhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7471243/04:42
CarlFKi'm checking..04:42
rwwajoul: if you're using python 3, you want python3-psycopg2 instead04:42
CarlFKoh good.  easy answer.  thanks rww04:43
ajoulrww: thanks it worked like a charm04:44
AcidRainwhere can i find help about connecting to a game that is on the same lan as me?04:47
CarlFKAcidRain connecting isn't specific enough.  What game?04:49
AcidRainCarlFK, lol. a game that came out in 1997, jedi knight dark forces 204:50
AcidRainim not sure what the issue is. i run about 6 servers on 1 computer that is on the lan. everyone else can connect (from external). i cannot connect, from internal04:50
AcidRainabout 3 months ago. this was not an issue04:50
eN_Joyi am on ubuntu 14.04, usually ssh'ed via cygwin, the locale is set to en_US.UTF-8, if the bash prompt contains quotation marks, for example, `rm: remove regular file ‘requirements.txt’?`, the quotation marks are always displayed as `’`, instead of `'`, is this normal?05:04
Jordan_UeN_Joy: Yes.05:13
utsavHii guys i createa a ubuntu 14.04 image for virtualbox but whenever i want to do root level process by using sudo .. i get permission denied05:13
utsav?05:14
Jordan_UeN_Joy: If it bothers you, you can use the locale en@quot.05:14
Jordan_Uutsav: Is this a fresh installation? Are you ising the first created user? What is the exact error message?05:17
utsavbash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied05:19
utsavi am adding a source05:19
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Jordan_Uutsav: If you want to edit a file, the command you execute needs to start a text editor. Right now you're trying to execute your /etc/apt/sources.list, which will never work as it's not meant to be executed.05:22
Jordan_Uutsav: What repository are you trying to add and why?05:23
dcajacob05I have a bunch of 12.04 machines, is there any way to get update packages, like libzeroc from later versions of ubuntu when there is no ppa?05:24
Beldardcajacob05, neither would be supported here, nor advised.05:25
dcajacob05Beldar: thx05:26
dcajacob05Beldar: is that what backports are for?05:27
omarHi all05:28
alban_hi05:28
Beldardcajacob05, I believe the backports are only downloading in developments, not sure though.05:28
Beldar!backports05:28
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging05:28
lotuspsychjeBeldar: can he use the !pinning method?05:28
omarI am trying to downgrade the buggy hostapd package to the 13.10 version, but I still can't get it to work. What can I do?05:28
Beldarlotuspsychje, for a out of release app, I have thought pinning in general was to keep a upgrade from happening.05:29
lotuspsychjeBeldar: oh ok05:30
utsavJordan_U:thanks ... i am adding a source for making new packages05:30
Beldardcajacob05, You see the bots message?05:30
eN_JoyJordan_U: no it doesn't bother, just weird...05:30
lotuspsychjesomeone knows the idea behind trusty not asking password anymore on updates?05:31
Beldarlotuspsychje, in the software updater?05:32
dcajacob05Beldar: thx05:32
lotuspsychjeBeldar: yes, the update icon05:32
Beldarlotuspsychje, A while back the protocol was changed, there are some that need a password, not sure which. I use apt-get generally05:33
lotuspsychjeBeldar: on previous ubuntu versions we needed root to update right05:33
lotuspsychjewas just curious whats the idea behind this05:34
Beldarlotuspsychje, This has been this way for several releases, probably info on the web.05:34
lotuspsychjemaybe make it easier for the user to update?05:34
Beldarlotuspsychje, here's some info, http://askubuntu.com/questions/310132/how-is-software-updater-installing-updates-without-my-password05:36
^vthe select background menu is stupid05:36
^vit gives me a bunch of images and doesnt let me select my own05:37
lotuspsychjeBeldar: tnx mate, some nice answers there, seems installing new software requiers root still :p05:37
Beldarlotuspsychje, Yeah, surprised it was easy to find, viva good foo05:37
lotuspsychje!cookie | Beldar05:38
ubottuBeldar: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!05:38
Beldarmmm05:38
Beldar^v, Do you have a point related to support?05:39
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VoyageIf I want to implement https on my apache httpd server. Do I need to pay some one for CA or its free?05:49
m000gleI use ibus-pinyin as my main IME on Ubuntu 14.04, simply using Shift to switch between English and Chinese.  However, I've noticed that in the latest version, there is frequently a floating toolbar which appears by the cursor.05:50
m000gleThis toolbar is the one with English/Chinese, Full-Half width etc options, and not the character selection.  It, unfortunately, seems to be getting in the way of my typing than helping.05:50
Jordan_UVoyage: http://www.cacert.org That said, the vast majority of browsers don't trust CAcert by default :(05:50
m000gleIs there any way to either disable this floating ibus-pinyin toolbar, move it manually, or place it in a relatively static location?05:50
VoyageJordan_U,  whats cacert?05:52
Jordan_UVoyage: Did you visite the page I linked to?05:53
Voyagek05:53
VoyageJordan_U,  oh. CAcert.org is a community-driven Certificate Authority that issues certificates to the public at large for free.05:54
VoyageJordan_U,  so, I would have to use some master certicifacte in my apache httpd config , (that I got from cacert.org)?05:55
lkthomasguys, is it possible to x11 forward a folder from source to remote server ?05:55
DarwinSurvivorI've got a laptop that has a runaway process causing the computer to almost come to a halt. I cannot even login to a TTY because the login times out. Is there a way to login so I can kill the process?06:04
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DarwinSurvivorNote: rebooting is a last resort because there is some unsaved work in another application that needs to be saved.06:04
scarleoHello, ran a dist-upgrade this morning and apt wants to remove grub-efi-amd64-signed, is that really normal/ok/safe?06:08
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scarleoVery quiet here today or is it just me?06:16
VaticanCameosWhen installing Ubuntu (12.04 LTS), does the order of partitions (swap, /, /boot, /home) matter?06:17
VaticanCameosIf so, what should be the order06:17
Ben64VaticanCameos: doesn't really matter06:17
Ben64VaticanCameos: although if you're installing now, you should install 14.0406:17
VaticanCameosBecause I've been getting kernel panic traces since yesterday on my HP Mini with Intel Atom processor.06:17
VaticanCameosBen64: I have 12.04 LTS on my desktop. I plan to copy my configuration, so I need the same OS.06:18
VaticanCameosI will update both after that is done.06:18
VaticanCameosWell if it doesn't matter I can't understand why the kernel panic is happening. Grub is messed up.06:18
Ben64that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but ok. pastebin the error(s) if you can06:19
VaticanCameosBen64: I did use Boot-Repair on LiveUSB earlier last night (I'm on IST zone) and pastebinned the report here. But there won't be much point doing it again, given that I'm not getting that particular kernel trace now.06:20
VaticanCameosI've seen posts advise setting apart a small /boot partition manually06:20
VaticanCameosI repartitioned with that in mind06:20
VaticanCameosNow I'm getting a grub rescue prompt06:20
Ben64that hasn't been beneficial for years06:20
VaticanCameosls -l yields "No file system found"06:20
VaticanCameosNote: I'd wiped out Windows completely from the laptop when I started out last night06:21
Ben64so you repartitioned... did you reinstall?06:21
VaticanCameosIt will be all-Ubuntu06:21
VaticanCameosI'm thinking I should wipe Ubuntu and reinstall instead of just repartitioning and installing (it does say installing, goes through the setup but I'll wipe now).06:22
Ben64normally i would go / /home swap06:22
VaticanCameosI don't think it can be a UEFI problem since I don't even have Windows now.06:22
Ben64but since the boot limits don't matter anymore, it doesn't matter06:22
Ben64turn off secureboot if you haven't already06:23
Ben64and enabling bios emulation or legacy mode couldn't hurt06:23
VaticanCameosBen64: How do I turn off secureboot?06:23
Ben64that would be in your bios somewhere06:24
VaticanCameosI didn't see it anywhere. Strange.06:24
VaticanCameosPretty shitty BIOS then.06:24
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VaticanCameosWhat kind of FS should /boot be?06:26
VaticanCameosext2?06:26
Ben64i'd recommend against a /boot06:26
VaticanCameosBen64: Why is that?06:26
Ben64computers don't have a problem booting after the first n sectors or w/e anymore06:27
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mharrisThere are other reasons for having a separate /boot. :)06:27
Ben64and it just causes problems, like when you update and run out of space in /boot and then dpkg freaks out06:28
VaticanCameosBut given my scenario, should I be assigning a /boot?06:28
Ben64nope06:28
VaticanCameosFine, going ahead with /, /home and swap06:31
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robb_yo06:39
VaticanCameosBen64: I do not see legacy mode or even Secureboot anywhere in the BIOS. InsydeH20 Rev 3.5 BIOS utility.06:40
Ben64are you sure it is uefi?06:40
VaticanCameosI have no idea about whether it is uefi, but the bios still thinks Win7 is installed...06:41
VaticanCameosFactory installed OS : Win706:42
VaticanCameosOkay, that doesn't mean it think so06:42
VaticanCameosthinks*06:42
Ben64ok so doesn't necessarily have secureboot06:42
VaticanCameosI don't think it does06:42
VaticanCameosAnd yet, I get the grub prompt again06:42
Ben64you already installed?06:42
VaticanCameosgrub rescue06:42
VaticanCameosI reinstalled, yes06:42
VaticanCameosIt fails at apt trying to get packages from the "CD-ROM" (there is no CD ROM on my laptop, I was installing with LiveUSB). Does that matter?06:43
VaticanCameosBut then it says installation complete06:43
FloatingGoathello im looking for the official ubuntu touch IRC channel?06:43
bazhang!touch06:44
Ben64VaticanCameos: possibly. you could have a bad write to the usb06:44
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch06:44
bazhangFloatingGoat, ^06:44
VaticanCameosThe hashes don't match I think.06:45
VaticanCameoshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes06:45
Ben64that's definitely a bad sign06:46
VaticanCameosubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386.iso has a hash different from what my downloaded iso file has, says transmission bittorent06:46
VaticanCameosYet, the torrent file is the same.06:47
VaticanCameosI don't understand06:47
VaticanCameosEverything is the same06:48
VaticanCameosWhy is the hash different06:48
Ben64something must not be the same? try redownloading06:49
VaticanCameosFrom torrents? That is the fastest after all06:49
Ben64torrents have error correction, shouldn't get a bad download from that06:49
VaticanCameosBen64: Exactly06:51
VaticanCameosThen could it be a bad write to the USB?06:51
Ben64possible06:51
VaticanCameosgah06:51
nbros652can I ask a question about QT here? ... Missing widget.06:51
nbros652I don't know if the problem is specific to ubuntu or not.06:53
RyNetask away06:56
rra_I recently tried to instal ubuntu 14.04 along with windows 7 on my laptop. I encounter a blank screen everytime I log in. I tried installing Gnome. but again blank screen on reboot. Please help06:57
gpestanahey!06:57
gpestanaWhat you think it's the best way to stress up the memory to 100% utilization ? I need to perform some simple benchmarks06:58
nbros652I'm trying to follow a tutorial for QT and the qWebView widget is missing. Anyone know how to fix this?06:58
VaticanCameosrra_: Grub is messed up. Is your screen slighlty purple or a black screen with a blinking cursor?06:58
Beldarrra_, Have you tried a nomodeset boot?06:58
VaticanCameosI've been having these problems all night lol06:58
rra_no just blank.06:58
VaticanCameosIs there a purple tinge?06:59
BeldarVaticanCameos, They are reaching the login, way oast grub06:59
rra_with the default background.06:59
Beldarpast*06:59
VaticanCameosAh06:59
Beldar!nomodeset | rra_06:59
ubotturra_: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:59
Beldarrra_: see if that gets you in, seems like your missing the right graphic driver.07:00
rra_I did that. Purged nvida then reinstalled the laterst one.07:00
rra_*latest07:00
Beldarrra_, So you had a desktop?07:01
rra_yes07:01
rra_retarted lightdm and installed gnome07:01
rra_*restarted.07:01
rra_it seemed to work fine then but same blank screen after reboot07:02
Beldarrra_, purge the drivers you installed and try again, since you had a desktop at some point.07:03
rra_also there is an unknown desktop that keeps showing up in display settings. Might that be the problem?07:03
Beldarrra_, Was the working desktop fine? Why the additional installs? never seen a unknown there, not sure.07:04
rra_that's the problem. Initially there was no desktop. So I installed gnome and purged the drivers and reinstalled. the restarted lightdm. THe desktop was now windowed. In the display settings there was an unknown display with the default one. I turned it off. The desktop became normal. THen I rebooted the system and poof no desktop again07:07
letstrythis12.10?07:08
rra_14.0407:08
letstrythisk07:08
letstrythishad similar issues strangely07:09
letstrythisi'm glad your working through it i had no idea07:09
rra_Ubuntu has some problem with nvidia drivers I think07:10
letstrythisright now i installed nvidia divers in an atempt to get opencl 1.1 an failed07:11
Squarepynvidea cards older than 4 years really suck07:11
Beldarrra_, Any proprietary drivers from nvidia used and any kernel upgrades?07:11
letstrythis i am ow stuck with a 2d/3d overlay after reverting/uninstalling07:11
ben__hi07:11
rra_yeah07:11
ben__eny is iran ?07:12
letstrythisjava no longer loads with aps but i kinda like it07:12
Beldarrra_, That a yeah for me?07:12
letstrythisBen yu are iran?07:13
rra_oh yeas. Beldar07:13
rra_letstrythis, you need to install Java07:13
Beldarrra_, The proprietary drivers wont follow a kernel upgrade generally.07:13
rra_in14.0407:13
Beldarnot sure what order any of this happened however07:13
helmut_hi07:13
ben__jo07:14
ben__hi /      ? ? ? ??07:14
rra_brb07:14
saint-ronHave had LibreOffice crashing my system on 14.04. Happens during resizing...  has anyone else experienced it ?07:28
bazhangsaint-ron, how much ram07:28
saint-ron4 gigs... + 8gigs swap07:28
bazhangsaint-ron, what about launching it from terminal, and looking for errors07:28
saint-ronill try that.. thanks for the suggestion.07:28
rra_@beldar is there any way around it then?07:28
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Beldarrra_, Not sure I understand.07:28
rra_what do you not understand?07:28
Beldarrra_, Around what?07:28
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rra_beldar, how to get my screen back?07:28
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Beldarrra_, If you installed a proprietary driver from nvidia than had a kernel upgrade, and I suggested that the drivers do not follow, you would install them again as needed. THe repos versions should follow the kernel.07:29
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* Nyuwunsewu 07:31
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rjd'wordpress' seem to depend on libapache2-mod-php5, when in fact nginx + php5-fpm will be installed. How can this behaviour be controlled?07:34
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rra__Does any one have some experience with elementary os?07:36
ikoniarra__: the guys in #elementary do07:36
ikoniarjd: are they forced dependencies or recommendations07:36
rra__I tried that07:36
rra__they don't respond07:37
ikoniarra__: thats where the info is, so keep waiting in there07:37
rra__well boot-repair failed so I figured people here might have an idea as Luna is based on ubuntu07:38
rjdikonia: forced I guess, it's under apt-cache show "Depends:".07:38
ikoniarra__: we don't support it07:38
llutzrjd: apt-cache depends shows wordpress depending either on libapache2-mod-php5 or php5, so you need one of these packages bein installed07:38
ikoniaso if you install php5 first, it shouldn't use libapache2-mod-php507:39
ikonia(I think)07:39
ikoniaas the dependency will already be satisfied07:39
rjdllutz: I know, and I try to control the order of the installs since it's automated using puppet but somehow apache2 always gets installed. Maybe it's better to investigate how to make puppet do installs a certain order07:39
ikoniaif it's either/or07:39
rjdI was hoping I could blacklist libapache2-mod-php or something07:39
rjdchane priority07:39
ikoniarjd: manifest order07:39
rjdikonia: not executed from top to bottom as specified in the nodes config?07:40
rjdikonia: the nodes has;  include php5... include nginx ... include wordpress. Seems it doesnt go through it from top to bottom though07:40
ikoniarjd: there is a puppet option (I can't remember the name) that tells it to execute the manifest sequentially or "in order"07:40
ikoniamaybe worth looking at that07:40
rjdcool, I will. Just to clarify, no other way of changing prio or blacklisting a dependency? since apache2 is ALWAYS choosen first07:41
ikoniarjd: you can do pinning07:41
ikoniaso you'd pin first, but I'm not sure if that's a great way to approach it07:41
ikoniaI'd need to think about it more07:41
rjdI'll look up 'pinning' too - thanks! :)07:42
CodmadnessproHey guys, Is there any gui's that use only 30mb ram to 100mb ram?07:48
bazhanggui's for what Codmadnesspro07:49
CodmadnessproJust a gui like gnome but only uses the specified ammount of ram above07:49
CodmadnessproPretty much like a desktop but only uses 30mb ram to 100mb ram.07:50
bazhangCodmadnesspro, you mean DE then Desktop Environment07:50
CodmadnessproYes.07:50
bazhangCodmadnesspro, whats your total system ram07:51
Codmadnesspro2gb ram. Gnome uses 1.7gb ram.07:51
bazhangCodmadnesspro, try lxde/lubuntu07:51
Ben64gnome does not use 1.7GB...07:51
CodmadnessproIt does on mine.07:51
Ben64extremely unlikely07:51
CodmadnessproI have graphs07:52
bazhangBen64, depends on the number of extensions07:52
CodmadnessproI only used a basic gnome with nothing open and still soaked up at least 1.7gb ram07:52
Ben64i'm using 2.6GB of ram total right now, on gnome. with steam running and a game in wine, and firefox with about 30 tabs07:52
bazhangCodmadnesspro, so try what I suggested07:52
CodmadnessproYeah I will.07:53
Ben64Codmadnesspro: i think its more likely that you're misreading the memory usage07:53
Ben64linux likes to use unused memory for caching purposes, so some things report it as being used, but its just cache07:53
CodmadnessproNope. I have graphs of ram useage without anything open in desktop07:53
CodmadnessproOh well ill try lubuntu07:54
Ben64pastebin "free -m"07:54
bazhangCodmadnesspro, lubuntu-desktop will bring in the whole suite07:54
CodmadnessproLxde reminds me of raspbian on the raspberry pi.07:55
bazhang:)07:55
CodmadnessproI own 3 raspberry pi's with raspbian on everyone and as the startup button of the logo reminds me of it ;)07:56
Ben64and if you're looking at total system memory usage and saying that is how much gnome is using, you are mistaken07:56
CodmadnessproWell I open up system monitoring and it tells be 75% of ram is being used07:56
ikoniathat's disk cache07:56
Ben64ok, pastebin "free -m" then?07:57
ikoniait's good that the ram is being used, unused ram is wasted ram to a certain extent07:57
CodmadnessproWell I want to run servers so I can't have all the ram being used up.07:57
ikoniado what Ben64 asked07:57
ikoniait's not being used07:57
Ben64i explained cache just a few lines above : /07:57
ikoniaBen64: sorry, missed that07:57
CodmadnessproUninstalled gnome07:58
Ben64<Ben64> linux likes to use unused memory for caching purposes, so some things report it as being used, but its just cache07:58
ikoniawhy ?07:58
ikoniawhy uninstall gnome ?07:58
Ben64i really think you're solving a problem that doesn't really exist, Codmadnesspro07:58
carswellheeeeeeeee07:58
carswellheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey07:58
carswellgooooooooooood nighhhhhhht gays xD07:58
CodmadnessproWtf how did chan serv op you -.-07:59
alnassafiwhat is the different between --clearsign and -a -clearsign???08:33
alnassafiI am talking about gpg and gpg208:33
geirha-a gives you ascii output rather than binary08:34
geirhabut --clearsign already outputs text, so there shouldn't be a difference.08:37
ainxanyone know about gnome ubuntu? that is a unofficial ubuntu ? or what?08:38
malinux_malinux08:42
bazhangainx, using gnome-shell?08:44
DJonesainx: Its an official release if you're ising this http://ubuntugnome.org/08:44
ainxDJones, yes i using it now, and make it me happy with all stuff08:44
ainxbut i mean ubuntugnome is a new desktop basic from ubuntu, and it's wrong ?08:44
Helonghi,all anyone know the QT version on Ubuntu 14.04?08:46
ghartzHelong, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qt&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all08:48
rahuL__Helong, what  do you mean by it? Do you mean to install Qt libraries?08:48
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Bhargav97what's the channel for vmbox oracle?09:13
Bhargav97got it09:14
Bhargav97maybe #vbox09:14
ejoDoes this ring a bell to anyone?  I'm able to ssh into a docker container that I built and ran, but immediately after accepting my password and showing the welcome messages, my session ends.  Connection to localhost closed.09:31
ejoThis happens when I build the container on a base of 14.04 but not 12.04.09:31
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ejo... what's really bugging me is I didn't have this problem one day ago.  Between then and now I was building some VMs with vagrant and salt.  But I can't think of something about that, which would affect this completely separate Dockerfile.09:33
ejo:(09:35
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DATAHEADDoes anyone know what could cause a CUDA install through apt-get to fail?09:39
DATAHEADI traced it to a failure in package nvidia-331-uvm09:40
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DATAHEADError! Application of patch buildfix_kernel_3.12.patch failed.09:40
DATAHEADCheck /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.67/build/ for more information.09:41
DATAHEADI don't find any useful logs there though09:41
DATAHEADI've got it typed up here:09:41
DATAHEADhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224386&p=13025069#post1302506909:41
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lotuspsychje!info cuda09:42
ubottuPackage cuda does not exist in trusty09:42
DJonesDATAHEAD: I'm just guessing, but I would suspect it may be because the nvidia driver is being installed manually rather than through the official repo's09:42
DATAHEADI tried doing it through a .deb file09:43
jelly!info libcuda1-dev09:43
ubottuPackage libcuda1-dev does not exist in trusty09:43
mac_hi to everyone09:44
DATAHEADYeah, I tried to use cuda-repo-ubuntu1304_6.0-37_amd64.deb09:44
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DATAHEADYeah, the guide at http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#axzz31qaYZO9n says to use dpkg on the .deb file and then run sudo apt-get install cuda09:48
mac_hi to everyone09:48
DATAHEADYeah, tried again - running dpkg before apt-get install doesn't help09:51
olskolircok so we're not using sun-java-7 anymore.  What do I want to download now?09:53
Bhargav97I'm in problems09:55
Bhargav97my res is 640x480! I wanna change it09:55
mac_does anyone know if ubuntu 14.04 is vulnerable to heartbleed?09:55
Bhargav97But max is also 640x48009:55
somsipmac_: it's been patched09:55
llutz!sslbug | mac_09:55
ubottumac_: A fix for the recent OpenSSL vulnerabilities (2014-0076 & 0160) has been pushed to the Ubuntu repositories, see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://heartbleed.com/ for more information.09:55
mac_thanks09:55
Bhargav97so now I should do: xrandr -addmode, right?09:55
Bhargav97 but what will be connection type?09:56
Bhargav97I did: xrandr --addmode VGA 1366x768_60.009:56
Bhargav97and it fails09:56
Bhargav97I tried VGA1, DP1, HDMI109:57
Bhargav97and all fails09:57
Bhargav97how to find correct connection type now?09:57
Bhargav97ok09:58
Bhargav97got it09:58
Bhargav97but now09:58
Hardcheesedoes anyone know whether "torify hydra target ssh" is a bad idea?09:59
Bhargav97when i do xrandr --addmode default 1366x768_60.0...it says: Cannot find mode: "1366x768"09:59
Bhargav97what to do now to change resolution?09:59
Bhargav97Please help09:59
OerHeksHardcheese, no support for Brute Forcing Passwords cracking here.10:00
omarHi all.10:01
omarAnyone using ap-hotspot10:01
omar?10:01
DebolazIs it possible to get bluetooth keyboards to work during the LUKS passphrase stage?10:06
omarDebolaz, hi.10:06
ilhamiHEy10:07
ilhamiWhere to locate the JRE in linux=10:07
ilhamiwhere is it usually located I mean?10:07
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omarilhami, Hi.10:08
ilhamiOr maybe I mean the JDK10:08
geirhaopenjdk-7-jdk10:13
llutzilhami: dirname $(readlink -f /etc/alternatives/javac)10:15
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ravi321my10:28
ravi321can anyone help me with my ubuntu problem?10:28
feitingencan anyone explain why mountall and cryptsetup depends on plymouth?10:38
feitingenafaik plymouth is providing a pretty screen to look at while booting, instead of the useful kernel messages and startup messages, and i cannot understand why mountall and cryptsetup should depend on a totally unneeded package like that10:43
Drama_Maker:)10:45
Drama_Makerhello every one10:45
Drama_Makerhow is it going today ?10:45
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sl33k_My screen is freezed. Keys are unresponsive10:54
sl33k_ what do i try? I am on trustyy10:55
KumaranRHi, Is it possible to use complete Ubuntu on 8GB USB flash drive and use it as an alternative Operating System for ever without install on Computer hard disk??10:55
sl33k_What screen combination i try on freeze?10:57
sl33k_*desktop freeze10:57
sixwheeledbeastKumaranR: use pendrivelinux10:58
KumaranRIn which way the Ubuntu would not be suitable in my case, where I need to consider for pendrivelinux?10:59
adscit's possible, but not every computer can boot from USB11:05
cnjKumaranR: pendrivelinux is just a tool to load an linux iso on flash drive, it is not separate distro11:08
KumaranRok11:08
KumaranRI just had read it..11:09
KumaranR>> Ubuntu's  casper-rw feature is also utilized for persistently saving and restoring your changes on subsequent boots.11:09
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KumaranRDo I have to do anything with the casper-rw tool to make the Ubuntu in USB is permanent.. so that the subsequent boots will have changes what had been done earlier (like installation of softwares, operating system config change, etc.)?11:10
mp19uyI'm using Ubuntu 14 on a lenovo ideapad y580 and there is a problem with the battery estimated time of charge, it says 1 minuted to full charge when it has about 70% of battery charge.11:24
KumaranRThanks for the info.. I get to know more about the pendrivelinux now and the setting about the persistent11:26
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jackpithi11:28
jackpitare you thre"11:29
jackpithi11:29
jackpitthere11:29
NexxioNHi11:29
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jackpitwhat are you doing here11:29
jackpitwell11:30
jackpitbye11:30
junka12.10 is no longer supported, you should fix da topic :D11:36
nullbyte_searching for hardware, hdds professionals11:37
yohyWhy can't i download iso files from localhost?11:40
rjdyohy: do you have a service that provides them on a easily accesible protocol locally, then?11:41
rjdlike a web server11:42
ihitdisplayhow do I check if the open source driver for radeon 7850 is installed?11:44
enhuihi11:51
ubuntuser13system profiler not showing cpu ,gpu,temp?11:51
greyhatpythonMy freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04 needs restart every time to detect Wired network. please help.11:54
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KGM70o/11:58
delta_can somebody help me? I'm having problems with the unity launcher.12:05
delta_logging in only gives me the wallpaper and desktop icons, without the launcher or the top bar.12:06
delta_dropping down to a terminal, unity doesn't start because compiz can't load opengl, but ctrl+C ing it and starting compiz gets my launcher back, without the top bar.12:08
delta_weirdly, the guest session works fine...12:10
k1ldelta_: reset the unity user settings. if guest works it must be something with that12:11
delta_I tried ccsm, enabled the unity settings, opengl, reset dconf, both didn't work...12:12
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k1lsudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool    and then    unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity12:13
delta_tried the unity-tweak-tool reset, but unity lacks the indicators in the top bar12:17
cfhowlett!info sfc12:17
ubottusfc (source: syfi): SyFi Form Compiler. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0.dfsg-1.2 (trusty), package size 88 kB, installed size 862 kB12:17
delta_and when I reboot, I get the same situation of no launcher12:18
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OerHeksdelta_, what videodriver did you install, and from where?12:19
delta_I'm dualbooting from EFI on a macbook air12:20
delta_I think its intel graphics, and worked out of the box12:21
SonikkuAmericaNo more 12.10 ! Remember to upgrade to 13.10!12:25
budweiserzhey there12:26
lucifer_howdy12:26
budweiserzdo you use tools for database modelling?12:26
lucifer_no12:26
budweiserzyou let your imps do it right? :)12:28
Ekusheysupport for 12.10 is over, right?12:28
cfhowlett!12.1012:29
ubottu12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/121012:29
lucifer_nope no imps just an operating system designer12:30
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cfhowlett!quantal12:30
ubottu12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/121012:30
budweiserzLTS  = 14.0412:30
OerHeksjust open terminal: ubuntu-support-status # to see which packages are supported12:31
SonikkuAmericahttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/05/01/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-reaches-end-of-life-on-may-16-2014/12:33
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graingert:(12:38
SonikkuAmericaWhy the long face?12:39
enhuihi12:52
sang_pencari_ilmtrouble install intel linux graphics installer 1.0.5 for ubuntu 14.....please help me12:58
Priceysang_pencari_ilm: Why are you trying to run that? There are drivers built into ubuntu.12:59
sang_pencari_ilmyeah i knows but....want try it....13:00
Priceysang_pencari_ilm: Did you read the documentation that came with it? (This is a bad idea, ubuntu probably won't have any documentation for it but intel may.. still.. bad idea)13:01
HyperbyteHi.  After upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, gnome-panel doesn't start with error "unknown dconf database description: <database name>".  This is because of the mandatory profile I specified in /etc/dconf/profile/user.  If I move that file elsewhere, gnome-panel does start.  Any ideas what's up here?13:03
FreederWill upgrading 10.04 via do-release-upgrade work?13:04
dw1should13:04
Freederor do I need to upgrade to 12.04 first?13:04
FreederI get "Could not calculate the upgrade13:04
dw1actually 14.04 wont be offered until 14.04.1 is out unless you use -d param13:05
k1lFreeder: you need to upgrade to 12.04 first.13:05
Freederok13:05
cfhowlettFreeder only if you're on a server13:05
Freederand how do I tell it to go to 12.04 first?13:05
Freederor is that not possible now13:05
k1lFreeder: not calculating the upgrade could be caused if you have 3rd party repos , PPA or 3rd party oackages installed13:05
Freederoh... so do I need 12.04 first or no?13:06
dw1Freeder: from what i can tell you must do 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.0413:06
k1lFreeder: it only upgrade to 12.0413:06
Freederok13:06
Freederso how do I get to 12.04, and how do I search for 3rd party PPAs? It said it disabled them in the installer13:06
dw1Freeder: google the error, there are a few possible issues/solutios13:08
Freederoh, it is still taking me to 1213:09
Freederprecise is 1213:09
Freederb/c .1 of 14 isnt out yet13:09
Freederso thats not the issue13:09
Freederso it must be a package issue13:09
k1lFreeder: 12.04 and 14.04. we also have 12.10 and 14.10 so please be specific on that version numbers13:09
dw1Freeder: perhaps try grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log13:09
dw1Freeder: remove the broken ones and it may work13:11
Freederppa-purge isnt a valid command13:13
FreederI ran the grep, i have tons of broken packages, it seems13:13
AlexPortableCan I repair grub / move it to another hdd from my ubuntu installation?13:16
AlexPortableor do i need live usb for that13:16
cfhowlettAlexPortable live usb yes13:16
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AlexPortablenot normal?13:17
Freederfor your information, sudo apt-get --purge autoremove   did the trick13:17
cfhowlett!grub13:17
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub213:17
Freederfor the next guy that comes along13:17
cfhowlett!cookie|Freeder13:18
ubottuFreeder: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!13:18
cfhowlettFreeder makes sense but good reminder.  thanks.13:18
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keevitajahi, can somebody please explain me my syslog?13:26
keevitajaMay 16 16:25:25 keevitaja-dell wpa_supplicant[895]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED13:26
keevitajaMay 16 16:25:29 keevitaja-dell wpa_supplicant[895]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -3313:26
keevitajait occurs after every 2 minutes13:26
Freederheh, thanks13:26
Freederhave a good day13:26
FreederI'm sure i'll be back later ;)13:26
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budweiserzmaybe broadcasting somthin13:30
Guest941guys , I made a ubuntu Repository mirror to use in local lan . I used apt-mirror tool. when ifinished 64 repo and after that I added i386 to apt-mirror source list and started apt-mirror. They I felt its isnt need to download 32 bit repo also . SO I removed it from source list . But when I type apt-get update from lan machine where I use this downloaded repository to update , it updates all packages and aditionaly showing , cannot fetch 1386 packages. How13:32
Guest941 to get rid of it ?13:32
Sven_vBis there a way for adding a fallback wildcard to openssh's authorized_keys? my git repo server uses that to identify connecting users, and i'd like to have a guest account. thought about making a key pair for guest and distributing both keys, but i think that would undermine all guests' encryption.13:33
juse334HI All ) Can any1 help me. I have a bug - ubuntu freezes in random time and I do ctrl+alt+f1 & ctrl+alt+f7 and it agan works! HELP13:37
whoeverjuse334: is it an upgrade or fresh install and what version13:39
naxilhello13:40
naxilhow to use tail with xxd?13:40
naxilor | head?13:40
Picinaxil: xxd filename | tail  doesn't work?13:41
ranticDoes anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?13:41
naxilpici not.. convert all file..13:42
naxilPici, works with xdd filename | tail but not with xdd filename > foo.txt | tail why?13:43
juse334whoever:  ubuntu 14lts new install13:43
Picinaxil: because you are redirecting the output to a file... not to the screen.13:43
k-josephhi guys, i have gedit, but it is very slow with files which extremely long, which editor is more powerful and may not slow down when i use it to edit files with so so many lines of code and also be able to find "some text" and replace all results at the same time plus doing other exploits with it!!!13:44
Picinaxil: yes. That is how head/tail works.  Look at the manpage for xxd if you only want to convert parts of the file, specifically the length and seek options.13:44
naxilPici, but i remember the command line for see only the header13:44
Picinaxil: xxd filename | head > output13:45
TeraJLhi there, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.8.0-39-generic (i've updated to try to fix this), and my first core is allways at 70%->100% even if i turn off evrything and i only have 1 or 2 process running at 1.0% CPU13:45
juse334HI All ) Can any1 help me. I have a bug - ubuntu freezes in random time and I do ctrl+alt+f1 & ctrl+alt+f7 and it agan works! HELP13:45
naxilyes pici!!!13:46
EleanorEllisk-joseph: Gedit can find and replace. I don't know a faster text editor but you could try searching for "text editor" in the software centre13:46
TeraJLis it normal? i use the cpu indicator and it's set as ondemand13:46
juse334HI All ) Can any1 help me. I have a bug - ubuntu freezes in random time and I do ctrl+alt+f1 & ctrl+alt+f7 and it agan works! HELP13:46
Pici!netsplit13:46
ubottuA netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit13:46
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whoeverjuse334: i had the same issue , I just dealt with it, and after a few updates it was fine, others purged unity13:47
k-josephEleanorEllis: gedit so-far allows me to replace one "a text" at a time whereas i want to replace all references for "a text"  in the whole file, is this possible and how!!!13:47
juse334whoever: I think it is nvidea optimus bug13:48
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juse334whoever:  Do you have nvidea optimus ?13:48
whoeverjuse334: well you could try removing that and using the open source one instead13:48
andread612Docente interno: Pubblicazione del C.V. Tramite portale ClickLavoro.13:49
andread612PuFFo|6|NeWs-1 xdcc send #113:49
EleanorEllisk-joseph: Click the "Replace All" button instead of the "Replace" button at the bottom of the "Replace" dialog box, which you can get to from the "Search " menu13:49
juse334whoever:  ok, ty man )13:49
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whoeverjuse334: nope don't have optimus13:52
e01hello, i am on ubuntu14.04  and have Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 2000, is the proprietary intel driver better than the built in one, and what will be the benefits of installing this from intel?13:52
whoevere01: i don't think it is any better, but the benifit is that you have access to a few extra settings13:53
e01whoever: i mean if it will add extra performance?13:54
oncaI just accidentally deleted my system kernel, how can I get it back ?13:55
oncaI meant to delete something else13:55
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TeraJLhi there, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.8.0-39-generic (i've updated to try to fix this), and my first core is always at 70%->100% even if i turn off evrything and i only have 1 or 2 process running at 1.0% CPU, i have an I7 and the cpu is set as ondemand(from the indicator), with htop i don't find anything using much more than 1%13:56
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oncaapt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic didn't put the file back, what do I have to do to reinstall the latest kernel?13:58
AlexPortablei have 2 hdds13:59
AlexPortableon which hdd should i install ubuntu?13:59
AlexPortableerm13:59
AlexPortablehdd1 contains windows, hdd2 contains ubuntu. on which hdd should i install grub?13:59
dw1onca try linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic13:59
dw1onca (14.04)13:59
oncayah, dw1 that's it thank you14:00
ManDayHello, is there an image of Ubuntu Live (recent) which can be installed on an USB stick as easy as with `dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb` ?14:01
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dw1AlexPortable: why not both :)14:01
AlexPortabledw1: no idea14:01
AlexPortablethen i get 2 boot messages or not?14:01
k-josephEleanorEllis: gedit crushes on saving after replacing the text, the text file is almost 200mb14:02
AlexPortablecrushes xd14:02
shtrwlfTera, try updating the powermanager14:02
TeraJLi've activated the htop processes to show kernel process and i have kworker using 80% of CPU  withou me doing nothing14:03
ManDay(ncm)14:04
AlexPortablehow can i make a hotkey to run?14:06
shtrwlfkworker hogging CPU could be many things14:06
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shtrwlfyou can use ps -aux|more to diagnose processes more - shutting down unnecesary ones might fix the kworker issues14:09
AlexPortablehow can i make a hotkey to run?14:11
AlexPortabletrying to install grub on ubuntu 14.04; grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.14:13
EleanorEllisk-joseph: Sorry, I don't know. Try googling for "ubuntu text editor large files" or look in the software centre for "text editor" and see what the descriptions say14:14
shtrwlfif your dual booting you put grub on the root partition or / of the HDD ubuntu is installed on14:14
shtrwlfwhen it asks for a mount point usually just put /14:16
lotuspsychjeis there an easy way to create a trusty usb stick for both 32bit and 64bit?14:16
k-josephEleanorEllis: ok, thanks14:16
cfhowlettlotuspsychje multiboot14:16
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: is that a package?14:17
shtrwlfabiword?14:17
cfhowlettlotuspsychje I believe it's a method14:17
PlayerHi, I'm trying to set up a VPS running Ubuntu.  I installed 13.10 (as of now our host doesn't support 14.04) and made two user accounts, but I was wondering what groups they need to be in?14:18
PlayerEveryone has sudoers access, but I'm missing a lot because things are broken.14:18
cfhowlettlotuspsychje http://multibootusb.org/14:18
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: tnx14:18
PlayerTo condense my question, what are the default user groups users are assigned in Ubuntu?14:18
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whoeverjsamuel: did you get your freeze issue solved14:20
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bstarekhello all14:23
PlayerHi.14:23
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slashbin33la14:35
itmannenonlinejoin ubuntu-se14:38
leeyaahello14:38
leeyaais postfix-cluebringer the package i need to install if i want to implement policyd for postfix ?14:38
itmannenonlinejoin #ubuntu-se14:39
Noiroi don't suppose anyone knows how to run LoL on Ubuntu, or should I be bugging #wine about that?14:40
lotuspsychje!info lol14:40
ubottuPackage lol does not exist in trusty14:40
SonikkuAmericalotuspsychje: There is no hilarity in Ubuntu.14:41
SonikkuAmerica:D14:41
bluezoneNoiro, wine but good luck, hopefully in the future companies realize the potential here, like valve is beginning to do14:43
Noirolooks like #wine is invite-only, wtf?14:44
bluezonetry ##wine14:44
Noironothing there14:45
bluezoneoh14:45
bluezoneprobably need to register you nick14:45
NoiroI am registered14:45
theevil24ahola14:45
bluezoneNoiro, are you logged in?14:46
theevil24ahola14:46
Noirobluezone, yeah14:46
bluezoneNoiro, then #wine should work, are you sure you're logged in? :P14:47
shtrwlfunity is the hilarity in ubuntu14:47
Noirothis nick is registered and I haven't been switched so I'm pretty sure I'm identified14:47
bluezoneNoiro, maybe your irc client is dumb try #winehq14:48
Noirothat works14:48
portonI've just installed Ubuntu for my dad and don't see how to start a terminal14:48
bluezoneporton, you can search it if you click the button on the top left (in unity)14:49
portonhelp!14:49
PessimistNoiro: try playonlinux. There is a beta script for LoL14:49
xanguaporton: control+alt+t or just type terminal in the dash14:49
NoiroPrecise is 14.04? I can never keep up with names, haha14:54
jostHi! I'm trying to install packages from this PPA: http://ppa.launchpad.net/zentyal/2.2/ubuntu/  - The download just stalls at 0B/26.7KB. Why could that happen?14:55
rahuL__citrix, hii14:55
jostSystem is a 10.04 server14:55
rahuL__citrix, are you there?14:55
Playerjost, is this a local server or remote?14:55
DJonesNoiro: 14.04 is Trust14:56
citrixyes i m here14:56
DJonestrusty14:56
bluezoneTrusty Tahr!!!14:56
citrixmain aaj thoda sa thak gai ti14:56
jostPlayer: I'm logged in via ssh, but the server is in the same building14:56
leeyaahow to find out where apt put cluebrinter's webui14:57
Playerjost, So the request goes through but it stalls at 0B?14:57
omar_Hi all.14:57
PlayerDoes it happen in just this scenario?14:57
jostPlayer seems so - and previous updates worked14:57
Playerjost, Oh, it's an update, apt-get upgrade or..?14:58
omar_I am trying to use ap-hotspot (not in the Ubuntu PPA) to setup an infrastructure hotspot on my laptop, but it does not work even after downgrading hostapd. What else can I do?14:59
jostPlayer: its apt-get install, yes (started by the zentyal migration script)14:59
Playerjost, if you're using apt-get I'd suggest trying sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean14:59
OerHeksomar_, see if your wireless adapter is capable of doing this, has something to wo with the driver.15:00
omar_OerHeks, I was able to do this back in 13.10. I installed 14.04, and that's when it ceased to work.15:00
omar_OerHeks, yesterday*15:01
Playerjost, if that doesn't solve it I would say it's an NIC driver issue.  try resetting the network and/or rebooting the machine.  Alternatively you can attempt to access the package source in your web-browser, do you happen to know what repository it's attempting to download from?15:01
Playerit might just be a matter of an obsolete repo15:01
OerHeksomar_, then seek help by the maker of that program15:01
omar_OerHeks, hmm.. I see. So, as I understand, there is currently no other way to establish an infrastructure connection on Ubuntu?15:02
sl33k_Where could I find the instructions to upgrade to firefox 29? I have firefox 28 installed.15:02
omar_OerHeks, hotspot* :\15:02
Playersl33k_ it should update automatically, try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade15:03
sl33k_Player: Do I enter those as is? This upgrades all softwares?15:04
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Playersl33k_, Yes I'll upgrade all outdated packages on your machine, however apt-get needs root permissions so run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from your terminal.15:05
jostPlayer: accessing via browser work... we're suspecting the network is the problem now, another machine had  the same problem15:06
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Playerjost, routers are weird, eh?15:06
erica_hi i need help15:07
Playererica_, what's up?15:07
erica_i need help is there anyone in here15:07
Playererica_, what help do you need?15:07
erica_anyone15:08
sl33k_Player: thanks! Is this what software center gui does behind the scenes?15:08
Playersl33k_, essentially15:09
Playersl33k_, software center just runs apt-get update at boot and scheduled times depending upon what your settings are.  If you click the "show details" button while it's upgrading or checking for updates, it'll show the terminal output of apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.15:10
erica_IS THERE ANYONE IN HERE?????15:10
sl33k_erica_, Don't ask to ask, just ask15:14
Playererica_ quit :<15:14
PlayerI tried to help them but they just kept asking for help. lol15:15
sl33k_lol15:15
sl33k_Player: great insight about the boot timing for scheduled updates. appreciate it!15:15
Playersl33k_ anytime15:15
ranticDoes anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?15:17
Playerrantic, could you elaborate?  I'm not sure what you're asking.15:17
ikoniarantic: do you want it to just be a domain member/client, or a domain server/participant15:18
compdocrantic, I think thats a relatively new thing, which I havent tried yet15:18
bugtraqhi15:22
bugtraqhi15:23
ingsocanyone know of a bluetooth adapter that would work plug and play on ubuntu 12.0415:26
ingsoci have a belkin adapter that seems to have issues with bluez15:27
near77hi15:28
near77anyone knows15:28
near77why i can't connecti with a local user to a server15:28
near77that allows ldap connections?15:28
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battleaxeanyone here use btrfs? I'm in the process of moving large amounts of unimportant data to it, starting out with a single device and no subvolumes.  I've filled that device up almost full, then added a second device to the btrfs filesystem.  I then ran an unfiltered 'btrfs filesystem balance' and am adding yet more data to the filesystem while it balances.  was this a mistake?  did I only want to balance metadata and not all data?  i c15:30
battleaxean see this is going to take a long time, but i like that it's usable while I do this..15:30
battleaxe(does metadata, after being balanced, act as parity bits that can be used to reconstruct a single failed device?)15:31
homeubuntu 14.4 intel graphics ---????15:33
some1_I was addicted to watching pornography for 10 years, write me if you want to know more :)15:33
ikoniahome: what's the actual question15:33
ikoniasome1_: not welcome in this channel15:33
ikoniasome1_: please don't reference it again, we deal with ubuntu support here15:33
homeikonia: me need drivers15:33
some1_ikonia: it's ok15:33
ikoniasome1_: thank you15:33
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ikoniahome:  shouldn't need drivers15:34
ikoniahome: intel support should be out of the box in ubuntu 14.0415:34
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kfizzIs it possible to install Ubuntu server on an SSD then use two other HDD in a RAID 1 setup for storage?15:35
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bluezoneany idea how long it takes for my applications to be accepted into the ubuntu repos?15:35
ikoniahow have you submitted them ? what repos ?15:35
ikoniayour applications ????15:35
ikoniawhat applications ?15:35
bluezonelol15:35
ikoniawhy is that funny ?15:35
bluezoneI have an application i want to put in the ubuntu store, it has not been submitted yet15:36
ikoniabluezone: ok, so I'd focus on meeting the requirements to get it into the store15:36
bluezonei'm wondering how long it takes them to accept new applicants and new applications15:36
bluezoneok15:36
omar_Is there a way to establish an infrastructure hotspot other than using ap-hotspot?15:37
battleaxekfizz, it's possible for sure.  you have several options for software raid 1, including mdadm, zfs-on-linux, and btrfs to name a few15:37
OerHeksomar_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Wireless_Ad-Hoc_connection_sharing_scenario15:38
kfizzbattleaxe, I originally tried using Intel Rapid Storage Technology to set up the two HDD as a RAID1 and leave the SSD alone. Installed Ubuntu on SSD but couldn't get it to boot. Would it be better to leave the BIOS settings as AHCI, install Ubuntu on the SSD and then configure the RAID post-install?15:38
homeikonia: sudo ???????15:39
erle-cannot start unity-tweak-tool15:40
erle-http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/screenshotfrom94jhqap6g3.png15:40
erle-what does this mean?15:40
battleaxekfizz, oh, I don't know anything about pseudo-hardware raid, ie. intel rapid storage.  at any rate that might not be related to getting ubuntu on the ssd to boot - i'd try to get that working first then work on the raid15:40
erle-all package dependencies etc. are correct15:40
omar_OerHeks, This is only for establish an Ad-Hoc connection, isn't it? Because Android devices do not recognize Ad-Hoc. :\15:40
ikoniahome: I don't understand, sorry15:40
homeyasno15:40
sudormrfomar_, so you are trying to tether your phone to your computer?15:41
kfizzbattleaxe, thanks for the input. This is my first foray into RAID15:41
OerHeksomar_, do they not?15:41
omar_OerHeks, That's what ap-hotspot was created in the first place.15:41
omar_why**15:41
sudormrfkfizz, is this going to be a NAS of sorts or something else?15:42
battleaxekfizz, others know more, but I think you definitely want to use ahci mode on the sata ports.  the advantage of something like mdraid is it can be used independently of hardware, so it's more flexible to recover from15:42
kfizzsudormrf, yes it's going to be a NAS15:44
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sudormrfkfizz, well, generally if you are going to go with hardware RAID people will recommend getting a RAID controller proper.  if you want to talk software RAID I can probably try to be of some assistance.15:44
sudormrfomar_, are you trying to tether your phone to your computer?15:45
mmazinganyone know how to bypass the lock screen from console?15:45
kfizzsudormrf, yeah at this point I think I just need to go with software RAID. Been working on this for over a day with no luck. I'm currently reinstalling ubuntu server on the SSD. Once I get it booted up, I'll probably need some assistance. What's the best utility? mdraid?15:46
mmazingthis has happened a few times, and i probably should open a bug report, but my lock screen suddenly won't accept my password, i can go to tty1 and log in to the console, but can't figure out how to kill the lock screen. i end up having to reboot and lose my work state15:46
omar_sudormrf, I am just trying to make my laptop work as a wifi hotspot unit. Similar to how Connectify works on Windows.15:46
sudormrfkfizz, well I personally use greyhole.15:46
sudormrfomar_, so you are trying to share your laptop's internet connection to your phone....hmm.15:47
sudormrfomar_, ok, give me a sec.15:47
omar_sudormrf, Yup. I was able to do that on 13.10. But after I installed 14.04 yesterday, ap-hotspot ceased to work due to the broken hostapd package.15:48
battleaxesoftware raid is a fairly broad topic kfizz, i highly recommend you have a separate sandbox system with a bunch of cheap small disks to play with :) i've spent days and days fiddling with this stuff.  but for ease of use, md raid 1 was easy to configure15:48
sudormrfbattleaxe, do you use software RAID?15:48
battleaxei've got 12.0.4 on an md raid 1 volume, nothing fancy, and am using btrfs to tie together a mess of 2tb and 1.5tb disks15:49
Hardcheesehow do I purge a user?15:49
battleaxei also explored zfs-on-linux, but that was a bit beyond me, and beyond my cheap hardware too15:49
sudormrfbattleaxe, does btrfs allow for more dynamic expansion of pools?  I think that is one of the drawbacks of ZFS.15:49
sudormrfomar_, did you see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453877/cannot-create-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-14-0415:50
battleaxesudormrf, i'm just starting out with btrfs, but it does seem to do exactly that.  I've started with 1 2tb, added a second 2tb, and am adding to the filesystem while balancing it, with plans to just keep on going.. who knows how it'll work out, i barely understand how btrfs works :P15:50
sudormrfbattleaxe, heh.  I have read quite a bit about both btrfs and zfs.  does btrfs require the same amount of overhead as ZFS?15:52
omar_sudormrf, Yup. Been there, done that. Even after downgrading hostapd, it didn't work. :\15:52
battleaxeHardcheese, purge a user?  do you mean something like 'sudo userdel <username>' and then 'sudo rm -rf /home/<username>' ?15:52
battleaxesudormrf, i think i should be asking you the questions then.  my case is hardly a busy environment, just a media server for 2 people15:53
sudormrfbattleaxe, that is pretty much what mine is.  I don't use btrfs or zfs, though.  I have considered them.15:53
battleaxeI've used an unraid server for years, and just now am changing it up.  not for any overly necessary reason either..15:54
sudormrfomar_, hmm.  it looks like this is a problem with the package in 14.04.15:54
omar_sudormrf, apparently so..15:54
sudormrfbattleaxe, heh.  I know that feeling.  I have been looking in to rebuilding my server as well.  just because :D.  I looked at unraid and freenas (tried freenas in a VM) and openmediavault as well.15:55
battleaxethe grass is always greener!  and I like freenas, and would like to move to using that to manage a zfs storage box, but I need beefier hardware, so for now I'm just tooling around with btrfs.  It seems magical the way it's working and I'm kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop and something to go wrong :P15:56
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Hardcheesebattleaxe: yeah. But you can just use sudo userdel <username> -r apparently, to skip that lats command15:59
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battleaxeHardcheese, well, excellent16:00
fightingirish12hey guys i just installed ubuntu 12.10 and im having some issues installing the flashback. im able to get to the terminaland type ui16:02
spaztikhey everyone, i'm looking for a multi-protocol, multi-account-per-protocol chat client that doesn't suck... Pidgin is ok, but it crashes every 10-15 minutes due to sqlite (where nothing else I'm using crashes sqlite libs, including apps i've written to try and replicate crashing)16:02
spaztikany suggestions?16:02
fightingirish12and type in sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback16:03
lavvoTo upgrade 12.10 to 14.04 from the command line, should I just replace the code name in sources.list with "trusty"? Or do I have to do one upgrade at a time?16:03
spaztikfightingirish12: you mean fallback?16:03
sudormrfbattleaxe, I have something close to 40TB of storage at my place16:04
fightingirish12http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/how-to-install-and-tweak-gnome.html16:04
fightingirish12flashback16:04
fightingirish12E: Unable to locate package gnome-session-flashback16:04
fightingirish12that is my error^16:04
spaztikahh, guess it changed names16:04
spaztikdid you search apt-cache for flashback?16:04
battleaxesudormrf, only about 8TB here.  i'll check out greyhole, never really heard of that16:04
fightingirish12not yet, how would i go about doing that?16:05
spaztikapt-cache search flashback16:05
spaztikso, i think in your 12.x repositories it'll still be called fallback16:05
fightingirish12oh ok16:05
spaztiksounds like fallback->flashback rename didn't happen until 2013-09-2516:05
spaztikwhich was a few years after 12.x release16:05
delinquentmeIs it possible to disable the auto-maximize in Unity when I drag a window to the edges of the screen?16:05
fightingirish12so sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback16:06
delinquentmeI would like it to *just* snap to the edges at its current size16:06
spaztikyou can try that, if it doesn't work just search for fallback, and grep for gnome16:06
spaztikapt-cache search fallback | grep gnome16:06
spaztikdelinquentme: i think it's the MOVE WINDOW plugin?16:07
sudormrfbattleaxe, it is neat, it relies on samba, so there is that.16:07
fightingirish12brb16:08
fightingirish12lemme see if this works16:08
spaztikk16:09
spaztikdelinquentme: disable grid plugin in ccsm, should be good to go16:10
sudormrfbattleaxe, I have been working on building a new server.  will still probably use greyhole, just making this one more spartan.  building the conf files for all the stuff I need in a VM so I can just move everything over real quick on the day I decide to pull the trigger.16:10
Hardcheesetrying to update. But a few of the packages servers are down.. so I can't install ANY of the updates. What do I do?16:10
Guest3947Friendly reminder not to join #pandacoinpnd16:11
spaztikHardcheese: you mean your PPAs? cuz all the ubuntu servers should be up16:11
ekristenhas anyone see a ubuntu server show connections as established, but the source server showing no connection via netstat16:11
qin_Guest3947: try this on #freenode16:12
Guest3947Might as well.16:12
delinquentmespaztik, $ gconftool-2 --set /apps/compiz-1/plugins/grid/screen0/options/top_edge_action --type int 0 per: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72452/how-to-turn-off-compizs-drag-to-maximize-behaviour16:14
spaztikdelinquentme: nice16:15
Hardcheesespaztik: it appears that my "update check" so to speak was old, and the update manager tried to download packages that doesn't exist anymore.16:15
spaztikdelinquentme: AH, that's what those settings are in ccsm... i thought for some reason it was defining the locations of the grid, not that they'd snap :S16:15
spaztikHardcheese: so you're good?16:16
Hardcheeseyeah, thanks :). I just updated the "what to update" thing.16:16
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delinquentmeYeap! spaztik  Added to configuration script !!16:17
johndowIf I put ubuntu on my older desktop computer, like version 10.10 are there security risks with doing that?16:17
spaztikdelinquentme: nice, yeah i just played with the settings.. i just disabled it as well, was kinda annoying16:17
spaztiki love linux :P16:17
c|onemanI like windows xp16:17
spaztiklol16:17
johndowc|oneman, dude xp rocks.16:17
spaztiki like win7/816:18
johndowVista was the best though.16:18
spaztiklol16:18
c|onemanheh.16:18
johndow;)16:18
spaztikvista wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be.... esp. once sp3 came out16:18
c|onemanI want my address bar.16:18
* Monotoko is still on Vista16:18
johndowwaht..?16:18
c|onemanvista didn't offer anything compelling over xp though. so even if it was 1% worse, it was too much.16:19
Monotokonever could be bothered buying Windows 716:19
dw1!ot16:19
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:19
spaztikuhhhh.... vista brought the win2k true multithreaded processing16:19
spaztikin xp if an app crashed, your whole OS would hang16:19
johndowDoes anyone know if I put a real old version of Ubuntu on my old desktop, is this a big security risk?16:19
spaztikjohndow: security is only as good as the administrator16:20
c|onemanprobably johndow, it it no longer recieves any updates16:20
dw1johndow: well it wont have any updates so possibly16:20
spaztiki.e., if it's on a private lan, not likely16:20
fartfaceIf I was to connect my Ubuntu box to a VPN, would that prevent me from being able to SSH to it from the normal address?16:20
fartfaceRemotely.16:20
johndowdang hardware won't run newest version very effectively16:20
spaztikjust because it's old, and there are packages that have vulns, doesn't mean you're subject to them16:20
johndowi guess i could try xubuntu, someone told me it could be ran on old machines16:21
dw1johndow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available16:21
johndowok thx16:21
dw1johndow: xubuntu and lubuntu are just regular ubuntu but with lighter desktop managers16:21
dw1johndow: which you can install anytime16:22
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surprisetrexIf 'sudo lspci | grep -i vga' doesn't show my graphics card - is it likely to be a hardware issue?16:22
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johndowdw1, well i need a distro that doesn't take very much RAM to run it.16:22
dw1johndow: yeah, install a lighter desktop environment over regular ubuntu16:22
johndowok16:23
dw1johndow: see link :)16:23
johndowlooking now16:23
ConnextionEvalCan anyone help me on this linux error i keep getting every now and then http://i.imgur.com/eDa1X0V.jpg16:23
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johndowConnextionEval, lol.16:24
giacomo_Hi all16:24
dw1johndow: i run LXDE / lubuntu on a very low power netbook and it works good16:24
johndowConnextionEval, sicko shit man16:25
qin_!op | ConnextionEval16:26
ubottuConnextionEval: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!16:26
exploitI run Ubuntu 14.10 on my HP G71-333NR Notebook and run very good16:26
johndowthanks16:27
exploitany native C++ for Ubuntu?16:27
QuetzaHow can I convert a binary that uses loads of shared libraries into a single self-contained binary with no library dependencies?16:27
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qin_Quetza: add libs to package?16:28
giacomo_How can I use whois in irssi?16:28
Quetzaqin_: I want a single binary, not a package with all the libs16:28
exploityou want binary file?16:29
ManDayI've booted 14.04 LTS, does anyone know where to get SKYPE from?16:29
exploitfrom the Internet16:29
ManDayI've added "Canonical partner" but when I enter "skype" in the Ubuntu Software Center, I get no suitable results16:29
exploitwww.skype.com16:29
tmagerManDay: you can just get it from their website, the really backlevel version for Ubuntu works fine16:29
ManDayok ty, - just out of curiousity, why is it not in the partner repo?16:29
qin_Quetza: Whatever you trying to do is not Linux style, publishing package with dependencies is rightway, or script.16:30
exploitI have Skype and work fine on Ubuntu 14.1016:30
QuetzaI have all the source and am building on a vagrant box. Instead of linking dynamically, I want the libraries all included in the binary so I can copy across a single file16:30
ManDayexploit, which version should I download?16:30
exploitwait let me check16:30
ManDayoh16:30
ManDayheh, skype just popped up in the software center16:30
ManDaystrange thing16:30
ManDaywhile I was chatting here, the software center blinked and skype appeared16:30
qin_Quetza: oups, still do not get a concept of binary file to do so.16:31
ManDayHm, but I get an error no less16:31
Quetzaqin_: I mean a single executable file16:31
ManDayWhen I click "install" I get a message that This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.16:31
tmagerManDay: just get the one from their website, I've never had much luck with the one on software center16:31
ManDaytmager, which version would that be then?16:32
exploitlook16:32
exploitSkype 4.216:32
ManDayheh?16:32
ManDayI mean which download?16:32
exploittry this code16:32
tmagerManDay, there's one that's for like ubuntu 10.04 or something I think, that one works fine16:32
exploit wget -O skype.deb http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.13-1_i386.deb16:32
exploitsudo dpkg -i skype.deb16:32
exploitsudo apt-get -f install;rm skype.deb16:32
ManDayThey offer one for ubuntu 10 and one for ubuntu 1216:33
tmagerManDay the 12 one then I guess16:33
exploitWhat version of Ubuntu you have?16:33
ManDayaight16:33
ManDayexploit: 1416:33
ManDayits the recent live cd16:33
exploithere the site http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/skype-released-new-version-install-in.html16:33
exploittry this page16:33
ManDaythat's equivalent to the 12er thing16:34
ManDayill try to install it now16:34
ManDayblargh... wrong architecture i38616:35
exploityou have 64bit?16:35
ManDayyeah16:35
ManDayand i downloaded the one labelled "multiarch"16:35
ManDaywhat is that "multi"? sparc?16:35
exploitok16:35
exploitlook man16:35
exploitfor install Skype on Ubuntu is really easy16:36
exploityou can download from your terminal16:36
rahul___citrix, lmao16:36
Hardcheesethe update manager does not suggest me to update :(16:36
Hardcheeseupgrade*16:36
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ManDayexploit: i just downloaded that very file16:36
exploittry this16:36
Hardcheeseif I apt-get dist-upgrade gives nothing. I'm on 11.0 and want up16:36
exploitsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install16:37
Beldar!11.10 | Hardcheese16:37
ubottuHardcheese: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 9, 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.16:37
Hardcheese!upgrade16:38
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade16:38
Beldar!eol | Hardcheese16:38
ubottuHardcheese: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:38
exploitdon't forget your sudo command before the apt-get if you are on Ubuntu16:38
ManDayI followed the exact steps here http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/skype-released-new-version-install-in.html16:38
ManDayWhat I get is :16:39
ManDaydpkg: error processing archive skype.deb (--install):  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)16:39
exploitok16:39
exploittry this16:39
exploitsudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine:i386 gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386 sni-qt:i38616:39
ManDayi guess i'll just get the i386 liveimage then16:39
ManDayexploit: huh?16:39
ManDaywhat good is that gonna do?16:39
ManDayah16:39
exploitfix the problem with 64bit16:39
ManDayit's on that page16:39
BeldarManDay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  the ubuntu repos version is suggested16:40
exploitYeah16:40
BeldarManDay, there is no 64 bit iamage of skype16:40
exploityes16:40
ManDaygtk2-engines-murrine16:40
exploitman go to the end of the page see16:40
ManDayE: Unable to locate package gtk2-engines-murrine E: Unable to locate package gtk2-engines-pixbuf E: Unable to locate package sni-qt16:40
ManDayexploit: I already tried the repo version16:41
ManDayIt also gives a wrong arch error16:41
exploitsudo add-apt-repository"deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lbs_release-sc) partner"16:41
exploitsudo apt-get update16:42
ManDayerratum: It gives an error about unment deps16:42
ManDayexploit: I do read the same page16:42
ManDayhere is the error I get:16:42
ManDayThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:42
exploitsudo apt-get install skype && sudo apt-get -f install16:42
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ManDayexploit: no need to quote the commands, i can see them myself16:42
BeldarManDay, Did you enable multiarch from the commands in the wiki, and look close to who says what to you.16:42
ManDayBeldar: ah, ok16:43
Beldarskype is in the repos, now no need to add a repo16:44
exploitYeah16:44
ManDayBeldar: the instructions from the wiki seem to work, at least it's installing something now16:45
exploitany new version of Wine16:47
ManDayit installed successfully, thanks exploit and Beldar16:47
exploitYou welcome16:47
exploitI am on Skype now my nickname is gundamio16:47
exploitadd me16:47
nishahi16:50
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Guest1153hello all!16:50
exploithi nisha16:50
Guest1153I need help installing audio drivers in a presario 2100 in 13.0416:51
Guest1153i get sound with 14.0416:51
Guest1153but no wifi16:51
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majodi have system ssd and another 1TB hard drive mounted...id like to be able to install some software from the software center, like games, to to the 1TB drive, for example to /mnt/data/games/..., is it possible?16:52
exploitdid you check your wifi connection16:52
exploitIt possible16:52
daftykinsmajod: i doubt many of the games are really that big via the software center?16:53
BeldarGuest1153, 13.04 will be eol soon 13.10 is already, not the best choice 12.04 or 14.04 would be better. If wifi is the issue, it is likely fixable, or a cheap usb wiki flash.16:53
majoddaftykins, it doesnt matter how big they are16:53
Beldarwifi*16:53
daftykinsBeldar: sorry to second guess, but pretty sure 13.04 has been gone since January?16:54
Guest1153thanks Beldar16:54
exploitcheck on your terminal ifconfig to see what going on16:54
Guest1153everything works except the sound grrr16:54
daftykinsmajod: what do you believe is the benefit to moving them to the HDD then?16:54
Guest1153that's the only thing I need16:54
Guest1153all the other distro have no problem with the sound16:54
Guest1153but I had a lot of problem with the WiFi16:55
Beldar!13.0416:55
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring16:55
Guest1153I bought a dungle and it works but not in 14.0416:55
exploitmaybe your wifi card inside your notebook is not work fine.16:55
Guest1153ok16:55
majoddaftykins, to install software where i want it to16:55
Beldardaftykins, No problem, man it seems eol.16:55
BeldarGuest1153, So 13.04 is actually eol.16:56
PlogFloydanyoneobdy know php and can explain this error? http://goo.gl/mzptU5 ?16:56
daftykinsmajod: you'd have to mount the path most programs want to install to, to the HDD via a manual path edit16:56
daftykinsmajod: i don't think you can override the path packages want to install to16:56
majoddaftykins, well, if i can for example download compressed games and just uncompress them to my hdd and play, id like to be able to do that with games in software center...if its not possible, then ok16:57
Guest1153I a going to try 13.10 now16:57
Guest1153thanks!16:57
daftykinsmajod: no packages don't work like that. you could try and find said games manually... but you're likely to get issues running them if they're not meant for ubuntu specifically.16:58
Beldaroh my another eol, oh well.16:58
citrixhii16:59
daftykinshello.16:59
exploithello17:02
riverloophi everyone17:04
rahul___citrix, jj17:04
riverloopCan I align desktop icons to right, like OSX?17:04
Ingrid18 You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy17:05
theadminuh...17:05
theadminIngrid18: That's offtopic, and spam. This isn't welcome here.17:06
compdocI think he knows :)17:06
tessaraktMy upgrade to 14.04 terminated in the middle because of too many configuration errors ...17:08
ranticDoes anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?17:08
tessaraktand now sudo crashes, so I don't know how to continue :-(17:08
g3ekhi. somebody uses ubuntu on a phone?17:09
Beldartessarakt, If you want help here any errors need a pastebin and context.17:09
daftykins!touch | g3ek17:09
ubottug3ek: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch17:09
tessaraktBeldar: there is no context17:09
tessaraktI just get a "Speicherzugriffsfehler"17:09
Beldartessarakt, Really you gave one or two just no real details that we can use to help.17:10
tessaraktand the log of the Ubuntu upgrade went away when I pressed x17:10
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tessaraktI know that _normally_ I could just continue by repeated executions of apt-get -f install, apt-get dist-upgrade and dpkg --configure -a17:11
tessaraktbut all these need superuser rights17:11
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daftykinstessarakt: what exactly happens when trying to run e.g. "sudo -i" ?17:11
tessarakt"Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)"17:12
daftykinsi see17:12
daftykinstessarakt: truthfully, if you have much data i would backup and clean install 14.04. if you insist on trying to fix it you can reboot and try the recovery boot via GRUB to get a root shell however.17:12
daftykins*don't have much data17:13
tessaraktwell, I _could_ just copy over the system from my notebook or something like that ...17:13
davidnknightAnyone know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time?17:15
omar_So, as I get it, 13.10 is no longer updated?17:16
daftykins!13.1017:16
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) was the 19th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes17:16
davidnknight!12.0417:16
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120417:16
daftykinsomar_: 9 months, so that makes it july - practically dead yes.17:16
omar_daftykins, That's too bad.. :\17:17
samppadyI have nasty overscan problem on hdmi i am using intel nuc, is there way fix overscan problem?  pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lp1s61md72ihbb/20140516_200917.jpg17:17
davidnknight!14.0417:17
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes17:17
daftykinsomar_: what's up exactly?17:17
daftykinsdavidnknight: if you want to go nuts with the bot please query it17:18
daftykins(private message)17:18
davidnknightOK. Sorry.17:18
omar_daftykins, I am thinking of downgrading to 13.10 in order to be able to use the "hostapd" application again, which is totally broken in 14.04.17:19
davidnknightSo, anyone know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time?17:19
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daftykinsomar_: mmm, that would definitely be a lot of effort for just a couple of months.17:19
daftykinsomar_: have you attempted to find out if the issues are bugs and will be fixed anytime soon?17:20
necrogamiAny idea why when i change my network interface to vmbr0 ip addr reports the interface as UNKNOWN17:21
omar_daftykins, The broken package has been reported on launchpad, yes. And it's even set to "confirmed" and "critical", but I'm not sure how long it's going to take until it's fixed.17:21
omar_daftykins, In fact, some bugs are simply never fixed. So.. you never know. :\17:22
daftykinsnecrogami: maybe... that interface doesn't exist? :)17:22
necrogamidaftykins: it's a vritual bridge17:22
daftykinsnecrogami: yeah i got that from the name... but does it actually exist? what's the full story, what are you *really* doing?17:23
necrogamiI'm setting up virtual servers17:23
resinatewhere are the ubuntu tutorials?17:23
necrogamithey route though a virtual bridge17:23
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tessaraktwhat I probably need is a statically linked sudo ...17:24
daftykinstessarakt: what i suggested would seem easier.17:24
hexhaxtronWhat is the deferwq process for?17:26
YokoBRhi guys, i'm on ubuntu 64 bit and i'm trying to run an app but i get "error while loading shared libraries: libgnome-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"17:26
ikoniaYokoBR: what app17:26
ikoniaYokoBR: sounds like it depends on an obsolete library thats not installed on your system17:27
YokoBRtululoo17:27
ikoniaYokoBR: where did you get the app ?17:27
daftykinsnecrogami: use 'ifconfig -a' to confirm the interface exists with that name and is up17:27
davidnknightI need to know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time? I tried `ssh-agent bash` but it resets after each terminal close.17:28
ikoniadavidnknight: use gnome-keyring to hold your keys17:28
ikoniadavidnknight: or something along those lines17:28
YokoBRikonia, from their website. Seems it's because i have the 64bit version of that lib17:29
YokoBRand i need the 32bit version17:29
ikoniaYokoBR: you actually have the 64bit version, I'm susprised that's installed either17:29
YokoBRikonia, yep, but how can i have the 32bit package?17:31
ikoniaYokoBR: I don't know if the 32bit library is available as a compatability library17:31
ikoniaI wouldn't advies installing the 32bit library from the 32bit repos to create a conflict17:32
davidnknightikonia: thanks, I'll try that now.17:32
YokoBRomg.. so there's no way to run it17:32
ikoniaYokoBR: get the 64bit version of the binary ?17:32
ikoniaYokoBR: rebuild it yourself ?17:32
ikoniaYokoBR: see if anyone has it packaged for 64bit17:33
ikoniause a 32bit OS17:33
ikoniamany ways17:33
ikoniadon't know how realistic they are though17:33
Israphel2Can I have teamviewer 8 and 9 on Trusty?17:33
daftykinsIsraphel2: sure, download their 32-bit .deb17:33
Israphel2daftykins: I tried but 9 replaces 817:34
Israphel2I need both17:34
daftykinswhy...17:34
Israphel2cause 9 doesn't work with other people using 817:34
daftykinsget them to update17:34
Israphel2and viceversa17:34
dino82I hate teamviewer for that reason17:34
Israphel2I wish I can17:34
Israphel2but customers are always right17:35
Israphel2I was trying the tar.gz version17:35
Israphel2but I couldn't even run the checklib17:35
daftykinsugh17:35
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riqdiiz!Ubuntu for phones17:37
ubotturiqdiiz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:37
riqdiizok17:37
daftykinsriqdiiz: #ubuntu-touch17:37
riqdiizk daft thanks.17:38
Guest54470How to find user identity with uidNumber? id -a 5555 does not output anything. but when i do id -a username it shows the informations. Any help please17:38
ikoniaGuest54470: where are your users held17:39
Israphel2looks like it works in ~ but not in /opt17:40
Guest54470There are many servers e.g. qa01,qa02...... but i have logged in a specific server, and when i do cat /etc/passwd it does not show all the users. I just wanna mke sure that specific uidnumber is used by the specific user17:41
Guest54470<ikonia>17:41
ikoniaGuest54470: so what are you authing against, ldap, nis, ?17:42
Guest54470<ikonia> ldap17:42
ciaobelliciao17:43
ciaobelli!lista17:43
ubottuciaobelli: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:43
Guest54470<ikonia> earlier two user have the same Uidnumber so there was a conflict between the users. so i gave one user new uidnumber but i just wanna make sure it conflicts with another users17:43
ikoniaGuest54470: so what are you authing against, ldap, nis, ?17:44
Guest54470<ikonia> ldap servers17:44
ikoniaGuest54470: so, getent should work, or ldapsearch should too17:44
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Guest54470<ikonia> I have assigned one user randomly uidnumber......how can I make sure that is not use by another users?17:45
ikoniaGuest54470: I just said, getent, or ldapsearch17:46
davidnknightikonia: I don't think Gnome keyring will work for my use case. It requires a master password to use stored credentials right?17:46
geniiGuest54470: grep uidnumber /etc/group17:46
ikoniadavidnknight: it just requies your key passwor17:47
ikoniagenii: won't work, he's using ldap17:47
geniiikonia: Aaah, OK17:47
davidnknightAnd there's no future password to unlock the use of stored passwords?17:47
ikoniadavidnknight: no, just the key17:47
ikoniadavidnknight: eg: it stores the key you want17:47
davidnknightDo you know if this will work with ansible?17:47
davidnknightBasically, ansible is unable to clone a private repo because it requires a passphrase for the ssh key, which ansible doesn't prompt for and instead just hangs.17:48
ikoniadavidnknight: as an odd twist, someone asked almost this exact question around 4 days ago, and I've never done it, but research suggests it "should"17:48
Guest54470<ikonia> <genni> thanks17:48
ainxanyone know best game morpg for linux?17:48
daftykinsainx: that is not an appropriate question for here17:49
omar_So, basically... Neither Ubuntu supports infrastructure out-of-the-box, not Andriod supports ad-hoc.. How ironic.. :\17:49
ikoniaomar_: ubuntu supports infrastructure just fine17:49
davidnknightsudo apt-get install libgnome-keyring-dev17:49
samppadyCan someone help, Intel nuc hdmi Tv overscan problem is there easy way to fix it?17:49
davidnknightThis is the right package?17:49
ainxoh okay, that good daftykins17:49
lluadIs apt-cacher-ng still state of the art for caching debs?17:49
ikoniadavidnknight: thats the development package17:49
omar_ikonia, Really? Could you please help configure it then?17:49
ikoniaomar_: you should be able to do it thorugh network manager17:50
ikoniaomar_: there are times it won't work if your network card uses certain propritary drivers17:50
omar_ikonia, hmm. I see.17:50
PraxiIf anyone can help with a udev rule; http://askubuntu.com/questions/466480/trying-to-create-udev-rule-to-mount-removable-drive-exfat-partition17:51
daftykinsi believe there's a slight misuse of terms there, infrastructure means connecting to APs, not hosting an AP17:51
ikoniaright, is that not what he wants ?17:51
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omar_ikonia, Okay. I will try it as soon as I get home, and get back to you later in case I face any issues. Is that okay?17:53
ikoniaomar_: just ask the channel if you have problems17:54
omar_ikonia, Okay sure. Thanks.17:54
riverloopDoes anybody know how to align the desktop icons to the right automatically as in OS X?17:54
riverloopOr is this impossible?17:55
ikoniariverloop: we support ubuntu here, not OS X17:55
omar_ikonia, Just to make sure we're on the same page here. I am talking about infrastructure hotspot (in case there's any difference).17:55
ikoniariverloop: try #macosx channel17:55
LinksEzHi is there a reason remmina would not use the proper sound drivers or something?17:55
ikoniaomar_: yeah, thats different than what you asked, but I believe network manager should also allow this17:55
riverloopikonia: you totally missed my point.17:56
daftykinsikonia: i believe you misread riverloop17:56
riverloopI want to align desktop icons to the right, in ubuntu.17:56
Pessimistriverloop: I don't think so and I don't see the point why would any developer waste time on such funcionality17:56
ikoniariverloop: oh, as in OS X17:56
ikoniariverloop: sorry, miss-read17:56
omar_ikonia, hmm... I see.17:56
riverloopPessimist: I prefer right-aligned icons. Just asked to see if there's any way to do that.17:57
omar_ikonia, The problem is, all how-tos are talking about making an infrastructure hotspot through an app called ap-hotspot, which depends on another app called hostapd, which is broken in 14.04.17:58
Maskywhen I started using gnome, some of my non-gnome applications have strange colors (ie: black background). Does anyone have any ideas how I could fix this and return the colors to normal?17:58
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Trudkoguys where should I put Android studio, under the /opt?18:05
ikoniaTrudko: anywhere you want18:06
Trudkoikonia: whats common plae18:06
Trudkoplace18:06
ikoniathere is no common place18:07
ikoniait's up to you18:07
trismTrudko: I just put it in my home directory, ~/Projects/android/, otherwise when it updates you'll either have to own a directory in /opt or be root18:08
thescorpIs the problem with multimonitor and SLI still around?18:08
bluezonei see getting my app onto the ubuntu story will be a big mess :(18:09
EleanorElliscd ~18:09
erictr1cki installed eclipse from the ubuntu software center but it will not load when clicking on the launcher that was created after the install. i fires up with no issues though when typing eclipse into the terminal.18:09
olikanoliirc://irc.abjects.net/beast-xdcc18:10
ikoniaolikanoli: please don't spam that stuff18:10
EleanorEllisI can't move anything to the Trash. I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/288513/cant-move-files-to-the-trash but this didn't work18:10
olikanolisorry18:10
ikoniaEleanorEllis: what happens when you try18:10
Ugb3Hey guys, do you know if there is any incompatibility issue with 14.04 and old Athlon 64 ?18:10
daftykinsUgb3: shouldn't be18:11
daftykinsUgb3: something going wrong?18:11
Ugb3When i try to bot the cd I get stuck with the 5 orange dots.18:11
EleanorEllisikonia: Sorry, I accidentally pressed enter before I had finished. However, nothing at all happens. When I ls from ~/.local/share there is no folder called Trash18:11
daftykinsUgb3: what graphics hardware in there?18:12
ikoniaEleanorEllis: create it ?18:12
olikanoli#ZTV18:13
Ugb3daftykins: ah it may be that, an old ati (3550 i think)18:14
daftykinsUgb3: give this a go...18:14
daftykins!nomodeset | Ugb318:14
ubottuUgb3: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:14
Ugb3Thanks guys18:14
Ugb3gonna try18:14
daftykinsUgb3: i must leave now, but feel free to address the channel again if it doesn't help18:14
EleanorEllisikonia: I tried mkdir Trash and it says File exists18:15
Ugb3ok thanks daftykins18:15
ikoniaEleanorEllis: ok, so you can see the problem then....18:15
EleanorEllisexcept it doesn't show when I ls18:15
erictr1ckany ideas why the launcher for eclipse doesnt work after installing eclipse from the software center?18:15
ikoniaEleanorEllis: so it's possible corruption18:16
OerHeksls -l18:16
EleanorEllisikonia: Oh no. I realised I need ls -a as it's a hidden folder. It does show18:16
ikoniaEleanorEllis: there you go then....18:17
OerHekstry 'll' to see max info18:18
* OerHeks loves lazy shortcuts18:19
EleanorEllisikonia: According to Trash's properties, I am the owner and I have permission to create and delete files. However, I still can't move files to the Rubbish bin by deleting them in Nautilus18:19
ced_y18:19
ced_hello18:20
EleanorEllisikonia: A few weeks ago I did change my username, so I had to rename my home directory and take ownership of all my files. Maybe that has something to do with it.18:20
ikoniaEleanorEllis: create a file in there, and look at what's in there18:20
erictr1ckeven if i run eclipse by starting it though the terminal, and then "lock to launcher" the launcher still fails to work after eclipse is closed.18:20
EleanorEllisikonia: PI can create an empty file in ~/.local/share/Trash18:23
EleanorEllisikonia: And I can make changes to it18:23
ikoniaEleanorEllis: ok, so that's a pretty reasonable start18:23
EleanorEllisikonia: Should I maybe try deleting and recreating Trash?18:23
Mithranhow to connect my iphone to pc18:24
ikoniaEleanorEllis: don't see a huge difference in doing that, but possible18:24
ikoniaMithran: iphone/linux are not a stable pairing18:24
ikoniaMithran: support/compatability is a moving target18:24
MeisMinihey i got a question about ubuntu 14.0418:25
killerHey , why create launcher or startup applications can't find the relative files that my application might need18:25
w0lfstaHi.. Im trying to do a minimal install with E18 for desktop..  I installed no packages from mini.iso then after i installed xorg.. now whats the best way to get e18 running on ubuntu?  i found these instructions but they don't seem to work.....  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vase/ppa   sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install enlightenment18:25
EleanorEllisikonia: I don't understand why but it seems to have worked18:25
Mithranikonia: ?18:25
ikoniaMithran: what part of what I said is nt clear18:26
ikoniaEleanorEllis: cool18:26
Mithran ikonia: iphone/linux are not a stable pairing18:26
ikoniaMithran: they do not work together18:26
Mithranikonia: then how do i upgrade my iphone?18:27
ikoniaMithran: use a supported OS, windows or mac os x18:27
EleanorEllisMithran: You might have to boot into windows. You might be able to do it from a virtual machine if your machine doesnt dual boot18:27
MithranPlease help me there is no windows or mac installed i am always running in ubuntu18:27
MeisMinidoes it happen alot that ubuntu 14.04 doesnt get a coursor18:27
ikoniaMithran: then you are out of luck - it is not a stable device to use18:28
Mithranohhhhhhh god.........18:28
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hexhaxtronWhat is the deferwq process for?18:31
Raydiationubuntu uses www-data as apache2 user and group right?18:31
ikoniayes18:32
ikoniaRaydiation: you can check this in the site config18:32
Raydiationty18:33
yohyCan i get some help with some c code?18:51
ikoniayohy: try ##c channel18:52
yohyokay18:52
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fradebhallo everybody18:53
fradebi need support please18:54
thescorpHm, for some reason my sound source keeps changing away from the xonar one when I reboot. *goes googling*18:54
PraxiSo I have been struggling to auto mount an external non usb drive.  Been working on this for days.  Maybe I just need to start over.  When a drive with UUID 5359-818E is HOT inserted into the computer, I want to mount it at /media/offsite  What should I be looking at?18:55
ikoniaPraxi: extenal non-usb ?18:56
ikoniaPraxi: how have you got an external non-usb disk ?18:57
Praxisorry hot plugging a dock18:57
Praxiso not really external :)18:57
ikoniaPraxi: what is the interface connecting the drive to the computer18:57
Praxisata18:57
ikoniaPraxi: sata is not hotplug on most home motherboards18:58
fradebmy pc says:18:58
Praxithe drive is detected fine, I can run commands by hand, mount it, etc.18:58
Praxithe sata spec itself is hotplug18:58
ikoniaPraxi: what sata spec ?18:58
TrudkoGuys I have installed touchpad indincator but when I run it nothing happens , where do I find some error message?18:58
fradeberror: file not found, grub rescue18:58
fradeberror: file not found, grub rescue18:58
fradebwhat can i do?18:59
Trudkoor how else could I disable touchpad while typing?18:59
Praxihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#Hotplug ikonia18:59
Trudkoshould I just run syndaemon -i 0.02 -d & ?18:59
ikoniaPraxi: that is not on all boards/chipset18:59
Praxiit doesn't matter for my conversation, my board supports it, as do all boards I own19:00
fradebexcuse me19:00
fradeberror: file not found, grub rescue19:00
ikoniaPraxi: it does matter19:00
ikoniaPraxi: how do you know your board supports sata hot plug ?19:00
Praxibecause the drive works19:00
PraxiI can mount it19:00
KGM70I have an esata to sata outboard HDD , and it was found at boot only after connecting it while the pc was off , Praxi19:00
PraxiI can read it, I can write it19:00
ikoniaPraxi: tht isn't hot plug19:00
ikoniaPraxi: but I can see how it's confusing19:00
fradeberror: file not found, grub rescue19:01
fradebwhat can i do?19:01
ikonia!patience | fradeb19:01
ubottufradeb: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:01
fradebi'm sorry, ikonia19:01
ikoniafradeb: its fine19:01
fradebbut i've looked on all the web19:01
Beldarfradeb, We see you, that is not really enough info, what got you to this situation, what is on the HD?19:02
Praxireally not sure what your getting at ikonia the definition of hotplugging from wikipedia says : while hot plugging describes the addition of components that would expand the system without significant interruption to the operation of the system.  This is what I'm doing, adding a hard drive without rebooting.  I just want some stuff to happen automatically.  Should I phrase my question differently so were not stuck on this19:02
Praxi hot plugging issue?19:02
fradebbeldar, you means the SO?19:02
ikoniaPraxi: hot plugging is pretty important, as it's the event that tells the OS that "there is a hardware change" that's the key19:03
Beldar!bootinfo | fradeb do this post a url of in pastebin19:03
ubottufradeb do this post a url of in pastebin: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).19:03
ikoniaPraxi: that's why I'm trying to get clarification on your actual hot plug support capabilities19:03
fradebbeldar, i can't use the pc19:04
Beldarfradeb, Use a live environment since you have no boot, there is no picture it is a script.19:04
Beldarah pc, my missread19:04
fradebbeldar, there's a big problem19:04
Beldarfradeb, Which is?19:05
fradebbeldar, it's an old pc. USB, cd boots doesn't work19:05
fradebbeldar, i use plop for install bodhy19:05
ikoniafradeb: then how did you install it19:05
fradebbeldar, i use plop for install bodhy19:05
ikoniafor install bodhy ?19:05
Beldar!bodhi19:05
ikoniaI'm really sorry, I don't understand19:06
Praxiudev does see the drive when its inserted, if I am monitoring udev when its inserted, I see all the normal rules kicked off.  What else can I provide to answer your question ikonia ?19:06
fradebikonia, the pc was windows xp. i installed bodhy with plop.19:06
Beldarfradeb, bodhi linux?19:06
ikoniaPraxi: not an unclear answer19:06
ikoniaPraxi: so do you see a dbus/hal event trigger ?19:07
fradebbeldar, yes. bodhi linux. I hate it!19:07
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stringHi19:07
Beldarfradeb, Not supported here is all. I doubt much more than lubuntu will run on that computer if that old, just a guess however.19:08
stringi have some problem while autodesk maya19:08
stringerror while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory19:08
fradebbeldar, in fact i would like to install xubuntu, but now the pc is ko!19:08
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ikoniafradeb: you can't install xubuntu without a DVD rom or USB boot capabilities19:09
Beldarfradeb, seems to be I would get a usb cd reader, will that work?19:09
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Beldarcd/dvd*19:09
fradebi don't know19:09
fradebbut i've installed bodhy!19:09
Praxilet me check, this is all new to me :)19:09
ikoniafradeb: what do you want from this channel ?19:09
Beldarfradeb, If everything is in place you can manually boot grub.19:10
fradebikonia, know the pc is ko. the error is19:10
ikoniafradeb: I'm not asking you what the error is19:10
Beldarfradeb, just info for you to take with you, bodhi is not supported here is all.19:10
ikoniafradeb: what do you wan tthis channel to help you with ?19:11
Praxiikonia, do I check for that in udevadm monitor, or somewhere else?19:11
fradeba string, for use my pc!19:11
fradebthere's a grub rescue console19:11
ikoniaPraxi: should see the event in the syslog19:11
ikoniafradeb: we don't support bodhi19:11
ikoniafradeb: this channel will not help you with that19:11
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fradebikonia, where i have to go?19:12
ikoniafradeb: bodhi support resources19:12
dedonawryvalI know that I can use gsettings to disable remote searches and shopping, but that's on a user-by-user basis, and I have a lot of users.  Is there a way to disable these at the system level?19:12
ikoniadedonawryval: remove the packages ?19:13
fradebikonia, anyway grub works on each ubuntu19:13
ikoniafradeb: you're not using ubuntu19:13
stringerror while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory19:13
ikoniafradeb: hence why thi channel doesn't support you19:13
ikoniastring: you're missing a library19:13
ring3hi19:13
dedonawryvalSorry, I forgot to mention that this is 14.04.  In 12.04 I could just remove a package, but it's not so simple in 14.04 apparently.19:13
ring3i have /var/crash/*.crash   but i need vmcore files :/19:13
ikoniadedonawryval: should be that simple, what's stopping you19:13
ring3how to generate vmcore file?19:14
fradebikonia, ubuntu has nothing to do with my question!19:14
stringI'm trying to fix this error but not work19:14
fradebikonia, the problem is grub rescue19:14
ikoniafradeb - nothing to do with this channel then19:14
ikoniafradeb: we will not support it in this channel19:14
dedonawryvalFor starters, there is no "unity-lens-shopping" package in 14.04.19:14
ikoniadedonawryval: is there any lens packages ?19:15
ikoniapackage names do change19:15
stringfrom where i can get this library libtiff.so.319:15
fradebikonia, what doesn't this channel support? i don't understand19:15
ikoniafradeb: this channel supports ubuntu only - you are not using ubuntu, we do not support you19:15
ikoniastring: libtiff, search for the tiff package in the package manager, it's a graphics library19:15
dedonawryvalThere are: unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-friends unity-lens-music unity-lens-photos unity-lens-video19:15
Beldarfradeb, #bodhilinux or ##grub would be your resources.19:15
fradebikonia, thank you very much.19:15
stringlibtiff , i already setup this library but also not work19:17
dedonawryvalNone of those sound like they're specific to online search and shopping19:17
samppadyhow i can change overscan settings any gui software for it?19:18
ikoniastring: file not found = file not there, or not compatible, eg: 64bit when it wants 32bit19:18
ikoniadedonawryval: little bit of research seeing what they do...19:18
on3rjhello19:19
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on3rjj'ai un soucis de paquets : E:Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/fr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-i386_Packages (1), E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.19:20
on3rjquelqu'un sait ce que je peux/dois faire ?19:20
dedonawryvalOoh!  I see that there are a whole bunch of unity-scope-* packages...19:20
on3rjyes indeed19:20
on3rjany workaround / solution ?19:21
trismdedonawryval: I'm pretty sure the ones you want to disable are in the default packages, so can't really uninstall them, but: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['music-soundcloud.scope', 'more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope']"19:21
stringiKonia , ia have ubuntu 14.4 64bit and maya 2015 , im try to setup this library from terminal please tel me how i can get19:21
trismdedonawryval: seemed to get most of them when I tried during testing...but I usually just disable the online results so not extensively tested19:21
ikoniastring: read what I told you19:22
dedonawryvalThanks, but that's on a user-by-user basis, and I have a lot of users.  I was hoping for a way to disable it at the system level.19:23
trismdedonawryval: you can set gsettings at the system level with override files19:23
ikoniatrism: how does that work ?19:23
dedonawryvalHow do I do that?19:23
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dw1string: the package libtiff5 will install libtiff.so.5 not .3 so you might try symlinking /usr/lib/i386/libtiff.so.5 or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5 to libtiff.so.3 in the same folder, and if that doesnt work compiling/installing libtiff.so.3 without the package manager19:24
trismdedonawryval: look at the /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override (create your own and then run glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/)19:25
dedonawryvaltrism: That is awesome!  I'm going to give it a try right now!19:26
trismikonia: disabling the scopes or overrides?19:26
ikoniatrism: just read what you posted, excellent suggestion19:26
dw1string: e.g. sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.319:28
stringdw1 , thanks this work now but some library also not work19:30
dw1string: what do you mean19:30
stringerror while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1019:31
dw1string: sudo apt-get install libssl1.0.019:32
dw1string: err wait19:32
dw1string: yes that19:32
stringlibssl.so.10: cannot open shared object file19:33
stringnot work19:33
ikoniathink about it19:33
ikoniait's the same problem, just a different library19:33
ikoniathis time SSL19:33
dw1string: then sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1019:34
dw1differnet folders this time :/19:34
dw1!cookie | dw119:35
ubottudw1, please see my private message19:35
CapprenticeHow do I create app groups in Gnome Shell 3.12 ?19:39
gotpunkhas there been any fix to ubuntu on mac, so that i may have two fingers on my touchpad and still move my pointer?19:39
gotpunkrunning 14.0419:39
oneof3hi. during bootup my system said something like "cant write pipe broken" then booted okay and the OS works. what was that all about?19:42
aarobcI wonder if ubuntu 14.04 has some brokenness...19:42
BeldarCapprentice, 3.12 is a ppa version, not technically supported. However there is #gnome19:43
Beldarsupported here*19:43
aarobcI was testing some stuff for a server, this fails only in ubuntu. other debian based distros handle it just fine: "ffmpeg-i song.m4a -ab 128k -v 0 -f mp3 - | vlc -"19:43
qin_oneof3: you could grep syslog for "pipe broken" to see if it is usual thing.19:44
oneof3trying that ty qin_19:45
qin_gotpunk: launchpad has all boult bugs section19:45
qin_*about19:46
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Jenais there any way to connect my iphone with ubuntu 14.0419:50
qin_aarobc: missing space?19:52
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fxrubywelcome :D19:52
aarobcqin_: does that command work for you with an m4a file?19:53
Es0tericanybody here?19:54
sionroninhello everyone!19:54
Es0tericand does anybody know about httpd vhosts?19:54
Es0terici get an error saying that my site doesnt exist when i do a2enmod19:55
dw1but a2enmod is for modules, not sites. :)19:55
sionroninyou want a2ensite19:55
dw1Es0teric: if the site is in example.com.conf then a2ensite example.com19:56
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Es0tericdw1 it is not... it is just example.com19:57
Es0tericshould i make it example.com.conf?19:57
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dw1probably19:57
PiciEs0teric: it needs to be a .conf file in newer versions of apache.19:57
Es0tericdw1 right now i have a serious issue19:59
Es0terici configured the vhosts correctly and it is not allowing my subdomain to go to the directory i told it to19:59
dw1Es0teric: could be .conf or even dns related20:00
dw1Es0teric: might be better suited for #httpd since its not ubuntu-specific20:01
PiciEs0teric: are you sure that www-data has enough privleges to access that directory?20:01
Es0tericPici should i just make it chown me:www-data20:02
Es0tericthe entire directory?20:02
ikoniachanging permissions blindly is a bad idea20:02
ikoniayou need to understand permissions before making changes20:03
PiciEs0teric: You should assign permissions correctly.  Just setting the group to www-data might not be enough.20:03
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MantissaHas anyone had two cards working in crossfire under Linux? How did ye fare?20:06
Es0tericPici20:06
Es0tericit is not20:06
Es0tericdisplaying the page20:06
ikoniaEs0teric: you've already said that20:06
qin_aarobc: I did not test that command, just "ffmpeg-i" looks fooish20:06
ikoniaEs0teric: however the error in not displaying the page is important20:06
ikoniaEs0teric: as is the apache access and err logs20:06
ikoniaas are the permissions on the directory containing your document root20:07
Es0tericthis shit20:08
Ugb3Wow should i expect a fluid unity with a old AMD 3500+ and an AMD 4550 ?20:08
Es0tericis pissing me off... i know i set the vhosts correctly20:08
ikoniaEs0teric: there is no need for bad language20:08
Es0tericand the damn page is not displaying from the subdomain20:08
ikoniaEs0teric: please don't use it, it is not required and it's not welcome20:08
ikoniaEs0teric: repeating it doesn't work doesn't help anyone20:08
Es0tericikonia you have to understand this is due in about... 15 mins20:08
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Es0tericand this is the ONLY problem i am having20:09
ikoniaEs0teric: then perhaps you should have an idea what you are doing by now20:09
Es0tericikonia i do have an idea of what i am doing20:09
Es0terichave a vhost directive20:09
Es0tericlinked to a subdomain20:09
SamPoopfight fight fight20:09
Es0tericthat is not RENDERING20:09
Es0tericTHE PAGE20:09
ikoniaEs0teric: clearly not as you don't know why it's not working, you don't know how to debug it and you're not giving any of the information you are being asked for20:09
ikoniaEs0teric: so what's the actual error20:09
ikoniaEs0teric: what's the actual error20:10
PiciEs0teric: Okay? And we're not psychic.  We can't magically see why it isn't doing that without you providing the info that ikonia asked for.20:10
Es0teric * The apache2 configtest failed. Not doing anything. Output of config test was: (2)No such file or directory: AH02291: Cannot access directory '/var/log/apache/' for error log of vhost defined at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/dwp.mysite.com.conf:1 AH00014: Configuration check failed Action 'configtest' failed.20:10
ikoniaEs0teric: ok, so there are many errors there20:11
ikoniaEs0teric: the log file is missing20:11
Es0tericikonia i went to /var/log/apache220:11
ikoniaEs0teric: it's not looking in /var/log/apace220:11
ikoniaits looking in /var/log/apache20:11
ikoniaCannot access directory '/var/log/apache/'20:11
Es0tericikonia so what permissions should i set that directory to?20:11
Es0teric775?20:12
ikoniaEs0teric: )No such file or directory20:12
ikoniaEs0teric: "no such file" not "no permissions"20:12
Es0tericthe directory exists20:12
Es0terici just checked it20:12
LinuxGuruz77720:12
Es0tericLinuxGuruz i am not stupid20:12
ikoniaLinuxGuruz: please do'nt suggest that sort of thing20:12
ikoniaEs0teric: ok, so what's the permissions on that directory20:12
Es0tericikonia -> drwxr-x---20:13
ikoniaEs0teric: owner/grou p?20:13
ikoniaowner / group20:13
Es0tericikonia adm/root20:13
CarlFKEs0teric: please post this:juser@piggy:~$ ls -ld /var/log/apache*20:13
CarlFKdrwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 May 12 06:25 /var/log/apache220:13
ikoniaEs0teric: ok, so that's neer going to work then20:13
SamPoopim thinking of getting a chromebook. how convinient is a linux setup on the 200 dollar thing?20:13
ikoniaCarlFK: thank you, excellent way to be sure20:14
Es0tericCarlFK, ikonia  drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 May 11 07:35 /var/log/apache220:15
ikoniaEs0teric: that is apcache220:15
ikoniaEs0teric: not apache20:15
jmaderohi all - if anyone is around who has considered contributing to a FLOSS project - we're looking for new (nonprogramming) volunteers to help us out over at libreoffice (#libreoffice-qa)20:15
ikoniaI asked for the permissions on /var/log apache20:15
ikoniaEs0teric: I've said the directory it's looking at is /var/log/apache20:15
jmaderoapologies to moderators if I broke some rule ;)20:15
ikoniajmadero: please don't spam20:15
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jmaderoikonia: I know - just hard to reach out to the community - one message, will not again20:15
ikoniajmadero: thanks20:16
jmaderoI'm sure you know how it is ;)20:16
ikoniajmadero: yeah, doesn't really make it ok20:16
jmadero+1 understood20:16
ikoniajmadero: thanks20:16
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jmaderosure thing20:16
Ugb3Are the rinimum requirement on the website still up to date ?20:16
Es0tericikonia ok so how do i get the error log?20:16
ikoniaEs0teric: I did'nt ask for the error log20:16
ikoniaEs0teric: I asked for the permissions on /var/log/apache20:16
Es0tericikonia i know you didnt but i fixed it and it passed20:16
Es0tericso i am looking to view it20:16
Es0terichow do i view it20:17
ikoniathis is a waste of time20:17
CarlFKEs0teric:  I would fix the conf file to use apache220:17
Es0tericCarlFK i just did20:17
ikoniasorry, I can't help you - as you are just changing things, not giving the info I asked for and not giving accurate information20:17
Ugb3I mean, are the minimum requirement to run ubuntu written on the ubuntu website, still accurate ?20:17
Es0tericikonia there is no "apache" folder20:17
Es0terici changed it to apache2 because that is the name of the folder20:17
Es0tericclearly it was a typo, moving on from that how do i view the error log20:17
ikoniaEs0teric: yes, you said there was an apache folder - you are not giving accurate information/checking your information20:17
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CarlFKEs0teric:  * The apache2 configtest failed. - do that again, post message.20:18
qin_Ugb3: Roughly?20:18
Es0tericCarlFK, ikonia  this is what i typed service apache2 reload20:19
Es0teric * Reloading web server apache2                                                                                                                                       *20:19
Es0tericso it passed20:19
Es0tericagain, moving on from that i need to view the error log, how do i view it20:19
LinuxGuruzwierd question20:19
guntbertEs0teric: less /var/log/apache2/error.log20:20
Ugb3qin_: Really ? So unity should be fluid/usable with an AMD 3500+ and an ATI 4550 (all above the minimum)20:20
qin_Ugb3: Where did you find minimum?20:20
Ugb3https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements20:20
john1_hi20:21
CarlFKqin_: likely it will depend on what you are expecting, which will depend on what other systems you use.20:21
Jordan_UUgb3: If those cards have decent drivers available, yes.20:21
Es0tericthis is what the error log says [Fri May 16 19:59:09.334897 2014] [core:notice] [pid 21625] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'20:21
qin_Ugb3: That is community page. And includes Xubntu20:21
Ugb3My pc was wonderfully fluid with gnome 3, so i guess it should be too.20:22
Ugb3qin_: Ah my bad, do you know where i could find the minimum requirement for ubuntu unity ?20:22
guntbertEs0teric: why are you telling us this?20:22
ikoniaUgb3: is it not listed on the website ?20:22
Es0tericguntbert because...20:22
Es0tericnvm20:22
Ugb3ikonia: maybe i'm not doing it right but i can't seem to find it.20:23
ikoniaUgb3: always used to be there20:23
Ugb3ikonia: on the main ubuntu website ?20:24
ikoniawhich pretty much sums it up20:24
ikoniaUgb3: just looking myself, everything I see is shockingly out of date,20:24
Jordan_UUgb3: The smoothness of Unity will usually depend much more on the quality of the drivers than the capabilities of the hardware.20:24
Ugb3Jordan_U: Mhh my card worked pretty smooth on Fedora and Gnome320:25
Ugb3Jordan_U: With hardware acceleration, so i guess it should also works well in ubuntu.20:25
Jordan_UUgb3: Most likely, yes.20:26
Ugb3Jordan_U: Ok, i'm currently finishing the instalation, the live cd was slow as a slideshow but i hope i will figure out.20:26
qin_Ugb3: Well, Ubuntu-gnome is pretty neat, if it helps.20:28
Ugb3qin_: thanks for the info.20:29
Jordan_UUgb3: Were you using proprietary drivers in Fedora?20:30
Ugb3Jordan_U: Nope the nouveau driver.20:30
Ugb3Okay so i booted into ubuntu, it only use a part of the screen, i can't change the resolution and it is as slow as vista on a pentium II, i guess something is wrong.20:30
zykotick9Ugb3: nouveau is a nvidia only driver?  didn't you say you have ATI?20:30
Ugb3zykotick9: Really ? er so i guess i was using the stock one, anyway proprietary drivers has been droped for my card afaik20:32
zykotick9Ugb3: you can "/msg ubottu nouveau" for confirmation on nvidia-only.  IMO even the open ATI/AMD drivers are proprietary, as they require non-free firmware for 3D... but that's a differernt matter.  anyways, best of luck.20:33
Ugb3zykotick9: Ok, I'm not really that savvy, but I can't confirm my card worked well with acceleration on fedora.20:35
Jay_Hello, after installing ubuntu and going to boot it i get a Operating system not find20:37
Jay_found20:37
aumhi - for some strange reason, my .bashrc no longer runs when I start up a terminal, any ideas?20:38
aumchange that - I meant my ~/.profile no longer runs20:38
Jordan_UJay_: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.20:39
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Jay_20:39
ubottuJay_: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).20:39
Guest41880 How can I make a dual-boot on my pc ?(I have a pre-installed windows 8.1 and I want to make it for Ubuntu 14.04.)20:39
Jordan_UGuest41880: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop20:41
bchyndsanyone use irssi or weechat and have a problem with the client randomly shaking the text in the term window?20:47
bluezoneWhy isn't ffmpeg in apt-get?20:48
bchyndsbluezone: there's a ppa for it20:49
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ikoniabchynds: because it's dead20:49
ikoniaoops20:49
ikoniabluezone: because it's dead20:49
danlovesproofsI lost SSH connectivity to a 12.04 instance. I can still ping it, and when I ssh -v I do get the following:20:49
danlovesproofsdebug1: Connecting to node-name [ip.ad.dr.ess] port 22.20:49
danlovesproofsdebug1: Connection established.20:49
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zykotick9ikonia: i don't think that's true... avconv is a fork of ffmpeg, but i believe ffmpeg is still alive and well.20:50
danlovesproofsWhat might cause this, and how can I go about fixing it?20:50
ikoniazykotick9: you even get a warning message why you try to run it20:50
ikoniazykotick9: but you are of course factually correct20:50
bluezoneikonia, at this point whatever, i'd like to try it to see if it works because nothing else is working for me, unless you have a better solution i can get from the repos20:50
zykotick9ikonia: yes, i've seen the warning... but experience tells me, ffmpeg is still alive.20:50
ikoniazykotick9: %100 factually correct,20:51
ikoniabluezone: nothing else works ?? I've not even seen you ask about something that's broken20:51
oosumisuany one want to help me get frostwire installed in lubuntu?20:52
zykotick9bluezone: install libav-tools20:52
oosumisuhi20:52
oosumisudoes anyone want to help me install frostwire in lubuntu?20:53
ikonia!patience oosumisu20:53
ikonia!patience| oosumisu20:53
ubottuoosumisu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:53
Ugb3Ok guys, so ubuntu seems to boot with nomodesetting, why is that ?20:54
oosumisui didnt see it so i typed it again sorry20:54
Katnisshi20:54
bluezonewell i'm currently doing my typical strategy of installing everything on the face of the earth and hoping 1 thing works ^_^20:55
zykotick9Ugb3: 'cause you have ati or nvidia hardware, most likely...20:55
Jordan_UJay_: Are you still there?20:57
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Ugb3zykotick9: Maybe I'm oldschool, but years ago nomodeset meant : No hardware acceleration20:58
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zykotick9Ugb3: if you install proprietary driver, you'll have 3d in Xorg (if that's what you are worried about)20:58
Ugb3zykotick9: There is no proprietray drivers anymore for my card :/20:59
zykotick9Ugb3: you're console resolution will be crappy however (but that is fixable, though probably NOT worth the effort)20:59
jostPlayer: thanks for your help earlier today (stalled updates)20:59
Jordan_UUgb3: nomodeset means "no kernel mode setting". KMS is required by pretty much all of the open source drivers, and incompatible with pretty much all of the proprietary drivers.20:59
zykotick9Ugb3: install the "open" ATI driver and firmware, should still work.20:59
Playerjost, No problem!  I was wondering what happened there, haha.20:59
bluezonezykotick9, i have that installed btw, what else do i need to do?20:59
FischliDEVHi guys21:00
zykotick9bluezone: do you know have an ffmpeg command then?21:00
jostPlayer: turned out it was a non-RFC conforming webserver serving the PPA21:00
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jostdidn't play well with HTTP 1.121:00
zykotick9bluezone: if not, try avconv it's basically the same syntax as ffmpeg21:00
Ugb3Jordan_U: Ok thanks for the info, but.. that's a vanilla install so it shouldn't be set !?21:01
Ugb3zykotick9: And mhh how should i do that ?21:02
Playerjost, What'd you do to resolve it?21:02
maseckHi, the command "pactl load-module module-loopback" doesn't give me low enough latency for what I'm doing. Any suggestions?21:02
bluezonezykotick9, Unknown input format: 'x11grab' , i'm currently using this script: http://bpaste.net/show/t5dznao0eN6n4tXxes6J/21:02
zykotick9Ugb3: _i_ have no idea, i don't touch ATI/AMD graphics with a 30 foot pole.  best of luck.21:02
Ugb3zykotick9: Ok, thank you anyway.21:03
bluezonezykotick9, i also get some preset problems i guess ill have to try aaconv21:04
zykotick9bluezone: sorry, don't know - you're trying to screen capture i take it.  i have no suggestions, sorry.21:04
bluezoneok21:04
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jostPlayer: there is an apt-option to do handle that: Acquire::http:Pipeline-Depth. It has to be set to "0".21:04
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PlayerUgb3, Does hardware acceleration work when you log in?  What driver are you using?  Mesa, open source, or proprietary?21:04
jostAnd to be found21:04
Playerjost, Interesting, the more you know.  Glad I could help and thanks for the info!21:04
Ugb3Player: Nope, and i don't know the stock one.21:04
Ugb3Player: I juste installed it, vanilla 14.0421:05
PlayerUgb3, What version of Ubuntu?21:05
v1ckyz --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- ---21:05
v1ckyzFUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is21:05
v1ckyz(SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo21:05
v1ckyzis => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com21:05
v1ckyzBecarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull --21:05
v1ckyz-- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ----21:05
v1ckyz--- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- ---21:05
unopastev1ckyz you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted21:05
PlayerUgb3, Ah, ok.  It would be the xorg radeon driver IIRC.  Let me look it up real quick.21:05
Ugb3Ok thanks you.21:06
PlayerUgb3, Correction, it's RadeonDriver and it comes on the Ubuntu CD.  It gets installed initially if it sees that you have a Radeon card, just to make sure you didn't install any additional drivers with jockey?21:07
PlayerUgb3, and/or are you stuck at commandline/recovery mode?21:07
Ugb3Player: Nope, just ubuntu is slow as a slideshow and using only 9/10 of the screen, I don't know whats is jokey but i'm pretty sure I haven't installed anything.21:08
PlayerUgb3, Jockey is a GUI that is supposed to pop up if it detects hardware that has official proprietary drivers.  It sounds like it's not utilizing the built-in Radeon driver for some reason (what graphics card do you have), I have a few things you could try to make sure it's not something else and if it's not I'll help you install fglrx.21:10
Ugb3Player: Thank you, nothing poped up and i have a "[AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550]"21:11
Ugb3Player: It's written 4550 on the card.21:11
PlayerUgb3, That would be why, the 4xxx series is "legacy."21:11
PlayerUgb3, yeah on Windows a lot of times my graphics card gets detected wrong21:12
Ugb3Player: So ubuntu is incompatible with my computer ?21:12
PlayerUgb3, try running glxgears, with the Radeon 4550 you should get at *least* 1000FPS21:12
PlayerUgb3, It's not a matter of compatibility, it's just what'll work out of the box.  In this instance your graphics hardware isn't going to work out of the box but I'll help you get the proprietary legacy drivers working.21:12
Ugb3wait a sec, starting the terminal take ages21:13
PlayerUgb3, the only thing that I'm aware of that should be noted is that Source games (i.e. Team Fortress 2 or Half-Life 2) will not run on that card.21:13
Ugb3Player: Not a problem.21:13
PlayerUgb3, CTRL+ALT+T21:13
Ugb3i'm installing mesa-utils21:14
PlayerUgb3, yeah, if you do want to play those games you could resort to open-source drivers which from my understanding outperform the official fglrx drivers, but they're unofficial so they're not supported by AMD.21:14
PlayerUgb3, alright, sorry I forgot glxgears came in mesa-utils.21:14
Ugb3Player: I just want a smooth UI and being able to play videos.21:14
PlayerUgb3, then fglrx is all you'll need.21:15
Ugb3Player: Between 90 and 97 fps with glxgears.21:15
PlayerUgb3, That's very VERY slow.  What processor?21:15
PlayerYou should be getting at least a few thousand FPS with that card.21:15
Ugb3Player: AMD 3500+21:15
PlayerAh, so it's using 100% software rendering.  I believe that's the issue.21:16
PlayerSo, yes you'll need to install graphics drivers.  1 minute.21:16
PlayerUgb3, is Ubuntu x86 or x86_64?21:16
Ugb36421:16
Ugb3I'm planing to add more ram if everything works well.21:17
Jordan_UPlayer: Images for both are available.21:17
PlayerUgb3, Alright, and just to make sure it's a desktop, not a laptop.  Correct?21:17
DrGrovHello hello21:17
Ugb3Player: Correct, old "hand made" desktop.21:18
DrGrovbekks: Hi there. Remember my server related questions about getting GUI on 14.04?21:18
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DrGrovbekks: I've managed to sort out the RAM issue, got 2 GB of RAM so I can finally run GUI.21:18
PlayerUgb3, fair.  I can link you to the driver download page but from the sounds of it it'll be faster if I give you commands to download thru terminal.21:19
Ugb3Player: Do it, i'm ssh'ing the computer.21:19
omar_ikonia, Hi.21:19
PlayerUgb3, I'll send them over PM in a second, they're sort of long since it needs a "referer" argument.21:20
ikoniaomar_: yes ?21:20
Ugb3Player: You can give my the page if you want.21:20
DrGrovI might ask this as a general question in order to get some advice, unless bekks is available :)21:20
Ugb3Player: do the most easy for you.21:20
omar_ikonia, You told me that I should be able to establish an infrastructure hotspot from Network Manager. But I couldn't really see how. Do you have any idea?21:20
ikoniaomar_: not withouth looking, I dont have ubuntu infront of me21:21
DrGrovSo, I have gotten myself a server where I can install either 13.10 64-bit or 14.04 64-bit but had issues getting a graphical UI because of only having 512 Mb of RAM. Now when that is sorted, how can I easily set up a graphical UI for 14.04 on that server?21:21
omar_ikonia, mmm, I see.21:21
omar_ikonia, Well, thanks anyways.21:22
Jordan_UDrGrov: Why do you want a GUI on a server?21:23
DrGrovJordan_U: Because I want to work on my newly acquired domains which I merge with the server.21:23
LinksEzDoes anyone know how to change volume in the control panel?21:24
LinksEzamixer set master 5- not working for me.21:24
LinksEz:(21:24
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Jordan_UDrGrov: And this work requires a GUI?21:24
Praximan sorry ikonia if you still have ideas how to get my hard drive to auto mount;  Here is my syslog when the hard drive was plugged in.  I MIGHT of captured some of the unplug too;  http://pastebin.com/AKerb1ma21:24
DrGrovJordan_U: And also have any easy access for other things when needed.21:24
Jordan_UDrGrov: LXDE is a good choice for a light DE.21:24
DrGrovJordan_U: Yes, at least for me it requires a GUI for easy access.21:24
DrGrovJordan_U: Ok, I just want to somehow set it up for the server. Probably x2go-server would do the trick as it did on Debian 7 Desktop 64-bit which I have running now on the server.21:25
PlayerUgb3, sorry about the wait, I went afk for a minute.  I PM'd the commands to you.  PM me back if one of them doesn't work.21:25
DrGrovBut I really want to have something more "new" so to speak and more close to what I am using right here as well.21:25
Ugb3Player:  Thanks21:27
Praxior if anyone else has ideas21:28
Jordan_UPlayer: Ugb3: Please keep discussion in-channel so that we can help ensure that good advice is being given.21:29
Ugb3Jordan_U: will do.21:29
PlayerJordan_U, Sorry, the commands were long.  I didn't want to flood the chat room.21:29
PlayerI'll never understand why AMD puts such long names on everything..21:30
Jordan_UPlayer: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com21:30
PlayerJordan_U, sorry, not thinking with Ubuntu yet.21:30
Ugb3Didn't work Player21:31
Ugb3http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475113/21:31
Player$ cat /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log21:32
Jordan_UPlayer: Ugb3: Why aren't you installing fglrx from the repositories?21:32
Playerput the contents of that file on pastebin.ubuntu21:32
PlayerJordan_U, The legacy drivers from the repositories are outdated and have issues.21:32
Ugb3http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475124/21:32
Jordan_UPlayer: Did you at least try them first?21:33
PlayerJordan_U, I have a PC with a 4350 in it.  I checked about a week ago and the same issues arised.21:34
Jordan_UPlayer: Unless you have the same card they do, or a source suggesting that these problems are universal, I still suggest trying the drivers from the repositories first.21:35
PlayerJordan_U, Ugb3, well I found out why.  AMD doesn't support the legacy cards on Linux any more and it's unable to find the headers due to what I assume is a difference between the Ubuntu release these were intended for and 14.04.21:35
PlayerThe machine I mentioned runs 12.04 currently so that would be why, it's recommended to use open-source drivers.21:36
PlayerJordan_U, It's the same series card. (Windows identifies his as the same one as mine)21:36
clrtxhi folks when loggin in with ssh i dont see directory im in only thr $ and also when replicating last used command with cursor up/down butt it doesnt seem to work21:37
Ugb3Player Jordan_U On the amd website it's stated : "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"21:37
PlayerUgb3, I would suggest cautiously trying $ http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.zip --force but that *could* cause problems, give it a shot and if you can't boot to GUI run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*21:38
Playerwait, mistype, $ sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run --force21:39
clrtxhow to enable this ?21:39
Yeluclrtx, type "pwd" and you'll get your current directory you are in21:39
Ugb3Player: I got it.21:39
clrtxyes i know Yelu21:39
clrtxi want it to do by default21:39
Yeluclrtx, ok21:39
clrtxlike other distros21:40
clrtxis tthat optional ?21:40
Yeluthen you have to change at least your PS1 prompt (google?)21:40
jostI need some support configuring a server firewall with ufw. I want to allow outgoing HTTP and DNS requests, and incoming SSH sessions. Everything else should be denied. I've got that, but whenever I enable ufw, it asks me if I want to continue, since active SSH connections could be broken. If I say yes, my SSH connection terminates, but I cannot establish a new connection. After I reboot the server (deactivating ufw in the process), everthing wo21:40
jostrks fine again.21:40
clrtxok21:40
jostHere is my config: http://pastebin.com/sEZatTxL21:40
Jordan_UPlayer: Ugb3: The fact that the error message explicitly says "Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration", coupled with the fact that (apparently, I haven't checked myself) Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't offer to install drivers for this card, make me think that nothing good can come from running that command.21:41
Ugb3Jordan_U: Too late, i'm rebooting, will see.21:41
Jordan_Uclrtx: How was this user created? It sounds like someone incorrectly set this users' shell to be /bin/sh.21:42
Ugb3Jordan_U Player Black screen after reboot, i guess i doesn't work.21:42
PlayerIf it causes problems it's just a matter of purging the fglrx package, his machine is using 100% software rendering so it should default to that.21:42
clrtxhmm21:42
PlayerUgb3, are you at a recovery prompt or no?21:42
Ugb3Oh no more black screen, i'm at login screen21:43
LINUX8How do I change the system language in Xfce21:43
PlayerUgb3, Good, I got worried.  Now the next question is will Unity function properly?21:43
Yeluclrtx, type set | grep -i "shell="21:43
Ugb3Player: Nope, i got kick back to login screen.21:43
Jordan_UYelu: clrtx: That's a really long complicated way to say "echo $SHELL".21:44
xanguaLINUX8: go to your language settings and select the one you want21:44
* Yelu is laughing (and nodding)21:44
PlayerUgb3, My guess would be either X or kernel isn't compatible (I should've asked you to check).21:44
clrtxok21:45
Ugb3Player: "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4" I guess both are more recent ?21:45
zykotick9Yelu: "echo $SHELL" is a bit easier ;)  clrtx21:45
PlayerUgb3, Yeah, possibly.21:45
clrtxok21:45
PlayerUgb3, Do CTRL+ALT+F2, you should be at a tty prompt.  Log in with your user credentials and run that script again (without the --force option).  It should double as an uninstaller as well.21:46
clrtxindeed its /bin/sh21:46
clrtxdarn21:46
PlayerUgb3, If it doesn't then $ sudo apt-get purge fglrx-legacy21:46
Jordan_Uclrtx: How was this user created?21:46
clrtxits some one elses machine21:46
clrtxi just done installing sometin for that person21:46
PeterGriffinHello. I want to ezperment with intrusion detection systems. Is it ok if I install snort and bro on the same system?21:46
clrtxwich went fine21:46
clrtxonly the annoying prompt21:47
Ugb3Player: No unistaller, did the "sudo apt-get purge fglrx-legacy"21:47
Ugb3err21:47
PlayerUgb3, Okay.21:47
Ugb3impossible to fin "fglrx-legacy"21:47
Jordan_Uclrtx: So before you did whatever steps to install whatever, bash was the default shell for this user?21:47
clrtxhm ok21:48
PlayerWell that's interesting, try running the script again with the --uninstall argument.21:48
Player@Ugb321:48
Yeluzykotick9, not for me (my dollar key is damaged <= lousy excuse)21:48
clrtxhm how to undo and make it standard prompt21:49
DrGrovHow can I check my own SSH settings as a client/server? Trying to check whether it would be possible to open up the server the other way as well, not only as a one-way direction. Having 13.10 64-bit myself.21:49
Jordan_Uclrtx: Did you see my question?21:50
clrtxlet me get owner of machine here Jordan_U sir21:51
clrtxone moment21:51
Ugb3Player: I did, i rebooted and got a desktop.21:51
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PlayerUgb3, Awesome, I assume it's still indexplicably slow, yeah?21:51
Ugb3Player: Yeah i can count the fps with my fingers.21:51
Jordan_Uclrtx: "chsh" will allow you to change the login shell, but no reasonable installation process should have changed the user's default shell so you should really explain everything you did to make sure there aren't any other adverse side effects that you just haven't noticed yet.21:52
PlayerUgb3, That's pretty bad, hang on I'll find the open-source driver everyone uses.21:53
Ugb3Player: And now the system tells me that "System program problem detected"21:54
Neo_holy crap21:54
clrtxthere you are21:54
clrtxfinally21:54
clrtxhere is the owner of machine Jordan_U21:54
clrtxNeo_21:54
PlayerUgb3, Not sure what could cause that, what does "more details" say?21:54
clrtxNeo_21:55
clrtx23:52:44 <Jordan_U> : clrtx: "chsh" will allow you to change the login shell, but no reasonable installation process should have changed the user's default shell so you should really explain everything you did to make sure there aren't any other adverse side effects that you just haven't noticed yet.21:55
Neo_yes bro21:55
aarobcOkay, I've spun up 5 vms to confirm this and on 2 different bare metal installs. There is a bug in 14.04 that's causing ffmpeg to not send to standard output. 12.04 works just fine as do other debian based distros.21:55
clrtx23:47:53 <Jordan_U> : clrtx: so before you did whatever steps to install whatever, bash was the default shell for this user?21:55
clrtxhow did you do this Neo_21:55
Neo_does he have a vps?21:55
clrtxhe ?21:56
clrtxwho is he ?21:56
Neo_Jordan_U21:56
clrtxhe is trying to help us Neo_21:56
Neo_do you use a vps21:56
Drognaaarobc: Thank you for testing, please file bug report.21:56
clrtxcause you set /bin/sh21:56
Neo_ohh21:56
Jordan_UNeo_: I don't see how that is relevant.21:56
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clrtxwich isnt the standard prompt21:56
Ugb3Player: "Your system is providing 3D via software rendering rather than hardware rendering. This is a compatibility mode which should display 3D graphics properly but the performance may be very poor. If the problem you're reporting is related to graphics performance, your real question may be why X didn't use hardware acceleration for your system."21:56
clrtxand annoying to work with21:56
PlayerUgb3, That's basically the issue we've been trying to fix.21:57
clrtxcould you anwer Neo_21:57
Jordan_UNeo_: Before whatever clrtx recently did to install some (as yet unspecified) software, when you ssh'd did you get a bash shell or a dash shell?21:57
Ugb3Player: Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in cursorScreenDevPriv()21:58
Neo_dunno cannot remember21:58
Neo_i can look in bash history21:58
clrtxdid ya look yet Neo_21:59
Neo_apt-get install gnu21:59
Neo_sudo apt-get install build-essential21:59
Neo_sudo apt-get install libtre-dev21:59
Neo_them?21:59
clrtxno21:59
clrtxthe user21:59
PlayerUgb3, Looking around it seems the more commonly used open-sourced drivers are RadeonDriver (the xorg driver), and Galium3D22:00
Neo_what user22:00
clrtxwhere did you install inspi22:00
clrtxwhere did you install inspi ?22:00
Neo_ohh22:00
Neo_off the net22:00
Neo_hang on22:00
Neo_i will get it22:00
Jordan_UNeo_: The last time you logged in via ssh, did you get a prompt that looked like "username@hostname:~$ " or just one that had "$ " and nothing else?22:00
clrtxno22:00
clrtxjeez22:00
Ugb3Player: Ok, and how could I install one of them ?22:00
clrtxnvm22:00
clrtxmaybe you can explain to me how to do so for my general knowledge im curious to know how to change this Jordan_U22:01
JujuI have a TV capture called "Easy TV USB Hybrid Pro"... COuld someone help me to install it?22:01
JujuPlease22:01
PlayerUgb3, If you want to try Galium3D, run these commands: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475238/22:01
Neo_username@hostname:~$22:01
Neo_it was22:01
clrtxits not now Neo_22:02
clrtxnow its $22:02
clrtxno path no user no nothing22:02
Player$ echo $PATH ?22:02
Player$ echo $HOME ?22:02
Neo_is now $22:02
Jordan_Uclrtx: OK, so it sounds like something you did changed the login shell. What were you installing and what commands did you run to do so?22:02
Viking667hey, I've just come up with a big problem.22:03
clrtxstandard commands to install anope Jordan_U22:03
Viking667My computer's no longer accepting my login password.22:03
clrtxdone many times22:03
clrtxall went fine22:03
clrtxit already was set that way Jordan_U22:03
clrtxthe prompt22:03
zykotick9Viking667: do you mean from the GUI login?  from CTRL+ALT+F1 can you login ok?22:04
Viking667yeah. It's my ... hang on, I'll look it up.22:05
Jordan_Uclrtx: So when you first logged in you recieved a "$ " prompt?22:05
Ugb3Player: I did, same as before, 5 fps and 9/10 of the screen used.22:05
clrtxyes Jordan_U22:05
PlayerUgb3, The package installed and you rebooted?22:05
Viking667ouch. I found out what the problem is.22:05
Ugb3Player: Yep22:06
Jordan_Uclrtx: OK. "chsh --shell /bin/bash" will fix this particular problem, though I don't like that we don't know what caused it in the first place.22:06
Viking667the problem seems to be that the bit that asks for my password isn't using dvorak keyboard for its input.22:06
PlayerUgb3, MY BAD!  I gave you the wrong package, run $ sudo apt-get purge libg3dvl-mesa && sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers22:06
clrtxyes Neo_ doesnt seem to understand Jordan_U22:06
zykotick9Jordan_U: i'd "guess" someone used useradd instead of adduser... but just a guess ;)22:06
clrtxshould that cmd be run in root Jordan_U ?22:06
clrtxhmm ok zykotick922:07
Neo_no i understand but its always been like that $ *shrugs*22:07
Jordan_Uclrtx: No. It should be run as the user whose shell you want to change.22:07
clrtxok22:07
DrGrovJust installed ubuntu-desktop on 14.10 64-bit on the server. Now I wonder, how do I get a remote desktop access to the server? Any particular program I can use to achieve it in the easiest possible way?22:07
DrGrovOr do I have to do some additional configuration on the server itself?22:07
Viking667DrGrov: if you've got a gui desktop available, then often connecting with VNC would work if you'd set the permissions up correctly.22:08
PlayerDrGrov, I use VNC,  but you have to configure it to run the xserver. (I've been dealing with this over the past day and a half)22:08
DrGrovOk22:08
sadboxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaWiki   <- If someone already has an account would like to update that page, it doesn't work prefecttly in 14.0422:08
YeluJordan_U, just a thought: maybe it's just the basic/default setup for this IPS's VPS package (sh shell for ssh connections instead of bash)?22:08
DrGrovI used x2go-server on Debian 7 Desktop 64-bit and x2go-client on my end to get it to GUI.22:09
sadboxYou have to "sudo a2enconf mediawiki" to enable it22:09
DrGrovCan I still set it up in the same way on the server as I did with Debian 7 ?22:09
Jordan_UYelu: That would be a pretty silly setup for a VPS to have.22:09
Viking667gah. Stuff this.22:09
=== guampa_ is now known as guampa
YeluJordan_U, did I say the opposite? ;)22:09
clrtxive run the cmd Jordan_U22:10
clrtxit gave me promt for pass22:10
clrtxi filled in pass22:10
clrtxand nothing changed22:10
PlayerDrGrov, One of my biggest issues was getting the xserver and desktop environment running.  It was apparently looking for a $DISPLAY environment variable.  I had to define this in ~/.profile, the other issue was I couldn't get the DE to start up automatically.22:10
DrGrovOr does the ubuntu-desktop metapackage provide me with GUI access already itself and I just need to connect to the server via any default available 13.10 64-bit software?22:10
Jordan_Uclrtx: Log out and log back in again.22:11
DrGrovPlayer: Okay, thanks for letting me know. That might cause a headache or two in this case. Perhaps I will have to switch back to Debian 7 Desktop then on the server.22:11
clrtxok22:11
PlayerDrGrov, If you're using Xtightvnc then you set the DE to start in ~/.vnc/xstartup22:11
Ugb3Player: Ok im going that.22:12
Viking667If the Ubuntu got vino installed, then that's your VNC server.22:12
clrtxthat did it Jordan_U22:12
clrtxnice indeed22:12
PlayerDrGrov, Well, the difference here is I was setting it up with xfce4, I think unity might work reasonably out-of-the-box.22:12
clrtxthanx apreciated22:12
Ugb3Player: It say that the most recent ones are already installed.22:12
Jordan_Uclrtx: You're welcome.22:12
DrGrovPlayer: Okay, I will test watching some YT videos on the matter and see what visually it means, easier to get a grip of it that way in my opinion.22:12
PlayerDrGrov, YouTube videos need flash unless they switched 100% to the HTML5 player, either way you'd need hardware accelerated graphics which wouldn't be available on a VPS.22:14
DrGrovPlayer: I will just watch them on my own computer :)22:14
PlayerDrGrov, if you want to test anyway, my recommendation would be to download Google Chrome (not to be confused with Chromium) since it has it's own version of Flash Player.22:14
PlayerDrGrov, oh, haha I misunderstood then.  that works!22:14
DrGrovPlayer: I got myself a Intel Xeon E5-2620 at 2.0 GHz with 8GB of RAM, 1 TB drive etc etc.22:15
DrGrovSo I am good :)22:15
timwisHey guys, I've just bought a windows 8 laptop and I'd like to dual boot to Ubuntu. I'm a software dev but I've only limited experience with linux; I'd like to learn more. Should I go with 14.04 or 12.04?22:15
bekkstimwis: 14.0422:16
Playertimwis, 14.04, just for the sake of it being latest.22:16
Viking667definitely 14.0422:16
timwisk thx22:16
Ugb3Player: So, I should give up getting ubuntu to work on my computer ?22:16
PlayerUgb3, You tried installing the mesa-vdpau-drivers package..?22:17
Ugb3Player: Yeah, I told you it says that the most recent one is already installed.22:17
Jordan_UUgb3: If all you want is smooth Window movement, and you don't have other apps that need 3D accelleration, then you might be happy with LXDE or XFCE instead of Unity.22:18
PlayerUgb3, I didn't see that, sorry!  That's interesting though, you purged libg3dvl-mesa ?22:18
simoneciao, cos'é?22:18
PlayerJordan_U, With single digit frames-per-second in Unity I'm not exactly sure how much better it'd be in another DE.22:19
Ugb3Jordan_U: That's not really a solution, I will still need a minimum of acceleration to get a smooth anything.22:19
Ugb3Player: Yes i did.22:19
Yeluclrtx, just a tip: use "adduser" to have a default shelll of "/bin/bash"  - NOT "useradd": this will give the new user "/bin/sh" by default (defined in "/etc/default/useradd")22:19
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clrtxthank you sir Yelu myselve i always use adduser22:20
clrtxthis machine isnt mine Yelu22:20
Jordan_U!it | simone22:20
ubottusimone: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)22:20
Yeluclrtx, I know, but who else wants to read it ...22:21
PlayerUgb3, That's odd, maybe it installed itself and conflicted with the Xorg Radeon Driver, possibly?22:21
clrtxthanks for the info aperciated22:21
clrtxindeed Yelu22:21
Ugb3Player: I don't know, i'm the unsavvy one here haha22:21
simonetenks jordan22:22
Jordan_UPlayer: Ugb3: I guarantee that LXDE with just a text editor would be butter smooth with no GPU acceleration.22:22
Ugb3And 720 video Jordan_U ?22:23
Jordan_UUgb3: Less so :)22:23
Ugb31080*22:23
PlayerUgb3, Yeah, I understand.  Usually installing with the script from AMD's site does the trick but this is a legacy card so that's not the case unfortunately.  I think we'll try two things, removing the Gallium3D driver (after ensuring the RadeonDriver's installed) and vice versa.22:23
Viking667what in the heck's Gallium3D?22:23
PlayerUgb3, I have a hunch that it might be some bad conf file but I have no idea which would it could be.22:23
Viking667I keep hearing of this.22:23
PlayerViking667, Open-source AMD driver.22:23
Jordan_UViking667: It's a reletively new framework for writing Open Source graphics drivers.22:24
Ugb3Jordan_U Player What i don't understand is that the drivers worked well with fedora22:24
OerHeksUgb3, for your ati 4550 right?22:24
Ugb3Jordan_U: If the drivers doesn't work with lubuntu i will still not have a real full screen.22:24
Ugb3OerHeks: Yep.22:25
PlayerUgb3, paste the output of $ dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' here, please.22:25
Ugb3Player: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475349/22:26
PlayerUgb3, Is that all?22:26
Ugb3Player: Yep22:27
RyNetHow do i hide my IP when i connect to a channel22:27
Jordan_UUgb3: What is the contents of /proc/cmdline ?22:28
PlayerUgb3, $ radeon -v22:28
zykotick9!cloak | RyNet22:28
ubottuRyNet: To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.22:28
Ugb3Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro nomodeset quiet splash vt.handoff=722:28
RyNet!cloak thanks22:28
Ugb3Player: No found.22:28
Jordan_UUgb3: Well there's your problem. When did you add nomodeset as a kernel parameter?22:29
Ugb3Jordan_U: I had to do it during the boot on the livecd but never changed it in grub.22:29
nwgUbuntu 14.04 - it looks like Nautilus (now Files) no longer supports tree view in the sidebar.  There is an option for tree view within the lists, however.22:30
nwganyone figured out how to get tree view in the sidebar?22:30
xanguanwg: you might wanna try nemo, a fork of nautilus before gnome stript it down22:30
daliasi'm a new ubuntu user (at least temporarily, got it preinstalled on an asus 1015e) and have a serious mouse/touchpad problem that's clearly software-based: the pointer is "snapping" to interface elements like the buttons in the window title bars, etc. when moved near them22:31
daliashow do i disable this?22:31
nwgthought about nemo.  not sure how i feel about the cinnamon deps.22:32
PlayerUgb3, try removing that perameter in GRUB.  I didn't think to check there since I assumed if you had to do that you would've removed it.22:32
xanguanwg: don't know if it has tree view but it does have double panel view, the webupd8 PPA installs it withouth cinnamon dependencies http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html22:33
FreederI told you I'd be back :)22:33
Playerwb22:33
nwgthx.  saw that link.22:33
daliasanyone?22:33
Playerdalias, Check GNOME settings or CompizConfigSettings manager.22:34
FreederUpgraded to 12.04, after reboot I get 'error: the symbol "grub_xputs" not found."22:34
Freederany thoughts on how to fix?22:34
Jordan_UUgb3: The installer copies manually added kernel parameters to the installed system, on the assumption that the user added them for a good reason (they're needed).22:34
Ugb3Player: How should i do it ? nano /proc/cmdline22:34
Jordan_UUgb3: /etc/default/grub22:35
PlayerFreeder, when does this happen during boot?22:35
Ugb3Jordan_U: I didn't understand what you said.22:35
PlayerFreeder, Before or after the GRUB menu?22:35
zykotick9Ugb3: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"22:35
daliasplayer, it happens even with startx running nothing but an xterm and twm...22:35
PlayerI guess there's a party everyone went to.22:36
PlayerFor a few seconds..22:36
nwgyeah, seems like it.22:36
zykotick9Ugb3: after the edit run "sudo update-grub"22:36
Ugb3zykotick9: Thanks, just did it.22:36
FreederPlayer: it happens at boot... I don't have boot options on this machine22:36
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=== matt_339 is now known as PokingVaper
PlayerFreeder, Right after POST, I assume?  Sounds like a misconfigured GRUB.22:37
PlayerFreeder, are you multi-booted?22:37
Freederno22:37
Freederand like I said, i haven't touched it myself, but I upgraded to 12.04 from 10.0422:38
Ugb3Player: Ok removed nomodesetting, update grub, rebooted, and now i only get a black screen.22:38
PlayerFreeder, Alright, well try booting into a live environment and using the boot-repair utility, or manually reinstalling/updating GRUB.22:38
apols...22:38
Ugb3Player: And i can't even reach the machine with ssh.22:38
Freederwhere do I find the boot-repair utility?22:38
PlayerUgb3, Did you remove the Galium3D driver?22:39
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Ugb3Player: Nope.22:39
PlayerUgb3, Before you removed nomodsetting22:39
Ugb3Nope22:39
PlayerFreeder, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair22:39
zykotick9Ugb3: hold SHIFT after BIOS, to get the grub menu, then use "e" to edit the kernel line, readd "nomodeset", then ctrl+x to boot (i believe, it tells you)22:39
heatherUVUHi! Did I download the correct version for my PC? amd64 is for a PC with more than 4GB of RAM?22:39
PlayerUgb3, zykotick9 I was going to suggest removing it under recovery mode but that works as well.22:40
PlayerheatherUVU, not for more than 4GB of RAM specifically, for 64-bit architectures22:40
heatherUVUPlayer: That's what I meant. :P22:40
PlayerheatherUVU, But amd64 allows you to allocate 4GB of RAM.22:40
heatherUVUPlayer: Perfect!22:40
PlayerheatherUVU, In that case, yes.22:40
heatherUVUThanks.22:40
PlayerNo probelm.22:40
PlayerProblem.*22:40
zykotick9Ugb3: note, that's a one time fix.  you'd have to re-edit /etc/default/grub and readd nomodeset to make it permanent.22:41
Ugb3zykotick9: Ok thank you.22:41
Playerzykotick9, Ugb3  We've been trying to get his drivers working for a while now, I think the problem now is that there's two drivers conflicting or the Xorg RadeonDriver isn't compatible with his card.22:41
Jordan_UUgb3: Why did you add nomodeset to the LiveCD/USB's kernel parameters in the first place?22:41
Ugb3Jordan_U: I got stuck at the 5 orange dot screen.22:42
Ugb3Ok got my desktop back.22:42
PlayerJordan_U, Ugb3, Thinking about it it makes more sense that it's incompatibility with RadeonDriver, if he needed nomodsetting to install in the first place.22:42
DrGrovHow do I check my own SSH settings on my end in 13.10?22:43
DrGrovWant to check a bit into a few options whether it is turned on at the moment and how I can easily turn it on if needed22:43
themanhey22:44
tagninja03600yo22:44
=== theman is now known as Guest12402
Guest12402irc22:45
Guest12402cool22:45
tagninja03600lol22:45
phoenixzAnybody who might know how I can install teamviewer on 14.04?22:46
holsteinphoenixz: i just download the .deb and install it22:46
tagninja03600for what do you need teamviewer22:46
phoenixzI have dependancy problems, specifically with libsound222:47
tagninja03600ad for it, they should provide you with a .deb file for it22:47
Guest12402http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx22:47
holsteinphoenixz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware22:47
Guest12402read that22:47
phoenixztagninja03600: control a remote windows desktop22:47
tagninja03600good question is if they are up to date with ubuntu22:47
holsteinphoenixz: let them know its not working for you22:47
tagninja03600if there is no .dep for 14.04 then run virtualbox with a xp vm22:47
tagninja03600^22:47
phoenixzholstein: I've done that already since long ago (teamviewer deb always has been problematic) and in these years, I have seen no update so.. always the same stupid problem :(22:47
tagninja03600^22:47
holsteintagninja03600: .dep ?22:48
tagninja03600**.deb22:48
tagninja03600sorry22:48
phoenixztagninja03600: installing an OS on a VM just to use teamviewer22:48
phoenixz:S22:48
holsteinphoenixz: it has always just worked for me, out of the box..22:48
tagninja03600and outlock22:48
Ugb3Player: So finally my card is just incompatible ith ubuntu ?22:48
Guest12402use wine I suppose?22:49
tagninja03600you could also register in teamviewer22:49
PlayerUgb3, If you purged the Galium3D, then yes it's incompatible out of the box.  It's just a matter of finding the right open-source driver (preferably one that lists the 4xxx series as supported) and installing it.22:49
apb1963teamviewer uses wine22:49
tagninja03600and run the browser software22:49
holsteinteamviewer uses wine already22:49
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PlayerYeah, TeamViewer probably has one of the worst Linux versions of any software I've seen. haha22:50
tagninja03600nah skype22:50
apb1963nope.... nevernote22:50
tagninja03600hmmmm good point22:50
Jordan_UUgb3: Please try booting the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, but remove "quiet" and "splash" to hopefully see where things are going wrong. Do *not* add nomodeset.22:51
apb1963from time to time my mouse stops working... it disappears from the screen.  If I switch VT's and screens back and forth enough times, it eventually comes back.  Any ideas on this?  ubuntu 12.0422:51
Ugb3Jordan_U: Okay.22:52
Jordan_UUgb3: By using the LiveCD/USB we can rule out all of the changes we've recently made in the installed system. We're working "clean".22:52
zykotick9Jordan_U: nomodeset = system start, without = system hangs - i bet i know where the issue is...22:53
tagninja03600should I use ufw or can I still stick with iptables?22:53
holsteintagninja03600: use what you can use "best" for your purposes22:53
holstein!firewall22:53
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo22:53
Ugb3Jordan_U: for some reason i can't boot on the usb stick anymore, i'm re-dding it and i will try again.22:55
Ugb3Jordan_U: Ok booting.22:57
Ugb3Jordan_U Player: drm_kms_helper: panic occured, swhitching back to text console22:58
Ugb3and the line on top of it Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception interrupt22:59
benccI did something wrong with my .bash_profile. how can I login and fix it?22:59
benccit won't let me log in22:59
PlayerUgb3, Kernel panics, I haven't dealt with those in 2 years, and last time I did it was on OS X.23:00
Ugb3Ugb3: Ahaha yeah usually that's a funny thing...23:00
PlayerI don't even remember how you get additional info on kernel panics, Jordan_U do you have some insight?23:00
=== Bucky21659 is now known as Player_
Player_sorry, had to reset router switch, did I miss anything Ugb3 ?23:05
Ugb3Nope Player_23:05
someone235hi, when my layout is not English most of the hotkeys doesn't work (basic hotkeys such as ctrl + c, ctrl + v etc). Anyone knows how can I fix it?23:07
Praxiwhat is the correct way to have a drive auto mount when it is plugged in.23:08
k1l_Praxi: that should be done by nautilus with gvfs anyway23:09
Praxiits on a server, so no gui23:10
Ugb3Jordan_U: So did the kernel panic gave you any information ?23:10
=== Player_ is now known as Player
PlayerUgb3, I think Jordan_U is afk.23:13
Ugb3I think so.23:13
Ugb3Maybe i should try to find 20€ to buy a nvidia card and get out of this driver problem.23:14
halimoi need to understaand ybiquity23:15
halimoubiquity23:15
halimoany help plzz23:15
DeihmosIs there a simple way to enable the middle mouse button for scrolling web pages23:16
Yelubencc, if you got no chance to log in, than boot with a Live CD, mount your partition and delete your .bash_...-files in your user's home directory. - copy a new .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc to your home23:16
PlayerUgb3, Honestly that's a really good idea.  I'm not saying that's the only way but in my experience Radeon cards never perform as well as you wish they would under Linux.23:17
Yelubencc, better make save copies of the files23:17
Ugb3Player: I just wish something on the ubuntu there were some kind of incompatibility hardware listing, cause obviously after some hours we can't get it to work so it's kind of unsuported by ubuntu.23:18
Ugb3Thanks you for your Help Player Jordan_U and the others.23:19
k1l_halimo: what do you dont understand exactly?23:19
PlayerUgb3, I concur.  That Galium3D driver should've been the solution, but there's no real way for the end-user to know because there's no supported-hardware/confirmed-to-be-compatible list.23:20
PlayerSame with the Xorg RadeonDriver.23:20
PlayerWell, at least one that's apparant.23:21
PlayerUgb3, I'm looking around to see if Linux logs kernel panics anywhere, because the message that it spewed wasn't a lot of useful information unfortunately.23:22
PlayerUgb3, unless there were things above and below that you didn't paste here23:23
Terje_Hello, i just set up my first ubuntu server and i am trying to come up with useful CRON jobs that i should set23:23
Ugb3Lot of things, but ca'nt past it, the machine is stuck, i can take a pickture though Player23:23
Terje_And i was wondering if you had any good suggestions ( i suppose you get this question a lot )23:23
Terje_I made a google doc to organize it :P https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AKKTMrUNNgNz71zzyPNLq4jGrX9UbXZc1qQH7j3XgJg/edit#gid=023:24
PlayerUgb3, If it has info you didn't put here, go for it.  Just make sure the text is somewhat readable.23:24
k1l_Terje_: put your backup tasks to cronjob, for example23:24
Terje_k1l_: I have already added that to my list, it's quite important23:25
Ugb3Player: ok wait a sec23:25
Terje_Anyone can edit the google doc, this way if we all contribute we will eventually have something to point others askign the same question to :)23:25
Ugb3Player: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26470057/photo%203.JPG23:26
PlayerUgb3, Well it seems obvious but the issue is without a doubt with Xorg RadeonDriver23:28
k1l_Terje_: i doubt that. the usecase differs a lot from user to user.23:28
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PlayerUgb3, That was when starting from LiveCD/USB?23:29
Ugb3Player: yep23:29
PlayerUgb3, I assume the same thing occurs when you try to boot without nomodsetting23:29
Player?23:29
Ugb3I guess, didn't tried it without quiet and splash23:30
PlayerUgb3, Try it, it probably will produce the same result but you never know.23:30
Ugb3ok23:30
PlayerTerje_, What is this server for?23:30
hylianafter installing mate desktop, it doesn't appear in the login screen..??23:31
Yeluhalimo, intro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquity_%28software%2923:31
Playerhylian, what distro version?23:31
Terje_Player: It's entire purpose is to run a server that i am developing23:32
PlayerTerje_, that serves what purpose?23:32
hylianPlayer: Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit.23:32
PlayerTerje_, What is the server supposed to do?23:32
Ugb3Player: It seems i'm only getting a black screen...23:32
Playerhylian, does anything appear instead of the login screen?23:33
Ugb3Player: 'im giving up, it's late here and i'm gonna sleep.23:33
PlayerUgb3, can you go to a tty prompt? (I may've asked this before)23:33
hylianPlayer: the login screen, option for openbox, xfce and xubuntu. just not mate.23:33
Ugb3Player: nothing, the computer crashes.23:33
Terje_Player: Users connect to it asking the server to download webpages for them. However there is no filetransfering involved, it will speak to clients in a protocol (because that's all that is neccessary)23:33
Playerhylian, how did you install MATE?23:33
Ugb3Player: Anyway thanks for the help, i'm going to sleep, bye ;)23:33
PlayerUgb3, sorry we couldn't resolve your issue :(23:34
hylianPlayer: i used synaptic23:34
Ugb3No prob Player23:34
Playerhylian, I would try $ sudo apt-get build-dep mate23:34
Playerhylian, sorry, not sure what the package for mate is called, maybe mate-desktop?23:35
hylianPlayer: i'll try that now, thanks!23:35
hylianPlayer: i got this: E: Unable to find a source package for mate23:35
Playerhylian, yeah I didn't have the right package name23:36
hylianPlayer: it's mate-desktop23:36
Playeralright, build-dep that23:36
Playerhylian, $ sudo apt-get build-dep mate-desktop23:36
hylianPlayer: i'm doing that now, thanks again23:37
Playerhylian, let me know if that does it23:37
hylianPlayer: cool, did that. should i log out and check it now?23:37
Playerhylian, yeah, if it doesn't work then it's an issue with lightdm.  if you want to confirm that try manually starting mate from a tty prompt23:38
FreederPlayer, have you used boot repair disk?23:38
hylianPlayer: how would I do that? do i start the x server first..??23:38
Freederit says to delete files using the browser it pops up, but its a web browser... I dont see a way to delete files23:38
Playerhylian, I believe mate has a --replace perameter, so you could log into the DE of your choice and run that (might break something but I just need to know if mate runs at all)23:39
Playeroh he left, Freeder, no I haven't.  I've always booted in with a LiveCD/LiveUSB and installed it from their repository.23:40
Playerhylian, I believe mate has a --replace perameter, so you could log into the DE of your choice and run that (might break something but I just need to know if mate runs at all)23:40
hylianPlayer: hmm, yeah, i think you are right. time to do some diggin and figure out how to make my own lightdm setting23:41
Playerhylian, odd, shouldn't be hard to figure out23:41
Playerhylian, I would bet that they have some sort of means to update the list automatically (like grub).23:41
hylianPlayer: there is a mate-autogen. trying that now23:42
Playerhylian, looking around at basic install instructions for MATE it looks like you need to install a keyring, did synaptic handle that automatically?23:42
Playerarchive keyring*23:43
Freederfudge23:43
Freederand its mounted ro, so i cant even delete things23:43
Freederthis seems to be a pretty silly tool23:43
hylianPlayer: it was supposed too. OMGUbuntu covered it. I have never had a problem getting mate to install before, but that was through their repo.23:43
_[mythbuild-essentai23:43
Playerhylian, alright, well if you can't get it to work try purging it and installing it from their repo.23:44
hylianPlayer: well autogen cmpleted, logging out again to see if that helped.23:44
lorfdsi am securing a production web server23:44
lorfdsand am trying to figure out whether it is kosher to be running ufw and nftables at the same time23:44
lorfdsor should you only be running one of these?23:44
lorfdsobviously kind of new to this23:45
lorfdsjust trying to figure out if these solutions are meant to be run together or not23:45
Playerhylian, did that do it?23:45
hylianPlayer: well that didn't work. I'll do some more research, and if i cant find anything no big deal.My fave desktop is still xfce anyways.23:46
Playerhylian, haha, alright, my best guess would be $ sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf23:46
Playeror nano if you don't have gedit or some other graphical text editor23:46
hylianPlayer: or in my case mousepad, but i get your gist, thanks.23:47
Playerhylian, yeah I gotta learn how to generalize these things better.  assisting people with Linux is way different than Windows23:47
hylianPlayer: true true! :)23:48
=== himansh is now known as paperman
papermanHello all23:48
ODB2Hello paperman23:48
papermanMy first day on ubuntu. I'm trying to enable file sharing with my dual boot windows, but it doesn't seem to be working.23:48
papermanI've turned off fast restart and hibernate23:49
FudgeFreeder: ?23:49
papermanstill no luck23:49
desolatorgood day23:49
ODB2@paperman are you using Samba?23:49
papermanODB2, that may be the last resort23:49
Fudgenvm Freeder23:49
papermanI'd rather just be able to access through home23:49
fwaokdai have a folder at that i run "ruby -v" and I get "ruby 2.1.1p76 (2014-02-24 revision 45161) [x86_64-linux]" then I go to another folder and run "ruby -v" and it acts like it's not installed.  Anyone know why this is?23:50
desolatorI was wondering, is it possible to create a partition out of my windows 7 drive (does ntfs support resizing?), create a ubuntu partition to trasnfer the files and then delete the ntfs partition and enlarge my ext3?23:51
ODB2@paperman, what precisely do you mean, access through home?23:51
desolatoror do I need a backup device to transfer my files23:51
papermanyou know the windows partition that I can access from home23:51
rhspaperman: it's in /media23:52
Playerfwaokda, is this a standalone binary or did it come in a package that you installed with dpkg or apt-get?23:52
desolatorpaperman, sorry I arrived here late. Are you trying to access your drive remotely?23:53
fwaokdaPlayer, kinda new to all this so unsure, I followed a guide online to install. when i do which ruby23:53
fwaokdain the one folder i get /home/fwaokda/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.1/bin/ruby23:54
Playerfwaokda, it's not in /usr/bin?23:54
Playerfwaokda, that might be why23:54
desolatorThere are many solutions that could work, for example remote desktop assistence, vnc, ftp over a vpn23:55
Playerfwaokda, maybe try symlinking it into /usr/bin23:55
fwaokdanope... can i just move it into /usr/bin?23:55
Playeryou might have to run sudo nautilus23:55
Playersorry, gksudo nautilus23:55
papermanyes23:55
papermanguys see this - http://i.imgur.com/ujDV6zu.jpg?123:55
Playerfwaokda, if you're on Ubuntu you can make a symlink by right clicking on the object and clicking "make link."23:56
Yelulorfds, since a server topic is concerned, it might be better asking your question in #ubuntu-server23:56
fwaokdaPlayer, ok thanks i'll try it23:56
lorfdsyelu: ok thanks…didnt realize they were different23:56
Playerfwaokda, if it gives you a permission denied message when you try to move it into /usr/bin, delete the link and try doing it in gksu nautilus23:58
papermanODB2, rhs http://i.imgur.com/ujDV6zu.jpg?123:58
ODB2@paperman very odd23:59

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