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zequence | linux rt built fine in the PPA | 07:24 |
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SonikkuAmerica | Hello! At long last I am able to test out the Ubuntu Studio under UEFI situation. I plopped the install into a VM with UEFI in VBox. Now, to see if renaming /EFI/ubuntustudio to /EFI/ubuntu on the ESP works. | 21:08 |
SonikkuAmerica | If it does, I'll let you know. | 21:08 |
SonikkuAmerica | After testing, it seems that it works on its own on UEFI, with Secure Boot disabled. | 21:29 |
SonikkuAmerica | (14.04) | 21:29 |
zequence | SonikkuAmerica: AFAIK 14.04 works fine with UEFI | 22:36 |
zequence | I tried an installtion with Secure boot enabled, and it worked | 22:36 |
zequence | The kernel is now merged with linux-generic, and is maintained by canonical | 22:37 |
zequence | We didn't have the signed stuff before, but since 14.04 we have what -generic has | 22:37 |
zequence | I did my test install on a machine suited for Windows 8. Currently running Debian on it. | 22:38 |
holstein | i was hoping we were done with RT kernels... | 22:39 |
zequence | it's not a replacement | 22:39 |
zequence | if it performs better than -lowlatency, and it's not too tough to maintain, I'm adding it to the repo | 22:40 |
holstein | depends on what one is doing | 22:40 |
holstein | if it messes with the battery life on a machine that is not doing audio production, thats worse performance.. but im just saying, i was hoping we were done with them by now.. or would be | 22:41 |
zequence | if it doesn't break anything, and it serves a purpose, there's no argument against adding it | 22:41 |
zequence | especially since it's me who does the work, not Ubuntu Studio | 22:41 |
holstein | there are the known breakages.. | 22:42 |
zequence | -lowlatency is really what -generic should be (-generic is suited for servers) | 22:42 |
zequence | But, it's not good enough in all situations | 22:42 |
holstein | i mean, i can and might argue against adding it, but, im interested in testing.. | 22:42 |
holstein | i havent had my firewire device around to test with since 14.04 went stable | 22:42 |
zequence | As I said, it's not replacing -lowlatency | 22:42 |
zequence | And, if it serves a purpose, there is no argument against adding it, since it's not breaking anything | 22:43 |
zequence | i don't need anyones permission to add a kernel into universe, except for the Ubuntu kernel folks | 22:43 |
holstein | sure.. but it *does* break some things... | 22:43 |
zequence | How? If it's not our default kernel, how would it breakt things? | 22:44 |
holstein | zequence: im not saying you need my permission | 22:44 |
zequence | For the third time, it's not a replacement | 22:44 |
zequence | on the issue of us adding it as an install option (if we get to that point - we're still haven't even done a single test), then it is a matter for Ubuntu Studio | 22:45 |
holstein | zequence: sure.. and i understand,, and really just wanted to say.. i suppose that can also be for the third time, that i was hoping we wouldnt need it anymore | 22:45 |
holstein | i look forward to testing with my hardware.. all the cases i have, with both kernels | 22:45 |
SonikkuAmerica | And look what I started :P lol | 22:45 |
zequence | SonikkuAmerica: We were talking about something esle | 22:45 |
SonikkuAmerica | oh | 22:46 |
zequence | I'm looking at adding linux-rt back into the repos | 22:46 |
SonikkuAmerica | At any rate, I'd say my work with that is done for now :D | 22:46 |
zequence | But, this time, syncing linux-rt from Debian | 22:46 |
zequence | holstein: -lowlatency will stay default, since it's the best choice. But, for those who need extra low latency - which I happen to need for live audio processing, then you always have a further choice | 22:49 |
zequence | Computer hardware today should have no problem doing what we need it to do for audio processing, but most linux devs aren't focusing on that specific area | 22:50 |
zequence | And linux is used mostly on servers and embedded devices, not studio desktop machines | 22:50 |
zequence | -lowlatency makes things a little bit easier for us, but it's not reliable enough at all times | 22:51 |
zequence | In certain situations, you'll get problems | 22:51 |
zequence | -rt will probably introduce new problems, but that's how things go | 22:51 |
zequence | SonikkuAmerica: It's cool that you put some effort in figuring that stuff out anyhow | 22:53 |
SonikkuAmerica | :D | 22:53 |
zequence | SonikkuAmerica: I've seen you on a few times, but whenever I tried to answer you, you had logged out already | 22:53 |
SonikkuAmerica | Yeah, I forgot to put #ubuntustudio-devel on my list of favorites | 22:54 |
DalekSec | zequence: Just real quick, have you done much in Debian-multimedia? | 23:40 |
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