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whowhat@search lafevers06:02
mappsheh whats he doing06:03
MartijnVdSacting like this is an ebook piracy channel06:09
mappsah06:15
ali1234anyone else noticed that page up and page down don't work properly in firefox 29?09:17
MartijnVdSI don't use firefox, but what's wrong with pgup/dn?09:17
ali1234you;re at the top of the page and you press page down09:18
ali1234it goes down 1 page09:18
ali1234then you press it again and it goes back to the top of the page09:18
ali1234forever09:18
ali1234page up is the same, except from the bottom09:19
ali1234also home/end are broken09:19
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:27
popeyali1234: works fine here10:15
ali1234try on youtube front page...10:16
ali1234bug 132045010:16
lubotu3bug 1320450 in firefox (Ubuntu) "page up/page down/home/end don't work properly in firefox 29" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132045010:16
popeyali1234: works if you click somewhere on the page then pg up/down10:37
ali1234sometimes it does, sometimes it gets stuck at the top or bottom10:37
popeyi think the focus goes to the search box10:37
popeywhich defeats the navigation buttons10:37
ali1234at first10:37
ali1234but even after that it can still get stuck in different ways10:37
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:49
aquariusthat'd be "afternoon" ;)11:49
bigcalmRight now, I'm surprised that it's night night. I feel that I've done far too much already today11:51
bigcalmAnd in a while, I'll be driving to Leicester. Is there anything there?11:51
aquariusleicester? Walkers crisps headquarters11:53
bigcalmExciting11:53
aquariusnot really11:53
aquariusmy ex-wife, too :)11:53
aquariusother than that, not a lot11:53
bigcalmWe're attending a birthday bash for a friend of my wife. That's not until 7pm, so wondering what we'll do in the mean time11:54
bigcalmDoh, sorry man11:54
aquariusit's not a very exciting city. Every time I've been there it's been for things like shopping, for which Highcross is a perfectly adequate big soulless shopping centre :)11:54
aquariusif you like rugby, Leicester Tigers are one of the best teams in the country11:55
bigcalmI thought it was the Worcester Warriors11:56
popeyali1234: hows the install going?12:13
popeyer aquarius12:13
dutchiebigcalm: warriors won 1 league game last season :P12:26
dutchieoh, it was 2 in the end12:31
slitheringhi there ubuntu lovers13:18
slitheringyou're all wrong13:18
slitheringDebian is the one and only god13:18
daftykinsand you're a spaniard in a UK channel13:18
daftykins:D13:18
slitheringany problem13:18
slitheringyou're still wrong13:18
daftykinsyep, you should be trolling your kinsfolk13:18
slitheringI'm on a crusado all over the world13:19
daftykinsi see13:19
slitheringfor Debian, the truly king of the free OS13:19
slitheringIt is not about trolling13:19
daftykinsthat doesn't even make sense, ignoring your poor English13:19
slitheringthere are arguments13:20
slitheringsudo for everything13:20
slitheringwhat's wrong with su -13:20
daftykinsplease go away.13:21
slitheringoooh it's for your own safety13:21
slitheringok, but to be honest13:21
slitheringI'm currently using13:21
slitheringguess what?13:21
slitheringBacktrack, ubuntu based system13:22
slitheringand using xchat with root permissions13:22
slitheringas the fool I am13:22
slitheringMWAHAHAHA13:22
slitheringI hope you've enjoyed me13:22
aquariushmph.14:22
aquariusI'd like to remap my Caps Lock key to produce the letter "r".14:22
aquariusAfter much reading about how this *used* to work, I discovered that the world is xkb these days14:22
aquariusso I edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/gb as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions to map caps lock to r14:22
aquariusand that works brilliantly, at the login screen14:23
aquariusbut it doesn't work once I'm logged in!14:23
aquariuswhat do I have to do then? Anybody got any idea?14:23
* daftykins attempts to make french toast15:32
diddledandaftykins, just leave a female out in the sun and it'll soon toast15:37
diddledansunburnt frenchies ftw15:38
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/yckmqht2a13izpg/AACjDclE1jHNeNQS24N1kJbDa15:39
daftykinso015:39
MartijnVdSwentelteefjes!15:39
diddledanwhy do people still think it's possible to prevent php software from being copied?15:41
diddledanor modified15:41
MartijnVdSor h4x0red15:43
diddledanooh, 12.10 went EOL yesterday15:46
daftykinsMartijnVdS: bless you15:47
daftykins;)15:47
MartijnVdSdaftykins: pwned then15:48
daftykinshmm?15:48
daftykinsmy HTPC is based off 12.10, it'll need upgrading soon then15:48
penguin42diddledan: Ooh, I'd better force my dad to upgrade18:29
shaunoI want to finally upgrade my little lucid vps this weekend :(20:17
daftykins:D20:17
mappsfabric or xoyo21:20
mappschoices choices21:20
AzelphurI pushed version 2 of my pushbullet library, can send notifications (notes, links, files, etc) to your smartphone (iOS or Android) from the command line, or as a Python library21:23
Azelphurhttps://github.com/Azelphur/pyPushBullet :D21:23
daftykinsi think it's brownie o'clock21:47
mappsits too hot to do much here21:47
mapps15c!!21:47
daftykinshehe21:48
daftykinsyeah think it headed to 20 here today yet again21:48
mappsyea21:49
mappsits crazy hot21:49
penguin42anyone good with avconv/ffmpeg22:45
penguin42I'm trying to encode a load of images and have a choice of bad options22:45
penguin42I can encode slowly with vp8, or fast with mpeg4, but the mpeg4 fails to decode22:45
mappsnot i :)22:47
mappsvp8?22:47
penguin42I think it's the google derived webm stuff22:47
daftykinspenguin42: i'd bet some of the fiends in #xbmc might be good, often pretty idle in there though22:49
penguin42thanks, I'll try there if I don't get any further - it's a little cheaky since it's not xbmc22:50
mappsah ok22:51
mappswhy do u need to encode them22:52
penguin42it's cctv, captured from a dumb camera that just spits out jpg's22:52
daftykinsah, they're a lot more relaxed than ubuntu channels ;)22:52
mappswhats wrong with jpgs;p22:52
penguin42mapps: Size!22:52
mappsah ok22:52
mappsthought maybe something else22:53
mappsand lol daftykins i love how strict the chans are22:53
mapps'mind the language22:53
mapps'no off topic'22:53
mapps'go to #offtopic' bla bla22:53
penguin42hmm, got mp4 working but the quality is erm....awful22:53
daftykinsyou vill pledge allegiance to ubuntu ja?22:53
mapps;]22:53
mappsi moved my desktop and netbook today22:54
daftykinspenguin42: mp4's more a container, what're the codecs in use?22:54
mappspreviously had my laptop on my tv stand and id be hunched over as its lower than a desk heh22:54
penguin42daftykins: mpeg4 I think, -vcodec mpeg422:54
mappsnow  swapped places :D22:54
daftykinsdoes it support profiles then? for quality levels22:55
penguin42daftykins: NMot sure yet, the mp4 one I'd be happy to give it more CPU on, and if necessery more bits; but the wp8 one looks great it's just so slow it's almost real time22:55
daftykinsi'm hoping i can score a free desk and chair soon \o/ be really cool to have a separate desk to do my laptop surgery on :D22:56
penguin42the mpeg4 encoder doesn't seem to have many options22:58
daftykinshrmm22:59
daftykinsand no quality levels on vp8?22:59
penguin42hmm there are a load of 'flags' but it's a little difficult to guess which to try23:01
penguin42(and I've not persuaded h.263 to work yet)23:02
penguin42ooh, libvpx has a -cpu-used value23:02
penguin42and a -cpu-used23:03
penguin42my camera generates about 5fps, but I want a few to be able to run at the same time, so the 81fps that the mp4 codec can do is great - the 5 the vp8 was doing is useless, also with --cpu-used 3  it's managing 16fps - lets see what the quality comes out like23:05
mappsis this round your house?23:06
penguin42nod23:07
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mappshow long do you store it for23:08
penguin42ah, haven't got into that yet - but had to stretch the partition a bit already :-)23:10
penguin42I can't do motion detection of where the camera is - I tried it23:10
mappsso you just gonna record 24/723:10
penguin42nod23:11
mappsalso unless im misunderstanding are you talking about still images and not video23:11
penguin42well, it's 5fps continous - so what's your definition of video; it's currently jpg, I'm trying to turn that into video23:11
mappsthe cameras hooked up to a dedicated machine running i assume linux for this?23:11
penguin42not quite dedicated, and yes Linux23:12
mappssory for the qs just curious:)23:12
penguin42it's a fanless celeron, so not much compute23:12
mappsah23:12
penguin42(modern fanless celeron - 2x1.1GHz, SSE4.2)23:12
mappsah cool23:12
mappsguess it doesnt get too hot or anything23:13
penguin42no, CPU was hitting 49C doing encoding23:14
penguin42there is a large, slow fan in the PSU, temperature controlled and I think it's almost never on23:14
daftykinsmosfets are most efficient at a high temp as far as i understand it23:16
penguin42hmm, I thought you got thermal runaway23:16
daftykinsno idea :D23:17
supergluehow do I configure xchat-gnome not to auto-join this channel?23:24
mappscant remember took me ages23:25
mappshttp://xchat.org/faq/#q2323:25
superglueI have a nasty feeling I rebuilt it last time23:25
daftykinsare you trying to say you don't like us? :(23:26
supergluemapps: thanks23:28
penguin42hmm right23:29
penguin42nice avconv -framerate 5 -i %03d-capture.jpg -vcodec libvpx -cpu-used 10 -threads 223:29
penguin4253fps on a 1.1GHz celery23:29
penguin42that'll do nicely23:30
penguin42and at 200kbps I could offsite that23:30
daftykins:D23:39
daftykinscrikey, what gen celeron?23:39
penguin42modern23:40
penguin42bah ark.intel.com is broken23:41
daftykins:(23:43
penguin42http://ark.intel.com/products/56056/Intel-Celeron-Processor-847-2M-Cache-1_10-GHz23:44
penguin42it's just the search that's broken23:44
penguin42daftykins: Fanless, and very cheap23:44
daftykinsah-har 847, BGA? so comes as part of boards? or is it a laptop? :)23:45
penguin42right, it's on the board - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-c847ms-e33-intel-nm70-intel-celeron-847-ddr3-sata-iii-pcie-20-%28x16%29-d-sub-hdmi-matx23:46
penguin42daftykins: So that's #53 for a board, including cpu and heatsink that has a few PCI/PCIe slots23:47
penguin42I think it's also used in the lower end NUCs23:47
daftykinswow that's cheap :D23:47
penguin42nod23:47
daftykinsyou could spend more on the RAM for it, haha23:47
penguin42yeh, I can't remember what my final bill came out as23:48
daftykinsi'm really quite looking forward to how good this £290 Dell optiplex thing i ordered for my parents, will be23:49
daftykinsfinally time to ditch the WinXP running AMD Athlon XP and nforce2 setup23:49
penguin42it was 165.53 inc (excluding a case/keyboard since I put it into an existing one, but including PSU, 2GB RAM, and a bottom end SSD)23:49
daftykinsah-har23:49
penguin42it's also used on some of the NUC boards, and I think there might be a newer version of that CPU now - but I wanted a board with a bunch of slots23:51
daftykinsNUCs do look very tempting machines23:52
penguin42I'm not covinced the BIOS in this board will allow me to run virtualised stuff23:52
penguin42hmm, maybe it will - I see vmx in the cpuflags23:53
daftykinsooh yes VT on a celeron is a surprise23:54
daftykinsin fairness i run two VMs atop my pentium dual-core file server and i don't even notice it doesn't have VT23:54
penguin42right, and it's just brand naming differences23:54
daftykinsi thought it would have some actual practical implications to context switching23:56
penguin42oh, sorry I mean brand differences between pentium/celeron/etc23:56
daftykinsah, i did wonder23:58

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