[07:24] <zequence> linux rt built fine in the PPA
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello! At long last I am able to test out the Ubuntu Studio under UEFI situation. I plopped the install into a VM with UEFI in VBox. Now, to see if renaming /EFI/ubuntustudio to /EFI/ubuntu on the ESP works.
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> If it does, I'll let you know.
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> After testing, it seems that it works on its own on UEFI, with Secure Boot disabled.
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> (14.04)
[22:36] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: AFAIK 14.04 works fine with UEFI
[22:36] <zequence> I tried an installtion with Secure boot enabled, and it worked
[22:37] <zequence> The kernel is now merged with linux-generic, and is maintained by canonical
[22:37] <zequence> We didn't have the signed stuff before, but since 14.04 we have what -generic has
[22:38] <zequence> I did my test install on a machine suited for Windows 8. Currently running Debian on it.
[22:39] <holstein> i was hoping we were done with RT kernels...
[22:39] <zequence> it's not a replacement
[22:40] <zequence> if it performs better than -lowlatency, and it's not too tough to maintain, I'm adding it to the repo
[22:40] <holstein> depends on what one is doing
[22:41] <holstein> if it messes with the battery life on a machine that is not doing audio production, thats worse performance.. but im just saying, i was hoping we were done with them by now.. or would be
[22:41] <zequence> if it doesn't break anything, and it serves a purpose, there's no argument against adding it
[22:41] <zequence> especially since it's me who does the work, not Ubuntu Studio
[22:42] <holstein> there are the known breakages..
[22:42] <zequence> -lowlatency is really what -generic should be (-generic is suited for servers)
[22:42] <zequence> But, it's not good enough in all situations
[22:42] <holstein> i mean, i can and might argue against adding it, but, im interested in testing..
[22:42] <holstein> i havent had my firewire device around to test with since 14.04 went stable
[22:42] <zequence> As I said, it's not replacing -lowlatency
[22:43] <zequence> And, if it serves a purpose, there is no argument against adding it, since it's not breaking anything
[22:43] <zequence> i don't need anyones permission to add a kernel into universe, except for the Ubuntu kernel folks
[22:43] <holstein> sure.. but it *does* break some things...
[22:44] <zequence> How? If it's not our default kernel, how would it breakt things?
[22:44] <holstein> zequence: im not saying you need my permission
[22:44] <zequence> For the third time, it's not a replacement
[22:45] <zequence> on the issue of us adding it as an install option (if we get to that point - we're still haven't even done a single test), then it is a matter for Ubuntu Studio
[22:45] <holstein> zequence: sure.. and i understand,, and really just wanted to say.. i suppose that can also be for the third time, that i was hoping we wouldnt need it anymore
[22:45] <holstein> i look forward to testing with my hardware.. all the cases i have, with both kernels
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> And look what I started :P lol
[22:45] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: We were talking about something esle
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> oh
[22:46] <zequence> I'm looking at adding linux-rt back into the repos
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> At any rate, I'd say my work with that is done for now :D
[22:46] <zequence> But, this time, syncing linux-rt from Debian
[22:49] <zequence> holstein: -lowlatency will stay default, since it's the best choice. But, for those who need extra low latency - which I happen to need for live audio processing, then you always have a further choice
[22:50] <zequence> Computer hardware today should have no problem doing what we need it to do for audio processing, but most linux devs aren't focusing on that specific area
[22:50] <zequence> And linux is used mostly on servers and embedded devices, not studio desktop machines
[22:51] <zequence> -lowlatency makes things a little bit easier for us, but it's not reliable enough at all times
[22:51] <zequence> In certain situations, you'll get problems
[22:51] <zequence> -rt will probably introduce new problems, but that's how things go
[22:53] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: It's cool that you put some effort in figuring that stuff out anyhow
[22:53] <SonikkuAmerica> :D
[22:53] <zequence> SonikkuAmerica: I've seen you on a few times, but whenever I tried to answer you, you had logged out already
[22:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, I forgot to put #ubuntustudio-devel on my list of favorites
[23:40] <DalekSec> zequence: Just real quick, have you done much in Debian-multimedia?