[00:00] <xeno2> Ok.  I'll start the teapot and be in earshot.
[00:00] <Yelu> xeno2, cloud is okay, but "knowing" stuff at detail level is much better (my opinion)
[00:00] <xeno2> D'accord.
[00:00]  * Yelu reads and searchs  in the meanwhile ...
[00:13] <Yelu> xeno2, => first hit (but only to create a new vm) => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7481044/
[00:14] <Yelu> xeno2, hit 2 (modifying/cloning a vm) is coming soon ...
[00:14] <xeno2> I got the pastie.
[00:15] <xeno2> That's not too long a sequence.  I think I can get 'em all right, probably on the first try.
[00:15] <Yelu> xeno2, you have to set execution bit (chmod 755) as root on these files, ut you sirely know ...
[00:16] <xeno2> Which files, and no I haven't done that for at least a decade, but go ahead...
[00:17] <xeno2> Please keep in mind that when I create it fresh, it works fine.  It's only the cloned version that fails like this.
[00:19] <Yelu> xeno2, thanks for the heads up, I remember. - I'm interested in this issue, cause I wanted to deal with your current software (chef etc.)
[00:20] <xeno2> Ok.
[00:21]  * Yelu hacks together some cloning script lines ...
[00:21] <stoned> hi
[00:21] <stoned> I have mod_php/mpm_prefork (ubuntu default php setup) working
[00:22] <stoned> When I switch to mod fcgid, I get internal server error
[00:22] <stoned> I cloned the orignal server instance, I made my eidts/changes there, and everything seems tow ork
[00:22] <stoned> I make the same changes on the live server, and Internal server error happens
[00:22] <stoned> so I switched it back to mod_php for now
[00:23] <stoned> I mean, I can clone the server inifinite times, and make changes and switch to mod_fcgid and it works, but if i then makes the same changes on the original server where the site is running, I can't get it to work
[00:23] <stoned> i looked through the errorlog in apache, nothing. I look through ssl_error log nothing. same w/ access log
[00:24] <stoned> I changed the log level to be more verbose (debug) and still nothing
[00:24] <stoned> Currently a clone of this server is runing the website on mod fcgid in apache 2.2 ubuntu 10.04 lts
[00:24] <stoned> works fine
[00:24] <stoned> the original server is 10.04 lts ubuntu apache 2.2 mod_php/mpm prefork
[00:25] <stoned> Any gurus wanna help me tackle this?
[00:25] <stoned> Since I can't take the server down
[00:26] <stoned> I considered creating a 64 bit chroot, and debootstrap a debian stable install in there, get apache and fastcgi to work on another port like 8080 and test it out
[00:26] <stoned> once it's working and everything, redirect all incoming requests to that chrooted apache server
[00:27] <stoned> or just build apache 2.4 + php 5.6 etc. w/ fast cgi in /usr/local/bin and get it working on 8080 or somethign and then forward all to localhost:8080 and have that new apache instance run it
[00:27] <stoned> or just tell the new apache instance the same webroot as the other server
[00:28] <stoned> can one ssl certificate on one domain listen on two separate server instances each serving on a diff port
[00:28] <stoned> say 2.2 apache on 80 and 2.4 apache on 8080
[00:28] <stoned> ?
[00:31] <xeno2> Yelu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7481090/
[00:32] <xeno2> Yelu:  On boot it complains we got the cpu wrong.
[00:33] <xeno2> It says it thinks it's i686 instead of x64.
[00:39] <xeno2> Going to find my wife.  BRB.
[00:49] <Yelu> xeno2, new pastebin with a "oneliner" for cloning a vm => http://paste.ubuntu.com/7481141/
[00:50] <Yelu> xeno2, for the i686/x64 discrepancy - I just can't understand it :(
[00:51] <Yelu> xeno2, I'm double checking the parameters now.
[00:51] <xeno2> Okay, but I can start from one that works with this clone command, right?
[00:52] <Yelu> xeno2, if the guest is running, then the clone should also run.
[00:54] <xeno2> Basefolder...
[00:55] <xeno2> Like ./VirtualBox VMs/$2 or ./VirtualBox VMs?
[00:55] <Yelu> xeno2, basefolder is something like /root/VirtualBox VMs/<your-new-vm-lives-inside-here/>
[00:55] <xeno2> Ok.  Thank you.
[00:56] <Yelu> xeno2, but take care: standard is /root as home NOT /home/xeno
[00:56] <Yelu> xeno2, I saw, you did nstall VBox into another home
[00:56] <Yelu> ^install
[00:57] <xeno2> Hmm.  Perhaps that is my problem all along.  I have always installed on /home/xeno, never on /root.
[00:58] <xeno2> Machine has been successfully cloned as "ububhclone1"
[00:58] <Yelu> xeno2, you can do it this way, your user must own all files under his home
[00:58] <Yelu> xeno2, okay, we got a new clone, but is it running?
[00:59] <xeno2> Not yet...
[01:01] <xeno2> I am sorry I'm taking so long....
[01:01] <Yelu> xeno2, time is o your side
[01:02]  * Yelu orders a new keyboard (better takes 2)
[01:02] <xeno2> Not according to my wife, my bank account, employment security, nor my hip bones.
[01:02] <Yelu> xeno2, :)
[01:03] <Yelu> xeno2, the order of your enumeration is very interesting for me (same here)
[01:03] <xeno2> But we're gonna take a long walk around the park later, and it's not really my hips.  It's actually my back cramping that makes them hurt.  The bones are strong.
[01:05] <Yelu> xeno2, movement in fresh air in ggod company is always a good thing - and leaving the tec stuff behind ...
[01:06] <xeno2> Okay, the clone does not come up in the GUI, even after restarting it.
[01:06] <Yelu> xeno2, what is in the log of vbox?
[01:07] <xeno2> Where do I find that?  I don't see a vbox log in /var/log
[01:08] <xeno2> There is an item in the GUI dropdown up above, but I see nothing related to the by hand vm.
[01:08] <Yelu> xeno2, ah, okay, you meant the GUI of the clone, which isn't starting yes? - Then forget about the GUI-log - the VirtualBox log is under the basefolder, I think ... just chekcig.
[01:09] <Yelu> xeno2, difficult to check for me, how about ubploding a screenshot if possible?
[01:09] <Yelu> *uploading
[01:09] <xeno2> No, I mean the menu GUI that lists all the clones.  The GUI menu for accessing the clones does not show ububhclone1
[01:10] <xeno2> And here is the command I gave:  VBoxManage clonevm "ubuvm1" --mode all --name "ububhclone1" --basefolder "$HOME/VirtualBox VMs/ububhclone1"
[01:10] <Yelu> how did you create the clone? as root or as user<x>
[01:10] <xeno2> Oh, as user.
[01:11] <xeno2> Maybe I need to go back and try both steps by root.
[01:11] <Yelu> xeno2, i agree
[01:12] <Yelu> xeno2, set it up clean as root (Virtualbox software) and do all commands as root (cloning etc.)
[01:12] <xeno2> Okay, well I will need to log out and change the desktop to root desktop so I can fully test.  I'm gonna do that on my laptop...
[01:13]  * Yelu goes into stand-by for a little tea time ...
[01:14] <xeno2> Ubuntu won't let me do that.  Never mind.
[01:14] <xeno2> Okay, trying blindly from a terminal.
[01:15] <Yelu> xeno2, wait, just copy all your folders (VMs) to the /root folder, then get the ownership of it.
[01:16] <Yelu> xeno2, chown -R root:root /root/*
[01:17] <xeno2> Okay, I'll try that first.
[01:17] <Yelu> xeno2, no, this is a bad idea, the pathes are within the virtualbox definitions
[01:17] <Yelu> sorry, my bad
[01:17] <xeno2> Okay, going back to the command sequence.
[01:18] <Yelu> xeno2, and I'm going for a tea
[01:18] <Yelu> xeno2, 10 minutes
[01:19] <xeno2> Best wishes.
[01:24] <xeno2> Okay, I have followed the sequences.  I don't know how to boot without the GUI, however, so I am stuck at this point.
[01:24] <xeno2> Looking up on the web.
[01:27] <xeno2> Okay, I used startvm to start my install of the by hand install on root, and I get the same complaint about wrong arch, i686.
[01:27] <xeno2> Doublechecked and my iso is correct.
[01:29] <Yelu> xeno2, 'm back. - Okay, this is of no good :(
[01:30] <Yelu> I've installed a 14.04 Desktop 64bit (as a vm). - Then I installed VIrtualBox with apt-get install virtualbox (as root)
[01:30] <xeno2> Well, I feel we've learned something, but perhaps my hip says I need to rest.  Please keep my email:  xeno@eskimo.com
[01:30] <Yelu> Wait ...
[01:30] <xeno2> Ok...yes but `14.04 works for me too.
[01:30] <Yelu> just one seocnd, please
[01:30] <xeno2> Sure.
[01:30] <xeno2> Don't feel rushed.
[01:30] <xeno2> I can stay longer.
[01:31] <Yelu> Then I tried to install in THAT VirtualBox Porgram a Ubuntu Server 14.04
[01:31] <Yelu> But it gave me ONLY 32 bit as choice ...
[01:32] <Yelu> Thanks for your time
[01:34] <xeno2> Ok, I get the ability, with the GUI to install an Ubuntu 64 bit server on my virtualbox Ubuntu Server 14.04, 14.04 on vbox on 14.04.
[01:35] <xeno2> Therefore it must be something else.  It could be that works that way just with VBoxManage, and the GUI has some edge on it.
[01:36] <xeno2> At any rate, thank you for your time too.  When you spend more time on it, please invite me.  I'll keep an eye out for emails with even rough time when you might want feedback.  Very best wishes, and good evening.
[01:36] <Yelu> xeno2, so your situation is as to be expected. - Your suggest to give it a rest is a wise one, I think. - Please ell free to email me under yelupic@gmail.com if you like.
[01:37] <Yelu> All the best to you.
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[14:26] <wizard_A> how do i install the ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-server 14.04
[14:27] <cfhowlett> wizard_A sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <wizard_A> i do not want office and extras...
[14:28] <cfhowlett> wizard_A ah, so unity Desktop Environment only?
[14:28] <wizard_A> yes
[14:29] <cfhowlett> wizard_A sudo apt-get install unity
[14:30] <wizard_A> error: unable to locate unity??
[14:31] <cfhowlett> wizard_A run this command    lsb_release -a
[14:31] <wizard_A> yes thats 14.04 LTS
[14:53] <wizard_A> cfhowlett: you there??
[14:53] <cfhowlett> wizard_A yes.
[14:54] <cfhowlett> wizard_A probably easier to install ubuntu and add the server packages as opposed to the inverse
[15:04] <wizard_A> yes thats a possible work around but, i want to hack around with ubuntu server, because may be installing ubuntu-dektop and the server packages on top of it, may take a lot of time and plus can go in vain...
[15:05] <cfhowlett> wizard_A suggest you ask in #ubuntu.  there's apparently a method to remove unity, so I imagine you can reverse that process.
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !nounity
[15:06] <cfhowlett> wizard_A and installing server packages in ubuntu is dead simple
[16:28] <rostam> HI I am using ubuntu 12.04. How kernel module signing is support on ubuntu? thx
[17:10] <bekks> rostam: It works, why?
[17:21] <rostam> bekks, I get this error :   http://paste.debian.net/100134/
[17:23] <bekks> rostam: "Entry was not found in database".
[17:26] <rostam> bekks, sorry here is the correct one: http://paste.debian.net/100461/
[17:27] <bekks> rostam: http://askubuntu.com/questions/379714/error-backports-install-ath9k-using-12-04-lts
[17:31] <rostam> bekks: according to that url, the kernel modules will get installed but in my case it doesnot.
[17:33] <rostam> bekks, I apologize it is thanks
[22:49] <jak2001> hi all
[22:50] <jak2001> why i acces to my servr with user: jak  and password but when try acces with putty on my windows laptop cant? access deneied? how to fix it? thanks