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zequencelinux rt built fine in the PPA07:24
SonikkuAmericaHello! At long last I am able to test out the Ubuntu Studio under UEFI situation. I plopped the install into a VM with UEFI in VBox. Now, to see if renaming /EFI/ubuntustudio to /EFI/ubuntu on the ESP works.21:08
SonikkuAmericaIf it does, I'll let you know.21:08
SonikkuAmericaAfter testing, it seems that it works on its own on UEFI, with Secure Boot disabled.21:29
SonikkuAmerica(14.04)21:29
zequenceSonikkuAmerica: AFAIK 14.04 works fine with UEFI22:36
zequenceI tried an installtion with Secure boot enabled, and it worked22:36
zequenceThe kernel is now merged with linux-generic, and is maintained by canonical22:37
zequenceWe didn't have the signed stuff before, but since 14.04 we have what -generic has22:37
zequenceI did my test install on a machine suited for Windows 8. Currently running Debian on it.22:38
holsteini was hoping we were done with RT kernels...22:39
zequenceit's not a replacement22:39
zequenceif it performs better than -lowlatency, and it's not too tough to maintain, I'm adding it to the repo22:40
holsteindepends on what one is doing22:40
holsteinif it messes with the battery life on a machine that is not doing audio production, thats worse performance.. but im just saying, i was hoping we were done with them by now.. or would be22:41
zequenceif it doesn't break anything, and it serves a purpose, there's no argument against adding it22:41
zequenceespecially since it's me who does the work, not Ubuntu Studio22:41
holsteinthere are the known breakages..22:42
zequence-lowlatency is really what -generic should be (-generic is suited for servers)22:42
zequenceBut, it's not good enough in all situations22:42
holsteini mean, i can and might argue against adding it, but, im interested in testing..22:42
holsteini havent had my firewire device around to test with since 14.04 went stable22:42
zequenceAs I said, it's not replacing -lowlatency22:42
zequenceAnd, if it serves a purpose, there is no argument against adding it, since it's not breaking anything22:43
zequencei don't need anyones permission to add a kernel into universe, except for the Ubuntu kernel folks22:43
holsteinsure.. but it *does* break some things...22:43
zequenceHow? If it's not our default kernel, how would it breakt things?22:44
holsteinzequence: im not saying you need my permission22:44
zequenceFor the third time, it's not a replacement22:44
zequenceon the issue of us adding it as an install option (if we get to that point - we're still haven't even done a single test), then it is a matter for Ubuntu Studio22:45
holsteinzequence: sure.. and i understand,, and really just wanted to say.. i suppose that can also be for the third time, that i was hoping we wouldnt need it anymore22:45
holsteini look forward to testing with my hardware.. all the cases i have, with both kernels22:45
SonikkuAmericaAnd look what I started :P lol22:45
zequenceSonikkuAmerica: We were talking about something esle22:45
SonikkuAmericaoh22:46
zequenceI'm looking at adding linux-rt back into the repos22:46
SonikkuAmericaAt any rate, I'd say my work with that is done for now :D22:46
zequenceBut, this time, syncing linux-rt from Debian22:46
zequenceholstein: -lowlatency will stay default, since it's the best choice. But, for those who need extra low latency - which I happen to need for live audio processing, then you always have a further choice22:49
zequenceComputer hardware today should have no problem doing what we need it to do for audio processing, but most linux devs aren't focusing on that specific area22:50
zequenceAnd linux is used mostly on servers and embedded devices, not studio desktop machines22:50
zequence-lowlatency makes things a little bit easier for us, but it's not reliable enough at all times22:51
zequenceIn certain situations, you'll get problems22:51
zequence-rt will probably introduce new problems, but that's how things go22:51
zequenceSonikkuAmerica: It's cool that you put some effort in figuring that stuff out anyhow22:53
SonikkuAmerica:D22:53
zequenceSonikkuAmerica: I've seen you on a few times, but whenever I tried to answer you, you had logged out already22:53
SonikkuAmericaYeah, I forgot to put #ubuntustudio-devel on my list of favorites22:54
DalekSeczequence: Just real quick, have you done much in Debian-multimedia?23:40

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