[06:02] <whowhat> @search lafevers
[06:03] <mapps> heh whats he doing
[06:09] <MartijnVdS> acting like this is an ebook piracy channel
[06:15] <mapps> ah
[09:17] <ali1234> anyone else noticed that page up and page down don't work properly in firefox 29?
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> I don't use firefox, but what's wrong with pgup/dn?
[09:18] <ali1234> you;re at the top of the page and you press page down
[09:18] <ali1234> it goes down 1 page
[09:18] <ali1234> then you press it again and it goes back to the top of the page
[09:18] <ali1234> forever
[09:19] <ali1234> page up is the same, except from the bottom
[09:19] <ali1234> also home/end are broken
[09:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:15] <popey> ali1234: works fine here
[10:16] <ali1234> try on youtube front page...
[10:16] <ali1234> bug 1320450
[10:37] <popey> ali1234: works if you click somewhere on the page then pg up/down
[10:37] <ali1234> sometimes it does, sometimes it gets stuck at the top or bottom
[10:37] <popey> i think the focus goes to the search box
[10:37] <popey> which defeats the navigation buttons
[10:37] <ali1234> at first
[10:37] <ali1234> but even after that it can still get stuck in different ways
[11:49] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:49] <aquarius> that'd be "afternoon" ;)
[11:51] <bigcalm> Right now, I'm surprised that it's night night. I feel that I've done far too much already today
[11:51] <bigcalm> And in a while, I'll be driving to Leicester. Is there anything there?
[11:53] <aquarius> leicester? Walkers crisps headquarters
[11:53] <bigcalm> Exciting
[11:53] <aquarius> not really
[11:53] <aquarius> my ex-wife, too :)
[11:53] <aquarius> other than that, not a lot
[11:54] <bigcalm> We're attending a birthday bash for a friend of my wife. That's not until 7pm, so wondering what we'll do in the mean time
[11:54] <bigcalm> Doh, sorry man
[11:54] <aquarius> it's not a very exciting city. Every time I've been there it's been for things like shopping, for which Highcross is a perfectly adequate big soulless shopping centre :)
[11:55] <aquarius> if you like rugby, Leicester Tigers are one of the best teams in the country
[11:56] <bigcalm> I thought it was the Worcester Warriors
[12:13] <popey> ali1234: hows the install going?
[12:13] <popey> er aquarius
[12:26] <dutchie> bigcalm: warriors won 1 league game last season :P
[12:31] <dutchie> oh, it was 2 in the end
[13:18] <slithering> hi there ubuntu lovers
[13:18] <slithering> you're all wrong
[13:18] <slithering> Debian is the one and only god
[13:18] <daftykins> and you're a spaniard in a UK channel
[13:18] <daftykins> :D
[13:18] <slithering> any problem
[13:18] <slithering> you're still wrong
[13:18] <daftykins> yep, you should be trolling your kinsfolk
[13:19] <slithering> I'm on a crusado all over the world
[13:19] <daftykins> i see
[13:19] <slithering> for Debian, the truly king of the free OS
[13:19] <slithering> It is not about trolling
[13:19] <daftykins> that doesn't even make sense, ignoring your poor English
[13:20] <slithering> there are arguments
[13:20] <slithering> sudo for everything
[13:20] <slithering> what's wrong with su -
[13:21] <daftykins> please go away.
[13:21] <slithering> oooh it's for your own safety
[13:21] <slithering> ok, but to be honest
[13:21] <slithering> I'm currently using
[13:21] <slithering> guess what?
[13:22] <slithering> Backtrack, ubuntu based system
[13:22] <slithering> and using xchat with root permissions
[13:22] <slithering> as the fool I am
[13:22] <slithering> MWAHAHAHA
[13:22] <slithering> I hope you've enjoyed me
[14:22] <aquarius> hmph.
[14:22] <aquarius> I'd like to remap my Caps Lock key to produce the letter "r".
[14:22] <aquarius> After much reading about how this *used* to work, I discovered that the world is xkb these days
[14:22] <aquarius> so I edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/gb as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3A%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions to map caps lock to r
[14:23] <aquarius> and that works brilliantly, at the login screen
[14:23] <aquarius> but it doesn't work once I'm logged in!
[14:23] <aquarius> what do I have to do then? Anybody got any idea?
[15:32]  * daftykins attempts to make french toast
[15:37] <diddledan> daftykins, just leave a female out in the sun and it'll soon toast
[15:38] <diddledan> sunburnt frenchies ftw
[15:39] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yckmqht2a13izpg/AACjDclE1jHNeNQS24N1kJbDa
[15:39] <daftykins> o0
[15:39] <MartijnVdS> wentelteefjes!
[15:41] <diddledan> why do people still think it's possible to prevent php software from being copied?
[15:41] <diddledan> or modified
[15:43] <MartijnVdS> or h4x0red
[15:46] <diddledan> ooh, 12.10 went EOL yesterday
[15:47] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: bless you
[15:47] <daftykins> ;)
[15:48] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: pwned then
[15:48] <daftykins> hmm?
[15:48] <daftykins> my HTPC is based off 12.10, it'll need upgrading soon then
[18:29] <penguin42> diddledan: Ooh, I'd better force my dad to upgrade
[20:17] <shauno> I want to finally upgrade my little lucid vps this weekend :(
[20:17] <daftykins> :D
[21:20] <mapps> fabric or xoyo
[21:20] <mapps> choices choices
[21:23] <Azelphur> I pushed version 2 of my pushbullet library, can send notifications (notes, links, files, etc) to your smartphone (iOS or Android) from the command line, or as a Python library
[21:23] <Azelphur> https://github.com/Azelphur/pyPushBullet :D
[21:47] <daftykins> i think it's brownie o'clock
[21:47] <mapps> its too hot to do much here
[21:47] <mapps> 15c!!
[21:48] <daftykins> hehe
[21:48] <daftykins> yeah think it headed to 20 here today yet again
[21:49] <mapps> yea
[21:49] <mapps> its crazy hot
[22:45] <penguin42> anyone good with avconv/ffmpeg
[22:45] <penguin42> I'm trying to encode a load of images and have a choice of bad options
[22:45] <penguin42> I can encode slowly with vp8, or fast with mpeg4, but the mpeg4 fails to decode
[22:47] <mapps> not i :)
[22:47] <mapps> vp8?
[22:47] <penguin42> I think it's the google derived webm stuff
[22:49] <daftykins> penguin42: i'd bet some of the fiends in #xbmc might be good, often pretty idle in there though
[22:50] <penguin42> thanks, I'll try there if I don't get any further - it's a little cheaky since it's not xbmc
[22:51] <mapps> ah ok
[22:52] <mapps> why do u need to encode them
[22:52] <penguin42> it's cctv, captured from a dumb camera that just spits out jpg's
[22:52] <daftykins> ah, they're a lot more relaxed than ubuntu channels ;)
[22:52] <mapps> whats wrong with jpgs;p
[22:52] <penguin42> mapps: Size!
[22:52] <mapps> ah ok
[22:53] <mapps> thought maybe something else
[22:53] <mapps> and lol daftykins i love how strict the chans are
[22:53] <mapps> 'mind the language
[22:53] <mapps> 'no off topic'
[22:53] <mapps> 'go to #offtopic' bla bla
[22:53] <penguin42> hmm, got mp4 working but the quality is erm....awful
[22:53] <daftykins> you vill pledge allegiance to ubuntu ja?
[22:53] <mapps> ;]
[22:54] <mapps> i moved my desktop and netbook today
[22:54] <daftykins> penguin42: mp4's more a container, what're the codecs in use?
[22:54] <mapps> previously had my laptop on my tv stand and id be hunched over as its lower than a desk heh
[22:54] <penguin42> daftykins: mpeg4 I think, -vcodec mpeg4
[22:54] <mapps> now  swapped places :D
[22:55] <daftykins> does it support profiles then? for quality levels
[22:55] <penguin42> daftykins: NMot sure yet, the mp4 one I'd be happy to give it more CPU on, and if necessery more bits; but the wp8 one looks great it's just so slow it's almost real time
[22:56] <daftykins> i'm hoping i can score a free desk and chair soon \o/ be really cool to have a separate desk to do my laptop surgery on :D
[22:58] <penguin42> the mpeg4 encoder doesn't seem to have many options
[22:59] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:59] <daftykins> and no quality levels on vp8?
[23:01] <penguin42> hmm there are a load of 'flags' but it's a little difficult to guess which to try
[23:02] <penguin42> (and I've not persuaded h.263 to work yet)
[23:02] <penguin42> ooh, libvpx has a -cpu-used value
[23:03] <penguin42> and a -cpu-used
[23:05] <penguin42> my camera generates about 5fps, but I want a few to be able to run at the same time, so the 81fps that the mp4 codec can do is great - the 5 the vp8 was doing is useless, also with --cpu-used 3  it's managing 16fps - lets see what the quality comes out like
[23:06] <mapps> is this round your house?
[23:07] <penguin42> nod
[23:08] <mapps> how long do you store it for
[23:10] <penguin42> ah, haven't got into that yet - but had to stretch the partition a bit already :-)
[23:10] <penguin42> I can't do motion detection of where the camera is - I tried it
[23:10] <mapps> so you just gonna record 24/7
[23:11] <penguin42> nod
[23:11] <mapps> also unless im misunderstanding are you talking about still images and not video
[23:11] <penguin42> well, it's 5fps continous - so what's your definition of video; it's currently jpg, I'm trying to turn that into video
[23:11] <mapps> the cameras hooked up to a dedicated machine running i assume linux for this?
[23:12] <penguin42> not quite dedicated, and yes Linux
[23:12] <mapps> sory for the qs just curious:)
[23:12] <penguin42> it's a fanless celeron, so not much compute
[23:12] <mapps> ah
[23:12] <penguin42> (modern fanless celeron - 2x1.1GHz, SSE4.2)
[23:12] <mapps> ah cool
[23:13] <mapps> guess it doesnt get too hot or anything
[23:14] <penguin42> no, CPU was hitting 49C doing encoding
[23:14] <penguin42> there is a large, slow fan in the PSU, temperature controlled and I think it's almost never on
[23:16] <daftykins> mosfets are most efficient at a high temp as far as i understand it
[23:16] <penguin42> hmm, I thought you got thermal runaway
[23:17] <daftykins> no idea :D
[23:24] <superglue> how do I configure xchat-gnome not to auto-join this channel?
[23:25] <mapps> cant remember took me ages
[23:25] <mapps> http://xchat.org/faq/#q23
[23:25] <superglue> I have a nasty feeling I rebuilt it last time
[23:26] <daftykins> are you trying to say you don't like us? :(
[23:28] <superglue> mapps: thanks
[23:29] <penguin42> hmm right
[23:29] <penguin42> nice avconv -framerate 5 -i %03d-capture.jpg -vcodec libvpx -cpu-used 10 -threads 2
[23:29] <penguin42> 53fps on a 1.1GHz celery
[23:30] <penguin42> that'll do nicely
[23:30] <penguin42> and at 200kbps I could offsite that
[23:39] <daftykins> :D
[23:39] <daftykins> crikey, what gen celeron?
[23:40] <penguin42> modern
[23:41] <penguin42> bah ark.intel.com is broken
[23:43] <daftykins> :(
[23:44] <penguin42> http://ark.intel.com/products/56056/Intel-Celeron-Processor-847-2M-Cache-1_10-GHz
[23:44] <penguin42> it's just the search that's broken
[23:44] <penguin42> daftykins: Fanless, and very cheap
[23:45] <daftykins> ah-har 847, BGA? so comes as part of boards? or is it a laptop? :)
[23:46] <penguin42> right, it's on the board - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-c847ms-e33-intel-nm70-intel-celeron-847-ddr3-sata-iii-pcie-20-%28x16%29-d-sub-hdmi-matx
[23:47] <penguin42> daftykins: So that's #53 for a board, including cpu and heatsink that has a few PCI/PCIe slots
[23:47] <penguin42> I think it's also used in the lower end NUCs
[23:47] <daftykins> wow that's cheap :D
[23:47] <penguin42> nod
[23:47] <daftykins> you could spend more on the RAM for it, haha
[23:48] <penguin42> yeh, I can't remember what my final bill came out as
[23:49] <daftykins> i'm really quite looking forward to how good this £290 Dell optiplex thing i ordered for my parents, will be
[23:49] <daftykins> finally time to ditch the WinXP running AMD Athlon XP and nforce2 setup
[23:49] <penguin42> it was 165.53 inc (excluding a case/keyboard since I put it into an existing one, but including PSU, 2GB RAM, and a bottom end SSD)
[23:49] <daftykins> ah-har
[23:51] <penguin42> it's also used on some of the NUC boards, and I think there might be a newer version of that CPU now - but I wanted a board with a bunch of slots
[23:52] <daftykins> NUCs do look very tempting machines
[23:52] <penguin42> I'm not covinced the BIOS in this board will allow me to run virtualised stuff
[23:53] <penguin42> hmm, maybe it will - I see vmx in the cpuflags
[23:54] <daftykins> ooh yes VT on a celeron is a surprise
[23:54] <daftykins> in fairness i run two VMs atop my pentium dual-core file server and i don't even notice it doesn't have VT
[23:54] <penguin42> right, and it's just brand naming differences
[23:56] <daftykins> i thought it would have some actual practical implications to context switching
[23:56] <penguin42> oh, sorry I mean brand differences between pentium/celeron/etc
[23:58] <daftykins> ah, i did wonder