=== kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [07:24] linux rt built fine in the PPA [21:08] Hello! At long last I am able to test out the Ubuntu Studio under UEFI situation. I plopped the install into a VM with UEFI in VBox. Now, to see if renaming /EFI/ubuntustudio to /EFI/ubuntu on the ESP works. [21:08] If it does, I'll let you know. [21:29] After testing, it seems that it works on its own on UEFI, with Secure Boot disabled. [21:29] (14.04) [22:36] SonikkuAmerica: AFAIK 14.04 works fine with UEFI [22:36] I tried an installtion with Secure boot enabled, and it worked [22:37] The kernel is now merged with linux-generic, and is maintained by canonical [22:37] We didn't have the signed stuff before, but since 14.04 we have what -generic has [22:38] I did my test install on a machine suited for Windows 8. Currently running Debian on it. [22:39] i was hoping we were done with RT kernels... [22:39] it's not a replacement [22:40] if it performs better than -lowlatency, and it's not too tough to maintain, I'm adding it to the repo [22:40] depends on what one is doing [22:41] if it messes with the battery life on a machine that is not doing audio production, thats worse performance.. but im just saying, i was hoping we were done with them by now.. or would be [22:41] if it doesn't break anything, and it serves a purpose, there's no argument against adding it [22:41] especially since it's me who does the work, not Ubuntu Studio [22:42] there are the known breakages.. [22:42] -lowlatency is really what -generic should be (-generic is suited for servers) [22:42] But, it's not good enough in all situations [22:42] i mean, i can and might argue against adding it, but, im interested in testing.. [22:42] i havent had my firewire device around to test with since 14.04 went stable [22:42] As I said, it's not replacing -lowlatency [22:43] And, if it serves a purpose, there is no argument against adding it, since it's not breaking anything [22:43] i don't need anyones permission to add a kernel into universe, except for the Ubuntu kernel folks [22:43] sure.. but it *does* break some things... [22:44] How? If it's not our default kernel, how would it breakt things? [22:44] zequence: im not saying you need my permission [22:44] For the third time, it's not a replacement [22:45] on the issue of us adding it as an install option (if we get to that point - we're still haven't even done a single test), then it is a matter for Ubuntu Studio [22:45] zequence: sure.. and i understand,, and really just wanted to say.. i suppose that can also be for the third time, that i was hoping we wouldnt need it anymore [22:45] i look forward to testing with my hardware.. all the cases i have, with both kernels [22:45] And look what I started :P lol [22:45] SonikkuAmerica: We were talking about something esle [22:46] oh [22:46] I'm looking at adding linux-rt back into the repos [22:46] At any rate, I'd say my work with that is done for now :D [22:46] But, this time, syncing linux-rt from Debian [22:49] holstein: -lowlatency will stay default, since it's the best choice. But, for those who need extra low latency - which I happen to need for live audio processing, then you always have a further choice [22:50] Computer hardware today should have no problem doing what we need it to do for audio processing, but most linux devs aren't focusing on that specific area [22:50] And linux is used mostly on servers and embedded devices, not studio desktop machines [22:51] -lowlatency makes things a little bit easier for us, but it's not reliable enough at all times [22:51] In certain situations, you'll get problems [22:51] -rt will probably introduce new problems, but that's how things go [22:53] SonikkuAmerica: It's cool that you put some effort in figuring that stuff out anyhow [22:53] :D [22:53] SonikkuAmerica: I've seen you on a few times, but whenever I tried to answer you, you had logged out already [22:54] Yeah, I forgot to put #ubuntustudio-devel on my list of favorites [23:40] zequence: Just real quick, have you done much in Debian-multimedia?