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hylianPlayer: well, i came up lemons. but i launchpad bugged it, so hopefully we will get an answer. thanks for the help!00:02
FreederI finally got my main drive to boot, but it says 'tmp drive not ready or missing'00:06
Playerhylian, no problem, sorry we couldn't sort the issue out!  if you really want to try out MATE try using a different display manager.00:06
Playernot sure if GDM still works or not00:06
Freederi'm in manual recovery mode... what should I be doing?00:06
PlayerFreeder, it's not mounting a directory for /tmp/00:06
FreederI don't see /tmp listed in df -h00:06
Freederthis is the worst upgrade I've ever gone through, heh00:06
PlayerFreeder, do ls / and see if there's a folder called tmp00:06
Freederno clue why all this stuff magically stops working00:06
PlayerFreeder, how did you upgrade?  Was it Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04?00:07
Freederyes its there00:07
Playerhmmm00:07
Freeder10.04 to 12.0400:07
PlayerFreeder, Oh, so very outdated hahah.00:07
hylianPlayer: i like lightdm. i just wanted to see what improvements their was. I was just using in 12.04. thanks again00:07
Freederit wasnt when this upgrade path was created00:07
PlayerYeah I think the jump from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 was the most extreme.00:07
Bashing-ompaperman: Duak booting windows ? Did you try as the advisement directed ?00:07
Bashing-omdual*00:07
subhub-ncquit00:07
Freederso how should i go about getting /tmp back in there00:07
Freederits not in fstab... isnt that where tmp gets mounted from?00:08
PlayerFreeder, check the permissions on the folder00:08
Freeder77700:08
Playerokay00:08
PlayerFreeder, /tmp/ isn't mounted for me on my Ubuntu VPS either00:09
Playerby that I mean it doesn't show up in df -h00:09
Freederis it listed in your fstab?00:10
PlayerFreeder, No.  Server's 13.10.00:11
papermanBashing-om, yes00:12
Freederok. so where how do I get /tmp to mount? :)00:12
Freeders/where/ /00:12
PlayerFreeder, I may be misreading my fstab wrong.  I see a third line that says "00:13
Playernone  /run/shm    tmpfs   defaults    0    000:13
Player"00:13
Freederthats different00:14
Bashing-ompaperman: Loks to be a Windows problem, in that Windows has a lock on the partition - not shut down properly from Windows. What does a Windows file system check report ?00:14
Freedertmpfs is a way to mount a filesystem in temp memory, iirc00:14
Freederso thats just a memory partition. I think.00:14
Freederanyway, not /tmp00:14
PlayerFreeder, makes sense.00:14
PlayerI'm trying to find where these things are declared, I think it's an environment variable.00:15
BurritoPlayer, filesystem mountings are not environment variables00:18
Burritoit's all in /etc/fstab00:18
PlayerNot /tmp, apparently.00:19
Burritoand the UUIDs are listed under the command blkid00:19
Burritothat means it's not mounted, but a conventional folder. IIRC...00:19
BurritoWhich is weird00:19
BurritoBecause obviously Freeder's system is trying to mount /tmp/00:19
Freederwell, ubuntu knows it needs it00:20
Freederand its not there00:20
Freederand iirc, its mounted via fstab00:20
Freederbut thats an assumption00:20
Freederand I don't see it listed in my fstab00:20
cast/tmp can be a directory under /, surely?00:20
Burritoyes00:20
Jordan_UFreeder: Could you please give a summary of your problem again?00:20
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BurritoFreeder, are you sure you're looking at the right /etc/fstab file? I've made the mistake before where I modified the /etc/fstab file of the live system I was fixing my real system from... instead of the actual file :P00:21
FreederBooting ubuntu, it says "the disk drive for /tmp is not ready or present"00:21
Freedersomething similar to that00:21
PlayerBurrito, he's in recovery mode.00:21
Burritoah00:22
Freederand gives me the option to wait, or manual repair, which drops me into what looks like a recovery shell, perhaps00:22
Jordan_UFreeder: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab .00:22
FreederNo internet there :P00:22
Freederbut I can tell you there's no line mentioning /tmp in it00:22
Jordan_UFreeder: sneakernet.00:22
FreederI don't know how you want me to do that, short of retyping it00:23
BurritoMaybe it's a permissions thing...? http://tech.enekochan.com/2014/03/20/ubuntu-fix-the-disk-drive-for-tmp-is-not-ready-yet-or-not-present/00:23
PlayerFreeder, are you usnig the machine directly or SSH'd to it?00:24
FreederBurrito, its 77700:24
Freederdirect connect00:24
PlayerAh, okay.00:25
Jordan_UFreeder: It looks like often on Ubuntu 12.04 that can be a spurious message: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/109179200:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1091792 in mountall (Ubuntu Quantal) "The disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present" [Low,Triaged]00:25
Jordan_UFreeder: What happens if you just wait?00:26
PlayerDid that bug ever get fixed, or has it just not occured in any of the releases since?00:26
FreederI waited about 3 minutes and nothing happened00:26
FreederI just rebooted a minute ago, we can see what happens00:26
Jordan_UPlayer: It was fixed in 13.04 and up.00:27
PlayerJordan_U, thanks00:27
PlayerFreeder, doesn't the prompt give you the option to skip?  I don't think it would boot but still..?00:27
PlayerFreeder, or are we somehow thinking of different error prompts?00:28
FreederJordan_U: when it says spurious, does that imply I just have to wait longer, or just keep rebooting until it goes away?00:28
Freederor S to skip mounting00:28
Jordan_UPlayer: Note that the bug that was fixed was incorrectly warning when nothing is wrong. If something is actually wrong (which, since waiting doesn't allow booting to continue, is seems is the case) then you're hitting a different bug. It's also possible that you're hitting that bug and another completely unrelated one, i.e. your booting problem has nothing to do with the spurious message about /tmp/.00:28
FreederPlayer, yes, there's a skip option00:28
FreederJordan_U: can you confirm that tmp is or is not mounted via fstab?00:29
FreederIf it is, I have no /tmp entry line00:29
Jordan_UFreeder: If there is no entry for /tmp/ in your /etc/fstab then it's just a normal directory.00:30
PlayerWell the article Burrito linked said that "explicitly adding the /tmp to fstab solves the problem" and also gives commands to delete and remake the /tmp folder.00:30
Freederwould that be a cause then?00:30
PlayerFreeder, if you don't have "tmpfs           /tmp            tmpfs   defaults            0       0" in your fstab then yes.00:31
PlayerI believe so.00:31
FreederPlasmastar, I believe that does the ram-mount again00:31
FreederPlayer*'00:31
Jordan_UFreeder: What would be a cause of boot failing, or what would be a cause of that message being shown?00:31
FreederJordan_U: so I'm sitting here staring at this screen, saying its not ready or present. What should I do? I can skip, or manual recovery00:31
ahmadgbgHi guys, i have a ubuntu server and i wonder what is the best way to back it up? NAS with UPS?00:31
Jordan_UFreeder: Try skip, see what happens.00:32
PlayerFreeder, try skipping, if you can boot then it's the bug Jordan_U mentioned above.00:32
vaskaloidisHey I keep getting an error with VSFTP saying incorrect username or password - I am using local logons and the credentials are correct.. any ideas?00:32
Playeralso, Freeder, yeah but that article says it fixed the issue and the comments suggest it works so worth a shot?00:32
Playervaskaloidis, where are the logins kept?00:33
vaskaloidislocal ubuntu system logons00:33
vaskaloidisadded withthe Adduser command, Player00:33
vaskaloidisSo i am assuming the /etc/passwd file Player…00:34
Playervaskaloidis, did you set $HOME folders for these accounts?00:34
vaskaloidisI executed a usermod -d command for one of the users, I set the directory to /var/www/hiswebsite/00:35
vaskaloidisif thats what u mean Player00:35
Playervaskaloidis, just that one?  and you can't log into that one?00:36
Playervaskaloidis, did you add him to any groups?00:36
vaskaloidisyes and I cant login with any accounts - even my admin account - didnt add him to any groups Player00:36
vaskaloidisPlayer should I add him to any groups?00:36
Freederok, it looks to be up ok00:38
FreederSkip did the trick00:38
Freederthanks00:39
Freeder'course, I can't get network connectivity outside of the LAN now00:39
Freederbut its a start00:39
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Guest95749Hi to all!!00:40
Guest95749hi uewdl00:40
Bashing-omGuest95749: Hello, to you .00:40
Guest95749Hi greetings from argentina00:40
Guest95749bye00:40
Freederwow00:42
Freeder12.04 really seems to suck, heh00:42
Freedertotally broke the network manager00:42
Playervaskaloidis, Sorry I had to step away for a minute.00:43
Playervaskaloidis, Yes, you should add him to groups, I'm not sure what the default ones that are assigned on Ubuntu-desktop are, infact I was about to ask that here.00:43
FreederWhere is 'history' in software center ?00:43
PlayerFreeder, does the message pop up when you reboot?00:44
Freederreading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200142100:44
Freederwhich message, Player?00:44
vaskaloidisIts ubuntu Server Player00:44
PlayerFreeder, the one about /tmp00:44
Playervaskaloidis, I know, but there are default groups assigned to user accounts when you make them through GUI in Ubuntu desktop.  I actually need to know what those are too since I'm setting up users on my own Ubuntu server.00:45
FreederYes, it still popped up, but i hit skip00:45
Playervaskaloidis, you can still log in as root, right?00:45
Freederit booted00:45
vaskaloidisnot into FTP - it says everybodys username and passwords are incorrect00:45
PlayerFreeder, awesome, if you want to get rid of the message I'd try doing what that site suggested and add /tmp to fstab as tmpfs00:45
Playervaskaloidis, I think I know what you're problem is, FTP logins=/=UNIX user logins00:46
vaskaloidisyou can allow it in VSFTP config00:46
Playervaskaloidis, really?  hmm, did you say that you could or could not log into the accounts you made in the CLI?00:47
Playervaskaloidis, I mean, can you log into them in the CLI.00:48
poopymcpoopertonhey guya00:52
poopymcpoopertonguys00:52
poopymcpoopertonhow can I completely remove the recent tab?00:52
poopymcpoopertonI want to get rid of the recent places tab00:52
bdav|irccloudthe recent tab in what?00:53
poopymcpoopertongui00:53
poopymcpoopertonver00:53
poopymcpoopertonrecent places00:54
poopymcpoopertonunder files00:54
Playerpoopymcpooperton, are you talking about in the Unity dash?00:54
poopymcpoopertonIm talking when i press the file draw00:55
Playerpoopymcpooperton, if so then I recall there's a privacy section in system settings (gear menu->System Settings->Privacy)00:55
poopymcpoopertonit pops up and recent places is there00:55
poopymcpoopertonthen people can see all the recent places I havebeen00:55
Playerpoopymcpooperton, apologies, I have no idea what you're talking about.  are you using Unity?00:55
poopymcpoopertonim using ubuntu00:55
poopymcpoopertondesktop00:56
Playerpoopymcpooperton, you didn't change the DE?00:56
Playerah00:56
PlayerYeah, try gear menu->System Settings then there's a section labeled "Privacy"00:56
poopymcpoopertoni hate the recent places thing00:56
Playerthere should be an option somewhere to disable it00:56
poopymcpoopertonyeah there it is00:56
poopymcpoopertonrecord file00:56
Playerswitch it to off. =)00:57
poopymcpoopertonthat did it!!!00:57
poopymcpoopertonthaks00:57
poopymcpoopertonnow my wife cant see my porn collection00:57
poopymcpoopertonthumbs up!!!00:57
Playerpoopymcpooperton, uhm, no problem?00:58
bluezoneHow do i go about having commands executed in shell when the user unpacks my .deb00:59
bluezonewas hoping to do something like python3 setup.py00:59
bluezone(under root)01:00
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Vivekanandahey everyone a very naive question. What does one need to do as a client to connect to another person's network via vpn ?01:01
Vivekanandais there a guide to this ? I want to log in virtually01:02
kg-ircVivekananda: Are you using OpenVPN or something else?01:02
Vivekanandawhat I know is the other guy has an asus router and is looking into it to set up vpn. Are there other ways of logging in besides vpn ? where can I read up ? I believe I used to do an ssh via cli and get the forwarded X on my system but that is all I knew but would01:03
Vivekanandalike to learn more01:03
Playerbluezone, execute shell commands that do what?01:04
Playerinstall the program (assuming it's a program)?01:04
bluezonePlayer, yeah01:04
bluezonebasically it need to modify a config file and whatnot01:05
kg-ircVivekananda: Find out the model number and download the manual for that router if you are trying to figure out how to configure it.01:05
bluezonethe dependencies are taken care of by one of those files in debian/01:05
Vivekanandakg-irc: I know but before I do that I want to know in general , what are they ways to connect to a different remote computer in general01:05
kg-ircVivekananda: "In general", SSH, VPN are both common. You can tunnel traffic over both. https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html01:06
Vivekanandaand also how would I set up such a network If I wanted to and what are the things I would need besides a router .  1. a static ip maybe  2 . pay money to the isp  or something similar ..  3 . a deployed server perhaps ?01:07
bluezoneVivekananda, i'm actually writing a GUI for ssh tunneling not sure if you need :P it's still experimental though01:07
kg-ircVivekananda: Its involved enough you really need to read a manual if you want to setup a VPN. For routing, you can use something like this: http://www.noip.com/free/01:08
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bluezonePlayer, got any ideas ? ^_^ this deb packaging documentation is extremely difficult to go through01:09
Playerbluezone, sorry I stepped away by a minute, I've done this before it's just inconsistent.01:09
Playerbluezone, forgive me if my terminology is off, you want to write an installscript that's run when dpkg processes the file with the -i argument, I can't remember if there had to be something special about the script or if you just declared it when packing the deb.. give me a few minutes01:10
bluezonePlayer, sure that's what i want to do, thanks in advance for the help :)01:10
Freederok, enough floundering01:11
FreederAfter the upgrade, my network is still down01:11
Player:(01:11
FreederOpening the network panel, it says "The system network services are not compatible with this version"01:11
* bluezone runs away from networking problems01:11
PlayerI don't know how to do much in terms of drivers, I've only messed with printers and video.  Sorry! D:01:11
Vivekanandakg-irc: okay so I will try to read up a manual but I just want to make sure I have all the ingredients eg a static ip ( needs to be bought) and stuff01:12
PlayerFreeder, I think you could try seeing if there's upgraded drivers for the NIC?  I mean, does it have an NIC?01:12
PlayerFreeder, I never asked, is this a VPS?01:12
bluezoneVivekananda, technically you don't need a static ip but it help hehe01:12
Vivekanandabluezone: thanks01:12
elfMobileUnable to load library icui18n "Cannot load library icui18n: (libicui18n.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)"01:12
elfMobilehow can I get libicui18n version 48 installed?01:13
elfMobileI'm on 14.0401:13
kg-ircVivekananda: noip.com will let you grab a domain name that updates automatically every X minutes so you can work with a dynamic IP even if it changes01:13
kg-ircVivekananda: A static IP address does help/simplify life.01:13
PlayerelfMobile, x86_64 or x86, what are you trying to run?01:13
Playerbluezone, did a little bit of looking around and someone says you can set up a script that'll run post-install.  call it "postinst" and put it in the debian directory, then pack your .deb01:14
sadboxI created an account to try and fix a problem with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaWiki  <-- that page01:14
Playerbluezone, I'm not sure if you need these commands to run on install or if it's okay to wait until it's installed, however..01:14
sadboxbut it says "Immutable page" at the top01:14
elfMobilePlayer,I'm on 64 bit.  I'm trying to run this... https://sealswithclubs.eu/pc-client/01:15
sadboxand it looks like the last edit was in 201201:15
elfMobilePlayer, they have a Linux port01:15
PlayerelfMobile, I think you're missing 32-bit libraries.01:15
bluezonePlayer, it's fine after install, basically the install just moves the python scripts, and then my setup.py just modifies a config file01:15
bluezonei can try this01:15
bluezonepostinst.sh?01:15
Playerbluezone, okay, if the info I relayed was at all relevant than give it a shot01:15
Playerbluezone, the guy just said "postinst"01:15
Playerbluezone, no extension, so maybe you should declare an interpreter at the top (i.e. #!/bin/bash)01:16
bluezoneok01:16
Playerand make sure it has X permissions01:16
BurritoExecute permissions - chmod +x ./nameofyourscript01:16
Vivekanandakg-irc: isnt there like a ubuntu guide to set this up ? the link you gave me ( open vpn ) seems a lot to read  not that I am afraid of reading.  Also another question . My friend has set up the vpn and given me a password. What info do I need from him in order to connect to his vpn01:17
BurritoAlso having the extension .sh helps, IMO. Just for personal maintenance01:17
kg-ircVivekananda: I never said you were afraid of reading. The ubuntu OpenVPN guide is over here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN#Configuring_the_Client but Idk anything about Asus routers or what VPN setups they have.01:18
daftykinsVivekananda: what are you actually trying to achieve with this VPN?01:19
elfMobilePlayer, I just downloaded version 4.8 and untar'd it.  I put the lib path in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH but it still complains with same message01:19
PlayerelfMobile, sorry about late reply, try installing ia32-libs-multiarch01:19
PlayerelfMobile, yeah, you're missing 32-bit libraries01:20
PlayerI ran into the same issue, I remember it was difficult because they changed the package.  I believe it was ia32-libs before.01:20
elfMobileE: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-multiarch01:20
PlayerelfMobile, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i38601:20
Playerunless they restored it01:20
daftykinsapt-cache search ia3201:21
elfMobileE: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-multiarch01:22
BurritoelfMobile, they seem to have a 64-bit version of that program for Linux, does that not work?01:22
Burritowhy does that not work*01:22
bluezonePlayer, do you happen to know if it will be executed as root?01:22
PlayerBurrito, elfMobile, he said he un-tar'd it so I'm not sure if it has an official repository.01:22
BurritoPlayer, it doesn't01:23
elfMobileBurrito, I'm on a 64 bit os.  I downloaded the 64 bit version of that poker program.  I downloaded the 64 bit version of icu01:23
Playerbluezone, dpkg has to be run as root in order to install a .deb, so yes.  garunteed it'll run as root01:23
elfMobileWhat leads Player to believe that this is a 32/64 problem?01:23
PlayerelfMobile, I wasn't paying attention when you said you downloaded the 64-bit version, sorry.  I thought it was a multiarch issue because of the missing library, let me do some digging..01:24
BurritoWorks with no errors on my computer...01:25
PlayerelfMobile, I had it reversed, ia32-libs is there for convenience, ia32-libs-multiarch is not.01:25
Burrito64-bit, 12.04-based Linux Mint01:25
elfMobileBurrito, yeah... their binaries say they're for 12.04 / 13.0401:25
PlayerelfMobile, Try $ sudo apt-get install python-pyicu01:25
elfMobilePlayer, still Unable to load library icui18n "Cannot load library icui18n: (libicui18n.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)"01:26
PlayerelfMobile, is libicu installed?01:27
elfMobilePlayer, yes01:27
elfMobilehold on for console...01:27
elfMobilePlayer, http://asciinema.org/a/959501:28
Pencil_Backup?  I want to type a command that will backup all my files to a thumb drive .01:28
PlayerPencil_, try rsync?01:28
bluezonePlayer, postinst seems to fail getting root access (as if the install hasnt finished yet and it's still locked): pastebin.com/A1VyGgSG01:29
PlayerI believe you can specify directories with that.01:29
Pencil_rsync?01:29
Player(not sure if this is up to date) http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-rsync-transfer-mirror-files-directories.html01:29
Player(pretty sure it is)01:29
Vivekanandadaftykins: the idea just recently became a need when  1. I have to log into a vpn created by another user but I dont how to do it and what info I need from him to do it.   2. If I want to set up a server on my computer to host a site  ( just practice) what do I need to know to be able to do it01:29
Playerbluezone, what commands are you running specifically?  could you put the contents of postinst on pastebin.ubuntu.com ? (or normal pastebin works too)01:31
bluezonePlayer, postinst file: http://bpaste.net/show/nBvZ1vOR5ycgHLCZDUPx/01:32
bluezonePlayer, line 79 i actually don't need maybe that's what is causing the problems01:33
bluezonei already listed the dependencies01:33
PlayerelfMobile, what do those arguments do?  why did you specify 12.04?  didn't you say it supports 13.10?01:33
Playerbluezone, if it's running additional dpkg commands then there's your problem.01:34
Playerbluezone, just checked line 79, I'm fairly certain that that's the issue.01:34
Freederanyone familiar with mdadm?01:34
PlayerI don't know what that is.01:34
elfMobilePlayer, what arguments?01:35
FreederMy raid is now showing up as /dev/md127 , instead of md001:35
Freederthis seems to be a known problem now, but want to understand it a little more01:35
xtbmanhey, I'm using 13.10, and it asked if I wanted to upgrade to 14.04. I said yes, and twice now it's given me an error saying "System program problem detected." Any idea what could be causing this?01:35
PlayerelfMobile, you ran ./swc_client-Linux\ v0.2.18\ Ubuntu-12.04-x86_6401:35
PlayerelfMobile, does the executable name have spaces in it?01:35
Pencil_I plugged in a brand new thumb drive and it shows on the launcher but I can't dbl click it.01:36
PlayerelfMobile, it looks like those libs come with the download, but not being loaded (maybe the program assumes they're in the system path)01:36
BurritoPlayer, the name does have spaces in it01:37
Burritoyou have to escape spaces with \ if you don't quote them01:37
Burritoso yeah01:37
zacariasHi! Is soeone familiar with fixing a bricked Seagate 7200.11 (a common problem, apparently) or with using GtkTerm?01:38
sadboxCould anyone help me correct an "immutable" page on on the community site?01:38
PlayerelfMobile, Uhm, may not work but try running it in quotes, and maybe your question earlier was valid (should it need to run as root)01:38
daftykinszacarias: a bricked hard disk wouldn't really have a chance of coming back from being a brick. what is up with it exactly?01:38
elfMobilePlayer, I copied them to system dir as root.  Though I've never had a problem using LD_LIBRARY_PATH before01:38
bluezoneEUREKA!01:39
bluezonePlayer, bingo!01:39
qwdqashi, if you type a youtube link which is accessed from your favorites playlist (and included in link url, but private list) do you see the playlist ?01:39
qwdqasor only the video01:39
elfMobilePlayer, after copying libicui18n it complained about libicuuc then libicudata01:39
elfMobile... now it doesn't complain about anything... just segfaults01:39
PlayerelfMobile, then you have a dependency mess01:39
Bashing-omxtbman: Does terminal commnads -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- run clean ?01:39
Playerbluezone, it worked?01:39
asarchWhat does it mean that a logical volume partition is the type "linear" and is it ok to use it?01:40
Burrito<Player> elfMobile, then you have a dependency mess <-- I don't think this is the case01:40
bluezonePlayer, yeah, now do you know how to demote myself from root and return back to the normal user? so that i can write to the .bashrc file properly (otherwise i don't know how to get the username)01:40
Playerqwdqas, I don't think you would see either if the playlist was private, unlisted would show up though.  Wrong channel btw.01:40
bluezoneThanks for the help ^_^01:40
qwdqasPlayer: unlisted ?01:40
BurritoelfMobile, Player, I think it's looking for something that your distro version doesn't have. It does say that it's an alpha version, and all.01:41
* elfMobile thinks about running 12.04 within Docker. Wonder how that would work with X01:41
qwdqasand sorry mate,  which channel could i try01:41
Playerqwdqas, I haven't managed YT playlists but you can set videos to unlisted.  they don't show up in search results but they're visible if they're linked to but I'm not sure if playlists have these same options01:41
Playerqwdqas, maybe a channel related to YouTube? :p01:41
elfMobilecool how you can essentially run Ubuntu 12.04 within Docker on a 14.04 host.  Haven't tried anything as advanced as trying to run a GUI app though.01:41
elfMobilethanks for hte help guys... gotta run01:42
VivekanandaI am trying to follow instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient01:42
Burritobluezone, I use 'sudo -s' in terminal to get into root, and then 'exit' to get out.01:42
zacariasdaftykins: apparently, when a Seagate 7200.11 isn't recognized by the BIOS, it's a common problem with the PCB firmware. There are lots of tutorials about how to fix it, incliding for Linux. Check it here: http://elabz.com/repairning-seagate-7200-11-drive-on-a-ubuntu-success-story/  But I'm having some trouble when it comes to connecting the drive to GtkTerm.01:42
bluezoneYeah that's what i have here too, will test it now ^_^01:42
Playerbluezone, what does the script do since it can't go back to normal user?01:42
Vivekanandaubuntu 12.04. dont I have network manager installed by default ? Also when trying to connect to vpn i lost my wired interenet. I am new to this and dont know if this should happen or if I am doing something wrong01:42
bluezonePlayer, well i removed the part of the script but it would crash because it would try to open('/home/root/.bashrc') :P01:43
Playerbluezone, I'm not sure.  there could be another method of getting the username/home folder01:43
bluezonePlayer, Burrito says i can just type exit i'll test now and lyk01:44
Burritobluezone, if you used some other method to get to root, I don't think it will work01:44
Playernot sure if that'll work but worth a try01:44
Freederanyone familiar with mdadm? My raid is now showing up as /dev/md127 , instead of md0. this seems to be a known problem now, but want to understand it a little more01:45
sadboxDoes someone maybe know how to get in touch with a moderator for the community wiki?01:46
daftykinssadbox: no01:46
daftykinssadbox: surely there's an info page?01:47
BurritoThey have a mailing list and an identi.ca account. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Contact01:47
Burritosadbox, ^01:47
sadboxBurrito: ty sir01:48
sadboxdaftykins: Couldn't find anything on the wiki, nothing obvious at least =P01:48
Burritohad* an identi.ca account :<01:48
Burrito"Cannot GET /group/ubuntudocs"01:48
qin_sadbox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil01:48
zacariasdoes anyone have any experience with using GtkTerm?01:53
bluezonePlayer, Burrito www.pastebin.com/4LH3aGkv doesn't seem to work, ah well... hmm01:53
oemapt seems to be looking for a Packages file on my 14.04 iso mount, but it only has Packages.gz01:54
Pencil_\quit01:54
Playerbluezone, I wanted to suggest maybe chainloading another script that wouldn't keep dpkg from closing (yet continue to run commands) but I'm still not sure how you would descend it from root priviliges.01:55
Playeroem, what are you trying to achieve?01:55
bluezonei think i'm going to just make a launcher for it or something at this point hehe01:56
bluezonethis packaging stuff feels too much like black magic01:56
oemPlayer, I've added a mount of this ISO as an apt source and am trying to update, but it just gets ignored01:56
oemPlayer, when I use apt-cdrom add, that's when I get the message about being unable to find Packages files01:57
oemPlayer: very much like this situation it seems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/102780101:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1027801 in apt (Ubuntu) "Packages.gz not found because instead searching for Packages only" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:57
Playeroem, are you trying to upgrade from a previous Ubuntu release?01:57
oemPlayer, yup01:58
oem12.04 -> 14.0401:58
oemI was hoping to avoid redownloading everything01:58
Panda67Having trouble with Ubuntu 13.10 and VirtualBox 4.201:59
PlayerPanda67, please elaborate02:00
holstein!virtualbox02:00
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox02:00
Flanneloem: The alternate CD is no-more, as such, I don't believe there's any ISO that will allow you to do an upgrade.02:00
PlayerFlannel, there's still options in 14.04 to use a CD as a software source?02:01
Panda67Networking... I tried NAT and Bridged.02:01
oemFlannel: I can't use the 14.04 iso as an apt source to upgrade from?02:01
Panda67Player: Networking... I tried NAT and Bridged.02:01
FlannelPlayer: yes, even the old desktop ISOs had *some* (additional) packages on the CD.02:01
Beldaroem, This a wubi install, the bug you show is?02:01
Flanneloem: I don't believe so, no.02:01
holsteinPanda67: with what as guest and host?02:01
PlayerFlannel, ah.  They'd be available in the repos though, wouldn't they?02:02
oemFlannel, it's not a wubi install, it just seems a lot like the same bug02:02
Playeroem, well, as Flannel said it doesn't seem like you can upgrade with a CD anymore.. unfortunately.02:02
oembummer02:02
oemI will just add the trusty sources from online and redownload02:02
FlannelPlayer: yes, but it had things you might need in order to get internet (historically, including build-essential, etc)02:02
oemthanks for the help02:03
Flanneloem: Actually, which ISO did you grab?02:03
Playeroem, but I do recall there being an option in the Ubiquity installer (yes, from the CD) that would allow you to upgrade that way.02:03
PlayerFlannel, aahh, thanks for re-iterating.  That'll come in handy.02:03
oemI mean, I have internet, so I should still be able to get the extra packages, I just wanted to get the ones that were on the CD without downloading02:03
oemI grabbed the big 64 bit one02:03
Panda67Player: Ubuntu 13.10 both02:03
FlannelPlayer: but I look at the manifest, and I see a number of package files, so maybe it is expanded now02:03
Flanneloem: desktop?02:04
oemyup02:04
FlannelPlayer: oh wait, sorry, I got confused, manifest, not list.02:04
Playeroem, I would just try running the standard ubiquity installer off the CD, and if you get to partitioning with no option for upgrading vs. complete reformat then proceed with adding the trusty repos02:04
Flanneloem: Yeah, that has maybe a dozen packages in it.  Not what you're going to want.02:04
oemahh, okay I see02:04
Flannelhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.list02:05
ubuntu_n00bhello, i am running 14.04 amd64 unity and am having an issue with chromium. it appears that menus (drop down within pages and right click context) are not working02:05
FlannelThe server CD would've been a better choice (but still, wouldn't include everything, so you'd still need the internet, which means as soon as the packages on the CD were out of date, you'd download "everything" from the internet anyway)02:05
tpw_rulesthis might be a terrible idea, but can i transition my 32 bit system to 64 bit? i installed the 32 bit os a long time ago and i'm now realizing that was a stupid decision02:06
holstein!Mini02:06
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD02:06
holstein^ you can get the 14.04 mini iso and only download what you want, in a fresh install, if saving bandwidth is the goal02:06
xanguatpw_rules: backup your important files and reinstall02:06
Flannelholstein: That's not going to help with an upgrade ;)02:06
tpw_rulesxangua: that's what i was expecting. oh well...02:07
Panda67Player: I fixed it before but I documented it poorly.02:07
oemFlannel: I see, this all makes sense now.  The ISOs don't have quite enough packages to constitute a full upgrade, then once you do get a source with all the packages, it'll need to get all the latest dependencies anyway02:07
Playerubuntu_n00b, does this happen in any other program?02:07
oemthanks again02:07
holsteinFlannel: thats why i added "if saving bandwidth is the goal".. agreeing with what you state, that the bandwidth gets used anyway02:07
ubuntu_n00bno02:07
holsteinFlannel: if upgrade is the goal, then the upgrade button is the one to press02:07
ubuntu_n00bmenus work perfectly in FF02:08
Flanneloem: If you're worried about downloading packages because you're data limited and doing multiple computers, consider something like apt-proxy for your network.02:08
Flannel(and consider it anyway, not just for upgrades)02:08
Playertpw_rules, No you can't, sorry.  I was in the same situation when 12.04 LTS came out, I installed x86 because I thought there were complications with 32-bit programs on 64-bit, and I waited until 14.04 beta to upgrade.  Tl;dr, no you'll have to install 100% from scratch. :<02:08
ubuntu_n00bbut in chromium they are either blank, zoomed in too far and unreadable and are always scrollable02:08
holsteinubuntu_n00b: try as guest.. if it works, remove the config for chromium from your users config02:09
PlayerPanda67, maybe the virtualbox has guest-additions software?02:09
oemFlannel: nah, I'm just lazy or something, which means I try to take "shortcuts" which sometimes turn into longcuts02:09
oembut i learn things along the way02:09
Flanneloem: That's the best way to learn, yes.02:09
PlayerPanda67, does your motherboard support hardware virtualization?02:09
Panda67Player: I aready installed.02:09
Panda67Player: Yes, I turned it on.02:10
Vivekanandaheey everyone. I try to connect to vpn and  I use an ip without https as the gateway .  ie  in the space for gateway I put  193.134.23.23 without any https . I then use the username and passoword and then when I try to connect it says connection established but I loose internet :(.  ubuntu 12.0402:10
Vivekanandawhat am I doing wrong ?02:11
Panda67Player: I've been playing with different OS's for the past 3 days02:11
zactshi how can I disable all mouse gestures systemwide?02:11
VivekanandaAlso what happens right after a vpn connection ? Should i see a desktop window pop up for the remote computer or not ?02:11
zactsI use i3wm.02:11
PlayerPanda67, I'm out of ideas, best I can suggest is play with the virtualbox's settings.  If you didn't delete an image that networking worked on then look at it's settings and see if anything's different.02:12
Panda67sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces02:12
PlayerPanda67, But I'm not sure if it's a virtualized hardware configuration issue, which it might be.02:12
Panda67This was part of what I did before in the Host Terminal02:12
Panda67Player: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces02:13
Panda67Player: This was part of what I did before in the Host Terminal02:13
Panda67Player: But I got a file/output and piped it to grep to find the right eth0/eth1/eth2/etc02:14
PlayerPanda67, Not sure how that could fix the issue, the comments in the file state that changes would be lost.02:14
Panda67I don't remember the grep command02:14
PlayerPanda67, it sounds like it's not defaulting to the right adapter02:14
PlayerPanda67, grep is a passive command, did you get information from this file that you used to configure something elsewhere?02:15
Vivekanandaanyone care to comment02:15
Panda67I tried uninstalling network-manager and reinstalling02:15
Panda67Player: I tried uninstalling network-manager and reinstalling02:15
Panda67Player: that was a terrible idea02:15
PlayerPanda67, I can imagine.02:15
Panda67Player: i ended up reinstalling the OS cuz I couldn't apt-get02:15
Panda67Player: Yeah, I think I grepped for the 'eth?' and then I replaced the current eth0 with 'eth?''02:17
holsteinPanda67: you shouldnt need to02:17
PlayerPanda67, and you're certain the solution can't be found in the virtualbox's settings?02:18
holsteinPanda67: i never address the connectivity of the guest like that on the host's config files02:18
zombu2anyone any idea on how to configure channel bonding on multiple nics?02:19
Panda67Maybe Host-Only Adapter but I'm clueless on configuration and it seems like overkill02:19
holsteinPanda67: i just try them all.. in the vbox config, and use what meets my needs best02:19
Panda67holstein: the gui or cli?02:19
Playerholstein, Wait, he was changing those settings on the host?  I thought it was on the guest.02:20
holsteinPanda67: i have never addressed connectivity like that in anything other than the vbox settings02:20
holsteinPlayer: i read host.. thats why i piped up about it..02:20
Playerholstein, ah my bad, yeah Panda67 don't trouble shoot that anywhere other than vbox settings unless you couldn't fix it  in vbox settings.02:21
Panda67holstein: Should I focus on NAT or Bridged Adapter?02:21
Panda67Player: Okay02:22
Panda67Player: I understand02:22
PlayerPanda67, NAT has always worked for me.02:22
holsteinPanda67: choose the one that fits your needs, and focus on it02:22
Panda67Bridged Adapter only has eth0 and wlan002:22
holsteinPanda67: the default is where i would start02:22
Panda67NAT doesn't work at all for me.02:22
holsteinPanda67: sure.. why? it should work out of the box02:23
holsteinPanda67: thats where i would start..02:23
Panda67With Ubuntu 12.10 as host NAT will work for me but 13.04/13.10/and14.04LTS is a no go.02:23
PlayerPanda67, http://askubuntu.com/questions/216865/vitualbox-nat-stopped-working-after-ubuntu-upgrade-to-12-1002:24
Panda67I got Bridged Adapter to work somehow but I had to reinstall the OS and lost the settings02:24
Playerstates that VirtualBox uses /etc/resolv.conf on the host to map dns>dhcp02:24
holsteinPanda67: are you using the vbox from the repos?02:24
Vivekanandasomeone have any comments for me ?02:25
holsteinVivekananda: regarding?02:25
Panda67echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian $(lsb_release -sc) contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list02:25
Panda67wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -02:25
Panda67sudo apt-get update02:25
Panda67sudo apt-get install virtualbox-4.202:25
holstein!vpn | Vivekananda02:26
ubottuVivekananda: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN02:26
holsteinPanda67: you can try the repo one.. the default one02:27
Vivekanandahey holstein howdy. Three questions about connecting to remote vpn.  1. I used just the  ip ( ie xxx.xxx.xx.xx ) for the 'gateway'  2. As soon as I click connect to vpn I loose internet .  3.  Should I see a window pop up displaying the remote computer right after   connection established ?  or what should I see ?02:27
holsteinVivekananda: refer to the documentation. try and confirm your credentials and settings02:28
Panda67holstein: Do you use 4.2 or 4.3?02:28
holsteinPanda67: i just sudo apt-get the default.. and use it..02:28
Panda67holstein: Okay02:28
holsteinPanda67: TBH, i dont recall what all versions.. but, the networking has always just worked out of the box02:28
Vivekanandaholstein: I am trying that but the biggest issue is why does my internet disconnect on tryin a vpn connection  ?02:29
holsteinVivekananda: i dont know, and if it is your internet disconnecting, that will bre independent of the operating system02:30
holsteinwill be*02:30
Panda67Player: Thank you =)02:30
Panda67holstein: Thank you =)02:30
PlayerPanda67, You got it working?  Nice!02:30
kanhiyahi all, i am using 14.04 and i want to connect my android phone v 4.4.2 to ubuntu's hotspot . But My phone is  not detecting wireless network created by Ubuntu.  i want to share my pc's internet connection with my andorid phone using wifi. How to do that in Ubuntu02:37
rentoh02:37
rentohi02:37
lukethedrifteri02:39
danuxwhat is the best network monitor that displays dns names rather than ip addresses for ubuntu ?02:39
PlayerI have an Ubuntu server running xfce4 that I access over VNC.  It seems that it doesn't use any icons (many of them are missing and a few use generic and/or irrelevant icons), anyone have any suggestions?02:39
holsteinPlayer: you could try xubuntu desktop instead02:40
Playerholstein, I like xfce, the icons and everything were working before I reformatted yesterday.02:41
ubuntuaddictedi'm having an audacity playback issue. where i'll record something from my usb mic and if i try to play it back, it's super fast and just static BUT if i export it, it's fine02:41
holsteinPlayer: sure.. thats why i suggested xubuntu session..02:41
holstein!xubuntu02:41
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels02:41
holsteinPlayer: you may enjoy the preconfiguration and setup that xubuntu does for xfce02:41
kanhiyahi all, i am using 14.04 and i want to connect my android phone v 4.4.2 to ubuntu's hotspot . But My phone is  not detecting wireless network created by Ubuntu.  i want to share my pc's internet connection with my andorid phone using wifi. How to do that in Ubuntu02:41
holsteinkanhiya: i just connect them both to my wireless router.. is that not an option?02:42
Playerholstein, sorry, I thought it was another desktop environment for some reason (I need a break)02:42
Vivekanandaholstein: I got sent vpn server settings from the other guy and the username password is correct in the screenshot and he has switched on PPTP . I wonder if there is something else he needs to do . I am trying to connect via phone and also laptop and none work02:42
holsteinkanhiya: make sure the wireless gateway is accessible and created correctly.. those are not trivial to setup02:42
vector_how do I get list of connected usb devices02:42
kanhiyaholstein: ahahha02:42
holsteinvector_: try "lsusb" in a terminal02:43
kanhiyaholstein: i just want to share my pc's internet connection, just opposite to mobile's wireless hotspot02:43
markjonesHi, I just installed 14.04 onto my chromebook. I had 13.10 on before, and it booted up in only a few seconds. With 14.04, it takes upwards of 1 minute to boot up. I installed bootchart. Here's my bootchart image: http://i.imgur.com/4jqPaoh.png02:43
markjonesAny idea what's making it hang?02:43
holsteinmarkjones: a minute sounds good to me, on hardware that was not promised to run linux..02:44
holstein(ubuntu linux)02:44
markjonesholstein compared to a couple seconds on 13.10? I've searched Google, and some people say that a particular program is making it hang based on peoples' bootcharts. So, I'm wondering if you notice anything obvious in my mine.02:45
vector_how do I get the directory02:45
OerHeksmarkjones, sounds like suspend, not booting02:46
markjonesOerHeks: sorry I'm not understanding. What do you mean suspend and not booting?02:46
OerHekssuspend/sleep/hybernate02:47
holsteinmarkjones: resume from suspend would take a few seconds02:47
holsteinmarkjones: its pretty normal and "good" for machines to boot under a minute or so02:48
bluezoneam i doing something wrong in this launcher file? When i install the .deb package i have a launcher but the icon is not the one i set (it's the question mark) http://pastebin.com/WNq50bFX02:48
markjonesholstein: that's fine. But if this is how 14.04 is going to boot normally for me, and there's no obvious problem in my bootchart. Then I'll just go back to 13.10 where it booted in seconds.02:48
vector_holstein: how do get the path a device02:49
markjonesIt hangs on a black screen for about 40 seconds, not on any Ubuntu loading screen02:49
Vivekanandacan I request anyone to please check if 68.198.105.73 responds to a ping ?02:49
OerHeksping02:50
zombu2pong02:50
Vivekanandadoes it ping ?02:52
osielnhow can i set an static ip on 14.04? i tried editing the /etc/network/interfaces file and /etc/init.d/networking restart02:54
GeoHi, want to run this by you... I currently have an 80gb and a 60gb hard drive mirroring each other for /home (60gb), and the remaining 20gb on the 80gb as / . I am about to upgrade the drives and bought 2x 160gb drives. I still plan to mirror /home, but with same-sized drives, I'm hesitant to mirror / , in case mdadm has an issue at some point and I can't boot my machine.02:56
GeoWhat are your thoughts on how to divvy up the drive spacing?02:56
Geoosieln: and what was the problem?02:56
osielnGeo: eth0 was deactivated02:56
Geo... after a reboot?02:56
Geoor after the service restart?02:57
kupo_anyone know if it is possible to get thunderbird notifications from xfce indicator thingy?02:57
osielnno, after restarting the service02:57
GeoYou might find pastebin'ing your config to be a little more helpful02:57
zombu2try rebooting02:57
kupo_It has icon to launch thunderbird. but dunno if it tells you when you get new meial or not02:57
Yeluosieln, on a desktop system don't do it in "interfaces", but in network manager. Use ifdown <if> ans ifup <if>.02:57
zombu2i had the same crap happening to me today a gazillion times02:57
ninebitsHow can i change the default icon for a given file extension? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS02:58
zombu2i m still trying to figure out how to activate channel bonding on 4 nics02:58
zombu2everytime i set it up bond0 no workie02:58
osielnYelu: thanks02:58
xanguakupo_: gnotifier allows firefox to use native notifications, don't know if it's aviable for thunderbird02:59
vector_how do get list of connected device and their path02:59
kupo_yeah. i can probably get it going with gmail. thanks though. not a big deal03:01
ninebitsOn Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, is there a way to change the default icon for a given file extension?03:03
kupo_right click and properties or use different icon theme03:04
ninebitsit seems only to affect the file i right-click03:04
markjonesAnyone notice anything obvious in this bootchart that might be causing a slow bootup? http://i.imgur.com/4jqPaoh.png03:07
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Erick-20necesito ayuda para poder usar el emulador de juegos "PPSSPP" en ubuntu 14.04, no corre y ademas pide un complemento para correr, pero el problema es que no encuentro el complemento adecuando que pide "openGL 2.0"03:09
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markjonesbrb03:10
zombu2did someone get that order for table 4???03:11
zombu2he wants fries with his burger03:11
daftykinswho wouldn't03:11
holsteinvector_: you can use lsusb to show use devices.. if you are looking or hard drives, you probably want "sudo fdisk -l"03:12
Yelu!burger03:13
kostkononly cookies03:13
kostkon!cookie | Yelu03:14
ubottuYelu: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:14
Yelukostkon, thanks for your help littering the channel, too :)03:15
kostkonYelu: np03:15
Beldar!es > Erick-2003:20
ubottuErick-20, please see my private message03:20
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bluezoneam i doing something wrong in this launcher file? When i install the .deb package i have a launcher but the icon is not the one i set (it's the question mark) http://pastebin.com/WNq50bFX03:21
markjonesI'm getting slow boot times in 14.04. At around the 2 second mark, dmesg has the line "Switched to clocksource tsc". Then the next line occurs at the 53 second mark. Any idea how to resolve this?03:27
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:29
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DaghdhaIs it possible in ubuntu to compress entire folders, but not to tar or zip. Just on the filesystem. I have some huge backups on there that i think can be compressed a lot. (They are filecopies or Virtual machines including the disks of the virtual machiens)03:35
lotuspsychjeDaghdha: im not sure there's a better alternative then compressing with tar03:36
Daghdhawell, i still wanna be able to access them as a filesystem just as they are now.03:36
ridethespiralHelp! My Ubuntu 12.04 install that was working g yesterday won't boot past the Ubuntu logo (dots load fully)03:37
markjones_holstein: finally, I got it! I had to downgrade my kernel, but I'm finally booting into 14.04 in less than 10 seconds.03:37
markjones_So much for "1 minute is normal"!03:37
DaghdhaWindows can do this, i'm sure you know what i mean. Justc l;ick a folder and say 'compress' or something likethat. It's no must. But it would def save me some GB's :)03:37
lotuspsychjeDaghdha: i think backups or other hd's are better for larger backups03:38
ridethespiralI tried both kernels i have installed. Both show ^@^@^@^@ before Ubuntu logo03:38
BlueProtomanHow do I upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu?  I've been putting it off because I wanted to finish the semester first, but now I can upgrade safely.03:39
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: you see errors when pressing F1?03:39
ridethespiralI'll try one moment03:39
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: whats your current version?03:39
DaghdhaThis is my current reality lotuspsychje :) I am just trying to score some extra diskspace on thet volume. But if it can't be done that's ok too.03:39
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: 13.1003:39
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: you can upgrade safely, but know that clean installs always better03:40
ridethespiralLotuspsyche, when would I press f1 it does nothing03:40
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: Yeah, but my question is, how can I upgrade?03:40
lotuspsychjeDaghdha: how about cleaning space on your hd's?03:40
danuxwhat is the best network monitor that displays dns names rather than ip addresses for lubuntu ?03:40
kostkonBlueProtoman: open your updater03:40
DaghdhaYou mean delete stuff? I am looking at that now03:40
BlueProtomankostkon: It tells me everything is up to date03:41
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-1404-trusty-tahr-from.html03:41
lotuspsychje!info etherape | danux03:42
ubottudanux: etherape (source: etherape): graphical network monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1 (trusty), package size 661 kB, installed size 3145 kB03:42
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BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: Ah, thank youi03:42
BlueProtoman*you03:42
ridethespiralLotuspsychje when would I press f1 it doesn't seem to do anything03:43
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: normally when the dots loading press F103:43
danuxubottu:  eterape still displays ip addresses instead of their respective dns names03:43
ubottudanux: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:43
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: if that doesnt work, try the recoverymode from grub03:44
lotuspsychjeDaghdha: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/03:44
danuxlotuspsychje:  eterape still displays ip addresses instead of their respective dns names03:44
lotuspsychjedanux: i think you can set dns into etherape03:44
ridethespiralLotusosychje Yeah looks like something has gone wrong but I can't interoperate it03:45
ridethespiralInterpret lol I'm on my phone03:46
borbitTrying to get this dick sucking device running. It was only 10 USD bought it on dealextreme.io. How do i get this thing working under UBUNTU?03:46
borbit(14.04)03:46
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: can you describe the text error?03:46
Daghdhayeh i know lotuspsychje. I don't wanna do that, i just basically want to retain the current filesystem only with some data -as part of a filesystem feature- compressed03:47
lotuspsychje!language | borbit03:47
ubottuborbit: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList03:47
delthello03:47
Daghdhathanks anyway03:47
delthow do you install MATE in ubuntu / xubuntu / ubuntu studio? is there a specific package name?03:47
kostkondelt: hi03:47
lotuspsychjeDaghdha: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know a way for the whole dir?03:47
deltthis probably isn't it: mate-desktop - Library with common API for various MATE modules03:47
borbitOke sorry? What did I say wrong?03:47
ridethespiralFirst line "could not write bytes: Broken pipe" ... Fs.... And it just booted into the display manager while I was typing03:47
Beldardelt, If 14.04 mate-desktop03:47
kostkon!mate03:47
lotuspsychje!find mate03:48
ubottuFound: classmate-artwork, classmate-tools, gir1.2-mate-wnck, libmate-desktop-2-17, libmate-desktop-dev, libmate-desktop-doc, libmatekbd-common, libmatekbd-dbg, libmatekbd-dev, libmatekbd4 (and 34 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mate&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all03:48
deltBeldar: it says it's just libraries03:48
borbitsorry for the caps lock i guess?03:48
Daghdhagir1.2-mate-wnck??03:48
GeoHi, want to run this by you... I currently have an 80gb and a 60gb hard drive mirroring each other for /home (60gb), and the remaining 20gb on the 80gb as / . I am about to upgrade the drives and bought 2x 160gb drives. I still plan to mirror /home, but with same-sized drives, I'm hesitant to mirror / , in case mdadm has an issue at some point and I can't boot my machine.03:48
GeoWhat are your thoughts on how to divvy up the drive spacing?03:48
Daghdhai read that as girl to mate wank. Anyway thanks for help and bb. :)03:48
lotuspsychjeborbit: set your bios from IDE to AHCI for ssd03:48
deltBeldar: the description says it's just libraries03:48
ridethespiralBrb logging in on laptop03:49
borbitPentium D here. Is it worth it to buy 40GB SSD for 30 EUR? It feels like most of the waiting time my PC is making the HDD sound,03:50
borbit2.5GB mem03:50
kostkonborbit: how much ram03:50
Beldardelt, supposed to be in 14.04, not sure what's up, I do see a ppa, if this is crucial.03:50
kostkonhmm03:50
borbit2.5gb03:50
Phlowborbit, probably03:50
lotuspsychjedelt: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-mate-18-in-ubuntu.html03:50
Phlowborbit, SSD's can breath new life into old slow machines03:51
borbitCan I use a ssd as swap space?03:51
kostkonborbit: I'd say upgrade your ram as well, if you can03:51
lotuspsychjeborbit: what brand is this?03:51
borbitIt is old.03:51
borbitHP new ram would be not possible money wise.03:51
Phlowborbit, does it even support SATA? :)  might need a pci card too03:51
kostkonborbit: used from eBay?03:52
borbitBought the machine for less then 2.5 GB new RAM.03:52
kostkonborbit: but yeah the sad will improve things somewhat03:52
lotuspsychjeborbit: here are ubuntu tweaks you can do on the ssd: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd03:52
borbitBought it cheap from local store. There is a warning sticker that says it has XP so I could get it for 10 EUR03:53
kostkonssd*03:53
ridethespirallotuspsychje, It booted into unity as I was typing the errors. I have a crash log window, any info there I could give you?03:53
deltlotuspsychje: we found the same page :D thanks03:53
lotuspsychje!paste | ridethespiral03:53
ubotturidethespiral: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:53
borbitI might be able to use the PC to generate 1000 EUR. I have 40EUR to spend right now. So it would be a good investment? (1000 EUR is half a year living for me)03:55
ridethespirallotuspsychje, It's one of those "sorry ubuntu has experience and internal error" windows. I can't even copy the text inside the window nor capture everything in one screenshot03:55
lotuspsychjeborbit: please lets stick to ubuntu supporting problems03:55
lotuspsychjeborbit: you can ask many info on the ##hardware channel03:55
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: maybe try the recoverymode from grub (failsafeX or fix broken packages)03:56
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: is this a clean install or upgrade?03:56
borbitSorry, just happy to have internet acces after 2 years. I understand, will head to reddit to share my story. SO HAPPY TO BE ONLINE AGAIN AFTER ALL THIS WAR! PEACE TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:57
ridethespirallotuspsychje, it booted to unity after 5 minutes or so. There's no broken packages in synaptic03:58
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: your system specs are good enough for unity?03:58
ridethespirallotuspsychje, I had ubuntu studio 12.04 installed and tried a fresh install of 14.04 which just wouldn't agree with my laptop. Tried to go back to 12.04 studio and that wouldn't work. Finally tried installing my old trust 12.04.3 from a usb stick I've tried many times and that didn't work, so I made the usb stick again03:59
ridethespiralYes it's a 3 year old laptop with a core i5 and 4gb ram03:59
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: did you try 14.04 clean?03:59
ridethespirallotuspsychje, all installs clean, except /home on a separate partition / hdd03:59
cfhowlettridethespiral did you verify the ISO 's?03:59
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: should be good enough, whats your graphics hardware?04:00
ridethespirallotuspsychje, some mobile radeon which fried when using hdmi just after my warranty period. I'm not using the graphics from the core i5. I have disabled the radeon card with an acpi_call module04:00
ridethespiralI'm now**04:01
sbimikeis there a way to output to stdout that is compatible with logrotate telling it to close its file descriptor?04:01
LJSeinfeldInstalled a NVIDIA gpu and lost on-board sound (gpu has HDMI ports.. so I'm guessing it took over.. ), cant figure out how to get regular old analog audio / internal speaker back.. :/04:01
sbimikeperhaps some intermediary command like tee'04:01
ridethespirallotuspsychje, I've had no problems with ubuntu for the last two years and now that I've tried fresh installs, it's F***ed04:01
LJSeinfeldnothing shows up except NVidia device in alsamixer...04:02
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: i dont see why 14.04 would fail on a machine unless its older hardware04:02
ridethespiralmy mouse doesn't work in 14.0404:03
ridethespiralI can't do anything...04:03
ridethespirallol04:03
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: did you disable graphics from bios?04:03
ridethespiralYes, I'm running in 'switchable' mode04:03
Amy_quit04:03
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: maybe re-enable first to install trusty clean04:04
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: did you install with internet connection and install updates during setup?04:04
ridethespirallotuspsychje, ok I can try, it's really screwed up when it's enabled but I can make my way through the menus. It's glitched the hell out and has been ever since I plugged in that hdmi cord.. I do always boot to the live session (works fine all the time) and then sign into wifi and enable restricted extras & updates04:05
lotuspsychje!sound | LJSeinfeld04:05
ubottuLJSeinfeld: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:05
ridethespiralActually, the live usb for ubuntu 14.04 studio the mouse doesn't work either lol04:06
ridethespiralIt did the first few times but no more04:06
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: maybe a 'nomodeset' install could help you04:06
LJSeinfeld<--  Needs help with lost sound issue on 13.10 :)04:06
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | ridethespiral04:06
ubotturidethespiral: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:06
ridethespirallotuspsychje, but why would it be happening now? I was happily running  3.11.XX kernels on ubuntu studio 12.0404:07
LJSeinfeldubottu:  No sound devices show in the sound preferences at all any more (since installation of card)04:07
ubottuLJSeinfeld: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:07
ridethespirallotuspsychje,  even the same usb sticks I used the first time around arn't installing without issues. maybe my laptop is calling it quits? haha04:08
Jedininjarobguys i got a bit of an issue,,, trying to install regular ubuntu desktop from ubuntu studio, how do i do that .. i keep getting "you held broken packeges" failure04:08
LJSeinfeldlol04:08
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: not sure we can support studio here, best is to try versions from topic mate04:08
LJSeinfeldDIdn't see the line above the bot's response..04:08
lotuspsychje!studio04:09
ubottuUbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org04:09
ridethespiralI know, and I'm using 12.04 with unity, not studio, atm04:09
ridethespiralI did a fresh install of 12.04 after studio wouldn't work04:09
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: if i was you, i would again try 14.04 fresh04:09
ridethespiralI'll try a nomodeset install.04:09
ridethespiralOk 14.04 regular ubunto, no modeset?04:10
ridethespiralerr. no, nomodeset04:10
ridethespiral:P04:10
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: yes try 14.04 with nomodeset04:10
ridethespiralOk. I'll check the MD5 of the iso first04:10
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: F1 at ubuntu setup boot04:10
ridethespiralI know how to set nomodeset :)04:11
lotuspsychje!yay | ridethespiral04:11
ubotturidethespiral: Glad you made it! :-)04:11
Jedininjarobi pooped myself04:11
lotuspsychje!language | Jedininjarob04:11
ubottuJedininjarob: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList04:11
Jedininjaroblol04:11
anonymous__11104:12
anonymous__hey04:12
Jedininjarobguys any one free to answer a few questions..?04:12
cfhowlett!ask|Jedininjarob04:12
ubottuJedininjarob: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:12
anonymous__hy  i am from UKRAINE04:12
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lotuspsychjeJedininjarob: studio is not regular ubuntu, join their channel04:12
cfhowlett!ukraine|anonymous__04:13
cfhowlett!ukrainian|anonymous__04:13
anonymous__YES04:13
anonymous__!!04:13
ridethespiralmd5sum matches so I'll make the usb stick again04:13
Jedininjarobi am trying to get some type of tweak tool or something in ubuntu studio, nothing exist so far i can use, obviously it uses xfce desktop,, what am i to do to for tweak tools?04:13
cfhowlettanonymous__ so?  what is your ubuntu question?04:13
Jedininjarobi am using 14.0404:13
lotuspsychje!studio > Jedininjarob04:14
ubottuJedininjarob, please see my private message04:14
Conniei want to make firefox open irc:// link with kvirc, but i'm not sure where to find it on my files :P04:15
ridethespirallotuspsychje, do I want the radeon card enabled while doing nomodeset?04:15
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: sure try04:15
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: do you have another graphics card that actually works in your system?04:15
ridethespiralyes the core i504:16
Jedininjarobi am using ubuntu base dosent that matter?04:16
lotuspsychjeConnie: you can set filetypes in firefox04:16
rusty_Hello, I have just installed 14.04 on a new build pc. The network adapter on the motherboard is not working. I have updated kernel to 3.14.4 still no joy. Mobo is a Gigabyte Z87X-D3H. Google got me nowhere so far (except some driver for e1000e which i ran make install / mod probe for but no luck).  Any suggestions appreciated04:17
Connielotuspsychje: meaning? :P (kind of a noob ._.)04:17
ridethespirallotuspsychje, yes the core i5 is what I've been using for gpu04:17
ridethespiralworked fine lol04:17
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: is that the onboard graphics?04:17
ridethespiral(and is now)04:17
ridethespirallotuspsychje, Yes the intel core processors have a gpu built in04:18
LeninX_UkraineUkrain like u04:18
LeninX_Ukrainehi04:18
hdtune2khi04:18
hdtune2kLENINX04:19
LeninX_Ukraine)04:19
hdtune2kDo u have any question?04:19
Jedininjarobany else using 14.04?04:19
cfhowlettJedininjarob several thousands - probably millions04:19
LeninX_Ukrainei wont attack a russions site (whu is help???)04:19
Jedininjarobdo you have any fixes for the tweak tools missing?04:20
cfhowlettLeninX_Ukraine wrong channel.  we don't do attack sites.  ask elsewhere04:20
CarlFKrusty_: show what this gives: $ lspci |grep Eth04:20
CarlFK04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 07)04:20
LeninX_Ukraineok04:20
ridethespirallotuspsychje, usb stick is done. Going to try nomodeset install. fingers crossed04:20
LeninX_Ukraine??? chenel04:20
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: good luck!04:20
ridethespiralBRB >.<04:20
w4|k3r#join #c++04:21
w4|k3rsorry for that04:21
CarlFKw4|k3r: /j works too :)04:21
rusty_CarlFK, Intel Corporation I217-V (rev 05) (possible mis type, no network connection on desktop so had to type it out)04:22
lotuspsychjeConnie: http://mozillalinks.org/2008/07/set-mibbit-as-your-irc-client-in-firefox/ try like this, but then as kvirc04:22
Connielotuspsychje: thanks04:23
rusty_ok so a google on that brings me back to the download for e1000e-3.0.404:23
lotuspsychjerusty_: realtek website should have linux updated drivers04:24
CarlFKrusty_: that prolly means there isn't a problem with the hardware.    grep syslog for the ID, like mine is grep 04:00.0 /var/log/syslog04:24
CarlFKlotuspsychje: I have the realtek, rusty_ has Intel04:25
lotuspsychjeCarlFK: oh right it was your example :p04:25
Connieoh, lotuspsychje, my problem is that i don't know the location of KVirc in my files..04:25
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rusty_ok quite a few entries in syslog, what am i looking for?04:27
Bashing-omrusty_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1834774&highlight=RTL8168 ,  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#204:27
lotuspsychjeConnie: you can use 'whereis' name of package from terminal04:28
CarlFKrusty_: either something that looks like a problem, or something that looks like the hardware drivers are ok, so we will then look for config problem04:28
rusty_Bashing-om, doesn't look like related to my chipset, but thanks04:28
Conniei'll give it a try lotuspsychje04:28
rusty_lots of lines with "disabling TSO"04:29
rusty_and a "couldn't find support for device at …. not support by any plugin"04:29
Bashing-omrusty_: realtec rtl8111 ?? -> An alternate driver is available r8168.04:31
rusty_Bashing-om, I don't have a realtek it is an intel04:31
CarlFKBashing-om:  I have the realtek, rusty_ has Intel04:31
bluezoneam i doing something wrong in this launcher file? I've called it SSHTunnel.desktop and placed it in /usr/share/applications/ . I have a launcher but the icon is not the one i set (it's the question mark) http://pastebin.com/WNq50bFX04:31
CarlFKrusty_: long shot... http://serverfault.com/questions/193114/linux-e1000e-intel-networking-driver-problems-galore-where-do-i-start   "             Please try booting the kernel with the pcie_aspm=off kernel parameter.      "04:31
Bashing-omrusty_: Sorry, failed to follow the converation.04:32
CarlFKrusty_: it is easy enough to try.  if not and I am not around, I am wondering if the driver works enough to get a device node like eth0 assigned to it04:34
rusty_Bashing-om, no worries dude, ta for trying04:34
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rusty_CarlFK, can you dumb that down for me a little?04:37
JIA1210880668hi04:38
JIA1210880668有中国人吗 ?04:39
cfhowlett!cn|JIA121088066804:39
ubottuJIA1210880668: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw04:39
JIA1210880668ubuntu-cn04:41
JIA1210880668wha04:41
CarlFKrusty - sure, you need to add "pcie_aspm=off" to the line that boots the kernel.  vim /boot/grub/grub.cfg  line 147.. linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=5955e3c5-fa8f-4996-b21f-157eaaa15925 ro BOOTIF=01-b8-88-e3-fa-02-54 quiet splash crashkernel=384M-:128M $vt_handoff04:41
CarlFKrusty_: there are better ways of making that change (other files, then generate that file...) but they are more steps04:42
rusty_no luck with the grub args04:42
Devmewhy ubuntu has a seperate software centre for apps??04:43
babinlonstonhow can i show the image what i have took now regarding ubuntu kernel error system not booting04:43
JIA1210880668.04:43
cfhowlettbabinlonston look on your keyboard for the PrintScrn key.  take and save the picture then paste it.04:43
cfhowlett!paste04:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:43
Devmewhy we cant directly download softwares for linu04:45
Devme*linux04:45
cfhowlettDevme ask ##linux04:45
qin_Devme: You can, but it is not really comfy.04:45
cfhowlettDevme or learn to use APT    e.g. sudo apt-get install abiword04:46
w4|k3r#join #c04:46
Locke2002sudo stop lightdm04:46
Locke2002satanismyshepherd04:47
Locke2002sudo pkill lightdm04:47
CarlFKw4|k3r: /j works too :)04:47
Devmebut,how for windows we download anything directly?04:47
w4|k3rI know - I am sorry04:47
CarlFKDevme: no one has created something like package manager for windows04:47
SchrodingersScatDevme: please define 'directly download'04:47
qin_Locke2002: sudo service lightdm stop;04:47
SchrodingersScatDevme: or more accurately, please define 'directly download softwares'04:48
konobianyone ever seen a whole bunch of processes that have zero memory, and a name of \0 ?04:48
cfhowlettDevme windows?  this isn't windows support = ##windows04:48
w4|k3rDevme, check axel if you are using Ubuntu04:48
w4|k3rquite useful04:48
babinlonstoncfhowlett: please have a look at this image and guide me how to fix it04:49
babinlonstoncfhowlett: http://i60.tinypic.com/21c9yx5.jpg04:49
konobiroot      1265  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        SN   May15   0:00 [?/0]04:49
konobiroot      1266  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        SN   May15   0:00 [?/0]04:49
qin_Devme: Most of distros do have repositiries, for comfort of varsion management, dependencies and security. If you cant embrace this concept - Linux from scratch or Windows04:49
konobilike this, but many times over04:50
konobi142 in fact04:51
AcidRain_Devme, you cannot download anything for windows directly04:53
AcidRain_u CAN download anything for linux directly04:53
konobilies04:54
AcidRain_only truth is here04:54
w4|k3rbabinlonston, Which Ubuntu version were you using?04:54
CarlFKbabinlonston: io error - I suspect a disk error, and not enough of the system has been loaded to handle it gracefully04:54
qin_konobi: pid 1265 is pretty low, you would want to boot in text and get snap of logs to see.04:55
AcidRain_why does ubuntu report that i have 64gig of ram?04:56
AcidRain_oh. cause i rly do. ;)04:56
ridethespirallotuspsychje, it worked04:56
ridethespirallotuspsychje, but my resolution is super low, and unity is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuper slow04:56
ridethespirallotuspsychje, it was never this slow (even with the radeon off)04:56
konobiqin_: you do know that pid's get reused? especially over time?04:57
w4|k3rbabinlonston, That's a kernel panic - either hardware as suggested by CarlFK or some memory issue04:57
bufferlossso I did a release upgrade “in place” from 13.10 to 14.04 using do-release-upgrade04:57
bufferlossI can boot recovery mode and my DE works fine, but in regular mode I just get a black screen04:58
qin_konobi: do not think it is the case04:58
bufferlossI’m thinking/guessing my nvidia drivers didn’t get configured or didn’t get configured correctly04:58
bufferlossbut how would I check for this04:58
bufferlossand how can I troubleshoot my normal boot sequence if it has a blank/black screen04:58
konobiqin_: you're obviously clueless then04:59
DevmeThanks everyone...04:59
ridethespiralhow do i fix my graphics after install with nomodeset04:59
CarlFKbufferloss: I ssh in from another box (laptop... old machine... friends machine...)04:59
ridethespiral& it's really slow04:59
w4|k3rbufferloss, go into memtest mode, check for the xorg packages04:59
w4|k3rbufferloss, I think there is a command from terminal/cl session which could reconfigure the x-org packages05:00
w4|k3rbufferloss,05:01
w4|k3rbufferloss, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- this command should fix the x11 packages for you05:01
rusty__ok CarlFK, might not be a hardware issue at all. dhcp here appears to be fubar so manual set network details. however something still fucked, i can ping gateway but cannot get on the web gui on :8005:01
bufferlossw4|k3r: ok cool thanks I’ll try that05:02
kam270why are the russians the best programmers ?05:02
bufferlossw4|k3r: not sure however how to use memtest mode to do this05:02
bufferlosscan’t seem do do anything other than run memtest in memtest mode05:02
bufferlossthough I can go in to recovery mode05:02
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bluezonekam270, in russia, program, program u!05:03
bufferlossw4|k3r: so I ran that command from the recovery console and there was no output at all05:04
bufferlossis that good?05:04
w4|k3rbufferloss, in memtest mode - you are eventually thrown into a terminal session right?05:04
cfhowlettkam270 bluezone please take jokes to #ubuntu-offtopic - this is the support channel.05:04
w4|k3rIn there try -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:05
bufferlossw4|k3r: no, not that I see so far05:05
ridethespiralhow does one fix the graphics resolution after installing with nomodeset????05:05
bufferlossk i’ll try again05:05
w4|k3rbufferloss, Where does the memtest take you after the completion of memtest?05:05
CarlFKw4|k3r: memtest - do you mean the memory test you can be loaded/run  from the grub boot loader?05:05
kam270rusty have you tried https05:05
w4|k3rCarlFK, I am not completely sure as to what the memtest actually does - but yes the option is displayed in the GRUB05:06
Beldarridethespiral, If you have to nomodeset to install, it is not still using that command in the kernel05:06
bufferlossw4|k3r: hmm, this is goind to take a long time05:07
CarlFKw4|k3r: bufferloss - memtest is nothing but the test app, there is no os/prompt/ antyhing else, so when you exit it, it just reboots05:07
w4|k3rCarlFK, I guess it checks for the blocks of memory and other such devices attached - RAM blocks and all05:07
bufferlossonly at 6%05:07
ridethespiralnomodeset install looks like 640x800 where as normal is my screen resolution.05:07
ridethespiral(when it worked lol)05:07
ridethespiralubuntu hates my laptop =/05:07
w4|k3rCarlFK, But a few days back, while I was experimenting with a library - I accidentally made some changes in the X11 packages making me to go into the05:08
w4|k3rblack screen05:08
w4|k3rAhh, sorry - bufferloss I think I ran recovery mode05:08
Beldarridethespiral, You would not have a nomodeset boot on the install unless you do it manually from grub, or add it to the kernel through grub.05:08
w4|k3rI guess I got the session in recovery mode05:08
bufferlossw4|k3r: yeah so I already did that05:09
bufferlossI used recovery mode and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:09
bufferlossand i got “zero output"05:09
w4|k3rin there when I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - it kinda fixed the packages for me, though I had to re-install bumblebee once again after that05:09
bufferlosswhich I don’t know if that’s good or bad05:09
ubuntuaddictedanyone else have issues with audacity and recording a usb microphone? for some reason playback is really fast and it's static BUT if i export it it's fine05:09
Beldarridethespiral, do a update and upgrade and look in additional drivers05:10
w4|k3rzero output - okay - can you paste the a screenshot/text of the data you are getting after running the command05:10
bufferlossw4|k3r: no data05:10
bufferlossthere’s literally no output, i just get dumped back to my prompt05:10
bufferlossI could paste you two prompts in a row if you like05:11
ridethespiralBeldar, this lin is in /etc/default/grub05:11
ridethespiralbeldar05:11
w4|k3rbufferloss, :D05:11
ridethespiralBeldar, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"05:11
ridethespiralshall i remove it05:11
Beldarridethespiral, Did you add it? this is after a reboot from a install?05:11
w4|k3rOkay, let me check for a bit05:11
ridethespiralyes Beldar , after a fresh install using nomodeset05:11
ridethespiralI didn't add it05:12
w4|k3rbufferloss, can you run this -> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:12
babinlonstonCarlFK: Omg its Disk issue05:12
babinlonstonw4|k3r: then i cant repair the grub05:13
zombu2which the io errors indicated05:13
Beldarridethespiral, Te only way you can have nomodeset there on a install is if you have added it, your question "how does one fix the graphics resolution after installing with nomodeset????" is not correct.05:13
BeldarThe*05:13
w4|k3rbufferloss, you can repair grub - I guess with the disk of Ubuntu you can fix that05:14
Beldarridethespiral, Just confusing is all.05:14
babinlonstonhttp://i60.tinypic.com/21c9yx5.jpg05:14
bufferlossw4|k3r: well I can’t run gdm stop from my non-recovery install because I can’t even get to the virtual terminals on e.g. CTRL-ALT-F105:14
w4|k3rbufferloss, But your problem is not with GRUB right? You can choose Ubuntu, only that X is not getting loaded05:14
bufferlossw4|k3r: don’t think the problem is with grub entirely, but not sure05:14
w4|k3rbufferloss, If it were GRUB, even my problem would not have been solved05:15
bufferlossI did use the x diagnostics in the settings menu to disable splash etc, I used all those options, and indeed i get a little bit of normal sysv style initialization output05:15
w4|k3rI had the similar issue - mine got fixed with the dpkg command05:15
bufferlossbut after that the screen just went black05:15
ridethespiralBefore installing, I set nomodeset to true because it would boot to a black screen without it. Normally when a live usb boot works, it works at the correct resolution of my screen. Trying to install ubuntu lately after this string of f---ing disasters has been a nightmare and the only way it will work is with nomodeset. I set nomodeset onboot of the live usb, installed ubuntu, and restarted. Nomodeset remains and ubuntu is not disp05:16
ridethespirallaying in my native resolution05:16
zombu2ctrl+alt+f2 and you get a shell05:16
w4|k3rbufferloss, by the way, which version of Ubuntu?05:16
bufferloss14.0405:16
w4|k3rokay, let me check05:16
bufferlossI just ran do-release-upgrade from 13.1005:16
zombu2that was a mistake lol05:16
ridethespirallotuspsychje, you there?05:17
Beldarridethespiral, So is this a you can't find the graphic drivers needed, so you can remove the nomodeset a low graphic boot?05:17
BlueAlchemyHi all, having an issue, need help with05:17
bufferlosszombu2: you may have missed the part about where that doesn’t work for me05:17
ridethespiralBeldar, I can find the graphics drivers _IF_ I could get the install to work without nomodeset05:17
w4|k3rbufferloss, Oh, I never upgraded from one version to another using that - what I did was re-install only the root components05:18
ridethespiralthe drivers don't fix my problem though because I'm using the graphics from the core i5, not the radeon05:18
Beldarridethespiral, That makes no sense to me, can you be clearer what that means?05:18
Beldarridethespiral, Installing drivers can be done from the desktop, the terminal, a TTY, a live cd, take a pick.05:19
Beldarno  nomodeset or not05:20
w4|k3rbufferloss, check out this link -> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/05:20
w4|k3rbufferloss, it says you need to remove all third party packages like from Nvidia and such05:20
w4|k3rbufferloss, Did you do that?05:20
bufferlosswell, not before I did the upgrade, no05:20
ridethespiralBeldar, a year ago, I installed ubuntu studio 12.04 perfectly fine. No issues. A week ago I went to upgrade to 14.04 and it installed but booted to a black screen. I used my old usb stick that had vanilla ubuntu 12.04.3 (which I had used before) but even that was booting to a black screen or crashing. Just weird errors. I downloaded 14.04 and threw it onto a usb stick. It boots to a black screen as well, so I tried nomodeset on the05:20
ridethespiral recommendation of someone else. Now it has worked, but ubuntu is not using the correct resolution of what my screen is capable05:20
bufferlossthe upgrader said it would be disabling stuff for me05:21
bufferlossso I asumed that would cover it05:21
zombu2the upgrade to 14.04 brings all kinds of issues05:21
ridethespiralBeldar, I don't know how else to describe it...05:21
Beldarridethespiral, Best of luck I can see I can't help. ;)05:21
zombu2it screwed my samba up05:21
ridethespiralBeldar, I want to just smash this laptop haha05:22
ridethespiralBuy one that people know agrees with ubuntu05:22
ridethespiral=/05:22
bufferlossseems there’s gotta be a fairly simple fix somehow05:22
bufferlossw4|k3r: the dpkg thing would seem like the right thing but it’s apparently not05:22
zombu2so you have the i5 video right05:22
zombu2that should run out of the box05:23
ridethespiralyes it does, but it's not displaying in 1280x76805:23
BlueAlchemySo anyway, I'm having an issue installing 14.04 (and because it's based on 13.10 and clearly has the same installer, also LinuxMint 16)05:23
ridethespiralI LITERALLY installed 12.04 yesterday and it worked fine. I rebooted today and it booted to black screen05:23
ridethespiralPerhaps it is very big hardware error? idk05:24
zombu2well i would run memtest for about 6 hours on it and see what that comes up with05:25
zombu2maybe it has a bad bit somewhere05:25
ridethespiralperhaps. I'll run it later and see what I come up with.. For now I'm going to try reinstalling a few different isos05:25
zombu2make sure you run it very very long05:26
zombu2like overnight05:26
ridethespiralI will run it overnight05:26
ridethespiral12 hours05:26
zombu2k05:26
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minimecridethespiral: Do I read you right? You have one of these laptops with two GPU Intel/AMD. What if you disable the radeon card once? See here--- -> https://gist.github.com/viniciusban/691770105:26
zombu2hmm 3 hours 9 minutes to download 170 gigs worth of stuff05:27
zombu2not bad05:27
ridethespiralminimec,  you are correct. I have disabled the radeon with an acpi_call module loaded in /etc/rc.local for the last two years. It is only after this fresh installs that I'm having issues. Even the usb that I've used many times to install 12.04 is giving me issues.05:28
zombu2ooooohhhhhhh05:28
w4|k3rEverywhere it seems that the issue is related to X05:28
minimecridethespiral: Ok. I see. So I don't have any further ideas to help you ;)05:29
ridethespiralbahahah. Thanks though :)05:29
zombu2i don t even know what rode those ppl to put a radeon on a intel machine05:29
ridethespiralIdk. It used to work fine until I plugged in an hdmi cord and it gives artifacts on the screen now lol. So I just disable it05:30
minimecridethespiral: Well. But normally /var/log/Xorg.0.log should give you some ideas, why the xserver cannot run...05:30
ridethespiralhow would one view that? when they can't get xserver to run :P05:31
ridethespiralI r kinda noob05:31
w4|k3rbufferloss, Try following this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69076005:31
w4|k3rbufferloss, instead of gdm - use lightdm05:31
w4|k3rbuffer05:31
minimecridethespiral: 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log' on the console.05:31
w4|k3rbufferloss, I guess you would be having lightdm, just check in /etc/lightdm05:32
zombu2if you see artifacts i would say it s a bad card either ram for the card is bad or the chip itself05:32
TrudkoHi guys, I am looking for some power management on ubuntu, I was used to have profiles in windows, but I cant find anything like that i Ubuntu05:32
ridethespiralIt's definitely the ati card itself. I'm guessing the BGA has become separated05:32
zombu2ah yes05:32
zombu2lots of these cards had issues like the nvidia chip in the dv6 and dv9 laptops05:33
zombu2even crapple had that issue05:33
Trudkoso far I found  laptop-mode-tools05:33
bufferlossw4|k3r: so I don’t actually have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file right now to be backed up in the first place05:34
ridethespiralI did a fresh install even as early as 4 months ago without issue, but it's only now that I'm hving troubles installing. I'm not quite certain it's because the ati card. Idk something's weird lol05:34
zombu2if all your installs have issues something prolly broke05:34
w4|k3rbufferloss, skip that then, even I did not have :)05:35
ridethespiralwindows 7 boots fine.. =/05:35
zombu2with video?05:35
ridethespiralyup05:35
ridethespiral;p;05:35
bufferlossw4|k3r: ok well then the next step says that dpkg will ask me a bunch of questions, but it does not05:35
ridethespirallol05:35
bufferlossI get simply “no output"05:35
zombu2run a benchmark and see what it does05:35
bufferlossas in i just get dumped straight back to prompt05:35
ridethespiralOk. I'll get into irc on my phone and reboot into windows05:36
w4|k3rbufferloss, It's throwing you to the prompt again? hmm05:36
bufferlossw4|k3r: yes, still throwing me back to the prompt05:36
w4|k3rbufferloss, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start05:37
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ridethespiralI seem to have misplaced my phone XD05:37
bufferlossw4|k3r: which I can’t do from my normal install05:38
bufferlossonly from the recovery install, in which I don’t really need to do that05:38
bufferlosscuz x works fine in recovery mode05:38
bufferlosswell, not “fine” the resolution is horible05:38
bufferlossbut it does work, my desktop environment loads and all that good stuff05:38
w4|k3rOkay, try rebooting into normal mode and check05:39
w4|k3rbufferloss, try rebooting into normal mode and see if it boots up05:41
bufferlossw4|k3r: hmm, I think it might almost be working05:41
bufferlossholy shit, yep05:41
bufferlossw4|k3r: I had to do this http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver05:41
bufferlossbut it works now after doing that05:41
yenicis there a way to make Unity nice in a triple monitor environment? mainly concerning the menu bar across all 3 monitors?05:42
yenicthis is 14.04 lts05:42
bufferlossyenic: well that presumes Unity is nice to begin with :P05:42
bufferlosssomethin something, gold plating a turd, yadda yadda05:43
yenicI've used xfce but that's a little too plain jane for me. Im ready to move beyond Windows 95 ripoffs05:44
w4|k3rbufferloss, I hope it is working fine now in your system05:44
yenicI really like Unity's Win7 dock ripoff though.05:44
bufferlosswhy do things have to be “ripoffs”05:44
yenicI'd like to keep it other than the menu bar on all 3 screens.05:44
yenicbecause they popularized it first.05:44
bufferlossideas are synthesized05:44
bufferlossIP is BS05:44
bufferlossso what if something’s popular, XFCE isn’t a “windows ripoff"05:45
ridethespiralSo what kind of benchmark should I perform lol05:45
bufferlossit works in a sane way as far as a desktop goes and is massively configureable05:45
w4|k3rbufferloss, I would rather say - windows is a Linux rip off now05:45
yenicI'm sure 99% of people like XFCE or similar systems because it takes them back to 'what they're used to' aka Win95-XP.05:45
bufferlossyenic: not sure how being able to have like 20 panels is in any way NEAR what windows can do05:45
bufferlossyenic: with that said, I use KDE these days :P05:45
bufferlossand it’s pretty awesome actually, I used to hate it05:45
yenicI'll have to try KDE. Not particularly swooning for any linux desktop honestly.05:46
bufferlossbut now unity and gnome3 pissed me off so much I went back to XFCE, and then someone broke some packages and hosed my workstation so I went to KDE05:46
xanguayenic: how about you focus in explain what is exactly the features you want/miss05:46
bufferlossmeh, I don’t swoon for desktops, that’s childish05:46
bufferlossKDE pretty much works, haven’t had an issue yet05:46
bufferlossback a few years ago, KDE used to segfault its own control panel (really bad)05:46
bufferlossbut seems to be solid these days05:46
yenicWin7 is pretty solid as a desktop UI. Pretty much ideal, wish I could develop in Windows though, but I can't.05:46
jim___My wireless card is not working, right when i start pc it says disconnected05:46
w4|k3rbufferloss, KDE and Gnome are what I like to use05:46
w4|k3rUnity is a bit clumsy05:47
bufferlossyeah I can’t stand unity05:47
bufferlossI’d rather use fluxbox05:47
yenicxangua, just want the top menu bar on 1 chosen screen, just as the taskbar is.05:47
yenicwhich would be the sensical way to implement it honestly.05:48
w4|k3rbufferloss, since I run some gfx utilisation softwares - I usually try to use Unity only - I have already screwed up once while trying to get a pckage installed05:48
yenicxangua, or just remove the top menu bar altogether. And put the time and date on the taskbar.. but then I'll be back to Win7's UI, which is OK.05:49
jim___my wireless card is not working what are ways i could try to fix this05:50
xanguayenic: taskbar¿ you mean unity launcher¿05:50
yenicyes commonly known as a taskbar for the past 20 years05:51
bufferlosser what?05:52
bufferlossw4|k3r: what are “gfx utilization softwares"05:52
w4|k3rBlender, SDL, Irrlicht, SFML and the like05:52
w4|k3rSome are packages, Blender is a software05:53
bufferlossI’m familiar with both Blender and SDL not the others05:53
bufferlossI see no reason at all Blender wouldn’t run in KDE05:53
w4|k3rI also use Matlab - for AI and all05:53
bufferlossSDL is, well, it’s a lib, so that’s unrelated basically05:53
bufferlosser, there’s a linux version of matlab?05:53
w4|k3rNo blender would definitely run in KDE05:53
bufferloss(me thinks not)05:53
bufferlossoctave > matlab05:54
w4|k3rI just got fed up with the DMs, I only use Gnome now - sticking to only one05:54
w4|k3rI know there's Octave, but I have been using Matlab for quite some time, hence not moving on to Octave05:54
xanguayenic: if you don't like the menu to show in the panel you can set it to show in the application window, go to your Appearence settings, behavior and check to show menus in the  window05:54
bufferlossxangua: but that would be “ripping off” mac os, and of course, yenic would never want to use anything that could ever be seen as a “ripoff"05:56
yenicbullshit, I just want things ripped off correctly.05:57
yenicrip it off well or dont bother.05:57
i_pity_da_foois it "browsable" or "browseable"?05:57
cfhowlettyenic language - keep it clean.05:57
xangua!language  | yenic05:57
ubottuyenic: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList05:57
yenichow about snarky insults, got a filter for that.05:58
bufferlossI’d rather have a filter for straw men, personally05:59
yenicyou just don't read well, that's the problem. You think I dislike ripoffs but didn't take the time before leaping on me as some sort of IP troll.05:59
yenicget lost.05:59
bufferlossyou don’t rhetoric well, straw men all over the place06:00
cfhowlettyenic interesting topic but please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic06:00
Vivekanandaon connecting to a vpn of my friend I loose internet even when I have checked - use this connection only for resources on this network.   What else should I do ? ubuntu 12.0406:03
bufferlossVivekananda: that’s often pretty common, you need to mark whatever setting allows you to pass through to the regular internet through that interface06:06
bufferlossforget the name of the setting06:06
ridethespiralJust did a fresh 14.04 install without nomodeset and ati card enabled. It worked but once it boots to desktop it freezes. Solo confused06:07
ridethespiralSoo* lol06:07
ridethespiralHow much space is needed for root? I have a 32gb ssd with 4gb swap. Can I do dual 14gb root partitions for separate versions?06:09
ridethespiralI've never seen root get bigger than 9gb06:09
bufferlossridethespiral: vms usually ask for 12g06:09
bufferlossso probably, I would def personally prefer to have like a 20g root partition, but it’s not that big of a deal I guess06:09
ridethespiralYeah I feel safer a bigger root partition lol. Oh well. :)06:10
night0w1I get by with 10-15GB easily but they are minimalistic testing VMs06:10
night0w1I also prefer not to run VMs on SSDs due to the write intensity, though it depends what you are doing with the VM and the write cycles it is rated for06:12
ridethespiralI'm not running a vm06:13
bufferlossridethespiral: likely all the more reason to allocate more space06:13
ridethespiralBlaaaaaaargh why does windows work absolutely fine but I can't even get Ubuntu installed. After I've been using it for years on this laptop!06:14
night0w1ah, sorry06:14
bufferlosscuz you get what you pay for I suppose06:14
ridethespiralLol?06:14
bufferlosswindows pretty much always has more widespread hardware support06:14
night0w1ridethespiral, is there a specific issue that prevents you from installing it?06:14
bufferlossubuntu’s been pretty good for me, but I’m on a desktop06:15
ridethespiralI can't figure out the issue. 14.04 installs but freezes at desktop.. 12.04 won't boot past Ubuntu logo06:15
ridethespiral12.04 I was using for the longest time then I tried a fresh install of 14.04. The saying is right. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it lol06:16
bufferlossridethespiral: laptop might be the key problem06:16
bufferloss*nix has always been notoriously fickle on laptops06:16
night0w1any other info provided? and have you tried alternate modes of booting, namely one that does not use gfx much?06:17
bufferlossso much proprietary consumer hardware out there06:17
bufferlossridethespiral: what about 13.10 ?06:17
ridethespiralIt has worked fine for the last two years. At one point I had 13.10 installed and running good but there were a few issues so I went back to 12.0406:17
bufferlossweird, sounds like hardware failure then if you used to run it06:18
night0w1i personally look at linux support before buying a laptop06:18
ridethespiralI bought it 3 years ago before I got into Ubuntu. :p06:18
bufferlosswell that’s probably the main reason it doesn’t work (well) with ubuntu06:18
w4|k3rridethespiral, Specs?06:19
bufferlossridethespiral: try an install without Xorg, and then try installing and booting a plain xorg server, no display manager or anything06:19
bufferlossthen try something simple like fluxbox06:19
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* night0w1 nods06:19
ridethespiralWorked fine with 12.04.3 and even 12.04 studio. I've done fresh install as early as a few months ago06:19
night0w1gfx can be a PITA06:19
ridethespiralThat's why I'm so confused06:20
night0w1ridethespiral, have you run any diagnostic tools on the laptop?06:20
ridethespiralLike? Lol06:20
bufferlossfsck06:20
bufferlossmemtest06:20
night0w1Id rule out hardware just to make sure06:20
ridethespiralI will do memtest overnight later06:20
night0w1memtest 86+ and a good extended HDD test/with SMART attributes06:20
night0w1Hirens boot CD is free (not GPL) but great for that06:21
ridethespiralCan I so the HDD teat via command line? Last time I tried it kept failing for some reason (not the HDD)06:21
ridethespiralIn recovery mode or something like that?06:22
night0w1badbloks can be used, and the gnome disk utility as well as gsmartcontrol can get SMART attrs06:22
ridethespiralI'm only mediocre at Ubuntu lol06:22
night0w1my personal preference is Victoria on the Hirens boot CD, it runs within MiniXP. It in my opinion is the best HDD tester out there, however any extended test will do06:23
bufferlossridethespiral: well I think you should try to get a little less mediocre and install a text-only version of ubuntu06:24
bufferlossthat should work for you as you said you can get all the way until your desktop screen06:24
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bufferlossso graphics sort of work, do an xorg config from a text-only install and see if you can get that to work06:24
bufferlossyou should be able to basically just log in to a text only install and run startx06:24
bufferlossthen you can see what’s going wrong06:25
night0w1ridethespiral, cli testing of the hdd can be done via (as root)#badblocks -v /dev/sda06:25
igoryonyacan't figure out how to redirect standard and error output into different variables06:33
igoryonyaI tried: var_file=$(ls file_that_don_t_exist file_that_exists) 2>&1| var_err=$(cat)06:35
Vivekanandabuffer loss are you still around06:37
igoryonyaalso, tried: var_err=$(var_file=$(ls file_that_don_t_exist file_that_exists) 2>&1)06:37
igoryonyacan't figure out how to redirect standard and error output into different variables06:37
igoryonyacan't figure out how to redirect standard and error output into different variables06:37
igoryonyain bash06:38
babinlonstonnow i want to find some log files those are greater than 50M in Directory and i want to remove them, if i execute this command Will it happen ?      find . -size +50M -exec rm -rf {} \06:39
babinlonstonfind . -size +50M -exec rm -rf {} \;06:39
igoryonyababinlonston, yes, only your string will find all files that are bigger then 50Mb, you could do something like this: find . -iname '*.log' -size +50M -exec rm -rf {} \; also, you might have to use sudo.06:42
babinlonstonigoryonya: oh fine thanks to pointing out the file extensions06:44
igoryonyababinlonston: welcome06:46
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dcajacob05what's the best/easiest way to host your own local apt repo?  Not so much for mirroring (though that's sweet), but for corporate debs?06:48
dcajacob05I've seen a few different options out there, but have no experience to judge them06:49
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bazhang!ppa | dcajacob0506:50
ubottudcajacob05: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge06:50
igoryonyadcajacob05, the easiest: just put your debs in the same structure as on DVD to the apache or any other web server and add the paths to the top of sources.list to all of the computers on the lan06:50
igoryonyadcajacobs05, but it will warn you about signatures06:51
Vivekanandaoo nice ppl are still around06:52
Vivekanandawas hoping someone would advice me why on connecting to a vpn network I loose internet ?06:52
Vivekanandaalso what happens when vpn get connected ? do I get a pop up with the remote desktop view or what do I get06:53
dcajacob05thanks guys06:54
hmagooyou remote desktop after you're connected to the vpn, vpn is just a "route" through a tunnel for your network connection06:54
dcajacob05ppas are hosted by canonical, yes?06:54
stemidhow do I use rhythmbox-client in tmux or in an irssi script? so far it only seems to work in a plain gnome-terminal window.06:55
hmagoodcajacob05, no06:55
dcajacob05hmagoo: OK, I see mroe detail on the Help page06:55
Madpilotdcajacob05, they're hosted by Launchpad, which is owned by Canonical. Canonical does not control PPAs, though.06:56
hmagoohosted as in the pages which detail them but the servers no06:56
dcajacob05OK.  But it's not something you can do privately06:56
igoryonyaa little bit harder way, you have to regenerate a package database (Packages file) with a dpkg-sanpackages and a checksum (Release.gpg file) after that with md5sum utility06:58
igoryonyadcajacob05, a little bit harder way, you have to regenerate a package database (Packages file) with a dpkg-sanpackages and a checksum (Release.gpg file) after that with md5sum utility06:58
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dcajacob05Cool.  I'll prob start out with something simple and work my way up.06:59
dcajacob05FWIW, it looks like they do have private PPAs for subscribers, but it's not the way I'll go07:03
igoryonyaVivekananda, in your vpn network settings you have to take the checkmark off that says to us vpn as the default route if you are VPNing from windows, and, if you are using Network Manager on linux, check the box use this connection only for resources on this network, located in routes section.07:07
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igoryonyaVivekananda, I ment to use vpn, not to 'us' vpn07:07
Vivekanandaigoryonya: using ubunu client and checked the necessary but still loosing connection07:08
igoryonyaVivekananda: do this: 'route -n' before you connect to the vpn and after, and show me the results.07:10
igoryonyaAlso, if you want a remote desktop, you have to use VNC or some similar utility over the connected VPN, or you could use SSH tunnel instead of VPN, in certain cases.07:11
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igoryonyaVivekananda: Also, if you want a remote desktop, you have to use VNC or some similar utility over the connected VPN, or you could use SSH tunnel instead of VPN, in certain cases.07:11
WHT-Robop07:11
m1dnighttest?07:12
Madpilothmm?07:13
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stemidhey I'm wondering about DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS, it seems to be set to two different things in two different shells. and this causes programs that started days ago to fail to control dbus stuff. is this because gnome starts dbus? should I start it myself with a fixed unix:path instead?07:22
stemidI just don't understand why ubuntu would do it this way because it breaks things07:22
tristann2_'jour07:23
Vivekanandaigoryonya: there ?   https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c75907:23
tristann2_quesh est là ?07:23
stemid!fr07:24
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.07:24
m1dnightguys, can anyone help me out?07:25
m1dnighti have installed a new router07:25
m1dnightand when I open irssi it keeps disconnecting my terminal07:25
m1dnightI have enourmous lag (on the VM itself..)07:25
m1dnightshould be network related I presume07:25
m1dnight(if you guys can read this that is xD)07:25
Vivekanandahey everyone07:26
Madpilotm1dnight, we can read it, not sure how to help, though07:26
Vivekanandaigoryonya: around ?07:26
Vivekanandaif you are https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c75907:26
stemidyou have installed a new router in your network m1dnight and now you're asking ubuntu for help. is it an ubuntu router?07:26
Vivekanandasorry got dc07:26
igoryonyaVivekanand: just a sec07:27
Guest63859is anyone here?07:27
igoryonyaVivekananda: just a sec07:27
TomyLobohi07:28
Guest63859hi TomyLobo07:28
Guest63859I think I did something disastrous,  please let me know if this is true07:28
TomyLoboi'm currently upgrading 13.04 to 13.10 and i have a few questions about that dialog box where it lists what's going to be done:07:28
Guest63859oh, you are seeking answers too TomyLobo07:29
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TomyLobowhat does "no longer supported" mean? was the package removed from the repositories? will it stay on my machine?07:29
thoonaigood morning07:29
ubuntuser13dash not showing apps ,saying no results found07:29
TomyLobowhy is kdm being "Removed (was auto installed)"?07:29
TomyLobois there a replacement for kdm in kubuntu 13.10 or is that a problem with the update mechanism?07:30
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thoonaion my server runs a mpd instance and if I mount the music folder via sshfs every track is playable and in the database, but if I mount the folder via webdav only a hundredth of the tracks is recognized and mpd stops working. Any idea how I solve that?07:32
BeldarTomyLobo, Is there a remove and install list?07:32
TomyLoboBeldar it has "no longer supported", "install", "remove", "remove (was auto installed)" and "upgrade"07:32
colin_shenhi...what does the mean of "You're banned! "07:32
TomyLobocolin_shen it means you cant go there anymore07:33
colin_shenwhy?07:33
TomyLobocolin_shen would need some context to answer that07:33
colin_shensoory...i got a problem...07:33
Madpilotcolin_shen, from an IRC channel here on Freenode?07:33
Vivekanandaokay07:33
BeldarTomyLobo, I would have to see a screen shot, I never upgrade, it is not that uncommon for removals when the there is a updated replacement, you might check if this is the case.07:34
TomyLoboBeldar just a screenshot off google images of this dialog or the actual thing?07:34
colin_sheni can not see the whole sentence (may be more than 5 words.) typed by some uses...07:35
BeldarTomyLobo, what your looking at.07:35
TomyLobocolin_shen we need context to answer your question07:35
BeldarDETAILS07:35
Vivekanandasadly I am soon about to doze off07:35
Vivekananda:(07:35
TomyLoboBeldar ok07:35
colin_shenwhat about i send you a picture?07:36
TomyLobohttp://ctrlv.in/33274507:36
TomyLobocolin_shen just tell us what software you're using, first of all07:37
thescorpHm, anyone had an issue where Ubuntu 14.04 keeps changing the sound sources after a reboot?07:37
colin_shenxchat07:37
TomyLobook that's a start07:37
TomyLobowhich channel do you want to join?07:37
colin_shenlinux mint07:37
TomyLobohave you been there before?07:37
colin_shenyes...07:37
TomyLobowhat's the channel name?07:38
kostkon!mint07:38
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:38
colin_shensorry..i cant see the words after channel........07:38
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thescorpExpand your xchat window.07:38
TomyLoboBeldar http://ctrlv.in/33274507:39
colin_shen...it does't work...07:39
thoonaion my server runs a mpd instance and if I mount the music folder via sshfs every track is playable and in the database, but if I mount the folder via webdav only a hundredth of the tracks is recognized and mpd stops working. Any idea how I solve that?07:39
TomyLoboi have no idea why i even have radeontool07:39
TomyLoboconsidering that i have an nvidia chip07:39
BeldarTomyLobo, kdm is in the repos, not sure on the auto notation.07:39
Madpilotcolin_shen, fullscreen xchat shouldn't have a character limit...07:40
TomyLoboBeldar well i set a ton of stuff to auto when i tried to slim down kde a bit07:40
TomyLoboapparently nothing requires kdm anymore07:40
colin_shenit seems like like the words (typed thoonai and beldar) i can see the whole sentence...07:40
TomyLobocolin_shen right-click xchat's title bar and click maximize07:41
BeldarTomyLobo, I have no idea what stuff to auto means is all.07:41
TomyLoboBeldar hmm, then you probably cant help me with this :/07:41
colin_shenit still doesn't work...07:42
agent_whitethoonai: What's wrong with sshfs?07:43
wuyue__大家好07:44
thoonaiagent_white: sshfs over vpn is quite some overkill for an vm cpu07:44
wuyue__我是合肥的07:44
TomyLobothoonai then dont use vpn? sshfs is secure on its own07:45
TomyLobowuyue__ try english07:45
bazhang!cn | wuyue__07:45
ubottuwuyue__: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:45
TomyLoboor that07:45
igoryonyaVivekananda: this route could possibly cause a problem, because it routs your lan to be on the other side of the VPN: '192.168.1.0 10.8.0.5 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 tun0', and your default gateway for the internet is on that same network. I think that, possibly, it's looking for 192.168.1.1 on the other side of the network, therefore, it'strying to get the internet through that 192.168.1.1 that's located remotely.07:45
wuyue__sorry  i dont speak  english07:45
wuyue__i  m    out07:46
thoonaiTomyLobo: I can't let the vpn go because then I can't access the NAS at all07:46
wuyue__8807:46
TomyLoboi see07:46
TomyLobothoonai iirc, ssh can transmit unencrypted07:47
agent_whiteWhat was wuyue__ speaking? Need to know my xterm does not support that charset :P07:47
TomyLobolooked like chinese07:47
Madpilotagent_white, looked like English from here07:47
igoryonyaVivekananda, you there? I think, you need to remove that route after you connect to the VPN and see if it helps07:47
agent_whiteMadpilot: Odd. What emulator you use?07:47
agent_whiteI'm on xterm.07:47
MadpilotAgent_Smith_BR, xchat in desktop07:48
TomyLobothoonai if it ever existed, it might not actually be possible to use that option anymore due to security concerns though07:48
thoonaiTomyLobo: o.O07:49
agent_whiteMadpilot: Ahhh okeydoke ;D07:49
TomyLoboagent_white make sure you set it to utf-8 too :)07:50
agent_whiteTomyLobo: I have! At least I think I did... that's what's odd! :P07:50
agent_whiteTomyLobo: Yup, `$LANG` => "en_US.UTF-"07:51
TomyLoboboxes?07:51
agent_white "en_US.UTF-8"**07:51
agent_whiteTomyLobo: Nah just whitespace :i07:51
TomyLobodo you see boxes? question marks? strange extended latin characters?07:51
dw1hmm, why is mysql default charset utf8 on 14.04 desktop and latin on 14.04 server07:52
agent_whiteTomyLobo: Nope! Whitespace... though I copied the "invisible" line from irssi into chromium, and saw chinese characters.07:52
TomyLoboodd07:52
thoonaiTomyLobo: ok, didn't found anything ^^07:52
bekksdw1: Because thats the only sane charset nowadays :)07:53
thoonaioh yeah and I don't like to set up multiple users for random clients on my NAS07:53
agent_whitethoonai: Does it have anything to do with webdav being connection-less as opposed to sshfs?07:53
dw1perhaps i created teh dbs differently07:53
TomyLobobekks read the 2nd part of his question07:53
agent_whiteHTTP proto vs SSH.07:53
bekksdw1: the package is the same, so you must have changed the default.07:54
thoonaiagent_white: don't know that.07:54
TomyLobothoonai do you have any other unencrypted choices?07:54
thoonaiatm I try it with lighty07:54
TomyLobolike *shudder* smb07:54
thoonaiTomyLobo: no07:54
dw1bekks: yeah i think i figured it out - i chose collation utf8 when creating db on one not the other. my bad07:54
thoonaiespecially not smb ^^07:54
TomyLoboreally? just webdav and ssh?07:54
agent_whitethoonai: Neither did I! Just googled 'webdav ubuntu' and saw that it was based on HTTP... so I'm assuming that looking it uses datagrams.07:55
thoonaiTomyLobo: I can set it up, but I want a proper fix for my problem not creating a whole haystack of problems ^^07:56
thoonaiTomyLobo: I see NFS, SMB and SSH as problems when transfering data07:56
agent_whitethoonai: Just curious... how much of a difference is it using sshfs compared to webdav? Why not use sshfs?07:56
TomyLobothoonai i see webdav as one07:56
thoonaiagent_white: between 10 and 20% cpu load?07:57
TomyLoboand your experience with it seems to confirm that :)07:57
agent_whitethoonai: Oh my! :(07:57
agent_whitethoonai: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Streaming_With_Icecast_and_MPD ??07:58
thoonaiTomyLobo: thats right, and youre right and that makes me feel uncomfortable, because then I have to worry about users, ACLs for read allowances and a more powerful vm host07:58
TomyLoboso if you can even use nfs, why not that?07:59
thoonaiagent_white: even if the machine would have full load on the processor it wouldnt be bad if it wouldnt be on a vm ^^07:59
thoonaiTomyLobo: because I tried to ignore NFS more or less successfull the last 5 years and I'm lazy ^^08:00
agent_whiteAhhh... you might need to step back and consider other options other than MPD?08:00
thoonaiagent_white: I would if I would knew some nice alternative08:01
TomyLobook this is getting weird08:01
agent_whitethoonai: :P Do you use MPC to play files on the MPD computer?08:01
thoonaiagent_white: ympd yes08:02
thoonaiTomyLobo: *sigh* I'll try NFS ^^08:02
TomyLoboI'm updating kubuntu 13.04 to 13.10. Now it wants to remove kdm, even though i set it to manually installed. what's going on? is there a replacement?08:02
thoonaiagent_white: TomyLobo thx, I'll get back later. gtg08:07
thoonaigoodbye08:07
TomyLobobye and good luck08:07
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m1dnighthey guys08:16
m1dnightwhat are the permissions on the ssh folders on my *server* ?08:16
m1dnightI can't seem to get my ssh to work08:16
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m1dnightI always get permission denied when I do ssh-copy-id08:17
Guest64114Hi, I just upgraded to 14.04, but I have lost the graphical user interface now. Is it a known bug? I can only access the terminal via ctrl+alt+5 for instance08:18
Guest64114Is there a way to get back the X server?08:18
Guest64114Sorry I meant  ctrl+alt+F5 of course08:19
Guest64114The command 'startx' gives me a black empty screen08:21
mitt3nsGuest64114: By 'GUI' do you mean your whole desktop? (Desktop environment)08:21
m1dnighthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162520508:22
m1dnightlooked at this yet?08:22
m1dnightfirst hit on google :p08:22
mitt3nsAnd what was your prior desktop environment, or if you didn't have one, your window manager?08:22
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=== Guest926 is now known as NixMD
mitt3nsGuest64114: If you're typing `startx`, what's the last line in your ~/.xinitrc file?08:24
Guest64114Yes exactly. At startup I have the usual menu to select which kernel I want to select. Then after just a black screen. I access a terminal via ctrl+alt+F5 and type 'startx' and I get again the same black screen. Now if I go again to the same terminal I see the error 'libkmod-module.c:809 kmod_module_insert could not find module b y name='nvidia_33108:25
Guest64114'08:25
Guest64114I was using gnome08:25
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Guest64114@mitt3ns this file doesn't exist (empty in vi)08:28
francescorizzutociao08:28
francescorizzuto!list08:28
ubottufrancescorizzuto: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:28
agent_whiteGuest64114: Instead of `startx`, what if you type `exec gnome-session` ?08:29
m1dnightcould anyone help me debug my ssh problem?08:30
m1dnightI'm getting really bothered by it :(08:30
agent_whitem1dnight: Ask, don't ask to ask!08:30
agent_whiteGuest64114: `startx` calls `.xinitrc`08:30
m1dnightI just put in a new router this morning (nothing changed really, ip's remain the same, ports opened remain the same..)08:30
agent_whiteSo if nothing is there, nothing is called!08:30
m1dnightand now I can't connect to my ssh properly anymore08:31
m1dnightI have access to the machine itself though08:31
m1dnighteverything works fine there08:31
m1dnightbut I use irssi for IRC for example, but it has serious lag08:31
btcbuy314how would i get a youtube url of first video based on search .    say i search "hey jude beatles" how do i get the url of the first video that comes up?08:32
BeldarGuest64114, startx is deprecated not correct, Have you installed drivers since the upgrade?08:32
Speirosjoin#freenode08:32
Guest64114@agent_white thanks for the suggestion. When typing this command it logs me out of the session and nothing else happens08:32
SpeirosOh, I'm on ubuntu already.  Cool.  Can someone help me please upload a debian using terminal, as I got help on here before, but formatted my drive, including all instructions.08:33
Guest64114@beldar no I have not installed any prop drivers for the graphic card since the upgrade08:33
BeldarGuest64114, You might do that, you could try a safe x boot from the recovery, might get you a low graphic gui.08:34
btcbuy314how would i get a youtube url of first video based on search .    say i search "hey jude beatles" how do i get the url of the first video that comes up?08:34
btcbuy314please08:34
agent_whiteGuest64114: Hm. There might be something going on with your video card... do you have the latest drivers?08:36
agent_whitebtcbuy314: From a web scraper!08:36
lapionis this a ubuntu-only thing or does grub still rely on i386 modules ?08:36
agent_whiteoops08:36
Speirosbtcbuy314 wouldn't you open it and copy and paste from the address bar?08:36
ido370btcbuy314: https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/code_samples/python08:36
agent_whiteBeldar seems to be on the case! ;D08:36
m1dnighthey guys08:37
m1dnightis the "auto eth0" line needed?08:37
m1dnightI have "auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static"08:37
Guest64114@agent_white @Beldar thanks for your help so far I will try to reinstall the graphic card drivers08:37
m1dnightI don't remember that line being there08:37
m1dnightbut i'm asking to be sure08:37
btcbuy314Speiros: i want to make a program that creates a webpage with embedded videos from a text file that just has a search phrase on each line08:38
somsip!minimal08:38
Speirosbtcbuy314 I see.  Sorry, I only have basic knowledge...if that even.08:38
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD08:38
MagePsychohi i have images scattered under sub directories.. how to move them up to the root?08:39
btcbuy314Speiros: i know how to do everything except, get the video urls based on first video in search08:39
m1dnightso anyone who can help me with my problem??08:41
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Beldarlapion, You might ask in #grub08:48
IceburrrrrIs this an appropriate channel to ask about ssh & ubuntu?08:57
thoonaiagent_white: TomyLobo: I solved the Problem with NFS08:58
agent_white!! :D08:58
thoonai?08:59
agent_whitethoonai: Good to hear! Thanks for the update!08:59
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agent_white :)08:59
thoonaiagent_white: NFS consumes as much cpu as sshfs ^^08:59
thoonaiwait one thing I didtn checked ...09:00
m1dnightIceburrrrr Ive been asking my question as well :p09:02
m1dnightno answer09:02
m1dnightmaybe I can help you09:02
m1dnightotherwise ask it on askubuntu.com09:03
cfhowlettm1dnight Iceburrrrr consider asking ##linux09:03
IceburrrrrTyvm.09:03
thoonaiagent_white: oops09:05
thoonaithere is no difference between each method09:05
thoonai;)09:05
thoonaiprobably the amount of data is too little to make a difference09:06
An_Ony_Moosehow do I stop display managers from getting started on boot?09:06
chenqisu123哈罗09:07
sam_hai09:07
thoonai!cn09:07
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw09:07
bazhang!nox | An_Ony_Moose09:07
ubottuAn_Ony_Moose: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode09:07
m1dnight_FUCKING HELL I FIXED IT09:09
m1dnight_\o/09:10
cfhowlett!guidelines|m1dnight_ NO PROFANITY!!!09:10
ubottum1dnight_ NO PROFANITY!!!: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines09:10
m1dnight_oh okay :(09:10
m1dnight_sorry09:10
m1dnight_let me rephrase09:10
m1dnight_EXQUISITE I SOLVED IT09:10
m1dnight_:D09:10
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cfhowlettm1dnight_ better.  congratulations09:10
An_Ony_Moosebazhang: is it then still possible to start the display manager manually?09:10
bazhangAn_Ony_Moose, sure09:11
thoonaigtg bye09:11
An_Ony_Moosebazhang: thanks!09:12
KabraxisHey there people09:12
KabraxisI'm new to Ubuntu and need help with a repeating permission problem.09:12
cfhowlett!details|Kabraxis09:12
ubottuKabraxis: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)09:12
sam_<Kabraxis>what happen09:13
KabraxisIt seems like Ubuntu is stripping down all my permissions whenever I do something. I mean, literally, something. It's gone suddenly when I open Nautilus, or connect remotely with TeamViewer09:14
MonkeyDustsam_  type kab [tab], see what happens09:14
Kabraxisetc.09:14
sam_ <MonkeyDust> i did not understand please explain your question clearly09:15
MonkeyDust!tab | sam_ more clearly09:15
ubottusam_ more clearly: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:15
bazhang!tab | sam_09:15
ubottusam_: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:15
KabraxisI should have to run that "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" and enter my passphrase everytime I run Nautilus09:16
Kabraxisthen it will work fine until next time I open Nautilus09:16
KabraxisIt just encrypts my folders, don't let me run anything and don't let me connect with remote.09:18
svarara09:18
KabraxisIt's a kind of problem that hard to google.09:21
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stercorTroubles getting an SMTP password from Thunderbird to google.09:23
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agent_whitebtcbuy314: Still looking for that answer? I wrote a script for you to find the url of the first video :)09:26
btcbuy314how would i get a youtube url of first video based on search .    say i search "hey jude beatles" how do i get the url of the first video that comes up?09:27
agent_whitebtcbuy314: I wrote you a script in Ruby to do that.09:30
agent_whitebtcbuy314: https://gist.github.com/jakenotjacob/c0abf52d60495625120a09:30
local_hi all; about the unity launcher: after having messed up its config, is there an easy way to restore it to reasonable default setup? I can't find docs for how it stores its config09:31
local_for a trusty install, btw09:31
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Beldaradminewb, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html09:32
sam_hai any body knows kickstart in ubuntu09:33
adminewbthanks Beldar09:33
agent_whitebtcbuy314: require 'nokogiri'09:34
agent_whiterequire 'open-uri'09:34
agent_whiteputs "Enter your search terms: "09:34
agent_whiteterms = gets.chomp09:34
agent_whiteterms = terms.split(" ").join("+")09:34
agent_whitedoc = Nokogiri::HTML(open("https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=#{terms}"))09:34
unopasteagent_white you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted09:34
cfhowlettagent_white this would be a good time to paste ...09:35
agent_whitecfhowlett: Mispasted my code instead of the URL to it.09:36
agent_whiteWoopsies!09:36
MonkeyDustagent_white  btcbuy314 i'm trying the script in a chroot09:36
agent_whiteMonkeyDust: https://gist.github.com/jakenotjacob/c0abf52d60495625120a I updated it since first pasting it a couple minutes ago.09:36
agent_whiteEnter your search terms separated by spaces, and it will return the url to the video of the first result. :)09:37
sl33k_How much time does it take to run windows from virtual machine?09:38
agent_whitebtcbuy314: At least, that's how _I_ would do it in Ruby. I would recommend checking out http://ruby.bastardsbook.com/chapters/html-parsing/ if you are looking to learn webscraping in Ruby.09:38
cfhowlettsl33k_ many factors - it depends.09:38
MonkeyDustsl33k_  time it takes to create a virtual machine and install windows09:38
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m1dnightwhat do you eamn with "run windows"?09:43
m1dnightto set it up, you mean?09:43
MonkeyDustagent_white  in a 14.04 chroot: "youtube.rb:6:in `<main>': undefined method `join' for "beatles":String (NoMethodError)"09:47
agent_whiteMonkeyDust: Re-open the URL, I added in the fix for that!09:47
agent_whiteMonkeyDust: It needed to be `terms.split(" ").join("+")` on line#6 instead of `terms.join("+")`09:48
agent_whiteMonkeyDust: Also, if  you don't refresh the page, you may have an error pop on line#14 about `split`... but just make sure to refresh the page for another update :P09:49
Hans-Martinhi folks, I've got an icon display problem (desktop and nautilus icons are just generic file icons, even for folders). Is there any place where I can reset gnome/nautilus or whatever decides which icons to show? Google didn't return conclusive answers, just removing ~/.gnome* seems a  bit unspecific to me...09:53
MonkeyDustagent_white  no error, no download, let's take it to offtopic, but gotta go now09:53
dw1Hans-Martin: dont remove, rename. :)09:55
dw1Hans-Martin: not sure bout your issue09:55
mitt3nsMonkeyDust: It doesn't download, only give you the URL :)09:55
Hans-Martindw1: yup, of course. Tried renaming .gnome, .gnome2, .config/nautilus or whatever, without luck09:55
Hans-Martin(of course with logou/login every time)09:55
mitt3nsHans-Martin: In Gnome settings under 'Appearance' go to the 'Themes' tab and hit the 'Customize' button.09:56
mitt3nsHans-Martin: Also... http://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults -- I googled 'reset gnome icons'09:58
mitt3nsJust make sure if you delete those 'dot files', that you back them up first if you've customized them.09:59
dw1Hans-Martin: a few suggestions found @ http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+restore+icons09:59
mitt3nsAfter deleting them, log out and back in.09:59
Hans-Martinthx, I'm trying this now - brb09:59
rajviThis Probaly not a good idea. I want to getaway using sudo.  How to I login as root by default? This is a test machince?10:01
dw1rajvi: you can change to root in terminal temporarily with sudo su10:02
dw1rajvi: running the whole desktop as root would create a lot of unnecssary stuff in the root home folder10:03
dw1rajvi: its also possible to set up passwordless sudo e.g. http://serverfault.com/questions/160581/how-to-setup-passwordless-sudo-on-linux10:04
rajviI know & i fullyunderstand the risk asociated . This is a test rig :)10:04
dw1rajvi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44418/how-to-enable-root-login10:05
wsdfadfhow do i debug ubuntu with symbols10:06
Hans-Martinno success...10:07
dw1wsdfadf: what do you mean10:07
mitt3nsHans-Martin: Did you rename or delete the dot files?10:07
Hans-Martinmitt3ns: moved them into a backup directory10:07
mitt3nsOh OK! Odd... Hmmm...10:08
dw1Hans-Martin: unity --reset-icons  -- then relogin?10:08
dw1Hans-Martin: setsid unity --reset-icons may work without relogin10:09
Hans-Martindw1: trying now, brb (I should run IRC in another session...)10:09
Hans-Martinwell it did drop my starter icons, but didn't fix the icon display problem :-(10:10
agent_whiteOne step closer :)10:12
Hans-Martinnot really...10:12
dw1Hans-Martin: there is this thing.. http://askubuntu.com/a/20202010:12
agent_whiteHans-Martin: Icon display problem being?10:12
adminewbhmm I checked that web page mentioned earlier, and the "unity --reset-icons" almost did what I wanted... but I was hoping to restore the removable drive mount items to their initial state, rather than the rest of the launcher buttons (programs)10:12
dw1Hans-Martin: may reset more than icons tho10:13
ice9anybody using x-plane?10:13
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agent_whiteadminewb: So they've been restored to the original, but not to your 'updated' version you want? Might need to start tossing in parts of those dot files back into the new ones created.10:14
Hans-Martinagent_white: all icons are displayed as the default document icon (papersheet with folded corner), even directories etc. Only user defined icons (thumbnails for pictures, windows icons for windows applications to be run with wine) remain.10:14
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sam_hai iam install ltsp on ubuntu how to conncet vnc to the thin client the thin clients is getting same ip for all users10:14
agent_whiteHans-Martin: I see... hmmm.10:15
sam_and hoe to conncet same session throw vnc server in centos10:15
Hans-Martindw1: I'll try it anyway, it can't become much worse than it is :-)10:15
OrpheonHello, is there some way to access files on a live ubuntu USB?10:17
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Orpheonie. During a boot from USB I stored some files, can I retrieve them without booting from that USB?10:18
dw1Orpheon: plug it in and browse and find out? :)10:18
agent_whiteOrpheon: Only if you move those files back onto something persistant (ie - harddrive, etc.).10:19
agent_white^^ dw1 is the man :D10:19
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dw1yea the live usb isnt persistent by default is it10:19
OrpheonI made ~6 GB persistent10:19
Orpheonbut I'm not finding said files as cleartext anywhere on it10:19
Hans-Martinno success...10:20
Orpheoncould it be that the filesystem is somehow compressed?10:20
dw1Orpheon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/311508/how-to-access-my-saved-files-on-a-persistent-liveusb ?10:20
dw1never used it :(10:20
Orpheonah10:20
Orpheonthank you10:20
agent_whiteHans-Martin: Alright so... for user-defined icons...10:22
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steven_dragon10810:22
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agent_whiteHans-Martin: /usr/share/icons is the folder.  Everything BUT /usr/share/icons/Humanity are custom.10:22
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agent_whiteHans-Martin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79110/how-can-i-assign-custom-icons-to-folders  -- This may be of help.10:23
steven_knows someone with linux mint 15 from10:23
Hans-Martinagent_white: I don't think so - my problem isn't the custom icons (which seem to work) but the generic document icon that is displayed for everything10:24
steven_knows someone with linux mint 15 from10:24
agent_whiteHans-Martin: Oh! So you want to keep the custom icons, but change the generic icons?10:24
dw1!mint | steven_10:25
ubottusteven_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:25
adminewbactually my program launcher buttons have been restored to original, but not the mountable drive buttons, they're still mangled10:25
Hans-Martinagent_white: and with another user on teh same machine, everything works alright, so the problem is definitely somewhere in my user settings. My home directory has been through dozens of ubuntu versions, so there's likely some garbage somewhere, but I don't want to throw everything away just to make gnome happy...10:26
adminewbI wouldn't know where to find the right dot files in this config jungle under /home10:28
mjaykHaya all, on my laptop my trackpad is detected and the clicks work but it does not move the pointer any help would be appriciated 14.0410:29
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kostkonHans-Martin, move or rename the folder ~/.icons and try again?10:32
cvtsxso i need help and someone told me to type "rm -rf/" in to terminal, should i?10:33
kostkoncvtsx, nope10:33
Hans-Martinkostkon: that won't help - there are just 5 custom icons there, it would most likely not affect the display of default icons10:34
kostkonHans-Martin, ok10:34
agent_whitecvtsx: No.10:34
dw1cvtsx: that means remove, recursive, force, and the root folder (all files) :)10:36
dw1cvtsx: had you run it, you would be looking to re-install ubuntu and for offline backups of your files :p10:38
cvtsxlol ty10:38
Hans-Martincvtsx: who was that "someone"?10:42
cvtsxon a forum10:42
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lotuspsychje!12.1010:46
ubottu12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/121010:46
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lotuspsychje12.10 is no longer supported right, does that also mean eol?10:47
ikoniaEOL = end of life, no support/updates anything10:48
ikonia"dead"10:48
ikoniaor "you're on your own"10:48
lotuspsychjeikonia: why does it still show in topic if i may ask10:48
ikonialotuspsychje: which topic ?10:48
ikoniaoh, this channel10:48
lotuspsychjeikonia: #ubuntu topic10:49
ikoniait only went out of support yesterday so it's not been updated, I'll do it now10:49
lotuspsychjeikonia: tnx!10:49
kuba_hi10:49
lotuspsychjekuba_: welcome10:49
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kuba_i am quite new at linux. I am trying to install and cofigurat eclipse for programming microcontrollers10:49
kuba_can somebady help me?10:50
TomyLobotry #eclipse10:51
kuba_i have installed it10:51
kuba_but i have a few problems10:52
TomyLobotry the channel #eclipse10:52
kuba_ok10:52
kuba_i will check10:52
TomyLoboyou are in #ubuntu. eclipse isnt ubuntu10:52
kuba_i know10:52
ikoniathere are eclipse packages for ubuntu10:52
kuba_but i did ist succesfull under windows10:52
kuba_there are linux based problems10:52
ikoniait's fine to ask how to get them installed here10:52
TomyLoboyeah10:52
kuba_i understand you, thanks10:52
TomyLobobut he said "cofigurat"10:52
TomyLobowhich i think means "configure"10:53
ikoniaTomyLobo: perhaps asking what he actually wants... before pushing him out10:53
ikoniaor understanding the problem10:53
kuba_but i still have one question to linux10:53
CapprenticeHi ! anyone using Gnome 3.12 ? How can I organize apps in Groups under Gnome 3.12 ? I have Gnome Software beside Ubuntu Software Center now. Why KDE apps are not listed in Gnome Software Center ?10:53
malinux-I have a clevo w76tun computer, running Ubuntu 14.04. I can't get it to suspend when closing laptop lid. This stopped to work after linux-kernel 2.6.3810:54
kuba_i downloaed tar.gz package and extracted it10:54
kuba_but i cannot lunch it10:54
ikoniaCapprentice: because they don't update the gnome menu as they are designed for KDE10:54
kuba_after installing from repo it lunchaes normally10:54
kuba_but i cannot lunch extracted package10:54
ikoniakuba_: depends what's in the tar.gz you don't always "launch" the contents10:54
kuba_there is executable file10:55
kuba_but when i try to lunch it, nothing happens10:55
cvtsxkuba_ did you change perms?10:55
lotuspsychjemalinux-: maybe dconf-editor might have a suspend entry10:55
kuba_for this package?10:56
cvtsxfor the executable10:56
kuba_no10:56
cvtsxdo it10:56
kuba_ok10:57
kuba_but executable file has 3x r10:57
kuba_so everyone can read it, right?10:57
Hans-Martinsuccess - gnome-tweak-tool fixed it.10:58
TomyLoboikonia well, installing some random tar.gz is not really ubuntu-specific. people in #eclipse have done it before and can help him10:58
TomyLoboif he has a deb and trouble installing that, that's when we can help10:58
agent_whiteHans-Martin: Good to hear! I had seen that in my google-fu but didn't think it would do the trick...10:58
ikoniaTomyLobo: again - you have no idea what he's installing, what's in the tar, or anything10:59
kuba_huys10:59
TomyLoboikonia unless there's a .deb in the tar...10:59
kuba_huys*, i have donwloaded package from eclipse.org10:59
ikoniaTomyLobo: if there is a deb in the tar it means nothing10:59
kuba_the newest build for 32 bit linux, indiego package10:59
kuba_i have extracted it with tar -xvzf command11:00
TomyLobokuba_ do you have a 32 bit linux?11:00
lotuspsychje!info eclipse | kuba_11:00
ubottukuba_: eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.1-5.1 (trusty), package size 15 kB, installed size 122 kB11:00
kuba_no 64, but 32 always go well on 64, isn't it?11:00
TomyLobonot really11:00
kuba_hmm11:01
TomyLobounlike 64 bit windows, 64 bit linux isnt a mixed system, by default11:01
kuba_ok i will check it. When i was doing it on windows, people said to me If i am new i should get x32 version11:01
TomyLobothat's also silly11:01
kuba_i am downloading x6411:02
TomyLobothe only reasons to use a 32 bit version on a 64 bit windows are that the 64 bit build is buggy, nonexistant, older or otherwise worse11:03
ikoniakuba_: the simpler you can keep your setup, the easier you will find it, eg: use a 64bit OS, try to use 64bit software,11:04
kuba_Can i ask you for help if i try to compile program written in C, and i got java.lang.nullptr exception or it should be done in #eclipse?11:06
lotuspsychjekuba_: maybe the ##programming guys might wanna help you also11:06
ikoniakuba_: I think that you're going to need to take to ##c or #eclipse, to work out if it's a problem with the IDE, or your code11:06
TomyLobolikely #eclipse or even #eclipse-cdt or what it's called.11:07
kuba_ok, i see11:07
TomyLoboyou wont get a java.lang.something in C :)11:07
TomyLoboso it's the IDE that's breaking there11:07
ikoniaTomyLobo: you will11:07
ikoniaTomyLobo: it's the IDE11:07
ikoniahowever how the ide handles an error could be the actual code11:07
TomyLoboikonia that's what i was saying dude11:07
ikoniahence working out where the error is11:07
kuba_But i do, and this is C project, moreover even in eclipse i have C/C++ perspective (or sth like that)11:08
TomyLoboikonia so dont send him to ##c for that error11:08
ikoniaTomyLobo: I didn't send him to ##c for that error11:08
TomyLobofor other errors, sure, but this one is clearly not originating from C11:08
ikoniaI sent him to ##c to work out if his code had problems11:08
ikoniaor if the ide was causing it not to compile11:08
TomyLoboikonia if his IDE has uncaught exceptions, he should diagnose those and get an update or replacement before moving on11:09
ikoniaTomyLobo: that is one line of the output, it's quite possible it's how it's displaying the exceptions in the code, or it's own error handling11:10
TomyLoboyou clearly have no idea what a java.lang.NullPointerException is11:10
ikoniapretty sure I do, howver, this is getting pointless11:11
TomyLobo"getting"?11:11
TomyLoboit's obvious that his IDE is broken11:11
lotuspsychjelets move on to ubuntu support guys11:12
TomyLoboand considering it's eclipse (cdt no less), i'm not the least bit surprised11:12
TomyLobogood idea11:12
kuba_Thanks, now it works11:15
binaliPeople)))11:15
kuba_I had to download x64 instead od x32 versions11:15
kuba_I had to download x64 instead of x32 version*11:15
TomyLoboso the NPE was with the 32 bit version?11:15
TomyLobo(NPE = NullPointerException)11:16
kuba_Yes11:17
TomyLoboyou should have mentioned that :)11:18
kuba_i wrote it somewhere, that is was x32 package11:19
TomyLoboyep, then we told you to get a 64 bit package. i kinda assumed you would get that before going on11:20
lotuspsychjekuba_: you can apt-cache search packagename if you like, this way you always get the correct package for your architecture11:20
kuba_Everything works fine now, I can program my microcontrollers11:23
kuba_Thank you so much, i was fixing all bugs for about 2 hours ...11:24
CapprenticeInstalling x64 is a wise choice. There are few Linux softwares that are 64 bit only. Such as - LightWorks Video Editor.11:24
kuba_Can you recommend me an article or guide about linux basics?11:25
ilhamiHey11:26
ilhamican I get filezilla for Ubuntu???11:26
lotuspsychje!manual | kuba_11:26
ubottukuba_: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:26
lotuspsychje!info filezilla | ilhami11:26
ubottuilhami: filezilla (source: filezilla): Full-featured graphical FTP/FTPS/SFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7.3-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 1250 kB, installed size 3102 kB11:26
ilhamiTHANKS!!!! :))))11:27
ilhaminice bot btw11:27
kuba_well, it is a bit longer than article :D11:27
lotuspsychjekuba_: what kind of basics specific?11:27
lotuspsychjekuba_: terminal commands?11:27
kuba_Architecture differences between windows and linux11:28
kuba_and yes, some terminal commands, but it isnt very important11:28
lotuspsychjekuba_: you can google differences if you like, in here we can only support ubuntu11:29
lotuspsychje!bash > kuba_11:29
ubottukuba_, please see my private message11:29
MrmappyINOFHey guys11:29
lotuspsychjeMrmappyINOF: hello mate11:29
MrmappyINOFI'm quite new to Linux and ubuntu11:30
lotuspsychjeMrmappyINOF: well this is an ubuntu support channel if you have some problems11:30
MrmappyINOFOkay11:30
lotuspsychjeMrmappyINOF: so feel free to ask ubuntu related issues11:31
kuba_thank you all for help11:33
kuba_see you11:33
malinux-lotuspsychje: it has, all settings is set to suspend.11:34
lotuspsychjemalinux-: hmm might be some bug maybe?11:34
lotuspsychjemalinux-: maybe try to tail -f /var/log/syslog and try hibernate, see what it does11:34
malinux-lotuspsychje: hibernate instead of suspend?11:35
lotuspsychjemalinux-: suspend sorry11:35
malinux-lotuspsychje: okey :)11:35
AsynOk, so I'm dog tired and maybe that's why I can't think this out... I've got the following setup: I have a desktop that connects to the router via wifi, and the ethernet port is plugged to a switch that is also connected to another PC.  Ideally I want to just bridge the connections, but with WPA working the way it does it seems like a pain in the ass... so couldn't I just in theory use iptables with something like iptables -A FORWARD -11:35
AsynI mean, obviously I can't or I wouldn't be asking the question.11:35
malinux-lotuspsychje: it dosen't report anything when I close my lid. (the command)11:36
lotuspsychjeAsyn: thats more a ##networking issue11:36
lotuspsychjemalinux-: hmm, maybe check previous logs then for errors?11:37
malinux-lotuspsychje: like the pm-suspend.log ?11:37
lotuspsychjemalinux-: not sure about that, never use suspend myself11:37
daftykinsAsyn: network manager should support bridging the connections11:37
malinux-lotuspsychje: ah11:37
malinux-there is no errors in the /var/log/pm-suspend.log11:38
lotuspsychjemalinux-: how bout the syslog?11:38
Asyndaftykins: Yeah, I tried that... ended up just breaking all together.  Something about it being an WPA network seems to break it.11:39
lotuspsychjemalinux-: what laptop brand is this?11:41
malinux-lotuspsychje: it's a clewo W761tun11:41
malinux-*clevo11:41
malinux-syslog dosen't have any errors about pm-suspend11:42
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lotuspsychjemalinux-: few google results on clevo suspend bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/128576111:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1285761 in linux (Ubuntu) "[CLEVO CO. W130EV] suspend/resume failure" [Medium,Expired]11:43
lotuspsychjemalinux-: maybe new kernel might solve?11:43
MrmappyINOFHey guys11:43
malinux-lotuspsychje: thanx. I could check it out. Well, how new should the kernel be before it starts to work again? It hasen't worked since kernel 2.6.38 and it hasen't worked on any kernel since11:44
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lotuspsychjemalinux-: not sure mate, just see few hits on clevo suspend errors11:45
lotuspsychjemalinux-: you doublechecked bios for suspend options maybe?11:46
daftykinsAsyn: how far did it get though? did the other PC get an IP?11:47
lotuspsychje!info uswsusp | malinux-11:48
ubottumalinux-: uswsusp (source: uswsusp): tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0+20120915-4ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 136 kB, installed size 516 kB (Only available for amd64; i386; powerpc)11:48
Asyndaftykins: The bridge?  No, because the wifi wouldn't connect anymore once I bridged them.11:48
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malinux-lotuspsychje: yes, my laptops bios dosen't have any suspend-options. I dualboot with win7 in Win7 it works.11:49
lotuspsychjemalinux-: ok11:49
malinux-lotuspsychje: is uswsusp a program I could try?11:50
lotuspsychjemalinux-: yes seems like a handy suspend prog11:50
malinux-lotuspsychje: I give it a shot :)11:50
MonkeyDustor pm-suspend11:51
malinux-by the way. am I banned from this channel? I couldn't join with my regular nick: Malinux from withihn quassel, so I use the web-interface. I Know I was removed from this channel few weeks ago because I was idle.11:51
malinux-lotuspsychje: I do have to manually configure the uswsusp?11:54
daftykinsAsyn: did you run into http://superuser.com/questions/597834/bridging-wifi-to-ethernet-on-ubuntu-not-working ?11:55
ubuntuaddictedanyone else use transmission-daemon? i have a UID mapping issue i don't understand11:57
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rostamhi during installation of third party kernel module, lttng, I get  following error: Can't read private key. Here is the pastebin for it:   http://paste.debian.net/100134/11:58
smartasshi, could anyone recommend a good alternative to Calligra Plan or TaskJuggler?12:01
Asyndaftykins: I was trying to avoid masquerading so I didn't have to set up a bunch of forwarding rules for the other wireless clients.12:02
daftykinsAsyn: i was more highlighting the guy saying it can't be done. have you got control over the wireless network settings to change WPA just for experimentation?12:02
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Asyndaftykins: Yes I do.  I can try that next.12:06
leipzigSo, why exactly doesn't Ubuntu support making an infrastructure hotspot out-of-the-box?12:07
MonkeyDustleipzig  what brings you here?12:08
daftykinsleipzig: you haven't written it into network manager yet ;)12:08
leipzigdaftykins, What do you mean?12:08
leipzigMonkeyDust, What's wrong with me being here?12:09
smartasshi, could anyone recommend a good alternative to Calligra Plan or TaskJuggler that would support time tracking and reporting (Gantt charts)12:09
CelineHello. I've 2 user account on this Lubuntu, and I want to make second one the default one that will load automatically after reboot. How to do this?12:09
MonkeyDustleipzig  i meant, instead of asking "why", better ask "how"12:09
TomyLobohe was asking "why not", not "why" :)12:10
leipzigMonkeyDust, Oh, yes. Actually, I'd love to know how! :)12:10
leipzigTomyLobo, Nice one! lol12:10
daftykinsleipzig: hostapd12:10
leipzigdaftykins, hostapd is broken in 14.04. Even downgrading it didn't work with me for some reason.12:11
Malinux-uswsusp dosen't work. unless I have to configure it in a way to make it work12:11
daftykinsoh maybe you were that one that spoke of this the other day12:11
leipzigdaftykins, Yeah. I tried to find a solution for it here yesterday, but to no avail..12:12
daftykinsdid you ever explain what goes wrong with it?12:12
leipzigdaftykins, I was able to make an infrastructure hotspot using ap-hotspot back in 13.10. But ap-hotspot depends on hostapd, which is broken on 14.04. They say it should work if you downgrade hostapd to the previous version, but it didn't work for me.12:14
TomyLobowhat didnt work? the downgrade process or the software after the downgrade?12:15
leipzigTomyLobo, As far I understood what happened, the downgrade went just fine. But ap-hotspot still wouldn't budge..12:15
daftykinswe need package management output if that's where somethings going wrong12:16
daftykinswhat you describe isn't in enough detail12:17
leipzigdaftykins, Please help me out to bring more details. :\12:17
daftykinsi don't have any experience with those packages to know how they even fit together12:18
daftykinsAsyn: i was sure it could be done graphically without messing with bridge interfaces: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3063/share-wireless-connection-with-wired-ethernet-port?rq=112:20
Asyndaftykins: Yeah, I saw that article. It assigns a whole new subnet to the wired connections though, which I was trying to avoid.  I think because of the way APs work, this is just not going to be possible without setting up WDS which my cheap router doesn't support.12:24
daftykinsAsyn: why's that an issue? anything wrong with looking into powerline networking or just buying a USB or PCI wireless adapter? i love cables myself :)12:26
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Asyndaftykins: Yes, a $10 usb wifi dongle would solve all of this, but I'm retiring the secondary computer in a couple months. :)  Just kind of those "hey, I have a spare computer" things. lol12:27
Firefly67hi, I have a problem that I don't quite know how to express. The left panel on my screen has become "shaded" (disappeared behind some translucent thing the same shade as the desktop) after I did some mouse maneuver. Anyone know how to fix this?12:28
s1991Hello can some help me, I've windows 8 install in 1 partition but doesn't appear in grub?12:29
s1991anyone????12:30
khildins1991, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair12:31
s1991khildin: boot repair also didn't help12:32
s1991and also I'm afraid If I'd done something wrong I will miss everything12:33
BurnIrlHello =)12:37
BurnIrli have an issue with linux12:38
s1991_sorry did I miss anything, I got disconnected12:38
MonkeyDustBurnIrl  let's hear it12:38
BurnIrlnope12:38
daftykinsBurnIrl: please state what you're running and what's happening on one line12:38
s1991_Hello can some help me, I've windows 8 install in 1 partition but doesn't appear in grub?12:40
daftykinss1991_: so you installed 8 *after* ubuntu?12:41
perdomwxDid you install Windows after you installed Ubuntu12:41
ganimedes1991_, try installing grub customizer (google it), at least to see your grub configuration12:41
s1991_daftykins: actually I installed 8 first, and then ubuntu, and then remove windows boot option for choosing os to grub12:42
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Oisinlol12:42
daftykinsi don't understand the bit after "ubuntu,"12:43
s1991_I've also tried running boot-repiar12:43
perdomwxhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/370910/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-8-112:43
daftykinss1991_: do you mean you changed the boot item in your BIOS/EFI ?12:43
s1991_daftykins: at initial where system ask to choose between os, so I replace it by ubuntu's grub12:43
ganimededaftykins, he just removed the win partition from grub12:44
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s1991_daftykins: if you just install window, there won't be grub there would be anything else, so that I replace12:44
s1991_ganimede: ya, may be :P12:44
ganimedes1991_, again, install visual grub and check your configuration12:45
s1991_ganimede: using boot-epair12:46
s1991_boot-repair*12:46
ganimedenope, it is another tool. let me google it12:46
AsynSounds like he might have nuked the Win boot partition when loading ubuntu and grub didn't pick it up.12:46
s1991_ok thanks12:46
ganimedes1991_, use: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-grub-customizer-302-in-ubuntu.html12:46
s1991_Asyn: exactly12:46
daftykinsseems so, just a very confusing way of putting it XD12:46
daftykinsEFI or legacy installs?12:47
s1991_ganimede: I also have that, but I'm afraid to do anything12:47
Asyns1991_: How many partitions do you have and what types are they?12:47
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Oisinhi12:48
s1991_Asyn: 2 ext4 and 2 ntfs12:48
daftykinsOisin: you haven't told us your issue yet.12:48
Asyns1991_: What size are the ntfs partitions?12:48
vigneshanyone know how to configure sonicwall12:48
s1991_in one of the ntfs, cantains win-812:48
MonkeyDust!info sonicwall12:48
ubottuPackage sonicwall does not exist in trusty12:48
daftykinsvignesh: that's a physical router and beyond the scope of this support channel. try ##networking12:49
ganimedes1991_: in that case just run it, make sure to show the grub menu (general settings tab), save the configuration and restart12:49
vigneshokay thank you12:49
s1991_Asyn: ext4 100GB each, ntfs 50GB and 200G12:50
s1991_50gb contains window12:50
daftykinsheh that's going to be a struggle for you in future12:51
daftykins50GB is tiny for Windows12:51
Asyns1991_: Ugh.  There should be a ~100MB ntfs partition windows uses to boot from (since 7 and up)... someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but without that you might be hosed.12:52
s1991_daftykins: I know, I didn't use to much12:52
daftykinss1991_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit12:53
Ugb3Hello everyone, i'm planning to buy a new graphic card for my "htpc" working on Ubutunu 14.04 as my Ati 4550 is now incompatible, do you think i should buy a Nvidia card or and Ati card for better compatibility ? (I need to be able to play 1080 videos)12:53
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s1991_daftykins: It won;t hurt my ubuntu, right?12:53
daftykinss1991_: nope12:53
daftykinss1991_: it purely provides partition information12:53
s1991_daftykins: ok, 1 sec12:54
daftykinsUgb3: nvidia seems to work better12:54
daftykinsUgb3: how did you get on with trying 'nomodeset' ? did it boot?12:54
Ugb3daftykins: Only way to boot atm.12:54
daftykinsUgb3: ah, did you try installing the legacy fglrx driver?12:55
Ugb3daftykins: as you may know ATi droped support of catalyst for "legacy" cards, so I'm stuck with the open source one, but I can't get any acceleration and full usage of my screen.12:55
s1991_daftykins: here http://pastebin.com/Q0EkU7Cw12:56
daftykinsUgb3: yeah, i think there's a package for the last version driver for those old generations though12:56
PessimistUgb3: because the free driver should be enough for your needs12:56
daftykinsAsyn: pastebin also ^12:56
Ugb3Pessimist: my need are : full screen, more than 4 fps in unity and 1080 playback, not that great.12:57
jrtappersIs it possible to sign smartcards in gpg agent in the same way ssh keys can be signed?12:57
s1991_Asyn: http://pastebin.com/Q0EkU7Cw12:58
Asyns1991_: So... yeah... no boot partition and no room to make one.  I fear you are looking at a reinstall. :/13:01
Ugb3It would be easier if the ubuntu installer had an auto nomodesetting for know non working cards.13:01
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s1991_Asyn: reinstall what window?13:01
s1991_but I can not touch my ubuntu partition I has all my works13:02
Asyns1991_: Yes.  You should be able to access the old windows partition through Ubuntu enough to back up anything you might need to, but reinstalling Windows is going to be the practical way.13:02
s1991_Asyn: I've nothing important in window, I've it all in ubuntu the 100GB partition13:03
MrmappyINOFI am new to Ubuntu and linux in General, what it the best starter distro?13:04
OerHeksUgb3, it had, at the point install/try out, there are options at the bottom panel, with F613:04
jrtappersMrmappyINOF, What computer will it be running on?13:04
MrmappyINOFA virtual machine (on a Toshiba Sattalite C650)13:04
Lindia18 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy13:05
BurnIrllolhello13:05
ilhamiHey13:05
Ugb3OerHeks: yeah a manual one, if you don't know about it you will just have a black screen, for new to linux it can be a bit disapointing.13:05
Asyns1991_:  As long as you just choose one of the NTFS partitions to install Windows to it shouldn't touch anything Ubuntu related other than Grub... it will kill grub, but you can just use a live cd to run grub-update again.  HOWEVER, you REALLY should back up anything important beforehand.13:05
ilhamiis there any wifi scanner which can retrieve channels from networks in area+13:05
OerHeksUgb3, the installer works flawlessly, no modeset needed at that point13:05
BartDudeI need some help, guys. I installed the network manager stuff needed for OpenVPN and everything worked. As soon as I rebooted my PC, problems started. Now my connection times out every single time. What can I do?13:05
s1991_Asyn: ok, got it13:05
Asynilhami: airodump-ng13:05
daftykinsilhami: kismet used to be the old classic13:05
Ugb3OerHeks: depends on graphic cards.13:06
Ugb3OerHeks: I can't boot it without nomodesetting.13:06
BurnIrl;)13:06
jrtappersMrmappyINOF, A VM will not give you the best experience, are you sure you want to use one?13:06
ilhamisudo apt-get install airodump-ng ??13:06
OisinMessage13:07
daftykinsOisin: either ask a question or leave. stop wasting our time.13:07
Asynilhami: It's part of aircrack-ng I believe13:07
MrmappyINOFYeah, at least for a bit13:07
MrmappyINOFTo test out13:07
jrtappersMrmappyINOF, For a test a live usb might be better, unless your computer is quite powerful VM's can lag13:08
jrtappersBut base ubuntu is quite nice for beginners, not loo much of a learning curve13:08
jrtappers*too13:09
MrmappyINOFOkay, I'll try and get it running13:09
BartDudeI really need your help, guys.13:09
Oisin<>13:09
Oisin<?>13:10
jrtappersMrmappyINOF, Do you want to try a live usb or a vm? And what VM software are you using?13:10
BartDudeOisin: Look further up. :)13:10
clh_XD13:11
ilhamiso how do I capture all wifi networks?13:11
jrtappersBartDude,  any log messages?13:12
BartDudejrtappers: Where would I look for them?13:12
BartDudejrtappers: This is my first Ubuntu installation. :)13:12
daftykinsOisin: leave.13:12
Deddokatanahi! where can i find the package maintainers?13:13
jrtappersThey are in /var/log/, thats where logs are kept by default13:13
BartDudejrtappers: Let me see if I can find something for you.13:13
Deddokatanai have something that will make them slap themselves with glee13:13
Asynilhami: Read up on the whole aircrack-ng package.  It is a complete toolkit, and what you are asking isn't as simple as you think.  Wireless networks over what time?  What are you wanting to capture?13:14
jrtappersBartDude, Can you pastebin dmesg first13:14
ilhamiI just want to know what channels the networks around me use so I can adjust13:14
ilhamithats all13:14
Asynilhami: Then airodump-ng is your answer.13:15
daftykinsilhami: you've been told some programs to try, so try them :)13:15
MrmappyINOFI'll try VM for a while, and maybe install it on a computer in the future, and I use VirtualBox for VMs13:15
ilhamiI did install airodump-ng13:15
BartDudejrtappers: If you tell me what's in it. :P13:15
BartDudejrtappers: You could make me share some secret information and ruin my system.13:15
jrtappersBartDude, If I was doing that I would ask for /etc/shadow13:16
jrtappers:D13:16
Asynilhami: I don't understand where the problem is.  You run it, it tells you all the wireless networks it can see, you hit ^C and your done.13:16
BartDudejrtappers: Now I'm curious!13:16
jrtappersDmesg is just a general error log13:16
jrtappers/etc/shadow holds the hashed passwords13:16
ilhamiI dont know what command to run Asyn. I tried airodump-ng.. it gave me a list of commands I can do13:17
BartDudeWell... There's dmesg, dmesg.0, and dmesg.1.gz?13:17
jrtappersBartDude, dmesg, the rest are old logs13:17
BartDudejrtappers: Hold on.13:17
Asynilhami: It's just airodump-ng <interface>, which by default should be airodump-ng wlan013:17
jrtappersMrmappyINOF, It will run ok, but you may want to try a live usb (YUMI or Unetbootin) to see if your hardware will work and to get les lag13:18
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jrtappersAll it needs is a usb stick, and it runs entirely off the usb, so there is no risk of wiping your pc13:18
ilhamiioctl(SIOCSIWMODE) failed: Device or resource busy13:18
jcstarkengood morning all I have a question about why cant I edit the sysctl.conf file to change the size of my swappiness file it keeps telling me I do not have the permission13:18
ilhamiAsyn13:18
ilhamiit tells me to use airmon13:19
jrtappersjcstarken, are you root13:19
BartDudejrtappers: Did you see my private message?13:19
ubuntuaddictedcan someone help me with NFS UID mapping? i have a transmission-daemon,  and I share it's folder over my network using NFS and when I view the folder on my other computer it says owner is 121, whereas it's debian-transmission on the server13:19
jrtappersBartDude, I did now :D13:19
BartDudejrtappers: Great.13:19
jcstarkenjrtappers:in terminal when i open gedit yes13:19
Asynilhami: Then try airmon-ng start mon0 and then do airodump-ng mon0... this is from memory so I might be a little off.13:20
MrmappyINOF_I'm now on my computer instead of my iPad13:20
Asynilhami: it might be airmon-ng start wlan013:21
jrtappersjcstarken, sudo bash -c "echo 'vm.swappiness = 10' >> /etc/sysctl.conf"13:21
jrtappersBartDude, Do you have daemon.log?13:21
ilhamiAsyn, it didn't work...13:21
BartDudejrtappers: Let me see.13:21
ilhamiAsyn I tried both13:22
BartDudejrtappers: If it should be in the same folder, no.13:22
ilhamiIt just keep listing interfaces13:22
jrtappersBartDude, yes13:22
MrmappyINOFI'm here now13:22
BartDudejrtappers: No daemon.log. Is that a good thing? :O13:23
jcstarkenjrtappers: I will try that and reboot and check it thank you, I will look up bash instead of asking thank you again13:23
ilhamihttp://pastebin.com/hp37jF3q Asyn13:23
ilhamithis is what I get13:23
jrtappersBartDude, What is your distro / version?13:24
BartDudejrtappers: Ubuntu 14.0413:24
MrmappyINOFjrtappers: if it makes any difference, I currently use Windows13:24
Asynilhami: Ok, I'm guessing you did it a few times... try airodump-ng mon5 then.13:24
ahelWhen I boot, no DM starts up after update to 14.04, so I've to switch to tty and "startx", then my session resume booting. any idea where to look for hints?13:25
erle-why is tmpfs non-executable?13:25
ilhamiAsyn thanks :)13:26
ilhamithat worked13:26
jrtappersMrmappyINOF, It does not, VM will work ok, live usb will work well, and ubuntu desktop is nice for beginners13:26
Asyn:)13:26
ilhamibut it's only monitoring one network that isnt mine..13:26
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ilhamiaah now the others came13:26
MrmappyINOFOkay then13:26
MrmappyINOFI might also try out Ubuntu GNOME13:27
jrtappersBartDude, can you pastebin [ls /var/log -gh]13:27
BartDudejrtappers: Yes.13:27
mac_15hi to everyone13:29
MrmappyINOFmac_15: Hello!13:29
Ugb3Does any of you know the function of "Download updates while installing" of the Ubuntu installer ? I had checked it but apt-get upgrade had a sh1tload of updates just after finishing the installation.13:29
ilhamiis it normal for a router to have 13 channels?13:29
daftykinsilhami: yes, the 2.4GHz ISM band has 13 channels in most regions, 14 in Japan13:30
bekksilhami: Sure.13:30
daftykinsilhami: however most overlap, so your only TRUE choices are 1, 6 and 1113:30
mac_15trying to mingle with irssi!!!13:30
ilhamiI set mine to 9 :D I hope it will have a good impact13:30
ilhamiit seems faster now13:30
MrmappyINOFUgb3: the download updates while installing thing does what it says it is13:31
daftykinsilhami: picking one of the above three would be best13:31
somsipI have 12.04 installed on one HD, and have a new HD for 14.04 which will replace 12.04 so I want grub on new HD MBR so I can select boot device in BIOS. tried selecting default during install, and specifying /dev/sdg (new HD per partition manager) but still get nothing after boot prompt. Ideas?13:31
MrmappyINOFand should install after installation13:31
Ugb3MrmappyINOF: So why is there still update available after installation ? What kind of update does it install ?13:31
ilhamidaftykins I will try this and if it doesnt work out as it should I might change it to what you said.13:31
daftykinssomsip: just install with the other disk disconnected.13:31
Ugb3MrmappyINOF: Nothing happened after installation :/13:31
somsipdaftykins: and then use installer's recommended default?13:32
daftykinssomsip: if you wish, i prefer creating a separate /home partition13:32
ilhamiThanks guys for your help! later!13:32
MrmappyINOFThen it should ask you if you want to install after ubuntu installation13:32
somsipdaftykins: I have / 200GB and /home 1.8TB on the new HD. But I'll disconnect the other 3 drives so only the new HD is in there and try that - nice idea13:33
daftykinssomsip: enjoy :)13:33
Ugb3MrmappyINOF: Anything should pop-up ? I just had the screen with the key explanation and that's all.13:33
somsipdaftykins: thanks - bfn13:34
pdo_fn14Confused to choose btrfs or xfs for high disks performance with high stability. Anyone suggests?.13:34
MrmappyINOFUgb3: I don't know then13:34
Ugb3Weird, I think i can live with having to do a atp-get upgrade but it seems weird.13:34
MrmappyINOFUgb3: The sooner you get used to the command line, the easier your Linux experience will become13:36
Ugb3MrmappyINOF: Yeah i know, i'm pretty used to it now, but i have come back to ubuntu after years of other distro/windows/Mac os X, and sometime i'm enjoying a seamless non-command line experience, and i'm still confused when something doesn't seems to work as it should.13:37
MrmappyINOFYeah, there are a lot of distros that don't even need a command line, unless you need to13:38
mamece2hello i have a problem with the login screen, the background is shifted. I have two monitor but the other is not active atm13:39
ahelmamece2: i can't even login from lightdm but to manually startx. Has it happened to you also?13:44
dw1ahel: check the logs, especially /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:45
Ugb3How do i know which driver is my graphic card using ?13:46
mamece2ahel:  no, sorry13:46
bekksUgb3: Which graphics card do you have?13:46
ahel.xsessions-errors says gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-session terminated with status 1 dw113:46
Ugb3bekks ATI 455013:46
ahelmamece2: lucky you :)13:47
dw1ahel: nothing more before that?13:47
bekksUgb3: then take a look at sudo lspci -k13:47
aheldw1: disconnected from notified dbus13:47
dw1ahel: anything in Xorg.0.log ?13:47
Ugb3bekks: I only see a "kernel driver in use" for the audio part of my card13:48
dw1ahel: prob best to check before running startx so you are only looking at hte crash data..13:48
bekksUgb3: Pastebin "sudo lspci -k" please.13:49
bekks!pastebin | Ugb313:49
ubottuUgb3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:49
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m1dnightis anybody here using CouchPotato? I'm stuck on changing a settingsfile and the forum is taking *ages*13:50
m1dnightit's probably something easy13:50
Ugb3bekks:13:51
Ugb3bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7478372/13:51
aheldw1: no EE found in Xorg.0.log.old13:51
Moony22Hello13:52
Moony22how can I download ubuntu phone13:52
Moony22http://www.ubuntu.com/phone13:52
Moony22I dont see a download13:52
aheldw1: tried to dpkg-reconfigure gnome-session and the other but after restarting lightdm, no luck13:53
dw1ahel: hard to say.. scour them logs when it crashes..13:54
dw1ahel: kern.log.. syslog maybe13:54
anudasjoinf debian13:55
anudasjoin debian13:55
Moony22what is ubuntu touch13:55
mamece2hello i have a problem with the login screen, the wallpaper is shifted. I have two monitor but the other is not active atm13:55
m1dnightmamece2: I have a wrong login wallpaper too13:56
jrtappersMoony22, Phone os13:56
m1dnightbut it fixed itself when I log in13:56
dw1ahel: maybe video drivers .. ?  weird startx works13:56
Moony22jrtappers: why is it not on the website13:56
Moony22jrtappers: is it no longer supported13:56
jrtappersMoony22, It is still in development13:56
m1dnightread the website Moony2213:56
m1dnightit tells you all about it :)13:56
Moony22m1dnight: no it doesnt13:57
Moony22ubuntu website sucks like hell13:57
jrtappersQuite heavily so, it runs on my N5 (Shh, not supported officially :D) but I would not use it as only phone os13:57
aheldw1: yeah that's what is driving me insane: startx works!13:58
bekksMoony22: It does tell you: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone13:58
Ugb3Moony22: You are right, didn't find any pertinent information about ubuntu phone on the website, it look just a corporation website.13:58
m1dnightwell Moony22.. It tells you *when* on the FAQ13:58
m1dnightit tells you *what* on the homepage13:58
m1dnightnothing we can tell you is not lised on the page13:58
dw1ahel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167610/unable-to-start-lightdm-but-can-startx13:59
m1dnightdid they ever manage to reach their goal on the kickstarter, btw?13:59
Ugb3bekks: did you check my log ?13:59
MagePsychohi guys,..i want to change the owner group to root root: rwxrwxrwx 1 desado desado 186K May 17 15:20 Light-Brown-Classy-Dress-1.jpg14:00
MagePsychohow to do on that file?14:00
bekksUgb3: Currently, there is no driver loaded.14:00
bekks!ati | Ugb314:00
ubottuUgb3: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:00
Moony22Look - the ubuntu website is the worst website ever14:01
dw1MagePsycho: sudo chown root.root <file>14:01
Moony22the only thing it is good at doing is looking nice14:01
m1dnightoh dear lord14:01
Ugb3bekks: Ok my card ins't supported...14:01
OerHeksMoony22, thanks for your input, do you have an ubuntu support question?14:01
bekksUgb3: Not supported by what?14:02
Moony22I go to the ubuntu website - I want to find out: what something is - where I can download it.14:02
MagePsychodw1: what if i want to recursively change permisson to all items in a folder?14:02
dw1MagePsycho: chown -R14:02
Ugb3bekks: By ubuntu I guess, checked the link you gave me.14:02
Moony22OerHeks: Yes, is there any release of ubuntu touch or phone or android or whatever it is called14:02
m1dnightMoony22: for god's sake. If they tell you *when* its going to be released it means it is *not released yet*14:02
dw1MagePsycho: see also chown --help ;)14:02
m1dnightso you can't download it14:02
Ugb3bekks: "For a list of supported video cards, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards "14:02
Ugb3I couldn't find mine.14:02
MagePsychodw1: chown root.root —> chown -R root:root import/ ?14:03
bekksUgb3: "by ubuntu" is wrong at that point. Your card is just too old be supported by ATI anymore. It is still supported by the free radeon driver.14:03
OerHeksMoony22, no, not yet, join #ubuntu-touch for info14:03
MagePsychodw1: root.root or root:root ?14:03
Moony22OerHeks: ok, and is ubuntu phone a phone or an OS14:03
bekksMoony22: It is an OS.14:03
OerHeks!phone14:03
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch14:03
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dw1MagePsycho: examples use a colon, so i guess both will work.  not sure the trailing slash will do the parent folder so might wnat to remove it14:03
Ugb3bekks: I can't find any information on how to install the open source one.14:03
MagePsychook14:03
m1dnightalso, to download it: http://bit.ly/1n7qGZC14:03
Moony22OerHeks: what is this then? http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/14:04
OerHeksMoony22, again, join #ubuntu-touch for info and support14:04
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mamece2m1dnight: should the wallpaper login screen issue reported as a bug?14:04
m1dnightmamece2: I'm not a pro, but to me personally it's not an issue so I haven't figured it out. I do think it has something to do with the drivers or something :)14:05
m1dnightSo I can't really help you with that14:05
WispanatorUm Hi I'm having problems installing a new graphics driver. Would anyone help me please?14:06
somsipdaftykins: so now I have the MBR written to the USB drive :-/ Looks like I'll have to set the new HD as the boot drive, and have grub on there, with an option to boot 12.0414:06
bekksMoony22: Read the headline of your link. "Install Ubuntu for devices on a supported phone or tablet"14:07
aheldw1: thank you dived into your link. Now I'll look for lightdm configurations on the web14:07
dw1ahel: i would check that lightdm log14:08
mamece2ok then.. i have a big problem. I made a mistake using dd. I had a 750 GB NTFS external hd. I started doing dd from my laptop hd to the external dd and i overwrite a bit before doing ctrl+c. Now my ntfs drive has got a lil bit ext4 partition and a lot of UNALLOCATED data. How can i restore whats lets in the ex-ntfs now unallocated part of the 750 gb external hd?14:08
Ugb3Okay so anyone knows how i can install any driver for my HD4550 (Knowing that there is no more any catalyst driver for it ?)14:09
mac_15i'm trying irssi....can someone send me a private messagge? thank you....:-)14:09
Nach0zUgb3: go with an older driver14:09
bekksUgb3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver14:09
dw1Wispanator: post your problem for best results14:09
aheldw1: already done. /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ is empty. And that's not nice14:09
Ugb3bekks: I read the page, there is nothing about installing it...14:10
OerHeksUgb3, use the standard driver, ati 4xxx is unsupported by the new driver, so no advantage 3d functions and such14:10
dw1ahel: mine's empty14:10
Ugb3OerHeks: How could i do that ?14:10
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WispanatorUm I'm having problems installing a new graphics driver for my HD 7770. Nothing in the Software Updater works properly, so I'm trying to install the 14.4 Beta but the installer doesn't do anything when I run it.14:10
OerHeksUgb3, use the one that comes with the installation14:10
dw1ahel: my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has 3 lines: [SeatDefaults], user-session=ubuntu, greeter-session=unity-greeter14:11
ahelWhat about lightdm.conf ?14:11
Ugb3OerHeks: How could i do that ? I didn't change anything and there obviously no driver loaded...14:11
OerHeksUgb3, well, yesterday you removes the closed ati driver, right?14:12
OerHeks*removed14:12
bekksUgb3: Did you work through the article given? Did you check like the article told you?14:12
Ugb3OerHeks: I just did a clean install.14:13
Ugb3bekks: Yep.14:13
bekksUgb3: So whats the output of "dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'" ?14:13
Deddokatanahey, no batt laptop with loose power14:14
Ugb3bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7478473/14:14
Deddokatanaanyway, who was reading, radeon.modeset = 114:14
dw1Wispanator: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD14:14
mac_15i'm trying irssi....can someone send me a private messagge? thank you....:-)14:14
bekksUgb3: Line 6 tells you the free driver is initialized (and loaded).14:15
OerHeksUgb3, then you are fine14:15
Ugb3bekks: Weird as i'm sure i have no acceleration at all, i have like 4 fps and only a part of the screen is used.14:15
Ugb3OerHeks: Define "fine" ?14:16
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OerHeksUgb3, fine as in no better driver available.14:16
aheldw1: you've been quicker than me, thank you :) edited .conf according to/usr/share/lightdm...But now only asks for login and password. Then still stays there14:16
bekksUgb3: "Ugb3: Line 6 tells you the free driver is initialized (and loaded)."14:16
Ugb3OerHeks: Ok so I can say that my card isn't supported by ubuntu 14.04.14:17
dw1ahel: so now it starts but you cant login?14:17
Ugb3bekks: Yeah sure but there is obviously something wrong.14:17
mamece2I made a mistake using dd. I had a 750 GB NTFS external hd. I started doing dd from my laptop hd to the external dd and i overwrite a bit before doing ctrl+c. Now my ntfs drive has got a lil bit ext4 partition and a lot of UNALLOCATED data. How can i restore whats lets in the ex-ntfs now unallocated part of the 750 gb external hd?14:17
bekksUgb3: Because?14:17
BartDudeThis is far from urgent, but... Is there a way to disable shadows around windows?14:17
mamece2Im using testdisk to try to locate the partition but theres only the ext4 that i copied by mistake, the ntfs is not there, its just unallocated data14:18
aheldw1: I can enter my login and it accepts or not but then screen flickers and do nothing else14:18
dw1ahel: try renaming /home/user/.Xauthority14:18
Ugb3bekks: because it is not working well, only a part of the screen is used (9/10 of it and i can't change the resolution) and i have like 4 fps max.14:18
bekksUgb3: Define "not working well"14:19
bekksUgb3: and 4 fpss when doing what?14:19
bekksUgb3: Running which resolution?14:19
Ugb3bekks: not well : only a part of the screen is used (9/10 of it and i can't change the resolution) and i have like 4 fps max.14:19
Ugb34fps opening a folder of whatever.14:19
Ugb3bekks: i don't have choice 108014:20
bekksUgb3: do you use unity?14:20
Ugb3bekks: Yeah.14:20
bekksUgb3: "1080" is a number, not a resolution.14:20
bekksUgb3: I suggest using xfce or lxde then.14:20
Ugb3bekks: 1080 stands for 1920x1080.14:20
Ugb3bekks: Will i have any acceleration there ?14:21
aheldw1: there is no way to reset configs for those packages?14:21
Ugb3Ugb3: or at least a full screen ?14:21
BartDudeThis is far from urgent, but... Is there a way to disable shadows around windows?14:21
bekksUgb3: You have a card that old that there is no proprietary driver anymore. Be happy if it works at least. :)14:21
ahelBartDude: I think it depends on your decorator14:21
Ugb3bekks: Ok, i guess i should switch back to fedora or windows then.14:22
bekksUgb3: Which doesnt magically improve your hardware.14:22
mamece2 i need a hd expert14:22
Ugb3bekks: Nope but at least it works.14:22
bekksmamece2: For what?14:22
BartDudeahel: Decorator? :P14:23
mamece2bekks: i did a mistake using dd14:23
jrtappersmamece2, how bad?14:24
mamece2jrtappers: bekks: I overwrite my external hd, but just a lil14:24
bekksmamece2: And our task is to guess what you did? :)14:24
bekksmamece2: Then restore your backup.14:25
dw1ahel: sudo apt-get install --reinstall or sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package> -- but removing/renaming .Xauthority is a common fix for login not working14:25
mamece2bekks: jrtappers  I had a 750 GB NTFS external hd. I started doing dd from my laptop hd to the external dd and i overwrite it a bit before doing ctrl+c. Now my ntfs drive has got a lil bit ext4 partition and a lot of UNALLOCATED data. How can i restore whats lets in the ex-ntfs now unallocated part of the 750 gb external hd?14:25
mamece2bekks: the external drive was my backup drive.14:26
aheldw1: tried renaming but no luck14:26
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bekksmamece2: So you have no data lost. Reformat and create a new backup from your original data.14:26
ahelAnd tried even installing reinstalling.14:26
raggganyong know how to get two finger right click with a *physical* click (not a tap) working with a clickpad in 14.04?14:26
ahelMaybe I didn't hit the right packages. Tired... Damn updates14:27
mamece2bekks: that my last option. I want to know if i can recover with foremost from the unallocated data14:27
OerHeksraggg, 2 finger click, never heard of that14:27
dw1ahel: i have helped someone in the past that was helped by actually manually recreating .Xauthority14:27
bekksmamece2: Creating a new backup will be faster.14:27
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mamece2bekks: theres a problem, i dont remember if everything in the external drive was backup14:28
dw1ahel: this looks like the instructions http://tinyurl.com/m7fb4kj .. but i would probably skip that last sudo chmod step it doesnt seem right14:28
mamece2bekks: if i could just get the names of the files I could compare and format without remorse14:28
bekksmamece2: the file names where overwritten.14:28
Ugb3mamece2 bekks  isn't that possible to resize the partition with some gparted ?14:28
bekksUgb3: that will destroy any chance of restoring the data.14:29
Ugb3bekks: Ok i didnt get that there were data loss.14:29
bekksHowever, without a backup, the data can safely considered to not have been worth to beb kept.14:29
mamece2bekks: I know theres 116 GB that were lost. it was what dd overwritten. But I want to take a look at the rest of the data in the unaloccated space. theres a way to restore unallocated to NTFS (the initial FS)?14:30
bekksmamece2: you could try to use photorec14:30
aheldw1: but then startx wouldn't work!14:30
dw1ahel: here's the original that helped the other guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386329&p=8699969#post869996914:30
dw1ahel: ?14:30
bekksahel: startx isnt supposed to work. Start your X server with lightdm/gdm/etc14:31
ahelIf it was a xauthority problem14:31
dw1ahel: perhaps not14:31
dw1ahel: dont know14:31
mamece2bekks: photorec or foremost?14:31
bekksahel: Which permissions/owner does .Xauthority have?14:31
ahelbekks: that's what we're trying to do14:31
bekksmamece2: Did I write photorec or foremost?14:31
bekksahel: "ls -lha ~/.Xauthority"14:32
ahelSorry I'm slow on the phone14:32
dw1ahel: .xsession-errors might have something too14:32
mamece2bekks: isnt} photorec just for pictures?14:32
bekksmamece2: No.14:32
leipzigHi all.14:32
leipzigAnyone here experienced with hostapd?14:32
bekksleipzig: What if someone is?14:33
mamece2ok let me finnish with testdisk and I will use photorec, tyvm14:33
ahelbekks: userX proprietary and group read and write.14:34
leipzigbekks: I have been trying to use ap-hotspot which depends on hostapd, and I keep facing this issue.. http://pastebin.com/xBzEYa1Z14:35
leipzigbekks, What could be the problem?14:36
bekksleipzig: I dont see any issues in your post14:36
leipzigbekks, The issue is that ap-hotspot never completes, and no wireless hotspot is made for some reason.14:37
mamece2bekks: do you think i can skip the partition search and start recovering files from the unallocated data?14:40
Ugb3bekks: Ok same problem with lubuntu, everything is slow as vista on a pentium II and it only uses a part of the screen. I think the problem comes from the whole 14.04 and my card...14:40
ahelUsing startx in Nautilus it escalates asking my psw to mount an external HD. Does it suggest anything?14:41
OerHeksahel using startx in nautilus ? what makes you think it should do something right?14:43
OerHeksUgb3, try resetting your monitor to factory defaults, works sometimes14:44
Ugb3OerHeks: thanks, but didnt work :(14:45
mamece2 do you think i can skip the partition search from testdisk and start recovering files from the unallocated data?14:46
ahelOerHeks: didn't know it was really that bad14:47
Ugb3Ok, byebye ubuntu too bad you don't like my graphic card :'(14:49
bekksUgb3: Just get some recent hardware.14:49
Ugb3Thank you all who tried to help me.14:49
Ugb3bekks: I will, but ubuntu used to be a nice way to get "old" hardware working well... and my 7800Gt is older but working better...14:50
Ugb3Back to fedora.14:50
leipzigbekks, Any idea what could be the problem?14:50
bekksleipzig: never tried / needed to try using hostapd, sorry14:50
leipzigbekk, oh okay. Thanks, anyways..14:51
zMHi14:51
ahelI'm an inch from formatting everything14:51
bekksahel: because of?14:52
zMI have a problem with my /media directory's permissions. I can't open any media unless be su and even as su they're on "read only" mode14:52
leipzigOkay, then... I guess I'm gonna try to move to fedora too.. :\14:53
ahelI cannot make it login from lightdm and now I notice that gnome-control center goes segmentation fault14:53
bekkszM: So which ubuntu are you on?14:53
zM1414:53
bekkszM: 14 what?14:54
zMThe last LTS (14.04 right ?)14:54
bekksahel: do you have enough disk space?14:55
bekksahel: And whoch ubuntu are you on exactly?14:55
bekks*which14:55
ahelI just updated to 14.0414:56
ahelYeah I'm backing up my things on an external HD14:57
mamece2bekks: I cant create an image for the unallocated space in my external hd. what can i do?14:57
bekksmamece2: Define "i cant create an image"14:57
OerHeksmamece2, for restoring/repairing NTFS i would use UBcd with free tools, making an image of unallocated space is not easy.14:59
mamece2bekks: when i use testdisk to create an image the option are there just for data with FS defined14:59
bekksmamece2: Yeah - and testdisk isnt photorec.15:00
mamece2bekks: i thought photorec worked only with images15:01
Ugb3bekks: There must be something wrong somewhere in the last ubuntu, even the fedora installer works better, it is full screen and smooth as butter, i wish it could be like that with ubuntu.15:01
bekksmamece2: So create an image - I dont see the problem.15:01
OerHeksmamece2, you've asked it before, why do you ignore answers?15:01
bekksUgb3: The installer is irrelevant at all times.15:02
mamece2bekks: when i try to create an image I cant choose the unallocated space15:02
mamece2OerHeks: Im doing what you suggest15:02
bekksmamece2: Why not? Create a full image using dd.15:02
ragggim getting ~60MB/s write speed on a sata 2 SSD, does that seem slow or is that ok?15:02
bekksmamece2: Operate on that full image only.15:02
mamece2bekks: ok15:02
bekksraggg: thats ok.15:02
ragggbekks: cool thanks15:02
GeoHi, want to run this by you... I currently have an 80gb and a 60gb hard drive mirroring each other for /home (60gb), and the remaining 20gb on the 80gb as / . I am about to upgrade the drives and bought 2x 160gb drives. I still plan to mirror /home, but with same-sized drives, I'm hesitant to mirror / , in case mdadm has an issue at some point and I can't boot my machine.15:03
GeoWhat are your thoughts on how to divvy up the drive spacing?15:03
Ugb3bekks: I coul'nt event type in real time in the ubuntu installer...15:03
bekksGeo: Thats nonsense. You are afraif of mdadm mirroring and you want to not mirror / because of that? :)15:03
bekksGeo: Then why do you want to mirror /home if you are afraid of losing /home then?15:04
Geobekks: eh?15:05
ragggbekks: my hdd is writing faster than the ssd, is that normal?15:05
GeoI think you misunderstand15:05
bekksGeo: Either trust in mdadm and mirror everything, or dont trust in it, and dont mirror anything.15:05
GeoIf /home doesn't come up, my machine (remotely admin'd) can still come up, I can fix what didn't come up.15:06
bekksGeo: Wrong. :)15:06
GeoIf / doesn't come up, the machine never turns on, and I can't get to it15:06
asarchHow can I debug Xen kernel?15:06
bekksGeo: How are you supposed to log in your user without a /home ?15:06
asarchIt only crashes with  no "explanation" :-(15:06
Geobekks: because /home doesn't disapear... it just mounts, empty under /15:06
asarchThis machine, however, does support Xen, it used to work fine with OpenSuse15:06
bekksGeo: And you will not be able to log in since /home/user/ does not exist.15:07
patchy_85hello?15:07
bekksGeo: So redesign your strategy.15:07
Geobekks: lets pretend it does to get past this conversation- it has worked for me for the past five years just fine15:07
GeoI'm asking about /15:07
patchy_85this is my first time trying IRC, it's all quite new to me15:07
bekksGeo: If you can, mirror it.15:07
bekksGeo: Especially when you are already mirroring /home15:08
patchy_85you guys can see my messages right?15:08
sl33k_My 14.04 is very laggy. So was earlier 10.04. What is it depend upon? Could I make any hardware changes to see this go away?15:08
bekkssl33k_: So which hardware do you actually have?15:08
Ugb3patchy_85: No we don't see your message.15:08
patchy_85@Ugb3 I don't know why, did I misconfigure something?15:09
Ugb3patchy_85: This was a joke, we can read you well :)15:09
patchy_85oh lol xD15:09
davros_can anyone tell me why my desktop is black and I'm unable to open any applications after restarting? http://i.imgur.com/wjc0Pc5.png15:09
davros_this happened earlier and I had to reinstall15:10
patchy_85okay, just a quick question is this the irc channel for ubuntu only? does it also include its variants?15:10
patchy_85because I'm a xubuntu user15:10
davros_I'm running ubuntu 13.04 in parallels15:10
bekks!raring | davros_15:11
ubottudavros_: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring15:11
sl33k_bekks: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6570  @ 2.10GHz on a Dell Vostro 101515:11
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bekkssl33k_: Then you just have to live with it - that thing is about 5 years old. You could use xfce or lxde, too.15:12
sl33k_bekks: You mean core 2 duo processor?15:13
bekkssl33k_: I mean your T6570.15:13
sl33k_bekks: Would I have to reinstall the os for it? Can I switch from gnome to xfce without much hassle and work and installing?15:13
bekkssl33k_: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"15:14
kupo_herro ubuntu15:14
Ugb3sl33k_: It seems that know you have to have a recent computer to use ubuntu with unity.15:15
sl33k_bekks: This package changes just the desktop environment without anything underlying, correct?15:15
davros_does anyone have any clue why my desktop is black? I can tell the windows are there because if I click in the right place the menu bar displays the correct application name, but I can't see anything15:15
sl33k_Ugb3: What is unity? desktop environment?15:15
Ugb3sl33k_: kind of yeah.15:16
kupo_graphic error15:16
bekksdavros_: You have an unsupported Ubuntu release. Install a supported release first.15:16
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kupo_yeah. i'd try others instead of unity15:16
bekkssl33k_: Yes.15:16
sl33k_bekks: Ok i will try those commands. I hope nothing goes wrong so as to warrant a backup...15:16
jakhihow can i defragment an ext2/3/4 filesystem?15:17
bekkssl33k_: I assume you already have a backup. If you dont, you dont have to care, since you dont consider your data being worth to be kept then.15:17
bekksjakhi: you dont have to.15:17
jakhijust in case...15:18
bekksjakhi: You dont have to.15:18
jakhiassume i need to15:18
dw1sl33k_: i use the 'classic gnome' which can be installed with sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback15:18
Ugb3jakhi: You won't.15:18
bekksjakhi: I know you dont.15:18
Ugb3jakhi: There is no such fragmentation with ext systems.15:18
dw1sl33k_: http://askubuntu.com/a/65087 -- its easier on the comp than unity15:19
patchy_86is this irc channel only for ubuntu or for all ubuntu variants and flavors?15:19
bazhanghttp://linkpot.net/behead/   jakhi15:19
jakhii've heard that fsck also consolidates the filesytem15:19
dw1sl33k_: just install that package i mentioned and choose Gnome (Metacity) at login by clicking the ubuntu icon next to login box15:19
sl33k_thanks for the tip dw1. checking the link15:19
bekksjakhi: you still dont need to do that using ext filesystems.15:20
sl33k_dw1: What happens if i cancel a install at command line with ctrl-c. safe?15:20
dw1sl33k_: should avoid it15:20
OerHekspatchy_86, onlu ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu, no derivates15:21
bekkssl33k_: Not safe.15:21
Ugb3sl33k_: If you like Gnome give Fedora a try, my computer is just unusable with Unity but super smooth with fedora and Gome 3, or if you want to stay in a ubuntu-like distrib try elementary os.15:21
bekksUgb3: Or just install gnome on Ubuntu.15:21
dw1Ugb3: you can run many other desktops than unity on ubuntu ..15:21
bekksUgb3: Or use xfce, lxde, etc.15:21
dw1Ugb3: http://tinyurl.com/ubdesk15:22
patchy_86which desktop environment do you guys use?15:22
Ugb3bekks: Yeah but gnome on ubuntu is not as smooth imo and xfce etc... isn't gnome.15:22
dw1i use gnome-session-flashback aka gnome classic15:22
patchy_86I used to use xfce but since I've learned how to use i3 I can't go back :P15:22
bekksUgb3: You just said that "gnome isnt gnome" - I consider that you have no clue what you are talking about at that point.15:22
patchy_86tiling window managers are just so much more comfortable15:23
patchy_86does anyone have tried i3 or awesomewm yet?15:23
Ugb3xfce etc... are not gnome i mean. bekks15:23
Ugb3and gome on ubuntu suck imho.15:23
bekksUgb3: then again: you can use gnome on ubuntu. And watch your language.15:23
Ugb3bekks: Sorry, yeah you can but once again i think it's not that polished.15:24
OerHeksUgb3, no need to rant, this is a support channel, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat. you have old hardware, that does not apply to everybody.15:24
Ugb3It apply to sl33k_ whose i was replying to.15:25
bekksUgb3: And what do you need eye candy for, actually? For nothing, in fact. The point is, there is no reason in suggesting various distros when the same software can be run the same way and can be configured the same way on ubuntu, too.15:25
Ugb3Ok everybody leave me aline.15:25
m1dnightCan i ask questions about xfce here as well?15:25
Ugb3alone*15:25
bekksUgb3: Thats hardly possible in one of the largest channels on freenode :)15:25
bekksm1dnight: Yes.15:25
Ugb3I just was replying to sl33k_ and giving my own advice no need to flame me.15:25
m1dnightwell, I'm trying to make sure xfce does not show previous windows on startup. well, they are not really "previous" since it shows some session each time15:26
bekksUgb3: If you think other opinions than yours are "flaming you", it is you who should leave us alone, actually.15:26
m1dnightI have disabled it when I click shutdown, but it still shows me the sessin15:26
m1dnightAny clue how I can tell it "do not open anything" ?15:26
sl33k_Ugb3: I am open to all. Maybe will first check light buntus then fedora.15:26
dw1fedora = blasphemy :p15:28
bekksdw1: pain is a good teacher ;)15:28
nwgmigrating from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS.  how does one find out what happened to a package that existed in 12.04 and no longer exists in 14.04??15:30
bekksnwg: It wasnt ported to 14.04 - thats what happened.15:30
asarchThis is the dmesg's output: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/37637815:31
nwglibreadline-ruby is the package name15:32
asarchThis is lscpi's: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/37638115:32
raul7821Hi guys, is there a simple preview application(no gimp) that can add text to images, or draw rectangles15:32
raul7821on top of images15:32
asarchThese are with "normal" kernel (not the Xen's one)15:32
OerHeks!find libreadline-ruby15:32
ubottuFound: libruby1.9.115:32
OerHeksraul7821, gpaint can do that, type 'paint' in softwarecenter to see all paint applications15:33
asarchCan you create a bridge interface along with Network Manager?15:33
raul7821OerHeks:perfect. thanks a lot15:34
microsdoes anyone know of a tool or set of tools to be able to configure the wireless interface with a web page over an adhoc wireless network?  -- no keyboard after the initial service installation... i have seen some neat smartphone apps for this, but would prefer http. thoughts?15:35
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ikoniamicros: configure network on your ubuntu machine ?15:36
microsi am playing with wedmin now, but i dont know if i can customize the pages and only show one page of the entire set. - networking.15:36
microsyes15:36
ikoniamicros: thats what gnome network manager is there fore15:36
ikoniahandy little icon in the top right of your screen15:36
microsyes, but i dont have a monitor or keyboard15:36
microsembedded system15:37
ikoniamicros: what hardware platform is this ?15:37
microsso i would like to do it remotely15:37
microsraspberry pi15:37
ikoniathen it's not ubuntu15:37
ikoniaas ubuntu isn't on the pi15:37
microstrue.15:37
microslinux in general, sir.15:37
microssorry, i wasnt clear15:37
ikoniamicros: so it's not for this channel15:37
OerHeksrasp pi is arm6, ubuntu needs arm7 +15:37
ikoniano problem, it's not for this channel then15:37
microsok, thanks.15:37
rolerI have two servers running an identical 14.04 ubuntu. One has the php5-ffmpeg package installed, the other says this. and they both have the same /etc/apt/sources.list Package php5-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package… any idea??15:38
confesstovhello15:42
Joost`Is there a signal that my program can somehow catch so that it is alerted when ubuntu wakes from suspend?15:42
confesstovis there a way to gather the email lists of everyone at MIT15:43
lucianhelp! ubuntu 14.04 wil not boot! anymore after update.. keeps saying "cryptsetup: lvm not avilable" doesn't even let me drop to busybox just hangs... i dont have lvm but the system's partition is luks encrypted.15:43
compdoclucian, you encrypted your drive?15:44
luciani tried doing update-initramfs -k all -c -v but it kept saying fatal error some tmp file cant be found!15:45
bekksconfesstov: how is that related to Ubuntu?15:45
lucianyeah the drive is encrypted with luks and because im in an older kernel i can still get in15:45
luciandepmod: WARNING: could not open /tmp/mkinitramfs_*********** blah blah blah15:46
lucianok so here's that i tried to do with fix15:47
luciansudo update-initramfs -v -c -k 3.2.0-61-generic15:47
luciandepmod: WARNING: could not open /tmp/mkinitramfs_HDOATB/lib/modules/3.2.0-61-generic/modules.builtin: No such file or directory15:48
luciancan someone explain to me why there's some fatel no file found?15:48
sl33k_ok guys I had to hard shutdown my box because of OS freeze in the middle of xubuntu desktop. What do I do to install again? What happens to the previous incomplete download; it showed 55% complete when I shutted it down.15:50
sl33k_alt+printscreen+ REISUB did not work.15:50
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holsteinsl33k_: i run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and address any errors that may come up.. then, i just remove, reinstall, or install what is necessary15:50
kostkonsl33k_, if it was still downloading you should be fine15:51
lucianlinux-image-3.2.0-61-generic is just nothing but a hassle with encrypted partitions15:52
lucianhas there been any fixes as of yet?15:52
luciansome sort of hook problem15:52
sl33k_Ok how do I switch to xubuntu which seemingly installed fine?15:54
dw1sl33k_: probably by clicking on the ubuntu icon next to the username box on login page15:54
dw1sl33k_: then a list should appear15:55
sophocleshello15:55
sophoclesi have a lot of problems with wifi and ubuntu for 2wire router15:55
sophoclesit keeps getting disconnected while my win8 has no problem15:56
sl33k_dw1: The login screen appears even after you lock the screen? I will look up the combination to lock screen...15:56
robincookjoin #cubieboard15:56
dw1sl33k_: Ctrl-Alt-L will lock the screen, but no you have to log out15:56
OerHeksrobincook, leave #cubieboard15:57
robincookOerHeks, ah, why say that?15:57
luciani need to get rid of linux-image-3.2.0-61-generic but the problem is its being treated as if it doesnt exist.. cant even locate it from the repos15:57
OerHeksrobincook, as we like your spam ... not15:57
luciancant even find it in synaptic :/15:57
dw1lucian: what version of Ubuntu15:58
sl33k_great thanks15:58
robincookOerHeks, sorry, I don't get you. I am Chinese, that a main reason I am interesting in cb.15:58
luciandw1: 14.0415:58
dw1lucian: why are you on such a weird kernel :-/15:58
luciandw1: i dont know it just showed up with that number15:59
lucianin  /ls boot15:59
dw1lucian: sudo apt-get install linux-signed-image-3.13.0-24-generic15:59
dw1lucian: err15:59
sl33k_ctrl+alt+del shows only logout option. Why does not is show up restart? What is the shortcut to restart os?15:59
luciani dont know why there's a initrd.img-3.2.0-61-generic ibn /boot15:59
dw1lucian: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic15:59
lucianor how it got there15:59
dw1lucian: thats the one you should be on16:00
luciandw1: thankx, yeah i dont know what happened16:00
dw1sl33k_: are you in xubuntu now?16:01
dw1sl33k_: xfce, rather :)16:01
sl33k_dw1: no16:01
dw1sl33k_: not sure bout graphic mode but gnome-session-quit in terminal might work16:02
sl33k_how much big is xfce package install?16:02
bekkssl33k_: "sudo init 6" is the shortcut to restart the OS.16:02
dw1sl33k_: for logout16:02
dw1sl33k_: it should tell you when you use the apt-get install command16:02
sl33k_I am confused. Logout just switches accounts?16:02
lucianhow do i get rid of this 3.2.0-61 image?16:03
dw1sl33k_: yea just brings to login screen16:03
lucianapt-get can't locate it16:03
dw1lucian: sudo apt-get remove <package>16:03
lucianit wont find it16:03
dw1lucian: dpkg -l | grep 3.2.016:03
dw1lucian: use that packagename16:03
luciandw1: that didn't find anything other than 3.2.21-116:04
dw1lucian: dpkg -r <package> also works but should be the same as apt-get remove16:04
dw1lucian: oh you installed from source ?16:04
luciandw1: yes i never actually created my own kernal16:05
luciankernel*16:05
lucianso i dont know how this got there16:05
lucianbut i'd like to find it16:05
lucianand purge it out correctly16:05
dw1lucian: wont be easy without a package manager16:06
SonikkuAmericalucian: You can also try Ubuntu Tweak from tualatrix's PPA ( !PPA risk )16:06
dw1lucian: checkinstall is a utility that creates packages from source files .. so if you download the source for that exact kernel and install it again with checkinstall you can then remove the package and it will remove everything ...16:06
luciandw1: it cant locate anything thats 3.2.0-61-generic16:07
leipzigThanks everyone for your help! I was finally able to solve my hotspot issue! :)16:07
dw1lucian: or you can look at the install process and manually reverse .16:07
ikoniayou should NOT be using checkinstall to build kernel packages16:07
lucianthis is all way over my head16:07
sl33k_How does logout differ from restart?16:08
luciancant i just get rid of a simple kernel image16:08
dw1lucian: well just leave it there and switch to the latest its just a few bytes space :p16:08
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ikonialucian: how did you install the kernel image ?16:08
lucianoh i see whats going on16:09
sophocles_ i have a lot of problems with wifi and ubuntu for 2wire router16:09
sophocles_ it keeps getting disconnected while my win8 has no problem16:09
lucian3.2.0.61-generic is actually from 12.04 precise(12.04)LTS but it should have been removed during installation16:10
lucianduring a clean full install of 14.04(LTS)16:10
ikonialucian: it's not a clean install16:11
ikonialucian: if there is a 12.04 kernel there - it's not a clean install16:11
ikoniait's an upgrade of some sort16:11
lucianikonia: yeah so why did it upgrade when it should have fulling installed16:11
ikonialucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade16:12
luciananyways - i need to remove it it or I'll go OCD crazy16:12
ikonialucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade16:12
lucianikonia: no i think what happen was, during installation I didn't actuall 'format' the boot partition so i think thats why the old kernel stayed16:13
ikonialucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade16:13
sixwheeledbeastit can only be a upgrade surely?16:13
luciani forgot to format the /boot partition so thats why16:13
ikonialucian: can you please clarify - is this a clean install or an upgrade16:13
luciannow i remember16:13
dw1sophocles_: what network card? maybe can google up a solution16:13
ikoniaI'm not interested now16:13
lucianikonia: scroll up16:13
ikoniait shouldn't be this hard to get information from someone asking for help16:14
dw1sophocles_: lspci | grep Network might show it16:14
sophocles_thanks, let me checko16:14
lucianso i believe the kernel is nowhere in the / system but still lingering in /boot16:14
ikonialucian: the kernel is not in /16:15
ikoniakernels do not live in /16:15
sophocles_dw1: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)16:15
lucianso if it just rm those vmlinuzes out16:15
lucianshould be fine16:15
ikoniayou have a screwed up system16:15
dw1sophocles_: same as mine.16:15
ikoniano16:15
ikoniamore so due to encyrption16:15
ikoniaI would strongly advise you not to remove ANYTHING16:15
ikoniaat this time16:15
sl33k_When starting xfce it asked - default config or one panel? What doe it imply? What are panels exacly, pardon my terms ignorance...16:15
gccsterguys i'm running ubuntu 14.04 and lamp and even tho i have in php.ini display_errors = off i get Unknown: mysql_connect(): The mysql extension is deprecated and will be removed in the future:16:16
dw1sophocles_: didnt have any similar issues tho16:16
sophocles_hmmm16:16
sl33k_I chose default config btw16:16
sophocles_i thought it was the 2wire because i have no problem outside of it ie starbucks, coffeebean16:16
ikoniagccster: mysql connect is being replaced by PDO as a php function16:16
sophocles_2wire is pretty pathetic system but i'm not the master of this house16:16
dw1sophocles_: lsmod | grep ath = http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479084/ ?16:17
gccsterikonia, no parameter changes?16:17
sl33k_How to be comfortable with xfce? Where are the wifi widget at top? What is workspace?16:17
ikoniagccster: it's a totally different function16:17
gccsterikonia, i would like to use the deprecated but cant stop the error messages to show up16:18
ikoniahence "unknown function"16:18
ikoniagccster: it's an error as it's not installed16:18
sl33k_When starting xfce it asked - default config or one panel? What doe it imply? What are panels exacly, pardon my terms ignorance...16:18
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sophocles_grep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/747/9084/: No such file or directory16:18
gccsterikonia, how can i fix it?16:19
dw1gccster: display_errors = off just means it shouldnt show in browser but will show in the logs16:19
gccsterdw1, its still in browser16:19
sl33k_dw1: xfce feels nimble. thanks for the suggestion!16:19
dw1sophocles_: lsmod | grep ath16:20
linuxiOSgeeknick /register linuxiOSgeek16:20
dw1sl33k_: i didnt suggest xfce i suggested gnome-session-flashback :)16:20
sl33k_oh :)16:20
dw1gccster: perhaps the script turned display_errors on then16:20
linuxiOSgeekWhat version of Ubuntu are you guys running?16:20
sixwheeledbeastthe latest16:21
sl33k_If anyones used xfce. where is the wifi widget?16:21
linuxiOSgeekAre you guys part of Canonical?16:21
ikonialinuxiOSgeek: this is a communty channel16:21
ikonialinuxiOSgeek: mixture of everyone in here16:21
linuxiOSgeekOK16:21
dw1linuxiOSgeek: some are, I think. see topic. 'official support'16:21
linuxiOSgeekWhy does Linux not require defragmentation?16:22
ikonialinuxiOSgeek: file system works different16:22
bazhang!defrag | linuxiOSgeek16:22
ubottulinuxiOSgeek: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext4) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this.16:22
sophocles_how do i paste it to the bin from command line and grep?16:22
sophocles_come again?16:22
k1llinuxiOSgeek: the ext4 filesystem got a journal. that defrags the filesystem right in time16:22
linuxiOSgeekYour ext4 filesystem link is broken16:23
gccsterdw1, if i turn it on it shows DEPRECATED warning  now it says Unknown: mysql_connect16:23
ALourencoHello. I need to patch module mac80211, can anyone help me?16:23
k1l!pastebinit | sophocles_16:23
ubottusophocles_: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com16:23
dw1gccster: try ##php16:23
linuxiOSgeekUbottu's link is broken, pleas fix16:23
freijonbazhang: that URL seems broken16:24
linuxiOSgeekWhich OS should I use on my ASUS K53E, Windows 8, or Ubuntu 14.04?16:24
dw1sophocles_: if youre in the gui interface select the text then middle mouse button on the destination16:24
ikonialinuxiOSgeek: it's all about what you need/want and what you are comfortable with16:25
ikonialinuxiOSgeek: totally up to you - see which you like best16:25
linuxiOSgeekOK16:25
k1llinuxiOSgeek: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: ubuntu :)16:25
sophocles_http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479118/16:25
sophocles_thanks16:25
linuxiOSgeekDo you use iOS on your Apple devices, or do you not have any iOS devices?16:25
linuxiOSgeekiOS uses the Linux kernel too!16:26
OerHekslinuxiOSgeek, this is ubuntu support, join the apple channel for ios issues16:26
k1llinuxiOSgeek: for not ubuntu related chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic16:26
tking0036Thats not even true either.. They use the BSD mach kernel16:26
linuxiOSgeekNo, Cocoa Touch16:26
dw1sophocles_: looks similar to mine .. wonder what the 3k is for16:27
sophocles_dw1: greek to me16:27
dw1sophocles_: i might suggest changing router channel to one with less interference, but if windows works16:27
dw1sophocles_: i guess its for the bluetooth16:27
sophocles_oh well, i mean it's working now, just spotty16:28
sophocles_might be the repeater16:28
sophocles_thanks tho16:28
linuxiOSgeekI will join your other channel for non Ubuntu users, OK?16:28
stemidI messed up my sudoers config so I thought gksu would save me but gksu nautilus just returns 1. same with gksu rm /etc/sudoers.d/my_broken_file16:29
bekkslinuxiOSgeek: Which "other channel"? :)16:29
linuxiOSgeek#ubuntu-offtopic16:29
linuxiOSgeekDoes Linux require rebooting as much as Windows does?16:30
nwglinux very rarely requires reboot16:30
dw1sophocles_: there could be some information in /var/log/syslog16:31
stemidpkexec visudo did what I needed16:31
dw1would raising TTL make disconnections due to interference less frequent?16:33
sophocles_how do i pipe into a text file? what is the command16:34
perdomwxecho test > test.txt16:34
freijon>> appends, > overwrites16:35
dw1sophocles_: echo "test" > file;  cat file | grep something > file216:36
sophocles_ic16:36
dw1sophocles_: "I went thru the same recently the only thing that helped was to change the channel of the wireless router. After that no more drops."16:36
sophocles_what do you mean cahnge the channel of the wireless router16:36
sophocles_i don't have access to the router, that's the other problem, i would try hacking into the admin page16:37
dw1sophocles_: yeah you probably can16:37
sl33k_Is xfce xubuntu the same?16:37
daftykinssame as what?16:37
sl33k_and*16:37
sophocles_the roomate, the person who owns the router, is not being very decent about it16:37
sophocles_ok i will look into that. thanks guys. i didn't mean to say i use win8, i only bought it bc i had a job interview. ubuntu is #116:38
daftykinssl33k_: xfce is a desktop environment that can be installed on ubuntu. xubuntu is a download of ubuntu which comes with xfce as default instead of unity. it is lighter weight and runs better with less resources than unity16:39
dw1sophocles_: http://google.com/search?q=change+channel+router -- if you type route in terminal it should say the 'gateway' IP which is probably the same IP you need to browse to to access admin page16:39
ikoniasophocles_: you're free to use what you want, it doesn't matter to us what you like best, no need to apologise for using windows16:39
sophocles_;)16:39
daftykinsjust don't ask us to support it :)16:39
Yelusophocles_, if your roommate's router had ethernet plugs, you could use another wireless router you'd control (or simply plug your machine directly).16:40
ALourencoHello. I need to patch module mac80211, can anyone help me?16:40
sl33k_daftykins: so to install xubuntu I will have to remove my current install or run it on the vm?16:40
dw1sophocles_: then either try the user/pass written on the router or google the model for default login16:40
daftykinssl33k_: no, it can also be installed via the metapackage 'xubuntu-desktop'16:40
sl33k_my install is ubuntu16:40
sl33k_daftykins: essentially that package runs on top of ubuntu16:41
sl33k_Am I on the same page?16:41
daftykinssl33k_: packages are software for installing. it installs :)16:41
sl33k_:)16:41
dw1sl33k_: youre basically on xubuntu :p16:41
OerHeks!purexfce16:42
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »16:42
dw1sl33k_: until you install another desktop and try that ! :)16:42
kupo_anyone try lxde qt yet?16:43
kupo_also. whats recent lxde ppa? installed lxde not lubuntu16:43
dbuggerHi16:43
17SAAFDV4hi16:43
dbuggerIs anyone having trouble with 14.04, where the youtube videos dont show any audio for the first 4 seconds?16:44
dw1kupo_: http://askubuntu.com/a/6513116:44
dw1dbugger: i used to have that problem16:44
dw1dbugger: it worked itself out.. :/16:44
17SAAFDV4天才!16:44
kupo_thanks16:44
SonikkuAmerica!jp | 17SAAFDV416:45
ubottu17SAAFDV4: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。16:45
dbuggerdw1, I had it on 13.10 and now with 14.04 goes on16:45
dbuggerweird16:45
17SAAFDV4sorry ;o16:45
kupo_yeah. dont want lubuntu. lxde is fine. just wanted ppa for updates for it. i shold try the new qt version. heard good things16:46
dw1dbugger: at the bottom of youtube if you click Try something new it might offer you HTML5 as the default player - maybe it will help16:47
ALourencook, screw this. goodbye16:47
dannyedwrdsI have been trying to load the ubuntu live cd with a USB drive using unetbottin and when I boot it up after the ubuntu boot screen it get stuck at a black screen with no back light16:48
dw1dannyedwrds: I guess you can use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to load terminal, and there is a problem with teh graphic driver16:48
sl33k_This was what I was asking http://askubuntu.com/questions/91380/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntuxfce-and-xubuntu16:48
sl33k_so yeah I got satisfying answers ;)16:49
geraldbrentdannyedwrds, I would try nomodeset.16:49
dannyedwrdsdw1: so when I get into the terminal where do I go from there16:49
dbuggerdw1, it is already on HTML5. The thing is, it doesnt happen just on YouTube anyway16:49
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dw1dbugger: i found skipping ahead and back fixed it..16:50
dannyedwrdsgeraldbrent: there is no choice for nomodeset ive already tried looking for it that little simble at the boot screen is not there at all16:50
dw1dbugger: but yeah i think it happened in vlc too.. hm16:50
monkayHey, anyone got airmon-ng work in Ubuntu 14? I only get the error msg ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS) failed: Operation not possible due to RF-kill16:50
dw1dannyedwrds: good question...16:50
monkayWhen trying to airodump-ng mon016:50
saimoelehiù16:51
saimoelehi16:51
dw1dannyedwrds: i suppose you could install a driver package. do you have an add-on video card ?16:51
dannyedwrdsdw1: negative I have a ATI Radeon HD 8400 in my laptop16:52
dw1dannyedwrds: /var/log/Xorg.0.log may have more info about the exact issue, if you can view it16:53
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xenoCan I get a hint why there aren't simple packages chef-client and chef-server on Ubuntu?16:53
ikoniabecause chef is not simple16:53
xenoThat is not a reasonable answer.16:54
ikoniait is16:54
ikoniayou want a simple version of something that's not simple16:54
dw1dannyedwrds: installing fglrx-installer might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD16:54
ikoniait's unreasonble to ask for something like that16:54
dw1dannyedwrds: then you might get to desktop by running 'lightdm'16:54
dannyedwrdsdw1: but how would I install graphics drivers if I can't even see the screen16:55
dw1dannyedwrds: if you press ctrl-alt-f1 at the black screen you might get a terminal16:55
dannyedwrdsdw1: ok ill give it a try16:55
MagicMadJamis this the help channel?17:01
geraldbrentYes indeed!17:01
MagicMadJamWell, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and I dont seem to have sound17:01
GTRsdkSo I switched to a new motherboard & CPU and now my Ubuntu doesn't boot17:01
GTRsdkWindows 7 does though17:01
TheHypnotistI was wondering, having recently been learning about windows 2012 server and all of it's active directory and many other features for managing a network.. Are there solution likes this for ubuntu / linux in general ?17:01
ikoniaGTRsdk: need more info than "won't boot"17:02
GTRsdkbut after I get past GRUB all I see for Ubuntu us just a white _ on a black background17:02
MagicMadJamI followed the basic troubleshooting and alsamixer finds everything ok and gives me a slide board but in sound preferences, I only have a dummy output... ideas?17:02
GTRsdkno signs of loading17:02
ikoniaGTRsdk: boot into single user mode, remove the boot spash17:02
ikoniasplash17:02
GTRsdkikonia: What do I do at GRUB to get into that?17:03
ikoniathe easy way is to use the recovery menu item from grub17:03
MagicMadJamgeraldbrent: ideas?17:04
GTRsdkah so then that should get me to the "enter root password for maintainance or press Control+D to continue"?17:04
ikoniait shouldn't ask you for the root password as there is no root password in ubuntu17:04
dannyedwrdsWell I wasn't able to get into the terminal at all17:05
GTRsdkalright. I'll reboot and try it.17:05
MagicMadJamI just dont get why it says dummy output.17:06
dannyedwrdsWell after the boot screen is still at a black screen with no back light and I can't get into the terminal and am not able to get to the terminal17:06
MagicMadJamand speech dispatcher is disabled17:06
LonelyDanbowhat maps a USB gamepad's controls to the mouse cursor by default? I can't seem to search for results on the net.17:10
LonelyDanboBTW, I'm using Xubuntu (but #xubuntu isn't responding to my problem17:10
MagicMadJamBack, force alsa to reload didnt work17:15
MagicMadJamI still have a dummy output even though alsamixer in terminal says I have intel17:15
geraldbrent:(17:16
LonelyDanbook. it's not the NES emulator that's mapping my gamepad controls to strange crap, because I just uninstalled it and it's still moving the damned mouse cursor.17:18
MagicMadJamreboot?17:18
MagicMadJamLonelyDanbo: reboot?17:19
LonelyDanbooh. do I need to do that too? k.17:19
MagicMadJamLonelyDanbo: not entirely sure but probably would help.17:20
Jiraffe_What does this error mean? bit.ly/1oB5crX ?17:20
LonelyDanboNope. gamepad still moving the mouse cursor.17:21
LonelyDanbobuttons do strange things too. one pastes my clipboard. the other does mouse right-click.17:22
cereciao17:23
LonelyDanboI didn't know Xubuntu had a default installed to handle gamepads.17:24
random_user12312Hello, how to run a graphic program as root? kdesu and sudo dont do it right.17:24
MagicMadJamLonelyDanbo: im not sure. that's not good. It seems that the nes emulator or whatever you install remapped your keyboard keys, you might want to search hwo to restore your system's keymappings17:24
bekksrandom_user12312: sudo messed up .Xauthority permissions,, and gksu and kdesu do it just right,17:24
dannyedwrdsWell after the boot screen is still at a black screen with no back light and I can't get into the terminal and am not able to get to the terminal17:25
dannyedwrdsany ideas what i can do?17:25
MagicMadJambrb restarting to try and fix my audio problem17:25
random_user12312bekks: thank you, gksu does it right, thank you17:26
LonelyDanbowhat's a "system keymapping"?17:27
LonelyDanbois it just the keyboard? why would a gamepad be part of that?17:27
xeno<bekks> xeno: That means you are not using an official vbox release. Ask the Ubuntu support then, or use an official release.17:28
SamsonHi from Netherlands17:29
LonelyDanbogod I hate my life. why can't simple things just work.17:30
woof-woofHi from Brazil! > Samson17:30
GeoI upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and now my mail server seems to be bouncing messages. Where/how should I start troubleshooting?17:30
Samsonsorry can not good engelisch17:30
bekksxeno: Forming a full question qould be helpful for all the others.17:30
xenoThe trouble is, I am cloning a virtualbox vm, and when I clone it from a saved state which is booted with a setting to generate a new MAC accress, I do not get the new MAC address, but the booted one on the source vm.17:31
SamsonWie is hier nederlands????17:31
DJones!nl | Samson17:31
ubottuSamson: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl17:31
xenoVBGUI version 4.3.10_Ubuntu17:31
bekksxeno: Provide the important part too: you are using a vbox version from the ubuntu repos.17:31
LonelyDanbowhat would remap a gamepad's controls to move the mouse cursor? someone said "system keymappings" but isn't that the keyboard?17:31
bekksxeno: and there is no such things as "VBGUI", but just "VirtualBox".17:32
xenoYes, thank you bekks.  I am using a Virtualbox version as installed from standard Debian.  My Debian is17:32
Samsonubottu in ubunto softwarecentrum???17:32
ubottuSamson: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:32
GTRsdkikonia: recovery mode worked :D17:32
bekksxeno: For debian support please seek the debian support channels. :)17:32
xenoSorry, Ubuntu...17:33
xenoMy Ubuntu is 14.04.17:33
bekksxeno: Pastebin "lsb_release -a" please as well as "apt-cache search virtualbox"17:33
Samsonis er ook een chat voor nederlands talig?17:34
bekks!nl | Samson17:34
ubottuSamson: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl17:34
xenoSo, to recapitulate, I am booted, I save the state to a booted state that is not running.  I clone the virtualbox with the setting to regenerate the MAC address to a new one, and that creates a virtualbox vm that still has the original's MAC address17:34
Samsonok17:34
bekksxeno: Please provide the information requested.17:34
xenoWhen I do the same thing with a virtualbox that is shut down, not saved in a booted state, then it DOES generate the new MAC address.17:35
xenoThe combination used is virtualbox installed on Ubuntu 14.04, but I am installing Debian on the virtualboxes themselves.17:35
xenoI have not tested with Ubuntu on the virtualboxes themselves, but presumably that is not the issue.17:36
bekksxeno: I take that as you dont want to provide the information requested. Good luck in getting support for your issue.17:36
xenobekks:  lease clarify any information I have left out.17:36
ErvisTushahi all17:36
ErvisTusha how can i submit my app to Ubuntu Software Center ?17:36
bekksxeno: The information request you ignored was "< bekks> xeno: Pastebin "lsb_release -a" please as well as "apt-cache search virtualbox"" - and I am not going to support issues when I have to request information three times.17:37
bekksor even more times.17:38
xenoHere is the pastebin bekks is suggesting, I think:  http://pastebin.com/x4e3PjJt17:39
xenoPlease clarify if anything else should be provided.17:39
bekksxeno: Ask someone else please.17:40
xenoLooks bekks, I am trying to follow your instructions.  It is not very helpful to get impatient and not give a person time to follow through.17:41
xenoIn fact, I suspect it's against nettiquette.17:41
Yeluxeno, if it's not only for comfort reasons, try command line with your cloned machine in OFF state (see manual): VBoxManage modifyvm <yourvm> --macaddress<1-N> auto|<mac> => With this option you can set the MAC address of the virtual network card. Normally, each virtual network card is assigned a random address by VirtualBox at VM creation17:41
zonovromanSomebody, who knows when dpm will be online?17:42
xenoYelu:  Okay, thank you.17:42
Yeluxeno, the randomizer for a new mac is to be implemented yet17:42
Yelu;)17:42
xenoMeanwhile, I can submit a formal bug if that would be helpful.17:42
whitehathave ubuntu 14.04. anyone know of a way to save state between sessions, including all open programs in all workspaces?17:43
bekksxeno: In fact, I am supporting people in my free time. There is no god given right granted to you to be supported by me. I am the only one who decides to support people under which circumstances. I told you I am not supporting people when I have to ask three time or more for teh same requested information. If you dont accept that. just move on. Thats it. End of discussion.17:43
xenoOh wait, are you kidding?  It works sometimes.17:43
mamece2bekks: Hi, i have a question about dd. I have a 1 TB hd, i made a 800 Gb partition, now i can make a image with dd from my 750 GB external drive to the 800GB partition , right?17:44
xenoYelu:  Do you mean it is only beta.  As I said, it works when I clone from a non-booted state.17:44
bekksmamece2: Yes.17:44
bekksYelu: the randomizer just works fine, the solution is that the mac address in a saved state cant be changed.17:45
Yeluxeno, I had no problems under 12.04 LTS, but also your error description is new to me. - I'll test this next week under 14.04 (so you are ahead with your knowledge ...)17:46
mirakhello17:46
xenoOk.  You are welcome to contact me for more information if I can be helpful at xeno@eskimo.com17:46
Samsonher from netherlands17:46
mirakI have read deboostrap was deprecated17:46
Yeluxeno, thank you17:46
mirakso how do I install debootstrap like ?17:46
GeoI upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04, and now my mail server seems to be bouncing messages. Where/how should I start troubleshooting?17:47
SchrodingersScat!info debootstrap | mirak17:47
ubottumirak: debootstrap (source: debootstrap): Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.59ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 29 kB, installed size 228 kB17:47
GeoLog files don't show any obvious errors17:47
xenoOk.  Sorry I'm slow at this.  I'm not trying to ignore people.  Best wishes.17:47
mirak!info debootstrap | mirak17:47
mamece2bekks: i dont need to do that from a live CD. amirite? its not necessary17:47
SchrodingersScatmirak: it's in the repos, an 'apt-get install debootstrap' should install it.17:47
mirakSchrodingersScat, I have it, I am on quantal.17:47
SchrodingersScatmirak: what are you trying to do?17:47
bekksmamece2: the source has to be offline, which means not mounted, used by anything else, etc.17:47
mirakSchrodingersScat, just install ubuntu trusty.17:48
Samsonwie schrijft nederlands???17:48
bekks!nl | Samson17:48
ubottuSamson: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl17:48
mirakSchrodingersScat, but I need to do it from a running ubuntu.17:48
mamece2bekks: ok, nothing will be mounted17:48
Samsonhe bekks17:48
saimoelehi17:48
mirakSchrodingersScat, maybe I could use an alternate cd, but well i don't need to17:48
Yelubekks, thank you for clarifiction on MAC randomizer topic17:48
Samsonwelke bekks??17:49
mamece2bekks: photorec uses image with the extension .img?17:54
Yeluxeno, to have an identical/similar test bed: which Debian you are installing as guest in VirtualBox on Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 LTS (as the host)?17:56
Yeluxeno, and which network interfaces=17:56
sl33k_ My gnome terminal on xfce does not show up prompt. Its all black with no cursor.17:57
dw1sl33k_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/280896/why-do-i-have-no-prompt-in-terminal-on-xfce-in-ubuntu-12-0417:58
bekksmamece2: file extensions have no meaning in linux.17:59
geraldbrentHere's a weird one for you guys: my computer refuses to boot plugged into power. Just gives me a black screen with a cursor. Usually happens after tty1 flashes up there while lightdm starts loading.18:00
MonkeyDustsl33k_  matbe the background and text have the same colors18:00
MonkeyDustmaybe*18:00
sl33k_MonkeyDust: indeed18:01
MonkeyDust!nomodeset | geraldbrent try this18:01
ubottugeraldbrent try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:01
sl33k_dw1: that did it. thanks18:01
geraldbrentAlready tried that MonkeyDust. Nothing too odd shows up with quiet and splash disabled in the boot args.18:02
mamece2bekks: I have this issue. when i get to testdisk to make the image. I choose the external drive, then none as the partition (so I can make the image for the entire hd). then when i get to choose destination i cant choose /dev/sdb3 (the new partition in the 1 TB drive)18:04
mcphailHi. I'm thinking of getting an AMD A10-6700 APU to replace my current system which has a low-end nvidia card. Does anyone have any experience with the current iteration of the open-source radeon drivers? Would this be suitable for general use and light gaming without installing the proprietary drivers?18:04
geraldbrentmcphail: I've had mixed results, but they seem to work well enough.18:05
mcphailgeraldbrent: mixed? in what way?18:05
geraldbrentSome of the computers I tried it on had some issues with choppiness. Others ran extemely smooth.18:06
mcphailgeraldbrent: was this a discrete GPU or one of the combined APUs?18:06
geraldbrentOh, didn't see that. I've never dealt with APU's, but I'm sure that it would be fine.18:07
newbie|2I would like to backup my cell phone, a Sony Xperia SP, to my desktop computer.  I haven't yet succeeded.   Anyone wanna help me?18:08
newbie|2The cell phone is connected to the computer18:08
mcphailgeraldbrent: cheers. The drivers seem much better with the built-in ATi chip on my old socket 939 mobo so I think I'll give it a try. If it doesn'twork with the current kernel I'm sure it will soon. Thanks!18:08
geraldbrent:)18:09
Pessimistmcphail: last time I checked hd5000-hd6000~ had the best performance with radeon. If you have a new gpu you will have to use catalyst to get a proper performance, radeon is slow to catch up18:09
GTRsdkokay so to add more information as to what I'm experiencing18:10
GTRsdkUbuntu now loads and runs very slowly18:10
mcphailPessimist: argh- not what I wanted to hear. I've got the urge to buy some new kit!18:10
newbie|2I have the impression that the computer sees only the memory card.  I'm looking to be sure that all my user data - including that which might be on the internal memory of the cell phone18:10
GTRsdkbefore I had a dual core Core 2 Duo on an Intel Desktop Board, now I use an Xeon L5410 (quad core) on an MSI G41M-P3318:11
newbie|2GTRsdk: I am a newbie, otherwise I would offer to help.18:11
GTRsdkon Windows it runs very fast, but Ubuntu is like 10x slower18:11
Pessimistmcphail: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/18:11
daftykinsnewbie|2: what are you running?18:12
newbie|2Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit18:12
newbie|2I tried with Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS, but that doesn't recognize the cell phone18:13
newbie|2daftykins: I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS18:13
mcphailPessimist: good link. Actually looks quite promising18:13
daftykinsnewbie|2: ok so if you go into settings and storage on your phone, there may well be three dots on the top right hand corner (or elsewhere) to get to USB storage options, check you're in MTP mode18:13
mirakIs there a full ubuntu installer that can be run from a running ubuntu ?18:13
dmavroidhello to everyone! It has been a while since I played around with ubuntu and now I am facing problems with upgrading my ubuntu version. could someone advice me of what to do? Thanks18:13
daftykinsdmavroid: please use paste.ubuntu.com to share what's going wrong18:14
Pessimistmcphail: I recommend also searching on phoronix.com for performance tests of your gpu :)18:14
Pessimistor openbenchmark18:14
GTRsdkI'm going to build my own kernel and see if that solves the problem18:15
Pessimistdmavroid: what problems?18:15
VivekanandaI missed my chats yesterday18:16
dmavroidgive me a sec to paste bin the log18:16
newbie|2daftykins: I am in Connectivity.  I see "Install PC Companion".  Just under that, I find "USB connection mode" in dark -  so inaccessible18:16
mamece2dont worry i foudn out how to do it18:16
daftykinsnewbie|2: it might not be possible to change it whilst you're connected already18:16
Vivekanandaanyone here can help me with vpn connection and resultant loss of internet ? Someone asked me to paste the result of route -n pre and post connection and i did . Can anyone comment18:16
dmavroidbasically it says failed to download repository information18:16
Vivekanandausing ubuntu 12.04 and connecting via openvpn using the NManager plugin18:17
newbie|2daftykins: You saw it right.  I put it in MTP mode (it wasn't in that mode before)18:17
daftykinsnewbie|2: ah-ha! so now you should get it either automatically open a window when you plug it in - and the screen is unlocked, or you can open the 'files' program18:18
mamece2we noobs STAND ALONE18:18
mcphailPessimist: I've never found benchmark sites like Phoronix very helpful as they never reflect the qualitative experience. The last time I tried the readeon drivers they were slow, blurry and corrupted the display through HDMI. They seem much better now. I'd like to ditch nvidia as soon as possible. Thanks for your help!18:18
mcphail*radeon18:18
Pessimistmcphail: if you are on ubuntu you can also try this ppa http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?50038-Updated-and-Optimized-Ubuntu-Free-Graphics-Drivers18:19
newbie|2daftykins: I found "lucky backup" and it is doing its job.  Thanks !!18:19
daftykinsnewbie|2: my pleasure :)18:19
daftykinsnewbie|2: if you want standard text messages, i highly recommend the program "SMS Backup & Restore" by Ritesh Sandhu (or similar)18:20
newbie|2daftykins: I am a newbie, even though I've been in Linux for a number of years18:20
mcphailPessimist: great. I'll bookmark that one18:20
newbie|2daftykins: What I need to do is to backup everything because the cell phone invites me to update it to the version that is already on it.  I will do a factory reboot and, if I didn't do the backup, I'd lose all my user date18:21
newbie|2data *18:22
dmavroid<daftykins>: How can I attach a screenshot?18:22
dmavroid<daftykins>: since there is nothing i can copy and paste18:22
newbie|2daftykins: I saw some error messages on certain files during the backup.18:23
Pessimistdmavroid: issue the upgrade command from the terminal and then you can paste18:23
daftykinsdmavroid: use any free image upload site18:23
Pessimist*copy&paste18:23
daftykinsnewbie|2: you should see the files listed on the phone now, yes? so you can just copy and paste everything onto your computer18:24
dmavroidhow can i see my ubuntu version from the terminal?18:24
MonkeyDustdmavroid  cat /etc/issue18:24
miloXLAre there logs for when my laptop is operational?18:24
miloXLi.e. turned on18:25
dmavroid<daftykins>: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479681/18:25
newbie|2daftykins: I'm using lucky backup to backup my user data ... to my desktop.18:26
dmavroid<daftykins>: my version is 13.0418:26
MonkeyDustdmavroid  type daf [tab] for nick completion18:26
daftykinsdmavroid: aaah, an EOL version18:26
daftykins!eolupgrade18:26
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:26
daftykinsdmavroid: check out the link above18:26
Vivekanandaanyone care to comment ?18:26
MonkeyDustVivekananda  on what?18:27
daftykinsVivekananda: you really need to read into VPN use more, what you're asking is very basic operation18:27
dmavroid<daftykins>: which link? :S18:27
daftykinsdmavroid: the second about EOL upgrades18:27
Vivekanandadaftykins: I understood that on connection I can get internet still if I check a box on the routes gui. I did that an yet nothing so stuck now . What should I read ?18:27
daftykinsVivekananda: did you have some pastebin links from the previous person that asked you to check routes?18:28
dmavroid<daftykins>: do you think is easier if i just download the new version of ubuntu instead of upgrading the existing one?18:28
Vivekanandadaftykins: I get the connection but lose internet.  It is not that my vpn is not connecting so this is more of troubleshooting. What do I read ? yes it is here --  https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c75918:29
daftykinsdmavroid: it definitely would be yes, but it depends if you have much data you would have to backup first. or if your system is partitioned18:29
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dmavroid<daftykins>: thanks a million! I am going for a fresh install18:29
daftykinsdmavroid: my pleasure :) good luck!18:30
daftykinsVivekananda: at a guess i think your DNS servers get changed which stops things from working, are you familiar with 'nslookup' ?18:31
Vivekanandano I am quite the newbie for internet connections and router stuff. Tell me what to read18:31
Vivekanandajust so you kknow this is a remote computer I am trying to connect to  daftykins18:32
daftykinsVivekananda: right but that part already works? are you looking to have internet access through the VPN or through your own connection?18:32
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VivekanandaI want to have net through my own but be able to use the remote computer too and install things on it using its own net18:33
ubuntuinharmonyHow can you fix a broken sudoers file?18:33
daftykinsVivekananda: why didn't you just setup SSH access? :)18:33
bekksubuntuinharmony: By fixing the syntax errors.18:33
bekksubuntuinharmony: Or by restoring your backup18:34
ubuntuinharmonyWhat syntax errors?18:34
ubuntuinharmonyUbuntu One backup?18:34
ratskinmahoneyubuntuinharmony: how broken? can you still sudo?18:34
BluewolfHow do I run a .sh file in my downloads through the terminal?18:34
bekksubuntuinharmony: Define "broken" please.18:34
ubuntuinharmonyLike, not even being able to use gksudo18:34
daftykinsVivekananda: anyway, pastebin these "cat /etc/resolv.conf" "nslookup google.com" now connect to the VPN and run again "nslookup google.com" and "ping 8.8.8.8" (press ctrl+c to stop this after 4 or more packets have been sent)18:35
daftykinsBluewolf: that depends, what is it?18:35
Bluewolfdaftykins: HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh18:35
daftykinsBluewolf: you're absolutely sure there's no better way to install that?18:36
daftykins(i have no idea what it is)18:36
ratskinmahoneyubuntuinharmony: will need to go into recovery mode to get to root, then. I'd advise looking up a copy of a 'standard' sudoers file, if you didn't take your own backup, and replacing the broken one18:36
Vivekanandaokay trying that now18:36
ubuntuinharmonyWhat counts as "standard"?18:36
ratskinmahoneyAnd thence, only ever to edit the file via visudo18:37
ubuntuinharmonyvisudo would never work either18:37
GeoHow would I mirror an email account hosted elsewhere on my ubuntu server? ie, it logs in to the other account, synchs via IMAP, but then allows me to connect to its own IMAP serer to access that mail. I'm not looking for an email client; just a way to mirror a seperate server18:37
Bluewolfdaftykins: I have selected allow as an executable in properties and double clicked it, gedit is opening up and its freezing. Could my download be corrupt?18:37
BluewolfHow do I check?18:38
daftykinsBluewolf: so open a terminal, navigate to where that file is (probably just type "cd ~/Downloads" then "chmod +x HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh" then "./HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh"18:38
daftykinsBluewolf: well i would do a quick google check to see that that's the best way to get that game running on ubuntu18:38
bekksubuntuinharmony: What is your actual issue with the sudoers file?18:39
ubuntuinharmonyIs there a way to get a kernel panic in Ubuntu?18:39
bekksubuntuinharmony: Yes.18:39
bekksubuntuinharmony: But whats your issue with the sudoers file?18:39
ubuntuinharmonyHow?18:39
bekksubuntuinharmony: Whats your actual support issue?18:40
* daftykins is sensing troll potential18:40
Pessimistubuntuinharmony: kill 118:41
Bluewolfdaftykins: Yeah I have checke and what you say confirms that. chmod +x HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh does nothing and ./HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh says "bash: ./HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy"18:41
ilhamiHey18:41
ubuntuinharmonysudo rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root18:41
ilhamia good editor for ubuntu?18:41
bekks!danke18:41
bekks!danger18:41
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!18:41
PessimistBluewolf: isn't there hon in the ubuntu repos? or a ppa?18:41
bekks!ops | ubuntuinharmony18:42
ubottuubuntuinharmony: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!18:42
ilhamiI  need one with text highlighting...18:42
bekksdaftykins: you were right.18:42
Pessimistilhami: vim and do :syntax on18:42
ubuntuinharmonyvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvimvim18:42
BluewolfPessimist: Ubuntu repos or a ppa?18:42
ilhamiPessimist, how do I put syntax on?18:43
jribubuntuinharmony: if you want help with a real ubuntu issue, please ask about it.  If you just want to get banned then continue18:43
bekksCan some op please remove that troll?18:43
IdleOneubuntuinharmony: Do you have an actual issue you need help with?18:43
daftykinsBluewolf: yes commands don't output anything when they work :) it's meant to be 1.9GB, so type "ls -hl" and compare the size against 1.9GB18:43
ubuntuinharmonyvim18:43
Pessimistilhami: open the file: vim FILE or just open vim and write :o FILE then write :syntax on18:43
bekksIdleOne: thank you18:43
ilhamiPessimist,  I will try.18:44
ilhamithanks18:44
mamece2bekks: hello, do u know how photorec works? does it start recognizing the files as text but then it will reconstruct them to movies and pictures?18:44
Vivekanandadaftykins: if you are there  https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c75918:44
irhassping18:44
Vivekanandaoo good I have net back18:44
Vivekanandadaftykins: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/08e15119809c7b36c75918:44
bekksmamece2: It will start recognizing files by its content.18:44
irhasscan someone help me with my mic problem? please?18:45
Pessimistilhami: a good tutorial comes with vim. Run vimtutor from a terminal and do it before using :)18:45
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OerHeksPessimist +118:45
Vivekanandano nslookup / ping working after net connection to vpn. Also  I am using vpn coz thta is the only thing available to me from the user of the remote network18:45
gadgetroid_irhass: what is the problem with it?18:45
daftykinsVivekananda: ok, so something has totally reconfigured your connection to break more than just DNS. are you handling the VPN entirely through network-manager?18:46
Bluewolfdaftykins: 2,2GB - HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh, Thats strange I downloaded it through the terminal because of my internet connection - wget -c http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh18:46
irhasscant record any voicea18:46
mamece2bekks: so if its says its a .txt it will leave it like that?18:46
irhass*voicea18:46
Vivekanandayes18:46
irhassvoices i mean18:46
bekksmamece2: file extensions have no meaning in linux.18:46
daftykinsBluewolf: ok try "sh HoNClient-3.2.7.1.sh"18:46
SchrodingersScatmamece2: it might look at file header, so looking at the file to see how it identifies vs known headers, because the filename means nothing.18:47
Vivekanandabut I mistakenly also installed openvpn client using sudo apt-get and then ran it once ( was before I restarted the system) using  -  openvpn --cofigure client.ovpn18:47
lucastti tried to install 32libs(sudo apt-get install ia32-libs), and it threw some errors18:47
lucasttit says it was impossible to fix the problems, because i held broken packages18:47
lucasttand that the package has unmet dependencies18:47
bekkslucastt: can you pastebin the entire output please?18:47
gadgetroid_irhass: Which version of Ubuntu?18:47
bekks!pastebin | lucastt18:48
ubottulucastt: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:48
gadgetroid_irhass, also, what is your config?18:48
MonkeyDustlucastt  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue18:48
mamece2SchrodingersScat: bekks what about the folders? I can see he recovers the files into recover.1 and so on. will i get the folder in its original order?18:48
Pessimistlucastt: tell us what ubuntu version you are using :)18:48
lucasttbekks, i could, but the output is in Portuguese18:48
daftykinsVivekananda: have you removed that package since?18:48
bekksmamece2: No.18:48
lucasttPessimist, 12.0418:48
Bluewolfdaftykins: http://pastebin.com/MspNG0Af18:48
bekkslucastt: LANG=C apt-get ...18:49
irhasssaucy18:49
lucasttok18:49
irhassi don't know how find the mic conf file18:49
lucastthttp://pastebin.com/DAh8c00D18:49
daftykinsBluewolf: ok, you're going to need to delve into the game's support forum and/or look around at how to run/install it with ubuntu. this is their responsibility, not ubuntu's18:50
mamece2What would you experts use to migrate your hd info to a new hd?18:50
bekksmamece2: cp or rsync18:50
daftykinsVivekananda: i'm not convinced the settings are right for ignoring routes and so on with your VPN setup, but i don't use one myself to comment.18:50
Decstasymamece2 dd18:50
GTRsdkmamece2: cp /home to the new drive18:51
bekksDecstasy: dd will produce unnecessary amounts of data :)18:51
hpprinter100Hey, i'm running 13.04 and i am vnc'ing to it, but the screen is not updating. Any ideas why?18:51
lucasttbekks, http://pastebin.com/DAh8c00D18:51
mamece2thx18:51
bekks!raring | hpprinter10018:51
ubottuhpprinter100: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring18:51
mamece2!upgrade18:51
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade18:51
bekkslucastt: Did you try to install that missing package?18:51
MonkeyDusthpprinter100  upgrade to a supported release, then ask again18:51
mamece2!eol18:51
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:51
Bluewolfdaftykins: Fair enough it there problem, but is the file itself okay?18:52
Decstasybekks that belongs how you use it :)18:52
lucasttbekks, no, i tought i wouldn't need. should i?18:52
sysop_hostif you're going to dd you might as well use dcfldd as it gives you real time feedback at least18:52
bekkslucastt: Well, the error message states that a package is missing.18:52
SchrodingersScatBluewolf: did you see this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1384398/usr-bin-perl-bad-interpreter-text-file-busy ; do you have the file open somewhere?18:52
daftykinsBluewolf: i have no way of knowing. by using google with your error i found: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?334533-Can-t-install-Initial-Setup-Failed18:52
lucasttbekks, http://pastebin.com/scuCAwEw18:52
hpprinter100windows 8.1 it is :)18:53
lucasttthe last time i installed ia32-libs it broke my theme engine18:53
mamece2GTRsdk: cp home will not copy my system configuration or program's version, right?18:53
sysop_hosti've experienced issues with ia32-libs and nvidia cards18:53
GTRsdkmamece2: if you want to copy everything, use dd or copy from /18:53
Bluewolfdaftykins: Me too.18:53
Vivekanandadaftykins: all I have done is to import the vnp client.ovpn file into the vpn and started it. Did I need to set up more things manually ? if so I am stuck. What do I need to do to get this to work ?18:53
GeoMy dovecot server is giving bouncebacks since my upgrade to 12.04... "no such domain" . Where/how should I start troubleshooting this?18:54
lucastti don't have a nvidia card, all i have is an intel onboard card18:54
bekkslucastt: Install the missing package ;)18:54
lucasttwhich one?18:54
daftykinsVivekananda: disable using DNS on the remote system, disable using the remote system as the default gateway and to read up on how VPNs work more so you can find out what's going wrong too :)18:54
daftykins!vpn | Vivekananda18:54
ubottuVivekananda: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN18:54
bekkslucastt: The missing package from the latest pastebin18:54
lucastt...archs:i386?18:54
bekkslucastt: Yes.18:54
lucasttok18:54
ilhamithis vim editor is pretty advanced. It is not as I expected :D I need some GUI editor.. Are there any good ones?18:55
Vivekanandadafy okay18:55
BluewolfSchrodingersScat: Good to see you, No I don't have it open anywhere as it is not running as it should. Its freezing up gedit?18:55
lucasttbekks, same error18:55
bekkslucastt: Impossible, the error will have changed :)18:55
SchrodingersScatBluewolf: sorry, i was way late, seems your past that problem.18:55
lucastthttp://pastebin.com/yc3nyWXH18:55
bekkslucastt: So a third missing package is mentioned ;)18:56
BluewolfSchrodingersScat: Indeed, how ever I feel something could have happened to the download?18:56
lucasttit's not18:56
lucasttit's literally the same message18:56
bekkslucastt: So install the missing package missing in line 12.18:57
lucasttif you open side by side both links,all that changes is the command18:57
lucasttit says it's not going to be installed18:57
bekkslucastt: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 gtk2-engines-murrine:i38618:57
lucasttgosh, i have so many issues with my distro18:57
lucasttbekks, i think that will break my distro18:58
MonkeyDustlucastt  that's called "learning"18:58
bekkslucastt: Because...?18:58
lucasttit's elementary OS18:58
lucasttwhich has a different theme engine18:58
lucasttand if i install another theme engine18:58
MonkeyDustah, not supported here, lucastt18:58
lucastti see18:58
bekkslucastt: Well, then seek the elementary OS support please.18:58
lucastti tought i would be able to fix that on #ubuntu18:58
lucastti'm probably going to switch distros again...18:59
daftykins!elementary | lucastt18:59
ubottulucastt: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.18:59
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lucasttits support is very bad19:00
daftykinssounds about right19:00
lucasttevery time i asked there they wouldn't reply19:00
MonkeyDustlucastt  tip: use a distro with good support19:00
lucastti'm switching to ubuntu19:00
ilhamiwhat is the best terminal for Ubuntu?19:00
ilhamiI have this terminal which doesnt accept a dragged file19:00
ilhamithats pretty bad19:00
lucastti'm using elementary os because i find it very beautiful19:01
GTRsdkgnome-terminal is good19:01
lucastti guess i shouldn't have chosen just because of that19:01
daftykinslucastt: correct!19:01
lucasttnow another question19:01
lucastthow do i remove Elementary OS? lol19:02
lucasttwithout loosing my stuff19:02
lucastti have Windows 7 on dual boot19:02
GTRsdklucastt: how much do you need to backup?19:02
MonkeyDustlucastt  backup first, then install new system19:02
lucasttcan i do a "triple" boot?19:02
daftykinslucastt: us not supporting it includes how to get rid of it ;)19:02
bekkslucastt: sure.19:02
lucasttdaftykins, ok, sorry19:03
GTRsdkyou can but it adds more pain than it is worth sometimes19:03
ilhamiYeah gnome terminal is good19:03
ilhamithanks19:03
lucasttthe last time i reinstalled Elementary, i deleted its partitions19:03
lucasttwhich wasn't a happy choice19:03
lucasttbecause i also removed GRUB19:03
lucastti mean, i broke it19:04
lucasttit wouldn't open any OS19:04
GTRsdkthere's ways to fix GRUB19:04
daftykinslucastt: ok, ubuntu support questions only please. you're welcome to speak of elementary in #ubuntu-offtopic19:04
lucasttGTRsdk, yeah, i fixed it19:05
lucasttdaftykins, sorry, i stopped.19:05
Vivekanandadaftykins: that vpn info is upto 10.04 only  I have tried the steps here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient  but no good :(19:05
daftykinsVivekananda: yeah there'll be more documentation available online i'm sure19:05
GTRsdkIs the first boot after a new CPU usually slow?19:06
bekksGTRsdk: no19:06
stoo_stoowho19:06
VivekanandaI am trying to look but if you know of one that talks about network connections grounds up would be very helpful19:06
daftykinsVivekananda: no, not off hand19:07
GTRsdkbekks: weird... my boots have been very slow with this new CPU which is supposed to be faster than my old one19:07
GTRsdkthough it could be a motherboard issue too19:07
GTRsdkas I switched that too19:07
GTRsdkthough with CPU usage at 100% (compiling the kernel) it seems to be faster19:08
stoo_<stookins>  w h o ?19:09
stoo_FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF19:10
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bekksstoo_: *plonk*19:11
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DJonesstoo_: Stop that19:11
stoo_C19:11
daftykinstotally didn't see that coming19:11
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lucasttlol19:12
GTRsdkso how exactly would one switch the default CPU governor? does it have to be baked into the kernel as default?19:13
stoo_BORING19:13
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sl33k_xfce does not have the top panel with battery and wifi widget. Also add item to panel option does not contain. How would I know the status of these which runs the risk of battery running out without my attention? (in fact it did run out some time back)19:14
sl33k_does not contain these options*19:14
TomyLobouhhh, my update from 13.04 to 13.10 says it failed19:15
TomyLobokubuntu19:15
daftykinsTomyLobo: pastebin or screenshot please19:16
TomyLoboon it19:16
TomyLobohttp://ctrlv.in/33293019:16
PessimistGTRsdk: cpupower is a great userland tool to change cpu governor19:16
Pessimista set of tools*19:17
GTRsdkPessimist: does that activate the governor as soon as the system begins loading, or is it later on the boot?19:18
GTRsdkI think I'll play it safe with baking a kernel with just performance mode lol19:18
TomyLobodaftykins apt-term.log indicates that upgrading squid failed... i want to uninstall that after the update anyway19:18
GTRsdkmy CPU is efficient enough... no need to save more watts19:18
TomyLobothat message is really scary though. is everything else ok if that's the only thing listed at the end?19:19
TomyLobowhat does that message really mean?19:19
GeoCan anyone help me troubleshoot this error? May 17 15:16:31 leafblower postfix/smtpd[29373]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[xx.xx.xx.xx]: 450 4.1.8 <george.vo@alum.rpi.edu>: Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from=<****@meh.edu> to=<geoder@foo.info> proto=ESMTP helo=<bzsmtp01vmoc.bla.com>19:19
GeoNo mail is getting through to my IMAP server19:19
daftykinsTomyLobo: i would continue doing this from the terminal to find out what state things are in, has that closed yet?19:19
Decstasygeo ****@meh.edu this is not a valid address19:20
sl33k_Could you recommend another desktop environment preferably beneath 100 MB but has all items in the top panel?19:20
mamece2I guesss im gonna find out the photorec results in 8 hours19:20
sl33k_I have xfce. However I find some items in panel are missing19:21
Beldarsl33k_, You want a like gnome 2 environment right?19:21
TomyLobodaftykins nope, the dialog is still open19:21
wols_is Wubi still part of official Ubuntu ISOs?19:21
Beldarno19:21
wols_thanks19:21
daftykinsTomyLobo: just hit close, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install" and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com please19:22
MonkeyDustthe word "wubi" refuses to die19:22
sl33k_Beldar: Yup.19:22
GeoDecstasy: well obviously :P I censored it19:22
sl33k_And which half as nice.19:22
sl33k_looks*19:22
Beldarsl33k_, There is the fallback, the pseudo gnome 2 by gnome 3.19:23
daftykinswols_: it should not ever be used anymore19:23
TomyLobodaftykins the dialog says it's going to run dpkg-configure -a if i close it19:23
Beldar!fallback19:23
OerHekssl33k_, why not add the things you are missing ?19:23
sl33k_Beldar: out of the box?19:23
daftykinsTomyLobo: yep might as well let it do its' thing19:23
Beldarsl33k_, Out of what box?19:23
DecstasyGeo: okay. Some ppl here do strange things :) You might have a dns problem. Check the url for a valid mx entry with dig.19:24
GeoI can ping that hostname fine19:24
Geoso I know it can be resolved19:24
sl33k_OerHeks: If I do Add Items in context menu of the panel, I couldnt find any19:24
wols_daftykins: someone asked about a side by side installation besides windows 7 for ubuntu in another forum. SO I wanted to make sure this wasn't wubi he was referring to. I told him to resize his windows partition to make some room19:24
Geothis started happening after upgrading from 10.04 to 12.0419:24
DecstasyGeo but there must be a dns mx entry19:24
Beldarsl33k_, Do some research and stop having this channel hold your hand!!!19:24
TomyLobodaftykins what do you think about uninstalling the failed squid packaged first?19:24
Geofor the sending IP, correct?19:24
TomyLobopackages*19:25
Geoor the receiving IP19:25
TomyLoboi want to get rid of them anyway19:25
bekksGeo: both19:25
Beldarthis channel should be #ubuntu-enabling19:25
daftykinswols_: ah i see19:25
sl33k_Beldar: see my previous message to OerHeks19:25
Decstasygeo for meh.edu19:25
daftykinsTomyLobo: well you'll need to wait until APT and dpkg are happy first19:25
TomyLoboi think that'll make them happy :)19:25
OerHekssl33k_, see http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/add-new-items as xfce is a little different than xubuntu19:26
DecstasyGeo it is rejected because the recieving server cannot validate youre address19:26
TomyLobooww, aptitude lists a shitton of packages as autoremoved19:26
GeoI own the receiving server, Im' not getting any emails to it19:26
GeoAnd they're coming from places like gmail, yahoo, etc19:26
TomyLobowell, marked for autoremoval19:26
GeoMX records exist for all19:26
Geoits 100% failing19:27
TomyLobowhat the heck19:27
TomyLoboi installed some of those packages19:27
TomyLoboxsel, for instance19:27
daftykinsTomyLobo: please try and keep the general chatter to a minimum and focus on questions and answers only, plus stop pressing enter so much :P19:27
DecstasyGeo please give me the address youre trying to send a message. I will try it with mine (from my own server)19:28
TomyLoboyeah sorry, i'm just a bit disturbed about the upgrade uninstalling packages i manually installed19:28
Someboba2Does anyone know if it's possible to automatically start three terminal sessions, stacked on the left hand side of  a wide screen display?19:28
daftykinsTomyLobo: i hope you backed up.19:28
TomyLoboor rather, marking them as automatically installed19:28
TomyLoboyes, but i dont want to use that :/19:28
dw1sl33k_: gnome-session-flashback <319:28
GeoDecstasy: you'd get an email back with delayed delivery error message: Diagnostic-Code: smtp;450 4.1.8 <bla@gmail.com>: Sender address rejected: Domain not found19:29
Geobut thank you19:29
Geohowever19:29
Geodoing a dig on my machine returns A records, but I dont' see MX records listed19:29
Geodig gmail.com all19:29
GeoShouldn't that display MX records as well?19:29
sl33k_dw1: :)19:30
Geonm, dig gmail.com mx shows them19:30
TomyLobook next dialog is less scary "update complete but there were errors during the upgrade process"19:30
dw1sl33k_: http://i.imgur.com/MyXz4hq.png look them nice icons :P19:30
Decstasytry dig domain.com MX19:30
wols_Geo: "all" is not a proper option19:30
sl33k_OerHeks: ok I found Audio mixer. But could not locate battery widget19:31
Geoah ha!19:33
sl33k_dw1: that DE is definitely a treat for the eyes19:33
Geo/var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf is empty19:34
Geoobviously.19:34
OerHekssl33k_, maybe you want these widgets http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/xfce4-goodies if not installed already19:34
DecstasyGeo as i sait DNS problem :D19:34
Geonah19:34
Geopostfix!19:34
GeoI'm guessing the upgrade gave me a new postfix that decides to chroot /var/spool/postfix19:34
DecstasyGeo Nope postfix uses DNS ;)19:34
Geob/c /etc/resolv.conf is fine19:34
DecstasyGeo anyways. it was a pleasure to help you :)19:35
Geocan anyone confirm that? What the difference between 10.04 and 12.04 postfix is, and why resolv.conf got blanked after an upgrade?19:36
DecstasyGeo should be in a mail archive... somewhere... out there...19:37
Geoheh19:37
Geowell, now dovecot is saying it is having issues19:38
Geothis is why i hate upgrading19:38
bekksGeo: Next update will take place in 5 years ;)19:38
TomyLobodaftykins the update also said it's going to remove kdm. any idea why?19:39
TomyLobothis is kubuntu, btw19:39
Geodovecot didnt seem to update any config files in the upgrade19:39
daftykinsTomyLobo: heh, sounds pretty nasty. however, where are you reading this?19:40
DecstasyI prefer to get a output of installed packages and export my configs and homefolder. Then i do a fresh install and import everything. Its better than doing a upgrade - i dont thrust that19:40
sl33k_OerHeks: That should work. Thanks!19:40
sl33k_It's a confirmed bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/130246219:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1302462 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "network icon disappeared in xubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:40
TomyLobodaftykins well it *is* gone19:40
daftykinsTomyLobo: have you finished with these programs and returned to a terminal yet?19:41
TomyLobodaftykins was it demoted from being the default display manager, maybe ?19:41
TomyLobodaftykins i fixed the package state with aptitude now19:42
daftykinsright but at no point have you run the commands i asked for :)19:42
TomyLobowell i ran the aptitude equivalent of those, minus a few packages i really didnt want it to uninstall, plus uninstalling squid19:43
TomyLoboran through nicely, no errors, no warnings or anything19:43
sl33k_Just out of curiosity what this workaround does that is written there: ("""As a workaround, put "INDICATOR_ALLOW_NO_WATCHERS=yes" in /etc/environment and reboot""")19:43
daftykinsTomyLobo: so what does "cat /etc/issue" report?19:44
TomyLobo13.1019:44
daftykinsTomyLobo: is that what you were on or what you are upgrading to? :)19:45
q_pI'm using ubuntu 12.10 64bits http://paste.ubuntu.com/7479954/19:45
GTRsdkq_p: sadly 12.10 is no longer supported19:45
q_pGTRsdk: which one is supporte?19:46
GTRsdkq_p: 12.04, 13.10, and 14.0419:46
ahelHi back. Memtest from HD no errors, from USB key there are tons. Ideas?19:47
bekksahel: corrupted usb19:48
ahelSo it's a bad idea installing new is from that bastard,I guess19:48
daftykinslanguage.19:49
ahel/s/is/os19:49
ahel/s/bastard/corruption carrier19:49
blindI use an apt repository that requires specific ssl certs. I have the certs, I can use them in a curl command and hit the repository, and I've created an apt.conf.d file that says to use these certs, but it doesn't seem like apt-get is doing it - i get gnutls errors during an apt-get update complaining it can't hit that repo19:50
blindwhat might i be missing? i have the proper packages (apt-transport-https)19:50
Geois anyone familiar enough with dovecot over the years to tell me- upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, there were significant changes to dovecot that a 10.04 config no longer works. I inserted a current dovecot.conf; but now there are may other files that have errors in them ( /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf for instance). Do I need to run through all these files, or are they still needed?19:51
MonkeyDustGeo  in #ubuntu-server perhaps19:51
TomyLobodaftykins i was upgrading from 13.0419:53
daftykinsTomyLobo: check /etc/apt/sources.list refers to saucy and not raring, then do a full "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed19:54
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qin_What would be most effective multiboot usb, do not care too much about presistence, but need smooth way of changing iso's on usb? vbox was recently dismissed as good method.19:57
MonkeyDustqin_  MultiSystem19:58
MonkeyDustqin_  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/19:59
qin_MonkeyDust: You mean http://sourceforge.net/projects/multisystem/ ?19:59
MonkeyDustqin_  yes, same name, same pupose, so i guess it's the same19:59
MonkeyDustpurpose*20:00
qin_MonkeyDust: Sweet, let's give it a go, later ;)20:00
Geofor anyone who cares, cmusieve was renamed to sieve in 12.0420:00
Geothat was the issue20:00
Geodear freakin lord that took forever20:01
MonkeyDustGeo  think positive: you found it yourself, best way to learn20:01
sl33k_Does downloading a package requires GPG ?20:08
bekksno20:08
aaronno sl33k_20:08
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MonkeyDustsl33k_  what makes you ask that question?20:09
Aaronwhen you do apt-get update if is complaining about a gpg key then yeah you have to add it20:09
sl33k_Maybe I saw something along the lines of GPG when installing a package20:11
Aaroncheck the message sl33k_20:11
Aaronit might be crucial20:11
TomyLobodaftykins update updates from saucy, dist-upgrade has nothing to do, i manually removed kubuntu-desktop a while ago in order to be able to get rid of a few resource hogs20:12
daftykinsTomyLobo: but that means there's nothing keeping your KDE setup there...20:12
zelunhi everyone20:13
drbyt3hi20:13
TomyLobodaftykins i set them to manually installed20:13
sl33k_Aaron: Yes. But I am stuck at this window in terminal after installing mailutils asking Please select the mail server configuration type that best meets your20:13
sl33k_  │ needs.20:13
sl33k_echo "this is the body" | mail -s "this is the subject" "to@address"20:13
TomyLoboso there's that keeping them there :)20:13
TomyLobobut i'll reinstall it. looks like those resource hogs went to "recommends"20:13
daftykinsTomyLobo: installing kubuntu-desktop^ with the circumflex should make sure any dependancies are on, then you'd be in a safer situation to try a reboot and see if you still have a system20:15
sl33k_sorry for the improper formatting20:15
TomyLobokubuntu-desktop recommends plasma-widget-facebook... what the heck20:17
TomyLobodaftykins i already rebooted and i still do have a system :)20:17
daftykinsTomyLobo: ah, nothing to worry about then20:17
infernalHey! I'm trying to get steam running on 14.04 but it doesn't seem to run20:18
daftykinsmore detail please20:19
Aaroninfernal: any errors?20:19
MonkeyDustinfernal  there's also the channel #ubuntu-steam20:19
infernalI allready asked the question there so far no response so i thought gonna try here :)20:19
infernalSo I'm running AMD A6-6400K APU with there driver20:20
Aaroninfernal: ask in #ubuntu-steam20:20
SchrodingersScatinfernal: you didn't post a question..20:20
TomyLobodaftykins my original plan was to update to 14.04 right away20:20
infernalHow to fix this? http://pastebin.com/KYRrf0Es20:21
TomyLobonot sure if i want to do that now after this one didnt go as smooth as expected20:21
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squaregoldfishI'm getting a grub error on boot 'hd0 out of disk', and from a Live CD 'sudo fdisk -l' gives no output. Is my hard drive dead, or can it still be revived?20:21
StuffUBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY 20:21
Aaronlol20:21
bekksStuff: And you are on ignore.20:21
TomyLoboStuff go use mint then20:21
Aaronomg20:21
daftykinsTomyLobo: yeah you have to do that in hops20:21
daftykinsTomyLobo: only LTS to LTS go direct20:21
TomyLobodaftykins yeah i meant to do it in hops20:22
* squaregoldfish asks again in case I got hidden by the moron:20:23
Matts4dUBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGG20:23
Matts4dUBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGG20:23
Aaronomg20:23
qin_!op20:23
TomyLoboMatts4d you shouldnt chat as root20:23
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Matts4dUBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGGY DISTRO FOR DUMBASS GUYS UBUNTU SUCKS, IS A BUGG20:23
squaregoldfishI'm getting a grub error on boot 'hd0 out of disk', and from a Live CD 'sudo fdisk -l' gives no output. Is my hard drive dead, or can it still be revived?20:23
MonkeyDustthe children are awake20:23
frisany idea why runnin do-release-upgrade on a 13.04 install, wouldnt let me go to 14.04, i had to go to 13.10 then 14.0420:24
blindare there any specific packages besides apt-transport-https that a machine would need in order to get aptitude to pull from https sites using specified keys (specified in an apt.conf.d file and I've tried using the -o options on the command itself.)20:24
daftykinsfris: that's how ubuntu is designed to upgrade.20:25
infernalSo the error dump  says steam can't connect to X, why would that be?20:25
frisdaftykins ahh thought you can go from lts to lts20:25
daftykinsinfernal: what are you running?20:25
daftykinsfris: correct, 13.04 was never LTS20:25
frisah ok20:25
friswas wondering why no lts was in the tagline20:26
daftykinsraring died after 6 months, yep20:26
infernaldaftykins, 14.0420:26
frismy other 2 machines i did a 12.04 to 14.04 never did a 13 was curious20:26
marcosÌû20:27
daftykinsinfernal: what graphics hardware + driver? what happens if you run 'steam' in a terminal? (don't paste, use paste.ubuntu.com)20:28
jeronimohello20:28
daftykinshi20:29
jeronimou speak french ?20:29
MonkeyDust!fr20:29
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.20:30
lazarus_is there any way to pipe a request for sudo password through zenity20:31
infernalRichland [Radeon HD 8470D] with the propriatary driver, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7480169/20:32
blindlazarus_: ask for pass with zenity, pass that password as stdin to sudo -S20:33
OerHekslazarus_, see this post and 1st answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/314395/proper-way-to-let-user-enter-password-for-a-bash-script-using-only-the-gui-with20:33
b1001Hello guys. What gnomeshell theme is used in these screenshots. I figured out how to switch terminal to dark, but not filemanager etc.. http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/how-to-install-gnome-312-in-ubuntu.html20:35
blindb1001: not sure what that theme is, but have you been to gnome-look.org ?20:35
pcoderHi, I am not able to login to my ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, without having my internet connection. Any ideas?20:36
b1001Yeah.. Cant really find anything.20:36
xanguab1001: numix20:37
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b1001xangua: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DNumix?content=16476220:38
b1001That one20:38
b1001?20:38
xanguahttp://numixproject.org/20:39
blindare there any specific packages besides apt-transport-https that a machine would need in order to get aptitude to pull from https sites using specified keys (specified in an apt.conf.d file and I've tried using the -o options on the command itself.)20:41
smirempI could go there and look but maybe I can save some time: What is the irc.ubuntu.com network? That redirects here?20:44
MonkeyDustblind  I had never heard of it, but maybe this is useful http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/apt-transport-https20:45
blindyeah i already have that installed :\20:46
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HazzardHello20:49
daftykinshi.20:51
HazzardAfter updating my headless server to 14.04, it no longer properly boots. The first thing I noticed is that GRUB no longer automatically chooses the load ubuntu. When I select it, it begins to boot, but crashes and then the computer restarts and I end up back at the GRUB screen, but the keyboard no longer works. Any help is appreciated20:52
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daftykinsHazzard: tried the usual? memtest, an older kernel...20:53
hammerlguten Abend :)20:53
huntubuntu fell asleep while i was watching a youtube video20:53
huntso i pressed a button to wake it up20:53
huntand now i can moev my mouse, see a freeze frame of the youtube video, but cant do anything esle20:54
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huntits stillplaying the sound of the video as though the video were playing, but im not getting any new frames20:54
TomyLoboa friend has a broken package state. i want to help with the diagnosis and the easiest way i know to do that is aptitude. problem is: that's not installed by default anymore for whatever reason20:54
TomyLobohow can i install aptitude without messing with the other packages?20:55
hunti dont know what to do20:55
bekksTomyLobo: you cant20:55
huntif i have to restart? id rather not, there were some things i wasnt finished with running20:55
smiremphunt, kill the video player20:55
hunthow thouhg? i cant open any windows20:55
smiremphunt, does ctrl+alt+t work?20:56
TomyLobobekks really? no override switches or anything?20:56
bekksTomyLobo: No.20:56
huntno it doesnt20:56
huntsmiremp20:56
HazzardHmm, may be a hardware issue20:56
smiremphunt, what about another login? i think its ctrl+alt+f120:57
huntyea ok thats good, can i kill processes on my main login through this one?20:57
smiremphunt, Yes, ps aux then kill -9 if you are sudoer20:57
smiremphunt, grep the process list, or use htop20:58
huntok cool i got it20:58
huntthanks smiremp20:58
qin_TomyLobo: sudo apt-get install -f; should help?20:58
TomyLoboqin_ not likely20:58
huntawesome that ill get to use alternate shells to fix frzen programs now20:58
smiremphunt, go through the wiki and setup or disable suspend IMO20:58
huntinstead of finaegling with the process manager20:58
GOTINIAHi... My question is little stupid /lame/ Is it possible to hack an account in Facebook with Linux distribution like Ubuntu. There are thousonds of videos in Youtube.  Just for information :)20:59
huntsmiremp: which wiki?20:59
smiremphunt, ubuntu's one20:59
huntGotinia: no20:59
huntsmiremp: isnt it rather large?20:59
qin_TomyLobo: sudo dpkg --configure -a; and then apt-get20:59
smirempGOTINIA, You can use any major OS for that20:59
huntGotinia: it doesnt really matter what os you use20:59
smiremphunt, I dont understand your question. I was suggesting fixing or disabling sleep on your machine21:00
daftykinsGOTINIA: that is an inappropriate question for here, please go elsewhere.21:00
Hazzardlol21:00
TomyLoboqin_ what if they fail configuring?21:00
huntsmiremp: oh sorry i misunderstood you21:00
TomyLobolike, all the time21:00
GOTINIAI see. My girlfrined was hacked and ask me for hele before 1 week. So she dont have any key logger and use only her pc. May be they trace her router.21:00
daftykinsTomyLobo: unless they come here themselves we can't help, we don't do proxy assistance21:00
GOTINIAdaftykins: ok.. I just asked for possibility not to do that :) Tnx21:01
TomyLobowell i can see what's wrong and fix it if i can install aptitude21:01
smirempGOTINIA, 99% it's probab;y password re-use. That's usually how it's done21:01
daftykinsTomyLobo: right, but we're not here to help you to help others :) we need direct input21:02
smirempTomyLobo, I think what he means is that's much harder to fix without direct info from the end user or the end user's actual system21:04
sam_I use ubuntu 12.04 move to other pane is disabled when I right click on a icon. how do I enable it?21:04
TomyLobosure, but i'm not asking for a fix, but for a way to install aptitude ignoring broken packages21:05
daftykinssmiremp: i'm speaking English so i think i'm ok without an interpreter thanks ;)21:05
daftykinsTomyLobo: you've been told you can't, you're asking to avoid a paradoxical situation21:05
xanguasam_: pane¿ move what¿ can you be more clear¿21:05
qin_TomyLobo: well, yuo would need to try to look into /var/lib/dpkg/status and try autoremove; autoclean; build-dep with apt-get and reconfigure, if it is ppa package just purge whole repository.21:05
smirempdaftykins, Your end user seems to be having trouble understanding you, however :-)21:05
MonkeyDustxangua  12.04 had the double panel option in nautilus21:06
daftykinssmiremp: no, drop it now please.21:06
xanguasam_: if you want a double panel in the file browser you can install nemo, a for of nautolus before it being stripped down http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/install-nemo-with-unity-patches-and.html21:07
sam_xangua: like when you right click on a icon you have copy to and move to in the list. the options for move to is Desktop, Home, and other pane. I what to know how to enable other pane, right now its grey21:07
xanguaa fork*21:07
smirempsam_, Do you have the other panes enabled?21:09
sam_smiremp: no I don't have it enabled. how do I enable it???21:09
smirempsam_, Wait, I realise I don't actually understand your question. Please ignore me.21:10
sam_smiremp: right click on an icon you have the option to to (move to) & (copy to) in move to you have these(Desktop,Home, and other pane) but other pane doesn't work for me its grey21:12
enavhello, i cant find the compiz setting manager for ubuntu  14.0421:12
smirempsam_, I don't have other pane there, I'm using Nautilus in Trusty. I guess they removed that at some point. If you can't get it fixed, you could try a different file manager as has already been suggested.21:14
sam_smiremp: I also tried Trusty and I was happy with it until I tried to run a local swf file. trusty didn't support that so I fresh installed 12.0421:15
henniesolidworks21:16
fellayaboyhey my ethernet is not working it says device not managed.  my wifi works however21:17
fellayaboyany help?21:17
xangua!info compizconfig-settings-manager | enav21:17
ubottuenav: compizconfig-settings-manager (source: compiz): Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.9.11+14.04.20140423-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 560 kB, installed size 4498 kB21:17
smirempsam_, Locally saved Flash? That *should* work in the browser if you load the flash plugin, you can open a flash file from the file system from there. One thing to be aware of, only google chrome (not chromium) has the most updated flash player for desktop linux21:18
qin_Is it me or Vimeo do not recognise existence of Linux?21:19
smiremp(Life will be much easier once Flash dies)21:19
smirempqin_, I can play vimeo, what is the error/problem?21:19
sam_smiremp: I tried with all the browsers that work in linux. chrome.chromium.firefox.opera. none of them worked for me. but I didn't install a fresh 14.04 I upgraded 12.04 to trusty maybe thats why21:20
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smirempsam_, Was it DRM protected file?21:21
qin_smiremp: oups, I suspect me 12.04 has some dust on apt, let me update and see...21:21
sam_smiremp: I'm not sure. there you can download the file in this page  http://autoevony.jimdo.com/21:22
sam_smiremp: there is a free version ofi t21:22
smirempqin_, I am using google chrome on Trusty - firefox has some trouble with some of the links on vimeo ("snap: this can't be played on your setup")21:22
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sam_smiremp: so tell me if it worked for you. cause I do like to to install 14.04 again it looks good21:26
lambdaais possible to run ubuntu on macbook pro?21:28
lambdaadriver works well?21:28
lambdaano glitchy?21:28
daftykinslambdaa: it is possible yes, mac ISOs exist for download. for how well it works, you'd have to look online for your specific model however21:30
lambdaaokay very thanks21:30
smiremphrm i fixed his game but he left21:34
MonkeyDustbrb21:35
smirempThat's slightly annoying.21:36
daftykinssmiremp: welcome to giving support ;)21:36
smirempdaftykins, Truth be told I only did it to learn how the thing worked. However it would be nice to show off to the user. :-)21:36
BartDudeI need some help again, guys. Which one of these do I choose? https://i.imgur.com/mE79MP0.png21:37
rek!ot21:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:38
daftykinsBartDude: top21:38
BartDudedaftykins: 100% sure?21:38
daftykinsBartDude: you can always change, you won't be married to it21:38
BartDudedaftykins: Thanks. :)21:38
daftykinsBartDude: but yes a GTX 660 would benefit from being on the latest21:38
BartDudedaftykins: Trying it now!21:39
BartDudedaftykins: Do you know what happens to my old DE when I replace it with a new one?21:40
daftykinsBartDude: the packages are still installed, but you can switch between by changing session type on the login screen, as far as i understand it21:41
BartDudedaftykins: Is there a way to COMPLETELY remove my previous DE after installing a new one?21:41
mirakhello21:41
jay_what software can list the name of deleted but recoverable files?21:41
mirakhow do you change the versions of the propriétary graphic drivers from a command line ?21:41
daftykinsBartDude: you wouldn't do it in that order and it wouldn't be without risk21:41
daftykinsmirak: by installing the appropriate package21:42
BartDudedaftykins: I see. :(21:42
BartDudedaftykins: Do you know of any good Web Sites that lists all known DE, WM, and FM?21:42
smirempBartDude, Just checking which DEs you mean: there are some bad combinations like Gnome 3.12 will break Unity right now until they fix that.21:42
daftykinsBartDude: no21:42
BartDudesmiremp: :O21:43
BartDudedaftykins: Okay.21:43
BartDudesmiremp: I probably won't touch anything then.21:43
smirempsmiremp, There are some known working ones in the Ubuntu repos: eg lubuntu, xubuntu21:43
smirempsmiremp, Pedants would say they aren't DEs ... but they wil replace the DE :-)21:44
smirempBartDude, My last 2 are meant for you21:44
BartDudesmiremp: Haha! I understood that.21:44
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BartDudeShould I always try to use the USC or find the latest packages on respective Web Site?21:45
BartDudeEveryone is telling me different things.21:45
daftykinsBartDude: packages in the USC will be kept up to date, .deb's downloaded cannot and will leave you stuck on older software21:46
smirempBartDude, If it's in the USC it is 'safer'. However there is no objectively correct answer to your question.21:46
daftykinssure there is :)21:46
BartDudeThank you.21:47
afidegnumhello, pls i want to remove all that has to do with mysql installaiton on my sever while keeping the databse21:48
afidegnumwhat's the command to use?21:48
afidegnumI did apt-get remove mysql but nothig changed21:48
daftykinsafidegnum: "dpkg -l | grep sql" will show you what's installed with 'sql' in the name21:49
smirempafidegnum, Please backup the database before you continue21:49
daftykinsafidegnum: backup as smiremp suggests then you can remove those packages21:49
smirempafidegnum, copying the files might not be sufficient to back it up, in some configurations21:49
afidegnumok21:50
* ki7rw saw on adobe's website that they're dropping linux flashplayer support21:52
smirempki7rw, They dropped it years ago. However Google took it over and bundle a proprietary flash player in Chrome21:52
ki7rwso, i have to  use chrome instead of firefox?21:53
smirempki7rw, Firefox has 11.2 flash player. Chrome has 13.something. Some sites work on Firefox. You can get the current version into chromium with a hack21:53
k1lki7rw: use the pepperflash plugin21:53
k1l!info pepperflash-plugin21:54
ubottuPackage pepperflash-plugin does not exist in trusty21:54
ki7rwok21:54
k1l!info pepperflash-plugin-nonfree21:54
ubottuPackage pepperflash-plugin-nonfree does not exist in trusty21:54
smirempYea that pepperflash will get you the current one in Chromium21:54
Aaronis call flashplugin-nonfree21:54
k1l!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree21:54
ubottupepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)21:54
k1lthat one, yes :)21:54
smiremppepper wont work in firefox21:54
Aaronthere you go;21:54
John_DonnaHello21:54
Aaronhello21:55
k1lsmiremp: it does since 14.0421:55
mirakdaftykins, dumb21:55
John_DonnaCan someone help me real quick, I have an emergency. My customer is about to have a photoshoot and I am having issues with udev usb21:55
smirempk1l, really? That's news to me. I'll check it out/21:55
John_Donnaif I connect a camera via usb. Then disconnect the camera(it comes untethered) then reconnect it on the same port21:55
John_Donnait wont tether21:55
John_DonnaBUT21:55
John_Donnaif I connect it to a different USB it works fine21:55
John_Donnaany ideas?21:55
AaronJohn_Donna: restart udev with services udev restart21:56
John_DonnaBrilliant :) any idea why it wont reconnect on disconnect?21:56
John_Donnaubuntu 12.04, problem just showed up21:56
John_DonnaI recently updated the kernel21:56
Aaronjust restart udev and you'll be fine21:57
fellayaboyi have an atheros AR8132 ethernet (hardwire) in my laptop21:57
John_Donnakk ill give that a try21:57
John_DonnaThank you so much Aaron you are a lifesaver21:57
Aaronalright;21:57
Aaronno problem21:57
smirempk1l, Are you sure pepper works with firefox now?21:57
fellayaboyi have an atheros AR8132 ethernet (hardwire) in my laptop and it networm manager doesnt seem to manage it.. if i use ifup and ifdown eth0 it works but i want network manager to use it so that i can bridge my wireless to eth0  can someone help me21:58
kev999hi - can someone tell me how to resolve libJPEG Version unknown on php5-gd on 12.04lts .... please!21:58
BartDudesmiremp: daftykins: Thanks for the help. I need to go now.21:58
BartDudeBye.21:58
zykotick9fellayaboy: is there ANY configuration for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces?  if so, that's what is preventing N-M from managing it.21:58
fellayaboylet me see21:59
mirakhow can i choose the nvidia driver from comand line ? my X is broken21:59
John_DonnaAaron I had to use udev stop21:59
John_Donnathen udev start21:59
John_Donnabut it worked21:59
Aaronokay21:59
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Aaronmirak: you have to edit the xorg.conf21:59
fellayaboyzykotick9, there is an auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet manual...which came default ..this is a fresh install and i never modified /etc/network/interfaces22:00
mirakAaron sorry i meant the driver version22:00
John_DonnaAaron do you think it has anything to do with me recently using the proprietary nvidia drivers?22:00
Aaron!tell mirak about nvidia22:00
ubottumirak, please see my private message22:00
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zykotick9fellayaboy: that's what's preventing N-M from managing it...22:00
fellayaboyshould i delete both auto eth0 and iface.....22:00
AaronJohn_Donna: not really;22:00
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John_Donnakk ty aaron we are off to the shoot. youre a god ;) ttyl22:01
zykotick9fellayaboy: iface for sure, auto - i'm not 100% sure on, but i'd guess yes.22:01
fellayaboyok let me comment out that line and see22:01
zykotick9fellayaboy: comment both perhaps22:01
fellayaboyok22:01
ChaosTheoryHi all.22:01
mirakAaron jockey-text is not available22:01
mirakI can't install it22:01
k1lsmiremp: thought it would work. but i cant invistigate that right now, sorry22:01
Aaronmirak: try searching for it;22:01
fellayaboyzykotick9, gonna reboot brb22:01
kev999Any experts avail to answer my earlier question ^^ thanks22:02
mirakAaron I already di that22:02
mirakdid22:02
Aaronmirak:  any luck?22:02
Aaronyou can always get them directly the drivers from nvidia22:02
mirakAaron I just need to know how how the version is selected22:03
mirakis it with alternatives ?22:03
Aarondepending on kernels you have;22:03
kev999mirak can you remap keyboard keys temporarily?22:04
mirak?22:04
kev999to get the broken x22:04
ChaosTheorySo I'm having some issues with 14.04 after an recent update of either compiz/compizconfig settings manager/xserver-xorg-video-ati/radeon. The issue is the UI seems sluggish, it was quite snappy before the update22:04
mirakkev999, what ?22:04
zykotick9Aaron: debian's <why nvidia installer sucks> 18:03 <dpkg> nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted.  Let's say tomorrow Xorg is updated -- the nvidia driver will break.  If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break Xorg badly.  nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management.22:04
kev999ignore if I have misunderstood22:05
Aaronauch22:05
Aaronouch22:05
OerHeksmirak, jockey-text is the old way, see here the new way > http://askubuntu.com/a/946522:06
* smiremp wonders how much of that is caused by xorg getting a bit long in the tooth22:06
OerHekssudo ubuntu-drivers list22:06
mirakOerHeks, thanks, but I already found this page, and I don't see how it can be used to select the version22:07
HazzardMy booting problems are either because of plymouth-upstart-bridge or alocating swap22:07
Hazzardor maybe something else22:07
imyerrowhey guys how do i map a name to that of an executable or command?  for instance, in the terminal, if i enter "hello" and press enter, it runs a program located at /somdirectory/to_some_program22:07
OerHeksmirak autoinstall takes the recommended version of the driverpackage you need22:07
mirakOerHeks, yes but I want to choose22:08
smirempimyerrow, it searches your path. if you want a specific program in the current folder, use ./myprogname22:08
nwgwhat  do you mean map?22:08
mirakOerHeks, i just want to do what you can do graphically with the driver manager22:08
Aaronimyerrow: usually on /usr/bin22:08
mirakbut with a command line22:08
mirakbecause X crashes after a few minutes22:08
OerHeksmirak, then list it, and deploy the versionnumber from the list you get?22:08
nwgyou can use the which command to determine the actual program that runs.22:08
mirakOerHeks, how do you do that ???22:09
imyerrowsmiremp: but i want to be at any folder22:09
imyerrowdo i just add the path to the executable/command to the PATH environment variable?22:10
zykotick9imyerrow: fyi, ~/bin is a really handy place for "local" scripts/programs, as it's in $PATH by default.22:10
imyerrowi installed something and it isn't located in ~/bin22:10
nwgimyerrow: you could use a symbolic link to your executable.22:10
smirempimyerrow, You could do that, but /usr/local/bin is traditional22:10
zykotick9imyerrow: sidenote, if you're creating the directory for the first time, you need to log out/back22:10
mirakOerHeks, do you understand the issue ? I have more than driver installed, but how can I choose the version that X will use ?22:11
imyerrownwg: ok thanks, i think that is what i was after22:11
zykotick9smiremp: IMO /usr/local/bin, while quasi-ok, isn't as optimal as /opt with a link in ~/bin22:11
imyerrowi installed python 3 and want to use its pyvenv command to create virtual environment22:12
terraformerhey guys, quick question. can anyone tell me if it's possible to get the header bars in ubuntu 14.04?22:12
imyerrowbut i dont want to have to type the full path to pyvenv command22:12
Hazzardhmm, it fixed itself22:12
Hazzardthat's concerning ?22:12
imyerrowso basically i want to make it so that i don't have to type the full path to the command i want to execute22:13
Hazzardor not22:13
nwgterraformer:  header bars??22:13
zykotick9imyerrow: python3 isn't a "normal" program.  best of luck.22:13
smirempimyerrow, pyvenv should be in your path22:13
terraformernwg, the top tittle bars like in ubuntu gnome, I think that's what they were called22:13
imyerrowsmiremp: it is not, my OS has python 2.7 as default22:14
terraformerof the file manager22:14
imyerrowso that is why i am using virtual environment to prevent clashing of diff python versions22:14
ilhamiLinux is the best22:14
ilhamibut my PC sucks so much :D22:14
nwgterraformer: what are you trying to do?22:14
ilhamiI cannot even watch a video without lag22:14
imyerrowsmiremp: pyvenv is a python 3.4 specific program22:14
terraformernwg, I have Ubuntu 14.04 and I saw the new Iris theme and wanted to try it. But it's not looking very well applied to nautilus without the headerbars22:15
OerHeksmirak, not sure how you installed those drivers, but ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' could do the trick22:15
imyerrowso i can use symbolic link to pyvenv then?22:15
smirempimyerrow, does pyvenv-3.3 work?22:15
nwgyou can use a symbolic link...22:15
imyerrowi don't have version 3.322:15
smirempimyerrow, 34, whateve, put the version number on22:16
mirakOerHeks, I installed them normally22:16
mirakOerHeks, do you understand what choosing the driver version is about or not ?22:16
imyerrowsmiremp: pyvenv-3.4 don't work22:17
OerHeksmirak, sure, i gave you a url earlier22:17
imyerrowif i do whereis pyvenv, it gives me: /opt/python3.4.0/bin/pyvenv22:17
smirempimyerrow, add that directory to your path22:17
smirempimyerrow, how did you install python3 btw?22:18
imyerrowsmiremp: from source22:18
smirempimyerrow, Ah that would explain it.22:18
HazzardI can't get my server to boot; it hangs on "init: plymouth-upstart-bridge respawning too fast, stopped" or when it allocates swap22:18
HazzardAfter updating to 1422:19
jcorganhow do i clear the "read only" flag on a USB flash drive?  its doesn't have a switch--it looks like it is some sort of protective mechanism that goes into effect if there are problems with the drive.22:19
mirakOerHeks, yes but the url doesn't provide the mean to do that22:19
smirempjcorgan, fsck22:19
nwgjcorgan: pour beer on it.22:19
smirempjcorgan, If as you say the drive is broken, run fsck22:20
OerHeksmirak i know, ubuntu-drivers --help is some use but it doesn't seem to explain everything22:20
jcorgansmiremp: it is more low level than that; in dmesg it shows the drive switches to read-only mode right after insertion, fsck/fdisk/gparted are unable to write to it22:20
smirempimyerrow, On a default 14.04 install, i have pyvenv-3.4 in the path and it just works22:21
imyerrowsmiremp: im on elementary OS22:21
OerHeksmirak, autoinstall seems the short route to a working system, from there you can try other drivers if you like to test22:22
smirempimyerrow, That distro isn't really supported here. But if you add that folder to your path, it will run22:23
qin_imyerrow: Why wouldn't use elementary support?22:23
mirakOerHeks, the system works,22:23
jcorgangoogle shows references to a low-level formatter program that would fix this, but they are all windows apps22:23
mirakOerHeks, but X crashes22:23
imyerroweOS uses older version of ubuntu22:23
mirakOerHeks, and the default driver crashes22:23
xenoIt looks like my cloned 12.04 install is not booting well with virtualbox.22:23
ikoniaimyerrow: eOS is not supported here22:24
Pencil_Time to replace this pc.  Is there a pc that works a little better with Ubuntu than others?22:24
imyerrowok sorry, im a linux noob in general22:24
ikoniaimyerrow: if you need help with it, take it to the elementary support channels/resources please.22:24
ikoniaimyerrow: no problem22:24
mirakor if there is a way to force failsafe graphics ?22:24
xenoIt didn't pick up the nic.22:24
phuffHey there.  I'm trying to mount a firewire drive on my ubuntu machine22:27
phuffBut I don't see anything in /dev/sd* after plugging it in.22:27
phuffThe firewire drive is a mac in target disk mode22:27
ikoniaphuff: I don't think that works22:27
phuffIs there something special I need to do to tell the kernel to look for a firewire drive on that firewire port?22:27
ikoniaI thought the target disk thing was dead years ago ?22:27
phuffdead in what way? :)22:28
Pencil_Where is "elementary support"22:28
ikoniaI thought it had stopped being a feature22:28
smirempimyerrow, You may want to try #python. They can tell you exactly what you need to do to build and configure the interpreter and its toolchain22:28
ikoniaPencil_: check on their website22:28
phuffikonia: Oh, well, this is a 2009 mac, so maybe it's just because the mac is old?  The boot bits of the file system are dead, but the rest is mountable and I'd like to get some data off of it before reformatting it.22:28
imyerrowsmiremp: thanks, but i figure my question is more of an OS-related question22:28
Yeluxeno, would you mind to pastebin your "VBoxManage showvminfo <vm-name> --details" (to have a look on the interfaces)?22:29
ikoniaphuff: looks like it's still fully supported22:29
ikoniaphuff: I thought it had been removed, but it's still a feature, I'm wrong22:29
imyerrowim new to linux, so im new to how to set up environment variables and such22:29
phuffikonia: I get a /dev/fw0 device, but I tried mounting that and it says that it's not a block device.22:29
ikoniaphuff: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht166122:29
phuffWhich amkes sense.22:29
ikoniaphuff: woth checking this22:29
phuffI'm just not sure where else I would find the device in the file system.22:29
smirempimyerrow, It's easy to google how to add to your path on linux. But there is some crossover with python since a sysadmin might not know what is in the toolchain and the folder structure required for it etc. Plus most of #python uses linux,22:30
qin_imyerrow:  info coreutils 'env invocation'22:30
phuffikonia: Do you know where a firewire drive would show up in the fs/where I would see errors if I couldn't talk to it?22:30
ikoniaphuff: should just be a scsi disk, eg: /dev/sdX22:31
xenoSure Yelu.  just a minute.22:31
phuffYeah there's nothing in there.22:32
Yeluxeno, fine, take you time.22:32
* Yelu installs 14.04 plus vbox on top22:32
ikoniaphuff: check the link I've given you to make sure it's setup well22:33
phuffikona: I get this in dmesg after plugging in the firewire22:33
phuffMay 17 16:22:47 pooh kernel: [ 2038.424229] firewire_core: giving up on config rom for node id ffc122:33
phuffMay 17 16:22:47 pooh kernel: [ 2038.424237] firewire_core: phy config: card 0, new root=ffc0, gap_count=522:33
imyerrowsmiremp: sort of get what your saying, im using python at home, not professionally so not sure what you're saying about sys admins22:33
phuffIt's setup properly excepting the fact hat I'm using ubuntu as the host and not a mac machine :)22:33
phuff(no other macs with firewire ports...)22:33
ikoniaphuff: I'd need to look into that error more, but it looks like "giving up" suggests it's not configured/can't configure22:33
imyerrowi think you're assuming too much about me, im a mere mortal :-)22:33
ikoniaimyerrow: the elemetnary guys can help you22:33
phuffikonia do you know where I'd be able to find out more info about this stuff?22:34
smirempimyerrow, I am saying go to #python or elementaryOS -> or install ubuntu and you 3.4 out of the box22:34
phuffIt looks like firewire is going the way of the dodo22:34
xeno2http://pastebin.com/9h7vqLi722:34
ikoniaphuff: firewire is well supported, but I don't know enough about target disk mode and how it works22:34
xenoYelu, It's that one from xeno2.22:34
ikoniaphuff: or it's support within linux if it's a "hack"22:34
phuffI think it just presents itself as a firewire drive.22:35
Yeluxreno, xeno2, on my wayy ...22:35
xenoThank you.22:35
imyerrowok, sorry i thought my question was somewhat ubuntu related, didn't mean to be a bother22:35
ikoniaphuff: how though,22:35
ikoniaphuff: it's not magic, there is technicl stuff behind it in how it works,22:35
qin_imyerrow: to change path: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11709374/change-path-permanently-on-ubuntu22:35
smirempphuff, In consumer gear, usb is faster and more universal. I think you may be right.22:36
ikoniausb is not faster than firefire22:36
fwaokdaeverytime i use terminal and rvm i have to do /bin/bash --login before it will work properly... how can i have terminal automatically do this?22:36
phuffikonia: They're just sbp2 devices22:38
phuffBut I can't find any more error messaging than that stuff I pasted from kern.log22:38
phuffTo tell me what is going wrong.22:38
Yeluxeno, this is a vm which is linked via a bridged interface to your local lan (the chef thingie is intended to control your real machines,)?22:38
ikoniasbp2 ?22:38
phuffserial bus 222:39
ikoniaphuff: that error message is pretty useful22:39
phuffthere's a firewire_sbp2 driver, but I don't think I'm amking it that far.22:39
ikoniaphuff: however how the host mode works, would need to be researched to see how linux would handle it22:39
=== fwaokda is now known as theostack
Yeluxeno, how you defined the interface(s) in the guest machines (via /etc/network/interfaces or via network-manager)? - is this guest machine a desktop or a server?22:40
Yeluxeno, what gives "ifconfig" and ping <local-lan-ip> and ping <google.com>?22:42
cobaia_Black/help22:44
Yeluxeno,, are you runnning clones with the same MAC?22:45
phuffOk, well, thanks for the help, Ikonia22:45
phuffTalk to you guys later22:45
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=== cobaia_BR is now known as cobaia_BLACK
theodorehello all can someone help me with this? I am installing ubuntu last verion but it is stuck in a point writing "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source(i386)22:48
ikoniatheodore: sound like it's failing to load the broadcom module22:49
ikoniatheodore: tell the installer not to use propitary/3rd party software22:49
ridethespiralHelllloooo22:51
theodorewhat can i do for this?22:51
ikoniatheodore: what I said to do22:51
ridethespiralMy mouse is frozen when I boot to 14.04 live USB how can I fix this22:52
whoevertheodore: well what is this22:52
theodoreshould i start the installation from the beginning?22:52
ikoniatheodore: yes22:52
TomyLoboridethespiral is there a mouse cursor?22:52
theodorebecause ut was there where he asked me22:52
theodoreok ikonia22:52
ridethespiralTomyLobo yes22:52
theodorethanks a lot22:52
TomyLoboridethespiral does another mouse work?22:53
ridethespiralTomyLobo good question. I don't have batteries for my wireless so I'm using my laptops synaptic touchpad22:53
whoevertheodore: yes22:53
TomyLoboso it's not even a mouse :)22:54
TomyLobois there a trackpoint?22:54
ridethespiralTomyLobo I call it a mouse :)22:54
xeno2I'm sorry Yelu.  I tried to use the MAC randomizer again.  Let me look.22:54
xeno2Having trouble with this IRC client.22:54
Yeluxeno, I'd try 1. to give the vm a default "interfaces" file (lo,eth0 auto with iface dhcp), then 2. set up the eth0 with a statc i from my dhcp ip range, 3. from a terminal ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 - check with ifconfig, ping etc.22:55
ridethespiralTomyLobo like those little rubber nubbies? negatice22:55
ridethespiralNegative*22:55
Yeluxeno, sorry ... static ^ip ...22:55
TomyLoboso no other mouse to test?22:55
xeno2I show different MAC addresses for clone and original.22:55
Yeluxeno2, ok22:56
whoeverTopslack: is the mouse wireless22:56
whoeverwell ridethespiral22:56
ridethespiralTomyLobo ermmm I booted for the 50th time holding shift to see if I could pull up some recovery menu for the live USB and it works.... O.o22:56
ridethespiralDafuq lol22:56
whoeverridethespiral: well wha is your initual prob22:57
xeno2Here are reports:  http://pastie.org/918569522:57
ridethespiralTrackpad wouldn't work... After many restarts it is working lol22:57
ridethespiralGoing to try install now22:57
Yeluxeno2, in case you didn't get this: I'd try 1. to give the vm a default "interfaces" file (lo,eth0 auto with iface dhcp), then 2. set up the eth0 with a statci ip (unused) from my dhcp ip range, 3. from a terminal ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 - check with ifconfig, ping etc.22:58
whoeverridethespiral: this is a notebook P22:58
whoever?22:58
ridethespiralXD yes i m really screwing with terms aren't i ? Haha22:58
xeno2Yes Yelu, I finally just saved that to a file.   Thank you.22:59
whoeverridethespiral: what make and model22:59
ridethespiralwhoever lenovo y56022:59
whoeverridethespiral: and are you the original owner or did you get it used, and are you sure that the trackpad works22:59
ridethespiralThe first model with the nehalem i522:59
ridethespiralYes I've been using Ubuntu on it for two years23:00
ridethespiral:)23:00
whoeverridethespiral: ah, so what where you doing when it quit working23:00
ridethespiralIt works right now. We shall see if it works when install is complete23:00
ridethespiralI booted the live 14.04 usb23:01
ridethespiralWas on 12.0423:01
whoeverridethespiral: oh it will, also , if you do a shutdown and it reboots on you, you then need to get laptop-tools23:01
whoeverare you installing 1223:02
ridethespiralI'm trying to install 14.04 whoever. Couldn't get the live USB to boot without issue until just now lol23:03
ridethespiral:)23:03
whoeverridethespiral:  I have always had live used issues of some sort so I just strick with the tried and true baking methods :-).... damn now i want brownies23:04
ridethespiralWhat do you mean baking methods? :P23:04
ridethespiralCDs?23:05
whoeverboth23:05
xeno2Yelu:  #ubuntu-server23:05
ridethespiralI've never had issues with live USB until 14.0423:05
ridethespiralMaybe if this doesn't work its best to wait until the next point release23:05
whoeverridethespiral: well I also have a spindle of disks that i need to use too23:06
ridethespiralI've not bought blank cds in a few years heh23:07
whoeverridethespiral: is you install almost finished23:07
ridethespiralIt's retrieving updates / restricted extras23:07
whoeverridethespiral: also just rememberd some report of a random freezing issue with 14.304 after install that it will freeze and unfreez at random, I discovered that after an update or two with restart your fine23:08
ridethespiralOK. Just about done23:08
whoeverridethespiral: or you can try to purge unity , which didn't help me23:08
whoeverridethespiral: did you cut your teeth on any other distros or you have always been on ubuntu/debian23:09
ridethespiralI tried Slackware many years ago... LOL. That hurt.23:10
ridethespiralRebooting23:11
whoeverridethespiral: gentoo --> arch --> ubuntu , the others wher just too bleeding edge for the hardware i had at the time23:12
ridethespiralWell it booted, loaded a few windows and froze23:12
whoeverand no , I did not use the gui installer that gentoo has23:12
whoeverridethespiral: are you doing it in a vm23:13
ridethespiralNope23:13
whoeveroh , so you do have another box23:13
ridethespiralI'm on my phone right now23:13
ridethespiralLol23:13
whoeveris it an iphone23:14
ridethespiralI so have another old dell with Ubuntu on it though23:14
ridethespiralNexus 523:14
whoeveri was gonna say that was your prob that ithings don't like to associate with linux23:14
whoeverridethespiral: did you get loged in yet23:15
mikey85hello my Ubuntu friends :)23:16
ridethespiralIt logs in but freezes at desktop23:16
mikey85ridethespiral how can I help?23:16
whoevermikey85: hello my unknown virtual ubuntu friend23:16
mikey85lol23:16
whoeverridethespiral: mine stuk for about 4 minutes23:16
ridethespiralMikey85 I just installed 14.04 but upon login it opens a bunch if windows and the cursor goes to the circular loading icon and completely freezes23:17
mikey85could be your internet connection23:17
ridethespiralDoubtfully23:17
ridethespiral12.04 works fine23:17
mikey85well it could be java then23:17
ridethespiralPlease explain23:18
ridethespiral:p23:18
whoeverridethespiral: wow , I think you got a bad install23:18
[Gentoo]mikey85: what are you on about lol23:18
[Gentoo]its none of those23:18
mikey85I remember trying to log on application provided sites would do the same23:18
whoeveri think you should burn slower and install clean23:18
[Gentoo]it prob just cant resolve amazon23:18
ridethespiralThis is a clean install. On a USB.23:18
mikey85well I wasn't there to hear amazon23:18
mikey85I just heard 14.0423:19
mikey85lol23:19
daftykinsridethespiral: is it you that's been struggling with this upgrade/install for the last week or so?23:19
ridethespiralYea lol23:19
daftykinsridethespiral: have you gotten bored enough to memtest it?23:19
ridethespiralI forgot last night :(23:19
mikey85<<<< using a super computer23:19
mikey85:)23:19
mikey85it has liquid cooling >:(23:19
=== JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose
TomyLoboand racing stripes?23:20
[Gentoo]mikey85: how many cores has it got23:20
[Gentoo]does it make espresso?23:20
ridethespiralXD23:20
mikey854770k :)23:20
TomyLobohow about neon lights?23:20
[Gentoo]vtec stickers?23:20
daftykinsguys, no off topic talk please23:20
daftykinsjoin #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to talk about souping up your ubuntu installs23:21
mikey854 cores and 4 virtual that's 8 cores, but It would never run like 8 cores because its just 4 extra virtual cores23:21
mikey85ahhh23:21
mikey85sorry23:21
mikey85this is bigger help than the server's help room lol23:21
daftykinsphysical and logical, not virtual ;)23:21
ridethespiralHow could I somehow grab logs on my boot23:21
ridethespiralWhen I can't use the GUI lol23:21
* whoever wonders if ridethespiral labeld his windows disk ubuntu, because ubuntu does not open alot of windows on a clean install 23:21
[Gentoo]dmesg|less23:22
mikey85daftkins that is 4 virtual ;)23:22
whoeverridethespiral: no gui for you23:22
daftykinsridethespiral: log in at a TTY, hit ctrl+alt+f123:22
ridethespiralWhoever I have a  home partition on a separate drive I haven't formatted from the 12.04 install23:22
ridethespiralWhich is my gueess as to why windows are opening23:22
whoeverridethespiral: either way that is odd that you login and that it is a clean install and a bunch of windows open23:23
ridethespiraldaftykins it does nothing23:23
mikey85I'll be good lol23:23
ridethespiralI can't get to terminal from the froEn desktop23:23
ridethespiralFrozen*23:23
TomyLoboctrl-alt-f1?23:24
ridethespiralIndeed23:24
* whoever punches his new virtual friend mikey85 just for good mesure 23:24
whoever:-)23:24
TomyLobossh?23:24
mikey85lol23:24
whoeverTomyLobo: no he is infront of it23:24
TomyLobodoesnt mean he cant ssh into it23:24
ridethespiralLet me boot up the PC next to me and I'll try ssh23:25
ridethespiral:)23:25
whoeverTomyLobo: correct but thaught you were asking if he was sshed23:25
mikey85<<<<< 32 gigs ram, 4770k, gtx 660, liquid cooling, Blu-ray dvd burner, blue tooth, wifi internet :)23:25
ridethespiralPS irc on phones is a pain in the neck23:26
whoeverridethespiral: you don't have ssh sever if it is a clean install23:26
ridethespiralOh lol ok23:26
mikey85it's an hp phoenix23:26
mikey85ok I'm done lol23:26
whoeverridethespiral: among other places :-p23:26
daftykinsi doubt the clean install would have openssh-server installed23:26
ridethespiralThus the choice of wording hehe23:27
ridethespiralBrb in a moment23:27
whoeverridethespiral: your gonna have to boot interative mode23:27
Mikey85sorry about that23:29
whoeverctrl+alt+t or ctrl+alt+f1 durring boot at the splash screen23:29
Mikey85I was disconnected23:29
whoeverMikey85: sorry about what23:29
Mikey85I was disconnected23:29
Mikey85no big deal23:29
whoeverMikey85: i am mortified that you got disconnected and could not tell me in advance :-p23:30
HomelessSantaAnyone know when Firefox 29.0.1 is coming out for Ubuntu 14.04 it's been a week so far.23:30
Mikey85yes, internet never likes to tell anyone why they were disconnected -_- lol23:30
* whoever bannishes Mikey85 to the land of #winBlowz-[8,9,10 ....]23:31
Mikey85lol23:31
Mikey85is that a channel? lol23:31
daftykinsHomelessSanta: its' fixes were mostly windows 8 related anyway afaik23:31
whoeverHomelessSanta: no they don't tell us crap23:31
daftykinswhoever: stop joking around please.23:32
HomelessSantaUgh!23:32
whoeverdaftykins: ok23:32
Mikey85homelesssanta lol23:32
HomelessSantaI am just surprised, to see it taking a while.23:32
daftykinsHomelessSanta: why are you so keen?23:33
HomelessSantadaftykins, I like to be up to date whenever possible. :P23:33
Mikey85<<<< homeless mikey23:33
Mikey85lol23:34
HomelessSantaThe new Homeless man. :P23:34
HomelessSantaNo worries.23:34
Mikey85homelessSanta the nick name is genius lol23:34
whoeverMikey85: if your homeless than whos wifi are you steeling to talk to us23:34
HomelessSantaWhy thank you Mikey85. :P23:34
ridethespiralWhoa some weird shit going on here. Bad page map in process software centre. Same for system-udevd23:34
daftykinsHomelessSanta: right but you saw me mention that the fixes are irrelevant right?23:34
Mikey85whoever shhhhhhhh lol23:34
ridethespiralThis is after control alt f1 at splash23:35
whoeverMikey85: ah thats why my bandwidth sucks23:35
daftykinsMikey85 and whoever - take it to offtopic.23:35
HomelessSantadaftykins, Indeed but I mentioned I like to be up to date it applies to general applications doesn't necessarily have to be just Firefox.23:35
HomelessSanta:P23:35
Mikey85chanserv op mikey8523:35
Mikey85hope nobody saw that23:35
Mikey85lol23:35
ikoniaMikey85: plese don't try that sort of thing23:35
SonikkuAmericaMikey85: We did.23:35
ikoniathe channel is for ubuntu support - please stick to that23:35
Mikey85ok23:35
Mikey85I was just joking :(23:35
Mikey85I'm a helper23:35
daftykinsHomelessSanta: ok well feel free to come up with a support question, else take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please23:35
whoeverridethespiral: what speed did you burn that disk at23:35
ikoniaMikey85: ok, please stop with the jokes.23:36
Mikey85<<<< is supporting ubunto23:36
HomelessSantaWill do.23:36
Mikey85Ubuntu23:36
ridethespiralwhoever it is a usb23:36
whoeverridethespiral: try and burn one and reinstall23:36
Mikey85I don't use Ubuntu though, but I help :)23:36
ikoniaMikey85: then please focus on the help rather than the other comments,23:37
Mikey85<<<< Christian who helps all that need it :)23:37
Mikey85I am23:37
Mikey85I am focusing23:37
Mikey85anyone need help just ask23:37
ikoniaMikey85: we don't care that you are a christian - so please stop those comments, and focus ONLY on the support23:37
Mikey85ikonia I understand23:37
ikoniaMikey85: thanks23:37
Mikey85I'm not here to make enemies23:37
=== megabit|away is now known as megabitdragon
daftykinsthen please stop talking23:38
Mikey85no23:38
Mikey85I am helping the staff23:38
Mikey85<<<<< will be joining staff23:38
* whoever donates to Mikey85 ubuntu christian box fund .. supplieng internet access to windows users 23:38
Mikey85I just don't like getting criticised23:38
ikoniawhoever: enough23:38
ikoniaguys, everyone, PLEASE, remember this channel isn't a social/jokes channel, it's here to provide support, please stick to that topic23:39
Mikey85ikonia so you say23:39
Mikey85you have said again and again23:39
Mikey85I understand23:39
ridethespiralwhoever here is a picture of the errors when I control alt f1'ed http://tinyurl.com/ndy3nq923:39
HomelessSantaWoah, those are a ton of errors.23:40
HomelessSantaBad page map in process.23:40
ridethespiralIt is still going lol23:40
ridethespiralWhat's that mean23:40
whoeverridethespiral: do you have gparted , run that and do a hardrive test , seems like something is wrong with you drive or your install,23:40
HomelessSantaSeems like a kernel error or kernel bug.23:41
ridethespiralIs it possible the USB stick is defective?23:41
whoeverridethespiral: i think something is wroing with your drive and it just decided to tell you23:41
whoeverridethespiral: yes that is why i kept telling you to burn one -23:41
ridethespiralSorry. I have another USB stick23:42
daftykinsridethespiral: there's a relevant bug here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/128988723:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1289887 in linux (Ubuntu) "BUG: Bad page map in process systemd-udevd pte:ffffffff pmd:68f91067" [Medium,Expired]23:42
whoeverridethespiral: do you have any disks23:42
ridethespiralI may have one23:43
HomelessSantaridethespiral, Running on a LiveUSB?23:43
whoeverridethespiral: only one23:43
ridethespiralHomeless Santa yes23:43
ridethespiralwhoever. Maybe two.. Not many ;)23:44
catzjoin23:44
whoeverridethespiral: well burn one23:44
whoeverand do a frish install23:44
ridethespiralDoes 14.04 fit on CD?23:44
HomelessSantaFigures, the ISO could of been bad.23:44
ridethespiralISO md5sum was perfect23:44
whoeverridethespiral: you might want to keep a copy of gparted around for trouble shoooting like this23:44
HomelessSantaUbuntu 14.04 is about 953MBs I believe.23:44
HomelessSantaWhich a DVD is needed.23:45
whoeverridethespiral: yes23:45
ridethespiralI have a USB stick with 13m04 andbgparted that works like the bees knees23:45
ridethespiral12.04 lol damn phone23:45
whoeverridethespiral: well then try that usb, and if it doesn't work look at the usb strick and the software you used to create it23:46
HomelessSantaI normally, tend to use Startup Disk Creator for transfering Ubuntu ISO's for my USB stick.23:46
ridethespiralIt does work indie a fresh install of it 3 hours ago then tried 14.04 again23:46
ridethespiralI did*23:46
ridethespiralI also used startup disk creator23:47
HomelessSantaridethespiral, Before hand were you on 12.04?23:48
ridethespiralYup23:48
HomelessSantaridethespiral, It worked without any issues right.23:48
ridethespiralFor a long long time23:48
HomelessSantaMy guess is it has something to do with the kernel.23:48
HomelessSantaI would say if you could boot into a different kernel don't know if LiveUSB's allow you to switch to GRUB and alter the kernel.23:49
HomelessSantaOr to even get into Recovery Mode.23:49
ridethespiralI was using Ubuntu studio 12.04 before installing vanilla unity 14.04. Studio had kernel 3.11.xx23:49
daftykinsridethespiral: do you know if it's booting in EFI or legacy mode?23:50
ridethespiralHow to know?  :p23:50
HomelessSantaI'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and the kernel is 3.13.0-24.23:50
daftykins!efi | ridethespiral23:50
ubotturidethespiral: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:50
whoeverdaftykins: ah, I assumed legacy23:50
daftykinsa tough lesson i learnt years ago, is to never assume anything :D23:51
whoeverdaftykins: true23:52
juki_ridethespiral: do you know how to get into the bios settings when you first power on your computer?23:52
whoeverwell i also forgot about efi23:52
whoeverefi just seems to not be all there23:52
whoeverridethespiral: it is probably going to be delete23:54
huntis there a way to do pip23:55
huntwith a window?23:55
ridethespiralSo I do have windows 7 installed on another HDD so if it installed in that mode ( I installed windows 5 months ago along side Ubuntu, using a livev usb to fix grub) and haven't done a fresh install since then. Maybe that's the issue that it installed in this mode23:55
huntor a space23:55
huntridethespiral: i just installed ubuntu on an ssd with some difficulty two days ago, whats your problem?23:56
whoeverhunt: well what are you trying to achieve23:56
juki_there is a setting in your bios ridethespiral to enable efi or not23:56
huntwhoever: i wanna monitor the status of a fullscreen game while im browsing23:56
huntso i can tell when to tab back in: whoever23:57
=== george2|chakra is now known as george2
daftykinsridethespiral: so when you're installing 14.04, what's on the hard disk in the system? is there only one hard disk? :)23:57
whoeverhunt: you need a scrip to pull the data from that window23:57
huntridethespiral: i did uefi! that was my problem. in bios boot your install disk with efi23:57
huntwhoever: nothing already exists?23:57
juki_hunt: only the top window can be full screen, dual monitors still only have one "window on top"23:57
whoeverhunt: so no you cannot pipe a windows23:57
whoeverhunt: no23:57
hunthm?23:58
hunti have 1 monitor23:58
hunti have a few different proccesses23:58
huntones in fullscreen but alt tabbed23:58
whoeverhunt: than you can put it on another workspace minimize the window23:58
ridethespiralDaftykins I have a 32gb ssd with a "/" "/boot" and swap partition along with a 10pmb partition forna windows loader. My 500gb HDD has my 100gb windows installation and /home23:58
whoeverhunt: your choices are limited with one monitor and not having a stript to monitor it for you23:59
ridethespiral100mb partition for windows loader lol23:59
SyLAnybody else having problems with getting mysql to read ssl certs? this is in ubuntu 14.04.23:59

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