[00:05] <Guest18511> hi
[00:05] <Guest18511> hello
[00:13] <fbsd> hi
[00:18] <hunt> hey guys
[00:18] <hunt> im installing ubuntu on a fresh ssd
[00:18] <hunt> i have 8gb of ram
[00:18] <hunt> how should i partition it?
[00:18] <ikonia> how ever suits your needs best
[00:18] <hunt> im not totally clear on whats neccesarry
[00:18] <ikonia> think about where you will use data and size it approptiatel
[00:18] <hunt> im not duel bootoing
[00:19] <hunt> im just trying to give ubuntu enough space to work
[00:19] <hunt> i dont realy know what partitions i need for that
[00:19] <ikonia> ok, so the two main areas are / and /home
[00:19] <hunt> if i need a swap etc.
[00:19] <ikonia> swap can always help
[00:19] <hunt> how big a swap should i make?
[00:19] <ikonia> so you could do / /home swap or you could just do / and swap or as granular as you want
[00:19] <ikonia> up to you really, depends on a few things
[00:20] <ikonia> if you want to use suspend/hibernate it must be at least as much as your ram
[00:20] <ikonia> if you don't want to use that, then you can make it much smaller
[00:20] <hunt> why does /home need to be a seperate partition? isnt home just a folder?
[00:20] <ikonia> it doesn't need to be, it's one option
[00:20] <hunt> so i should make my swap 8gb if i want to sleep/hibernate... for an indefinite duration?
[00:20] <ikonia> if you're new to ubuntu making 1 big partition for everytihng apart from swap can be a good introduction
[00:21] <ikonia> hunt: if you want to hibernate, it needs to be as big as your ram at least
[00:21] <hunt> im not new to ubuntu (afaik) i am however not expert at setting up computers
[00:21] <hunt> is there a reason to make it bigger?
[00:21] <k1l_> hunt: seperate /home is pretty handy for reinstalling or other system related issues. keeps your user data away
[00:21] <ikonia> ok, so if you're not new to ubuntu you should have a baisc idea to lay out the disk
[00:21] <ikonia> or an idea of how to manage the disk
[00:21] <hunt> i dont really know at what point im not new, but ive never managed my own hardware/fresh installations
[00:22] <ikonia> ok, so you're new to ubuntu then
[00:22] <hunt> haha ok
[00:22] <k1l_> hunt: if you want hibernation you need swap. with enough ram you might not need swap besides hibernation. if so make swap equal ram
[00:22] <hunt> ok i think i have 16gb or 8gb, ill just make a 16gb swap for safety
[00:22] <ikonia> that would be a huge waste
[00:22] <ikonia> there is zero reason for 16GB
[00:23] <hunt> if i have 16gb of ram
[00:23] <ikonia> sorry, I thought you said you had 8GB
[00:23] <k1l_> i got 30GB / and rest /home. no swap.  would make / to 20Gb on next install
[00:23] <hunt> im fairly sure i have 16 gb
[00:23] <hunt> oh so / is just system shit?
[00:23] <hunt> like the basic libs and whatnot?
[00:23] <ikonia> 01:18 < hunt> i have 8gb of ram
[00:23] <ikonia> you said you had 8GB
[00:23] <hunt> yea i know i think i spoke in error, my bad
[00:24] <ikonia> hunt: tone down the lanuage, there is no need for it and it's not welcome
[00:24] <hunt> huh?
[00:24] <ikonia> hunt: please don't swear
[00:24] <hunt> oh sorry i didnt even notice, ill avoid it
[00:24] <ikonia> thank you
[00:24] <hunt> i had thought that if i was installing things with sudo they were installed to a / library somewhere
[00:24] <hunt> is that false?
[00:25] <BreakmanX> Anyone got an external display working with an Alienware M14xR1?
[00:25] <ikonia> hunt: packages are installed all ove rthe file system
[00:25] <ikonia> hunt: multiple directories
[00:25] <hunt> im worried that if i allocate too little to / then ill havae to stop installing stuff at some point
[00:25] <ikonia> hunt: how much have you allocated to / ?
[00:25] <hunt> none yet i havent committed any partitions
[00:25] <ikonia> hunt: how much do you want to allocate ?
[00:25] <wolfy1339> what package provides aclocal in 14.04
[00:26] <hunt> well i dont know, id ideally like to be able to operate accross all drives as if they all had the same space
[00:26] <ikonia> all drives ?
[00:26] <ikonia> you said 1 drive earlier ???
[00:27] <hunt> sorry all file systems
[00:27] <hunt> my bad
[00:27] <hunt> i mean between / and /home and / whatever else
[00:27] <ikonia> hunt: you sound like it maybe worth while just allocating / and swap on 2 seperate partitions
[00:27] <ikonia> hunt: seeing how you get on, you can always change it at your next install from the lessons you have learnt
[00:28] <hunt> thats a nice way of looking at it
[00:28] <hunt> ok, so im giving 16gb to swap and the rest goes to /
[00:28] <hunt> anything else i need for ubuntu?
[00:28] <mamece2> hello.  I need help with the dd
[00:28] <ikonia> hunt: make %101 sure you have 16GB of ram
[00:28] <Bashing-om> !aclocal
[00:28] <hunt> how would i even do that without opening up my comp again
[00:28] <hunt> eh fuck it ill open it up
[00:28] <ikonia> hunt: control your language !
[00:29] <ikonia> I wo'nt ask again
[00:29] <ikonia> there is zero need to talk like that
[00:29] <hunt> oh no im sorry again
[00:29] <Chaser> wolfy1339: automake
[00:29] <hunt> its really not intentional
[00:29] <mamece2> i did a mistake using dd. i put the wrong partition after of
[00:30] <Jordan_U> mamece2: You may have permanently lost all of the data on that partition then :( I assume you're now trying to recover what you can?
[00:31] <mamece2> Jordan_U: I hit ctrl+c and just 400 MB were affected
[00:31] <mamece2> Jordan_U: How can i recover whats left
[00:32] <Jordan_U> mamece2: How important is the data? If it's very important then the first thing I would do is to make a full image backup of current contents of the partition.
[00:33] <mamece2> Jordan_U: some data is important. I praying only the music is gone. I want to recover the pictures folders. I have an external 750 GB hd, it had a ntfs partition. I dd from my internal hd to the external. i cancel at 400 MB
[00:34] <CarlFK> mamece2: here is some good reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Extract_individual_files_from_recovered_image
[00:34] <glisignoli> Raised a bug for libvirt... this is going to be interesting
[00:34] <Guest12111> you can do that with two drives and trinity rescue kit thats free
[00:35] <Bashing-om> mamece2: In addition: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ...
[00:36] <mamece2> CarlFK: Bashing-om  tyvm im reading!
[00:37] <Bashing-om> mamece2: : ) .. good luck !
[00:38] <papibe> Hi all
[00:38] <UbuNoob> question How do you tell your video drivers are uptodate and using the right ones 12.04 lts
[00:39] <Jordan_U> mamece2: ext4 creates backup superblocks, fsck.ext4 with the appropriate -B option (to point to the backup superblock) may be able to recover most of the filesystem.
[00:39] <papibe> I installed upstream kernel, but it does not appear on the grub menu. Anybody could give me directions besides the ones found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[00:39] <ikonia> Jordan_U: will that work as the pointers will be gone
[00:39] <Bashing-om> papibe: Fancy meeting you here . Hello !
[00:39] <papibe> hi Bashing-om
[00:40] <papibe> kernel bug
[00:40] <papibe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1319630
[00:40] <papibe> trying to install an upstream kernel
[00:40] <ilan_> hey guys, how i use the MS office 2013 with wine?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> ikonia: You mean will not? Is most of ext4's metadata stored early in the filesystem?
[00:40] <mamece2> Jordan_U: i am reading about damaged hd. my hd is not damaged, it was just partially overwritten. what do u think its the best tool for mysituation?
[00:40] <ikonia> why do you want the upstream kernel ?
[00:40] <ikonia> Jordan_U: yes, bad wording
[00:41] <ikonia> Jordan_U:as in "I don't expect that to work"
[00:41] <papibe> ikonia: Hi. thanks for your interest. Because of this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1319630
[00:41] <ikonia> papibe: is this your bug ?
[00:42] <papibe> indeed it is, ikonia
[00:42] <hunt> how do i decide if i want my swap partition to be primary or logical?
[00:42] <ikonia> hunt: you're only using 2 partitions, so just make 2 primary ones
[00:42] <hunt> ok thanks ikonia
[00:42] <ikonia> papibe: so what's the actual problem you want help with ?
[00:43] <hunt> for my storage space on an ssd, EXT4 or XFS or something else?
[00:43] <ikonia> hunt: just use ext4
[00:43] <papibe> ikonia: I folllowed the instuction here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds. The packages installed OK, But I can't boot into the new kernel. It does not appear on the grub menu.
[00:43] <ikonia> that is the default
[00:43] <hunt> ok thanks ikonia
[00:43] <ikonia> papibe: check if the package is installed
[00:45] <hunt> does encrypting my home folder slow things down much?
[00:45] <ikonia> hunt: do you have data that needs encyption ?
[00:45] <papibe> ikonia: thanks for the idea. it is. update grub finds the kernel, and says it updates /boot/grub/menu.lst, but there's option for it after I reboot.
[00:45] <rww> not on a normal computer, no
[00:45] <ikonia> as in REALLY needs encypting
[00:45] <hunt> nope not at all
[00:45] <hunt> cool so not encrypting
[00:45] <ikonia> hunt: then don't do it
[00:46] <Beldar> papibe, menu.lst is grub legacy
[00:46] <ikonia> papibe: visually look at menu.lst
[00:46] <ikonia> but as grub2 doesn't use menu.lst I'm confused
[00:46] <ikonia> it shouldn't be looking at menu.lst
[00:46] <Bashing-om> hunt: encryption is a layer that in difficult times can not be overcome. Think carefully, do you really need encryption ?
[00:47] <ikonia> he's already says he doesn't and won't use it
[00:47] <Deihmos_> is there no way to change the folder covers from brown?
[00:47] <Deihmos_> color
[00:47] <papibe> Beldar: ikonia  I did. It's there. how should I tell grub to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg, then?
[00:48] <ikonia> papibe: you have a menu.lst file that is not a symlink to grub.cfg ?
[00:48] <Beldar> papibe, If it is telling you menu.lst than you probably did not finish the legacy to grub2 upgrade, this a OS that has been upgraded for awhile?
[00:49] <Beldar> just a guess
[00:49] <mamece2> Jordan_U: I have a question. Now my external hd says it has a little ext4 partition (the one who was copied) and the rest its just unallocated. Will foremost recover files from the unallocated partition?
[00:49] <papibe> Beldar: it is 14.04 recently installed and upgraded. trying to install upstream kernel 3.15
[00:50] <zykotick9> ikonia: nor should you... those are different files aren't they?
[00:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: they are, one is dead one is not, but there have been legacy links in the past
[00:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: so if there was a link there now, I wouldn't break down with shock
[00:50] <papibe> ikonia: yes. there are 2 different files. one a config file, and the other sort of a script.
[00:50] <Deihmos_> how do you change system colors? ALl i see is changing the desktop background
[00:50] <ikonia> a script ?
[00:51] <papibe> ikonia: Beldar grub (GNU GRUB 0.97), is that the correct grub version for 14.04?
[00:51] <ikonia> that's legacy
[00:52] <hunt> this is super weird, ubuntu apparently just installed into my samsung 840 evo, but my motherboard doesnt seem to be seeing it when it starts
[00:52] <ikonia> hunt: seeing what ?
[00:52] <hunt> the drive which i partitioned and installed ubuntu onto
[00:52] <ikonia> hunt: it doesn't see the disk at all, or just ubuntu
[00:52] <Beldar> papibe, Not saying you should do this, but if it were me I would purge all grub and install grub 2 just to be sure, but I suspect this may be a understanding grub issue.
[00:53] <hunt> i dont know, in bios its not a boot option
[00:53] <ikonia> hunt: then you have a hardware problem
[00:53] <ikonia> hunt: if your bios can't boot from that disk - you need to fix that
[00:53] <papibe> ikonia: Beldar thanks. That sound like a good start. I'll do that. Be back in a few mins.
[00:53] <hunt> do you have any clue why that could be?
[00:53] <hunt> youre saying the ssd is broken or theres a compatibility issue?
[00:53] <ikonia> hunt: I don't know your hardware at all, try ##hardware
[00:54] <hunt> ok thanks
[00:54] <ikonia> hunt: I have no idea, but if it's not showing up in the bios - that is not ubuntu's fault, that is hardware
[00:54] <mamece2>  I have a question. Now my external hd says it has a little ext4 partition (the one who was copied) and the rest its just unallocated. Will foremost recover files from the unallocated partition? have I lost the partition table?
[00:54] <ikonia> mamece2: my opinion - your data is gone
[00:55] <mamece2> ikonia: I dont think so. I think its just partially gone. the dd destination is a 750 gb hd and the source is a 160 gb hd
[00:55] <ikonia> mamece2: good luck then
[00:55] <Bashing-om> hunt: UEFI on the motherboard ? .. might take a look at the hard disk and see what is. -> sudo parted -l <- .
[00:57] <morph__> hey guys
[00:57] <botch> I was in here a few days ago and was told if I had a question to do a ! or something  ... help?
[00:57] <morph__> how can i use rsync to back up one server to another via command line
[00:57] <ikonia> botch: just ask
[00:57] <zykotick9> botch: just ask your question.  all on one line, with details.
[00:57] <oro> morph__, have look at duplicity
[00:58] <mamece2> in GNU parted when i type rescue,  how can i put the start?
[00:58] <morph__> ok thank you will look now
[00:58] <botch> I've upgraded my mums computer to 14.04 twice now and both times the screen scrambles shortly after booting to the login screen
[00:58] <botch> I'm seriously considering Windows again solely for the fact that my mum would have a working computer.
[00:58] <botch> Any thoughts or suggestions?
[00:58] <Beldar> botch, Twice? this a cloned OS?
[00:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Deihmos_: What's your problem?
[00:59] <Deihmos_> how do you change system colors? All i see is a way to  change  the desktop background
[00:59] <Beldar> honestly threating to use ms is a waste of time
[00:59] <botch> It was an Emachine that had started both times through upgrading from 10.04 through to 14.04.
[00:59] <botch> I only have a cd from the Linux bible that has that image
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Deihmos_: The color profile?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> botch: Maybe a graphics driver. Boot parameter "nomodeset - for Nvidia and ATI cards ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 ; then from Additional Drivers utility, install the recommneded driver.
[01:00] <Beldar> botch, why not just install 14.04, the official lts is in july.
[01:01] <botch> As someone who comes from a Windows XP environment, I don't know terminal ...well some
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> s/lts/first point release of the LTS/
[01:02] <botch> Also, the time from the moment the login screen comes up till it scrambles is about 5 seconds give or take.
[01:02] <botch> I can't load anything.
[01:02] <mamece2> if i have a 750 Gb hd, where would you put the start and the end and parted rescue???
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> botch: When you see GRUB load up hit E, go down to the line that says "linux /vmlinuz ...", move all the way to the end and tack "nomodeset" onto that and hit F10
[01:04] <Deihmos_> the clors of icons , folders etc. I am not a fan of brown
[01:04] <botch> I'm not sure what the GRUB screen is however I have seen it in years past.  Is it during the logo part when its booting?
[01:04] <does> I am running ubuntu 12.04.I have a microphone that is showing up as stereo,but  it only has one  channel. How do I change it to mono?
[01:05] <__valeriy> oh hey guys
[01:05] <hunt> ok guys
[01:05] <hunt> so i went over to hardware to try and get these partitions visible to my computer
[01:05] <Bashing-om> botch: Cold boot ubuntu, as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu should appear.
[01:06] <hunt> and they told me that im using UEFI, which means i need something special that may be involved with a /boot partition
[01:06] <Beldar> Deihmos_, Helps to identify the desktop at the least, the release does not hurt either.
[01:06] <hunt> does anyone know how i should be partitioning this ssd for UEFI?
[01:06] <hunt> and which partition i install ubuntu on?
[01:06] <morph__> oro should i use duplicity full
[01:06] <morph__> ?
[01:06] <xangua> Deihmos_: pretty sure the icons are orange and you can add any icon theme you like gnome-look.org
[01:07] <__valeriy> I have this bluetooth headset and it work kinda strange in last ubuntu 14.04. It pairs correctly, but the sound is awful, like i start playing music and it gags, then speeds up, slows down, and only then start to sound fine. I thought it's a inux generic problem, but Fedora 20 was working perfect. Any advice on how to fix the work of bluetooth headset in ubuntu?
[01:07] <__valeriy> Please, use my nick, if you can answer my question
[01:07] <Bashing-om> hunt: I say again, You may have ubuntu installed, and only a boot issue presently, to look at what is -> sudo parted -l <-..
[01:08] <oro> morph__ what do u mean by full?
[01:08] <oro> i think yes, btw
[01:08] <hunt> i cant boot into ubuntu though Bashing-om
[01:08] <oro> it must be the package name
[01:08] <hunt> you meaen from try ubuntu?\
[01:08] <morph__> oro when u type man duplicity
[01:08] <morph__> full is an option
[01:08] <morph__> i dont have much time to do this back up
[01:08] <morph__> i jsut found out this server is expiring in a fe whrs
[01:08] <morph__> i need to get EVERYTHIGN off of it
[01:09] <Bashing-om> hunt: From the livDVD ( or whatver you used to install ) // may have to tailor 'parted' to see sda .. not real sure about that requirement though.
[01:10] <does> How do i do that?
[01:10] <hunt> Bashing-om im not sure i follow what you mean, are you saying leave ubuntu installed, and run that command from my installer?
[01:10] <Czeko> Is anyone available to help me with a virtualbox issue I'm having? It involved the liveCD found in the book Hacking: the art of exploitation 2nd edition
[01:11] <hunt> im trying to follow this: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/02/05/gpt-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-13-10-on-a-pc-with-uefi-firmware/ but theres no option for EFI boot partition... is ubuntu just not going to work for me?
[01:11] <mamece2> if you had a 750 Gb hd, where would you put the start and the end and parted rescue???
[01:12] <Beldar> hunt, boot the live and run the command
[01:12] <mamece2> cant locate the partition table in the 750 GB hd
[01:12] <zykotick9> Czeko: try #vbox
[01:12] <Czeko> alright, thanks
[01:12] <Bashing-om> hunt: Yeah, from the liveDVD, you can see what the partitioning is on the installed system. - may have to so some tweaking .. UEFI is way out of my experience, others will have to jump in here to help get the boot code properly installed, if the partitions are there.
[01:13] <hunt> oh man this is such a mess, i didnt think it would be so hard to install on a fresh ssd T_T
[01:14] <needathneed> @seek mindy kaling
[01:14] <Bashing-om> hunt: UEFI, waht can we say ? ..
[01:14] <Bashing-om> what
[01:15] <morph__> msg oro u here?
[01:15] <Deihmos_> xangua, not what i was looking for but thanks. i guess there is no built in way to change the colors.
[01:15] <anton02> how do you check what time it was when your computer last went to sleep?
[01:17] <hunt> ok so heres the main problem im having
[01:17] <hunt> when i try and select my partitions
[01:18] <hunt> in the graphical set up
[01:18] <hunt> theres no efi related options
[01:18] <botch> I accessed GRUB and I think I arrowed down to far and it started running memory tests
[01:18] <botch> Now the system wont boot
[01:18] <UbuNoob> video driver question 12.04 lts intel graphics 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:19] <Beldar> hunt, You will not get far here not following instructions, especially on key issue like msdos or uefi, I wont help without confirmed info, many others wont either.
[01:19] <botch> Whoops got back into GRUB........
[01:20] <hunt> sorry i dont understand what instructions i didnt follow beldar, i ran sudo parted -1 and appeared to just get help info
[01:20] <hunt> belfar what info are you looking for?
[01:20] <morph__> anyone here use duplicity
[01:20] <morph__>  id like to use it, but if i gotta use rsync i will i just dunno how -- i need to back up all the data on one server to another
[01:20] <Beldar> hunt, that is sudo parted -l  l is a small L  tell us when you have an error.
[01:21] <botch> side question for a noobie ... what is GRUB and how would I add something to it?
[01:21] <hunt> yea i do have errors, but not on the drive im installing onto, only on /dev/sda, which is running windows. im tryingt to install to /dev/sdb @Beldar
[01:21] <Beldar> hunt, I'm not particularly trying to help other than to point out that your ignoring key instructions, and now we know any errors may not be shared with us.
[01:21] <somsip> !grub | botch
[01:22] <hunt> my mistake, i didnt understand the significance of that command, if anyone is capable of helping me get ubuntu booting on an ssd connected via uefi, that would be very very helpful
[01:22] <botch> !grub
 ... I didn't see but four lines in GRUB, *Ubuntu ... then ... Advanced options for Ubuntu ... then ... two memory test options
[01:25] <SonikkuAmerica> botch: Highlight the "Ubuntu" line and press E
[01:25] <SonikkuAmerica> (not ENTER)
[01:25] <hunt> ok question
[01:25] <hunt> if im making a boot partition
[01:25] <hunt> in /boot/efi
[01:25] <Bashing-om> hunt: ->sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- do that from the liveDVD, and relay the given url back to us - shows us what the partitioning is on the system.
[01:25] <hunt> how big should i make it
[01:26] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: is that going to work?  do you need to use tee for that?  <- i'm certainly NOT sure.
[01:26] <botch> Got it.  Got into the purple editor screen and added nomodeset at the very end, then pressed enter....
[01:26] <Bashing-om> hunt: If you have started the installer in UEFI mode, the installet 'should' make the boot partition.
[01:27] <hunt> i have no idea how to do that
[01:27] <botch> It then said nomodeset not found ... now it rebooted to the login screen
[01:27] <hunt> im using a usb
[01:27] <hunt> also im installing pastebinit
[01:27] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Tested 1st, works for me .
[01:27] <Beldar> brand new ssd may have no partition table or a msdos, I doubt it has  gpt
[01:27] <hunt> Bashing-om is it possible with a usb?
[01:27] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: all good then!  sorry.
[01:27] <Bashing-om> hunt: Yeah .. liveUSB is good.
[01:28] <jcstarken> Video driver issue The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:28] <jcstarken>  xserver-xorg-video-intel : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11
[01:28] <jcstarken>                             Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901)
[01:28] <jcstarken> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[01:28] <botch> I logged in and just have the wall paper now....But on the plus side it hasn't scrambled.
[01:28] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Hey, always good to have my back watched ! .. I do err big time - sometimes - .
[01:28] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ;)  don't we all?
[01:29] <hunt> Bashing-om: is there a trick to starting in uefi mode?
[01:29] <Bashing-om> hunt: Like advised, I have zero direct experience with UEFI.
[01:29] <botch> Oh, wall paper and the mouse curser...nothing else...
[01:30] <hunt> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7470771
[01:30] <hunt> that is not the drive i want to install to though
[01:31] <Verax> hi ! i have a question. i run on dual boot (win7/ubun13.10) and i want to instal an other distrib. How i can know if during the intalation i write on the others distrib ? thanks :)
[01:31] <Bashing-om> hunt: Look'n at /7470771 .
[01:31] <botch> ....cant really type about this Ubuntu 14 at the moment without cursing.  Will remove it from the monitor and earmark it for Windows.
[01:31] <hunt> bashing-om: thats not the drive im seeking to install on however
[01:32] <jcstarken> botch: why not 12.04lts
[01:33] <Beldar> Verax, You need to manually install, or have an unallocated space for the install that the installer sees.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> hunt: Disk /dev/sda -> Partition Table: gpt ; Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB -> Partition Table: msdos // do not think ya want to mix UEFI and bios 9msdos) partition types ..
[01:34] <Beldar> bingo
[01:34] <hunt> so do i need to make a gpt partition table for sdb?
[01:34] <botch> I might give it a try but I'm fucking pissed at it right now.
[01:34] <hunt> is that my problem?
[01:34] <hunt> bashing-om
[01:35] <Verax> Beldar : ok, with " manualy " you  mean use grub2 ?
[01:35] <IdleOne> botch: frustration is understandable but please keep the language clean
[01:36] <Beldar> Verax, No manually means using the something else option in the install gui and manually installing, IE making the partition('s) and setting the mount point.
[01:37] <hunt> do i need to make a partition for "reserved bios boot area"? and how large should it be?
[01:37] <Bashing-om> well, yes and no, Do not know the full story yet . Can you now boot Windows ? what is on sda ? show us -> sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print <- .
[01:38] <hunt> sda is windows and can be booted bashin-om :)
[01:38] <Verax> beldar : ok thanks i will try this
[01:38] <Beldar> Verax, If you want to do this with help from here, giving us a screenshot of gparted or a list of the HD from the command line would help.
[01:38] <zykotick9> hunt: fyi, if you are using an irc client, you can use TAB to autocomplete nicks vs. typing them out.
[01:39] <hunt> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7470802
[01:39] <hunt> Bashing-om: sda is windows, and can boot
[01:39] <Verax> beldar : ok i will :)
[01:40] <Beldar> Verax, There are limitations in types of partitions and how many so be aware, if you do something to break this you can have a nice new doorstop.
[01:40] <Beldar> just a fair warning is all
[01:41] <zykotick9> Beldar: well ms-dos partition tables have a small limit.  GPT not so much ;)
[01:41] <hunt> shouhld "reserved bios boot area" be logical or primary?
[01:41] <Beldar> zykotick9, True, however we know of neither here, and a bit of lingo explained, that makes me a bit worried is all.
[01:42] <Bashing-om> hunt: Depending on what you realy want to do, Might I suggest the easy way out, boot up the system in UEFI mode - ubuntu fully supports it - with the liveUSB and let the install wizard take care of doing the install. choose the option "erase disk and install ubuntu" just make tripley sure that you point the installer to 'sdb'. Else -, Well UEFI is new to a bunch of us, Some are familiar - however.
[01:42] <zykotick9> Beldar: doesn't UEFI assume GPT?  <- i wouldn't know for sure, as i'll never own a UEFI computer.
[01:42] <hunt> Bashing-om: i would love to do that but im really not sure how to boot in uefi mode
[01:44] <Bashing-om> hunt: Here is the bad news, each and every manufacturer does it different. There is no standard to this time. Read the manual ( not a good thing to say, all we can do).
[01:44] <arthurfiggis> zykotick9: i wish i had known about uefi at the time i bought my last pc, it was a rather unpleasant surprise to "upgrade" from a core 2 duo that -would- boot freebsd to a quad core i3-based system that -wouldn't- :( luckily ubuntu runs great on it
[01:44] <Beldar> zykotick9, Oem wise yes, I have not had one either, but we have set people up on uefi computers with msdos mbr boot, depends on what they want if I try to help, I'm not up in any depth on the uefi boot though.
[01:44] <hunt> bashing-om: for my mb? i can do that, thanks for all the help
[01:45] <Ubunteur> hi
[01:45] <Beldar> zykotick9, Heh, I just want to know what it before I touch it myself. ;)
[01:45] <zykotick9> Beldar: UEFI should "die in a fire" IMO ;)  but using ms-dos partitions is crazyness IMO.  GPT can be used without UEFI.
[01:46] <Ubunteur> My system reported a " divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP
[01:46] <Ubunteur> error
[01:46] <Bashing-om> hunt: We are here to help - when we can - UEFI is the coming thing, and will be good and great. But it is 'new' and not a lot of support.
[01:46] <Ubunteur> But it did not reboot.
[01:46] <Beldar> zykotick9, Heh, I think many feel the same way. ;)
[01:46] <Ubunteur> Is that not a kernel panic?
[01:47] <Ubunteur> It gave me a call trace and stack trace, but the system is still up
[01:49] <hunt> i have accessed UEFI mode
[01:49] <Bashing-om> hunt: Keep in mind in your hunting documentation; CSM is BIOS boot mode, not what ya want to boot !!
[01:49] <ubuntunoob> is anyone experiencing hangs with 13.10 and cinnamon
[01:49] <hunt> Bashing-om: i found it dude! theres a separate boot category for booting to uefi drives, so i am now trying to live instal for uefi
[01:50] <Bashing-om> hunt: Outstanding ! .. as we live and learn .
[01:50] <Verax> beldar : it's a screenshoot " http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=140516035808416843.jpg "
[01:55] <Ubunteur> hey, anyone about?
[01:55] <Verax> beldar ?
[01:55] <holstein> Ubunteur: of course.. just ask
[01:56] <Ubunteur> I got a "divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP" in my logs.
[01:56] <papibe> ikonia: Beldar: Thanks both of you! that was it. I purge grub, reinstall grub2 and problem solved.
[01:56] <holstein> Ubunteur: saw that before
[01:56] <Ubunteur> THis came with a stack and call trace... like a kernel panic.
[01:56] <Ubunteur> OK. Sorry for thr repost. Connection issue
[01:56] <papibe> ikonia: Beldar: I updated the bug if you are interested:
[01:56] <papibe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1319630
[01:56] <holstein> Ubunteur: try booting a live CD, see if the hardware is funcitoning properly.. try the guest user.. try the recovery kernel.. the older or last-good ktnerl
[01:56] <holstein> kernel*
[01:56] <holstein> Ubunteur: make sure you are up to date with upgrades.. otherwise..
[01:57] <holstein> !bug | Ubunteur
[01:57] <Ubunteur> This is a brand new 14.04 install (server)
[01:57] <Ubunteur> I did not know what package to file it under.
[01:57] <Ubunteur> It is a kernel issue I assume, but I was stress testing the hardware with the "stress" package at the time.
[01:57] <holstein> Ubunteur: you stated, and seem to be assuming kernel-panic, so test for that
[01:57] <Ubunteur> But doesn't the system reboot after a kernel panic?
[01:58] <holstein> Ubunteur: have you loaded a live CD?
[01:58] <Ubunteur> The system is still up.
[01:58] <Ubunteur> Not yet, I am on the machine now.
[01:58] <Beldar> Verax, Can you boot to ubuntu and install gparted if needed and take a screenshot of it and imagebin it.
[01:58] <Bashing-om> Verax: I looked at your screenshot, looks good - ; What is your question ( again). ?
[01:58] <Beldar> I was on the phone Verax
[01:58] <holstein> Ubunteur: dont know what you mean by "up", but, no, you wouldnt say " the system is still up" if it were kernel panic'd
[01:58] <Ubunteur> The issue only occurred when I was stressing the heck out of the hardware
[01:59] <holstein> Ubunteur: sure.. you could have broken something.. overheated something.. etc
[01:59] <Beldar> Bashing-om, They want an additional OS on the HD.
[01:59] <Ubunteur> That is what I thought, holstein . I mean I am using the machine to talk on IRC right now.
[01:59] <Ubunteur> It never crashed. Just logged the error.
[01:59] <holstein> Ubunteur: the issue could be *not* the kernel, or ubuntu, or software at all
[01:59] <holstein> Ubunteur: have you tried a live CD?
[01:59] <Ubunteur> Not yet. But the system is running normally except for that error in the logs.
[02:00] <holstein> Ubunteur: thats a "message"
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Beldar[ thanks, will go back to lurking mode, see what you can teach me.
[02:00] <holstein> Ubunteur: wait til you have an error..
[02:00] <Ubunteur> I have seen plenty of kernel panics in BSD over the years.
[02:00] <Ubunteur> But didn't know how the latest ubuntu reported them.
[02:00] <Verax> ok, i will :)
[02:01] <Ubunteur> I was confused because I get the whole trace and yet the system is still running.
[02:01] <fwaokda> my ubuntu was shut off obruptly, and now its like ruby and rails aren't even installed... anyone know why/what I should do to resolve this?
[02:01] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Heh, hardly.
[02:01] <Ubunteur> Perhaps that message was just for one failed program?
[02:01] <holstein> fwaokda: i would check my hard drive
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Ubunteur: When you get an actual error, use [ ubuntu-bug <packagename> ] to file against the package that's causing problems.
[02:02] <fwaokda> holstein, its a virtual drive
[02:02] <holstein> Ubunteur: the message is just that. a message..
[02:02] <holstein> fwaokda: then, it will be easier to check..
[02:02] <Bashing-om> Beldar: :D
[02:03] <Beldar> I know two things coffee needs creme and sugar
[02:04] <DEA7TH> I'm using Ubuntu 14. My mouse clicking doesn't work until I restart the computer, that has happened multiple times now.
[02:04] <zykotick9> Beldar: <OT> wrong ;)  coffee only needs cream, sugar is option - and non-optimal IMO
[02:04] <DEA7TH> It's not the mouse, sometimes only the right click works.
[02:04] <Bashing-om> Beldar: admittedly the lubricant for the cognitive process. Meanhile, back at the ranch.
[02:07] <Beldar> ;)
[02:07] <Ubunteur> I guess I will just monitor for further issues. I will run a mem test as well. THis is brand new hardware, built today.
[02:08] <Ubunteur> Thx.
[02:12] <DrChill> What package contains boost property_tree?
[02:14] <trism> DrChill: looks like it is just in the plain libboost -dev package
[02:15] <DrChill> trism: ty, was writing up requirements for a project and not sure where it came from(and I didn't want to require all of boost)
[02:15] <trism> DrChill: you can always ask dpkg -S or apt-file search
[02:15] <DrChill> trism: Hmm, true, I hadn't thought of thatr
[02:16] <Femboy> Ello guys. I ran into a small problem.
[02:17] <zip90210> ?
[02:18] <Femboy> Asus A6B00U. Trusty install hangs, whether connected to the net or no, on trying to install the BCM4318 driver. DKMS says finished, but installation does not continue, and instead starts an hourly cron schedule.
[02:19] <Femboy> Bug, methinks.
[02:20] <Femboy> Now retrying with card out temporarily. Wish me luck.
[02:20] <Femboy> Also, is this problem known?
[02:20] <holstein> Femboy: dont install that driver.. just install *then* install that driver
[02:21] <Femboy> Doing that now.
[02:21] <Femboy> Well, the installer automatically tries to install that driver, so I had no choice.
[02:21] <holstein> !mini
[02:21] <holstein> Femboy: its linux, and open.. there is *always* a choice
[02:23] <Femboy> The installer detects the BCM4318, and automatically attempts to install the appropriate driver during setup, which makes hangs inevitable. So no, no choice,
[02:23] <psusi> ubottu needs to s/most/all
[02:23] <holstein> Femboy: the mini iso i linked is a chioce
[02:23] <holstein> choice*
[02:23] <Femboy> Not up for mini, really.
[02:23] <holstein> Femboy: or, removing the device. or disabling in the bios
[02:23] <holstein> Femboy: sure.. but it *is* an option
[02:24] <holstein> Femboy: you can choose not to use it, but its there, if you are saying you have no options
[02:24] <Femboy> I had a full DVD handy, so sensible to use that.
[02:24] <holstein> Femboy: what "full DVD" ?
[02:24] <Femboy> Download from the main site.
[02:25] <Femboy> Got it on DVD.
[02:25] <holstein> Femboy: try the *normal* CD
[02:25] <Femboy> That is exactly what I am using.
[02:25] <holstein> Femboy: you said "full DVD"
[02:25] <Femboy> The image no longer fits on a CD.
[02:26] <arthurfiggis> hello again :) on someone's suggestion here i decided to see if i had any memory issues...i sort of found one? i installed a default encrypted lvm setup when i installed 14.04...and although lsblk indicates a swap partition was created, free and swapon -s both indicate i have no swap file "memory" at all?
[02:26] <Femboy> Thus, CD image no longer applies, really.
[02:26] <holstein> Femboy: ok.. try a different one, if thats not working. the mini works
[02:26] <holstein> should work*
[02:26] <Femboy> I'll keep that in mind.
[02:26] <Femboy> However, good news.
[02:26] <Femboy> Card out
[02:26] <Femboy> Aaand success.
[02:26] <holstein> otherwise, file the bug against the broadcom
[02:27] <Femboy> I will later probably.
[02:27] <Femboy> I had Debian on it.
[02:27] <Femboy> 1800MHz Sempron 3000+.
[02:27] <Femboy> A knight if I ever saw one.
[02:28] <holstein> !ot
[02:30] <botch> Apparently on a serious note, I have had a mental breakdown and need to leave........................................
[02:31] <Verax> beldar : the screenshot http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=140516043938142064.png
[02:32] <Femboy> BCM is in.
[02:33] <Femboy> Ubuntu is booting.
[02:33] <Femboy> And up.
[02:33] <Femboy> That took shorter than Debian. Holy shit.
[02:33] <Femboy> Logging in now.
[02:34] <holstein> Femboy: use the ot channel for chat, please..
[02:34] <Femboy> Performance still sucks a bit. GNOME any good? And okay.
[02:34] <cfhowlett> Femboy no profanity required or permitted in this channel.  thank you.
[02:34] <Femboy> Alright then.
[02:34] <Beldar> Verax, So what is in the sda3 ntfs partiton?
[02:35] <Beldar> labeled as a recovery, just conforming this
[02:36] <Beldar> confirming*
[02:37] <Verax> beldar : windows backup i think
[02:38] <whitellama> Hi, I'm unfamiliar with bug reporting, and noticed a bug which expired due to inactivity which affects me. I was wondering whether it's possible (or allowed) to breathe new life into an expired bug report, or if it would be better for me to file a new one.
[02:39] <cfhowlett> whitellama file a new report
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !bug
[02:39] <whitellama> Alrighty, thanks.
[02:40] <Geoffrey2> For some reason I cant get my laptop to resolve any domains under ubuntu 13.10
[02:41] <Beldar> Verax, You Hd is rather full, personally I would not add much more, but that is me. If you want another OS you would have to resize/shrink the sda5 and leave a unallocated for it. You can only add more partitions as it is set up in that extended partition sda4 encasing sda5 and sda6. You also have an error on sda6, this the swap, and are you encrypted? Additionally you have the sda3 at the end of HD, leav
[02:41] <Beldar> ing the partitions numerically out of order.
[02:42] <Verax> okay... yes i'm encrypted
[02:42] <holstein> Geoffrey2: eariler, you stated the same issue.. have you added other dns servers? have you tried a live CD?
[02:42] <Beldar> Verax, Ah, that may be whay sda6 shows as it does.
[02:43] <Verax> can i delete some sda and have one with win7, an other with unbun ?
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Verax what's your RAM situation?  virtualbox might be an easier option.
[02:45] <Beldar> Verax, Only the recovery, really, vbox may be better as suggested.
[02:46] <johnjohn101> brasero says i have 1.4 GB free on my dvd-r dvd.  it's a brand new blank dvd
[02:47] <Verax> well... you must know that I'm not familar with this sda stuff :/
[02:47] <Geoffrey2> Holstein, i'll have to try a live CD...every other device works fine with this router..and the laptop connects without a hitch when running Windows 7
[02:48] <cfhowlett> Verax WHAT is your ram?
[02:49] <holstein> Geoffrey2: sure.. have you tried setting the dns settings manually?
[02:49] <holstein> Geoffrey2: try that.. set to google or open dns
[02:50] <Verax> wtf is that ram ?
[02:51] <Verax> sorry, where i can find this information ?
[02:51] <cfhowlett> Verax random access memory.  open your terminal, type           free                   and hit <enter>
[02:51] <cfhowlett> Verax mem: total is the number we want
[02:52] <holstein> Geoffrey2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf for example.. try that and report back, please
[02:52] <Geoffrey2> Holstein,  I did a quick check, and the DNS servers showing are correct for Comcast, my ISP
[02:52] <holstein> Geoffrey2: you should spend hours and hours on this issue
[02:52] <holstein> Geoffrey2: sure.. im not saying they are not "correct".. im asking you to specify manually googles or openDNS
[02:55] <Verax> men total : 4015264
[02:55] <holstein> Verax: mem
[02:56] <bricker`LA> Hello, I increased the size of the virtual hard disk in VMWare, and I also added a second hard disk, but it's not showing up in ubuntu. How do I re-partition the disks so I can start using the extra space?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> Verax so you've got 4 gigs of ram.  I suggest this: install virtualbox to windows.  download 32 bit lubuntu.  install lubuntu into virtualbox.
[02:56] <Verax>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:56] <Verax> Mem:       4015264    3033532     981732          0     177936    1755072
[02:56] <Verax> -/+ buffers/cache:    1100524    2914740
[02:56] <Verax> Swap:      4159484          0    4159484
[02:56] <cfhowlett> Verax so partitioning required
[02:58] <cfhowlett> *NO* partitioning required
[02:59] <Verax> with only win7 and ubuntu, i can't add a new one ?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> Verax I've given you the safest option
[02:59] <cfhowlett> Verax wait, you've already installed ubuntu?
[03:00] <Verax> yes
[03:00] <cfhowlett> Verax forget my suggestion.  I didn't have all the facts.
[03:00] <Verax> ok, no problem ^^
[03:01] <DaRude> So i chose two monitors to be different screens in nvidia settings. They load, but i don't see a panel on screen 1, and the cursor looks like X
[03:03] <Verax> and as my mentor said " I Too Like to Live Dangerously "
[03:04] <DaRude> lol is that in my regard?
[03:14] <Nexard> test
[03:15] <BishBosh> dfds
[03:15] <BishBosh> no text
[03:21] <doomlord_> do any of the lighter window managers work with a globalmenu. (strangely, ubuntu unity is quite laggy on my machine, but other window managers are fine, even with compositing )
[03:22] <whoever> channel pol: how many here keep their OS on a seperate drive then their os
[03:22] <Beldar> doomlord_, Unity is a plugin in compiz, the window manager.
[03:22] <Beldar> whoever, WE don;t do polls here.
[03:22] <whoever> * that should be seperate drive for their os and another for their data
[03:23] <Beldar> still off topic
[03:23] <Obiwantje> Guys - I am on kernel version 3.14.3-031403-generic and I am trying to install cpupower - but am getting the following error:
[03:23] <whoever> Beldar: thx, i was checking to see if there where others, other than me, and what disk size they use
[03:23] <Obiwantje> WARNING: cpupower not found for kernel 3.14.3-031403
[03:23] <Obiwantje>   You may need to install the following packages for this specific kernel:
[03:23] <Obiwantje>     linux-tools-3.14.3-031403-generic
[03:23] <Obiwantje>     linux-cloud-tools-3.14.3-031403-generic
[03:23] <Obiwantje>   You may also want to install one of the following packages to keep up to date:
[03:23] <unopaste> Obiwantje you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:23] <titangiant> how do i get my keyboard to light up
[03:24] <cfhowlett> doomlord_ short answer; install and test for yourself; sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde                  will get you the most popular options
[03:24] <marcos> I stupidly hit "Startx" while on ssh from putty on a ubuntu server. Now I cant access it using x2go because xserver is refusing access to it although i can still ssh
[03:24] <DaRude> any help  with separate screens?
[03:24] <deSouza> a friend of mine needs help
[03:25] <Obiwantje> oops - sorry about that. getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471061/
[03:25] <Obiwantje> what is the correct command to install cpupower for my setup?
 i replced vid drivers via the ubuntu store thing
 to try and get the gl stuff to work with steam
 now i only have terminal access broken pipe dont know how to fix
 need to either get desktop to run so i can try another set of drivers, or someone tell me drivers which actually work
[03:25] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I set up "everyone have a key file could login SSH" ?
[03:25] <Beldar> Obiwantje, THis 14.10?
[03:25] <Obiwantje> yes Beldar 64bit with updated kernel
[03:26] <Obiwantje> kernel 3.14.3-031403
[03:26] <Beldar> Obiwantje, You want #ubuntu+1 that is the devlopment channel.
[03:26] <holstein> lkthomas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[03:26] <Obiwantje> will do
[03:26] <Obiwantje> thanks
[03:26] <Beldar> no problem. ;)
[03:27] <deSouza> anybody can help?
[03:27] <Beldar> deSouza, Have them come here.
[03:27] <holstein> deSouza: your friend is welcome to come here and get help from a volunteer
[03:28] <deSouza> they cant
[03:28] <holstein> deSouza: then, tell them help is here when they can make it
[03:28] <deSouza> on a tablet on another network, cant connect to freenode
[03:28] <holstein> deSouza: tell them how to remove the packages they think broke the system.. there is a recovery kernel
[03:29] <deSouza> how do i do that holstein?
[03:29] <holstein> deSouza: sometimes, its as easy as removing or modifying a custom xorg.conf file put im place
[03:29] <holstein> deSouza: you would need to determine what the user has installed.. i typically just ask
[03:31] <holstein> !ati | deSouza
[03:33] <deSouza> ty
[03:33] <deSouza> im passing it forward
[03:41] <bri> Having multiple issues installing a new OS on a blank partition - no DVD drive or USB available so I'm trying to boot to .iso with UNetBootin, but when I reboot and select the Grub entry, it gives errors. Tutorials explain this process as being exceedingly simple, but..
[03:42] <psusi> bri, umm... what?  unetbootin prepares a usb stick to boot and install
[03:43] <deSouza> !intel
[03:43] <deSouza> holstein, how do i do to get the intel video cards
[03:43] <deSouza> link
[03:44] <|PuNKCaT|> hello, I have ISSUES.. need some help please
[03:44] <holstein> deSouza: intel cards dont need drivers like that
[03:44] <deSouza> holstein, ITS |PuNKCaT|
[03:45] <holstein> deSouza: so, your friend likely did something else, or installed something improperly, or got something from a 3rd party
[03:45] <Beldar> bri, What is the new OS, you can use grub to boot 'some' iso's, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:45] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: well what issuses
[03:45] <holstein> deSouza: intel drivers are included in the kernel.. the kernel is modular, so what can be included typically is included
[03:45] <|PuNKCaT|> I updated my driver, it SUCKS, I tried updating it a second time - it destroyed the desktop... I just fucking want Steam to run :/
[03:45] <bri> It has an install mode where it unpacks an iso to the local drive (annoyingly, it does this loose in / to multiple folders..) and then supposedly boots into it - it calls this a "frugal install" ..
[03:45] <Beldar> !language | |PuNKCaT|
[03:45] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: please no language..
[03:45] <|PuNKCaT|> eh sorry :/
[03:45] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: what driver did you update
[03:46] <holstein> Pumpkin-: nothing about linux or ubuntu is preventing you from running steam
[03:46] <holstein> !steam
[03:46] <bri> Oh, Mint 16 Cinnamon. Which is in UNetBootin's downloadable list, so I might try that instead of using my own iso...
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !netboot
[03:46] <|PuNKCaT|> I'm on 12.4.4 and I am having open GL issues
[03:46] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: the steam community suggest the xorg edgers PPA.. is that what you added to install a drvier?
[03:46] <holstein> driver*
[03:46] <|PuNKCaT|> I dunno
[03:46] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: well, who can we ask?
[03:46] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: try 14.04
[03:47] <|PuNKCaT|> I had everything crash and burn, so I don't have the terminal logs
[03:47] <bri> Actually this might be a version problem.. one website recommends a different one.. let me try that and see what happens, this might be a known issue, heh.
[03:47] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: updated driver from what to what
[03:47] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: i would need the information about what you installed and how.. where did you get what?
[03:47] <|PuNKCaT|> I DON'T KNOW
[03:47] <Ben64> step 1. chill
[03:47] <|PuNKCaT|> I was following insteructions from someone
[03:47] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: then ask then to undo what broke your system
[03:47] <|PuNKCaT|> sorry, it's been a long day
[03:48] <|PuNKCaT|> was from a website, which I also lost, when the system burned to the ground
[03:48] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: what instructions were you following?
[03:48] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: and I got up this morning because someone told me to
[03:48] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: i suggest 14.04 fresh install and come here *before* doing any driver maintanence
[03:48] <whoever> holstein: thx i also suggested that
[03:48] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't /want/ to run the non stable version, 12.4 is the  stable one
[03:48] <Beldar> bri, That grub iso boot link I gave should boot mint.
[03:48] <Ben64> 14.04 is stable
[03:49] <holstein> 14.04 *is* stable, and release.. and LTS..
[03:49] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: where have you been
[03:49] <whoever> 12.04 is dead
[03:49] <|PuNKCaT|> in my hobbit hole
[03:49] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: 14.04 is what i, and the steam community suggest.. and all users here
[03:49] <|PuNKCaT|> well that's not what I was told when I installed it
[03:49] <Ben64> whoever: 12.04 still has 3 years of support, not dead
[03:49] <lkthomas> interesting that when I create ssh key, it works on my local machine but when I copy .pub key to another host, I can't login to ssh anymore
[03:49] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: doenst matter what you were told.. this is searchable fact.. 14.04 is released and stable
[03:50] <holstein> !14.04
[03:50] <|PuNKCaT|> so if I install 14. will I wipe my hard drive?
[03:50] <whoever> Ben64: oh, i thaught once the new lts came out support was for the prevoious lts would slowly go away -
[03:50] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: all drives fail.. so you will lose that data at some point. might as well make a proper backup now
[03:50] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: it has the ability to. really depends on how you set up your current partitions
[03:50] <cfhowlett> whoever 5 years support for LTS
[03:50] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: if your system is broken, you may need to fresh install
[03:50] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: yes, because I am not there to get out the clorox wipes and do it for you
[03:51] <whoever> cfhowlett: thx
[03:52] <whoever> |PuNKCaT|: install 14 and come back is what we all say
[03:52] <|PuNKCaT|> yeah thanks SO MUCH
[03:52] <|PuNKCaT|> :/
[03:52] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: or, talk us through what you did to break your system.. otherwise, 14.04 install is what steam suggests..
[03:53] <enmil> hey. i removed the titlebar and borders of terminator in window/program-specific options (kde kwin) but wanted it back so i removed the setting i made. but its still gone. does anyone know how to get it back? :S
[03:54] <|PuNKCaT|> I tried to update the video drivers so the system would say an actual driver rather than standard.. I don't even /know/ if my system will run 14
[03:55] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: the intel drivers in the kernel are the best choice. there is no need to update them
[03:55] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: you can try 14.04 live.. but, any system that can run 12.04 and a modern game would be better off on 14.04
[03:56] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: 14.04 is what steam is supporting now
[03:56] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: could be, you dont get 3d support in linux with your hardware
[03:56] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't know
[03:56] <|PuNKCaT|> I could run steam on the original drivers, just not the games
[03:57] <|PuNKCaT|> now I can't even get the steam consol to load up
[03:57] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: sure.. and you were not promised by the manufacturer of the hardware that you would be 3d support in linux
[03:57] <|PuNKCaT|> and I don't have much bandwidth left for the month, so installing 14 could be the last straw
[03:58] <|PuNKCaT|> the box is ancient, I don't expect much out of something with onboard intel graphics, but damn.. be /nice/ if the game I paid for would work
[03:59] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: thats not how it works.. you pay for the game.. the game has requirements. you meet them or the game doesnt work
[03:59] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: paying for the game doesnt guarantee anything..
[03:59] <|PuNKCaT|> I know that, I'm not thick
[03:59] <|PuNKCaT|> I mean it would be /nice/ if I could get my machine to run it
[04:00] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: no software or driver will allow an ancient embedded graphics intel box play steam games
[04:00] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: it wont
[04:00] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: the hardware manufacturer, nor steam.. nor anyone promised you ghat
[04:00] <holstein> that*
[04:00] <|PuNKCaT|> you don't have to beat the point to death man, it's kinda rude
[04:00] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: you should try and have realistic expectations for the hardware..
[04:01] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: im not trying to be rude.. im trying to give you support.. and factual information
[04:01] <|PuNKCaT|> I just want to revert the graphics card back to the original that comes with the 12.4 normally
[04:01] <cfhowlett> |PuNKCaT| ask your next support question...
[04:01] <|PuNKCaT|> ^^
[04:01] <|PuNKCaT|> how do I revert back to the original driver
[04:02] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: sure.. just let me know what you installed and how
[04:03] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: did you add the xorg edgers PPA?
[04:03] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't know
[04:03] <|PuNKCaT|> ok.. do not know, can't tell you
[04:03] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: i'll need to know that to give support on how to revert
[04:03] <|PuNKCaT|> ah forget it,
[04:03] <holstein> |PuNKCaT|: you can try the recovery console.. you can try looking for an xorg.conf file
[04:03] <holstein> !xorgconf
[04:04] <Geoffrey3> holstein: I'm installing an upgrade to 14.04, I did notice that my DNS problem vanished when I used an Ethernet cable plugged into the router directly
[04:04] <holstein> Geoffrey3: i think you are assuming its a DNS problem
[04:04] <Geoffrey3> so whatever the problem is, it only happens on wireless
[04:06] <Geoffrey3> holstein: well, I'll start by upgrading to 14.04...then see if the problem still occurs
[04:10] <bri> Beldar I will have to try that direct grub method you linked to, I was trying unetbootin so I wouldn't have to do manual editing, but that's not flying.. :/
[04:10] <bri> Sometimes the 'easy' way is more trouble than it's worth..
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> whats the idea behind updates not asking password anymore on trusty?
[04:19] <bri> going grub diving, see how this goes..
[04:22] <Nexard> anybody know tutorial for connecting to shared hosting server via SSH?
[04:23] <grant_> new to ubuntu. how do i find what version i'm running?
[04:23] <Nexard> on right top status bar
[04:23] <CarlFK> Nexard: what you describe alone isn't really something that needs a tutorial.  what host do you want to connect to?
[04:24] <Bashing-om> grant_: Termianl code -> lsb_release -a <-.
[04:24] <Nexard> on about this computer button
[04:24] <Nexard> i want to connect to my web hosting server
[04:25] <grant_> ty
[04:25] <CarlFK> Nexard: are you sure they offer ssh?  (aka shell access)
[04:28] <grant_> i am using 12.04 lts. its a real real old machine tho... any reason not to go to 14.04?
[04:29] <ajoul> I installed psycopg2
[04:29] <ajoul> but can't locate it in the folder
[04:29] <ajoul> any help
[04:29] <ajoul> please
[04:30] <Bashing-om> grant_: If 12.04 runs descent on the box, 14.04 will run even better.
[04:30] <CarlFK> ajoul: do you mean python-psycopg2 ?
[04:30] <ajoul> CarlFK: yes
[04:30] <ajoul> what is the location of the module
[04:31] <ajoul> so that I can import it
[04:31] <CarlFK> ajoul: it got installed to one of the many dirs python will search.  in your python code: import psycopg2
[04:32] <coins> after my upgrade to 14.04 my server's ethernet link is pretty slow, can confirm on three other servers
[04:33] <coins> any ideas what caused this? I am using CAT6 across these, all 1gbps hardware. Static IP's, and resolv.conf checks out
[04:33] <grant_> ya but i think there was a good reason why i chose not to go to 13.04 lts but cannot remember now why
[04:34] <ajoul> CarlFK: yes
[04:34] <ajoul> CarlFK: I was going to ln and then the location of the module
[04:35] <rww> 13.04 wasn't an LTS.
[04:35] <grant_> ahh right
[04:35] <coins> pls snd halp
[04:36] <CarlFK> ajoul: no need.  for a peek about what is going on, run python -c "import sys; print sys.path"
[04:36] <CarlFK> ajoul: that will show you what dirs python searches for modules
[04:36] <grant_> quit
[04:38] <ajoul> CarlFK: I get an import error
[04:38] <ajoul> CarlFK: how can I locate the file
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !python | ajoul
[04:38] <ajoul> lotuspsychje: I asked HOW TO LOCATED A PAKCAGE INSTALLED IN UBUNTU
[04:38] <ajoul> read
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> ajoul: no need for caps, and i was pointing you the #python channel so they might help you also
[04:39] <ajoul> thanks but I am asking something simple
[04:39] <ajoul> what is the folder packages are located in
[04:40] <rww> ajoul: dpkg -L python-psycopg2
[04:40] <CarlFK> ajoul: please run these two commands and paste the output: "apt-cache policy python-psycopg2"   and  """ python -c "import psycopg2" """ the paste should look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471239/
[04:41] <ajoul> CarlFK: I am using python3 and the psycopg2 is installed for python2.7
[04:41] <mgn> l
[04:42] <ajoul> CarlFK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471241/
[04:42] <CarlFK> ajoul: python3 may be a problem
[04:42] <ajoul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7471243/
[04:42] <CarlFK> i'm checking..
[04:42] <rww> ajoul: if you're using python 3, you want python3-psycopg2 instead
[04:43] <CarlFK> oh good.  easy answer.  thanks rww
[04:44] <ajoul> rww: thanks it worked like a charm
[04:47] <AcidRain> where can i find help about connecting to a game that is on the same lan as me?
[04:49] <CarlFK> AcidRain connecting isn't specific enough.  What game?
[04:50] <AcidRain> CarlFK, lol. a game that came out in 1997, jedi knight dark forces 2
[04:50] <AcidRain> im not sure what the issue is. i run about 6 servers on 1 computer that is on the lan. everyone else can connect (from external). i cannot connect, from internal
[04:50] <AcidRain> about 3 months ago. this was not an issue
[05:04] <eN_Joy> i am on ubuntu 14.04, usually ssh'ed via cygwin, the locale is set to en_US.UTF-8, if the bash prompt contains quotation marks, for example, `rm: remove regular file ‘requirements.txt’?`, the quotation marks are always displayed as `’`, instead of `'`, is this normal?
[05:13] <Jordan_U> eN_Joy: Yes.
[05:13] <utsav> Hii guys i createa a ubuntu 14.04 image for virtualbox but whenever i want to do root level process by using sudo .. i get permission denied
[05:14] <utsav> ?
[05:14] <Jordan_U> eN_Joy: If it bothers you, you can use the locale en@quot.
[05:17] <Jordan_U> utsav: Is this a fresh installation? Are you ising the first created user? What is the exact error message?
[05:19] <utsav> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[05:19] <utsav> i am adding a source
[05:22] <Jordan_U> utsav: If you want to edit a file, the command you execute needs to start a text editor. Right now you're trying to execute your /etc/apt/sources.list, which will never work as it's not meant to be executed.
[05:23] <Jordan_U> utsav: What repository are you trying to add and why?
[05:24] <dcajacob05> I have a bunch of 12.04 machines, is there any way to get update packages, like libzeroc from later versions of ubuntu when there is no ppa?
[05:25] <Beldar> dcajacob05, neither would be supported here, nor advised.
[05:26] <dcajacob05> Beldar: thx
[05:27] <dcajacob05> Beldar: is that what backports are for?
[05:28] <omar> Hi all
[05:28] <alban_> hi
[05:28] <Beldar> dcajacob05, I believe the backports are only downloading in developments, not sure though.
[05:28] <Beldar> !backports
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: can he use the !pinning method?
[05:28] <omar> I am trying to downgrade the buggy hostapd package to the 13.10 version, but I still can't get it to work. What can I do?
[05:29] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, for a out of release app, I have thought pinning in general was to keep a upgrade from happening.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: oh ok
[05:30] <utsav> Jordan_U:thanks ... i am adding a source for making new packages
[05:30] <Beldar> dcajacob05, You see the bots message?
[05:30] <eN_Joy> Jordan_U: no it doesn't bother, just weird...
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> someone knows the idea behind trusty not asking password anymore on updates?
[05:32] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, in the software updater?
[05:32] <dcajacob05> Beldar: thx
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: yes, the update icon
[05:33] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, A while back the protocol was changed, there are some that need a password, not sure which. I use apt-get generally
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: on previous ubuntu versions we needed root to update right
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> was just curious whats the idea behind this
[05:34] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, This has been this way for several releases, probably info on the web.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> maybe make it easier for the user to update?
[05:36] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, here's some info, http://askubuntu.com/questions/310132/how-is-software-updater-installing-updates-without-my-password
[05:36] <^v> the select background menu is stupid
[05:37] <^v> it gives me a bunch of images and doesnt let me select my own
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: tnx mate, some nice answers there, seems installing new software requiers root still :p
[05:37] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, Yeah, surprised it was easy to find, viva good foo
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Beldar
[05:38] <Beldar> mmm
[05:39] <Beldar> ^v, Do you have a point related to support?
[05:49] <Voyage> If I want to implement https on my apache httpd server. Do I need to pay some one for CA or its free?
[05:50] <m000gle> I use ibus-pinyin as my main IME on Ubuntu 14.04, simply using Shift to switch between English and Chinese.  However, I've noticed that in the latest version, there is frequently a floating toolbar which appears by the cursor.
[05:50] <m000gle> This toolbar is the one with English/Chinese, Full-Half width etc options, and not the character selection.  It, unfortunately, seems to be getting in the way of my typing than helping.
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Voyage: http://www.cacert.org That said, the vast majority of browsers don't trust CAcert by default :(
[05:50] <m000gle> Is there any way to either disable this floating ibus-pinyin toolbar, move it manually, or place it in a relatively static location?
[05:52] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  whats cacert?
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Voyage: Did you visite the page I linked to?
[05:53] <Voyage> k
[05:54] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  oh. CAcert.org is a community-driven Certificate Authority that issues certificates to the public at large for free.
[05:55] <Voyage> Jordan_U,  so, I would have to use some master certicifacte in my apache httpd config , (that I got from cacert.org)?
[05:55] <lkthomas> guys, is it possible to x11 forward a folder from source to remote server ?
[06:04] <DarwinSurvivor> I've got a laptop that has a runaway process causing the computer to almost come to a halt. I cannot even login to a TTY because the login times out. Is there a way to login so I can kill the process?
[06:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Note: rebooting is a last resort because there is some unsaved work in another application that needs to be saved.
[06:08] <scarleo> Hello, ran a dist-upgrade this morning and apt wants to remove grub-efi-amd64-signed, is that really normal/ok/safe?
[06:16] <scarleo> Very quiet here today or is it just me?
[06:17] <VaticanCameos> When installing Ubuntu (12.04 LTS), does the order of partitions (swap, /, /boot, /home) matter?
[06:17] <VaticanCameos> If so, what should be the order
[06:17] <Ben64> VaticanCameos: doesn't really matter
[06:17] <Ben64> VaticanCameos: although if you're installing now, you should install 14.04
[06:17] <VaticanCameos> Because I've been getting kernel panic traces since yesterday on my HP Mini with Intel Atom processor.
[06:18] <VaticanCameos> Ben64: I have 12.04 LTS on my desktop. I plan to copy my configuration, so I need the same OS.
[06:18] <VaticanCameos> I will update both after that is done.
[06:18] <VaticanCameos> Well if it doesn't matter I can't understand why the kernel panic is happening. Grub is messed up.
[06:19] <Ben64> that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but ok. pastebin the error(s) if you can
[06:20] <VaticanCameos> Ben64: I did use Boot-Repair on LiveUSB earlier last night (I'm on IST zone) and pastebinned the report here. But there won't be much point doing it again, given that I'm not getting that particular kernel trace now.
[06:20] <VaticanCameos> I've seen posts advise setting apart a small /boot partition manually
[06:20] <VaticanCameos> I repartitioned with that in mind
[06:20] <VaticanCameos> Now I'm getting a grub rescue prompt
[06:20] <Ben64> that hasn't been beneficial for years
[06:20] <VaticanCameos> ls -l yields "No file system found"
[06:21] <VaticanCameos> Note: I'd wiped out Windows completely from the laptop when I started out last night
[06:21] <Ben64> so you repartitioned... did you reinstall?
[06:21] <VaticanCameos> It will be all-Ubuntu
[06:22] <VaticanCameos> I'm thinking I should wipe Ubuntu and reinstall instead of just repartitioning and installing (it does say installing, goes through the setup but I'll wipe now).
[06:22] <Ben64> normally i would go / /home swap
[06:22] <VaticanCameos> I don't think it can be a UEFI problem since I don't even have Windows now.
[06:22] <Ben64> but since the boot limits don't matter anymore, it doesn't matter
[06:23] <Ben64> turn off secureboot if you haven't already
[06:23] <Ben64> and enabling bios emulation or legacy mode couldn't hurt
[06:23] <VaticanCameos> Ben64: How do I turn off secureboot?
[06:24] <Ben64> that would be in your bios somewhere
[06:24] <VaticanCameos> I didn't see it anywhere. Strange.
[06:24] <VaticanCameos> Pretty shitty BIOS then.
[06:26] <VaticanCameos> What kind of FS should /boot be?
[06:26] <VaticanCameos> ext2?
[06:26] <Ben64> i'd recommend against a /boot
[06:26] <VaticanCameos> Ben64: Why is that?
[06:27] <Ben64> computers don't have a problem booting after the first n sectors or w/e anymore
[06:27] <mharris> There are other reasons for having a separate /boot. :)
[06:28] <Ben64> and it just causes problems, like when you update and run out of space in /boot and then dpkg freaks out
[06:28] <VaticanCameos> But given my scenario, should I be assigning a /boot?
[06:28] <Ben64> nope
[06:31] <VaticanCameos> Fine, going ahead with /, /home and swap
[06:39] <robb_> yo
[06:40] <VaticanCameos> Ben64: I do not see legacy mode or even Secureboot anywhere in the BIOS. InsydeH20 Rev 3.5 BIOS utility.
[06:40] <Ben64> are you sure it is uefi?
[06:41] <VaticanCameos> I have no idea about whether it is uefi, but the bios still thinks Win7 is installed...
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> Factory installed OS : Win7
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> Okay, that doesn't mean it think so
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> thinks*
[06:42] <Ben64> ok so doesn't necessarily have secureboot
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> I don't think it does
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> And yet, I get the grub prompt again
[06:42] <Ben64> you already installed?
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> grub rescue
[06:42] <VaticanCameos> I reinstalled, yes
[06:43] <VaticanCameos> It fails at apt trying to get packages from the "CD-ROM" (there is no CD ROM on my laptop, I was installing with LiveUSB). Does that matter?
[06:43] <VaticanCameos> But then it says installation complete
[06:43] <FloatingGoat> hello im looking for the official ubuntu touch IRC channel?
[06:44] <bazhang> !touch
[06:44] <Ben64> VaticanCameos: possibly. you could have a bad write to the usb
[06:44] <bazhang> FloatingGoat, ^
[06:45] <VaticanCameos> The hashes don't match I think.
[06:45] <VaticanCameos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[06:46] <Ben64> that's definitely a bad sign
[06:46] <VaticanCameos> ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386.iso has a hash different from what my downloaded iso file has, says transmission bittorent
[06:47] <VaticanCameos> Yet, the torrent file is the same.
[06:47] <VaticanCameos> I don't understand
[06:48] <VaticanCameos> Everything is the same
[06:48] <VaticanCameos> Why is the hash different
[06:49] <Ben64> something must not be the same? try redownloading
[06:49] <VaticanCameos> From torrents? That is the fastest after all
[06:49] <Ben64> torrents have error correction, shouldn't get a bad download from that
[06:51] <VaticanCameos> Ben64: Exactly
[06:51] <VaticanCameos> Then could it be a bad write to the USB?
[06:51] <Ben64> possible
[06:51] <VaticanCameos> gah
[06:51] <nbros652> can I ask a question about QT here? ... Missing widget.
[06:53] <nbros652> I don't know if the problem is specific to ubuntu or not.
[06:56] <RyNet> ask away
[06:57] <rra_> I recently tried to instal ubuntu 14.04 along with windows 7 on my laptop. I encounter a blank screen everytime I log in. I tried installing Gnome. but again blank screen on reboot. Please help
[06:57] <gpestana> hey!
[06:58] <gpestana> What you think it's the best way to stress up the memory to 100% utilization ? I need to perform some simple benchmarks
[06:58] <nbros652> I'm trying to follow a tutorial for QT and the qWebView widget is missing. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:58] <VaticanCameos> rra_: Grub is messed up. Is your screen slighlty purple or a black screen with a blinking cursor?
[06:58] <Beldar> rra_, Have you tried a nomodeset boot?
[06:58] <VaticanCameos> I've been having these problems all night lol
[06:58] <rra_> no just blank.
[06:59] <VaticanCameos> Is there a purple tinge?
[06:59] <Beldar> VaticanCameos, They are reaching the login, way oast grub
[06:59] <rra_> with the default background.
[06:59] <Beldar> past*
[06:59] <VaticanCameos> Ah
[06:59] <Beldar> !nomodeset | rra_
[07:00] <Beldar> rra_: see if that gets you in, seems like your missing the right graphic driver.
[07:00] <rra_> I did that. Purged nvida then reinstalled the laterst one.
[07:00] <rra_> *latest
[07:01] <Beldar> rra_, So you had a desktop?
[07:01] <rra_> yes
[07:01] <rra_> retarted lightdm and installed gnome
[07:01] <rra_> *restarted.
[07:02] <rra_> it seemed to work fine then but same blank screen after reboot
[07:03] <Beldar> rra_, purge the drivers you installed and try again, since you had a desktop at some point.
[07:03] <rra_> also there is an unknown desktop that keeps showing up in display settings. Might that be the problem?
[07:04] <Beldar> rra_, Was the working desktop fine? Why the additional installs? never seen a unknown there, not sure.
[07:07] <rra_> that's the problem. Initially there was no desktop. So I installed gnome and purged the drivers and reinstalled. the restarted lightdm. THe desktop was now windowed. In the display settings there was an unknown display with the default one. I turned it off. The desktop became normal. THen I rebooted the system and poof no desktop again
[07:08] <letstrythis> 12.10?
[07:08] <rra_> 14.04
[07:08] <letstrythis> k
[07:09] <letstrythis> had similar issues strangely
[07:09] <letstrythis> i'm glad your working through it i had no idea
[07:10] <rra_> Ubuntu has some problem with nvidia drivers I think
[07:11] <letstrythis> right now i installed nvidia divers in an atempt to get opencl 1.1 an failed
[07:11] <Squarepy> nvidea cards older than 4 years really suck
[07:11] <Beldar> rra_, Any proprietary drivers from nvidia used and any kernel upgrades?
[07:11] <letstrythis>  i am ow stuck with a 2d/3d overlay after reverting/uninstalling
[07:11] <ben__> hi
[07:11] <rra_> yeah
[07:12] <ben__> eny is iran ?
[07:12] <letstrythis> java no longer loads with aps but i kinda like it
[07:12] <Beldar> rra_, That a yeah for me?
[07:13] <letstrythis> Ben yu are iran?
[07:13] <rra_> oh yeas. Beldar
[07:13] <rra_> letstrythis, you need to install Java
[07:13] <Beldar> rra_, The proprietary drivers wont follow a kernel upgrade generally.
[07:13] <rra_> in14.04
[07:13] <Beldar> not sure what order any of this happened however
[07:13] <helmut_> hi
[07:14] <ben__> jo
[07:14] <ben__> hi /      ? ? ? ??
[07:14] <rra_> brb
[07:28] <saint-ron> Have had LibreOffice crashing my system on 14.04. Happens during resizing...  has anyone else experienced it ?
[07:28] <bazhang> saint-ron, how much ram
[07:28] <saint-ron> 4 gigs... + 8gigs swap
[07:28] <bazhang> saint-ron, what about launching it from terminal, and looking for errors
[07:28] <saint-ron> ill try that.. thanks for the suggestion.
[07:28] <rra_> @beldar is there any way around it then?
[07:28] <Beldar> rra_, Not sure I understand.
[07:28] <rra_> what do you not understand?
[07:28] <Beldar> rra_, Around what?
[07:28] <rra_> beldar, how to get my screen back?
[07:29] <Beldar> rra_, If you installed a proprietary driver from nvidia than had a kernel upgrade, and I suggested that the drivers do not follow, you would install them again as needed. THe repos versions should follow the kernel.
[07:31]  * Nyuwunsewu 
[07:34] <rjd> 'wordpress' seem to depend on libapache2-mod-php5, when in fact nginx + php5-fpm will be installed. How can this behaviour be controlled?
[07:36] <rra__> Does any one have some experience with elementary os?
[07:36] <ikonia> rra__: the guys in #elementary do
[07:36] <ikonia> rjd: are they forced dependencies or recommendations
[07:36] <rra__> I tried that
[07:37] <rra__> they don't respond
[07:37] <ikonia> rra__: thats where the info is, so keep waiting in there
[07:38] <rra__> well boot-repair failed so I figured people here might have an idea as Luna is based on ubuntu
[07:38] <rjd> ikonia: forced I guess, it's under apt-cache show "Depends:".
[07:38] <ikonia> rra__: we don't support it
[07:38] <llutz> rjd: apt-cache depends shows wordpress depending either on libapache2-mod-php5 or php5, so you need one of these packages bein installed
[07:39] <ikonia> so if you install php5 first, it shouldn't use libapache2-mod-php5
[07:39] <ikonia> (I think)
[07:39] <ikonia> as the dependency will already be satisfied
[07:39] <rjd> llutz: I know, and I try to control the order of the installs since it's automated using puppet but somehow apache2 always gets installed. Maybe it's better to investigate how to make puppet do installs a certain order
[07:39] <ikonia> if it's either/or
[07:39] <rjd> I was hoping I could blacklist libapache2-mod-php or something
[07:39] <rjd> chane priority
[07:39] <ikonia> rjd: manifest order
[07:40] <rjd> ikonia: not executed from top to bottom as specified in the nodes config?
[07:40] <rjd> ikonia: the nodes has;  include php5... include nginx ... include wordpress. Seems it doesnt go through it from top to bottom though
[07:40] <ikonia> rjd: there is a puppet option (I can't remember the name) that tells it to execute the manifest sequentially or "in order"
[07:40] <ikonia> maybe worth looking at that
[07:41] <rjd> cool, I will. Just to clarify, no other way of changing prio or blacklisting a dependency? since apache2 is ALWAYS choosen first
[07:41] <ikonia> rjd: you can do pinning
[07:41] <ikonia> so you'd pin first, but I'm not sure if that's a great way to approach it
[07:41] <ikonia> I'd need to think about it more
[07:42] <rjd> I'll look up 'pinning' too - thanks! :)
[07:48] <Codmadnesspro> Hey guys, Is there any gui's that use only 30mb ram to 100mb ram?
[07:49] <bazhang> gui's for what Codmadnesspro
[07:49] <Codmadnesspro> Just a gui like gnome but only uses the specified ammount of ram above
[07:50] <Codmadnesspro> Pretty much like a desktop but only uses 30mb ram to 100mb ram.
[07:50] <bazhang> Codmadnesspro, you mean DE then Desktop Environment
[07:50] <Codmadnesspro> Yes.
[07:51] <bazhang> Codmadnesspro, whats your total system ram
[07:51] <Codmadnesspro> 2gb ram. Gnome uses 1.7gb ram.
[07:51] <bazhang> Codmadnesspro, try lxde/lubuntu
[07:51] <Ben64> gnome does not use 1.7GB...
[07:51] <Codmadnesspro> It does on mine.
[07:51] <Ben64> extremely unlikely
[07:52] <Codmadnesspro> I have graphs
[07:52] <bazhang> Ben64, depends on the number of extensions
[07:52] <Codmadnesspro> I only used a basic gnome with nothing open and still soaked up at least 1.7gb ram
[07:52] <Ben64> i'm using 2.6GB of ram total right now, on gnome. with steam running and a game in wine, and firefox with about 30 tabs
[07:52] <bazhang> Codmadnesspro, so try what I suggested
[07:53] <Codmadnesspro> Yeah I will.
[07:53] <Ben64> Codmadnesspro: i think its more likely that you're misreading the memory usage
[07:53] <Ben64> linux likes to use unused memory for caching purposes, so some things report it as being used, but its just cache
[07:53] <Codmadnesspro> Nope. I have graphs of ram useage without anything open in desktop
[07:54] <Codmadnesspro> Oh well ill try lubuntu
[07:54] <Ben64> pastebin "free -m"
[07:54] <bazhang> Codmadnesspro, lubuntu-desktop will bring in the whole suite
[07:55] <Codmadnesspro> Lxde reminds me of raspbian on the raspberry pi.
[07:55] <bazhang> :)
[07:56] <Codmadnesspro> I own 3 raspberry pi's with raspbian on everyone and as the startup button of the logo reminds me of it ;)
[07:56] <Ben64> and if you're looking at total system memory usage and saying that is how much gnome is using, you are mistaken
[07:56] <Codmadnesspro> Well I open up system monitoring and it tells be 75% of ram is being used
[07:56] <ikonia> that's disk cache
[07:57] <Ben64> ok, pastebin "free -m" then?
[07:57] <ikonia> it's good that the ram is being used, unused ram is wasted ram to a certain extent
[07:57] <Codmadnesspro> Well I want to run servers so I can't have all the ram being used up.
[07:57] <ikonia> do what Ben64 asked
[07:57] <ikonia> it's not being used
[07:57] <Ben64> i explained cache just a few lines above : /
[07:57] <ikonia> Ben64: sorry, missed that
[07:58] <Codmadnesspro> Uninstalled gnome
 linux likes to use unused memory for caching purposes, so some things report it as being used, but its just cache
[07:58] <ikonia> why ?
[07:58] <ikonia> why uninstall gnome ?
[07:58] <Ben64> i really think you're solving a problem that doesn't really exist, Codmadnesspro
[07:58] <carswell> heeeeeeeee
[07:58] <carswell> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[07:58] <carswell> gooooooooooood nighhhhhhht gays xD
[07:59] <Codmadnesspro> Wtf how did chan serv op you -.-
[08:33] <alnassafi> what is the different between --clearsign and -a -clearsign???
[08:33] <alnassafi> I am talking about gpg and gpg2
[08:34] <geirha> -a gives you ascii output rather than binary
[08:37] <geirha> but --clearsign already outputs text, so there shouldn't be a difference.
[08:38] <ainx> anyone know about gnome ubuntu? that is a unofficial ubuntu ? or what?
[08:42] <malinux_> malinux
[08:44] <bazhang> ainx, using gnome-shell?
[08:44] <DJones> ainx: Its an official release if you're ising this http://ubuntugnome.org/
[08:44] <ainx> DJones, yes i using it now, and make it me happy with all stuff
[08:44] <ainx> but i mean ubuntugnome is a new desktop basic from ubuntu, and it's wrong ?
[08:46] <Helong> hi,all anyone know the QT version on Ubuntu 14.04?
[08:48] <ghartz> Helong, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qt&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[08:48] <rahuL__> Helong, what  do you mean by it? Do you mean to install Qt libraries?
[09:13] <Bhargav97> what's the channel for vmbox oracle?
[09:14] <Bhargav97> got it
[09:14] <Bhargav97> maybe #vbox
[09:31] <ejo> Does this ring a bell to anyone?  I'm able to ssh into a docker container that I built and ran, but immediately after accepting my password and showing the welcome messages, my session ends.  Connection to localhost closed.
[09:31] <ejo> This happens when I build the container on a base of 14.04 but not 12.04.
[09:33] <ejo> ... what's really bugging me is I didn't have this problem one day ago.  Between then and now I was building some VMs with vagrant and salt.  But I can't think of something about that, which would affect this completely separate Dockerfile.
[09:35] <ejo> :(
[09:39] <DATAHEAD> Does anyone know what could cause a CUDA install through apt-get to fail?
[09:40] <DATAHEAD> I traced it to a failure in package nvidia-331-uvm
[09:40] <DATAHEAD> Error! Application of patch buildfix_kernel_3.12.patch failed.
[09:41] <DATAHEAD> Check /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331-uvm/331.67/build/ for more information.
[09:41] <DATAHEAD> I don't find any useful logs there though
[09:41] <DATAHEAD> I've got it typed up here:
[09:41] <DATAHEAD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224386&p=13025069#post13025069
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> !info cuda
[09:42] <DJones> DATAHEAD: I'm just guessing, but I would suspect it may be because the nvidia driver is being installed manually rather than through the official repo's
[09:43] <DATAHEAD> I tried doing it through a .deb file
[09:43] <jelly> !info libcuda1-dev
[09:44] <mac_> hi to everyone
[09:44] <DATAHEAD> Yeah, I tried to use cuda-repo-ubuntu1304_6.0-37_amd64.deb
[09:48] <DATAHEAD> Yeah, the guide at http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#axzz31qaYZO9n says to use dpkg on the .deb file and then run sudo apt-get install cuda
[09:48] <mac_> hi to everyone
[09:51] <DATAHEAD> Yeah, tried again - running dpkg before apt-get install doesn't help
[09:53] <olskolirc> ok so we're not using sun-java-7 anymore.  What do I want to download now?
[09:55] <Bhargav97> I'm in problems
[09:55] <Bhargav97> my res is 640x480! I wanna change it
[09:55] <mac_> does anyone know if ubuntu 14.04 is vulnerable to heartbleed?
[09:55] <Bhargav97> But max is also 640x480
[09:55] <somsip> mac_: it's been patched
[09:55] <llutz> !sslbug | mac_
[09:55] <mac_> thanks
[09:55] <Bhargav97> so now I should do: xrandr -addmode, right?
[09:56] <Bhargav97>  but what will be connection type?
[09:56] <Bhargav97> I did: xrandr --addmode VGA 1366x768_60.0
[09:56] <Bhargav97> and it fails
[09:57] <Bhargav97> I tried VGA1, DP1, HDMI1
[09:57] <Bhargav97> and all fails
[09:57] <Bhargav97> how to find correct connection type now?
[09:58] <Bhargav97> ok
[09:58] <Bhargav97> got it
[09:58] <Bhargav97> but now
[09:59] <Hardcheese> does anyone know whether "torify hydra target ssh" is a bad idea?
[09:59] <Bhargav97> when i do xrandr --addmode default 1366x768_60.0...it says: Cannot find mode: "1366x768"
[09:59] <Bhargav97> what to do now to change resolution?
[09:59] <Bhargav97> Please help
[10:00] <OerHeks> Hardcheese, no support for Brute Forcing Passwords cracking here.
[10:01] <omar> Hi all.
[10:01] <omar> Anyone using ap-hotspot
[10:01] <omar> ?
[10:06] <Debolaz> Is it possible to get bluetooth keyboards to work during the LUKS passphrase stage?
[10:06] <omar> Debolaz, hi.
[10:07] <ilhami> HEy
[10:07] <ilhami> Where to locate the JRE in linux=
[10:07] <ilhami> where is it usually located I mean?
[10:08] <omar> ilhami, Hi.
[10:08] <ilhami> Or maybe I mean the JDK
[10:13] <geirha> openjdk-7-jdk
[10:15] <llutz> ilhami: dirname $(readlink -f /etc/alternatives/javac)
[10:28] <ravi321> my
[10:28] <ravi321> can anyone help me with my ubuntu problem?
[10:38] <feitingen> can anyone explain why mountall and cryptsetup depends on plymouth?
[10:43] <feitingen> afaik plymouth is providing a pretty screen to look at while booting, instead of the useful kernel messages and startup messages, and i cannot understand why mountall and cryptsetup should depend on a totally unneeded package like that
[10:45] <Drama_Maker> :)
[10:45] <Drama_Maker> hello every one
[10:45] <Drama_Maker> how is it going today ?
[10:54] <sl33k_> My screen is freezed. Keys are unresponsive
[10:55] <sl33k_>  what do i try? I am on trustyy
[10:55] <KumaranR> Hi, Is it possible to use complete Ubuntu on 8GB USB flash drive and use it as an alternative Operating System for ever without install on Computer hard disk??
[10:57] <sl33k_> What screen combination i try on freeze?
[10:57] <sl33k_> *desktop freeze
[10:58] <sixwheeledbeast> KumaranR: use pendrivelinux
[10:59] <KumaranR> In which way the Ubuntu would not be suitable in my case, where I need to consider for pendrivelinux?
[11:05] <adsc> it's possible, but not every computer can boot from USB
[11:08] <cnj> KumaranR: pendrivelinux is just a tool to load an linux iso on flash drive, it is not separate distro
[11:08] <KumaranR> ok
[11:09] <KumaranR> I just had read it..
[11:09] <KumaranR> >> Ubuntu's  casper-rw feature is also utilized for persistently saving and restoring your changes on subsequent boots.
[11:10] <KumaranR> Do I have to do anything with the casper-rw tool to make the Ubuntu in USB is permanent.. so that the subsequent boots will have changes what had been done earlier (like installation of softwares, operating system config change, etc.)?
[11:24] <mp19uy> I'm using Ubuntu 14 on a lenovo ideapad y580 and there is a problem with the battery estimated time of charge, it says 1 minuted to full charge when it has about 70% of battery charge.
[11:26] <KumaranR> Thanks for the info.. I get to know more about the pendrivelinux now and the setting about the persistent
[11:28] <jackpit> hi
[11:29] <jackpit> are you thre"
[11:29] <jackpit> hi
[11:29] <jackpit> there
[11:29] <NexxioN> Hi
[11:29] <jackpit> what are you doing here
[11:30] <jackpit> well
[11:30] <jackpit> bye
[11:36] <junka> 12.10 is no longer supported, you should fix da topic :D
[11:37] <nullbyte_> searching for hardware, hdds professionals
[11:40] <yohy> Why can't i download iso files from localhost?
[11:41] <rjd> yohy: do you have a service that provides them on a easily accesible protocol locally, then?
[11:42] <rjd> like a web server
[11:44] <ihitdisplay> how do I check if the open source driver for radeon 7850 is installed?
[11:51] <enhui> hi
[11:51] <ubuntuser13> system profiler not showing cpu ,gpu,temp?
[11:54] <greyhatpython> My freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04 needs restart every time to detect Wired network. please help.
[11:58] <KGM70> o/
[12:05] <delta_> can somebody help me? I'm having problems with the unity launcher.
[12:06] <delta_> logging in only gives me the wallpaper and desktop icons, without the launcher or the top bar.
[12:08] <delta_> dropping down to a terminal, unity doesn't start because compiz can't load opengl, but ctrl+C ing it and starting compiz gets my launcher back, without the top bar.
[12:10] <delta_> weirdly, the guest session works fine...
[12:11] <k1l> delta_: reset the unity user settings. if guest works it must be something with that
[12:12] <delta_> I tried ccsm, enabled the unity settings, opengl, reset dconf, both didn't work...
[12:13] <k1l> sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool    and then    unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity
[12:17] <delta_> tried the unity-tweak-tool reset, but unity lacks the indicators in the top bar
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !info sfc
[12:18] <delta_> and when I reboot, I get the same situation of no launcher
[12:19] <OerHeks> delta_, what videodriver did you install, and from where?
[12:20] <delta_> I'm dualbooting from EFI on a macbook air
[12:21] <delta_> I think its intel graphics, and worked out of the box
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> No more 12.10 ! Remember to upgrade to 13.10!
[12:26] <budweiserz> hey there
[12:26] <lucifer_> howdy
[12:26] <budweiserz> do you use tools for database modelling?
[12:26] <lucifer_> no
[12:28] <budweiserz> you let your imps do it right? :)
[12:28] <Ekushey> support for 12.10 is over, right?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !12.10
[12:30] <lucifer_> nope no imps just an operating system designer
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !quantal
[12:30] <budweiserz> LTS  = 14.04
[12:31] <OerHeks> just open terminal: ubuntu-support-status # to see which packages are supported
[12:33] <SonikkuAmerica> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/05/01/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-reaches-end-of-life-on-may-16-2014/
[12:38] <graingert> :(
[12:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Why the long face?
[12:52] <enhui> hi
[12:58] <sang_pencari_ilm> trouble install intel linux graphics installer 1.0.5 for ubuntu 14.....please help me
[12:59] <Pricey> sang_pencari_ilm: Why are you trying to run that? There are drivers built into ubuntu.
[13:00] <sang_pencari_ilm> yeah i knows but....want try it....
[13:01] <Pricey> sang_pencari_ilm: Did you read the documentation that came with it? (This is a bad idea, ubuntu probably won't have any documentation for it but intel may.. still.. bad idea)
[13:03] <Hyperbyte> Hi.  After upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, gnome-panel doesn't start with error "unknown dconf database description: <database name>".  This is because of the mandatory profile I specified in /etc/dconf/profile/user.  If I move that file elsewhere, gnome-panel does start.  Any ideas what's up here?
[13:04] <Freeder> Will upgrading 10.04 via do-release-upgrade work?
[13:04] <dw1> should
[13:04] <Freeder> or do I need to upgrade to 12.04 first?
[13:04] <Freeder> I get "Could not calculate the upgrade
[13:05] <dw1> actually 14.04 wont be offered until 14.04.1 is out unless you use -d param
[13:05] <k1l> Freeder: you need to upgrade to 12.04 first.
[13:05] <Freeder> ok
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Freeder only if you're on a server
[13:05] <Freeder> and how do I tell it to go to 12.04 first?
[13:05] <Freeder> or is that not possible now
[13:05] <k1l> Freeder: not calculating the upgrade could be caused if you have 3rd party repos , PPA or 3rd party oackages installed
[13:06] <Freeder> oh... so do I need 12.04 first or no?
[13:06] <dw1> Freeder: from what i can tell you must do 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04
[13:06] <k1l> Freeder: it only upgrade to 12.04
[13:06] <Freeder> ok
[13:06] <Freeder> so how do I get to 12.04, and how do I search for 3rd party PPAs? It said it disabled them in the installer
[13:08] <dw1> Freeder: google the error, there are a few possible issues/solutios
[13:09] <Freeder> oh, it is still taking me to 12
[13:09] <Freeder> precise is 12
[13:09] <Freeder> b/c .1 of 14 isnt out yet
[13:09] <Freeder> so thats not the issue
[13:09] <Freeder> so it must be a package issue
[13:09] <k1l> Freeder: 12.04 and 14.04. we also have 12.10 and 14.10 so please be specific on that version numbers
[13:09] <dw1> Freeder: perhaps try grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[13:11] <dw1> Freeder: remove the broken ones and it may work
[13:13] <Freeder> ppa-purge isnt a valid command
[13:13] <Freeder> I ran the grep, i have tons of broken packages, it seems
[13:16] <AlexPortable> Can I repair grub / move it to another hdd from my ubuntu installation?
[13:16] <AlexPortable> or do i need live usb for that
[13:16] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable live usb yes
[13:17] <AlexPortable> not normal?
[13:17] <Freeder> for your information, sudo apt-get --purge autoremove   did the trick
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !grub
[13:17] <Freeder> for the next guy that comes along
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !cookie|Freeder
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Freeder makes sense but good reminder.  thanks.
[13:26] <keevitaja> hi, can somebody please explain me my syslog?
[13:26] <keevitaja> May 16 16:25:25 keevitaja-dell wpa_supplicant[895]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED
[13:26] <keevitaja> May 16 16:25:29 keevitaja-dell wpa_supplicant[895]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33
[13:26] <keevitaja> it occurs after every 2 minutes
[13:26] <Freeder> heh, thanks
[13:26] <Freeder> have a good day
[13:26] <Freeder> I'm sure i'll be back later ;)
[13:30] <budweiserz> maybe broadcasting somthin
[13:32] <Guest941> guys , I made a ubuntu Repository mirror to use in local lan . I used apt-mirror tool. when ifinished 64 repo and after that I added i386 to apt-mirror source list and started apt-mirror. They I felt its isnt need to download 32 bit repo also . SO I removed it from source list . But when I type apt-get update from lan machine where I use this downloaded repository to update , it updates all packages and aditionaly showing , cannot fetch 1386 packages. How
[13:32] <Guest941>  to get rid of it ?
[13:33] <Sven_vB> is there a way for adding a fallback wildcard to openssh's authorized_keys? my git repo server uses that to identify connecting users, and i'd like to have a guest account. thought about making a key pair for guest and distributing both keys, but i think that would undermine all guests' encryption.
[13:37] <juse334> HI All ) Can any1 help me. I have a bug - ubuntu freezes in random time and I do ctrl+alt+f1 & ctrl+alt+f7 and it agan works! HELP
[13:39] <whoever> juse334: is it an upgrade or fresh install and what version
[13:40] <naxil> hello
[13:40] <naxil> how to use tail with xxd?
[13:40] <naxil> or | head?
[13:41] <Pici> naxil: xxd filename | tail  doesn't work?
[13:41] <rantic> Does anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?
[13:42] <naxil> pici not.. convert all file..
[13:43] <naxil> Pici, works with xdd filename | tail but not with xdd filename > foo.txt | tail why?
[13:43] <juse334> whoever:  ubuntu 14lts new install
[13:43] <Pici> naxil: because you are redirecting the output to a file... not to the screen.
[13:44] <k-joseph> hi guys, i have gedit, but it is very slow with files which extremely long, which editor is more powerful and may not slow down when i use it to edit files with so so many lines of code and also be able to find "some text" and replace all results at the same time plus doing other exploits with it!!!
[13:44] <Pici> naxil: yes. That is how head/tail works.  Look at the manpage for xxd if you only want to convert parts of the file, specifically the length and seek options.
[13:44] <naxil> Pici, but i remember the command line for see only the header
[13:45] <Pici> naxil: xxd filename | head > output
[13:45] <TeraJL> hi there, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.8.0-39-generic (i've updated to try to fix this), and my first core is allways at 70%->100% even if i turn off evrything and i only have 1 or 2 process running at 1.0% CPU
[13:45] <juse334> HI All ) Can any1 help me. I have a bug - ubuntu freezes in random time and I do ctrl+alt+f1 & ctrl+alt+f7 and it agan works! HELP
[13:46] <naxil> yes pici!!!
[13:46] <EleanorEllis> k-joseph: Gedit can find and replace. I don't know a faster text editor but you could try searching for "text editor" in the software centre
[13:46] <TeraJL> is it normal? i use the cpu indicator and it's set as ondemand
[13:46] <juse334> HI All ) Can any1 help me. I have a bug - ubuntu freezes in random time and I do ctrl+alt+f1 & ctrl+alt+f7 and it agan works! HELP
[13:46] <Pici> !netsplit
[13:47] <whoever> juse334: i had the same issue , I just dealt with it, and after a few updates it was fine, others purged unity
[13:47] <k-joseph> EleanorEllis: gedit so-far allows me to replace one "a text" at a time whereas i want to replace all references for "a text"  in the whole file, is this possible and how!!!
[13:48] <juse334> whoever: I think it is nvidea optimus bug
[13:48] <juse334> whoever:  Do you have nvidea optimus ?
[13:48] <whoever> juse334: well you could try removing that and using the open source one instead
[13:49] <andread612> Docente interno: Pubblicazione del C.V. Tramite portale ClickLavoro.
[13:49] <andread612> PuFFo|6|NeWs-1 xdcc send #1
[13:49] <EleanorEllis> k-joseph: Click the "Replace All" button instead of the "Replace" button at the bottom of the "Replace" dialog box, which you can get to from the "Search " menu
[13:49] <juse334> whoever:  ok, ty man )
[13:52] <whoever> juse334: nope don't have optimus
[13:52] <e01> hello, i am on ubuntu14.04  and have Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD Graphics 2000, is the proprietary intel driver better than the built in one, and what will be the benefits of installing this from intel?
[13:53] <whoever> e01: i don't think it is any better, but the benifit is that you have access to a few extra settings
[13:54] <e01> whoever: i mean if it will add extra performance?
[13:55] <onca> I just accidentally deleted my system kernel, how can I get it back ?
[13:55] <onca> I meant to delete something else
[13:56] <TeraJL> hi there, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.8.0-39-generic (i've updated to try to fix this), and my first core is always at 70%->100% even if i turn off evrything and i only have 1 or 2 process running at 1.0% CPU, i have an I7 and the cpu is set as ondemand(from the indicator), with htop i don't find anything using much more than 1%
[13:58] <onca> apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic didn't put the file back, what do I have to do to reinstall the latest kernel?
[13:59] <AlexPortable> i have 2 hdds
[13:59] <AlexPortable> on which hdd should i install ubuntu?
[13:59] <AlexPortable> erm
[13:59] <AlexPortable> hdd1 contains windows, hdd2 contains ubuntu. on which hdd should i install grub?
[13:59] <dw1> onca try linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[13:59] <dw1> onca (14.04)
[14:00] <onca> yah, dw1 that's it thank you
[14:01] <ManDay> Hello, is there an image of Ubuntu Live (recent) which can be installed on an USB stick as easy as with `dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb` ?
[14:01] <dw1> AlexPortable: why not both :)
[14:01] <AlexPortable> dw1: no idea
[14:01] <AlexPortable> then i get 2 boot messages or not?
[14:02] <k-joseph> EleanorEllis: gedit crushes on saving after replacing the text, the text file is almost 200mb
[14:02] <AlexPortable> crushes xd
[14:02] <shtrwlf> Tera, try updating the powermanager
[14:03] <TeraJL> i've activated the htop processes to show kernel process and i have kworker using 80% of CPU  withou me doing nothing
[14:04] <ManDay> (ncm)
[14:06] <AlexPortable> how can i make a hotkey to run?
[14:06] <shtrwlf> kworker hogging CPU could be many things
[14:09] <shtrwlf> you can use ps -aux|more to diagnose processes more - shutting down unnecesary ones might fix the kworker issues
[14:11] <AlexPortable> how can i make a hotkey to run?
[14:13] <AlexPortable> trying to install grub on ubuntu 14.04; grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[14:14] <EleanorEllis> k-joseph: Sorry, I don't know. Try googling for "ubuntu text editor large files" or look in the software centre for "text editor" and see what the descriptions say
[14:14] <shtrwlf> if your dual booting you put grub on the root partition or / of the HDD ubuntu is installed on
[14:16] <shtrwlf> when it asks for a mount point usually just put /
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> is there an easy way to create a trusty usb stick for both 32bit and 64bit?
[14:16] <k-joseph> EleanorEllis: ok, thanks
[14:16] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje multiboot
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: is that a package?
[14:17] <shtrwlf> abiword?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje I believe it's a method
[14:18] <Player> Hi, I'm trying to set up a VPS running Ubuntu.  I installed 13.10 (as of now our host doesn't support 14.04) and made two user accounts, but I was wondering what groups they need to be in?
[14:18] <Player> Everyone has sudoers access, but I'm missing a lot because things are broken.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje http://multibootusb.org/
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx
[14:18] <Player> To condense my question, what are the default user groups users are assigned in Ubuntu?
[14:20] <whoever> jsamuel: did you get your freeze issue solved
[14:23] <bstarek> hello all
[14:23] <Player> Hi.
[14:35] <slashbin33> la
[14:38] <itmannenonline> join ubuntu-se
[14:38] <leeyaa> hello
[14:38] <leeyaa> is postfix-cluebringer the package i need to install if i want to implement policyd for postfix ?
[14:39] <itmannenonline> join #ubuntu-se
[14:40] <Noiro> i don't suppose anyone knows how to run LoL on Ubuntu, or should I be bugging #wine about that?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !info lol
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> lotuspsychje: There is no hilarity in Ubuntu.
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> :D
[14:43] <bluezone> Noiro, wine but good luck, hopefully in the future companies realize the potential here, like valve is beginning to do
[14:44] <Noiro> looks like #wine is invite-only, wtf?
[14:44] <bluezone> try ##wine
[14:45] <Noiro> nothing there
[14:45] <bluezone> oh
[14:45] <bluezone> probably need to register you nick
[14:45] <Noiro> I am registered
[14:45] <theevil24a> hola
[14:46] <bluezone> Noiro, are you logged in?
[14:46] <theevil24a> hola
[14:46] <Noiro> bluezone, yeah
[14:47] <bluezone> Noiro, then #wine should work, are you sure you're logged in? :P
[14:47] <shtrwlf> unity is the hilarity in ubuntu
[14:47] <Noiro> this nick is registered and I haven't been switched so I'm pretty sure I'm identified
[14:48] <bluezone> Noiro, maybe your irc client is dumb try #winehq
[14:48] <Noiro> that works
[14:48] <porton> I've just installed Ubuntu for my dad and don't see how to start a terminal
[14:49] <bluezone> porton, you can search it if you click the button on the top left (in unity)
[14:49] <porton> help!
[14:49] <Pessimist> Noiro: try playonlinux. There is a beta script for LoL
[14:49] <xangua> porton: control+alt+t or just type terminal in the dash
[14:54] <Noiro> Precise is 14.04? I can never keep up with names, haha
[14:55] <jost> Hi! I'm trying to install packages from this PPA: http://ppa.launchpad.net/zentyal/2.2/ubuntu/  - The download just stalls at 0B/26.7KB. Why could that happen?
[14:55] <rahuL__> citrix, hii
[14:55] <jost> System is a 10.04 server
[14:55] <rahuL__> citrix, are you there?
[14:55] <Player> jost, is this a local server or remote?
[14:56] <DJones> Noiro: 14.04 is Trust
[14:56] <citrix> yes i m here
[14:56] <DJones> trusty
[14:56] <bluezone> Trusty Tahr!!!
[14:56] <citrix> main aaj thoda sa thak gai ti
[14:56] <jost> Player: I'm logged in via ssh, but the server is in the same building
[14:57] <leeyaa> how to find out where apt put cluebrinter's webui
[14:57] <Player> jost, So the request goes through but it stalls at 0B?
[14:57] <omar_> Hi all.
[14:57] <Player> Does it happen in just this scenario?
[14:57] <jost> Player seems so - and previous updates worked
[14:58] <Player> jost, Oh, it's an update, apt-get upgrade or..?
[14:59] <omar_> I am trying to use ap-hotspot (not in the Ubuntu PPA) to setup an infrastructure hotspot on my laptop, but it does not work even after downgrading hostapd. What else can I do?
[14:59] <jost> Player: its apt-get install, yes (started by the zentyal migration script)
[14:59] <Player> jost, if you're using apt-get I'd suggest trying sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[15:00] <OerHeks> omar_, see if your wireless adapter is capable of doing this, has something to wo with the driver.
[15:00] <omar_> OerHeks, I was able to do this back in 13.10. I installed 14.04, and that's when it ceased to work.
[15:01] <omar_> OerHeks, yesterday*
[15:01] <Player> jost, if that doesn't solve it I would say it's an NIC driver issue.  try resetting the network and/or rebooting the machine.  Alternatively you can attempt to access the package source in your web-browser, do you happen to know what repository it's attempting to download from?
[15:01] <Player> it might just be a matter of an obsolete repo
[15:01] <OerHeks> omar_, then seek help by the maker of that program
[15:02] <omar_> OerHeks, hmm.. I see. So, as I understand, there is currently no other way to establish an infrastructure connection on Ubuntu?
[15:02] <sl33k_> Where could I find the instructions to upgrade to firefox 29? I have firefox 28 installed.
[15:02] <omar_> OerHeks, hotspot* :\
[15:03] <Player> sl33k_ it should update automatically, try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:04] <sl33k_> Player: Do I enter those as is? This upgrades all softwares?
[15:05] <Player> sl33k_, Yes I'll upgrade all outdated packages on your machine, however apt-get needs root permissions so run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from your terminal.
[15:06] <jost> Player: accessing via browser work... we're suspecting the network is the problem now, another machine had  the same problem
[15:06] <Player> jost, routers are weird, eh?
[15:07] <erica_> hi i need help
[15:07] <Player> erica_, what's up?
[15:07] <erica_> i need help is there anyone in here
[15:07] <Player> erica_, what help do you need?
[15:08] <erica_> anyone
[15:08] <sl33k_> Player: thanks! Is this what software center gui does behind the scenes?
[15:09] <Player> sl33k_, essentially
[15:10] <Player> sl33k_, software center just runs apt-get update at boot and scheduled times depending upon what your settings are.  If you click the "show details" button while it's upgrading or checking for updates, it'll show the terminal output of apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.
[15:10] <erica_> IS THERE ANYONE IN HERE?????
[15:14] <sl33k_> erica_, Don't ask to ask, just ask
[15:14] <Player> erica_ quit :<
[15:15] <Player> I tried to help them but they just kept asking for help. lol
[15:15] <sl33k_> lol
[15:15] <sl33k_> Player: great insight about the boot timing for scheduled updates. appreciate it!
[15:15] <Player> sl33k_ anytime
[15:17] <rantic> Does anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?
[15:17] <Player> rantic, could you elaborate?  I'm not sure what you're asking.
[15:18] <ikonia> rantic: do you want it to just be a domain member/client, or a domain server/participant
[15:18] <compdoc> rantic, I think thats a relatively new thing, which I havent tried yet
[15:22] <bugtraq> hi
[15:23] <bugtraq> hi
[15:26] <ingsoc> anyone know of a bluetooth adapter that would work plug and play on ubuntu 12.04
[15:27] <ingsoc> i have a belkin adapter that seems to have issues with bluez
[15:28] <near77> hi
[15:28] <near77> anyone knows
[15:28] <near77> why i can't connecti with a local user to a server
[15:28] <near77> that allows ldap connections?
[15:30] <battleaxe> anyone here use btrfs? I'm in the process of moving large amounts of unimportant data to it, starting out with a single device and no subvolumes.  I've filled that device up almost full, then added a second device to the btrfs filesystem.  I then ran an unfiltered 'btrfs filesystem balance' and am adding yet more data to the filesystem while it balances.  was this a mistake?  did I only want to balance metadata and not all data?  i c
[15:30] <battleaxe> an see this is going to take a long time, but i like that it's usable while I do this..
[15:31] <battleaxe> (does metadata, after being balanced, act as parity bits that can be used to reconstruct a single failed device?)
[15:33] <home> ubuntu 14.4 intel graphics ---????
[15:33] <some1_> I was addicted to watching pornography for 10 years, write me if you want to know more :)
[15:33] <ikonia> home: what's the actual question
[15:33] <ikonia> some1_: not welcome in this channel
[15:33] <ikonia> some1_: please don't reference it again, we deal with ubuntu support here
[15:33] <home> ikonia: me need drivers
[15:33] <some1_> ikonia: it's ok
[15:33] <ikonia> some1_: thank you
[15:34] <ikonia> home:  shouldn't need drivers
[15:34] <ikonia> home: intel support should be out of the box in ubuntu 14.04
[15:35] <kfizz> Is it possible to install Ubuntu server on an SSD then use two other HDD in a RAID 1 setup for storage?
[15:35] <bluezone> any idea how long it takes for my applications to be accepted into the ubuntu repos?
[15:35] <ikonia> how have you submitted them ? what repos ?
[15:35] <ikonia> your applications ????
[15:35] <ikonia> what applications ?
[15:35] <bluezone> lol
[15:35] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[15:36] <bluezone> I have an application i want to put in the ubuntu store, it has not been submitted yet
[15:36] <ikonia> bluezone: ok, so I'd focus on meeting the requirements to get it into the store
[15:36] <bluezone> i'm wondering how long it takes them to accept new applicants and new applications
[15:36] <bluezone> ok
[15:37] <omar_> Is there a way to establish an infrastructure hotspot other than using ap-hotspot?
[15:37] <battleaxe> kfizz, it's possible for sure.  you have several options for software raid 1, including mdadm, zfs-on-linux, and btrfs to name a few
[15:38] <OerHeks> omar_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Wireless_Ad-Hoc_connection_sharing_scenario
[15:38] <kfizz> battleaxe, I originally tried using Intel Rapid Storage Technology to set up the two HDD as a RAID1 and leave the SSD alone. Installed Ubuntu on SSD but couldn't get it to boot. Would it be better to leave the BIOS settings as AHCI, install Ubuntu on the SSD and then configure the RAID post-install?
[15:39] <home> ikonia: sudo ???????
[15:40] <erle-> cannot start unity-tweak-tool
[15:40] <erle-> http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/screenshotfrom94jhqap6g3.png
[15:40] <erle-> what does this mean?
[15:40] <battleaxe> kfizz, oh, I don't know anything about pseudo-hardware raid, ie. intel rapid storage.  at any rate that might not be related to getting ubuntu on the ssd to boot - i'd try to get that working first then work on the raid
[15:40] <erle-> all package dependencies etc. are correct
[15:40] <omar_> OerHeks, This is only for establish an Ad-Hoc connection, isn't it? Because Android devices do not recognize Ad-Hoc. :\
[15:40] <ikonia> home: I don't understand, sorry
[15:40] <home> yasno
[15:41] <sudormrf> omar_, so you are trying to tether your phone to your computer?
[15:41] <kfizz> battleaxe, thanks for the input. This is my first foray into RAID
[15:41] <OerHeks> omar_, do they not?
[15:41] <omar_> OerHeks, That's what ap-hotspot was created in the first place.
[15:41] <omar_> why**
[15:42] <sudormrf> kfizz, is this going to be a NAS of sorts or something else?
[15:42] <battleaxe> kfizz, others know more, but I think you definitely want to use ahci mode on the sata ports.  the advantage of something like mdraid is it can be used independently of hardware, so it's more flexible to recover from
[15:44] <kfizz> sudormrf, yes it's going to be a NAS
[15:44] <sudormrf> kfizz, well, generally if you are going to go with hardware RAID people will recommend getting a RAID controller proper.  if you want to talk software RAID I can probably try to be of some assistance.
[15:45] <sudormrf> omar_, are you trying to tether your phone to your computer?
[15:45] <mmazing> anyone know how to bypass the lock screen from console?
[15:46] <kfizz> sudormrf, yeah at this point I think I just need to go with software RAID. Been working on this for over a day with no luck. I'm currently reinstalling ubuntu server on the SSD. Once I get it booted up, I'll probably need some assistance. What's the best utility? mdraid?
[15:46] <mmazing> this has happened a few times, and i probably should open a bug report, but my lock screen suddenly won't accept my password, i can go to tty1 and log in to the console, but can't figure out how to kill the lock screen. i end up having to reboot and lose my work state
[15:46] <omar_> sudormrf, I am just trying to make my laptop work as a wifi hotspot unit. Similar to how Connectify works on Windows.
[15:46] <sudormrf> kfizz, well I personally use greyhole.
[15:47] <sudormrf> omar_, so you are trying to share your laptop's internet connection to your phone....hmm.
[15:47] <sudormrf> omar_, ok, give me a sec.
[15:48] <omar_> sudormrf, Yup. I was able to do that on 13.10. But after I installed 14.04 yesterday, ap-hotspot ceased to work due to the broken hostapd package.
[15:48] <battleaxe> software raid is a fairly broad topic kfizz, i highly recommend you have a separate sandbox system with a bunch of cheap small disks to play with :) i've spent days and days fiddling with this stuff.  but for ease of use, md raid 1 was easy to configure
[15:48] <sudormrf> battleaxe, do you use software RAID?
[15:49] <battleaxe> i've got 12.0.4 on an md raid 1 volume, nothing fancy, and am using btrfs to tie together a mess of 2tb and 1.5tb disks
[15:49] <Hardcheese> how do I purge a user?
[15:49] <battleaxe> i also explored zfs-on-linux, but that was a bit beyond me, and beyond my cheap hardware too
[15:49] <sudormrf> battleaxe, does btrfs allow for more dynamic expansion of pools?  I think that is one of the drawbacks of ZFS.
[15:50] <sudormrf> omar_, did you see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453877/cannot-create-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:50] <battleaxe> sudormrf, i'm just starting out with btrfs, but it does seem to do exactly that.  I've started with 1 2tb, added a second 2tb, and am adding to the filesystem while balancing it, with plans to just keep on going.. who knows how it'll work out, i barely understand how btrfs works :P
[15:52] <sudormrf> battleaxe, heh.  I have read quite a bit about both btrfs and zfs.  does btrfs require the same amount of overhead as ZFS?
[15:52] <omar_> sudormrf, Yup. Been there, done that. Even after downgrading hostapd, it didn't work. :\
[15:52] <battleaxe> Hardcheese, purge a user?  do you mean something like 'sudo userdel <username>' and then 'sudo rm -rf /home/<username>' ?
[15:53] <battleaxe> sudormrf, i think i should be asking you the questions then.  my case is hardly a busy environment, just a media server for 2 people
[15:53] <sudormrf> battleaxe, that is pretty much what mine is.  I don't use btrfs or zfs, though.  I have considered them.
[15:54] <battleaxe> I've used an unraid server for years, and just now am changing it up.  not for any overly necessary reason either..
[15:54] <sudormrf> omar_, hmm.  it looks like this is a problem with the package in 14.04.
[15:54] <omar_> sudormrf, apparently so..
[15:55] <sudormrf> battleaxe, heh.  I know that feeling.  I have been looking in to rebuilding my server as well.  just because :D.  I looked at unraid and freenas (tried freenas in a VM) and openmediavault as well.
[15:56] <battleaxe> the grass is always greener!  and I like freenas, and would like to move to using that to manage a zfs storage box, but I need beefier hardware, so for now I'm just tooling around with btrfs.  It seems magical the way it's working and I'm kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop and something to go wrong :P
[15:59] <Hardcheese> battleaxe: yeah. But you can just use sudo userdel <username> -r apparently, to skip that lats command
[16:00] <battleaxe> Hardcheese, well, excellent
[16:02] <fightingirish12> hey guys i just installed ubuntu 12.10 and im having some issues installing the flashback. im able to get to the terminaland type ui
[16:02] <spaztik> hey everyone, i'm looking for a multi-protocol, multi-account-per-protocol chat client that doesn't suck... Pidgin is ok, but it crashes every 10-15 minutes due to sqlite (where nothing else I'm using crashes sqlite libs, including apps i've written to try and replicate crashing)
[16:02] <spaztik> any suggestions?
[16:03] <fightingirish12> and type in sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
[16:03] <lavvo> To upgrade 12.10 to 14.04 from the command line, should I just replace the code name in sources.list with "trusty"? Or do I have to do one upgrade at a time?
[16:03] <spaztik> fightingirish12: you mean fallback?
[16:04] <sudormrf> battleaxe, I have something close to 40TB of storage at my place
[16:04] <fightingirish12> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/how-to-install-and-tweak-gnome.html
[16:04] <fightingirish12> flashback
[16:04] <fightingirish12> E: Unable to locate package gnome-session-flashback
[16:04] <fightingirish12> that is my error^
[16:04] <spaztik> ahh, guess it changed names
[16:04] <spaztik> did you search apt-cache for flashback?
[16:04] <battleaxe> sudormrf, only about 8TB here.  i'll check out greyhole, never really heard of that
[16:05] <fightingirish12> not yet, how would i go about doing that?
[16:05] <spaztik> apt-cache search flashback
[16:05] <spaztik> so, i think in your 12.x repositories it'll still be called fallback
[16:05] <fightingirish12> oh ok
[16:05] <spaztik> sounds like fallback->flashback rename didn't happen until 2013-09-25
[16:05] <spaztik> which was a few years after 12.x release
[16:05] <delinquentme> Is it possible to disable the auto-maximize in Unity when I drag a window to the edges of the screen?
[16:06] <fightingirish12> so sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[16:06] <delinquentme> I would like it to *just* snap to the edges at its current size
[16:06] <spaztik> you can try that, if it doesn't work just search for fallback, and grep for gnome
[16:06] <spaztik> apt-cache search fallback | grep gnome
[16:07] <spaztik> delinquentme: i think it's the MOVE WINDOW plugin?
[16:07] <sudormrf> battleaxe, it is neat, it relies on samba, so there is that.
[16:08] <fightingirish12> brb
[16:08] <fightingirish12> lemme see if this works
[16:09] <spaztik> k
[16:10] <spaztik> delinquentme: disable grid plugin in ccsm, should be good to go
[16:10] <sudormrf> battleaxe, I have been working on building a new server.  will still probably use greyhole, just making this one more spartan.  building the conf files for all the stuff I need in a VM so I can just move everything over real quick on the day I decide to pull the trigger.
[16:10] <Hardcheese> trying to update. But a few of the packages servers are down.. so I can't install ANY of the updates. What do I do?
[16:11] <Guest3947> Friendly reminder not to join #pandacoinpnd
[16:11] <spaztik> Hardcheese: you mean your PPAs? cuz all the ubuntu servers should be up
[16:11] <ekristen> has anyone see a ubuntu server show connections as established, but the source server showing no connection via netstat
[16:12] <qin_> Guest3947: try this on #freenode
[16:12] <Guest3947> Might as well.
[16:14] <delinquentme> spaztik, $ gconftool-2 --set /apps/compiz-1/plugins/grid/screen0/options/top_edge_action --type int 0 per: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72452/how-to-turn-off-compizs-drag-to-maximize-behaviour
[16:15] <spaztik> delinquentme: nice
[16:15] <Hardcheese> spaztik: it appears that my "update check" so to speak was old, and the update manager tried to download packages that doesn't exist anymore.
[16:15] <spaztik> delinquentme: AH, that's what those settings are in ccsm... i thought for some reason it was defining the locations of the grid, not that they'd snap :S
[16:16] <spaztik> Hardcheese: so you're good?
[16:16] <Hardcheese> yeah, thanks :). I just updated the "what to update" thing.
[16:17] <delinquentme> Yeap! spaztik  Added to configuration script !!
[16:17] <johndow> If I put ubuntu on my older desktop computer, like version 10.10 are there security risks with doing that?
[16:17] <spaztik> delinquentme: nice, yeah i just played with the settings.. i just disabled it as well, was kinda annoying
[16:17] <spaztik> i love linux :P
[16:17] <c|oneman> I like windows xp
[16:17] <spaztik> lol
[16:17] <johndow> c|oneman, dude xp rocks.
[16:18] <spaztik> i like win7/8
[16:18] <johndow> Vista was the best though.
[16:18] <spaztik> lol
[16:18] <c|oneman> heh.
[16:18] <johndow> ;)
[16:18] <spaztik> vista wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be.... esp. once sp3 came out
[16:18] <c|oneman> I want my address bar.
[16:18]  * Monotoko is still on Vista
[16:18] <johndow> waht..?
[16:19] <c|oneman> vista didn't offer anything compelling over xp though. so even if it was 1% worse, it was too much.
[16:19] <Monotoko> never could be bothered buying Windows 7
[16:19] <dw1> !ot
[16:19] <spaztik> uhhhh.... vista brought the win2k true multithreaded processing
[16:19] <spaztik> in xp if an app crashed, your whole OS would hang
[16:19] <johndow> Does anyone know if I put a real old version of Ubuntu on my old desktop, is this a big security risk?
[16:20] <spaztik> johndow: security is only as good as the administrator
[16:20] <c|oneman> probably johndow, it it no longer recieves any updates
[16:20] <dw1> johndow: well it wont have any updates so possibly
[16:20] <spaztik> i.e., if it's on a private lan, not likely
[16:20] <fartface> If I was to connect my Ubuntu box to a VPN, would that prevent me from being able to SSH to it from the normal address?
[16:20] <fartface> Remotely.
[16:20] <johndow> dang hardware won't run newest version very effectively
[16:20] <spaztik> just because it's old, and there are packages that have vulns, doesn't mean you're subject to them
[16:21] <johndow> i guess i could try xubuntu, someone told me it could be ran on old machines
[16:21] <dw1> johndow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[16:21] <johndow> ok thx
[16:21] <dw1> johndow: xubuntu and lubuntu are just regular ubuntu but with lighter desktop managers
[16:22] <dw1> johndow: which you can install anytime
[16:22] <surprisetrex> If 'sudo lspci | grep -i vga' doesn't show my graphics card - is it likely to be a hardware issue?
[16:22] <johndow> dw1, well i need a distro that doesn't take very much RAM to run it.
[16:22] <dw1> johndow: yeah, install a lighter desktop environment over regular ubuntu
[16:23] <johndow> ok
[16:23] <dw1> johndow: see link :)
[16:23] <johndow> looking now
[16:23] <ConnextionEval> Can anyone help me on this linux error i keep getting every now and then http://i.imgur.com/eDa1X0V.jpg
[16:24] <johndow> ConnextionEval, lol.
[16:24] <giacomo_> Hi all
[16:24] <dw1> johndow: i run LXDE / lubuntu on a very low power netbook and it works good
[16:25] <johndow> ConnextionEval, sicko shit man
[16:26] <qin_> !op | ConnextionEval
[16:26] <exploit> I run Ubuntu 14.10 on my HP G71-333NR Notebook and run very good
[16:27] <johndow> thanks
[16:27] <exploit> any native C++ for Ubuntu?
[16:27] <Quetza> How can I convert a binary that uses loads of shared libraries into a single self-contained binary with no library dependencies?
[16:28] <qin_> Quetza: add libs to package?
[16:28] <giacomo_> How can I use whois in irssi?
[16:28] <Quetza> qin_: I want a single binary, not a package with all the libs
[16:29] <exploit> you want binary file?
[16:29] <ManDay> I've booted 14.04 LTS, does anyone know where to get SKYPE from?
[16:29] <exploit> from the Internet
[16:29] <ManDay> I've added "Canonical partner" but when I enter "skype" in the Ubuntu Software Center, I get no suitable results
[16:29] <exploit> www.skype.com
[16:29] <tmager> ManDay: you can just get it from their website, the really backlevel version for Ubuntu works fine
[16:29] <ManDay> ok ty, - just out of curiousity, why is it not in the partner repo?
[16:30] <qin_> Quetza: Whatever you trying to do is not Linux style, publishing package with dependencies is rightway, or script.
[16:30] <exploit> I have Skype and work fine on Ubuntu 14.10
[16:30] <Quetza> I have all the source and am building on a vagrant box. Instead of linking dynamically, I want the libraries all included in the binary so I can copy across a single file
[16:30] <ManDay> exploit, which version should I download?
[16:30] <exploit> wait let me check
[16:30] <ManDay> oh
[16:30] <ManDay> heh, skype just popped up in the software center
[16:30] <ManDay> strange thing
[16:30] <ManDay> while I was chatting here, the software center blinked and skype appeared
[16:31] <qin_> Quetza: oups, still do not get a concept of binary file to do so.
[16:31] <ManDay> Hm, but I get an error no less
[16:31] <Quetza> qin_: I mean a single executable file
[16:31] <ManDay> When I click "install" I get a message that This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[16:31] <tmager> ManDay: just get the one from their website, I've never had much luck with the one on software center
[16:32] <ManDay> tmager, which version would that be then?
[16:32] <exploit> look
[16:32] <exploit> Skype 4.2
[16:32] <ManDay> heh?
[16:32] <ManDay> I mean which download?
[16:32] <exploit> try this code
[16:32] <tmager> ManDay, there's one that's for like ubuntu 10.04 or something I think, that one works fine
[16:32] <exploit>  wget -O skype.deb http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.13-1_i386.deb
[16:32] <exploit> sudo dpkg -i skype.deb
[16:32] <exploit> sudo apt-get -f install;rm skype.deb
[16:33] <ManDay> They offer one for ubuntu 10 and one for ubuntu 12
[16:33] <tmager> ManDay the 12 one then I guess
[16:33] <exploit> What version of Ubuntu you have?
[16:33] <ManDay> aight
[16:33] <ManDay> exploit: 14
[16:33] <ManDay> its the recent live cd
[16:33] <exploit> here the site http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/skype-released-new-version-install-in.html
[16:33] <exploit> try this page
[16:34] <ManDay> that's equivalent to the 12er thing
[16:34] <ManDay> ill try to install it now
[16:35] <ManDay> blargh... wrong architecture i386
[16:35] <exploit> you have 64bit?
[16:35] <ManDay> yeah
[16:35] <ManDay> and i downloaded the one labelled "multiarch"
[16:35] <ManDay> what is that "multi"? sparc?
[16:35] <exploit> ok
[16:35] <exploit> look man
[16:36] <exploit> for install Skype on Ubuntu is really easy
[16:36] <exploit> you can download from your terminal
[16:36] <rahul___> citrix, lmao
[16:36] <Hardcheese> the update manager does not suggest me to update :(
[16:36] <Hardcheese> upgrade*
[16:36] <ManDay> exploit: i just downloaded that very file
[16:36] <exploit> try this
[16:36] <Hardcheese> if I apt-get dist-upgrade gives nothing. I'm on 11.0 and want up
[16:37] <exploit> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install
[16:37] <Beldar> !11.10 | Hardcheese
[16:38] <Hardcheese> !upgrade
[16:38] <Beldar> !eol | Hardcheese
[16:38] <exploit> don't forget your sudo command before the apt-get if you are on Ubuntu
[16:38] <ManDay> I followed the exact steps here http://www.noobslab.com/2014/01/skype-released-new-version-install-in.html
[16:39] <ManDay> What I get is :
[16:39] <ManDay> dpkg: error processing archive skype.deb (--install):  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[16:39] <exploit> ok
[16:39] <exploit> try this
[16:39] <exploit> sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine:i386 gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386 sni-qt:i386
[16:39] <ManDay> i guess i'll just get the i386 liveimage then
[16:39] <ManDay> exploit: huh?
[16:39] <ManDay> what good is that gonna do?
[16:39] <ManDay> ah
[16:39] <exploit> fix the problem with 64bit
[16:39] <ManDay> it's on that page
[16:40] <Beldar> ManDay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  the ubuntu repos version is suggested
[16:40] <exploit> Yeah
[16:40] <Beldar> ManDay, there is no 64 bit iamage of skype
[16:40] <exploit> yes
[16:40] <ManDay> gtk2-engines-murrine
[16:40] <exploit> man go to the end of the page see
[16:40] <ManDay> E: Unable to locate package gtk2-engines-murrine E: Unable to locate package gtk2-engines-pixbuf E: Unable to locate package sni-qt
[16:41] <ManDay> exploit: I already tried the repo version
[16:41] <ManDay> It also gives a wrong arch error
[16:41] <exploit> sudo add-apt-repository"deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lbs_release-sc) partner"
[16:42] <exploit> sudo apt-get update
[16:42] <ManDay> erratum: It gives an error about unment deps
[16:42] <ManDay> exploit: I do read the same page
[16:42] <ManDay> here is the error I get:
[16:42] <ManDay> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:42] <exploit> sudo apt-get install skype && sudo apt-get -f install
[16:42] <ManDay> exploit: no need to quote the commands, i can see them myself
[16:42] <Beldar> ManDay, Did you enable multiarch from the commands in the wiki, and look close to who says what to you.
[16:43] <ManDay> Beldar: ah, ok
[16:44] <Beldar> skype is in the repos, now no need to add a repo
[16:44] <exploit> Yeah
[16:45] <ManDay> Beldar: the instructions from the wiki seem to work, at least it's installing something now
[16:47] <exploit> any new version of Wine
[16:47] <ManDay> it installed successfully, thanks exploit and Beldar
[16:47] <exploit> You welcome
[16:47] <exploit> I am on Skype now my nickname is gundamio
[16:47] <exploit> add me
[16:50] <nisha> hi
[16:50] <Guest1153> hello all!
[16:50] <exploit> hi nisha
[16:51] <Guest1153> I need help installing audio drivers in a presario 2100 in 13.04
[16:51] <Guest1153> i get sound with 14.04
[16:51] <Guest1153> but no wifi
[16:52] <majod> i have system ssd and another 1TB hard drive mounted...id like to be able to install some software from the software center, like games, to to the 1TB drive, for example to /mnt/data/games/..., is it possible?
[16:52] <exploit> did you check your wifi connection
[16:52] <exploit> It possible
[16:53] <daftykins> majod: i doubt many of the games are really that big via the software center?
[16:53] <Beldar> Guest1153, 13.04 will be eol soon 13.10 is already, not the best choice 12.04 or 14.04 would be better. If wifi is the issue, it is likely fixable, or a cheap usb wiki flash.
[16:53] <majod> daftykins, it doesnt matter how big they are
[16:53] <Beldar> wifi*
[16:54] <daftykins> Beldar: sorry to second guess, but pretty sure 13.04 has been gone since January?
[16:54] <Guest1153> thanks Beldar
[16:54] <exploit> check on your terminal ifconfig to see what going on
[16:54] <Guest1153> everything works except the sound grrr
[16:54] <daftykins> majod: what do you believe is the benefit to moving them to the HDD then?
[16:54] <Guest1153> that's the only thing I need
[16:54] <Guest1153> all the other distro have no problem with the sound
[16:55] <Guest1153> but I had a lot of problem with the WiFi
[16:55] <Beldar> !13.04
[16:55] <Guest1153> I bought a dungle and it works but not in 14.04
[16:55] <exploit> maybe your wifi card inside your notebook is not work fine.
[16:55] <Guest1153> ok
[16:55] <majod> daftykins, to install software where i want it to
[16:55] <Beldar> daftykins, No problem, man it seems eol.
[16:56] <Beldar> Guest1153, So 13.04 is actually eol.
[16:56] <PlogFloyd> anyoneobdy know php and can explain this error? http://goo.gl/mzptU5 ?
[16:56] <daftykins> majod: you'd have to mount the path most programs want to install to, to the HDD via a manual path edit
[16:56] <daftykins> majod: i don't think you can override the path packages want to install to
[16:57] <majod> daftykins, well, if i can for example download compressed games and just uncompress them to my hdd and play, id like to be able to do that with games in software center...if its not possible, then ok
[16:57] <Guest1153> I a going to try 13.10 now
[16:57] <Guest1153> thanks!
[16:58] <daftykins> majod: no packages don't work like that. you could try and find said games manually... but you're likely to get issues running them if they're not meant for ubuntu specifically.
[16:58] <Beldar> oh my another eol, oh well.
[16:59] <citrix> hii
[16:59] <daftykins> hello.
[17:02] <exploit> hello
[17:04] <riverloop> hi everyone
[17:04] <rahul___> citrix, jj
[17:04] <riverloop> Can I align desktop icons to right, like OSX?
[17:05] <Ingrid18>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[17:05] <theadmin> uh...
[17:06] <theadmin> Ingrid18: That's offtopic, and spam. This isn't welcome here.
[17:06] <compdoc> I think he knows :)
[17:08] <tessarakt> My upgrade to 14.04 terminated in the middle because of too many configuration errors ...
[17:08] <rantic> Does anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?
[17:08] <tessarakt> and now sudo crashes, so I don't know how to continue :-(
[17:09] <g3ek> hi. somebody uses ubuntu on a phone?
[17:09] <Beldar> tessarakt, If you want help here any errors need a pastebin and context.
[17:09] <daftykins> !touch | g3ek
[17:09] <tessarakt> Beldar: there is no context
[17:09] <tessarakt> I just get a "Speicherzugriffsfehler"
[17:10] <Beldar> tessarakt, Really you gave one or two just no real details that we can use to help.
[17:10] <tessarakt> and the log of the Ubuntu upgrade went away when I pressed x
[17:11] <tessarakt> I know that _normally_ I could just continue by repeated executions of apt-get -f install, apt-get dist-upgrade and dpkg --configure -a
[17:11] <tessarakt> but all these need superuser rights
[17:11] <daftykins> tessarakt: what exactly happens when trying to run e.g. "sudo -i" ?
[17:12] <tessarakt> "Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)"
[17:12] <daftykins> i see
[17:12] <daftykins> tessarakt: truthfully, if you have much data i would backup and clean install 14.04. if you insist on trying to fix it you can reboot and try the recovery boot via GRUB to get a root shell however.
[17:13] <daftykins> *don't have much data
[17:13] <tessarakt> well, I _could_ just copy over the system from my notebook or something like that ...
[17:15] <davidnknight> Anyone know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time?
[17:16] <omar_> So, as I get it, 13.10 is no longer updated?
[17:16] <daftykins> !13.10
[17:16] <davidnknight> !12.04
[17:16] <daftykins> omar_: 9 months, so that makes it july - practically dead yes.
[17:17] <omar_> daftykins, That's too bad.. :\
[17:17] <samppady> I have nasty overscan problem on hdmi i am using intel nuc, is there way fix overscan problem?  pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lp1s61md72ihbb/20140516_200917.jpg
[17:17] <davidnknight> !14.04
[17:17] <daftykins> omar_: what's up exactly?
[17:18] <daftykins> davidnknight: if you want to go nuts with the bot please query it
[17:18] <daftykins> (private message)
[17:18] <davidnknight> OK. Sorry.
[17:19] <omar_> daftykins, I am thinking of downgrading to 13.10 in order to be able to use the "hostapd" application again, which is totally broken in 14.04.
[17:19] <davidnknight> So, anyone know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time?
[17:19] <daftykins> omar_: mmm, that would definitely be a lot of effort for just a couple of months.
[17:20] <daftykins> omar_: have you attempted to find out if the issues are bugs and will be fixed anytime soon?
[17:21] <necrogami> Any idea why when i change my network interface to vmbr0 ip addr reports the interface as UNKNOWN
[17:21] <omar_> daftykins, The broken package has been reported on launchpad, yes. And it's even set to "confirmed" and "critical", but I'm not sure how long it's going to take until it's fixed.
[17:22] <omar_> daftykins, In fact, some bugs are simply never fixed. So.. you never know. :\
[17:22] <daftykins> necrogami: maybe... that interface doesn't exist? :)
[17:22] <necrogami> daftykins: it's a vritual bridge
[17:23] <daftykins> necrogami: yeah i got that from the name... but does it actually exist? what's the full story, what are you *really* doing?
[17:23] <necrogami> I'm setting up virtual servers
[17:23] <resinate> where are the ubuntu tutorials?
[17:23] <necrogami> they route though a virtual bridge
[17:24] <tessarakt> what I probably need is a statically linked sudo ...
[17:24] <daftykins> tessarakt: what i suggested would seem easier.
[17:26] <hexhaxtron> What is the deferwq process for?
[17:26] <YokoBR> hi guys, i'm on ubuntu 64 bit and i'm trying to run an app but i get "error while loading shared libraries: libgnome-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[17:26] <ikonia> YokoBR: what app
[17:27] <ikonia> YokoBR: sounds like it depends on an obsolete library thats not installed on your system
[17:27] <YokoBR> tululoo
[17:27] <ikonia> YokoBR: where did you get the app ?
[17:27] <daftykins> necrogami: use 'ifconfig -a' to confirm the interface exists with that name and is up
[17:28] <davidnknight> I need to know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time? I tried `ssh-agent bash` but it resets after each terminal close.
[17:28] <ikonia> davidnknight: use gnome-keyring to hold your keys
[17:28] <ikonia> davidnknight: or something along those lines
[17:29] <YokoBR> ikonia, from their website. Seems it's because i have the 64bit version of that lib
[17:29] <YokoBR> and i need the 32bit version
[17:29] <ikonia> YokoBR: you actually have the 64bit version, I'm susprised that's installed either
[17:31] <YokoBR> ikonia, yep, but how can i have the 32bit package?
[17:31] <ikonia> YokoBR: I don't know if the 32bit library is available as a compatability library
[17:32] <ikonia> I wouldn't advies installing the 32bit library from the 32bit repos to create a conflict
[17:32] <davidnknight> ikonia: thanks, I'll try that now.
[17:32] <YokoBR> omg.. so there's no way to run it
[17:32] <ikonia> YokoBR: get the 64bit version of the binary ?
[17:32] <ikonia> YokoBR: rebuild it yourself ?
[17:33] <ikonia> YokoBR: see if anyone has it packaged for 64bit
[17:33] <ikonia> use a 32bit OS
[17:33] <ikonia> many ways
[17:33] <ikonia> don't know how realistic they are though
[17:33] <Israphel2> Can I have teamviewer 8 and 9 on Trusty?
[17:33] <daftykins> Israphel2: sure, download their 32-bit .deb
[17:34] <Israphel2> daftykins: I tried but 9 replaces 8
[17:34] <Israphel2> I need both
[17:34] <daftykins> why...
[17:34] <Israphel2> cause 9 doesn't work with other people using 8
[17:34] <daftykins> get them to update
[17:34] <Israphel2> and viceversa
[17:34] <dino82> I hate teamviewer for that reason
[17:34] <Israphel2> I wish I can
[17:35] <Israphel2> but customers are always right
[17:35] <Israphel2> I was trying the tar.gz version
[17:35] <Israphel2> but I couldn't even run the checklib
[17:35] <daftykins> ugh
[17:37] <riqdiiz> !Ubuntu for phones
[17:37] <riqdiiz> ok
[17:37] <daftykins> riqdiiz: #ubuntu-touch
[17:38] <riqdiiz> k daft thanks.
[17:38] <Guest54470> How to find user identity with uidNumber? id -a 5555 does not output anything. but when i do id -a username it shows the informations. Any help please
[17:39] <ikonia> Guest54470: where are your users held
[17:40] <Israphel2> looks like it works in ~ but not in /opt
[17:41] <Guest54470> There are many servers e.g. qa01,qa02...... but i have logged in a specific server, and when i do cat /etc/passwd it does not show all the users. I just wanna mke sure that specific uidnumber is used by the specific user

[17:42] <ikonia> Guest54470: so what are you authing against, ldap, nis, ?
 ldap
[17:43] <ciaobelli> ciao
[17:43] <ciaobelli> !lista
 earlier two user have the same Uidnumber so there was a conflict between the users. so i gave one user new uidnumber but i just wanna make sure it conflicts with another users
[17:44] <ikonia> Guest54470: so what are you authing against, ldap, nis, ?
 ldap servers
[17:44] <ikonia> Guest54470: so, getent should work, or ldapsearch should too
 I have assigned one user randomly uidnumber......how can I make sure that is not use by another users?
[17:46] <ikonia> Guest54470: I just said, getent, or ldapsearch
[17:46] <davidnknight> ikonia: I don't think Gnome keyring will work for my use case. It requires a master password to use stored credentials right?
[17:46] <genii> Guest54470: grep uidnumber /etc/group
[17:47] <ikonia> davidnknight: it just requies your key passwor
[17:47] <ikonia> genii: won't work, he's using ldap
[17:47] <genii> ikonia: Aaah, OK
[17:47] <davidnknight> And there's no future password to unlock the use of stored passwords?
[17:47] <ikonia> davidnknight: no, just the key
[17:47] <ikonia> davidnknight: eg: it stores the key you want
[17:47] <davidnknight> Do you know if this will work with ansible?
[17:48] <davidnknight> Basically, ansible is unable to clone a private repo because it requires a passphrase for the ssh key, which ansible doesn't prompt for and instead just hangs.
[17:48] <ikonia> davidnknight: as an odd twist, someone asked almost this exact question around 4 days ago, and I've never done it, but research suggests it "should"
 <genni> thanks
[17:48] <ainx> anyone know best game morpg for linux?
[17:49] <daftykins> ainx: that is not an appropriate question for here
[17:49] <omar_> So, basically... Neither Ubuntu supports infrastructure out-of-the-box, not Andriod supports ad-hoc.. How ironic.. :\
[17:49] <ikonia> omar_: ubuntu supports infrastructure just fine
[17:49] <davidnknight> sudo apt-get install libgnome-keyring-dev
[17:49] <samppady> Can someone help, Intel nuc hdmi Tv overscan problem is there easy way to fix it?
[17:49] <davidnknight> This is the right package?
[17:49] <ainx> oh okay, that good daftykins
[17:49] <lluad> Is apt-cacher-ng still state of the art for caching debs?
[17:49] <ikonia> davidnknight: thats the development package
[17:49] <omar_> ikonia, Really? Could you please help configure it then?
[17:50] <ikonia> omar_: you should be able to do it thorugh network manager
[17:50] <ikonia> omar_: there are times it won't work if your network card uses certain propritary drivers
[17:50] <omar_> ikonia, hmm. I see.
[17:51] <Praxi> If anyone can help with a udev rule; http://askubuntu.com/questions/466480/trying-to-create-udev-rule-to-mount-removable-drive-exfat-partition
[17:51] <daftykins> i believe there's a slight misuse of terms there, infrastructure means connecting to APs, not hosting an AP
[17:51] <ikonia> right, is that not what he wants ?
[17:53] <omar_> ikonia, Okay. I will try it as soon as I get home, and get back to you later in case I face any issues. Is that okay?
[17:54] <ikonia> omar_: just ask the channel if you have problems
[17:54] <omar_> ikonia, Okay sure. Thanks.
[17:54] <riverloop> Does anybody know how to align the desktop icons to the right automatically as in OS X?
[17:55] <riverloop> Or is this impossible?
[17:55] <ikonia> riverloop: we support ubuntu here, not OS X
[17:55] <omar_> ikonia, Just to make sure we're on the same page here. I am talking about infrastructure hotspot (in case there's any difference).
[17:55] <ikonia> riverloop: try #macosx channel
[17:55] <LinksEz> Hi is there a reason remmina would not use the proper sound drivers or something?
[17:55] <ikonia> omar_: yeah, thats different than what you asked, but I believe network manager should also allow this
[17:56] <riverloop> ikonia: you totally missed my point.
[17:56] <daftykins> ikonia: i believe you misread riverloop
[17:56] <riverloop> I want to align desktop icons to the right, in ubuntu.
[17:56] <Pessimist> riverloop: I don't think so and I don't see the point why would any developer waste time on such funcionality
[17:56] <ikonia> riverloop: oh, as in OS X
[17:56] <ikonia> riverloop: sorry, miss-read
[17:56] <omar_> ikonia, hmm... I see.
[17:57] <riverloop> Pessimist: I prefer right-aligned icons. Just asked to see if there's any way to do that.
[17:58] <omar_> ikonia, The problem is, all how-tos are talking about making an infrastructure hotspot through an app called ap-hotspot, which depends on another app called hostapd, which is broken in 14.04.
[17:58] <Masky> when I started using gnome, some of my non-gnome applications have strange colors (ie: black background). Does anyone have any ideas how I could fix this and return the colors to normal?
[18:05] <Trudko> guys where should I put Android studio, under the /opt?
[18:06] <ikonia> Trudko: anywhere you want
[18:06] <Trudko> ikonia: whats common plae
[18:06] <Trudko> place
[18:07] <ikonia> there is no common place
[18:07] <ikonia> it's up to you
[18:08] <trism> Trudko: I just put it in my home directory, ~/Projects/android/, otherwise when it updates you'll either have to own a directory in /opt or be root
[18:08] <thescorp> Is the problem with multimonitor and SLI still around?
[18:09] <bluezone> i see getting my app onto the ubuntu story will be a big mess :(
[18:09] <EleanorEllis> cd ~
[18:09] <erictr1ck> i installed eclipse from the ubuntu software center but it will not load when clicking on the launcher that was created after the install. i fires up with no issues though when typing eclipse into the terminal.
[18:10] <olikanoli> irc://irc.abjects.net/beast-xdcc
[18:10] <ikonia> olikanoli: please don't spam that stuff
[18:10] <EleanorEllis> I can't move anything to the Trash. I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/288513/cant-move-files-to-the-trash but this didn't work
[18:10] <olikanoli> sorry
[18:10] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: what happens when you try
[18:10] <Ugb3> Hey guys, do you know if there is any incompatibility issue with 14.04 and old Athlon 64 ?
[18:11] <daftykins> Ugb3: shouldn't be
[18:11] <daftykins> Ugb3: something going wrong?
[18:11] <Ugb3> When i try to bot the cd I get stuck with the 5 orange dots.
[18:11] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: Sorry, I accidentally pressed enter before I had finished. However, nothing at all happens. When I ls from ~/.local/share there is no folder called Trash
[18:12] <daftykins> Ugb3: what graphics hardware in there?
[18:12] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: create it ?
[18:13] <olikanoli> #ZTV
[18:14] <Ugb3> daftykins: ah it may be that, an old ati (3550 i think)
[18:14] <daftykins> Ugb3: give this a go...
[18:14] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Ugb3
[18:14] <Ugb3> Thanks guys
[18:14] <Ugb3> gonna try
[18:14] <daftykins> Ugb3: i must leave now, but feel free to address the channel again if it doesn't help
[18:15] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: I tried mkdir Trash and it says File exists
[18:15] <Ugb3> ok thanks daftykins
[18:15] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: ok, so you can see the problem then....
[18:15] <EleanorEllis> except it doesn't show when I ls
[18:15] <erictr1ck> any ideas why the launcher for eclipse doesnt work after installing eclipse from the software center?
[18:16] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: so it's possible corruption
[18:16] <OerHeks> ls -l
[18:16] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: Oh no. I realised I need ls -a as it's a hidden folder. It does show
[18:17] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: there you go then....
[18:18] <OerHeks> try 'll' to see max info
[18:19]  * OerHeks loves lazy shortcuts
[18:19] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: According to Trash's properties, I am the owner and I have permission to create and delete files. However, I still can't move files to the Rubbish bin by deleting them in Nautilus
[18:19] <ced_> y
[18:20] <ced_> hello
[18:20] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: A few weeks ago I did change my username, so I had to rename my home directory and take ownership of all my files. Maybe that has something to do with it.
[18:20] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: create a file in there, and look at what's in there
[18:20] <erictr1ck> even if i run eclipse by starting it though the terminal, and then "lock to launcher" the launcher still fails to work after eclipse is closed.
[18:23] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: PI can create an empty file in ~/.local/share/Trash
[18:23] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: And I can make changes to it
[18:23] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: ok, so that's a pretty reasonable start
[18:23] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: Should I maybe try deleting and recreating Trash?
[18:24] <Mithran> how to connect my iphone to pc
[18:24] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: don't see a huge difference in doing that, but possible
[18:24] <ikonia> Mithran: iphone/linux are not a stable pairing
[18:24] <ikonia> Mithran: support/compatability is a moving target
[18:25] <MeisMini> hey i got a question about ubuntu 14.04
[18:25] <killer> Hey , why create launcher or startup applications can't find the relative files that my application might need
[18:25] <w0lfsta> Hi.. Im trying to do a minimal install with E18 for desktop..  I installed no packages from mini.iso then after i installed xorg.. now whats the best way to get e18 running on ubuntu?  i found these instructions but they don't seem to work.....  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vase/ppa   sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[18:25] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: I don't understand why but it seems to have worked
[18:25] <Mithran> ikonia: ?
[18:26] <ikonia> Mithran: what part of what I said is nt clear
[18:26] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: cool
[18:26] <Mithran>  ikonia: iphone/linux are not a stable pairing
[18:26] <ikonia> Mithran: they do not work together
[18:27] <Mithran> ikonia: then how do i upgrade my iphone?
[18:27] <ikonia> Mithran: use a supported OS, windows or mac os x
[18:27] <EleanorEllis> Mithran: You might have to boot into windows. You might be able to do it from a virtual machine if your machine doesnt dual boot
[18:27] <Mithran> Please help me there is no windows or mac installed i am always running in ubuntu
[18:27] <MeisMini> does it happen alot that ubuntu 14.04 doesnt get a coursor
[18:28] <ikonia> Mithran: then you are out of luck - it is not a stable device to use
[18:28] <Mithran> ohhhhhhh god.........
[18:31] <hexhaxtron> What is the deferwq process for?
[18:31] <Raydiation> ubuntu uses www-data as apache2 user and group right?
[18:32] <ikonia> yes
[18:32] <ikonia> Raydiation: you can check this in the site config
[18:33] <Raydiation> ty
[18:51] <yohy> Can i get some help with some c code?
[18:52] <ikonia> yohy: try ##c channel
[18:52] <yohy> okay
[18:53] <fradeb> hallo everybody
[18:54] <fradeb> i need support please
[18:54] <thescorp> Hm, for some reason my sound source keeps changing away from the xonar one when I reboot. *goes googling*
[18:55] <Praxi> So I have been struggling to auto mount an external non usb drive.  Been working on this for days.  Maybe I just need to start over.  When a drive with UUID 5359-818E is HOT inserted into the computer, I want to mount it at /media/offsite  What should I be looking at?
[18:56] <ikonia> Praxi: extenal non-usb ?
[18:57] <ikonia> Praxi: how have you got an external non-usb disk ?
[18:57] <Praxi> sorry hot plugging a dock
[18:57] <Praxi> so not really external :)
[18:57] <ikonia> Praxi: what is the interface connecting the drive to the computer
[18:57] <Praxi> sata
[18:58] <ikonia> Praxi: sata is not hotplug on most home motherboards
[18:58] <fradeb> my pc says:
[18:58] <Praxi> the drive is detected fine, I can run commands by hand, mount it, etc.
[18:58] <Praxi> the sata spec itself is hotplug
[18:58] <ikonia> Praxi: what sata spec ?
[18:58] <Trudko> Guys I have installed touchpad indincator but when I run it nothing happens , where do I find some error message?
[18:58] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[18:58] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[18:59] <fradeb> what can i do?
[18:59] <Trudko> or how else could I disable touchpad while typing?
[18:59] <Praxi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#Hotplug ikonia
[18:59] <Trudko> should I just run syndaemon -i 0.02 -d & ?
[18:59] <ikonia> Praxi: that is not on all boards/chipset
[19:00] <Praxi> it doesn't matter for my conversation, my board supports it, as do all boards I own
[19:00] <fradeb> excuse me
[19:00] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: it does matter
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: how do you know your board supports sata hot plug ?
[19:00] <Praxi> because the drive works
[19:00] <Praxi> I can mount it
[19:00] <KGM70> I have an esata to sata outboard HDD , and it was found at boot only after connecting it while the pc was off , Praxi
[19:00] <Praxi> I can read it, I can write it
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: tht isn't hot plug
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: but I can see how it's confusing
[19:01] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[19:01] <fradeb> what can i do?
[19:01] <ikonia> !patience | fradeb
[19:01] <fradeb> i'm sorry, ikonia
[19:01] <ikonia> fradeb: its fine
[19:01] <fradeb> but i've looked on all the web
[19:02] <Beldar> fradeb, We see you, that is not really enough info, what got you to this situation, what is on the HD?
[19:02] <Praxi> really not sure what your getting at ikonia the definition of hotplugging from wikipedia says : while hot plugging describes the addition of components that would expand the system without significant interruption to the operation of the system.  This is what I'm doing, adding a hard drive without rebooting.  I just want some stuff to happen automatically.  Should I phrase my question differently so were not stuck on this
[19:02] <Praxi>  hot plugging issue?
[19:02] <fradeb> beldar, you means the SO?
[19:03] <ikonia> Praxi: hot plugging is pretty important, as it's the event that tells the OS that "there is a hardware change" that's the key
[19:03] <Beldar> !bootinfo | fradeb do this post a url of in pastebin
[19:03] <ikonia> Praxi: that's why I'm trying to get clarification on your actual hot plug support capabilities
[19:04] <fradeb> beldar, i can't use the pc
[19:04] <Beldar> fradeb, Use a live environment since you have no boot, there is no picture it is a script.
[19:04] <Beldar> ah pc, my missread
[19:04] <fradeb> beldar, there's a big problem
[19:05] <Beldar> fradeb, Which is?
[19:05] <fradeb> beldar, it's an old pc. USB, cd boots doesn't work
[19:05] <fradeb> beldar, i use plop for install bodhy
[19:05] <ikonia> fradeb: then how did you install it
[19:05] <fradeb> beldar, i use plop for install bodhy
[19:05] <ikonia> for install bodhy ?
[19:05] <Beldar> !bodhi
[19:06] <ikonia> I'm really sorry, I don't understand
[19:06] <Praxi> udev does see the drive when its inserted, if I am monitoring udev when its inserted, I see all the normal rules kicked off.  What else can I provide to answer your question ikonia ?
[19:06] <fradeb> ikonia, the pc was windows xp. i installed bodhy with plop.
[19:06] <Beldar> fradeb, bodhi linux?
[19:06] <ikonia> Praxi: not an unclear answer
[19:07] <ikonia> Praxi: so do you see a dbus/hal event trigger ?
[19:07] <fradeb> beldar, yes. bodhi linux. I hate it!
[19:07] <string> Hi
[19:08] <Beldar> fradeb, Not supported here is all. I doubt much more than lubuntu will run on that computer if that old, just a guess however.
[19:08] <string> i have some problem while autodesk maya
[19:08] <string> error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:08] <fradeb> beldar, in fact i would like to install xubuntu, but now the pc is ko!
[19:09] <ikonia> fradeb: you can't install xubuntu without a DVD rom or USB boot capabilities
[19:09] <Beldar> fradeb, seems to be I would get a usb cd reader, will that work?
[19:09] <Beldar> cd/dvd*
[19:09] <fradeb> i don't know
[19:09] <fradeb> but i've installed bodhy!
[19:09] <Praxi> let me check, this is all new to me :)
[19:09] <ikonia> fradeb: what do you want from this channel ?
[19:10] <Beldar> fradeb, If everything is in place you can manually boot grub.
[19:10] <fradeb> ikonia, know the pc is ko. the error is
[19:10] <ikonia> fradeb: I'm not asking you what the error is
[19:10] <Beldar> fradeb, just info for you to take with you, bodhi is not supported here is all.
[19:11] <ikonia> fradeb: what do you wan tthis channel to help you with ?
[19:11] <Praxi> ikonia, do I check for that in udevadm monitor, or somewhere else?
[19:11] <fradeb> a string, for use my pc!
[19:11] <fradeb> there's a grub rescue console
[19:11] <ikonia> Praxi: should see the event in the syslog
[19:11] <ikonia> fradeb: we don't support bodhi
[19:11] <ikonia> fradeb: this channel will not help you with that
[19:12] <fradeb> ikonia, where i have to go?
[19:12] <ikonia> fradeb: bodhi support resources
[19:12] <dedonawryval> I know that I can use gsettings to disable remote searches and shopping, but that's on a user-by-user basis, and I have a lot of users.  Is there a way to disable these at the system level?
[19:13] <ikonia> dedonawryval: remove the packages ?
[19:13] <fradeb> ikonia, anyway grub works on each ubuntu
[19:13] <ikonia> fradeb: you're not using ubuntu
[19:13] <string> error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:13] <ikonia> fradeb: hence why thi channel doesn't support you
[19:13] <ikonia> string: you're missing a library
[19:13] <ring3> hi
[19:13] <dedonawryval> Sorry, I forgot to mention that this is 14.04.  In 12.04 I could just remove a package, but it's not so simple in 14.04 apparently.
[19:13] <ring3> i have /var/crash/*.crash   but i need vmcore files :/
[19:13] <ikonia> dedonawryval: should be that simple, what's stopping you
[19:14] <ring3> how to generate vmcore file?
[19:14] <fradeb> ikonia, ubuntu has nothing to do with my question!
[19:14] <string> I'm trying to fix this error but not work
[19:14] <fradeb> ikonia, the problem is grub rescue
[19:14] <ikonia> fradeb - nothing to do with this channel then
[19:14] <ikonia> fradeb: we will not support it in this channel
[19:14] <dedonawryval> For starters, there is no "unity-lens-shopping" package in 14.04.
[19:15] <ikonia> dedonawryval: is there any lens packages ?
[19:15] <ikonia> package names do change
[19:15] <string> from where i can get this library libtiff.so.3
[19:15] <fradeb> ikonia, what doesn't this channel support? i don't understand
[19:15] <ikonia> fradeb: this channel supports ubuntu only - you are not using ubuntu, we do not support you
[19:15] <ikonia> string: libtiff, search for the tiff package in the package manager, it's a graphics library
[19:15] <dedonawryval> There are: unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-friends unity-lens-music unity-lens-photos unity-lens-video
[19:15] <Beldar> fradeb, #bodhilinux or ##grub would be your resources.
[19:15] <fradeb> ikonia, thank you very much.
[19:17] <string> libtiff , i already setup this library but also not work
[19:17] <dedonawryval> None of those sound like they're specific to online search and shopping
[19:18] <samppady> how i can change overscan settings any gui software for it?
[19:18] <ikonia> string: file not found = file not there, or not compatible, eg: 64bit when it wants 32bit
[19:18] <ikonia> dedonawryval: little bit of research seeing what they do...
[19:19] <on3rj> hello
[19:20] <on3rj> j'ai un soucis de paquets : E:Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/fr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-i386_Packages (1), E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[19:20] <on3rj> quelqu'un sait ce que je peux/dois faire ?
[19:20] <dedonawryval> Ooh!  I see that there are a whole bunch of unity-scope-* packages...
[19:20] <on3rj> yes indeed
[19:21] <on3rj> any workaround / solution ?
[19:21] <trism> dedonawryval: I'm pretty sure the ones you want to disable are in the default packages, so can't really uninstall them, but: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['music-soundcloud.scope', 'more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope']"
[19:21] <string> iKonia , ia have ubuntu 14.4 64bit and maya 2015 , im try to setup this library from terminal please tel me how i can get
[19:21] <trism> dedonawryval: seemed to get most of them when I tried during testing...but I usually just disable the online results so not extensively tested
[19:22] <ikonia> string: read what I told you
[19:23] <dedonawryval> Thanks, but that's on a user-by-user basis, and I have a lot of users.  I was hoping for a way to disable it at the system level.
[19:23] <trism> dedonawryval: you can set gsettings at the system level with override files
[19:23] <ikonia> trism: how does that work ?
[19:23] <dedonawryval> How do I do that?
[19:24] <dw1> string: the package libtiff5 will install libtiff.so.5 not .3 so you might try symlinking /usr/lib/i386/libtiff.so.5 or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5 to libtiff.so.3 in the same folder, and if that doesnt work compiling/installing libtiff.so.3 without the package manager
[19:25] <trism> dedonawryval: look at the /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override (create your own and then run glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/)
[19:26] <dedonawryval> trism: That is awesome!  I'm going to give it a try right now!
[19:26] <trism> ikonia: disabling the scopes or overrides?
[19:26] <ikonia> trism: just read what you posted, excellent suggestion
[19:28] <dw1> string: e.g. sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.3
[19:30] <string> dw1 , thanks this work now but some library also not work
[19:30] <dw1> string: what do you mean
[19:31] <string> error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.10
[19:32] <dw1> string: sudo apt-get install libssl1.0.0
[19:32] <dw1> string: err wait
[19:32] <dw1> string: yes that
[19:33] <string> libssl.so.10: cannot open shared object file
[19:33] <string> not work
[19:33] <ikonia> think about it
[19:33] <ikonia> it's the same problem, just a different library
[19:33] <ikonia> this time SSL
[19:34] <dw1> string: then sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.10
[19:34] <dw1> differnet folders this time :/
[19:35] <dw1> !cookie | dw1
[19:39] <Capprentice> How do I create app groups in Gnome Shell 3.12 ?
[19:39] <gotpunk> has there been any fix to ubuntu on mac, so that i may have two fingers on my touchpad and still move my pointer?
[19:39] <gotpunk> running 14.04
[19:42] <oneof3> hi. during bootup my system said something like "cant write pipe broken" then booted okay and the OS works. what was that all about?
[19:42] <aarobc> I wonder if ubuntu 14.04 has some brokenness...
[19:43] <Beldar> Capprentice, 3.12 is a ppa version, not technically supported. However there is #gnome
[19:43] <Beldar> supported here*
[19:43] <aarobc> I was testing some stuff for a server, this fails only in ubuntu. other debian based distros handle it just fine: "ffmpeg-i song.m4a -ab 128k -v 0 -f mp3 - | vlc -"
[19:44] <qin_> oneof3: you could grep syslog for "pipe broken" to see if it is usual thing.
[19:45] <oneof3> trying that ty qin_
[19:45] <qin_> gotpunk: launchpad has all boult bugs section
[19:46] <qin_> *about
[19:50] <Jena> is there any way to connect my iphone with ubuntu 14.04
[19:52] <qin_> aarobc: missing space?
[19:52] <fxruby> welcome :D
[19:53] <aarobc> qin_: does that command work for you with an m4a file?
[19:54] <Es0teric> anybody here?
[19:54] <sionronin> hello everyone!
[19:54] <Es0teric> and does anybody know about httpd vhosts?
[19:55] <Es0teric> i get an error saying that my site doesnt exist when i do a2enmod
[19:55] <dw1> but a2enmod is for modules, not sites. :)
[19:55] <sionronin> you want a2ensite
[19:56] <dw1> Es0teric: if the site is in example.com.conf then a2ensite example.com
[19:57] <Es0teric> dw1 it is not... it is just example.com
[19:57] <Es0teric> should i make it example.com.conf?
[19:57] <dw1> probably
[19:57] <Pici> Es0teric: it needs to be a .conf file in newer versions of apache.
[19:59] <Es0teric> dw1 right now i have a serious issue
[19:59] <Es0teric> i configured the vhosts correctly and it is not allowing my subdomain to go to the directory i told it to
[20:00] <dw1> Es0teric: could be .conf or even dns related
[20:01] <dw1> Es0teric: might be better suited for #httpd since its not ubuntu-specific
[20:01] <Pici> Es0teric: are you sure that www-data has enough privleges to access that directory?
[20:02] <Es0teric> Pici should i just make it chown me:www-data
[20:02] <Es0teric> the entire directory?
[20:02] <ikonia> changing permissions blindly is a bad idea
[20:03] <ikonia> you need to understand permissions before making changes
[20:03] <Pici> Es0teric: You should assign permissions correctly.  Just setting the group to www-data might not be enough.
[20:06] <Mantissa> Has anyone had two cards working in crossfire under Linux? How did ye fare?
[20:06] <Es0teric> Pici
[20:06] <Es0teric> it is not
[20:06] <Es0teric> displaying the page
[20:06] <ikonia> Es0teric: you've already said that
[20:06] <qin_> aarobc: I did not test that command, just "ffmpeg-i" looks fooish
[20:06] <ikonia> Es0teric: however the error in not displaying the page is important
[20:06] <ikonia> Es0teric: as is the apache access and err logs
[20:07] <ikonia> as are the permissions on the directory containing your document root
[20:08] <Es0teric> this shit
[20:08] <Ugb3> Wow should i expect a fluid unity with a old AMD 3500+ and an AMD 4550 ?
[20:08] <Es0teric> is pissing me off... i know i set the vhosts correctly
[20:08] <ikonia> Es0teric: there is no need for bad language
[20:08] <Es0teric> and the damn page is not displaying from the subdomain
[20:08] <ikonia> Es0teric: please don't use it, it is not required and it's not welcome
[20:08] <ikonia> Es0teric: repeating it doesn't work doesn't help anyone
[20:08] <Es0teric> ikonia you have to understand this is due in about... 15 mins
[20:09] <Es0teric> and this is the ONLY problem i am having
[20:09] <ikonia> Es0teric: then perhaps you should have an idea what you are doing by now
[20:09] <Es0teric> ikonia i do have an idea of what i am doing
[20:09] <Es0teric> have a vhost directive
[20:09] <Es0teric> linked to a subdomain
[20:09] <SamPoop> fight fight fight
[20:09] <Es0teric> that is not RENDERING
[20:09] <Es0teric> THE PAGE
[20:09] <ikonia> Es0teric: clearly not as you don't know why it's not working, you don't know how to debug it and you're not giving any of the information you are being asked for
[20:09] <ikonia> Es0teric: so what's the actual error
[20:10] <ikonia> Es0teric: what's the actual error
[20:10] <Pici> Es0teric: Okay? And we're not psychic.  We can't magically see why it isn't doing that without you providing the info that ikonia asked for.
[20:10] <Es0teric>  * The apache2 configtest failed. Not doing anything. Output of config test was: (2)No such file or directory: AH02291: Cannot access directory '/var/log/apache/' for error log of vhost defined at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/dwp.mysite.com.conf:1 AH00014: Configuration check failed Action 'configtest' failed.
[20:11] <ikonia> Es0teric: ok, so there are many errors there
[20:11] <ikonia> Es0teric: the log file is missing
[20:11] <Es0teric> ikonia i went to /var/log/apache2
[20:11] <ikonia> Es0teric: it's not looking in /var/log/apace2
[20:11] <ikonia> its looking in /var/log/apache
[20:11] <ikonia> Cannot access directory '/var/log/apache/'
[20:11] <Es0teric> ikonia so what permissions should i set that directory to?
[20:12] <Es0teric> 775?
[20:12] <ikonia> Es0teric: )No such file or directory
[20:12] <ikonia> Es0teric: "no such file" not "no permissions"
[20:12] <Es0teric> the directory exists
[20:12] <Es0teric> i just checked it
[20:12] <LinuxGuruz> 777
[20:12] <Es0teric> LinuxGuruz i am not stupid
[20:12] <ikonia> LinuxGuruz: please do'nt suggest that sort of thing
[20:12] <ikonia> Es0teric: ok, so what's the permissions on that directory
[20:13] <Es0teric> ikonia -> drwxr-x---
[20:13] <ikonia> Es0teric: owner/grou p?
[20:13] <ikonia> owner / group
[20:13] <Es0teric> ikonia adm/root
[20:13] <CarlFK> Es0teric: please post this:juser@piggy:~$ ls -ld /var/log/apache*
[20:13] <CarlFK> drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 May 12 06:25 /var/log/apache2
[20:13] <ikonia> Es0teric: ok, so that's neer going to work then
[20:13] <SamPoop> im thinking of getting a chromebook. how convinient is a linux setup on the 200 dollar thing?
[20:14] <ikonia> CarlFK: thank you, excellent way to be sure
[20:15] <Es0teric> CarlFK, ikonia  drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 May 11 07:35 /var/log/apache2
[20:15] <ikonia> Es0teric: that is apcache2
[20:15] <ikonia> Es0teric: not apache
[20:15] <jmadero> hi all - if anyone is around who has considered contributing to a FLOSS project - we're looking for new (nonprogramming) volunteers to help us out over at libreoffice (#libreoffice-qa)
[20:15] <ikonia> I asked for the permissions on /var/log apache
[20:15] <ikonia> Es0teric: I've said the directory it's looking at is /var/log/apache
[20:15] <jmadero> apologies to moderators if I broke some rule ;)
[20:15] <ikonia> jmadero: please don't spam
[20:15] <jmadero> ikonia: I know - just hard to reach out to the community - one message, will not again
[20:16] <ikonia> jmadero: thanks
[20:16] <jmadero> I'm sure you know how it is ;)
[20:16] <ikonia> jmadero: yeah, doesn't really make it ok
[20:16] <jmadero> +1 understood
[20:16] <ikonia> jmadero: thanks
[20:16] <jmadero> sure thing
[20:16] <Ugb3> Are the rinimum requirement on the website still up to date ?
[20:16] <Es0teric> ikonia ok so how do i get the error log?
[20:16] <ikonia> Es0teric: I did'nt ask for the error log
[20:16] <ikonia> Es0teric: I asked for the permissions on /var/log/apache
[20:16] <Es0teric> ikonia i know you didnt but i fixed it and it passed
[20:16] <Es0teric> so i am looking to view it
[20:17] <Es0teric> how do i view it
[20:17] <ikonia> this is a waste of time
[20:17] <CarlFK> Es0teric:  I would fix the conf file to use apache2
[20:17] <Es0teric> CarlFK i just did
[20:17] <ikonia> sorry, I can't help you - as you are just changing things, not giving the info I asked for and not giving accurate information
[20:17] <Ugb3> I mean, are the minimum requirement to run ubuntu written on the ubuntu website, still accurate ?
[20:17] <Es0teric> ikonia there is no "apache" folder
[20:17] <Es0teric> i changed it to apache2 because that is the name of the folder
[20:17] <Es0teric> clearly it was a typo, moving on from that how do i view the error log
[20:17] <ikonia> Es0teric: yes, you said there was an apache folder - you are not giving accurate information/checking your information
[20:18] <CarlFK> Es0teric:  * The apache2 configtest failed. - do that again, post message.
[20:18] <qin_> Ugb3: Roughly?
[20:19] <Es0teric> CarlFK, ikonia  this is what i typed service apache2 reload
[20:19] <Es0teric>  * Reloading web server apache2                                                                                                                                       *
[20:19] <Es0teric> so it passed
[20:19] <Es0teric> again, moving on from that i need to view the error log, how do i view it
[20:19] <LinuxGuruz> wierd question
[20:20] <guntbert> Es0teric: less /var/log/apache2/error.log
[20:20] <Ugb3> qin_: Really ? So unity should be fluid/usable with an AMD 3500+ and an ATI 4550 (all above the minimum)
[20:20] <qin_> Ugb3: Where did you find minimum?
[20:20] <Ugb3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:21] <john1_> hi
[20:21] <CarlFK> qin_: likely it will depend on what you are expecting, which will depend on what other systems you use.
[20:21] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: If those cards have decent drivers available, yes.
[20:21] <Es0teric> this is what the error log says [Fri May 16 19:59:09.334897 2014] [core:notice] [pid 21625] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[20:21] <qin_> Ugb3: That is community page. And includes Xubntu
[20:22] <Ugb3> My pc was wonderfully fluid with gnome 3, so i guess it should be too.
[20:22] <Ugb3> qin_: Ah my bad, do you know where i could find the minimum requirement for ubuntu unity ?
[20:22] <guntbert> Es0teric: why are you telling us this?
[20:22] <ikonia> Ugb3: is it not listed on the website ?
[20:22] <Es0teric> guntbert because...
[20:22] <Es0teric> nvm
[20:23] <Ugb3> ikonia: maybe i'm not doing it right but i can't seem to find it.
[20:23] <ikonia> Ugb3: always used to be there
[20:24] <Ugb3> ikonia: on the main ubuntu website ?
[20:24] <ikonia> which pretty much sums it up
[20:24] <ikonia> Ugb3: just looking myself, everything I see is shockingly out of date,
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: The smoothness of Unity will usually depend much more on the quality of the drivers than the capabilities of the hardware.
[20:25] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Mhh my card worked pretty smooth on Fedora and Gnome3
[20:25] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: With hardware acceleration, so i guess it should also works well in ubuntu.
[20:26] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Most likely, yes.
[20:26] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Ok, i'm currently finishing the instalation, the live cd was slow as a slideshow but i hope i will figure out.
[20:28] <qin_> Ugb3: Well, Ubuntu-gnome is pretty neat, if it helps.
[20:29] <Ugb3> qin_: thanks for the info.
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Were you using proprietary drivers in Fedora?
[20:30] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Nope the nouveau driver.
[20:30] <Ugb3> Okay so i booted into ubuntu, it only use a part of the screen, i can't change the resolution and it is as slow as vista on a pentium II, i guess something is wrong.
[20:30] <zykotick9> Ugb3: nouveau is a nvidia only driver?  didn't you say you have ATI?
[20:32] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Really ? er so i guess i was using the stock one, anyway proprietary drivers has been droped for my card afaik
[20:33] <zykotick9> Ugb3: you can "/msg ubottu nouveau" for confirmation on nvidia-only.  IMO even the open ATI/AMD drivers are proprietary, as they require non-free firmware for 3D... but that's a differernt matter.  anyways, best of luck.
[20:35] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Ok, I'm not really that savvy, but I can't confirm my card worked well with acceleration on fedora.
[20:37] <Jay_> Hello, after installing ubuntu and going to boot it i get a Operating system not find
[20:37] <Jay_> found
[20:38] <aum> hi - for some strange reason, my .bashrc no longer runs when I start up a terminal, any ideas?
[20:38] <aum> change that - I meant my ~/.profile no longer runs
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Jay_: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Jay_
[20:39] <Guest41880>  How can I make a dual-boot on my pc ?(I have a pre-installed windows 8.1 and I want to make it for Ubuntu 14.04.)
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Guest41880: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[20:47] <bchynds> anyone use irssi or weechat and have a problem with the client randomly shaking the text in the term window?
[20:48] <bluezone> Why isn't ffmpeg in apt-get?
[20:49] <bchynds> bluezone: there's a ppa for it
[20:49] <ikonia> bchynds: because it's dead
[20:49] <ikonia> oops
[20:49] <ikonia> bluezone: because it's dead
[20:49] <danlovesproofs> I lost SSH connectivity to a 12.04 instance. I can still ping it, and when I ssh -v I do get the following:
[20:49] <danlovesproofs> debug1: Connecting to node-name [ip.ad.dr.ess] port 22.
[20:49] <danlovesproofs> debug1: Connection established.
[20:50] <zykotick9> ikonia: i don't think that's true... avconv is a fork of ffmpeg, but i believe ffmpeg is still alive and well.
[20:50] <danlovesproofs> What might cause this, and how can I go about fixing it?
[20:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: you even get a warning message why you try to run it
[20:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: but you are of course factually correct
[20:50] <bluezone> ikonia, at this point whatever, i'd like to try it to see if it works because nothing else is working for me, unless you have a better solution i can get from the repos
[20:50] <zykotick9> ikonia: yes, i've seen the warning... but experience tells me, ffmpeg is still alive.
[20:51] <ikonia> zykotick9: %100 factually correct,
[20:51] <ikonia> bluezone: nothing else works ?? I've not even seen you ask about something that's broken
[20:52] <oosumisu> any one want to help me get frostwire installed in lubuntu?
[20:52] <zykotick9> bluezone: install libav-tools
[20:52] <oosumisu> hi
[20:53] <oosumisu> does anyone want to help me install frostwire in lubuntu?
[20:53] <ikonia> !patience oosumisu
[20:53] <ikonia> !patience| oosumisu
[20:54] <Ugb3> Ok guys, so ubuntu seems to boot with nomodesetting, why is that ?
[20:54] <oosumisu> i didnt see it so i typed it again sorry
[20:54] <Katniss> hi
[20:55] <bluezone> well i'm currently doing my typical strategy of installing everything on the face of the earth and hoping 1 thing works ^_^
[20:55] <zykotick9> Ugb3: 'cause you have ati or nvidia hardware, most likely...
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Jay_: Are you still there?
[20:58] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Maybe I'm oldschool, but years ago nomodeset meant : No hardware acceleration
[20:58] <zykotick9> Ugb3: if you install proprietary driver, you'll have 3d in Xorg (if that's what you are worried about)
[20:59] <Ugb3> zykotick9: There is no proprietray drivers anymore for my card :/
[20:59] <zykotick9> Ugb3: you're console resolution will be crappy however (but that is fixable, though probably NOT worth the effort)
[20:59] <jost> Player: thanks for your help earlier today (stalled updates)
[20:59] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: nomodeset means "no kernel mode setting". KMS is required by pretty much all of the open source drivers, and incompatible with pretty much all of the proprietary drivers.
[20:59] <zykotick9> Ugb3: install the "open" ATI driver and firmware, should still work.
[20:59] <Player> jost, No problem!  I was wondering what happened there, haha.
[20:59] <bluezone> zykotick9, i have that installed btw, what else do i need to do?
[21:00] <FischliDEV> Hi guys
[21:00] <zykotick9> bluezone: do you know have an ffmpeg command then?
[21:00] <jost> Player: turned out it was a non-RFC conforming webserver serving the PPA
[21:00] <jost> didn't play well with HTTP 1.1
[21:00] <zykotick9> bluezone: if not, try avconv it's basically the same syntax as ffmpeg
[21:01] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Ok thanks for the info, but.. that's a vanilla install so it shouldn't be set !?
[21:02] <Ugb3> zykotick9: And mhh how should i do that ?
[21:02] <Player> jost, What'd you do to resolve it?
[21:02] <maseck> Hi, the command "pactl load-module module-loopback" doesn't give me low enough latency for what I'm doing. Any suggestions?
[21:02] <bluezone> zykotick9, Unknown input format: 'x11grab' , i'm currently using this script: http://bpaste.net/show/t5dznao0eN6n4tXxes6J/
[21:02] <zykotick9> Ugb3: _i_ have no idea, i don't touch ATI/AMD graphics with a 30 foot pole.  best of luck.
[21:03] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Ok, thank you anyway.
[21:04] <bluezone> zykotick9, i also get some preset problems i guess ill have to try aaconv
[21:04] <zykotick9> bluezone: sorry, don't know - you're trying to screen capture i take it.  i have no suggestions, sorry.
[21:04] <bluezone> ok
[21:04] <jost> Player: there is an apt-option to do handle that: Acquire::http:Pipeline-Depth. It has to be set to "0".
[21:04] <Player> Ugb3, Does hardware acceleration work when you log in?  What driver are you using?  Mesa, open source, or proprietary?
[21:04] <jost> And to be found
[21:04] <Player> jost, Interesting, the more you know.  Glad I could help and thanks for the info!
[21:04] <Ugb3> Player: Nope, and i don't know the stock one.
[21:05] <Ugb3> Player: I juste installed it, vanilla 14.04
[21:05] <Player> Ugb3, What version of Ubuntu?
[21:05] <v1ckyz>  --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- ---
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[21:05] <v1ckyz> (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo
[21:05] <v1ckyz> is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com
[21:05] <v1ckyz> Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull ---- --- FUCK YOU => LLoyds is (SCAMMER) and Yahoo is => enf0rced@yahoo.com Becarfull --
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[21:05] <unopaste> v1ckyz you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:05] <Player> Ugb3, Ah, ok.  It would be the xorg radeon driver IIRC.  Let me look it up real quick.
[21:06] <Ugb3> Ok thanks you.
[21:07] <Player> Ugb3, Correction, it's RadeonDriver and it comes on the Ubuntu CD.  It gets installed initially if it sees that you have a Radeon card, just to make sure you didn't install any additional drivers with jockey?
[21:07] <Player> Ugb3, and/or are you stuck at commandline/recovery mode?
[21:08] <Ugb3> Player: Nope, just ubuntu is slow as a slideshow and using only 9/10 of the screen, I don't know whats is jokey but i'm pretty sure I haven't installed anything.
[21:10] <Player> Ugb3, Jockey is a GUI that is supposed to pop up if it detects hardware that has official proprietary drivers.  It sounds like it's not utilizing the built-in Radeon driver for some reason (what graphics card do you have), I have a few things you could try to make sure it's not something else and if it's not I'll help you install fglrx.
[21:11] <Ugb3> Player: Thank you, nothing poped up and i have a "[AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550]"
[21:11] <Ugb3> Player: It's written 4550 on the card.
[21:11] <Player> Ugb3, That would be why, the 4xxx series is "legacy."
[21:12] <Player> Ugb3, yeah on Windows a lot of times my graphics card gets detected wrong
[21:12] <Ugb3> Player: So ubuntu is incompatible with my computer ?
[21:12] <Player> Ugb3, try running glxgears, with the Radeon 4550 you should get at *least* 1000FPS
[21:12] <Player> Ugb3, It's not a matter of compatibility, it's just what'll work out of the box.  In this instance your graphics hardware isn't going to work out of the box but I'll help you get the proprietary legacy drivers working.
[21:13] <Ugb3> wait a sec, starting the terminal take ages
[21:13] <Player> Ugb3, the only thing that I'm aware of that should be noted is that Source games (i.e. Team Fortress 2 or Half-Life 2) will not run on that card.
[21:13] <Ugb3> Player: Not a problem.
[21:13] <Player> Ugb3, CTRL+ALT+T
[21:14] <Ugb3> i'm installing mesa-utils
[21:14] <Player> Ugb3, yeah, if you do want to play those games you could resort to open-source drivers which from my understanding outperform the official fglrx drivers, but they're unofficial so they're not supported by AMD.
[21:14] <Player> Ugb3, alright, sorry I forgot glxgears came in mesa-utils.
[21:14] <Ugb3> Player: I just want a smooth UI and being able to play videos.
[21:15] <Player> Ugb3, then fglrx is all you'll need.
[21:15] <Ugb3> Player: Between 90 and 97 fps with glxgears.
[21:15] <Player> Ugb3, That's very VERY slow.  What processor?
[21:15] <Player> You should be getting at least a few thousand FPS with that card.
[21:15] <Ugb3> Player: AMD 3500+
[21:16] <Player> Ah, so it's using 100% software rendering.  I believe that's the issue.
[21:16] <Player> So, yes you'll need to install graphics drivers.  1 minute.
[21:16] <Player> Ugb3, is Ubuntu x86 or x86_64?
[21:16] <Ugb3> 64
[21:17] <Ugb3> I'm planing to add more ram if everything works well.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Player: Images for both are available.
[21:17] <Player> Ugb3, Alright, and just to make sure it's a desktop, not a laptop.  Correct?
[21:17] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[21:18] <Ugb3> Player: Correct, old "hand made" desktop.
[21:18] <DrGrov> bekks: Hi there. Remember my server related questions about getting GUI on 14.04?
[21:18] <DrGrov> bekks: I've managed to sort out the RAM issue, got 2 GB of RAM so I can finally run GUI.
[21:19] <Player> Ugb3, fair.  I can link you to the driver download page but from the sounds of it it'll be faster if I give you commands to download thru terminal.
[21:19] <Ugb3> Player: Do it, i'm ssh'ing the computer.
[21:19] <omar_> ikonia, Hi.
[21:20] <Player> Ugb3, I'll send them over PM in a second, they're sort of long since it needs a "referer" argument.
[21:20] <ikonia> omar_: yes ?
[21:20] <Ugb3> Player: You can give my the page if you want.
[21:20] <DrGrov> I might ask this as a general question in order to get some advice, unless bekks is available :)
[21:20] <Ugb3> Player: do the most easy for you.
[21:20] <omar_> ikonia, You told me that I should be able to establish an infrastructure hotspot from Network Manager. But I couldn't really see how. Do you have any idea?
[21:21] <ikonia> omar_: not withouth looking, I dont have ubuntu infront of me
[21:21] <DrGrov> So, I have gotten myself a server where I can install either 13.10 64-bit or 14.04 64-bit but had issues getting a graphical UI because of only having 512 Mb of RAM. Now when that is sorted, how can I easily set up a graphical UI for 14.04 on that server?
[21:21] <omar_> ikonia, mmm, I see.
[21:22] <omar_> ikonia, Well, thanks anyways.
[21:23] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: Why do you want a GUI on a server?
[21:23] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: Because I want to work on my newly acquired domains which I merge with the server.
[21:24] <LinksEz> Does anyone know how to change volume in the control panel?
[21:24] <LinksEz> amixer set master 5- not working for me.
[21:24] <LinksEz> :(
[21:24] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: And this work requires a GUI?
[21:24] <Praxi> man sorry ikonia if you still have ideas how to get my hard drive to auto mount;  Here is my syslog when the hard drive was plugged in.  I MIGHT of captured some of the unplug too;  http://pastebin.com/AKerb1ma
[21:24] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: And also have any easy access for other things when needed.
[21:24] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: LXDE is a good choice for a light DE.
[21:24] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: Yes, at least for me it requires a GUI for easy access.
[21:25] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: Ok, I just want to somehow set it up for the server. Probably x2go-server would do the trick as it did on Debian 7 Desktop 64-bit which I have running now on the server.
[21:25] <Player> Ugb3, sorry about the wait, I went afk for a minute.  I PM'd the commands to you.  PM me back if one of them doesn't work.
[21:25] <DrGrov> But I really want to have something more "new" so to speak and more close to what I am using right here as well.
[21:27] <Ugb3> Player:  Thanks
[21:28] <Praxi> or if anyone else has ideas
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: Please keep discussion in-channel so that we can help ensure that good advice is being given.
[21:29] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: will do.
[21:29] <Player> Jordan_U, Sorry, the commands were long.  I didn't want to flood the chat room.
[21:30] <Player> I'll never understand why AMD puts such long names on everything..
[21:30] <Jordan_U> Player: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <Player> Jordan_U, sorry, not thinking with Ubuntu yet.
[21:31] <Ugb3> Didn't work Player
[21:31] <Ugb3> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475113/
[21:32] <Player> $ cat /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: Why aren't you installing fglrx from the repositories?
[21:32] <Player> put the contents of that file on pastebin.ubuntu
[21:32] <Player> Jordan_U, The legacy drivers from the repositories are outdated and have issues.
[21:32] <Ugb3> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475124/
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Player: Did you at least try them first?
[21:34] <Player> Jordan_U, I have a PC with a 4350 in it.  I checked about a week ago and the same issues arised.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Player: Unless you have the same card they do, or a source suggesting that these problems are universal, I still suggest trying the drivers from the repositories first.
[21:35] <Player> Jordan_U, Ugb3, well I found out why.  AMD doesn't support the legacy cards on Linux any more and it's unable to find the headers due to what I assume is a difference between the Ubuntu release these were intended for and 14.04.
[21:36] <Player> The machine I mentioned runs 12.04 currently so that would be why, it's recommended to use open-source drivers.
[21:36] <Player> Jordan_U, It's the same series card. (Windows identifies his as the same one as mine)
[21:37] <clrtx> hi folks when loggin in with ssh i dont see directory im in only thr $ and also when replicating last used command with cursor up/down butt it doesnt seem to work
[21:37] <Ugb3> Player Jordan_U On the amd website it's stated : "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"
[21:38] <Player> Ugb3, I would suggest cautiously trying $ http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.zip --force but that *could* cause problems, give it a shot and if you can't boot to GUI run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[21:39] <Player> wait, mistype, $ sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run --force
[21:39] <clrtx> how to enable this ?
[21:39] <Yelu> clrtx, type "pwd" and you'll get your current directory you are in
[21:39] <Ugb3> Player: I got it.
[21:39] <clrtx> yes i know Yelu
[21:39] <clrtx> i want it to do by default
[21:39] <Yelu> clrtx, ok
[21:40] <clrtx> like other distros
[21:40] <clrtx> is tthat optional ?
[21:40] <Yelu> then you have to change at least your PS1 prompt (google?)
[21:40] <jost> I need some support configuring a server firewall with ufw. I want to allow outgoing HTTP and DNS requests, and incoming SSH sessions. Everything else should be denied. I've got that, but whenever I enable ufw, it asks me if I want to continue, since active SSH connections could be broken. If I say yes, my SSH connection terminates, but I cannot establish a new connection. After I reboot the server (deactivating ufw in the process), everthing wo
[21:40] <jost> rks fine again.
[21:40] <clrtx> ok
[21:40] <jost> Here is my config: http://pastebin.com/sEZatTxL
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: The fact that the error message explicitly says "Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration", coupled with the fact that (apparently, I haven't checked myself) Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't offer to install drivers for this card, make me think that nothing good can come from running that command.
[21:41] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Too late, i'm rebooting, will see.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> clrtx: How was this user created? It sounds like someone incorrectly set this users' shell to be /bin/sh.
[21:42] <Ugb3> Jordan_U Player Black screen after reboot, i guess i doesn't work.
[21:42] <Player> If it causes problems it's just a matter of purging the fglrx package, his machine is using 100% software rendering so it should default to that.
[21:42] <clrtx> hmm
[21:42] <Player> Ugb3, are you at a recovery prompt or no?
[21:43] <Ugb3> Oh no more black screen, i'm at login screen
[21:43] <LINUX8> How do I change the system language in Xfce
[21:43] <Player> Ugb3, Good, I got worried.  Now the next question is will Unity function properly?
[21:43] <Yelu> clrtx, type set | grep -i "shell="
[21:43] <Ugb3> Player: Nope, i got kick back to login screen.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Yelu: clrtx: That's a really long complicated way to say "echo $SHELL".
[21:44] <xangua> LINUX8: go to your language settings and select the one you want
[21:44]  * Yelu is laughing (and nodding)
[21:44] <Player> Ugb3, My guess would be either X or kernel isn't compatible (I should've asked you to check).
[21:45] <clrtx> ok
[21:45] <Ugb3> Player: "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4" I guess both are more recent ?
[21:45] <zykotick9> Yelu: "echo $SHELL" is a bit easier ;)  clrtx
[21:45] <Player> Ugb3, Yeah, possibly.
[21:45] <clrtx> ok
[21:46] <Player> Ugb3, Do CTRL+ALT+F2, you should be at a tty prompt.  Log in with your user credentials and run that script again (without the --force option).  It should double as an uninstaller as well.
[21:46] <clrtx> indeed its /bin/sh
[21:46] <clrtx> darn
[21:46] <Player> Ugb3, If it doesn't then $ sudo apt-get purge fglrx-legacy
[21:46] <Jordan_U> clrtx: How was this user created?
[21:46] <clrtx> its some one elses machine
[21:46] <clrtx> i just done installing sometin for that person
[21:46] <PeterGriffin> Hello. I want to ezperment with intrusion detection systems. Is it ok if I install snort and bro on the same system?
[21:46] <clrtx> wich went fine
[21:47] <clrtx> only the annoying prompt
[21:47] <Ugb3> Player: No unistaller, did the "sudo apt-get purge fglrx-legacy"
[21:47] <Ugb3> err
[21:47] <Player> Ugb3, Okay.
[21:47] <Ugb3> impossible to fin "fglrx-legacy"
[21:47] <Jordan_U> clrtx: So before you did whatever steps to install whatever, bash was the default shell for this user?
[21:48] <clrtx> hm ok
[21:48] <Player> Well that's interesting, try running the script again with the --uninstall argument.
[21:48] <Player> @Ugb3
[21:48] <Yelu> zykotick9, not for me (my dollar key is damaged <= lousy excuse)
[21:49] <clrtx> hm how to undo and make it standard prompt
[21:49] <DrGrov> How can I check my own SSH settings as a client/server? Trying to check whether it would be possible to open up the server the other way as well, not only as a one-way direction. Having 13.10 64-bit myself.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> clrtx: Did you see my question?
[21:51] <clrtx> let me get owner of machine here Jordan_U sir
[21:51] <clrtx> one moment
[21:51] <Ugb3> Player: I did, i rebooted and got a desktop.
[21:51] <Player> Ugb3, Awesome, I assume it's still indexplicably slow, yeah?
[21:51] <Ugb3> Player: Yeah i can count the fps with my fingers.
[21:52] <Jordan_U> clrtx: "chsh" will allow you to change the login shell, but no reasonable installation process should have changed the user's default shell so you should really explain everything you did to make sure there aren't any other adverse side effects that you just haven't noticed yet.
[21:53] <Player> Ugb3, That's pretty bad, hang on I'll find the open-source driver everyone uses.
[21:54] <Ugb3> Player: And now the system tells me that "System program problem detected"
[21:54] <Neo_> holy crap
[21:54] <clrtx> there you are
[21:54] <clrtx> finally
[21:54] <clrtx> here is the owner of machine Jordan_U
[21:54] <clrtx> Neo_
[21:54] <Player> Ugb3, Not sure what could cause that, what does "more details" say?
[21:55] <clrtx> Neo_
[21:55] <clrtx> 23:52:44 <Jordan_U> : clrtx: "chsh" will allow you to change the login shell, but no reasonable installation process should have changed the user's default shell so you should really explain everything you did to make sure there aren't any other adverse side effects that you just haven't noticed yet.
[21:55] <Neo_> yes bro
[21:55] <aarobc> Okay, I've spun up 5 vms to confirm this and on 2 different bare metal installs. There is a bug in 14.04 that's causing ffmpeg to not send to standard output. 12.04 works just fine as do other debian based distros.
[21:55] <clrtx> 23:47:53 <Jordan_U> : clrtx: so before you did whatever steps to install whatever, bash was the default shell for this user?
[21:55] <clrtx> how did you do this Neo_
[21:55] <Neo_> does he have a vps?
[21:56] <clrtx> he ?
[21:56] <clrtx> who is he ?
[21:56] <Neo_> Jordan_U
[21:56] <clrtx> he is trying to help us Neo_
[21:56] <Neo_> do you use a vps
[21:56] <Drogna> aarobc: Thank you for testing, please file bug report.
[21:56] <clrtx> cause you set /bin/sh
[21:56] <Neo_> ohh
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Neo_: I don't see how that is relevant.
[21:56] <clrtx> wich isnt the standard prompt
[21:56] <Ugb3> Player: "Your system is providing 3D via software rendering rather than hardware rendering. This is a compatibility mode which should display 3D graphics properly but the performance may be very poor. If the problem you're reporting is related to graphics performance, your real question may be why X didn't use hardware acceleration for your system."
[21:56] <clrtx> and annoying to work with
[21:57] <Player> Ugb3, That's basically the issue we've been trying to fix.
[21:57] <clrtx> could you anwer Neo_
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Neo_: Before whatever clrtx recently did to install some (as yet unspecified) software, when you ssh'd did you get a bash shell or a dash shell?
[21:58] <Ugb3> Player: Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in cursorScreenDevPriv()
[21:58] <Neo_> dunno cannot remember
[21:58] <Neo_> i can look in bash history
[21:59] <clrtx> did ya look yet Neo_
[21:59] <Neo_> apt-get install gnu
[21:59] <Neo_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:59] <Neo_> sudo apt-get install libtre-dev
[21:59] <Neo_> them?
[21:59] <clrtx> no
[21:59] <clrtx> the user
[22:00] <Player> Ugb3, Looking around it seems the more commonly used open-sourced drivers are RadeonDriver (the xorg driver), and Galium3D
[22:00] <Neo_> what user
[22:00] <clrtx> where did you install inspi
[22:00] <clrtx> where did you install inspi ?
[22:00] <Neo_> ohh
[22:00] <Neo_> off the net
[22:00] <Neo_> hang on
[22:00] <Neo_> i will get it
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Neo_: The last time you logged in via ssh, did you get a prompt that looked like "username@hostname:~$ " or just one that had "$ " and nothing else?
[22:00] <clrtx> no
[22:00] <clrtx> jeez
[22:00] <Ugb3> Player: Ok, and how could I install one of them ?
[22:00] <clrtx> nvm
[22:01] <clrtx> maybe you can explain to me how to do so for my general knowledge im curious to know how to change this Jordan_U
[22:01] <Juju> I have a TV capture called "Easy TV USB Hybrid Pro"... COuld someone help me to install it?
[22:01] <Juju> Please
[22:01] <Player> Ugb3, If you want to try Galium3D, run these commands: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475238/
[22:01] <Neo_> username@hostname:~$
[22:01] <Neo_> it was
[22:02] <clrtx> its not now Neo_
[22:02] <clrtx> now its $
[22:02] <clrtx> no path no user no nothing
[22:02] <Player> $ echo $PATH ?
[22:02] <Player> $ echo $HOME ?
[22:02] <Neo_> is now $
[22:02] <Jordan_U> clrtx: OK, so it sounds like something you did changed the login shell. What were you installing and what commands did you run to do so?
[22:03] <Viking667> hey, I've just come up with a big problem.
[22:03] <clrtx> standard commands to install anope Jordan_U
[22:03] <Viking667> My computer's no longer accepting my login password.
[22:03] <clrtx> done many times
[22:03] <clrtx> all went fine
[22:03] <clrtx> it already was set that way Jordan_U
[22:03] <clrtx> the prompt
[22:04] <zykotick9> Viking667: do you mean from the GUI login?  from CTRL+ALT+F1 can you login ok?
[22:05] <Viking667> yeah. It's my ... hang on, I'll look it up.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> clrtx: So when you first logged in you recieved a "$ " prompt?
[22:05] <Ugb3> Player: I did, same as before, 5 fps and 9/10 of the screen used.
[22:05] <clrtx> yes Jordan_U
[22:05] <Player> Ugb3, The package installed and you rebooted?
[22:05] <Viking667> ouch. I found out what the problem is.
[22:06] <Ugb3> Player: Yep
[22:06] <Jordan_U> clrtx: OK. "chsh --shell /bin/bash" will fix this particular problem, though I don't like that we don't know what caused it in the first place.
[22:06] <Viking667> the problem seems to be that the bit that asks for my password isn't using dvorak keyboard for its input.
[22:06] <Player> Ugb3, MY BAD!  I gave you the wrong package, run $ sudo apt-get purge libg3dvl-mesa && sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers
[22:06] <clrtx> yes Neo_ doesnt seem to understand Jordan_U
[22:06] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: i'd "guess" someone used useradd instead of adduser... but just a guess ;)
[22:06] <clrtx> should that cmd be run in root Jordan_U ?
[22:07] <clrtx> hmm ok zykotick9
[22:07] <Neo_> no i understand but its always been like that $ *shrugs*
[22:07] <Jordan_U> clrtx: No. It should be run as the user whose shell you want to change.
[22:07] <clrtx> ok
[22:07] <DrGrov> Just installed ubuntu-desktop on 14.10 64-bit on the server. Now I wonder, how do I get a remote desktop access to the server? Any particular program I can use to achieve it in the easiest possible way?
[22:07] <DrGrov> Or do I have to do some additional configuration on the server itself?
[22:08] <Viking667> DrGrov: if you've got a gui desktop available, then often connecting with VNC would work if you'd set the permissions up correctly.
[22:08] <Player> DrGrov, I use VNC,  but you have to configure it to run the xserver. (I've been dealing with this over the past day and a half)
[22:08] <DrGrov> Ok
[22:08] <sadbox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaWiki   <- If someone already has an account would like to update that page, it doesn't work prefecttly in 14.04
[22:08] <Yelu> Jordan_U, just a thought: maybe it's just the basic/default setup for this IPS's VPS package (sh shell for ssh connections instead of bash)?
[22:09] <DrGrov> I used x2go-server on Debian 7 Desktop 64-bit and x2go-client on my end to get it to GUI.
[22:09] <sadbox> You have to "sudo a2enconf mediawiki" to enable it
[22:09] <DrGrov> Can I still set it up in the same way on the server as I did with Debian 7 ?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> Yelu: That would be a pretty silly setup for a VPS to have.
[22:09] <Viking667> gah. Stuff this.
[22:09] <Yelu> Jordan_U, did I say the opposite? ;)
[22:10] <clrtx> ive run the cmd Jordan_U
[22:10] <clrtx> it gave me promt for pass
[22:10] <clrtx> i filled in pass
[22:10] <clrtx> and nothing changed
[22:10] <Player> DrGrov, One of my biggest issues was getting the xserver and desktop environment running.  It was apparently looking for a $DISPLAY environment variable.  I had to define this in ~/.profile, the other issue was I couldn't get the DE to start up automatically.
[22:10] <DrGrov> Or does the ubuntu-desktop metapackage provide me with GUI access already itself and I just need to connect to the server via any default available 13.10 64-bit software?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> clrtx: Log out and log back in again.
[22:11] <DrGrov> Player: Okay, thanks for letting me know. That might cause a headache or two in this case. Perhaps I will have to switch back to Debian 7 Desktop then on the server.
[22:11] <clrtx> ok
[22:11] <Player> DrGrov, If you're using Xtightvnc then you set the DE to start in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[22:12] <Ugb3> Player: Ok im going that.
[22:12] <Viking667> If the Ubuntu got vino installed, then that's your VNC server.
[22:12] <clrtx> that did it Jordan_U
[22:12] <clrtx> nice indeed
[22:12] <Player> DrGrov, Well, the difference here is I was setting it up with xfce4, I think unity might work reasonably out-of-the-box.
[22:12] <clrtx> thanx apreciated
[22:12] <Ugb3> Player: It say that the most recent ones are already installed.
[22:12] <Jordan_U> clrtx: You're welcome.
[22:12] <DrGrov> Player: Okay, I will test watching some YT videos on the matter and see what visually it means, easier to get a grip of it that way in my opinion.
[22:14] <Player> DrGrov, YouTube videos need flash unless they switched 100% to the HTML5 player, either way you'd need hardware accelerated graphics which wouldn't be available on a VPS.
[22:14] <DrGrov> Player: I will just watch them on my own computer :)
[22:14] <Player> DrGrov, if you want to test anyway, my recommendation would be to download Google Chrome (not to be confused with Chromium) since it has it's own version of Flash Player.
[22:14] <Player> DrGrov, oh, haha I misunderstood then.  that works!
[22:15] <DrGrov> Player: I got myself a Intel Xeon E5-2620 at 2.0 GHz with 8GB of RAM, 1 TB drive etc etc.
[22:15] <DrGrov> So I am good :)
[22:15] <timwis> Hey guys, I've just bought a windows 8 laptop and I'd like to dual boot to Ubuntu. I'm a software dev but I've only limited experience with linux; I'd like to learn more. Should I go with 14.04 or 12.04?
[22:16] <bekks> timwis: 14.04
[22:16] <Player> timwis, 14.04, just for the sake of it being latest.
[22:16] <Viking667> definitely 14.04
[22:16] <timwis> k thx
[22:16] <Ugb3> Player: So, I should give up getting ubuntu to work on my computer ?
[22:17] <Player> Ugb3, You tried installing the mesa-vdpau-drivers package..?
[22:17] <Ugb3> Player: Yeah, I told you it says that the most recent one is already installed.
[22:18] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: If all you want is smooth Window movement, and you don't have other apps that need 3D accelleration, then you might be happy with LXDE or XFCE instead of Unity.
[22:18] <Player> Ugb3, I didn't see that, sorry!  That's interesting though, you purged libg3dvl-mesa ?
[22:18] <simone> ciao, cos'é?
[22:19] <Player> Jordan_U, With single digit frames-per-second in Unity I'm not exactly sure how much better it'd be in another DE.
[22:19] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: That's not really a solution, I will still need a minimum of acceleration to get a smooth anything.
[22:19] <Ugb3> Player: Yes i did.
[22:19] <Yelu> clrtx, just a tip: use "adduser" to have a default shelll of "/bin/bash"  - NOT "useradd": this will give the new user "/bin/sh" by default (defined in "/etc/default/useradd")
[22:20] <clrtx> thank you sir Yelu myselve i always use adduser
[22:20] <clrtx> this machine isnt mine Yelu
[22:20] <Jordan_U> !it | simone
[22:21] <Yelu> clrtx, I know, but who else wants to read it ...
[22:21] <Player> Ugb3, That's odd, maybe it installed itself and conflicted with the Xorg Radeon Driver, possibly?
[22:21] <clrtx> thanks for the info aperciated
[22:21] <clrtx> indeed Yelu
[22:21] <Ugb3> Player: I don't know, i'm the unsavvy one here haha
[22:22] <simone> tenks jordan
[22:22] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: I guarantee that LXDE with just a text editor would be butter smooth with no GPU acceleration.
[22:23] <Ugb3> And 720 video Jordan_U ?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Less so :)
[22:23] <Ugb3> 1080*
[22:23] <Player> Ugb3, Yeah, I understand.  Usually installing with the script from AMD's site does the trick but this is a legacy card so that's not the case unfortunately.  I think we'll try two things, removing the Gallium3D driver (after ensuring the RadeonDriver's installed) and vice versa.
[22:23] <Viking667> what in the heck's Gallium3D?
[22:23] <Player> Ugb3, I have a hunch that it might be some bad conf file but I have no idea which would it could be.
[22:23] <Viking667> I keep hearing of this.
[22:23] <Player> Viking667, Open-source AMD driver.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> Viking667: It's a reletively new framework for writing Open Source graphics drivers.
[22:24] <Ugb3> Jordan_U Player What i don't understand is that the drivers worked well with fedora
[22:24] <OerHeks> Ugb3, for your ati 4550 right?
[22:24] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: If the drivers doesn't work with lubuntu i will still not have a real full screen.
[22:25] <Ugb3> OerHeks: Yep.
[22:25] <Player> Ugb3, paste the output of $ dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' here, please.
[22:26] <Ugb3> Player: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475349/
[22:26] <Player> Ugb3, Is that all?
[22:27] <Ugb3> Player: Yep
[22:27] <RyNet> How do i hide my IP when i connect to a channel
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: What is the contents of /proc/cmdline ?
[22:28] <Player> Ugb3, $ radeon -v
[22:28] <zykotick9> !cloak | RyNet
[22:28] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro nomodeset quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[22:28] <RyNet> !cloak thanks
[22:28] <Ugb3> Player: No found.
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Well there's your problem. When did you add nomodeset as a kernel parameter?
[22:29] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: I had to do it during the boot on the livecd but never changed it in grub.
[22:30] <nwg> Ubuntu 14.04 - it looks like Nautilus (now Files) no longer supports tree view in the sidebar.  There is an option for tree view within the lists, however.
[22:30] <nwg> anyone figured out how to get tree view in the sidebar?
[22:30] <xangua> nwg: you might wanna try nemo, a fork of nautilus before gnome stript it down
[22:31] <dalias> i'm a new ubuntu user (at least temporarily, got it preinstalled on an asus 1015e) and have a serious mouse/touchpad problem that's clearly software-based: the pointer is "snapping" to interface elements like the buttons in the window title bars, etc. when moved near them
[22:31] <dalias> how do i disable this?
[22:32] <nwg> thought about nemo.  not sure how i feel about the cinnamon deps.
[22:32] <Player> Ugb3, try removing that perameter in GRUB.  I didn't think to check there since I assumed if you had to do that you would've removed it.
[22:33] <xangua> nwg: don't know if it has tree view but it does have double panel view, the webupd8 PPA installs it withouth cinnamon dependencies http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[22:33] <Freeder> I told you I'd be back :)
[22:33] <Player> wb
[22:33] <nwg> thx.  saw that link.
[22:33] <dalias> anyone?
[22:34] <Player> dalias, Check GNOME settings or CompizConfigSettings manager.
[22:34] <Freeder> Upgraded to 12.04, after reboot I get 'error: the symbol "grub_xputs" not found."
[22:34] <Freeder> any thoughts on how to fix?
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: The installer copies manually added kernel parameters to the installed system, on the assumption that the user added them for a good reason (they're needed).
[22:34] <Ugb3> Player: How should i do it ? nano /proc/cmdline
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: /etc/default/grub
[22:35] <Player> Freeder, when does this happen during boot?
[22:35] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: I didn't understand what you said.
[22:35] <Player> Freeder, Before or after the GRUB menu?
[22:35] <zykotick9> Ugb3: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[22:35] <dalias> player, it happens even with startx running nothing but an xterm and twm...
[22:36] <Player> I guess there's a party everyone went to.
[22:36] <Player> For a few seconds..
[22:36] <nwg> yeah, seems like it.
[22:36] <zykotick9> Ugb3: after the edit run "sudo update-grub"
[22:36] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Thanks, just did it.
[22:36] <Freeder> Player: it happens at boot... I don't have boot options on this machine
[22:37]  * Viking667 departs
[22:37] <Player> Freeder, Right after POST, I assume?  Sounds like a misconfigured GRUB.
[22:37] <Player> Freeder, are you multi-booted?
[22:37] <Freeder> no
[22:38] <Freeder> and like I said, i haven't touched it myself, but I upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04
[22:38] <Ugb3> Player: Ok removed nomodesetting, update grub, rebooted, and now i only get a black screen.
[22:38] <Player> Freeder, Alright, well try booting into a live environment and using the boot-repair utility, or manually reinstalling/updating GRUB.
[22:38] <apols> ...
[22:38] <Ugb3> Player: And i can't even reach the machine with ssh.
[22:38] <Freeder> where do I find the boot-repair utility?
[22:39] <Player> Ugb3, Did you remove the Galium3D driver?
[22:39] <Ugb3> Player: Nope.
[22:39] <Player> Ugb3, Before you removed nomodsetting
[22:39] <Ugb3> Nope
[22:39] <Player> Freeder, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:39] <zykotick9> Ugb3: hold SHIFT after BIOS, to get the grub menu, then use "e" to edit the kernel line, readd "nomodeset", then ctrl+x to boot (i believe, it tells you)
[22:39] <heatherUVU> Hi! Did I download the correct version for my PC? amd64 is for a PC with more than 4GB of RAM?
[22:40] <Player> Ugb3, zykotick9 I was going to suggest removing it under recovery mode but that works as well.
[22:40] <Player> heatherUVU, not for more than 4GB of RAM specifically, for 64-bit architectures
[22:40] <heatherUVU> Player: That's what I meant. :P
[22:40] <Player> heatherUVU, But amd64 allows you to allocate 4GB of RAM.
[22:40] <heatherUVU> Player: Perfect!
[22:40] <Player> heatherUVU, In that case, yes.
[22:40] <heatherUVU> Thanks.
[22:40] <Player> No probelm.
[22:40] <Player> Problem.*
[22:41] <zykotick9> Ugb3: note, that's a one time fix.  you'd have to re-edit /etc/default/grub and readd nomodeset to make it permanent.
[22:41] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Ok thank you.
[22:41] <Player> zykotick9, Ugb3  We've been trying to get his drivers working for a while now, I think the problem now is that there's two drivers conflicting or the Xorg RadeonDriver isn't compatible with his card.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Why did you add nomodeset to the LiveCD/USB's kernel parameters in the first place?
[22:42] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: I got stuck at the 5 orange dot screen.
[22:42] <Ugb3> Ok got my desktop back.
[22:42] <Player> Jordan_U, Ugb3, Thinking about it it makes more sense that it's incompatibility with RadeonDriver, if he needed nomodsetting to install in the first place.
[22:43] <DrGrov> How do I check my own SSH settings on my end in 13.10?
[22:43] <DrGrov> Want to check a bit into a few options whether it is turned on at the moment and how I can easily turn it on if needed
[22:44] <theman> hey
[22:44] <tagninja03600> yo
[22:45] <Guest12402> irc
[22:45] <Guest12402> cool
[22:45] <tagninja03600> lol
[22:46] <phoenixz> Anybody who might know how I can install teamviewer on 14.04?
[22:46] <holstein> phoenixz: i just download the .deb and install it
[22:46] <tagninja03600> for what do you need teamviewer
[22:47] <phoenixz> I have dependancy problems, specifically with libsound2
[22:47] <tagninja03600> ad for it, they should provide you with a .deb file for it
[22:47] <Guest12402> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[22:47] <holstein> phoenixz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[22:47] <Guest12402> read that
[22:47] <phoenixz> tagninja03600: control a remote windows desktop
[22:47] <tagninja03600> good question is if they are up to date with ubuntu
[22:47] <holstein> phoenixz: let them know its not working for you
[22:47] <tagninja03600> if there is no .dep for 14.04 then run virtualbox with a xp vm
[22:47] <tagninja03600> ^
[22:47] <phoenixz> holstein: I've done that already since long ago (teamviewer deb always has been problematic) and in these years, I have seen no update so.. always the same stupid problem :(
[22:47] <tagninja03600> ^
[22:48] <holstein> tagninja03600: .dep ?
[22:48] <tagninja03600> **.deb
[22:48] <tagninja03600> sorry
[22:48] <phoenixz> tagninja03600: installing an OS on a VM just to use teamviewer
[22:48] <phoenixz> :S
[22:48] <holstein> phoenixz: it has always just worked for me, out of the box..
[22:48] <tagninja03600> and outlock
[22:48] <Ugb3> Player: So finally my card is just incompatible ith ubuntu ?
[22:49] <Guest12402> use wine I suppose?
[22:49] <tagninja03600> you could also register in teamviewer
[22:49] <Player> Ugb3, If you purged the Galium3D, then yes it's incompatible out of the box.  It's just a matter of finding the right open-source driver (preferably one that lists the 4xxx series as supported) and installing it.
[22:49] <apb1963> teamviewer uses wine
[22:49] <tagninja03600> and run the browser software
[22:49] <holstein> teamviewer uses wine already
[22:50] <Player> Yeah, TeamViewer probably has one of the worst Linux versions of any software I've seen. haha
[22:50] <tagninja03600> nah skype
[22:50] <apb1963> nope.... nevernote
[22:50] <tagninja03600> hmmmm good point
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Please try booting the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, but remove "quiet" and "splash" to hopefully see where things are going wrong. Do *not* add nomodeset.
[22:51] <apb1963> from time to time my mouse stops working... it disappears from the screen.  If I switch VT's and screens back and forth enough times, it eventually comes back.  Any ideas on this?  ubuntu 12.04
[22:52] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Okay.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: By using the LiveCD/USB we can rule out all of the changes we've recently made in the installed system. We're working "clean".
[22:53] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: nomodeset = system start, without = system hangs - i bet i know where the issue is...
[22:53] <tagninja03600> should I use ufw or can I still stick with iptables?
[22:53] <holstein> tagninja03600: use what you can use "best" for your purposes
[22:53] <holstein> !firewall
[22:55] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: for some reason i can't boot on the usb stick anymore, i'm re-dding it and i will try again.
[22:57] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Ok booting.
[22:58] <Ugb3> Jordan_U Player: drm_kms_helper: panic occured, swhitching back to text console
[22:59] <Ugb3> and the line on top of it Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception interrupt
[22:59] <bencc> I did something wrong with my .bash_profile. how can I login and fix it?
[22:59] <bencc> it won't let me log in
[23:00] <Player> Ugb3, Kernel panics, I haven't dealt with those in 2 years, and last time I did it was on OS X.
[23:00] <Ugb3> Ugb3: Ahaha yeah usually that's a funny thing...
[23:00] <Player> I don't even remember how you get additional info on kernel panics, Jordan_U do you have some insight?
[23:05] <Player_> sorry, had to reset router switch, did I miss anything Ugb3 ?
[23:05] <Ugb3> Nope Player_
[23:07] <someone235> hi, when my layout is not English most of the hotkeys doesn't work (basic hotkeys such as ctrl + c, ctrl + v etc). Anyone knows how can I fix it?
[23:08] <Praxi> what is the correct way to have a drive auto mount when it is plugged in.
[23:09] <k1l_> Praxi: that should be done by nautilus with gvfs anyway
[23:10] <Praxi> its on a server, so no gui
[23:10] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: So did the kernel panic gave you any information ?
[23:13] <Player> Ugb3, I think Jordan_U is afk.
[23:13] <Ugb3> I think so.
[23:14] <Ugb3> Maybe i should try to find 20€ to buy a nvidia card and get out of this driver problem.
[23:15] <halimo> i need to understaand ybiquity
[23:15] <halimo> ubiquity
[23:15] <halimo> any help plzz
[23:16] <Deihmos> Is there a simple way to enable the middle mouse button for scrolling web pages
[23:16] <Yelu> bencc, if you got no chance to log in, than boot with a Live CD, mount your partition and delete your .bash_...-files in your user's home directory. - copy a new .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc to your home
[23:17] <Player> Ugb3, Honestly that's a really good idea.  I'm not saying that's the only way but in my experience Radeon cards never perform as well as you wish they would under Linux.
[23:17] <Yelu> bencc, better make save copies of the files
[23:18] <Ugb3> Player: I just wish something on the ubuntu there were some kind of incompatibility hardware listing, cause obviously after some hours we can't get it to work so it's kind of unsuported by ubuntu.
[23:19] <Ugb3> Thanks you for your Help Player Jordan_U and the others.
[23:19] <k1l_> halimo: what do you dont understand exactly?
[23:20] <Player> Ugb3, I concur.  That Galium3D driver should've been the solution, but there's no real way for the end-user to know because there's no supported-hardware/confirmed-to-be-compatible list.
[23:20] <Player> Same with the Xorg RadeonDriver.
[23:21] <Player> Well, at least one that's apparant.
[23:22] <Player> Ugb3, I'm looking around to see if Linux logs kernel panics anywhere, because the message that it spewed wasn't a lot of useful information unfortunately.
[23:23] <Player> Ugb3, unless there were things above and below that you didn't paste here
[23:23] <Terje_> Hello, i just set up my first ubuntu server and i am trying to come up with useful CRON jobs that i should set
[23:23] <Ugb3> Lot of things, but ca'nt past it, the machine is stuck, i can take a pickture though Player
[23:23] <Terje_> And i was wondering if you had any good suggestions ( i suppose you get this question a lot )
[23:24] <Terje_> I made a google doc to organize it :P https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AKKTMrUNNgNz71zzyPNLq4jGrX9UbXZc1qQH7j3XgJg/edit#gid=0
[23:24] <Player> Ugb3, If it has info you didn't put here, go for it.  Just make sure the text is somewhat readable.
[23:24] <k1l_> Terje_: put your backup tasks to cronjob, for example
[23:25] <Terje_> k1l_: I have already added that to my list, it's quite important
[23:25] <Ugb3> Player: ok wait a sec
[23:25] <Terje_> Anyone can edit the google doc, this way if we all contribute we will eventually have something to point others askign the same question to :)
[23:26] <Ugb3> Player: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26470057/photo%203.JPG
[23:28] <Player> Ugb3, Well it seems obvious but the issue is without a doubt with Xorg RadeonDriver
[23:28] <k1l_> Terje_: i doubt that. the usecase differs a lot from user to user.
[23:29] <Player> Ugb3, That was when starting from LiveCD/USB?
[23:29] <Ugb3> Player: yep
[23:29] <Player> Ugb3, I assume the same thing occurs when you try to boot without nomodsetting
[23:29] <Player> ?
[23:30] <Ugb3> I guess, didn't tried it without quiet and splash
[23:30] <Player> Ugb3, Try it, it probably will produce the same result but you never know.
[23:30] <Ugb3> ok
[23:30] <Player> Terje_, What is this server for?
[23:31] <hylian> after installing mate desktop, it doesn't appear in the login screen..??
[23:31] <Yelu> halimo, intro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquity_%28software%29
[23:31] <Player> hylian, what distro version?
[23:32] <Terje_> Player: It's entire purpose is to run a server that i am developing
[23:32] <Player> Terje_, that serves what purpose?
[23:32] <hylian> Player: Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit.
[23:32] <Player> Terje_, What is the server supposed to do?
[23:32] <Ugb3> Player: It seems i'm only getting a black screen...
[23:33] <Player> hylian, does anything appear instead of the login screen?
[23:33] <Ugb3> Player: 'im giving up, it's late here and i'm gonna sleep.
[23:33] <Player> Ugb3, can you go to a tty prompt? (I may've asked this before)
[23:33] <hylian> Player: the login screen, option for openbox, xfce and xubuntu. just not mate.
[23:33] <Ugb3> Player: nothing, the computer crashes.
[23:33] <Terje_> Player: Users connect to it asking the server to download webpages for them. However there is no filetransfering involved, it will speak to clients in a protocol (because that's all that is neccessary)
[23:33] <Player> hylian, how did you install MATE?
[23:33] <Ugb3> Player: Anyway thanks for the help, i'm going to sleep, bye ;)
[23:34] <Player> Ugb3, sorry we couldn't resolve your issue :(
[23:34] <hylian> Player: i used synaptic
[23:34] <Ugb3> No prob Player
[23:34] <Player> hylian, I would try $ sudo apt-get build-dep mate
[23:35] <Player> hylian, sorry, not sure what the package for mate is called, maybe mate-desktop?
[23:35] <hylian> Player: i'll try that now, thanks!
[23:35] <hylian> Player: i got this: E: Unable to find a source package for mate
[23:36] <Player> hylian, yeah I didn't have the right package name
[23:36] <hylian> Player: it's mate-desktop
[23:36] <Player> alright, build-dep that
[23:36] <Player> hylian, $ sudo apt-get build-dep mate-desktop
[23:37] <hylian> Player: i'm doing that now, thanks again
[23:37] <Player> hylian, let me know if that does it
[23:37] <hylian> Player: cool, did that. should i log out and check it now?
[23:38] <Player> hylian, yeah, if it doesn't work then it's an issue with lightdm.  if you want to confirm that try manually starting mate from a tty prompt
[23:38] <Freeder> Player, have you used boot repair disk?
[23:38] <hylian> Player: how would I do that? do i start the x server first..??
[23:38] <Freeder> it says to delete files using the browser it pops up, but its a web browser... I dont see a way to delete files
[23:39] <Player> hylian, I believe mate has a --replace perameter, so you could log into the DE of your choice and run that (might break something but I just need to know if mate runs at all)
[23:40] <Player> oh he left, Freeder, no I haven't.  I've always booted in with a LiveCD/LiveUSB and installed it from their repository.
[23:40] <Player> hylian, I believe mate has a --replace perameter, so you could log into the DE of your choice and run that (might break something but I just need to know if mate runs at all)
[23:41] <hylian> Player: hmm, yeah, i think you are right. time to do some diggin and figure out how to make my own lightdm setting
[23:41] <Player> hylian, odd, shouldn't be hard to figure out
[23:41] <Player> hylian, I would bet that they have some sort of means to update the list automatically (like grub).
[23:42] <hylian> Player: there is a mate-autogen. trying that now
[23:42] <Player> hylian, looking around at basic install instructions for MATE it looks like you need to install a keyring, did synaptic handle that automatically?
[23:43] <Player> archive keyring*
[23:43] <Freeder> fudge
[23:43] <Freeder> and its mounted ro, so i cant even delete things
[23:43] <Freeder> this seems to be a pretty silly tool
[23:43] <hylian> Player: it was supposed too. OMGUbuntu covered it. I have never had a problem getting mate to install before, but that was through their repo.
[23:43] <_[myth> build-essentai
[23:44] <Player> hylian, alright, well if you can't get it to work try purging it and installing it from their repo.
[23:44] <hylian> Player: well autogen cmpleted, logging out again to see if that helped.
[23:44] <lorfds> i am securing a production web server
[23:44] <lorfds> and am trying to figure out whether it is kosher to be running ufw and nftables at the same time
[23:44] <lorfds> or should you only be running one of these?
[23:45] <lorfds> obviously kind of new to this
[23:45] <lorfds> just trying to figure out if these solutions are meant to be run together or not
[23:45] <Player> hylian, did that do it?
[23:46] <hylian> Player: well that didn't work. I'll do some more research, and if i cant find anything no big deal.My fave desktop is still xfce anyways.
[23:46] <Player> hylian, haha, alright, my best guess would be $ sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:46] <Player> or nano if you don't have gedit or some other graphical text editor
[23:47] <hylian> Player: or in my case mousepad, but i get your gist, thanks.
[23:47] <Player> hylian, yeah I gotta learn how to generalize these things better.  assisting people with Linux is way different than Windows
[23:48] <hylian> Player: true true! :)
[23:48] <paperman> Hello all
[23:48] <ODB2> Hello paperman
[23:48] <paperman> My first day on ubuntu. I'm trying to enable file sharing with my dual boot windows, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[23:49] <paperman> I've turned off fast restart and hibernate
[23:49] <Fudge> Freeder: ?
[23:49] <paperman> still no luck
[23:49] <desolator> good day
[23:49] <ODB2> @paperman are you using Samba?
[23:49] <paperman> ODB2, that may be the last resort
[23:49] <Fudge> nvm Freeder
[23:49] <paperman> I'd rather just be able to access through home
[23:50] <fwaokda> i have a folder at that i run "ruby -v" and I get "ruby 2.1.1p76 (2014-02-24 revision 45161) [x86_64-linux]" then I go to another folder and run "ruby -v" and it acts like it's not installed.  Anyone know why this is?
[23:51] <desolator> I was wondering, is it possible to create a partition out of my windows 7 drive (does ntfs support resizing?), create a ubuntu partition to trasnfer the files and then delete the ntfs partition and enlarge my ext3?
[23:51] <ODB2> @paperman, what precisely do you mean, access through home?
[23:51] <desolator> or do I need a backup device to transfer my files
[23:51] <paperman> you know the windows partition that I can access from home
[23:52] <rhs> paperman: it's in /media
[23:52] <Player> fwaokda, is this a standalone binary or did it come in a package that you installed with dpkg or apt-get?
[23:53] <desolator> paperman, sorry I arrived here late. Are you trying to access your drive remotely?
[23:53] <fwaokda> Player, kinda new to all this so unsure, I followed a guide online to install. when i do which ruby
[23:54] <fwaokda> in the one folder i get /home/fwaokda/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.1/bin/ruby
[23:54] <Player> fwaokda, it's not in /usr/bin?
[23:54] <Player> fwaokda, that might be why
[23:55] <desolator> There are many solutions that could work, for example remote desktop assistence, vnc, ftp over a vpn
[23:55] <Player> fwaokda, maybe try symlinking it into /usr/bin
[23:55] <fwaokda> nope... can i just move it into /usr/bin?
[23:55] <Player> you might have to run sudo nautilus
[23:55] <Player> sorry, gksudo nautilus
[23:55] <paperman> yes
[23:55] <paperman> guys see this - http://i.imgur.com/ujDV6zu.jpg?1
[23:56] <Player> fwaokda, if you're on Ubuntu you can make a symlink by right clicking on the object and clicking "make link."
[23:56] <Yelu> lorfds, since a server topic is concerned, it might be better asking your question in #ubuntu-server
[23:56] <fwaokda> Player, ok thanks i'll try it
[23:56] <lorfds> yelu: ok thanks…didnt realize they were different
[23:58] <Player> fwaokda, if it gives you a permission denied message when you try to move it into /usr/bin, delete the link and try doing it in gksu nautilus
[23:58] <paperman> ODB2, rhs http://i.imgur.com/ujDV6zu.jpg?1
[23:59] <ODB2> @paperman very odd