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daftykinsridethespiral: ah ok, so i take it you're always able to start the 14.04 live session fine since you've installed from it several times, it's only ever the first boot that goes funny?00:00
whoeverridethespiral: 32gb there is no way you can get linux and windows on the same dive and sustain them00:00
Beldarwhoever, read the posts00:00
daftykinswhoever: you didn't read in enough detail, that's only where Windows' bootloader is00:00
ridethespiralWell the live USB would freeze and do the same thing so I tried holding shift while booting to get to some recovery dealio or something and it managed to boot without freezing. I then installed and it will boot and login to desktop but freeze. ( I have autologin)00:01
ridethespiralThen I tried hitting control alt f1 while booting and got this http://tinyurl.com/ndy3nq9 daftykins00:02
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TheBabyDerphey peoples00:03
TheBabyDerpanyone here00:03
TheBabyDerpanyone?00:03
BeldarTheBabyDerp, Many state your issue.00:04
whoeverridethespiral: is trim on , on your ssd00:04
SyLI'm getting an error when mysql starts that it can't read my ssl certs. but it has full permissions. Any ideas?00:04
TheBabyDerphow many channels are in this irc chat00:05
Beldar!ot > TheBabyDerp00:05
ubottuTheBabyDerp, please see my private message00:05
TheBabyDerpi never got your pm00:05
BeldarTheBabyDerp, When you join a channel read it's policy and activities, this is ubuntu support.00:06
TheBabyDerpdude i am just looking for chat rooms peace out00:06
ridethespiralwhoever can I check that from recovery? I thought 12.04+ detected ssds and enabled trim00:06
Beldarridethespiral, Not in linux per-say00:06
Beldaryou haver to set up a cron trim or run it manually00:07
ridethespiralI have00:07
ridethespiralWhen I first installed 12.04 a long time ago I did00:08
SilverSlimerhey guys, small problem with ubuntu. on occasion, when waking from sleep, i get black borders around windows. logging out and back on fixes it but i'm wondering if there's a permanent solution00:08
Beldarridethespiral, Are you installed, I have not followed all the posts?00:08
ridethespiralI may have forgotten at one fresh install though.. Probably she. I installed Ubuntu studio 12.04 a couple months back00:08
ridethespiralYes00:08
Beldarridethespiral, You would have to set up trim on any install, and not an issue here to be honest.00:09
SilverSlimer14.04  btw . i assume my issue is one with compiz00:09
ridethespiralInstalled but when hooting (00:09
ridethespiralOops00:09
Beldar!bootinfo | ridethespiral do this and pastbin the output00:09
ubotturidethespiral do this and pastbin the output: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).00:09
Beldarridethespiral, also please gey used to starting any answer to another with their nick,00:10
Beldarget*00:10
ridethespiralBeldar sorry I'm using my phone no tab button :(00:10
ridethespiralHitting up other pc now lol00:11
Beldarridethespiral, If you don't use a nick, you get lost in the shuffle, we all don;t just stare at the monitor waiting.00:11
ridethespiralBeldar I know00:11
Beldarridethespiral, So tun that bootinfo script it has a lot of info on it that is helpful00:12
Beldarrun*00:12
ridethespiralBeldar I'm booting my working live USB of 12.04.3 right now00:12
Beldaruse a live cd as you need acces to that HD ridethespiral00:12
Beldarcool00:12
ridethespiralI appreciate the willingness of everyone's help00:13
ridethespiral:)00:13
daftykinsjust promise me you'll come and tell me what the answer was once you solve it00:13
allenhey guys00:13
daftykinsi love solving mysteries00:13
daftykinsallen: hi00:13
allenso i'm running ubuntu/unity for the first time , can i add stuff to the bar at the top, like a weather applet or something of that nature ?00:14
ridethespiraldaftykins will do00:15
Beldarallen, http://www.howtogeek.com/118908/10-awesome-indicator-applets-for-ubuntus-unity-desktop/  see if this one works.00:15
ridethespiralalright on an actual pc beside my laptop now lol00:16
daftykins\o/00:16
allenBeldar, thanks i'll give it a go, just got something installing right now, so i have to wait a min00:16
mrdebhi. how do u go into 2d mode00:17
Beldarmrdeb, what release?00:17
alleni have to say, this seems to be running much faster than Mint did00:18
mrdebthe one now00:18
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mrdebthe 1404 ubuntu00:18
mrdebit is too slow on machines for xp00:18
Beldarmrdeb, http://askubuntu.com/questions/421148/unity-2d-on-trusty-14-04  about 3 seconds to find.00:19
mrdebwhat 3 seconds00:19
ridethespiralBeldar, can you link to that script again00:19
Beldarmrdeb, Finding on the web what you could have. searched with 14.04 2d00:19
Beldar!bootinfo > ridethespiral00:20
ubotturidethespiral, please see my private message00:20
mrdebthat is not necessary00:20
mrdebok, so it is there00:20
Beldarmrdeb, what is not necessary, reminding you how easy it is to find stuff?00:21
mrdebthat is also a bad answer00:21
mrdebi know lxde00:21
kkkkkkkkkanoyne uses ubuntu and have a nvidia card??????00:22
kkkkkkkkkubuntu 14.0400:23
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: lots of people do, what's your question?00:23
Beldarmrdeb, You did not say what desktop, very little info to work with to be honest.00:23
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, my ubuntu 14.04 was crashing when i play cs ssource, i have nvida card00:24
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, the system freezes, an happen nvidia fallen off us00:24
kkkkkkkkkbus00:24
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i uninstalled virtualbox, and the crash disapeared00:24
daftykinsah-har, perhaps virtualbox's kernel modules were interfering somehow00:25
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: did you try different nvidia driver versions to see if it still happened with all of them?00:25
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins,  i tried diferent driver, diferent kernel version, and the same crash00:25
daftykinsbut only when virtualbox was on?00:26
daftykinswas/is00:26
ridethespiralBeldar, know where i can upload this txt file?00:26
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, the crash occured just when i am playng cs source00:26
daftykinsridethespiral: paste.ubuntu.com00:26
Beldarridethespiral, You have to copy and paste it is all00:27
ridethespiralBeldar, paste.ubuntu.com/7481080/00:27
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, the system freezes, cpu fan goes 100%, cpu workload too00:27
SchrodingersScatkkkkkkkkk: why did you mention virtualbox then?00:27
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: any other steam games?00:28
kkkkkkkkkSchrodingersScat, because i would like to know if anyone had this issue too00:28
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i play dota2, metro last light, and the system doesnt crash00:29
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, just cs source00:29
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, nvidia fallen off bus00:29
HazzardI'm having trouble booting after upgrading to 14.04. I would put all the details here, but there's always so many conversations going on here at the same time. I posted on the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222474400:29
HazzardIf anyone has any suggestions that would be awesome00:29
Beldarridethespiral, First I see no gpt partitioning or uefi boot.00:30
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i have tested a large number of kernels and nvidia drivers, but the system always crashed00:30
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: what about with 12.04 ?00:30
ridethespiralBeldar, which means? o.o00:30
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, and always during cs source gameplay00:30
ubuntuaddictedi have some files on a NAS that are for some reason hidden. the NAS shares the folder out via SMB and I can't set the owner, it errors out as invalid argument00:31
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, with ubuntu 12.04 too, system crash00:31
Beldarridethespiral, Well, you were getting info as if from the channel in this area without anyone actually checking, or you knowing.00:31
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i dont understand the relation of cs source with virtualbox and nvidia driver00:32
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: it sounds to me like your system has more issues that may not even be ubuntu related00:32
ridethespiralBeldar, thus the getting no where quick? :P00:32
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Beldarridethespiral, sda5 and sda3 are missing all the needed grub stuff to boot, what is in them exactly?00:32
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, when i uninstalled virtualbox, i started cs source, and i play during 1 hour without crash00:32
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ridethespiralsda5 & 3 are root and /boot partitions00:32
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: that's not a very thorough test00:33
ridethespiralBeldar, root and /boot afaik00:33
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i read a post that someone says that had this issue too00:33
ridethespiralBeldar, that's what I intended...00:33
Beldarridethespiral, So you just wanr ubuntu on the ssd=sda?00:34
Beldarwant*00:34
Beldarjust ubuntu?00:34
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: and did they resolve it?00:34
ridethespiralBeldar, yes, with /home on /dev/sdb00:34
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk te post doesnt say the solution00:34
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i think they doesnt hava the idea to uninstall virtualbox00:35
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, and test without it00:35
Beldarridethespiral, I never make a separate home, that is really old school and pushed to much, ubuntu advises one partition. However you can seperate the home if needed.00:35
ridethespiralBeldar, weird because I've seen it recommended many times. People with 128gb SSD have their /home on 2tb hdd's ...00:36
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i installed vmware as alternative of virtualbox, and until now i have no crash anymore00:36
ridethespiral(desktops that is)00:36
ridethespiralBeldar, I see no reason it shouldn't be applicable in modern pc's even00:36
Beldarridethespiral, Sure people do all sorts of things from a confirmation bias state.00:36
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: sooo, where's the problem?00:37
ridethespiralBeldar, so should I try an install of everything just on the 32gb ssd?00:37
ridethespirallol00:37
ridethespiralBeldar, remember I've had this partition setup for two years with no issues until the last week00:38
Beldarridethespiral, and that is supposed to mean what?00:38
ridethespiralBeldar, that I don't see why it would cause issues now. Not trying to be snarky :P I'm not that pro at linux lol00:39
Beldarridethespiral, Any way that is an easy install to the ssd, I'm not sure what the problems have been.00:39
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, the problem is that wilhe i was playing cs source on my notebook, if vvirtualbox modules is loaded the system crashes00:39
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: right but you removed that and changed to vmware?00:40
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i dont know what is causing the issue00:40
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, yes00:40
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: but you've avoided it?00:40
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, and the system stopped crashing when i start to play cs source00:40
daftykinsyou're going in circles :)00:41
ridethespiralBeldar, fresh install of 14.04, freezes @ desktop00:41
ridethespiralBeldar, that's the issue00:42
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i dont know if its a nvidia driver bug, or cs source or virtualbox00:42
Beldarridethespiral, freezes exactly how?00:42
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, i know that i uninstalled the vbox and the system stopped to crash00:42
zombu2where n t you here yeaterday with your laptop with the broken radeon?00:42
ridethespiralBeldar, it loads a few windows (terminal, software centre, firefox) and then just freezes. I can't move the mouse or do anything. That's what I'm trying to figure out. What exactly is causing it00:43
ridethespiralbrb fooooood00:43
zombu2ram or hdd00:43
zombu2or video card00:43
ridethespiralzombu2, how to know...?00:43
zombu2is that still that i5 with that radeon00:43
kkkkkkkkkdaftykins, because of this happen to me i questioned if someone has nvidia and virtualbox installed, and if hava this same issue00:44
Beldarridethespiral, You checked if the OS is swapping?00:44
ridethespiralzombu2, yes00:44
juki_how do you check if the OS is swapping?00:44
zombu2throw it away00:44
ridethespiralLOL00:44
thumpbai have a new installation of 14.04 and am unable to send logs from one ubuntu server to another00:44
ridethespiral12.04.3 works fine00:44
ridethespiral14.04 all hell breaks loose00:44
daftykinskkkkkkkkk: it's unlikely you'll find someone in here with that exact setup, you'd be better off either posting a thread to the ubuntu forums, steam forums, or askubuntu.com00:44
Beldarjuki_, number of ways I have a conky show it.00:45
zombu2did you check the ram like you promised00:45
thumpbai can ping the log server just fine but cant on port 23 for telnet00:45
ridethespiralzombu2,  no :( I fell asleep lol00:45
zombu2well get going then00:45
ridethespiralalright00:45
zombu2then do the video stress test00:45
ridethespiralzombu2, on windows 7?00:45
zombu2on whatever00:46
daftykinsthumpba: what do you mean by 'cant on port 23' ? can't what on port 23?00:46
zombu2and like you stated last night you seeing artifacts on that card so something is broken00:46
thumpbadaftykins: im unable to telnet to the log server nor ping on port 23 which is telnet port00:46
zombu2prolly that piece of shit radeon00:47
daftykinsthumpba: ping is the ICMP protocol, you cannot ping a port number00:47
thumpbadaftykins: if i drop the port then i can pint00:47
thumpbai cannot telnet. i get connection refused00:47
daftykinsthumpba: the service isn't running on the other end then00:47
juki_daftykins: example?  is that like 127.0.0.1:2300:47
ridethespiralzombu2, lolol :(00:47
ridethespiralzombu2, next laptop I'm definitely making sure it is linux compatible >.<00:48
zombu2you laughing heh i m still pretty sure that radeon is busted00:48
ridethespiralzombu2, it is lol00:48
ridethespiralzombu2, but I disable it and it works in 12.0400:48
zombu2well time to take ol roy out the back yard00:48
ridethespiralwell, 12.04 works00:48
daftykinsjuki_: that'd be a socket, i'm not sure what you're asking me00:48
ridethespiraljust seeing if I can get 14.04 going00:48
thumpbajuki_: exactly00:49
zombu2well even when you disable it it is still going since it is the default00:49
daftykinsthumpba: telnet is not a secure protocol and you cannot ping a port number :)00:49
zombu2can t turn em off really00:49
juki_ohh, i misread your comment daftykins, i thought you said to ping the protocol00:49
daftykinshah00:49
* zombu2 slaps juki_ with a small netserver00:49
daftykinszombu2: please stay on topic.00:50
zombu2ok with a small port 23 then00:50
asarchThis is the dmesg from the Xen kernel:00:51
asarchhttp://sprunge.us/ZBTA00:51
asarchIt won't work with my laptop, right?00:52
thumpbadaftykins: you can ping a specific port number ex: ping 127.0.0.1 -p 2200:52
daftykinswhy do you want to run Xen?00:52
daftykinsthumpba: lol no you can't00:52
asarchI would like to learn to use it daftykins00:52
daftykinsasarch: it's not the primary virtualisation technology supported by ubuntu, so you're likely to find a lot of issues00:53
asarchThe funny thing is, this same laptop works with Xen in OpenSuse00:53
daftykinsthumpba: ping is part of the ICMP protocol, it simply doesn't work with ports00:54
daftykinsasarch: sure, different OS, different kernel00:54
asarchOh :-(00:54
thumpbadaftykins: gotcha, so nmap would be more reliable then00:55
zombu2well since you can t ping a port yes haha00:55
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daftykinsthumpba: indeed, since it can port scan... but you have access to the system you're trying to hit port 23 on correct? so just run "netstat -tuln" there to see what ports are listening00:56
zombu2ufw could block that port too00:56
daftykinsthumpba: i'd be very surprised if a system has telnet open though... not very safe at all00:56
qbexola00:56
qbexgatinha?00:57
hggdh actually, the ideal is to use traceroute to trace a TCP port (not UDP). Or tcptraceroute. Ping is limited to ICMP, which a lot of dumb firewall block completely00:57
daftykinshggdh: traceroute does not trace ports ¬_¬00:58
zombu2mehehe00:58
daftykinsoh deary me, i seem to have slipped into the place where networking logic goes to die00:58
zombu2i m sure we gonna hear a couple more whoppers00:58
hggdhdaftykins: yes, it does. inetutils-traceroute does not, though00:59
pedrocrhow can I tell ubuntu to forget my PGP key passphrase?00:59
pedrocrI want to be asked the passphrase on every usage for safety00:59
ridethespiralafter memtest hits 100% pass it will start over again right?00:59
daftykinsridethespiral: yep, tends to be nice to do at least two passes01:00
zombu2yes let it run for hours01:00
zombu2the longer you run it the better the chance to find bad ram01:00
ridethespiralI will zombu2 just making sure it will restart01:00
zombu2it will just loop01:00
ridethespiralkewl. Either way I'm saving up for a new laptop >.<01:01
zombu2note shared video ram will not be tested01:01
daftykinsridethespiral: how far did things progress with the last round of help?01:01
ridethespiralI posted my boot script log and went nowhere lol01:01
juki_will you expand on shared video ram zombu2?01:01
zombu2huh?01:01
daftykinsridethespiral: booting isn't the issue though, right?01:01
ridethespiraldaftykins, it boots fine, I have autologin enabled, it loads the desktop and a few windows and freezes01:02
ridethespiralon 14.0401:02
zombu2daftykins he has a radeon card in the laptop which is primary01:02
ridethespiral12.04.3 works fine01:02
juki_ridethespiral: have you disabled desktop effects?01:02
daftykinszombu2: who?01:02
ridethespiralzombu2 yes, but why would 12.04.3 work fine01:02
Beldarworked01:03
zombu2different driver01:03
chadcldhello01:03
zombu2could use different mem locations01:03
Beldarworks sounds as if still installed01:03
zombu2you could also pull ram sticks out and boot and see if it makes a difference01:03
ridethespiralzombu2, in 12.04.3, ubuntu installs and boots fine but runs really really hot. so I disable the radeon with an acpi_call module (who many do with _working_ radeons)01:04
zombu2i d pull the rams and try each01:04
daftykinsridethespiral: yours has a faulty AMD discrete GPU?01:04
Geohow do I tell which partition does what via commandline? ie, swap, /boot, etc?01:04
zombu2yup01:04
zombu2has artifacts01:05
daftykinsGeo: sudo fdisk -l01:05
ridethespiralyes daftykins, when I select "discreet" in bios it boots to radeon defaulted with artifacts, but still works and I can use the computer (though artifacted)01:05
GeoRight, but which is what01:05
daftykinsGeo: identify the file systems then mount them and look at the contents01:05
GeoI got swap01:05
GeoBut looking at fdisk, I have 160gb, on a 80gb disk01:05
Geosomething isnt right there :P01:05
ridethespiraldaftykins, right now I'm in 'switchable' graphics mode01:05
daftykinsGeo: can you pastebin the output from fdisk -l to show me?01:06
zombu2also they could have used a i5 with a faulty video hence they used radeons in em01:06
daftykinsridethespiral: ok and those are the only two options?01:06
ridethespiraldaftykins, yes01:06
ridethespiralzombu2, i5 gfx works fine01:06
zombu2it just freezes huh01:06
ridethespiralzombu2, in 14.04 yes, not in 12.04.301:07
daftykinsridethespiral: i don't really like the use of your old install's /home and having it setup for auto login etc, i think i saw someone advising you to try just installing to the SSD as a test? did you consider that?01:07
ridethespiraldaftykins, no I asked about it but don't believe I got a response01:07
ridethespiraldaftykins, right now I'm doing memtest lol01:07
daftykinszombu2: you are seriously stretching ideas here, the likelihood of anything you've been suggesting is seriously low that i have to disbelieve it from the start01:07
Geodaftykins: apparently not, pastebinit seems to have kicked the can after this upgrade, and I only have CLI01:08
daftykinsi-series processors don't get sold with faulty on-die GPUs afaik01:08
zombu2daftkins tell that to the gateway laptop i got here :P01:08
daftykinsGeo: can't reinstall it? :)01:08
daftykinszombu2: hmm?01:08
zombu2i5 gpu is bad and amd card is busted too01:08
ridethespirallol01:08
zombu2amd card desoldered01:09
ridethespiralthat's why windows 7 works without a hitch01:09
Geodaftykins: seems to be a python thing01:09
ridethespiral?01:09
Geonot interested in troubleshooting that now01:09
daftykinszombu2: well that cannot be common, lovely story though ;)01:09
zombu2heh01:09
daftykinsridethespiral: so do we know whether you've got EFI or legacy installs yet?01:10
zombu2remember those dells with them nvidia cards01:10
zombu2same crap01:10
daftykinsofftopic.01:10
daftykinskeep on message please01:10
zombu2not really01:10
daftykinsyes, yes it is01:10
ridethespiraldaftykins, was it you that linked to the explaination of efi?01:11
zombu2it was an addition to the laptop issue regarding you blowing off the ideas i presented01:11
ridethespiral~efi01:11
ridethespiral!efi01:11
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:11
Beldardaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7481080/ ridethespiral's bootinfo01:11
daftykinsridethespiral: yeah01:11
ridethespiralnvm :)01:11
daftykinsBeldar: ty01:11
zombu2:P01:11
Beldarno prob01:11
Geoso, theres no way to see what partition is mounted where?01:13
zombu2df -h01:14
zombu2should show you01:14
Geozombu2, looking for swap, boot, etc01:14
zombu2gparted or disk util01:14
daftykinsGeo: 'sudo fdisk -l' will show one partition as swap, and others as ext4, yes?01:14
zombu2disk util will show you mount points01:14
daftykinsor whichever filesystem01:15
thumpbadaftykins: i do have access to the system that im trying to hit port 23 on01:15
BeldarGeo, I have to wonder what the end goal is here?01:15
daftykinsthumpba: so run "netstat -tuln" on it01:15
thumpbadaftykins: got it01:15
GeoI'm down to this- sde5=swap, sde6=/home. That leaves me with a "Linux" partition marked as boot, and an "Extended" partition01:15
thumpbathanks01:16
Geobut assuming blocks is listed in KB, there is more partition space than disk drive01:16
daftykinsGeo: you really don't have any way of getting info off this system and online so we can see fdisk's output? not even a photo of the display?01:17
daftykinsi think you're just going wrong with your maths01:17
Beldaror thst is one magical hd01:17
Beldarthat*01:17
Geooh, fstab, fuh01:18
Geowhat was the path where you can match UUID to /dev assignment?01:18
Geo/something/by-uuid/01:18
daftykinspath? /dev surely01:18
Beldarsudo blkid01:19
jcstarkenintel built in video sony vaio 12.04 lts how do I know I am running the best video drivers01:19
Beldarjcstarken, The repos have what is available, is it running fine? Intel stuff has never been a problem here.01:20
Geowhat are the default partitions on an ubuntu install? /, swap, and one more, right?01:21
jcstarkenBeldar: I believe it is I just think sometimes the video is not as clear as it was on windows and I know that it can be01:21
BeldarGeo, Two partitions the os and a swap01:21
* woof-woof spits on the channel's floor.01:22
Geohrm01:22
Geowell then I definitely have a mystery partition01:22
jellowGeo, /home ?01:22
daftykinsGeo: provide fdisk's output.01:22
GeoI have that accounted for01:22
Beldarjcstarken, I would identify the hardware exactly and use that here in this inquiry, and or look on the web, I suspect what you have is what is available.01:23
ridethespiral!efi01:23
rww!uefi01:24
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:24
rwwubottu: efi is <alias> uefi01:24
ubottuBut efi already means something else!01:24
rww!efi01:24
rww!-efi01:24
ubottuefi is <alias> uefi - added by Pici on 2013-02-18 18:52:4201:24
rwwoh, lol01:24
jcstarkenBeldar: Thank you01:24
Beldarridethespiral, none of your installs are running a uefi install, nor do you have gpt partitions.01:25
AenimaThis is ridethespiral lol. Now I remember whybi don't use this old pos computer. Something is wrong with it haha. Back to my phone and fixing the laptop :/01:25
thumpbadaftykins: wouldnt 'ufw disable' turn off the fw and allow the server to listen on all ports01:25
daftykinsthumpba: i have told you to run 'netstat -tuln' if you could provide the output of that we could stop going around in circles with this conversation :)01:26
AenimaBeldar I'm going to do a fresh install with everything on home. Am I safe to erase the windows boot on SDA?01:26
wheatthinthumpba, depends on which profile you turn it off on01:26
Geowould a mdadm raid partition show up twice in fdisk?01:26
BeldarAenima, Hold on let me look at that script.01:26
thumpbadaftkins: i did run it http://hastebin.com/odadekaroc.hs01:27
thumpbaim used to centos and iptables stop to disable fw01:27
thumpbajust trying to do the same for this ubuntu system01:27
daftykinsthumpba: so there is nothing running on port 23.01:28
daftykinsthumpba: are you sure you're not meant to be thinking of SSH, not telnet...01:28
Geoah! here's the pastebinit issue- why does my resolv.conf keep resetting itself after each reboot?01:28
thumpbadaftykins: im sure....ssh is 2201:29
daftykinsGeo: because that's how it works :) check this out https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/01:29
BeldarAenima, THe windows install in sdc has all the correct boot info to boot without the sda1, however an easy test would be to put the HD windows is on forat to be read and se if it boots straight to windows.01:29
daftykinsthumpba: ok so what are you running on the first system that's trying to contact the other?01:30
BeldarAenima, Notice in that script that a HD can be changed as how they are read, windows shows as sdc there.01:30
AenimaBeldar in grub there are to entries for win 7, sda1 and sdb1 iirc. You mean SDB?01:30
AenimaTwo*01:30
daftykinsthumpba: also your output shows you put an IP after 'netstat -tuln' which is not what i asked for :(01:30
BeldarAenima, In the script it is seen as sdc is all, a anomaly of using a usb to boot ubuntu at times.01:30
thumpbadaftykins: shows the same http://hastebin.com/cajavebado.hs01:31
BeldarAenima, So boot the drive windows is on is what I mean, bypassing that sda1 windows boot just to make sure the windows boots without it.01:32
AenimaBeldar well it boots from both entries in grub.01:32
AenimaBeldar sda1 and sdb101:32
BeldarAenima, All I'm doing is covering the bases, I don't brick computers, anything can happen, I don't want you coming back saying windows does not boot now.01:33
Beldarlol01:34
ajlemkeI had a problem with low graphics mode a few weeks ago and some one told be to run a command to fix it.  I don't remember what it was and the problem is back again.  Anyone know how to fix this.01:34
AenimaBeldar understandable. I'm just going to drop 14.04 and reinstall 12.0401:35
Geoadding dns-nameservers to interfaces file should fix this then, right?01:35
daftykinsajlemke: did they get you to run something in the terminal?01:35
ajlemkedaftykins: Yes01:35
daftykinsajlemke: open the terminal and type "history" and read back until you find it01:36
AenimaBeldar not worth the headache I'm causing myself and others lol01:36
Geothere we go01:36
Geodaftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/748129701:37
Geonote how sde5 lives in the middle of sde201:38
daftykinsyou seem to have stumbled upon the kind of quirky setup your in-laws get you to look at one uneventful Christmas01:38
Geoso I know sde5 is swap, sde1 is / ... I am pretty sure 6 is my raid, but what is 2?01:40
daftykins2 is an extended partition01:41
daftykinsin the MBR spec, four partitions can be primary, but after that to have more, partitions have to be logical drives01:41
daftykinslogical drives only exist within an extended partition01:41
daftykinsso ultimately, 5 and 6 are within 201:42
daftykinsso there are only 301:42
Geoah01:42
Geowonder how that got there01:43
Geobecause clearly it wasnt me who did that01:43
Geo...01:43
Geoclearly.01:43
daftykinsit could've been auto01:43
daftykinsi'm puzzled as to why your single disk has a single partition claiming to be RAID however? :)01:44
Geoactually, yeah, I think I did choose auto partition when I built this01:44
Geoexcellent segue!01:44
daftykinswas this part of a RAID 1 setup and the other disk is dead?01:44
Geoso now, phase II - I'm adding a new, larger disk to the RAID 1 this is in, and want to partition it to match, only with larger partitions. I should duplicate this structure exactly then, correct?01:44
Geoexcatly re: partion #s01:45
Geonot size01:45
daftykinsi'm missing the start of the story01:45
daftykinsis this one disk from a RAID-1 pair, the other of which is dead?01:45
Geowell, removed01:46
Geostill alive, but upgrading the raid01:46
daftykinssooo, don't you have two new disks of the same size?01:46
ryhello, i have a ubuntu 14.04 system with a dm-crypted root disk.. -usually- prompts for password during the boot process to unlock itself. recently rather than prompting for a password it drops into a initramfs shell ("alert! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist"). i booted up with a live cd to verify everything was intact and I'm able to mount the /dev/sda3 with my password using cryptsetup luksOpen, but I can't figure out how t01:46
ryo get the install to work properly again (prompt me for a pw to decrypt root during the boot process) -- does anyone have any ideas/advice on how to proceed? (get ubuntu prompting me for a pw to unlock root on boot rather than not finding ubuntu--vg-root and dropping to a initramfs shell?) Thanks01:46
GeoI do have two new disks of the same size, this is the *old* disk of the smaller size.01:46
GeoI intend to mirror this to the new disk, then remove the old, and mirror again to the second of the new01:47
daftykinsGeo: that's a really nasty approach :) just setup the new pair then copy the data01:47
GeoI don't have the connectors for that01:47
daftykinsyou don't RAID-1 across differing disk sizes01:47
daftykinshow-so?01:47
daftykinsdon't have 4 SATA cables?01:47
GeoIDE in this case01:48
Geoand no01:48
daftykinsomw, did you steal this from a museum?01:48
_victorhola01:48
_victorbuenas noches sala01:48
Geoif you feel strongly about that, you are free to send me a new server01:48
_victorspanish?01:49
daftykinsGeo: i'm not familiar enough with mdadm setups,if this is one, to help any further really01:49
daftykins!es | _victor01:49
ubottu_victor: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:49
Geono worries01:49
GeoI am familiar, actually01:49
Geobut never seen this extended partition stuff01:49
daftykinsit's been true for a veeeeeeery long time01:50
daftykinsi learnt about primary DOS partitions, extended partitions and logical drives back in the Windows 3.11 and DOS era01:50
daftykinsbut anyway i'm off topic01:50
GeoYeah... I was A+ long ago as well01:50
Geohavent used that knowledge in a long time01:51
daftykinsGeo: but yeah you could just setup one of the new disks on its' own, copy the data, then i'm pretty sure you can setup an mdadm setup by telling it to clone to the second new disk then all will be well01:51
GeoI could, but then its using the small partitions still01:51
Geothat would be easy01:51
AenimaHow big does /boot need to be? Is 256mb fine?01:52
daftykinsAenima: is that you still mr.spiral?01:52
daftykinsi'd call a round 300MB plenty01:52
daftykinsGeo: nah i mean setup the first of the new disks with your intended partition sizes01:53
rypervencheAenima: It's more than enough.01:53
Aenimadaftykins indeed other PC is useless lol.01:53
Geodoesn't quite work that way01:53
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LinksEz2Does RDP pass sound?01:54
daftykinsthe protocol can yes, you need to enable it in your client01:54
GeoI can partition the full space on the disk, but mdadm will only track the smaller size until I can get both new disks in01:54
rypervencheAenima: So long as you don't keep a million kernels on your system, it's fine. Once you start getting a bunch you can manually uninstall the old ones and it will free up space in your /boot partition.01:54
GeoI'm trying to avoid re-assembling it twice01:54
Geothats the issue01:54
LinksEz2@daftykins tried it using remmina,  sound won't work local though.01:55
daftykinsGeo: i understand, though i have hardware RAID5s that took 18+hrs to build01:55
daftykinsLinksEz2: 'local' ?01:55
LinksEz2Gives me options for sound off, sound remote ( host system ) and sound local ( to the client )01:55
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Geo11 is my usual avergae time01:56
daftykinsLinksEz2: hmm, not familiar with that client01:57
AenimaNot sure why the partition manager in 12.04 install keeps skipping numbers for disks (eg sda1 sda3 sda5) hmm01:57
LinksEz2Didn't work in teamviewer or the other client i tried either.01:57
LinksEz2:(01:57
daftykinsLinksEz2: perhaps it's the other end... check the sound options once you're in01:57
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daftykinsGeo: i wonder if you can't just dd the whole lot and then resize later :D01:59
daftykinsanywho i must go now so i wish you luck01:59
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kompletelykrazy...02:06
kompletelykrazyanyone here?02:06
qin_Aenima: that's ok: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=17008502:07
Aenimaqin_ thx02:08
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Scandiskx02:11
ridethespiralWhy is Ubuntu using fglrx experimental on fresh installed?02:13
ridethespiral12.0402:13
phunyguymight be required for your card.02:13
grendal_primeanyone here set up novnc (html5 vnc client)  successfully?02:14
grendal_primeim having a hell of a time.02:14
ridethespiralWell I removed fglrx experimental and reinstalled normal fglrx and 12.04 is installed and working. I'm notbtouching 14.04 until I get a new laptop xD02:15
ridethespiralThanks everyone that tried to help me :)02:16
ridethespiralI will have more questions when updated and favourite apps are installed. (How to install 3.11 lowlatency driver for music production)02:17
Geook, got new disk 1 synch'ing02:21
Geoabout an hour, not too horrible02:21
Pr0jectRec0nQuick question - I had kubuntu on my HDD - now I got another SSD and installed elementary on it02:24
Pr0jectRec0nI want elementaryOS SSD to be the first to boot- instead it always goes to the HDD first (I guess the HDD is the master?) - how do I quickly change this?02:25
BeldarPr0jectRec0n, elementaryOS is not supported here try their channel or #grub02:26
Pr0jectRec0nbut ubunu/kubuntu is invoilved as well02:26
Beldar<Pr0jectRec0n> Quick question - I had kubuntu on my HDD, "had"02:26
Pr0jectRec0nand this isn't more about the OS..02:26
Pr0jectRec0nBeldar, I still have it - I just don;t want it to be the first to boot02:27
SierraARI'm running Ubuntu 13.04 in VMWare Player, and I'm having an issue with the sound not working. In the message log for VMWare, I'm seeing this: 'A device ID has been used that is out of range for your system. Sound will be disconnected.' Any idea on what could be causing that?02:27
daftykinsSierraAR: 13.04 is end of life, no support sorry02:28
BeldarPr0jectRec0n, You have a problem with your elementaryOS install kubuntu has nothing to do with it, elementaryOS is not supported here is all, just a channel rule.02:28
Pr0jectRec0nBeldar, I agree - but I thought my concern was more h/w oriented - you know master/slave setting in BIOS etc02:29
SierraARSorry, mistyped - It's 14.0402:29
Beldar!sound > SierraAR02:29
ubottuSierraAR, please see my private message02:29
BeldarPr0jectRec0n, If it is a master slave issue, and elOS is on the slave all you need to do is go to #grub and ask how to change the default boot, a slave will not boot is all.02:31
Pr0jectRec0nBeldar, nevermind - It was just boot-priority in my BIOS.. (not master/slave).02:32
BeldarCool02:32
ubentoboxHi there everyone, is there anyone that can point me to the changes in bind9 from distro 14.04 that would break it?02:34
SierraARHm.. Looking like this may be more an issue with vmware than ubuntu; Just noticed vmware is automatically disabling the virtual sound driver >.<02:35
nobiceHey guys02:37
nobiceI keep getting an sda1: WRITE FAILED Manually Zeroing error when trying to set up 14.04 on a VM02:37
holsteinnobice: what host? i would start there, i think02:38
nobiceHi holstein, what do you mean what host? (I'm totally new)02:38
nobiceOh02:38
nobiceI'm using VMware Workstation02:38
ridethespiralOk I've got 12.04 installed and working fine. How can I get the latest 3.11+ Linux-lowlatency kernel installed? The latest showing in synaptic is 3.2.0.61 lol02:40
nobiceIs 12.04 secure?02:40
ridethespiral(Trying to get an external recording interface up to par)02:40
holsteinridethespiral: there is no special ubuntustudio repo for it.. you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade" and get the latest there is.. otherwise, as i said you used a PPA02:41
ridethespiralnobice what do you mean secure? It is a lts02:41
nobiceOh okay02:41
nobiceWhen does it's LTS end?02:41
holstein!12.0402:41
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120402:41
nobiceOh got it02:42
nobiceThank you! :D02:42
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nobiceAny idea what an sda1: WRITE FAILED Manually zeroing error upon set up would be?02:42
ridethespiralHolstein I installed 12.04 studio and it came with 3.11 low latency. Vanilla comes with 3.8 general and I can only find 3.2 low latency. I'm so fucking confused02:42
holsteinnobice: something with the host setup02:42
holsteinridethespiral: we have no special repo..02:42
nobicehost meaning the VM I'm using?02:42
ridethespiralSigh.02:43
ridethespiralAlright02:43
holsteinridethespiral: did you run the commands i gave?02:43
holsteinridethespiral: you need the point release to get the latest.. and the commands i gave will upgrade you to that02:43
nobiceWhat's a host?02:43
holsteinridethespiral: if you literally just isntalled from an older 12.04 CD, and have not updated, just do so02:44
Beldarnobice, The OS vmware is running in02:44
Sohronnobice: host is the machine where you're running the vm on02:44
Sohronhaha02:44
nobiceHaha, nice02:44
ridethespiralHolstein invalid operation dist02:45
Sohronnobice: and the guest is the OS in the vm02:45
nobiceWell, I'm doing a fresh install on a blank state in VMware, and I'm running Win 7.02:45
holsteinridethespiral: please open only a terminal and run this.. "sudo apt-get update" then, report errors and let me know when it is finished..02:46
Sohronnobice: why not install 14.04? it is LTS too02:46
holsteinridethespiral: then, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and let me know when that is completed with no errors...02:46
nobiceSohron:That's what I'm trying to do :D02:46
nobiceI was just thinking, if this doesn't work out, I'll just use wubi to get 12.0402:47
Sohronnobice: ah, okay, i got the impression you were going for 12.0402:47
ridethespiralHolstein your initial command was missing the dash between dist-upgrade.02:47
nobiceSince I don't have the BIOS password02:47
nobiceand don't want to open up my 4 year old laptop02:47
ridethespiralHolstein 0 upgraded and 0 installed02:47
holsteinridethespiral: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.04release_notes#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.1102:48
holsteinridethespiral: we have *no* special sources..02:48
Beldarnobice, There is virtually no support for wubi, not a good idea.02:48
ridethespiralDaaaafuq02:48
allenhey all, first day running Ubuntu, can i customize this unity desktop at all like you can with say cinnamon or xfce02:49
nobiceBeldar: :( Where do I start looking for errors in my host?02:49
holsteinallen: yes, but its not cinnamon or xfce, and if you prefer the way they theme and customize, you may be happier with them02:50
Beldarnobice, No idea, I have never used vmware I use virtualbax if needed02:50
xanguaallen: then you wouldn't be using unity, you can install xubuntu-desktop for xfce02:50
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allenholstein, i am liking unity so far, it takes a bit of getting used to, but i'd like to make the bar more transparent and or Black, its kinda ugly blue right now02:51
ridethespiralOk installing 3.1102:51
ridethespiralGeneric. Hopefully it opens up low latency02:52
alleni'm used to mint tho, i was using cinnamon on that02:52
holsteinridethespiral: no.. the repos dont get "opened up" like that02:52
holsteinridethespiral: there is just the main ubuntu repos.. where we have all of our audio packages for ubuntustudio, and our kernel02:53
ridethespiralHolstein I did the command listed on the link you gave me and now it is installing g 3.11.. Why could t I find it in synaptic? See why I'm so confused? Lol02:53
ridethespiralBrain exploooosions02:53
ridethespiralI still don't see 3.11 low latency in synaptic, but I've got 3.11.0.20 general installed Holstein. I think I give up for tonight lol02:57
holsteinridethespiral: im still not convinced we shipped it..02:57
ridethespiralWhere's the tequila. >.<02:58
holsteinridethespiral: im pretty sure you didnt have it, or you added a PPA02:58
ridethespiralHolstein it was on my 12.04 studio install02:58
holsteinridethespiral: you should be running, and will want to sort out 14.04 ASAP02:58
ridethespiralI didn't add a ppa02:58
holsteinridethespiral: sure. and im saying, i dont believe it, is all02:58
SonikkuAmericaholstein: Check Synaptic maybe?02:59
ridethespiral14.04 HATES my laptop lol02:59
holsteinridethespiral: you did not determine that02:59
Beldar!lol | ridethespiral after about 500 of these.02:59
ridethespiral:/03:00
holsteinridethespiral: i still have a 12.04 ubuntustudio installation.. if you will wait, i will look.03:00
Beldarduh the bots message deleted, ridethespiral can you stop the lol's you have done them at people trying to help you.03:00
Beldarthis is not IM03:00
ridethespiralSorry habbit03:00
ridethespiralMy apologies...03:01
holsteinridethespiral: yes.. it looks like we did *not* rev the lowlatency kernel03:05
ridethespiralHolstein what do mean rev?03:06
holsteinridethespiral: i have 3.2.. you dont need 3.11.. maybe you had 3.11 generic installed.. and it was working "best" for you03:06
holsteinridethespiral: update/upgrade.. make newer.. bring up to a level that you want, or expect03:06
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SonikkuAmerica14.04 has Linux 3.1303:06
ridethespiralHolstein I had 3.11 low latency installed with 12.04 studio. Not sure how but I did. I mean I don't absolutely need 3.11 but 3.11 is the only kernel that seems to work with my second USB recording interface so it'd be nice03:07
ridethespiralGeneral is fine for playback but not realtime03:08
holsteinridethespiral: i have a USB device that works *better* with a generic kernel03:08
ridethespiral(As you known:p)03:08
SonikkuAmericaridethespiral: Did you install the linux-lowlatency package in 14.04 ? It's got kernel 3.13.x in it, should work fine if 3.11 worked with your recording interface03:08
holsteinridethespiral: you did *not* have a newer lowlatency kernel from the repos03:08
ridethespiralSonikkuAmerica I'm on 12.04. 14.04 was not working for me03:09
holsteinridethespiral: i do not  have it.. i have 3.2 in my stock 12.0403:09
holsteinridethespiral: if you want a newer lowlatency kernel, you'll get it from another source than the ubuntustuduio default sources, which are the ubuntu sources03:10
ridethespiralHolstein alright but just saying what grub showed me on every boot for many kernels. I'm not trying to argue or dismiss you but I'm telling the truth of what grime and uname -r showed03:10
holsteinridethespiral: i have it here, friend03:10
ridethespiralGrub*03:10
SonikkuAmericalol, grime - where did that come from03:10
SonikkuAmericaanywho03:11
holsteinridethespiral: its not the truth.. the truth is right here, on my machine, and yours03:11
ridethespiralI'm on my phone....03:11
holsteinridethespiral: you dont have it.. i dont have it.. we didnit make it03:11
ridethespiralSo the latest low latency possible is 3.2?03:11
holsteinridethespiral: no03:11
SonikkuAmericaWell what did he expect holstein ... he's got an LTS release with the 3.2 kernel...03:11
holsteinridethespiral: the latest is in 14.0403:11
qin_ridethespiral: You sure you did not make sneaky upgrade to Saucy? 3.11 was in 13.1003:12
ridethespiralSonikkuAmerica....03:12
holsteinridethespiral: as long as you understand why you are *never* going to find a more recent lowlatency kernel..03:12
holsteinridethespiral: the 12.04 lowlatency kernel version is at 3.203:12
ridethespiralqin_ I'm positive I was running 12.0403:13
SonikkuAmericaridethespiral: What? You get from me what holstein gave you. We maintain the *exact same* kernel version - no more, no less - than what came at KernelFreeze. In the case of 12.04, it was 3.203:13
qin_ridethespiral: unless it is a hoax, you may be wrong somewhere: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy-updates&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=lowlatency03:13
holsteinor, you added a PPA03:14
ridethespiralSonikkuAmerica are you talking about low latency or general03:14
holsteinridethespiral: *you* are talking about lowlatency03:14
ridethespiralI know I am03:14
holsteinridethespiral: we are commenting as such03:14
ridethespiralOk :p just checking heb03:14
ridethespiralHeh03:14
SonikkuAmericaridethespiral: Every single kernel we issue for an LTS release03:14
ridethespiralWell I'm uberly confused now03:15
SonikkuAmerica-generic, -lowlatency, -pullingmyhair and -theoddonethattheopsneverpayattentionto03:15
ridethespiralNot that i wasn't 5 hours ago :)03:15
ridethespiralI am paying attention...03:15
SonikkuAmericaRemains the same version number. If A.B.xyz, xyz may change for security patches, but A.B remains the same.03:16
SonikkuAmericaA = 3, B = 2 for 14.04.03:17
qin_SonikkuAmerica: B seems to jump up sometimes03:17
qin_or maybe not.03:18
SonikkuAmericaqin_: On a point release, you can install a new stack, that's for sure03:18
nobviceBeldar: How can I go into seamless mode with Virtualbox?03:18
ridethespiralSonikkuAmerica you say 14.04 ships with 3.2.xyx BUT it was just mentioned above that 14.04 comes with 3.11.03:18
Locke2002What's a good cli text editor that can reload from disk, something simple like nano preferred?03:18
SonikkuAmericaridethespiral: No, I said *12*.04 shipped with 3.2.x. 14.04 comes with 3.13.03:19
holsteinridethespiral: dont overthink it.. if you want a newer lowlatency kernel, you'll want 14.04, or add whatever kernel manually, or PPA.. we dont provide one for 12.0403:19
ridethespiralYou said a = 3 b = 2 for 14.0403:20
ridethespiral:p03:20
SonikkuAmericaOh derp. I STILL MEANT 12.04 !!03:20
SonikkuAmericaoauhwrogubsierughpiusebrglibwseorugboahwerbgihqbwrpithqaewrt ridethespiral03:20
SonikkuAmericaI is a hummin' bean03:20
Beldarnobvice, I'm not sure what seamless mode is.03:20
ridethespiralLol I'm already confused that just added into. I'm notna freaking Ubuntu guru03:20
qin_!cookie | SonikkuAmerica and some coffee03:21
ubottuSonikkuAmerica and some coffee: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:21
SonikkuAmericanobvice: Host+S03:21
SonikkuAmericaBeldar: Seamless mode, as its name implies, lets the guest OS run seamlessly inside the host OS. e.g. if I ran Windows XP in seamless mode over Windows 7, I'd see a Windows XP taskbar with full functionality on top of my normal taskbar.03:22
qin_Locke2002: in vim: set autoread03:23
SonikkuAmericaholstein: Whew! He's gone. Can we have a break? :D03:23
theodat_What did we miss03:24
SonikkuAmericaYou don't want to know.03:24
qin_theodat_: number game03:24
SonikkuAmericaA test of patience.03:24
theodatK03:25
qin_T03:26
remuxaso i'm using the ubuntu 14.04 minimal installer, how do i enable the 'free software only' option at the boot prompt?03:29
remuxa(i.e. it's not available and i've used it on normal installs)03:30
holsteinremuxa: you can try pushing f6 there, but, its minimal..03:30
holsteinremuxa: you should only be getting the minimal from that installer...03:30
remuxaso it doesn't automatically install restricted or multiverse packages?03:30
holsteinremuxa: correct. i mean, you get the kernel03:31
remuxaokay, thank you!03:31
theodat_Is there something I can download to get my fingerprint reader to work..?  Ubuntu 14.0403:35
theodat_Thinkpad X20003:36
holsteintheodat_: mayby not.. you can try other live CD's and see if a linux kernel supports it out-of-the-box.. otherwise, there may just not be support for the device03:41
theodat_Thanks.  No that important but was something to try to get to work03:42
ridethespiralholstein, thanks for the help03:45
ridethespiralholstein, idk why grub would say i had 3.11 low latency but ehhh.. I'll just use general03:45
ridethespiral90% of the use of my usb interface is for listening. Rarely use realtime monitoring, and I can use win 7 with the rme babyface for actual hardware monitoring03:46
ridethespiralI was just frustrated03:46
RejunHelp ayuda-03:58
RejunComo Tengo una gran problema03:58
Rejuncon una iso03:58
Rejunen linux03:58
Rejunayuda pleasee!03:59
RejunTengo una gran probolema03:59
Rejuncon una iso03:59
Rejunrequiero instalar la iso en un pendrive para bootear03:59
Rejuninstale el winusb y selecciono la unidad me sale error03:59
Rejuny no instala03:59
Rejunexit code 25604:00
Beldar!es | Rejun04:00
ubottuRejun: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:00
Rejungracias04:00
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lotuspsychjemorning to all04:08
ridethespiralhi lotuspsychje04:09
ridethespiral:)04:09
ridethespiralgood evening04:09
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: have you been able to fix your 14.04?04:09
ridethespiralnoooooooooooo04:09
ridethespiralI'm back to 12.0404:09
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: whats happening?04:09
ridethespirallotuspsychje, it freezes upon login04:09
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: is it a laptop or desktop?04:10
ridethespirallaptop04:10
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: so we cant try another graphics card04:10
ridethespirallenovo y560, "nehalem" core i5, with switchable gfx04:11
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: can you pastebin lshw -C video for me plz?04:11
ridethespirallotuspsychje, core i5 gfx works, radeon is becoming defective so I have disabled it for the last two years04:11
ridethespiralone moment04:11
ridethespirallotuspsychje, run with sudo?04:11
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: works both04:12
ridethespirallshw -C doesn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/7481736/04:13
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: lshw -C video04:13
somsipAny particular reason why nvidia-current points to nvidia-304 but there is also nvidia-331? Which should be used?04:15
ridethespiralhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7481749/04:15
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-30404:15
ubottunvidia-304 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.117. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.117-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 19895 kB, installed size 90133 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)04:15
ridethespirallotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7481749/ I've already disabled the radeon with an acpi_call module04:15
ridethespirallotuspsychje, or else my laptop runs super hot (~80C) did this when the radeon actually worked04:16
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-33104:16
ubottunvidia-331 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-331): NVIDIA binary driver - version 331.38. In component restricted, is optional. Version 331.38-0ubuntu7 (trusty), package size 27050 kB, installed size 128804 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)04:16
somsiplotuspsychje: I would expect there to be one, current, support version...04:16
somsip*supported04:16
lotuspsychjesomsip: current, will install the legacy driver04:16
somsiplotuspsychje: 'legacy' denoting what in this context? Wider support for old cards?04:17
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: so you tryed to install trusty on the intel integraded graphics right04:17
lotuspsychjesomsip: not sure, but i think current might work better in most cases04:17
ridethespirallotuspsychje, I've tried both with "discreet" and "switchable" gfx modes in bios04:17
ridethespirallotuspsychje, both with same outcome04:18
lotuspsychjesomsip: but switching drivers can be a good idea, when problem occur04:18
lotuspsychjesomsip: what does additional drivers show in list?04:18
somsiplotuspsychje: ok. Doing an install from minimal and tried *-331 last night and ended up with loads of unwanted packages. I'll try again with current04:18
lotuspsychjesomsip: what does ubuntu install by default with internet connection during setup?04:18
ridethespirallotuspsychje, after many many hours of reinstalling ubuntu versions, I'm about ready to just stick with the working 12.04 :)04:19
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: there are new intel graphics drivers setup for ubuntu, lemme find link04:19
ridethespirallotuspsychje, any advice is appreciated04:19
somsiplotuspsychje: on minimal install, not sure but nothing special. Back in 12.04 right now04:19
somsiplotuspsychje: I'll try *-current and play. Thanks for the info04:19
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: check this out: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/intel-linux-graphics-driver-installer-1-0-504:19
lotuspsychjesomsip: good luck!04:20
somsiplotuspsychje: cheers - bfn04:20
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: i think why unity freezed on trusty for you, was because of not right intel drivers04:20
ridethespirallotuspsychje, so do I install this to my live usb (with persistance file) and then resume with the install?04:21
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: did you setup trusty with 'updates' enabled during install? and install third party software?04:21
ridethespirallotuspsychje, yes both04:21
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: no, the intel drivers should be tryed after trusty install04:21
ridethespirallotuspsychje, how would I do that if it freezes? :(04:21
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: or try them from 12.04 then upgrade maybe?04:22
ridethespirallotuspsychje, I'm sooo iffy on doing any other installs right now heh. I've been in this channel for 5 hours now and 3 installs later :P04:22
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: have you been able to install with nomodeset?04:23
ridethespirallotuspsychje, I was able to, but the display was only working @ 800x640 and unity was uber laggy04:23
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: if you find a way to install trusty and get to desktop04:23
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: we can lshw -C video again04:23
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: and try those new intel graphics from there04:24
ridethespirallotuspsychje, Okay. I will try that04:24
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ridethespirallotuspsychje, brb logging into irc on my phone04:25
lotuspsychje!find i91504:25
ubottuFile i915 found in libdrm-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri, linux-goldfish-headers-3.4.0-3, linux-headers-3.13.0-24, linux-headers-3.13.0-24-generic, linux-headers-3.13.0-24-lowlatency, linux-headers-3.4.0-3-goldfish, linux-image-3.13.0-24-lowlatency, linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic, linux-libc-dev (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=i915&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any04:25
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: after trusty installed, make sure you check wich driver loaded ok04:26
ridethespiralAlright reinstall #4 today here we go bahah.04:26
ridethespirallotuspsyche what's the command to do that04:26
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: its just finding the reason, lshw -C video04:26
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: what shows after driver=04:26
ridethespirallotuspsyche okay thought they were separate commands04:27
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: also always check software sources/last tab additional drivers04:27
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: in some cases alternative drivers show up there04:27
ridethespiralLotuspsyche in live USB boot or after install?04:29
ridethespiralBecause I can't after install04:29
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: nomodeset install again right, and try after install04:29
ridethespiralLotuspsyche in 12.04 I install fglrx then disable the radeon04:29
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: ?04:30
ridethespirallotuspsyche, of course... Derp04:30
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: disable radeon before you install right04:30
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: you dont want drivers fighting each other04:30
ridethespirallotuspsyche I always disable after install on 12.0404:30
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: thats not good, disable from bios before install04:31
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: maybe thats the reason why it freezes04:31
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: you want the intel driver loaded right, not radeon04:31
ridethespiralLotuspsyche bios gives "discreet" (radeon default) or switchable (Intel default) I use switch able for install but it still powers up the radeon (HOT HOT laptop) so I disable it04:32
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: can you disable the radeon completely from bios?04:33
ridethespirallotuspsyche hope that makes sence04:33
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: if its broken, you should disable once and for good right04:33
ridethespiralLotuspsyche those are the only two options so I'll say no04:33
davido_Where should I start my investigation into why suspend mode doesn't complete in my desktop system? (14.04)04:33
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: that might be a question for the ##hardware guys, how that switchable thing works, never seen that before04:34
ridethespiralLotuspsyche I'm booted into 14.04 nomodeset shall I go ahead with install?04:34
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: and you set radeon off right?04:34
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: to intel default04:35
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: then you may proceed04:35
ridethespirallotuspsyche I'm positive with switchable enabled it defaults to Intel ( or I'd get the glitches because there is something wrong with radeon) I know these are not prime conditions but 12.04 works fine04:35
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: ok, im curious wich drivers trusty will load :p04:36
ridethespiralI'd use vgaswitcheroo before the radeon broke04:36
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: what is that?04:36
ridethespiralPlugged in an HDMI cord one day and it broke the radeon (was usingnwindows)04:36
lotuspsychjedavido_: what laptop brand is this?04:37
ridethespiralLotuspsyche a module to switch between the radeon and Intel when needed04:37
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: from ubuntu?04:37
ridethespirallotuspsyche yes04:37
* davido_ reads back to make sure he said desktop. ;) ...It's a Gateway desktop.04:38
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: well, as the radeon broke i think its not a good idea to switch anymore04:38
lotuspsychjedavido_: oh sorry04:38
ridethespirallotuspsyche indeed, thus why I disable the radeon with an acpi_call module.04:38
davido_I have a suspend option.  When I select it, the system starts to go into suspend mode, but ultimately ends up at a blank black screen and never suspends.  Only way to set things right is to power-cycle.04:39
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: ok, so next things to do: get on your trusty desktop and lshw -C video04:39
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: then we investigate if correct driver loaded04:39
ridethespiralLotuspsyche when I'm done the install I'll give you a link to the lshw -C video04:39
agent_whiteGood evenin all04:39
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lotuspsychjeagent_white: welcome mate04:40
davido_Was that for me?04:40
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lotuspsychje!who | davido_04:40
ubottudavido_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)04:40
ridethespiralLotuspsyche can using the same /home partition without formatting cause issues ( was mentioned to me)04:41
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: i would start over fresh04:41
ridethespiralOw ow ow04:41
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: no left over from previous installs04:42
ridethespiralLotuspsyche my buddy has my ext HDD so I can't back up04:42
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: you got all your files on 12.04 now?04:43
ridethespiralLotuspsyche can I do a small 5gb home partition on the ssd just to test as fresh install04:43
ridethespiralLotuspsyche my /home is on a separate HDD then ubuntu04:43
lotuspsychjeridethespiral: sure,04:44
lotuspsychje!info uswsusp | davido_ maybe this package can help?04:44
ubottudavido_ maybe this package can help?: uswsusp (source: uswsusp): tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0+20120915-4ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 136 kB, installed size 516 kB (Only available for amd64; i386; powerpc)04:44
AlienwarezHo do I access an filesystem ext4 flagged Primary partition?04:45
AlienwarezThe system recognize like bad blocks04:45
davido_lotuspsychje: Thanks. I'll have a look.04:45
AlienwarezI can access the device04:45
{IrishBull}good evening folks04:45
Alienwarezsomeone can help me, please?04:45
lotuspsychjedavido_: maybe also check your logs for relevant errors04:45
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | Alienwarez04:46
ubottuAlienwarez: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14-2 (trusty), package size 534 kB, installed size 1269 kB04:46
Alienwarezok04:46
Alienwarezi will test04:46
Alienwarezcheck the logs bro04:46
AlienwarezError mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,04:46
Alienwarez       missing codepage or helper program, or other error04:46
Alienwarez       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try04:46
Alienwarez       dmesg | tail  or so04:46
unopasteAlienwarez you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted04:46
AlienwarezI uderstand04:48
AlienwarezBut04:48
AlienwarezI have data inside the device04:48
Alienwarezi would backup it before rewrite04:48
lotuspsychjeAlienwarez: always backup :p04:48
{IrishBull}Dropbox is free dude, backup always!04:49
Alienwarezman, the device are a pendrive!04:49
Alienwarezi need access the data first04:49
AlienwarezI need mount it04:49
lotuspsychjeAlienwarez: you can recover data with photorec (from testdisk)04:49
{IrishBull}whats it doing, or not doing should I say?04:49
agent_white"Real men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it." - Torvalds04:49
Alienwareztestdisk doesn't work04:50
{IrishBull}+1 for agent_white04:50
Alienwarez+2 for agent_white04:50
agent_white\o/04:50
{IrishBull}Anyone ever try to put Ubuntu on a HTC Inspire phone?04:50
Alienwarez+2 for agent_white04:50
Alienwarezfuck04:50
{IrishBull}not here04:50
Alienwarezthere some flag to mount an Primary Partition device?04:51
{IrishBull}I've installed Ubuntu on my PC and have fallen in love with it, thinking of putting it on my phone too04:51
norviceAnyone familiar with VirtualBox?04:51
Beldarnorvice, #vbox is04:51
norviceThe screen is stuck at like 600x60004:51
norviceThanks :D04:52
crfhi. Liferea doesn't seem to work. A window won't open when I run the program. Any suggestions?04:52
Beldar!touch | {IrishBull}04:52
ubottu{IrishBull}: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch04:52
{IrishBull}Ok, how the heck do I get the joins and quits to show up in the status window instead of my active window dangit04:52
davido_Now I've at least got some error messages in front of me that I can look at. ;)04:53
Beldar{IrishBull}, probably in the preferences of the IRC client.04:53
crfThe liferea process is running, but nothing happens.04:53
davido_suspend/resume failure. "KernelOops"04:53
crux_anyone here have much experience with yakuake04:53
{IrishBull}There, sheesh04:54
Beldar!info yakuake04:54
ubottuyakuake (source: yakuake): Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.9-1 (trusty), package size 333 kB, installed size 2014 kB04:54
Beldarcrux_, State the issues for help.04:55
crux_I changed the appearence to not show the bottom border and now I cannot get into the "configure" options04:56
crux_I purged yakuake but when I reinstalled it, the configuration is still present04:56
Beldarcrux_, Look to see if there is a file with it's name in .config in home, ctrl-h to show hidden files04:57
ridethespiralLotuspsyche do you want the lshw output before or after I do anything04:57
ridethespiralLotuspsychje damn this lack of tab on phone. See above04:58
ridethespiralLotuspsychje paste.Ubuntu.com/7481843/05:00
crux_Beldar, I opened dolphin and in the /home dir I pressed ctrl-h but I do not see aa yakuake *.config05:00
novibeBeldar, why is the vbox screen so tiny05:00
Beldarcrux_ you opened .config and looked for yakuake?05:01
Beldarnovibe, I forget the name of the additional driver pack for better resolution....etc, been awhile since I used it.05:03
agent_whiteHey folks! I'm trying to add a folder of Ruby scripts to my path, so I can execute them by calling the file name alone in a terminal. Following http://askubuntu.com/questions/97897/add-bash-script-folder-to-path but have no luck (even tried bash scripts instead of Ruby scripts, but got nothing!). Any help appreciated!05:04
agent_whiteOoo wait. May have found the answer!05:06
agent_whiteSo, answer is that if you add a folder of scripts to your PATH, and you start your scripts the right way (#!/bin/bash or #!/usr/bin/env ruby), you need to remove the extension (.sh or .rb) from the file name.05:07
agent_whiteOddly enough...05:07
agent_whiteWierd stuff.05:07
novibeWell.05:07
novibeFinally got everything work.05:07
davido_How were you invoking them?05:07
agent_whitedavido_: Me or novibe?05:08
agent_whiteShould write "USERNAME: How were you invoking them?" so we know who you're talking to.05:08
davido_agent_white: I've been in/out of channel.  Just caught what you said about removing the extension.05:08
davido_agent_white: Yes, I know... just keep forgetting05:09
agent_whitedavido_: Oh me! ;D I was invoking them just by calling the script name without the extension.05:09
padhuIs minimum hardware requirement web page is updated recently? What is ithe minimum system requirement for Ubuntu 14.04?05:09
agent_whitedavido_: Now that you point that out... If I leave the scripts with their extension, I need to call the full name with extension to invoke. Thank you for making me thinkg about it!05:10
davido_agent_white: Yeah, I was trying to figure out what a path entry had to do with .extensions.  Seems more like a windows way of doing things. :)05:11
agent_whitedavido_: Hahah nah I'm on Linux! ;)05:11
agent_whiteBut thank you again, never would have thought about that!05:12
davido_Now to the general audience: I still have a suspend/resume failure, but now have the "Sorry, ..." box in front of me after restarting, and may be able to provide more info if I know what might be useful information.05:12
Beldarpadhu, What does the page say?05:12
agent_whitedavido_: Failure to come back from a suspend?05:13
davido_Well, it's a failure to complete the suspend sequence, which also makes it impossible to resume.  power-cycle is the only solution.05:13
agent_whitedavido_: What happens when you suspend?05:13
davido_agent_white: When I suspend, the screen goes black, but the power light on the desktop stays lit, and if I look at the back, I still see the lan adapter's LED flashing, Bluetooth dongle flashing, and fans operating.05:14
padhuIt need 700MHZ speed processor and 512 MB ram, It is shows form 6.06 only change is 373MB ram to 512 MB RAM05:14
davido_agent_white: At that point it's unresponsive.05:15
agent_whitedavido_: Check out /var/log/pm-suspend.log05:15
agent_white`cat /var/log/syslog | grep PM:`05:15
davido_agent_white: got it in front of me now05:15
agent_whitedavido_: Toss it in a pastebin/gist and lets take a look!05:16
davido_agent_white: Is there a preferred pastebin?05:16
q_p!ping me05:16
agent_whitedavido_: I was just thinking about that... some people bitch about one of 'em for ads, I can't remember.05:16
davido_hmm... now what was that clip command? :)05:17
agent_whitedavido_: paste.pm seems alright!05:17
Beldarpadhu, this is updated, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements same one you see I believe. Really depends on what you plan to be running, that min I would not put more than lubuntu myself at the most.05:17
duallyIs there any reason to not use the official handbrake-cli in Ubuntu 14.04?05:18
davido_agent_white: http://paste.pm/gkl.js05:18
q_phttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7481905/ Im using ubuntu 12.04 lts 64bits05:20
padhuBeldar: I am using ubuntu from 6.06, nothing else. My system is nearly 7 years old. I am not updated  from 12.04. Hence, it is necessary to double check the minimum system requirement to switch over to 14.04.05:20
Beldarpadhu, Good plan, always be prepared.05:21
davido_agent_white: Did you get my paste?05:21
agent_whitedavido_: Yup I'm looking it over now... wondering if this could be similar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196961505:22
daleiciousCONNECT  irc.aresgate.net 669705:22
padhuBeldar: yeah. Intel core2duo, 4gb RAM, 1GB dedicated graphics card.05:22
agent_whiteSomething that may be keeping it from going to suspend... like a SD card plugged in or otherwise.05:22
agent_whitedavido_: Also anything plugged into the USB ports.05:23
cfhowlettpadhu older hardware likes lubuntu or possibly xubuntu.  the former is optimized for older / lower specifications05:23
Beldarpadhu, I have less and have no problem, helps to have a SSD, that should be fine.05:23
agent_whitedavido_: `cat /proc/acpi/wakeup` Lists all the devices that are able to wake the system...05:23
davido_A bluetooth adapter, mouse, keyboard, and the UPS usb link.05:23
padhuBeldar: SSD? what is the capacity? How will it useful? please explain more05:24
davido_agentwhite: GBE, EUSB, USBE, PEX0, PEX1.05:24
Beldarpadhu, solid state hard drive, no spinning parts.05:24
davido_cryptic names. :)05:24
Beldarpadhu, Mine is 256 gigs I thin05:24
Beldarthink*05:25
padhuBeldar: Next step to upgrade my PC?. It is worthy with my hardwares?05:25
agent_whitedavido_: `echo (GBE,EUSB,USBE,PEX0,PEX1...etc) > /proc/acpi/wakeup` to toggle the state05:25
agent_whiteYou make need to be root to run, otherwise `echo (GBE, EUSB...etc) | sudo tee /proc/acpi/wakeup`05:26
Beldarpadhu, Upgrade meaning a fresh install should be fine, but as suggested there is xubuntu and lubuntu as I mentioned. Download the live ISO and try it out.05:26
agent_whitedavido_: Try doing that for all those devices, disable them, and then try to suspend :)05:27
davido_I must be typing that wrong.05:27
agent_whitedavido_: You're not including the backtics, right?  And what's it doing?05:27
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davido_With the backticks, command substitution: line 1: syntax.....05:28
padhuBeldar: I am going to fresh install, no doubt. Because i have enough experience.I had applications out of official repo too.05:28
agent_whitedavido_: Paste here what you typed in05:28
davido_agent_white without backticks: bash: syntax error near unexpected token GBE,05:28
Beldarpadhu, Mainly you want a supported OS in the end.05:29
davido_agent_white: Paste: echo (GBE, EUSB, USBE) |sudo tee /proc/acpi/wakeup05:29
davido_(turns out those were the only three actually "enabled"05:29
agent_whitedavido_: Oh! I meant you need to do `echo...` for each of those.  Otherwise to toggle all at once, try `echo -e 'GBE\nEUSB\nUSBE' | sudo tee /proc/acpi/wakeup`05:30
agent_whiteSorry about that! :P05:31
davido_agent_white: Ah! :) That makes more sense.  I thought you were using some bash syntax I was unfamiliar with.05:31
agent_whitedavido_: Nah I'm just not familiar with bash either! Hahaha! :P05:31
padhuBeldar: yes.05:31
padhuBeldar: only ubuntu05:32
davido_agent_white: Alright, all disabled.  wish me luck.  be back in a few...05:32
agent_whitedavido_: Getter done!05:32
Beldarpadhu, I have run pretty much every major linux based OS, ubuntu seems as good as any, they are all quite similar05:32
Beldargranted I did start my computer experiences with dapper05:34
padhuBeldar: I have different distros in my office, laptop, and home pc. All are ubuntu derivatives. I want ubuntu on my home. because, My son is playing studying with it.05:35
davido_agent_white: No joy.05:36
Beldarpadhu, Yeah the derivatives have gone bit wild, I have tried those to just as an interest, I generally have at least 4 OS on the HD.05:36
agent_whitedavido_: :( There could be more devices that need to be disabled... check the log file again to see what failed.05:36
davido_agent_white: I do get a "Sorry, Ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error.", the details for which include "ProblemType: KernelOops"05:36
agent_whitedavido_: After rebooting?  Or when it enters suspend?05:37
davido_agent_white after rebooting.05:37
padhuBeldar: In initial stage, I also had it. After while i always ride single horse, Ubuntu05:37
agent_whitedavido_: Ah that's no worry, just is yelling at us for using the power button to shutdown.05:37
Beldar;)05:37
agent_whitedavido_: Check those logs again to see what didn't get disables05:37
agent_whites/disables/disabled05:37
davido_agent_white: "Title: [Gateway DX4850] suspend/resume failure".... "Annotation: This occurred during a previous suspend and prevented it from resuming properly"05:38
agent_whiteWait where's that?  in the suspend log?05:38
davido_No, that's still in the "Sorry....." dialog popup on reboot.05:39
agent_whitedavido_: Oh don't worry about that, lets check out the suspend log.05:39
padhuBeldar: I am hardly sticking with ubuntu. For GIS use, I have little struggle. QGIS will not fullfill my requirement. Even though I am enjoying05:39
agent_whiteI enjoy archlinux :) I just find this channel more friendly than arch's for advice and help.05:40
Beldarpadhu, I have W8.1 and word for grad papers, not a bad OS really, rarely use it. Nice talking I have to go to work. ;)05:41
agent_whitedavido_: What button did you use to wake it up?05:41
somsip!find xsnap05:41
ubottuPackage/file xsnap does not exist in trusty05:41
somsip!find xsnap precise05:41
davido_agent_white: http://paste.pm/gkm.js05:42
padhuBeldar: me too. bye...05:42
ubottuPackage/file xsnap does not exist in precise05:42
davido_agent_white: When it fails to suspend, it becomes unresponsive; keyboard, mouse, power button all are unresponsive except when I hold the power down for 5s to force.05:42
agent_whitedavido_: So you try using the power button (single click) to resume?05:43
davido_Can't resume when suspend hasn't finished. :)05:43
davido_agent_white: After I select suspend and wait, say, a minute to ensure it's done everything that it can do to suspend, I find that a single click to the power button is ineffective, as is mouse clicks, movement, and keyboard thumping. ;)05:44
agent_whiteHmmm... So basically, everything is running except the screen is off, right?05:44
davido_agent_white: Apparently, though caps-lock is also ignored, so I assume input devices are not doing anything.05:45
davido_agent_white: I wonder if this could be related to a mounted network share.05:46
agent_whitedavido_: In that `cat /proc/acpi/wakeup`, lets disable ALL THE THINGS!05:46
agent_whiteIt could be...05:46
agent_whiteBut lets first try to disable everything in that list, and see what happens :D05:46
davido_agent_white: I did disable everything that was enabled last time around.05:46
lotuspsychjeagent_white: monkeydust helped a guy yesterday with some suspend app pm maneger or so?05:46
agent_whitelotuspsychje: I couldn't tell you, but if you remember you could tell davido_ ;)05:47
davido_(by the way, I know I've already surpassed my allotment of your time, and appreciate the assistance)05:47
lotuspsychjeagent_white: well i found that uswsusp tool, but there is another aswell05:47
lotuspsychje!info uswsusp05:48
ubottuuswsusp (source: uswsusp): tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0+20120915-4ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 136 kB, installed size 516 kB (Only available for amd64; i386; powerpc)05:48
davido_lotuspsychje: I did try usususp on your recommendation earlier. Same behavior.05:48
agent_whitedavido_: No worries! I'm curious about this too in case I see it in the future :)05:48
lotuspsychjedavido_: what does that tool do exactly?05:48
davido_lotuspsychje: Well, you type some command... s2ram, and it tries to put the system to sleep.05:49
davido_I had to run it as sudo, though I know it's supposed to work in userspace.05:50
lotuspsychjedavido_: maybe you can check dconf-editor settings for suspend options?05:50
lotuspsychjedavido_: i helped a guy yesterday with a suspend on clevo laptop, seemed like a bug with kernel05:50
davido_lotuspsychje: locate dconf-editor => /usr/share/app-install/desktop/dconf-editor:dconf-editor.desktop05:51
davido_Oh, I need to install it.05:51
lotuspsychje!info dconf-editor05:52
ubottudconf-editor (source: d-conf): simple configuration storage system - utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.0-1 (trusty), package size 97 kB, installed size 472 kB05:52
davido_lotuspsychje: Yes, it's installing now.05:52
davido_I usually just use vi for whatever I need to edit.05:52
davido_lotuspsychje: Ok, it's running.05:52
lotuspsychjedavido_: not sure where the energy options are in dconf05:53
davido_not sure what I should be looking for.05:55
lotuspsychjedavido_: try gnome > setiings-daemon > plugins > power05:55
davido_lotuspsychje Ok, I'm there.05:56
lotuspsychjedavido_: im in plugins/power and whole list of settings, not sure wich could fix05:58
lotuspsychjedavido_: try some out :p05:58
davido_lotuspsychje: There's nothing there that seems to be relevant.  Close, but not quite. :)05:59
hunthey guys05:59
hunti had a terminal opened in the background06:00
huntand suddenly, without any action on my behalf, it came into focus06:00
huntit wasnt running any proccesses06:00
huntalthough it was cd'd into the folder of a gamemode for a game i had quit ~2minutes earlier06:00
hunti think it was after i scrolled?06:00
huntshould i be worried about this?06:00
lotuspsychjedavido_: desktop/org/gnome/settings-deamon/plugins/power?06:01
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lotuspsychjehunt: you run vnc, or other remote control software?06:01
huntno06:02
lotuspsychjehunt: ssh?06:02
huntnope06:02
lotuspsychjehunt: ubuntu version?06:02
hunt14.0406:02
lotuspsychjehunt: no worries then :p06:02
huntok cool06:02
huntim already a little bit freaked out so it doesnt take much to spook me06:03
lotuspsychjehunt: if you keep your system up to date, you will be fine06:03
davido_lotuspsychje Org is top level, not under desktop. I was under org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power. There are many settings there. None of them are relevant.06:03
Ben64hunt: the simplest explanation is usually correct. you did something to make it come to the foreground.06:03
lotuspsychjedavido_: maybe try set them all to suspend, look what happens?06:04
darkxploithello guys06:04
huntben64, hands were off the keyboard, only scrolled06:04
lotuspsychjedarkxploit: hello mate06:04
agent_whitedavido_: I got disconnected. Any luck?06:04
huntalso, the game i had quit previously had crashed06:04
davido_agent_white: No.06:04
agent_white:(06:04
Ben64hunt: scrolling can make windows go the foreground06:04
darkxploitlotuspsychje, whats up ...06:05
huntben64 ah ok then its probably fine06:05
darkxploitANyone with experience on tunneling ssh through http proxies06:06
kostkonhunt: you can always check your logs. Easiest way to do that is to use the System Log app06:06
agent_whitedavido_: We may need to try to see what tools are out there... do you have hibernate?06:06
agent_white`sudo aptitude install hibernate uswsusp`06:07
davido_I already had uswsusp. I just installed hibernate.06:07
agent_whiteAlrighty! Lets try hibernate!06:07
davido_needs to be run as root...06:07
davido_here goes.06:07
davido_agent_white: Ok, the good news, and the bad news...06:09
davido_hibernate takes a snapshot, and then fails to hibernate (becomes unresponsive, as before). However, now when I power down and restart, it comes out of hibernation.06:10
davido_agent_white: I'm going to try unmounting that network share to see what happens...06:11
agent_whitedavido_: Hmmm... check out "Integrating uswsusp with pm-utils" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate06:12
agent_whiteExcept do `sudo tail -f /var/log/pm-suspend.log & sudo hibernate` instead for that second part.06:14
vahidhi all06:14
agent_whiteHeya06:14
vahidim install debian but cant login.how loging debian7??06:15
cfhowlettvahid ask in #debian.  this is ubuntu.06:15
vahiddebian no work for mi06:15
davido__agent_white: No change.06:16
cfhowlettvahid and it's not supported here.   choose wisely.06:16
bazhangvahid, its not supported here. this is ubuntu support only06:16
vahidcom on06:16
agent_whitedavido__: So... when you mean you 'powerdown and restart'... you're holding the power button for 5?06:16
bazhangvahid, join #debian for debian support06:16
agent_whiteAnd it comes back up as if it was actually suspended?06:16
vahidcant help mi?06:17
davido__agent_white: If I suspend, I eventually have to 5-second shutdown.  Then it comes up as a fresh start.06:17
bazhangvahid, /join #debian and get help there06:17
cfhowlettvahid we can help with ubuntu.06:17
jtreminioEvening all. I'm looking for the proper install command to automate ubuntu 14.04 server installation06:17
Nix\vahid: #debian-ir (iran)06:17
davido__agent_white: If I hibernate, I also eventually have to 5-second shutdown. But on cold-restart, it unhibernates.06:17
agent_whitedavido__: Ohhh! So the hibernate works (lights/fans shutoff, etc...) , but coming out of it doesn't?06:18
davido__agent_white: Not quite.....06:18
agent_whiteHmmm.06:18
davido__agent_white: Snapshot is taken.  But lights and fan stay on.06:18
davido__agent_white: Originally I used to dual-boot this machine, and my experience was that it would suspend correctly under Win. Nowadays it's full-time Ubuntu, and I haven't suspended it successfully in...um, as long as I can recall.06:20
davido__agent_white: but I never bothered with trying to get to the bottom of it until tonight.06:20
agent_whiteYeah shit... that's one of those things that should be working out-of-the-box. :(06:20
vahidim install back box how install virtuall box06:20
cfhowlett!vbox|vahid06:20
ubottuvahid: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox06:20
agent_whitedavido__: I'm going the tools route atm... looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line  and  http://www.itworld.com/software/415653/shut-down-restart-suspend-or-hibernate-dash-ubuntu-140406:21
davido__I think vahid is just trolling.06:21
vahidinstall but not working error06:21
cfhowlettvahid what is the output of lsb_release -a06:21
agent_whitedavido__: Try the first link first, so we don't have to check out this shoddy repo first ;P06:21
lotuspsychjevahid: you have been told not asking about debian here06:21
agent_whiteActually, maybe we should just skip the second link entirely ;P06:22
vahiderorr not install kernell06:22
Nix\vahid: /join #debian-ir, you are from Iran and #debian-ir is the iranian channel for debian iran users06:22
cfhowlettvahid your error is you are asking for help with debian and we're not going to help you unless you use ubuntu.06:22
linuxdragonwhat's go in on people06:22
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agent_whitelinuxdragon: \o06:23
vahidback bux not ubuntu??06:23
cfhowlett!flavors|vahid06:23
ubottuvahid: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.06:23
cfhowlettvahid if it's not one of the above, we don't support it.06:23
Nix\vahid: you read me?06:23
vahidya nex06:23
vahidnix how install virtuall box in back box06:24
Nix\vahid: لمستخدمي ديبيان إيران06:24
linuxdragonwhy can't I get ubuntu 13.10 to play dvd;s06:24
Nix\حاجه / الانضمام # ديبيان الأشعة تحت الحمراء، وأنت من إيران و# ديبيان الأشعة تحت الحمراء هي القناة الإيرانية لمستخدمي ديبيان إيران06:24
cfhowlettvahid download one of the ubuntu flavors.  install it.  THEN we can help.  we WILL NOT HELP with back box linux so stop asking.06:24
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lotuspsychjelinuxdragon: did you try vlc?06:24
cfhowlett!english06:24
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList06:24
linuxdragonyes06:24
davido__agent_white: I'm going to try the pmi method now.06:24
vahidim persian not arabian06:25
Nix\cfhowlett: vahid is from Iran.- He don't understand me obviously.06:25
lotuspsychjelinuxdragon: what happens when you try play a dvd with vlc?06:25
Nix\vahid: Ok, the IP is from Iran.06:25
Nix\persia is iran..06:25
vahidhow06:25
linuxdragonit just giv's me a 404 err06:25
Nix\vahid: join to #debian channel06:25
Nix\debian is not Ubuntu06:25
vahiddebian not worked06:26
lotuspsychjelinuxdragon: you install your graphics driver and installed codecs?06:26
Nix\re ask vahid06:26
Nix\try again06:26
vahidok by06:26
Nix\or install Ubuntu06:26
citrixkar diya06:26
davido__agent_white: "pmi action whatever" just produces: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files06:27
agent_whiteAhhh shit06:28
davido__Whatever the F that means. ;) haha06:28
agent_whitedavido__: What about the "dbus" one?06:28
vahidim install back box06:28
vahidback box is ubuntu or debian??06:29
cfhowlettvahid go elsewhere.  no help for you here.06:29
cfhowlettvahid it is NOT ubuntu.06:29
Ben64vahid: its not ubuntu so it is not supported here, check the website you got it from for support options06:29
vahidway??back bux is ubuntu12.406:29
cfhowlettvahid it is not.  IT IS NOT.06:29
vahidnix hi06:29
cfhowlett!flavors  READ06:30
cfhowlett!flavors06:30
ubottu!Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.06:30
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agent_whitedavido__: Hahah exactly! That's just an error on top of an error... we'll go onto http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line/131022#13102206:30
vahidhow install virtuall bux in back box06:32
agent_whitevahid: Step 1) You put your virtual in the bawks..06:32
Ben64vahid: please listen. we can't help you. you are not using ubuntu.06:32
cfhowlettvahid I'll do it for you.  send me $10006:33
* agent_white slaps vahid around with a large trout06:33
davido_agent_white: I'm apparently beyond help too. :)  ...at least I listen though.06:33
packjamwhat's a back box?06:33
tony___hola! could anyone help me with a quick file permissions issue?06:33
Ben64tony___: can't tell until you ask06:33
bazhang!permissions | tony___06:33
ubottutony___: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions06:33
agent_whitedavido_: Shit... yeah I honestly have no idea at this point.06:34
tony___haha06:34
agent_whitedavido_: I would say to repost your question again, and see who baits it and can help :)06:34
tony___basically, while in root.. I do a chown -R tony dir/06:34
davido_Ok, so the question:.........06:34
tony___and a chmod -R 666 dir/06:35
tony___but when I exit to user tony06:35
tony___I still can't access06:35
* agent_white graps soapbox for davido_06:35
davido_If I suspend, by any means known to man, my screen will go black, the keyboard and mouse become unresponsive, but the lights and drives remain on.  The power button will also not help, except to hold it for five seconds and shut down, restart the system.06:35
davido_agent_white: ^^ Does that about cover it? :)06:36
Ben64tony___: pastebin "ls -ld dir/"06:36
qin_tony___: and what does: ls -l  dir/; shows?06:36
tony___when I do ls -l dir/ as root06:36
tony___ls -l hosts/06:37
tony___total 9473206:37
tony___-rw-r--r-- 1 tony tony 32322411 May 18 02:02 192.168.1.102.log06:37
tony___-rw-r--r-- 1 tony tony 37365412 May 18 01:18 192.168.1.107.log06:37
Ben64tony___: wait a sec, chmod 666? you really should read more about linux permissions before doing stuff :) you need +x on directories in order to use them properly06:37
ax9How to install GIMPShop on Ubuntu?06:37
agent_whitedavido_: + "Moving mouse, tapping keys, tapping power, closing lid have NO effect to resume from suspend." ;D06:37
Ben64tony___: also, pastebin, not paste in the channel. try keeping your lines to a minimum here06:37
cfhowlett!info gimpshop06:37
ubottuPackage gimpshop does not exist in trusty06:37
davido_agent_white: AND: the log ends with "performing suspend"06:37
davido_but the system stays powered- on,06:38
tony___ugh.. that was it.. I needed a 706:38
packjamback box, gimpshop all stuff I've never heard of before06:38
ax9See? There is no such package.06:38
agent_whitedavido_: Yup! :D To be honest, this pretty much deserves a post on the Ubuntu boards when you get it solved to help out any other lost souls...06:38
tony___I figured just for looking and adding files I could just do read and write06:38
tony___didn't realize directories needed execute06:38
agent_whiteIt's one of those most basic functions that are catastrophic to debug when not working.06:38
davido_Over the past "forever", I've always been hoping that the "send report" would finally get some attention. ;)06:38
aeon-ltdax9: gimp does have a single window mode, is that close enough for you?06:39
Ben64tony___: you should be much more careful with a root shell06:39
cfhowlettax9 http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/06:39
ax9I can't get used to GIMP keys and interface, gimshop is kinda perfect for me.06:39
packjamdoes gimp support ps actions?06:40
ax9I try those two, didn't change anything, still gimp default.ui06:40
agent_whitedavido_: Yeah shit right?! :) Maybe it would be a good idea to see if your window manager has an IRC channel as well... like #gnome or otherwise. Just to open up some more streams for help if anything :)06:40
davido_unity?06:40
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davido_agent_white: The hardest thing is knowing that anywhere I go, I'm going to have to explain it all over again. :)06:41
ax9Ubuntu 14.04 bugs are fixed?06:42
agent_whitedavido_: I feel you there man... sometimes I have an editor open with my issue to mass copy-pasta to channels ;P06:42
davido_lol.  No, all bugs won't be fixed until 14.05.06:42
agent_white_eventually_ someone will come along that knows just what you are dealing with :)06:42
cfhowlettax9 you ARE aware that there's been no development for, oh, 7 years, right?>06:42
agent_whitecfhowlett: Wait what? Seriously?06:42
ax9Yeah, but its okay, i'll just get used to it.06:43
cfhowlettagent-white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop06:43
davido_7 years may as well be a lifetime.06:43
cfhowlettgimpshop released 05/17/06 - development on hold06:43
ax9!info scratch06:44
ubottuscratch (source: scratch): easy to use programming environment for ages 8 and up. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0.6~dfsg1-5 (trusty), package size 29199 kB, installed size 45673 kB06:44
agent_whitecfhowlett: Oh wow, I didn't read... I thought you were saying Ubuntu as a whole... but that _is_ surprising for GIMP.06:44
davido_scratch, pfffft... start 'em out in Racket and SICP, and it's sink or swim.06:45
cfhowlettagent_white gimpshop ain't gimp.  gimp is still in current development06:45
agent_whitecfhowlett: Oh... 'GIMP with turbo' I presume?06:45
ax9Gimpshop is gimp customized to look like adobe photoshop06:46
cfhowlettagent_white never used gimpshop.  ancient software's tend not to do well over time06:46
agent_whitecfhowlett: Well put ;)06:46
agent_whiteax9: Aye, that's what I mean by my comment.06:47
agent_whiteBut if you have bugs with it, and want to use it, become a contributor!06:47
ax9I gonna give Inkscape a try, should be enough for making long shadow icons.06:47
davido_agent_white: I'm going to have to tinker with bios settings someday, and hope not to brick the system. ;)06:47
agent_whitedavido_: It's hard to brick it, since generally when you update the BIOS you are shitting bricks already. ;D06:48
packjamafter using 5 distro's I am back to ubuntu-studio again06:48
Ben64agent_white: watch the language in here06:48
agent_whitedavido_: But, I still maintain "If it ain't broken, don't fix it!"06:48
agent_whiteBen64: Sorry about that!06:48
ax9!info xfce4 xfce4-goodies06:49
ubottu'xfce4-goodies' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed06:49
davido_agent_white: I *may* just push all my git repos, make sure my home is backed up, and do a clean install.06:49
ax9!info xfce406:49
ubottuxfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.1 (trusty), package size 4 kB, installed size 31 kB06:49
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agent_whitedavido_: I would be iffy about that... sounds like it could be a bit deeper than that.06:50
agent_whitedavido_: If I were you, I would probably said "fuck it, I'll just close the lid and hope it's charged." ;P06:50
davido_Yeah, probably so.  I think 13.10 was a clean install for me too, and I still had the problem then too.06:50
agent_whiteIt may very well be a kernel issue, needing to update or downgrade too..06:50
davido_agent_white: Well, it is a desktop, but yes.06:50
ax9Good software for web development?06:50
agent_whitedavido_: Oh shit! Then fuck hibernating! ;D06:51
agent_whiteBen64: Sorry, language.06:51
davido_I just leave it on 24/7.06:51
lotuspsychjeax9: lot of usefull dev tools in software centre06:51
agent_whitedavido_: Dude... then I'm wondering why you want to hibernate!06:51
davido_Well, all this has been to save myself $50/year in energy... and not even that... mostly just to get something that should be working, working.06:52
agent_whiteOhhhhhhhh!06:52
ax9lotuspsychje: there is a highlight syntax for html/css/js?06:52
davido_I use geany, ax9.06:52
agent_whiteGood point. I guess I'm one of the Linux users that always shutdown... I just feel badly for my RAM not being able to clear it's belly ;P06:52
davido_(when I want a gui-style editor that does syntax highlighting across a bunch of languages)06:53
agent_whites/it's/its06:53
ax9i feel bad for my hardware too :')06:53
apb1963ubuntu 12.04 - I changed something - I don't remember what and can't find it again.  Now instead of opening PDF files in chrome, it downloads them.  I looked through chrome settings, and system settings... but... I just can't find, or remember what I changed.  Any ideas?06:54
davido_agent_white: I'm going to have to get into that habit.  I work from home (Perl dev), and "always on" just works better with my workflow.06:54
purezenGuys, I am using 13.04, all updated.. However, it is running firefox 26 as of now and on checking it doesn't show any update for any later version (29 is the latest IIRC). Please help!06:54
xanguapurezen: you are using a no longer supported release06:55
bazhangpurezen, its eol, upgrade it06:55
ax9Why Gnome Keyring ask me for password when i open Chromium, every single time.06:55
bazhang!eolupgrades | purezen06:55
ubottupurezen: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:55
davido_ax9: For a light-weight gui editor that does decent syntax highlighting, geany, or bluefish (the latter is probably better for HTML)06:55
purezenxangua, bazhang Hey! Thanks guys.. Got that. Though, the LTS versions had some longer support periods.. Didn't they?06:56
purezenAnyways, I'll check. Thx :)06:56
agent_whitedavido_: Nah you're a dev, it's a good habit :)  I am/was a sysadmin, so I _should_ be in the same habit.06:56
xangua13.04 is not LTS06:56
bazhangpurezen, 14.04 is LTS06:56
apb1963purezen 12.04 and 14.04 are LTS.... but nothing in between06:56
ax9davido_: i just got geany, like it so far, just werks.06:56
davido_I find that leaving it on is conducive to "batting out a solution the moment I think of it."06:56
purezenbazhang, apb1963 Hmm.. Ok.06:57
davido_ax9: When I'm not using vi, it's geany, and I've been doing it that way for years.06:57
agent_whiteVery true. And having to resetup your environment is a bitch. (I use i3 and like my Windows in their pretty-places.)06:57
ax9agent_white: i3 is a tilling wm, right?06:58
agent_whiteax9: Yup!06:58
vahidhow install virtual box in back box06:58
agent_whitevahid: You can't.06:58
agent_white!next06:58
ax9!i306:59
bazhangagent_white, dont do that06:59
agent_whitebazhang: I was seeing if a bot had that scripted.06:59
cfhowlettvahid now you're just being silly06:59
agent_whitebazhang: But we're been trying to get rid of the troll for a couple hours now.06:59
davido_Actually, I can provision a new system in an hour or two... Install the OS, brew a non-system Perl, install a couple of DB's, pull in geany, and some familiar Perl modules, install Racket, g++, chrome, virtualbox, copy over a vb image for when I need to test under IE... done!06:59
bazhangagent_white, the !next is not helpful at all06:59
agent_whitebazhang: I would not direct it at a person that is not a troll.06:59
bazhangagent_white, just dont do it at all, thanks.07:00
agent_whitevahid is trolling. But understood, I won't.07:00
davido_He's just here to get a rise out of people.07:00
davido_oh, and git07:01
ax9A theme like Numix work on all WMs?07:01
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davido_Alright, it's past my bedtime. :) Thanks for the help, regardless of the outcome.  :)07:02
purezenSo, guys, how do I upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04? Will my data, settings remain preserved? What (if i.e.) shall I loose?07:04
cfhowlett!eolupgrade|purezen07:04
ubottupurezen: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:04
cfhowlettpurezen if you have a dedicated /home partition, settings should be retained.07:05
purezencfhowlett, Ok. Yeah, I have one.07:05
purezencfhowlett, That also means my browser history etc? Nothing will be deleted right?07:05
cfhowlettpurezen so long as you don't format the /home ...07:06
purezencfhowlett, Hmm.. Ok.07:06
davido_backups are always a good plan. :)07:06
purezenWill my Rails setup also work fine in that case? cfhowlett07:07
purezendavido_,  How do I do that?07:07
apb1963I imagine it depends on _which_ settings... I just got done modifying /etc/ld.so.conf and I have a custom cron file07:07
cfhowlett!backup|purezen07:07
ubottupurezen: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:07
cervoDoes anyone know what is the term for what I'm trying to do. I want to use a vpn connection but only for a vnc connection. I want all my traffic to go through default network interface.07:07
davido_I use duplicity.07:07
apb1963not to mention a variety of other changes to system settings07:07
bazhang!info etckeeper07:07
ubottuetckeeper (source: etckeeper): store /etc in git, mercurial, bzr or darcs. In component main, is optional. Version 1.9ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 26 kB, installed size 211 kB07:07
purezencfhowlett, davido_  Ok guys.07:07
cfhowlettpurezen never used rails.  unformatted /home should retain data and configs IF they are in /home.  Otherwise, don't plan on it.07:08
davido_some people also put their dot files under VC.07:08
davido_I've always considered that too much fiddling though.07:08
cfhowlettdavido ... until the FIRST time you nuke your data and configs, it IS too much trouble07:09
apb1963bazhang: timeshift is interesting for backing up system files... and aptik is also interesting for tracking the packages you've installed.07:09
purezencfhowlett, Hmm..07:09
apb1963i haven't tried duplicity or etckeeper though07:10
davido_duplicity is easy, and the one or two times I've had to pull something back from it, it's done what I've needed.07:11
apb1963davido_: can you select specific files to backup?  What about excluding dirs?07:14
davido_apb1963 You can configure folders to back up, folders to ignore, storage location, and scheduling.  And for retrieval, you may retrieve all or some parts.07:16
davido_ok, now i really must go. :)07:16
apb1963davido_: so you have to backup an entire folder... you can't just select inidvidual files?07:16
afidegnumanyone online please?07:20
bazhangafidegnum, yes of course07:20
afidegnumplease my apache seems paralyzed with this error: thumbs httpd not running, trying to start  =  no listening sockets available,- shutting down - Unable to open logs - Action 'restart' failed - The Apache error log may have more information.07:23
qin_apb1963: Having precious file and rubbish files in one folder somehow degradates idea of folder tree.07:23
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ridethespiralI installed 14.04 with nomodeset enabled and now it seems like my core i5 graphics drivers aren't installed. Anyone have some ideas?07:23
ridethespiralhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7482260/07:24
apb1963qin_: I don't need to backup an entire directory tree when I've only changed one file in it.07:25
ring3i07:25
ring3hi07:25
ring3i need vmlinux instead vlinuz07:26
emrahi have a weird problem there is no sound while listening music and watchin video  etc in my comp07:26
qin_apb1963: so you need to sync with back up only, right?07:26
apb1963qin_: immediate example:  I changed /etc/ld.so.conf   ... why would I need to backup all of /etc ?07:26
ring3ubuntu kernels are vmlinuz, how to obtain the vmlinux with symbols?07:26
supergauntletapb1963: What are you using for backup?07:26
supergauntletTar?07:26
supergauntletrsync?07:27
ring3how can i get the symbols from System.map and put into the vmlinux?07:27
rahuL__citrix, hii07:27
citrixmere pas bi time ni hota samje na07:27
apb1963qin_: I've never really understood synch.. it makes me nervous.  I never know what's going to flow in which direction... and I'm always afraid it will flow the wrong way.07:28
citrixha thik hai07:28
apb1963supergauntlet: in days gone by I used to use tar... but lately, nothing.  I'm still investigating.  I like the concept of timeshift, but it still needs work I think.07:29
apb1963supergauntlet: I started to investigate rsync and grsync.. but haven't gotten very far.  Kind of overwhelmed by all the info there is, and still have that nervous feeling mentioned above.07:30
agent_whiteDon't fret rsync. You should embrace it as default over scp.07:31
apb1963agent_white: scp?  I don't have a need for scp.  Just have one machine.07:31
agent_whiteapb1963: Ohhh wow, sorry. I ready "rsync" and "direction of flow" and assumed you were remotely transferring files.07:32
tataI use Ubuntu 10.4.4 , my totem player cant play mpg file, how to fix that?07:32
apb1963agent_white: np :)  I'm not entirely clear on everything..... have an extra disk... at least until my primary disk fails any day now :)07:34
apb1963timeshift seems to have made some copies... haven't tried to restore yet though.  Still something I need to test.07:35
ring3I need to debug the kernel with crash tool07:40
ring3is it possible to download the vmlinux precompiled with symbols?07:40
Nix\ring3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelTesting?action=show&redirect=Testing%2FKernelPPA07:43
ring3tx07:43
Jordan_Uapb1963: If you're familiar with git, etckeeper is great.07:45
Nix\https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot07:46
apb1963Jordan_U: I'm barely familiar with git.... I can clone something if given explicit directions to copy & paste :)  But I'm guessing that etckeeper is just for /etc ???07:47
B0r3dw15domhi friends, My firned is coming to my home with his pc (only cpu, not monitor or mouse )to get ubuntu installed, I am a bit busy so dont want to disconnect my pc, so is there any way i can connect his pc through router or lan???07:48
aeon-ltdB0r3dw15dom: i don't think you can do remote desktop on that kind of level07:50
aeon-ltdB0r3dw15dom: it's only 3 cables vga/dvi/hdmi + kb + m anyways07:50
Jordan_Uapb1963: It can be used anywhere, it's basically git (or your preffered RCS) plus additional permissions tracking and optional hooks (like make a commit after every apt/dpkg operation automatically). If you don't plan to learn git (which is an awesome tool), then etckeeper likely isn't for you.07:51
B0r3dw15domaeon-ltd thanks, but after installing ubuntu can i then connect it through router to install other softwares etc throuhg my pc07:52
Jordan_UB0r3dw15dom: There are various ways to automate installing Ubuntu, inluding setring up an ssh server in the install image, but connecting a keyboard and mouse will almost certainly be faster and easier.07:54
wolsB0r3dw15dom: you can. you just install/run openssh-server or vino. then you cann access your friend's PC over the network via ssh or vnc client07:54
apb1963Jordan_U: I used to use RCS back in the day... nice and simple.. though not actually for backup... for version control.  Not sure git is for me anytime soon.  Maybe eventually.  I need something simple that doesn't require too many brain cycles... I don't know why it's so hard to find a backup program that has basic feature.07:55
apb1963+s07:55
B0r3dw15domthnx a ton Jordan_U wols aeon-ltd07:56
dunkel2hello07:56
koellIs there a gui (gtk) filemanager with vim like keys?07:56
dunkel2how can i change the resolution to fit a small screen?07:57
koelldunkel2: open unity dash and enter settings07:57
dunkel2ty07:58
koell=)07:59
apb1963installing duplicity now... maybe it'll scratch my itch well enough... by the way... I started ##backup for anyone that would like to talk about backup things... programs, strategies, cloud services... whatever.08:02
helmut_hi08:02
Mikerhinosi'm trying to install lubuntu 14.04 on a really old comp, but can't boot live usb :s got a "via ircc device not available" message on splash screen, then black screen. I can access TTY1 and tried the nomodeset boot with no luck. Comp had ubuntu 11.10 before08:05
SECCRETun flood dam si noi ?08:07
wolsMikerhinos: if it's really old, can it do PAE?08:08
wolsor NX?08:08
wolsand if you can reach tty1 you have booted already, no?08:09
Mikerhinoswols: don't know what PAE or NX is :s08:09
wolsthose are features of your CPU08:09
wolswhat CPU is it?08:09
Mikerhinosit's a really old cpu, still 32bit 1 core08:09
Mikerhinosproblem seems to be the integrated vga08:10
wolsand what vga is it?08:11
dannyedwrdsOk when I boot ubuntu live cd after the ubuntu boot screen the screen stays black with no black light I have no way of getting to nomodeset and I can't even open a terminal window08:11
dannyedwrdsAny ideas would be particually helpful08:12
VaticanCameosdannyedwrds: Any blinking cursor?08:13
dannyedwrdsVaticanCameos: There isn't even a cursor08:13
Mikerhinoswols: VIA I belive (it's not my comp but error message on splash screen is "via ircc device not available")08:13
wolsdannyedwrds: don't go out of your way to give useful info e.g. about the hardware. cause that would be just to hard to do08:13
VaticanCameosAll I have to add is that I was having a series of problems just a few days ago when installing ubuntu onto my laptop, after a Windows wipe. The problem, in the end, was that the LiveUSB was corrupt. I had to recreate it.08:13
wolsMikerhinos: this goes for you too08:13
VaticanCameoswols: lol08:14
Mikerhinosfound that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2130640 reading it just in case08:14
dannyedwrdswols: My graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 8400 and my an amd a6-5200 quad core CUP08:15
dannyedwrdsIts an HP laptop and has 6GB of ram08:15
dannyedwrds*CPU08:16
wolsthat hardware would be supported out of the box08:16
dannyedwrdswols: That's what im saying idk what's going on08:17
andy_vector?08:17
wolscheck integrity of live cd medium as VaticanCameos suggested08:18
andy_vectorquit08:19
andy_vectorwhat's up08:19
VaticanCameosdannyedwrds: Do you have windows too?08:19
dannyedwrdsVaticanCameos: I have windows 8.1 installed on my system that's why im using the live cd to make sure all my hardware works before I completly replace it08:23
Mikerhinosok so found that LXLE iso, downloading, seems like it could be the solution to my problem, it's 12.04 based and optimized for old hardware08:23
VaticanCameosAh08:23
VaticanCameosYou must've set the BIOS to boot from CD08:24
VaticanCameosThen the problem should be the CD itself.08:24
DarcHow do I change my screen res in linux?08:25
Darcxrander -s 1920x1080 doesn't work08:26
Darcxrandr*08:26
MikerhinosDarc: Nvidia GPU ?08:26
Darcamd08:27
MikerhinosDarc: can't help, I have Nvidia sorry08:27
dannyedwrdsVatican: Booting isn't the problem after the ubuntu boot screen you know the one with the orange loading bar the screen goes black with no back light08:27
DarcOkay I'm switching from Bodhi. Should I get Ubuntu or Xubuntu?08:29
sh_Darc: show me output of "xrandr -s 1920x1080"08:33
MonkeyDustDarc  the one you like best08:33
MikerhinosDarc: depends on the desktop environment you like best08:33
andy_vectorwhy wine QQ display bad08:34
gry__how do I know what iwl4965 module version is in 14.04?08:41
wolsgry__: it's part of the kernel. modinfo might work08:43
leogreywhich is the link to instructions to install ubuntu mobile ?08:44
gry__wols: I have not installed 14.04 yet, need to know from the web.08:44
btcbuy314does anyone know what a database is used for? like mysql08:44
btcbuy314give me examples08:44
wolsgry__: it's in the kernel tree for years. there is no version in any meaningful way08:44
wolsits version is the same as the kernels08:45
cfhowlettbtcbuy314 medical recods08:45
cfhowlettrecords08:45
wolsbtcbuy314: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database    and do your homework elsewhere please08:45
gry__wols: I have to figure out what changed in this specific module over the last 2 years.08:45
wolsgry__: why?08:45
gry__wols: I'm on 12.04, it's acting up, I have to figure out whether updating to 14.04 is worth it or the problem is not fixed yet.08:46
gry__wols: if there were no changes to that module during the last 2 years then odds are I need to file a bug to its authors/maintainers.08:46
wolsacting up how? and since 4965 is so old it's very unlikely anything changed08:46
gry__That's what I need to check.08:47
wolsthe only thing you can do is look at kernel changelogs or the sources of the module08:47
wolsodds are it's not a bug08:47
leogreyubuntu mobile please ? links08:47
gry__Where are kernel changelogs or sources of the module?08:47
gry__!mobile08:47
gry__!touch08:47
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:47
cfhowlett!touch|leogrey08:47
ubottuleogrey: please see above08:47
peppppeeecia08:48
peppppeee!list08:48
ubottupeppppeee: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:48
leogreycfhowlett: Got it08:49
gry_wols, I disconnected and missed replies, if any.08:51
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ColinShenso quite08:52
ikoniagry_: what's going on with your network card thats a problem ?08:55
dannyedwrdsVaticanameos: Booting isn't the problem after the ubuntu boot screen you know the one with the orange loading bar the screen goes black with no back light08:59
ptlhow do I boot from Ubuntu to an SD device, without fiddling with BIOS/UEFI?09:00
ptlmight be by using other disks09:00
ptlcd-rom09:00
lolmausI've got an SSD and an HDD in my laptop. HDD got extremely slow. Takes 15 seconds for Ctrl+A to complete in my file manager. What can be the problem? Kubuntu 14.04.09:01
ikonialolmaus: how do you have 2 HD's in the laptop09:02
ikonialolmaus: dual hard disk ports or via a different bus ?09:02
lolmausikonia: the SSD is mSATA.09:02
ikonialolmaus: is this a thinkpad ?09:03
lolmausikonia: yes. I could also install a third drive into a CD bay.09:03
ikonialolmaus: are you using the intenral m-sata port ?09:03
lolmausikonia: yes09:07
ikonialolmaus: ok, so which is your primary disk running the OS ?09:07
lolmausikonia: the SSD09:08
lolmausand the performance issue is with the HDD09:08
Egon^641q^Hellooooooooooo!!!09:08
Egon^641q^!list09:08
ubottuEgon^641q^: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».09:08
ikonialolmaus: ok, so if you do "sudo fdisk -l" does it return the 2 disks quickly ?09:08
lolmausikonia: yes, it returns immediately09:09
ikonialolmaus: ok, so it walks the bus quickly thats not bad09:09
ikonialolmaus: ao is it I/O in general that's slow to the second disk, or just specific functions09:09
lolmausikonia: can you please give a quick snippet to test IO?09:10
ikoniacopy a file from the SSD to the spining disk, try a reasonable file size09:10
lolmausikonia: it turns out that it's not the HDD that got slow, but a single window of Dolphin. When i opened the HDD in another window, there was no lag. I'm sorry to have bothered you.09:12
ikonialolmaus: it's no bother09:12
ikonialolmaus: it's good news that it was just a little software glitch09:12
lolmausikonia: you're a kind person. ^_^09:12
radenpioneerhello all09:14
c3lAny idea on why I cannot select persistent storage when using usb-creator for a new usb (formated as fat32) from my 14.04 xubuntu?09:26
saidiwhat is the reverse of: sudo apt-mark hold firefox09:26
kostkonsaidi, man apt-mark09:28
kostkonsaidi, sudo apt-mark unhold firefox09:28
gry_ikonia: pastee.org/ew67s in dmesg, internet connection keeps hopping, I am on 12.04.09:29
saidikostkon, thank you09:29
gry_ikonia: pastee.org/wxpnm is the modinfo.09:31
ikoniagry_: has it always been a problem or just since $X point in time09:33
BartDudeAnyone else here on Ubuntu 14.04 having constant problems trying to connect to your VPN?09:33
rtzuiHi. the indicator applet is constanly crashing. Is there a way to disable the global menu, since this seems the be the issue09:35
gry_ikonia: It is an intermittent problem after I moved to a new location about a year ago. Before that, I only used wired Internet.09:36
ikoniagry_: ok, so you don't have a solid idea of how stable it was before the move then, eg: could have never been solid, or could be the location move thats causing a problem09:36
ikoniagry_: when it drops is it a full interface drop or a disconnect from the AP09:36
gry_ikonia: It starts hopping randomly and keeps doing that the whole day. Some days it does not, some days it does. Somehow more in the last month. -- Yes, I agree, but it works fine on a laptop with the same hardware and another OS on it, in the same room.09:37
ilhamihey09:37
ilhamiwhat does it mean when a file name has ~ at its end?09:37
ilhamiafter the extension??+09:37
gry_ikonia: I don't know whether it is a full interface drop but I believe not, because I turned off network manager and wicd, and I notice that I don't have to ifup it again manually. So either (i) it's not an interface drop, or (ii) _something_ restores the interface for me.09:38
ikoniagry_: that's interesting, so when you say hopping, does that mean it disconnects and trys to find a new AP  ?09:38
kostkonrtzui, no, it's part of the unity-panel. what's the name of the process that is crashing09:38
gry_ikonia: It loses internet connection, hosts don't resolve, and I have to wait 15-45 seconds before it starts working again.09:38
ikoniagry_: ok, so sounds like an AP drop and reconnect09:38
gry_Yeah, I concur.09:38
ikoniagry_: the other laptop that does work is that an intel card too ?09:39
gry_ikonia, It is identical hardware.09:39
rtzuikostkon: xfce4-indicator-plugin09:39
ikoniadamn, that's annoying09:39
gry_So yes.09:39
ikoniagry_: any USB 3 hardware close by ?09:39
rtzuiit's not on the unity desktop09:39
kostkonrtzui, oh, xubuntu/xfce09:39
Mikerhinosokay finally had a desktop screen using LXLE in Vesa mode...installing, hope that it won't take minutes to open a single application :s09:39
BartDudeAnyone else here on Ubuntu 14.04 having constant problems trying to connect to your VPN?09:39
ilhamican someone answer me?09:39
gry_I have no idea whether this thing supports USB3. I would have to go and check in the manual, unless there's a way to know from the commandline.09:39
ilhamigry_ I know you can09:40
ikoniagry_: no no, that's fine, I meant like a usb disk or something09:40
Mikerhinosilhami: I think it's to show that the file is a backup09:40
gry_ilhami, hi. "~" means a temporary file of sorts, probably some editor autosave, I believe.09:40
ilhamioh okay. yeah gedit must have done it then09:40
ikoniagry_: USB3 hardware that's plugged in can sometimes cause drops, I used to have the same problem with a mac as the intel cards seem a little more suseptible on it, but that's out of the window09:40
gry_ikonia: I have a 2GB USB flash drive.09:40
ikoniagry_: worth looking at the date on the firmware file09:40
gry_ikonia, oh, and a USB keyboard and mouse are always active.09:41
ikoniagry_: not a USB3 flash drive though....09:41
gry_Dunno what they're using. I don't have a USB3 flash drive plugged in.09:41
ikoniagry_: doesn't matter about the interface on the laptop, it's the interface on the device that's plugged in09:41
ikoniagry_: bit of a long shot, but I thought worth checking09:41
gry_Okay.09:41
ikoniagry_: check the date on the firmware of the card09:41
gry_How do I do that?09:42
ikoniagry_: thats the thing that really changes between releases these days09:42
ikoniagry_: /var/lib/firmware (from memory)09:42
ikoniagry_: the drivers been pretty solid/stable for years so there is no much changing there09:42
gry_No such file /var/lib/firmware.09:42
ikoniagry_: I'll have to look up the path, not got an ubuntu box here09:42
gry_Okay, thank you.09:43
ikoniagry_: your paste also shows pastee.org/wxpnm09:43
ikoniaoops09:43
ikoniagry_: your paste also shows firmware:       iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode09:43
ikoniagry_: what does the syslog say on it, does it show the interface changing at all,09:44
ikoniaas the fw_restart:restart firmware in case of error (int)09:44
ikonialooks interesting09:44
callowayjanybody see the Ubuntu cloud in a box?09:45
ikoniagry_: sorry to dump about 20 bits of info on you at once09:46
nibbiolist09:47
ikonianibbio: won't work here09:47
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hdtune2khi09:54
BartDudeAnyone else here on Ubuntu 14.04 having constant problems trying to connect to your VPN?09:55
somsip!info vurtualbox09:58
ubottuPackage vurtualbox does not exist in trusty09:58
somsip!info virtualbox09:58
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.3.10-dfsg-1 (trusty), package size 15047 kB, installed size 59184 kB09:58
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rtzuiI wonder if anybody else has this problem: Does somebody have a nm-applet working with xubuntu?10:11
sl33k_xfce4 does not ask for password on screen lock. Why could be that?10:11
rtzuiAnd if so, is it in the notification area, or in xfce4-indicator-plugin10:12
rtzuisl33k_: it seems to be disabled by default10:12
rtzuilook at the settings. Also the release notes say somthing that remvoing  xlocker (if installed) should help10:13
supauliI am having weird problem with grub2 and efi : seems like very boot its 'recordfail=1' and even with GRUB_RECORDFAILTIMEOUT=5 it still just waits for me on the boot10:13
supauliany ideas how to debug what is causing the recordfail=1 on the enviroment there?10:14
umairhi!, after fresh upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, I am now trying to install ATI drivers but it is failing with these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/7482834/. It seems like I am missing some dependencies, what is the appropriate way of installing all dependencies required by ATI drivers?10:17
supauliumair: how are you installing the driver? with dpkg ?10:17
supauliand is the driver from where?10:18
bazhangumair, from the ati website? or the recommended way through ubuntu additional drivers method10:18
umairsupauli: I am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website10:18
Guest62835i10:18
umairbazhang: official amd site10:18
supauliumair: tha page says "In this how-to an AMD64 Catalyst 13.4 installation on an Ubuntu 13.1 system (Saucy)"10:19
supauliis the package valid for 14.04 anyway? (seems like not :)10:20
umairthere is "1. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Trusty" in that guide10:20
supaulioh there is 14.04 section also, so it should work10:20
supauliyou are right10:20
supauliat what step did you get those print ?10:20
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umairthat very step :)10:20
supauliumair: You did do the steps before ?10:21
umairI am not doing point 2 (except apt-get update)10:22
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umairbecause it seems for 10.1010:22
ring3does the ubuntu's vmliunz have symbols?10:23
gry_ikonia: checking syslog10:24
supauliumair: try manually installing package 'xserver-xorg-dev' as it suggests?10:26
umairsupauli: is it as easy as doing it with apt-get?10:27
umairsupauli: these packages "debhelper dh-modaliases xserver-xorg-dev"10:27
agent_whiteIs Ubuntu planning on using systemd in the future?10:27
ikoniayes10:27
gry_ikonia, pastee.org/63zuw10:28
ikoniagry_: all loks good with the exception of 1 warning, but I'm not %100 sure that's actually a problem and not just part of the handshake10:29
fnoyanisihi folks, any way to allow (by default) any host to connect ubuntu via vino?10:32
umairsupauli: seems to work with apt-get as those errors are gone10:32
fnoyanisiI have vino running, and there is no issue with connecting, but ubuntu-box keeps asking for confirmation10:32
colinshenhi10:38
Moony22hi10:38
lotuspsychjefnoyanisi: you have firewall or router that could block?10:38
Moony22I'm starting to like unity10:39
fnoyanisilotuspsychje : I have no issues with connecting to ubuntu box, vino just asks for confirmation whether I want to allow the user to connect10:40
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fnoyanisiI want particular IPs to be able to connect all the time10:40
lotuspsychjefnoyanisi: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/285011/access-with-vino-without-ask-me-permissions10:40
colinsheni am very new for using ubuntu...so i use google to find how to add a lunch icon..but i can not find add icon by click right button on window..10:41
lotuspsychjecolinshen: drag and drop icons to left unity bar10:41
lotuspsychjecolinshen: or open an application and right mouse on the active icon/lock to bar10:41
colinshenwhat should i do ?10:42
lotuspsychjecolinshen: wich program you like to add?10:42
Moony22colinshen: what icon do you want to add?10:42
colinshenwebstorm..10:42
lotuspsychjecolinshen: ok open webstorm10:42
colinsheni already downloaded10:42
Moony22open it10:43
lotuspsychjecolinshen: and you will see an active icon of webstorm on left bar10:43
colinshenusing commend to open  it?10:43
Moony22then right click it and click "lock to launcher"10:43
gry_ikonia: yeah, I guess I'll have to figure out where the source code for the module is and whether it changed. If yes, upgrade. If not, contact Intel. (Unless there is something else for me to try?)10:43
Moony22colinshen: anything, yeah10:43
colinshenok i will try..thanks..10:44
fnoyanisilotuspsychje : worked well, cheers10:44
lotuspsychje!yay | fnoyanisi10:44
ubottufnoyanisi: Glad you made it! :-)10:44
ikoniagry_: so looking through the kenrnel docs, it's not changed for a fair while10:44
ikoniagry_: the firmware certainly has had minior version bumps10:45
lotuspsychjefnoyanisi: also be carefull with vnc for security reasons10:45
colinshenoh-.-i have to install jdk before lunch it...10:45
fnoyanisilotuspsychje : it is home LAN10:45
fnoyanisilotuspsychje : no big issues unless my wireless is comprimised10:45
fnoyanisi:)10:45
lotuspsychjefnoyanisi: ok cheers :p10:46
ikoniagry_: if you're on 12.04 maybe try the backported LTS enablement stack kernels ?10:46
ring3hi, i need ubuntu vmlinux with symbols10:46
ikoniagry_: before diving in with an upgrae10:46
ring3does ubuntu has this?10:46
ring3I haven't seen on the web any ubuntu vmlinux repo :(10:47
ikoniaring3: you know that it is the kernel ?10:47
ikoniathat's what vmlinuz is10:47
dannyedwrdsWell it seems like no one on here has a clue what to do about the problem I have been having.  I am trying to test out the live cd of Ubuntu 14,04 after the ubuntu boot screen my screen turns black and there is no back light and I can not get into the terminal and there is no choice for the nomodeset on the boot screen.  my graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD840010:48
ring3ikonia: yes10:48
ring3i converted the vmlinuz to vmlinux10:48
ikoniaring3: so the kernel is in the base repos, so I don't know why you are looking for different repos10:48
ring3but doesnt have the symbols section10:48
ring3i need symbols, is to debug the kernel10:49
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: did you press F1 at purple boot setup to chose 'nomodeset'?10:49
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: I already tried that nothing happens10:49
ikoniaring3: I'm pretty sure there is a kernel debug package for each kernel in the repo10:49
ikoniaalthough I can't get the package name for you as I'm not on an ubunut machine at the moment10:49
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: but you see the purple boot from setup?10:49
ring3ikonia: i found this: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com $(lsb_release -cs)-security main restricted universe multiverse10:50
ikoniaring3: what is that ?? that's just a text string for your repos ??? what are you trying to actually do ?10:50
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: your monitor shuts down black like cable is not attached?10:50
ring3ddebs repo, have the un compressed vmlinux with symbols10:51
ikoniaring3: are you looking for the dbgsym packages10:51
ring3whats this?10:51
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: I used unetbootin to create a live usb and I mean the boot screen where there the orange loading bar is....yes and like when the monitor isn't plugged in10:51
ikoniaring3: thats the debug symbols packages10:51
ring3i will install pkg-create-dbgsym10:52
ikoniawhy ?10:52
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: you sure unetbootin sucessfully made your usb live?10:52
ring3how can i download the vmlinux for my version full of symbols?10:52
ikoniaring3: I've just told you the dbgsym packages for your matching kernel10:52
ikoniaring3: from the repo you've just posted10:52
ring3aah ok10:53
gry_ikonia: what is the backported stuff? is it not exactly as much stuff to download as if I was doing a total upgrade?10:53
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: maybe just to test, try a lubuntu 14.04 live usb, and see what it does?10:53
thom__good morning. When I install the latest version of LTS there is initially a nice page with keyboard shortcuts. Where is this page and how to get it back? cant find in help.10:53
ikoniagry_: 12.04 has a backport of the later release kernels, it's called the "LTS enablement stack"10:53
ikoniagry_: it will allow you to run the backported kernels from later releases on your box and still have "LTS compatibility/support"10:53
ikoniagry_: maybe worth a punt before you dive in with a full upgrade10:54
kostkonring3, what's your kernel? depends on what iso version you have installed10:54
kostkonoops10:54
ring33.11.0-20-generic10:54
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: im sure that it created it because if it was corrupt it wouldn't even boot at all10:54
lotuspsychjethom__: its the hotkey icon10:54
kostkongry_, ^^10:54
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: ok and your graphics card recently worked right?10:55
kostkonring3, then you installed using the 12.04.4 iso10:55
kostkondamn, kinda confured here10:55
thom__lotuspsychje, sorry. where is that?10:55
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: my graphics card works I see the boot screen and then the screen goes black like its unplugged10:55
colinshendoes anyone use goagent in ubuntu?10:56
ring3kostkon: i upgraded to 14.0410:56
kostkonring3, oh ok10:56
ubuntuser13thom_ by pressing menu button on keyboard10:56
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: i would try an alternative live usb, or lubuntu 14.04 just to test10:56
somsiplotuspsychje: FWIW from yesterday, with the minimal install of 14.04 that wouldn't write grub properly - it's a known issue with minimal and server edition on USB install that grub gets written to the USB MBR. Need to pull the USB before the disk info is read.10:56
olskolircwe use awk and column -t to select and sort columns from left to right.  Is there a command where we can select rows from a db text file?10:57
lotuspsychjesomsip: oh, never had that issue10:57
ring3ikonia:  the public key 428D7C01 is not available :(10:58
ikoniayou need to import the key for that repo10:58
somsiplotuspsychje: it threw me. it didn't help I was setting the old WD drive as the first boot instead of the new WD drive either, but that was my fault. MBR on USB was reproducable unfortunately. Just FYI though10:58
lotuspsychjesomsip: ok tnx for feedback :p10:58
ubuntuser13thom_: sorry super key10:59
somsiplotuspsychje: thanks for your help at the time :)11:00
lotuspsychjesomsip: np mate11:00
thom__ubuntuser13, the window key?11:01
thom__i wish they would not give you something and then make it dissappear11:01
ubuntuser13thom_:  yes hold windows key11:02
thom__thanks11:02
thom__ubuntuser13, i had to long hold11:02
ubuntuser13yes11:02
thom__ubuntuser13, it would be nice if when presented with this page they tell you how to get it back11:02
ubuntuser13thom_: yes11:03
thom__super Hold. great never saw that11:03
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gstyuwhere can i past my screenshots to describe my problem ??11:05
colinshenwhen i run some applications, computer becomes slowly,do i need to add more memory banks? or do you guys have any suggestions?11:05
smiremd_phonecolinshen: Which applications?11:05
gstyuis there any image paster like pastebin ???11:06
OerHekshttp://imagebin.org/?page=add11:06
gstyuTHANKS11:06
smiremd_phonereported attack page ... firefox11:07
smiremd_phonegstyu: imgur.com is popular too11:07
colinshensmiremd_phone:like ..webstorm. i think the memory is not enough to support the to many application to run many applications at same time.11:08
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: What's the difference between lubuntu and ubuntu11:08
smiremd_phonecolinshen: You can check how much memory is used in the system monitor11:08
lotuspsychje!info lubuntu-desktop | dannyedwrds11:08
ubottudannyedwrds: lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.55 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf)11:08
ring3ikonia: thnx, i'm downloading linux-image-3.13.0-27-generic-dbgsym11:09
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: lubuntu is lightweight version of ubuntu, made for lower system specs11:09
colinshensystem monitor..ok ..i will find it to check.11:09
OerHeksoh sorry for that url, it is part of the !paste factoid11:09
OerHeks!paste11:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:09
smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: lighter desktop and default app choices, optimised fir slower computers11:09
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: its worth a try, just to test your setup11:09
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: but normally recent ati card should not give any problems like that on trusty11:10
smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: its also got a more traditional layout, with a windows7 like start menu etc11:10
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: That's why im so confused to why its not working11:10
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: best is to test few other ubuntu versions, 12.04 or lubuntu 14.0411:11
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: just to see whats happening exactly11:11
smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: which ati?11:11
dannyedwrdskk11:11
dannyedwrdssmiremd_phone: ATI Radeon HD 840011:12
lotuspsychjesmiremd_phone: he gets stuck after ubuntu purple screen, monitor goes black11:12
lotuspsychjesmiremd_phone: cant enter F1 neither to choose nomodeset11:13
lotuspsychjedannyedwrds: did you get right architecture of ubuntu iso?11:14
smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: which ati?/11:14
smiremd_phonesorry11:14
smiremd_phonestuck b4 the nomodeset prompt? how is that a graphics problem?11:14
dannyedwrdslotuspsychje: x64 its an AMD Processor11:15
dannyedwrdssmiremd_phone: ATI Radeon HD 840011:15
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smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: 32bit amd processors use the x86 not the the amd64. which cpu?11:16
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dannyedwrdssmiremd_phone: AMD A6-520011:22
OerHeksdannyedwrds, maybe this answer is any help > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199628&p=12912677#post1291267711:23
smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: ok, that is an amd64. so you do not get the ubiquity screen with an icon of a keyboard and a man at the bottom?11:24
dannyedwrdssmiremd_phone Negative all I get is the boot screen with the loading bar and the name ubuntu above it there is no man in a circle with a keyboard11:25
smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: ok, i wasnt sure if you were stuck in uefi or ubuntu boot. that tells me it's ubuntu.11:26
dannyedwrdssmiremd_phone: so I just don't have any idea I can't even get into the terminal11:26
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smiremd_phonedannyedwrds: you may want to try an alternative ubuntu installer eg the network install or the older lts. this seems like an issue eith the installer on tnis particular graphics card11:30
NetGonzohello11:36
NetGonzowhat is the best irc to web developers? :)11:37
umairNetGonzo: irc?11:37
NetGonzohow can i say? :D11:38
ikoniaNetGonzo: ##web if you want to talk about web development11:38
ikoniaNetGonzo: /join ##web11:39
ikoniathis channel deals with ubuntu11:39
NetGonzothank you ikonia :))11:39
umairah you mean IRC channel11:41
zombu2i am amased11:42
NetGonzoi would like to create a list of IRC channel concerning development ;)11:42
zombu2i would like to win the lottery11:43
NetGonzohaha11:43
kostkon!alist | NetGonzo11:45
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ubottuNetGonzo: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*11:45
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donc3hi I have one problem with the sound11:48
donc3when I connect my notebook to a tv with hdmi it sounds like a smurf11:48
zombu2which smurf....11:50
donc3zombu2 sorry i'm spanish and I don't know the word to describe it11:50
zombu2oh11:51
taterhttp://blog.feenode.net/2014/05/we-will-be-moving-linux-channels-to-efnet11:51
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donc3zombu2 could you help me?11:52
somsip!info offlineimap11:52
ubottuofflineimap (source: offlineimap): IMAP/Maildir synchronization and reader support. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5.4-2 (trusty), package size 459 kB, installed size 1228 kB11:52
zombu2donc3 could be sampling rate for pcm audio11:52
donc3zombu2 how can I do it?11:53
zombu2what player you using11:53
donc3firefox11:54
donc3i'm playing a song with youtube11:54
jackbrownanyone there that can help ? I set into /etc/fstab file a samba HardDrive mounting on computer boot but I get it twice into my Desktop ?????????11:54
donc3but with vlc it sounds equal11:55
zombu2donc3 is it the same with all audio11:55
zombu2and does the video play too fast too?11:55
wheatthinjackbrown, be careful of double entries11:55
jackbrownwheatthin: I entered detail on fstab just once11:56
shashank_hey11:56
jackbrownhi11:56
shashank_shubham11:56
JIA1210880668HI11:56
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donc3zombu2 yes!11:57
JIA1210880668nimabi11:58
JIA1210880668nigegounianzia11:58
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JIA1210880668你妈比都闪了啊11:59
smiremd_phonejackbrown: one might be mounted in nautilus with fuse11:59
JIA1210880668曹操11:59
jackbrownsmiremd_phone: how can I check ? anyway before modofying etc/fstab i didn't had this unit auto mounted12:00
donc3zombu2 how can I fix the error12:02
smiremd_phonejackbrown: cat your proc/mount. Whatever it is called.12:03
jackbrown?12:03
jackbrownsmiremd_phone:12:03
zombu2donc3 id that on a ati card?12:04
zombu2is*12:04
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donc3zombu 2 no12:04
donc3nvidia12:04
donc3zombu212:04
zombu2oh12:04
zombu2k 1sec12:04
smiremd_phonejackbrown: on my debian it is cat /proc/mounts. ubuntu is probably similiar.12:05
jackbrownsmiremd_phone: https://www.privatepaste.com/907cb40a6812:06
zombu2donc3 this is what i ve found http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1996584.html12:08
zombu2that might help you12:08
zombu2maybe updating the nvidia driver to latest if yo unot already done so12:09
gry_ikonia, https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/log/?id=refs%2ftags%2fv3.14.4&qt=grep&q=iwl4965 suggests that there were /some/ changes to the module. My modinfo says it's from 2011. So I will upgrade. See you later.12:10
colinshendoes anyone use goagent in ubuntu?12:15
umairFYI: I upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 and then installed latest ATI graphics driver and now my laptop is better than it was on 13.1012:15
umairI hated AMD until now :P12:16
zombu2just give it some time it'll come back12:16
mandu_hi guys12:22
mandu_i just upgraded from 12.04 to14.04 via fresh install12:22
mandu_the mouse and wifi aren’t working… they were working fine during installation12:23
mandu_anyone have an idea?12:23
smiremd_phonejackbrown: one of user/alex has been mounted from the file manager, just get rid of it. it's been done with fuse.12:25
g_hi12:37
laviofilm12:42
floownhellobuntu !12:44
shamrock_uk99Hi folks. Is anyone decrypting a LUKS container on boot with a keyfile? If so, would it be possible to post the contents of /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot file for me please?12:45
floownI have installed Ubuntu in a VM in virtualbox, but if I try to display the integrated desktop, I can not see the icon bar and the windows doest not instegrated well12:46
floownI suppose there is a problem with add-ons12:46
floownI have do : sudo apt-get install -y dkms build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-headers-$(uname -r) befor install the add-ons12:47
smiremd_phonefloown: install vbox guest addons, all it needs is dkms, then reboot the guest and install from the guesg addon cd12:56
jostCan someone recommend me a hardening guide for ubuntu servers?12:59
jost(Except the one from CIS, I've found that already)12:59
innocent95Hi, what's the official freenode channel for gtk ?12:59
cfhowlettjost https://www.dropbox.com/s/vdrj7k0degpzxer/Debian-Ubuntu_hardening_guide.pdf12:59
Dreadlishi don't remember if tehre is any.12:59
floownsmiremd_phone: I have make that13:00
smiremd_phonefloown: what is your host os?13:01
jostcfhowlett: thanks, I'll have a look (though it seems to be old?)13:01
innocent95is there a gtk official channel13:01
innocent95?13:01
k1l!alis | innocent95 search for a channel with alis13:03
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floownsmiremd_phone: the host is Windows13:04
floownthe os invited is Ubuntu13:04
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smiremd_phonewin 7 or 8?13:05
floown8.113:05
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smiremd_phoneOk i cant help with seamless mode on win8. i know it works with 7.13:05
smiremd_phonei have zero experience of windows 813:05
smiremd_phonefloown: But why do you need seamless mode?13:06
Angee18 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy13:07
cfhowlettAngee18 we dont.  stop the spam.13:08
niwoxHey there, can anyone link to a website with description of linux commands with examples ? I remember stumbling into a website like that13:10
cfhowlettniwox https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rdojg5enhnv3gxp/AADAn9ByplcOtJYIUKj35QFJa13:11
theadminniwox: Here's a few common ones: http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/bash_cheat_sheet.pdf13:11
niwoxThank you guys !13:12
kurtcokehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZakKwQ-gFM13:13
kurtcoke"Richard Stallman GNU Founder Ubuntu part of NSA PRISM (SELinux) "13:13
cfhowlettkurtcoke stop spamming this channel.13:14
kurtcokecfhowlett: Its not spam.13:14
cfhowlett!Fud13:14
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt13:14
kurtcokeIm spreading the truth13:14
kurtcokeWhich might invoke fear13:14
cfhowlettkurtcoke take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is for support - not your personal political activism13:14
ThatGuyAnyone here use usenet?13:15
k1lkurtcoke: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. you can talk in #ubuntu-offtopic about that. thanks13:16
k1lThatGuy: same goes for you13:16
zombu2usenet you say13:17
ThatGuyI do say, anyone know a good place to get NZB that are not exe's lol13:17
zombu2it s codecspam13:18
cfhowlettThatGuy if you have an UBUNTU support question, now would the time to ask.13:18
zombu2most good idexers filter it pretty good13:18
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ThatGuyMoving this convo to ubuntu-offtopic13:20
cfhowlettThatGuy thank you for your cooperation.13:21
enzohello13:26
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toothgood afternoon how can i help u13:32
compdoci have this terrible tooth pain13:33
zombu2lies13:34
thescorpcompdoc: Easy fix; Rip out the tooth that hurts.13:34
thescorpThats how men deal with that.13:34
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larry57hi anyone managed to install Visual Studio 2013 under Ubuntu 14.04 using wine ?13:37
tejashreehello13:38
tejashreehello all13:39
IdleOnelarry57: sounds more like a question for ##winehq13:45
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fox_hello13:46
SonikkuAmericalarry57: Err, that's #winehq13:46
ivalianyone romanian here?13:48
anonimcathola alguien que me pueda ayudar en la instalacion de lineage13:48
SonikkuAmericaanonimcat: Va Ud. a #ubuntu-es13:48
larry57SonikkuAmerica: thanks13:51
MonkeyDust!es13:51
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:51
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yayohello everyone, my name is Yayo, I'm ubuntu newbie, I'm looking for some help to solve a small issue, I tried to follow one tutorial but wasn't succesfull, somebody there can help me?13:57
IdleOneyayo: if you don't say what you need help with, we can't help you14:00
RuPeRtererwill ubuntun run with hd 4600 grappics14:00
RuPeRtererintel 4600 graphics ^14:01
yayoThe brightness control doesn't work and I was following a tutorial saying this: Open a terminal and create the following configuration file, if it does not exist:14:02
yayosudo touch /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf14:02
yayoNow we need to edit this file. You can use any editor be it a terminal one or graphical.14:02
yayosudo gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf14:02
yayoAdd the following lines to this file:14:02
yayo    Section "Device"14:02
unopasteyayo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted14:02
RuPeRtererwill ubuntun run with intel hd 4600 graphics14:04
wolsRuPeRterer: yes. 14.04 certainly does. 13.10 should too since it was released after the hd4600 showed up14:05
yayothe brightness control doesn't change anything, it keeps the brightness of the screen in the maximum14:05
jschoolcraftcan monit interact with upstart?14:05
yayoand I was following this tutorial  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7483695/14:05
MonkeyDustyayo  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too14:06
RuPeRtererwols14:06
RuPeRtererwhat about this14:07
yayoMonkeyDust, sorry man, Its my firt time here, I don't know how to use this chat.14:07
RuPeRtererhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/466197/clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-from-01-org-package14:07
wols!paste14:07
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:07
wolsif you need to paste many lines somewhere14:07
yayoI just, want to show you the tutorial I was trying to follow14:07
RuPeRtererThe installer contains the wrong repository url. To fix this you need14:07
RuPeRtereranyone know if the url was fixed14:07
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wolsRuPeRterer: you do not need this "latest" driver14:08
SamuraiAlbataco taco nacho burrito14:09
wolsRuPeRterer: why would anyone know about a random bogus repo?14:09
RuPeRtererjust asking14:09
yayoAnyway, my problem is that the brightness control doesn't work, can somebody help me fix it?14:09
RuPeRtereri been catching hell iwth debain for a few days and sick of the hassel lol14:10
yayoHello? any recommendation about my problem? any other chat to go?14:12
OerHeksRuPeRterer, for ubuntu 13.10 this answer seems to work > https://gist.github.com/whoward/807909814:15
thumpbaif ufw has been disabled why are ports still being blocked14:15
fartfaceAnyone around to help me through setting up VNC on a new 14.04 GNOME install?14:15
fartfaceOr to point me in the right direction for a sample xstartup configuration, since all of the ones I've found have been for gnome classic, or xfce?14:16
wols,v vino-server14:16
wolsfartface: install vino and you have a vnc server14:17
yayoAny one can help me follow this http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/     I get some errors when using the terminal14:17
fartfacewols: administrator@athena:~/.vnc$ /usr/lib/vino/vino-server14:18
fartfaceCannot open display:14:18
fartfaceRun 'vino-server --help' to see a full list of available command line options14:18
glumetuanyone has put latest ubuntu on ultrabook?14:18
k1lglumetu: depends heavily on the specific hardware14:19
wolsfartface: you need to run X with your DE and then start vino-server14:21
ACCBiggzMy limited skills have reached their end. I am trying to open a game I recently purchased via Steam, but it will not launch. I Googled and a few said to install ia32-libs in the terminal, but I get this message: "E: Unable to locate package ia32-libs". So, that's where I am. How can I install the ia32-libs?14:21
daniel31Hi all. I tried to add a directory to a zip file using terminal and gzip -r output.zip directory/ but it zipped all the files in place then unlinked the originals. how can I a) dezip each file recursively and b) zip the entire directory instead?14:21
yayoAnyone there patient enough to help an ubuntu newbie?14:21
daniel31yayo: don't ask permission to ask, just ask. If you're afraid of being laughed at you can PM me but most folk are pretty nice in here.14:21
wolsyayo: controlling brightness is done differently across various laptops. one such tutorial can't encompass all14:22
daniel31ACCBiggz: I dont know the answer to your question. have you tried typing apt-get install ia32-lib  into the terminal?14:22
RuPeRtereroerheks14:23
wolsACCBiggz: you cannot anymore. Ubuntu is a multiarch capable distro so stopgaps like ia32-libs are outdated for years now14:23
wolsACCBiggz: this is a windows steam game?14:23
RuPeRtereri will run the latest rls of ubuntu14:23
ACCBiggzdaniel31: Sorry if that wasn't clear. That was the suggestion solution, I tried it & it gave that message.14:23
ACCBiggzwols: No. It's a Linux/cross-platform game. OOTP15.14:23
wolsACCBiggz: run "ldd <program you want to start" and you can see which libs are missing14:24
wolsyayo: I strongly recommend you not to PM people unasked14:24
wolsyayo: and when you get errors, show us the first command you ran that gave you errors including the errors14:25
yayoOk, sorry this is my first time here, if somebody has any link with the rules I can read, please pass it to me.14:25
cfhowlett!guidelines|yayo14:26
ubottuyayo: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines14:26
yayoI fisrt put the command sudo touch /usr/share/X11/xorg.config.d/20-intel.config and then I got the error cannot touch ‘/usr/share/X11/xorg.config.d/20-intel.config’: No such file or directory14:26
yayothanks ubottu14:26
ACCBiggzwols: I'm new to Steam. Where can I find where it has installed the game to? All I see when I right click is "steam://rungameid/272670"14:26
wolsACCBiggz: I wouldn't know since I don't use steam14:27
fartfacewols: There isn't even a configuration application to run in Ubuntu DE.  Searching for vino returns no results, searching desktop sharing returns no results.  It says it's installed, but I can't access it anywhere.14:27
da52175Where's my nickname gone?14:27
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wolsACCBiggz: I suggest you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch#Introduction  it also mentions ia32-libs further down14:28
wolsfartface: you can run it inside your X session however14:28
lucastthey i `m getting the grub rescue message when booting the computer14:30
lucastti tried to install boot-repair14:30
lucasttbut there`s n boot repair for ubuntu 14.414:30
lucasttis there a way to make it download for an older version14:30
wols!fixmbr | lucastt14:30
ubottulucastt: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub214:30
keevitajais it possible to open an application for another user? like when ssh into machine with user1 and user2 is also logged in i want to start vlc for user2 in unity desktop14:31
thumpbai disabled ufw but it seems ports are still being blocked14:32
lduroswhen you run "sudo shutdown -h now" or in AWS EC2 trigger a termination (which is the same as a shutdown I believe at the os level), is there a graceful period of time for the processes to finish whatever they are working on?14:32
ldurosand is there a time limit before the processes are killed?14:32
fartfacewols: It says it's not enabled, so then I go and hit Alt-F2, enter vino-preferences, enable everything, and still nothing.14:36
donc3Hi! when I connect my laptop to the hdmi14:37
donc3the sound is too fast14:37
yayoHi everyone, anyone there who can help me or give me any recommendation about brightness control problem?14:37
donc3it's not a flash problem, because it happens also in the programs like vlc... What can I do???14:38
daniel31keevitaja - have you tried gksudo -u user2 vlc ?14:38
keevitajano i have not. i'll try it14:38
JonnyDamnnoxhey JO14:39
JonnyDamnnoxis there a program which projects something like my traffic to the desktop?14:39
JonnyDamnnoxa terminal with tcpdump on the desktop?14:39
JonnyDamnnoxfor example14:39
donc3nobody know nothing about my problem??14:40
keevitajadaniel31: but i do not thin it will work with ssh. how does ubuntu know where i want to open this app. which display14:40
GeoAny tips on converting a running boot partition (/) to RAID 1 with mdadm?14:40
cfhowlett!raid14:40
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:40
daniel31keevitaja - it probably wont work, but reading the gksudo man pages and then googling is where I'd start looking myself..14:41
Geothanks, but I'm looking for specifically when the boot drive is already mounted14:41
KGM70HI ppl14:43
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p5yxAnyone else encountered problems with installing ubuntu minimal in kvm recently?14:45
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massacreursalem14:48
donc3Hi! when I connect my laptop to the hdmi the sound is played too fast14:50
donc3it's not a flash problem, because it happens also in the programs like vlc... What can I do???14:50
ACCBiggzwols: I finally found it, ran lld, here are the results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7483922/14:51
shajihi14:51
whoevershadowe989: hi14:52
yayoHello, I have a  brightness problem. The brightness control shows on the screen but it doesn't change anything, even if the control bar moves from left lo right, the brightness is always set to the maximum.14:55
daftykinsyayo: have a look at the edits made here http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness14:57
yayook give me a min to read it, thanks daftykins14:57
Geoballpark , how long does dd'ing 20gb take?14:58
daftykinshow long is a piece of string?14:58
daftykinsthere are too many variables, disk type, speed, interface speed...14:58
cfhowlett!behelpful|daftykins14:58
ubottudaftykins: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.14:58
daftykinscfhowlett: don't do that.14:58
wolsACCBiggz: have you read the link I gave you about multiatch?15:01
smiremd_phoneGeo: several hundred MB/sec on ssd, about 1/2 that on rotary, assuming brand new kit15:01
wolsACCBiggz: and from that paste, you already have pretty much all i386 libs you need except maybe some steam related ones15:02
Macermy laptop keeps crashing when resumed from sleep15:06
Macercompletely freezes15:06
wizard_Ahow do i install the ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-server 14.0415:07
wizard_Aunity15:07
C0FFEEsudo su -  and tasksel15:08
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k1ldont sudo su -15:08
k1lwizard_A: install the package "ubuntu-desktop" that should install everything as depency15:09
ratskinmahoneyMacer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop15:09
Macerhm.. maybe it's due to the ati drivers15:09
Macerratskinmahoney: isn't that installed by default?15:09
k1lMacer: not on the server edition15:09
Maceri'm not running server on my laptop15:09
daftykinsyou're highlighting the wrong guy for desktop installation ;)15:10
Macermy ubuntu server works fine :)15:10
k1lMacer: ah i see, it was a wrong highlight then15:10
Macer10:09 < ratskinmahoney> Macer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop15:10
Macerheh15:10
ACCBiggzwols: Yes, I read the link. Although, some of it did go over my head. As for the paste - OK, so, would you suggest I contact Steam support to see what I need?15:10
Macermaybe he did15:10
ratskinmahoneyhaha, sorry, my bad15:10
SpeirosI have a problem where my computer continues to crash, and I've been suggested it may be related to bug 977804.15:11
ubottubug 977804 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Unity crashes when many windows are opened (intel_do_flush_locked failed: No space left on device)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97780415:11
Macerit's probably the ati driver i'm using15:11
Maceri'll go back to the xorg one15:11
SpeirosThe problem is I only have one window (the one to report the fault, the xchat client and terminal.15:12
SpeirosPlus I have ample space as it's just been loaded onto a blank hard disk15:12
nikHey guys, I'm having trouble with some usb wi-fi adapters I bought for my pc. Whenever I plug them in, they work fine, but after 30-90 minutes I get a kernel panic, and the system crashes. The chipsets on the wi-fi cards are rt2870 and rt3072 (drivers for both are part of kernel) so they worked out of the box, but I can't seem to fix the crashing. I've searched everywhere and haven't been able to find a solution. I also manually updated the drivers15:13
nikjust in case (but I think the most up-to-date version was already installed). I'm running 64-bit 14.04 ubuntu on a dual core intel i3. Anyone have any ideas on how I could go about fixing this, or where I could ask for more help?15:13
thumpbaim trying to telnet but get connection refused, even though ufw is disabled15:13
wizard_Aif without the ofice and extras...????15:13
SpeirosI have two pastebins if necessary.15:14
Macerok. seems the fglrx driver may have been causing it15:15
k1lwizard_A: if you only want unity try to install the unity and the lightdm package15:15
loke__After upgrading to 13.10 (and later 14.4, with no improvement), I was no longer able to mount encrypted (krb5p) NFS-partitions. Instead I'm getting an error, "mount system call failed" with the following message in syslog: NFS: nfs4_discover_server_trunking unhandled error -121. Exiting with error EIO15:17
loke__Anyone have any idea about that one?15:17
Geosmiremd_phone, thanks15:17
SpeirosHere is the first pastebin, relating to the probable bug. http://pastebin.com/C4UDKCap15:17
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SpeirosThis one shows that I have ample space.http://pastebin.com/6EgSj5Qr15:18
Macerah well. thanks for the help anyways ;) i'm pretty sure it was the fglx driver15:18
Macerseems ok now but i'll have to put it to sleep for a whle and make sure it pops up15:18
ACCBiggzwols: I have to bolt. Appreciate your assistance. Hopefully I can resolve this issue later today.15:19
daftykinsGeo: just FYI you can see dd's progress by sending its' PID a -USR1 flag via kill, e.g. find the PID of dd, then run "kill -USR1 $PID"15:19
GeoI'm actually watching the file via ls -al right now15:20
Geobut thanks, thats interesting15:20
GeoFYI, I have the /home raid built from last night's discussion, and am backing up the / partition before I attempt to mirror it15:21
Geo...and there we are.15:22
Geoonward.15:22
sheerhey, anyone know how to get breadcrumbs in thunar?15:23
sheerlike, where you can click on part of the path to jump back to that location15:23
Macercan wine run MS office?15:23
Macertalk about a pipedream huh? :)15:23
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cfhowlett!wine15:24
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:24
smiremd_phoneMacer: certain versions, yes15:25
sheerMacer: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22248 you might have some luck, for sure15:25
Macerah i see15:25
Maceri was hoping for the one that is installed using office.microsoft.com15:26
Macerthe online installer that seems to use nothing but .net heh15:26
SpeirosHas this bug been fixed in the 14.4 version?15:26
Macerguess there's only one way to find out!15:26
Macerheh15:26
smiremd_phoneMacer: Office365 works15:26
Macersmiremd_phone: really? wow. that's awesome15:26
Maceror do you mean the web site version?15:27
Maceri was hoping to use outlook locally15:27
smiremd_phoneMacer: LibreOffice can also read certain ms office files15:27
Macersmiremd_phone: i need the outlook.com contacts/calendar etc15:27
smiremd_phonei meant office36515:27
smiremd_phoneoutlook.com works fine. outlook, depends on version.15:27
Maceryeah. seems like the one that office365 installs doesn't work in wine :/15:28
Macerat least the setup app won't run15:28
smiremd_phoneMacer: Many other programs can synchronise with outlook btw15:28
Macersmiremd_phone: really? like what?15:28
Macerusing outlook.com? i thought the sync was proprietary and closed15:28
Maceri know evolution can't :) you have to do some outlook importing. that's lame. i wanted live updating of the calendar and contacts15:29
smiremd_phoneMacer: To be clear I mean the web version of 365.15:30
Macersmiremd_phone: yeah i know15:31
Maceris there any app i can install in ubuntu that sync with outlook.com ?15:31
Maceror is it simply impossible?15:31
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smiremd_phoneMacer: thunderbird is supposed to have a plugin but i haven't tried it15:31
Maceroh?15:32
Macerhm let me try that out15:32
smiremd_phoneMacer: That's for exchange15:32
Macersmiremd_phone: yeah. outlook.com uses the exchange protocol for calendar/contacts15:33
smiremd_phoneMacer: ExQuillia15:33
Macerlmao. in unity thunderbird has no border and i can't drag it15:34
Macerawesome15:34
smiremd_phones/exquillia/exquilla15:34
Maceri also can't get rid of the address book but i don't see a plugin for this15:34
smiremd_phonedesktop mail clients are obsolete, what did you expect? (puts on flame shield)15:35
Maceryeah but it would still be nice to have something that at least puts an indicator on the desktop ;)15:35
Macerthe real question is why doesn't thunderbird have borders to move the window around with?15:36
BluewolfHi all, I keep getting this system error on my freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop and Laptop, I have the error details as well -  http://imagebin.ca/v/1MqrXoM9oERo ?15:36
SpeirosWhich window?  I use thunderbird, and find it useful.15:37
smiremd_phoneBluewolf: is your system fully updated? can you show the actual error?15:37
SpeirosDo you mean like each email address separately?15:38
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: http://imagebin.ca/v/1Mqt8TKfJuyK15:39
nikHi, I'm having trouble with some usb wi-fi adapters I bought for my pc. Whenever I plug them in, they work fine, but after 30-90 minutes I get a kernel panic, and the system crashes. The chipsets on the wi-fi cards are rt2870 and rt3072 (drivers for both are part of kernel) so they worked out of the box, but I can't seem to fix the crashing. I've searched everywhere and haven't been able to find a solution. I also manually updated the drivers just i15:40
nikn case (but I think the most up-to-date version was already installed). I'm running 64-bit 14.04 ubuntu on a dual core intel i3. Anyone have any ideas on how I could go about fixing this, or where I could ask for more help?15:40
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: Yes it is fully updated - Both the Desktop and Laptop15:40
SpeirosAnyway.  So I guess I'll have to wait until next time to see if anyone knows about the intel_do_flush_locked failed: No space left on device (when the device has nearly 95% free space15:41
smiremd_phoneBluewolf: says suspend/resume failure. that is the cause: not waking up properly.15:41
SpeirosWhat is the most stable ubuntu at present?15:42
Qaskerthis channel sends me so many false highlights, if someone ever needed to get a hold of me, they probably never would bc I mostly ignore them15:43
Macerhm. trying to see if i can get exquilla to connect with outlook.com heh15:43
Maceri think it got stuck15:43
k1lSpeiros: 12.04.4 imho.15:43
SpeirosThanks k1l15:44
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: Well thats what it been doing since I installed it, this is the other error - http://imagebin.ca/v/1MquQiDMzr2C15:44
k1lSpeiros: the 12.04 to 14.04 LTS upgrade will be opened in july when 14.04.1 will be released15:44
Speirosk1l July eh.  Excellent.  I hope that little glitch is covered.  I can't play manaworld with it...keeps booting me off and saying my computer is full.15:44
SpeirosTwo months, and I'll download it.15:45
smiremd_phoneBluewolf: Are you running gnome disk utility? It is the disk application in the dash.15:46
kkkkkkkkkwhy skype for ubuntu is so bugged??????15:47
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: As far as I know, that error appeared when I was coping a move on my USB drive and accidentally hit the sleep button on my keyboard.15:47
Speiroskkkkkkkkk What do you mean bugged mate?15:48
savidHow do I install multi-arch libs in ubuntu? I did dpkg --add-architecture armhf, but when I apt-get update I get a bunch of "Failed to fetch" errors.15:48
Macersmiremd_phone: i'd actually pay for this if it worked lol15:49
Macerdoesn't seem to tho15:49
Macertoo bad15:49
wolssavid: did you apt-get update?15:49
kkkkkkkkkSpeiros, i have to always modprobe webcam to X doesnt keep the window black15:49
kkkkkkkkkSpeiros, when i close skype stops15:49
savidwols: yes like I said that's when I get the "Failed to fetch" errors.15:49
Speiroskkkkkkkkk Ah, sorry, yes, I never once used the video.  I could use voice and send files with no problems, but the webcam I never did get working.15:50
Speiroskkkkkkkkk Most of my connections were with China and USA15:50
xenolyseWhat is the difference between the nvidia drivers 331, 334 and 337? Why are there different versions?15:50
kkkkkkkkkSpeiros, i think it is a bug, the window turn black for while15:51
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Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: Are these two problems serious, if so how do I fix them?15:51
savidActually, it looks like those errors are for ppas that have been added. I wonder if there's a way to have thouse sources be arch-specific?15:52
Speiroskkkkkkkkk You might be right mate.  The only way I could avoid it was have the cam off at all times on Skype.  Stupid considering it is one of the main features, but worked for the files and voip15:52
smiremd_phoneBluewolf: Personally I would turn off error reporting and forget about it.15:52
kkkkkkkkkSpeiros, YES, stupid bug15:52
Speiroslol15:52
kkkkkkkkkSpeiros, i turned offf video option15:53
Speiroskkkkkkkkk That's what worked for me.  I didn't have any trouble from then...occasional drop out, but normally because of my contact on the other end using his phone on skype.15:54
SpeirosAs for the USA connection, no problems at all.  I'm in Australia.  All local connections worked fine.15:54
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: Uh, I see its that much of a problem. That being said I am very happy to ignore it as long as it doesn't blue screen my machine in the long run?15:54
kkkkkkkkkSpeiros, skype for windows or mac osx doest hava tthis issue15:54
Speiroskkkkkkkkk No, that's a good point.15:55
smiremd_phoneBluewolf: Suspend is a bit tricky to setup, others here can do it. They would know.15:56
ni391456new to Ubuntu. I'd like to setup a dual boot on my xp and keep xp as is15:56
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: So what exactly has happened here?15:57
Speirosni391456 You can put the disk in and run it alongside without having to install if you wanted to test it out.15:57
ni391456or should I do VM for xp off Linux.15:57
wolsni391456: depends on the programs you want to run under XP15:57
wolsni391456: and what hardware (CPU, RAM) you have15:58
ni391456yes I saw that. I'm such an old timer on xp and dos. never did much unix15:58
smiremd_phoneBluewolf does suspend/sleep work ?15:58
colinshenhi does any one know how can boot win8 and ubuntu ?15:58
ni391456I only have a gig on mem on the old box15:58
SpeirosGoodnight folks, and thanks.15:59
ni391456I hadn't done irc in years16:00
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone: Yeah but then it has its gifted moments every now and again where discipline is in order (That being a restart)16:00
minobhello everyone, is there a robust feed reader to use with ubuntu? I'm using liferea and it jams ever so often, and hasn't launched for the past 5 minutes16:00
smiremd_phoneBluewolf: Suspend is a bit tricky to setup, others here can do it. They would know.16:00
minobyet16:00
ni391456I have the old CPU before dual core. it runs at 3gig though16:00
daftykinsni391456: XP is dead and buried, support wise - you shouldn't really run it at all16:04
ragggmy ssd seems hot, idling at 57C, is that normal?16:04
ni391456is there an ITunes app for Ubuntu?16:04
smiremd_phoneni391456: ubuntu unity requires 3d acceleration. on 1 gig ram i would not VM. so i recommend you jse a lighgweight desktop version of ubuntu like Lubuntu, and you dual boot16:04
daftykinsni391456: with 1GB RAM you'd have to run something super lightweight like lubuntu or xubuntu, i doubt you'd have much RAM left for a VM after that16:04
ni391456thnx16:05
daftykins!itunes16:05
ubottuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee16:05
smiremd_phoneunity works on 1 gb, his problem will be 3d accel, not ram16:05
ni391456thnx16:05
ni391456will players sync with apple pods?16:06
xangua probably no ni39145616:07
ni391456drag. that's one reason to keep xp up16:07
smiremd_phoneni391456: i believe ios6 will and ios7 wont, but there should be an ios7 fix soon if not already16:07
Bluewolfsmiremd_phone, Okay I will have to ask again. Thanks for the time and help.\16:08
kupo_oh hey guys16:08
smiremd_phoneni391456: But I can confirm that ios6 will sync.16:09
ni391456wellIll dual boot with the light ver then since I am running an old pc16:09
ni391456thnx smiremd16:09
smiremd_phoneni391456: you can just get a wifi transfer app and a diffeent music player for your ios device, and sync by just copying files16:10
Locke2002Can anyone tell me the proper way to start the desktop gui in Lubuntu when I have grub set to boot into text/cli?16:10
nomicstartx16:10
nomicif you have x installed should start the x window manager16:11
k1lno. dont use startx on ubuntu16:11
daftykinsLocke2002: 'sudo service lightdm start' also?16:11
k1lstart the lightdm and then login there16:11
k1lstartx just messes with the filepermissions.16:11
ni391456can't I run Ubuntu 14 in the demo mode to see if mypc cam run it?16:12
Locke2002I've been using "sudo start lightdm" which works ok, but it gets me an openbox session with minimal configuration, the right-click menu only has Terminal and Web browser, and a few Openbox options. Not sure if that's what Lubuntu's desktop should normally be when not booting straight to terminal...16:12
daftykinsni391456: you can but i guarantee you 1GB RAM isn't enough16:13
ni391456k16:13
ni391456is 2 gig enough?16:13
daftykinsni391456: what graphics card do you have?16:13
k1lLocke2002: you can select different sessions on that login enue16:13
k1lLocke2002: i think lubuntu offers the lubuntu one and the pplain lxde one. or you dont have lubuntu-desktop but lxde packages installed16:14
ni391456an ati that has a tv built in16:14
daftykinsni391456: ah all in wonder radeon 9800 perhaps?16:14
ni391456sry, I don't know the specks right off16:14
ni391456sound like that one16:15
daftykinscheck device manager if you're on it now16:15
ni391456I am not on it now16:15
ni391456but is is an all in one wonder vid card16:15
ni3914569800 sounds right16:16
daftykinsyou would definitely have trouble running unity on that16:16
ChayceHow to grep users by their uidnumbers?16:16
Macerwell. i managed to syc the calendar using the lightning plugin16:16
Macerbut syncing the contacts seems rather impossible16:16
ni391456unity?16:16
Locke2002k11: Thanks. I found Lubuntu, Lubuntu Netbook, and Openbox (what I had selected). Lubuntu seems to be the one it was booting before I changed the grub file. Thanks :)16:16
k1lLocke2002: np16:17
Somayathrough which software should i install iso image of ubuntu16:18
ni391456just remover to open the iOS project to burn16:18
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daftykinsni391456: unity is the 3D accelerated desktop on standard ubuntu, around since 12.0416:19
Chayce<Chayce> How to grep users by their uidnumbers? or how to find certain uidnumbers are unused?16:19
MacerOH.. NICE.. i got it working :D16:19
daftykinsni391456: it's a lot more power hungry as it requires a currently-supported graphics card etc. etc.16:19
Macerused some addon16:19
ni391456cool, thnx dafty16:19
Macertzpush gets the contacts16:19
daftykinsnp :)16:19
Macerlightning gets the calendar events from outlook.com16:19
Macerso now thunderbird actually sync everything with outlook lol16:20
ni391456yea I thought Linux would be less sys needy16:20
theodat_I wish Thunderbird worked better with gmail two step authorization16:21
daftykinsni391456: it can be, but times move on. xubuntu definitely cuts requirements a lot... but really less than 2GB RAM and single core CPUs are just fit for the scrap-heap in a lot of ways now16:21
ChayceHow to grep users by their uidnumbers?16:21
ni391456how can I say good buy to xp and this old pc I hand built that has all my stuff on it .... office and such16:22
ni391456I don't havs the cash to get current hardware16:23
daftykinsni391456: well, XP and office 2003 are unsupported and unsafe to use online now... so that's just game over for them16:23
ni391456that's why I need linux16:23
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daftykinsni391456: you can definitely find a lightweight Linux distribution to put on :)16:24
daftykinsni391456: is it an Athlon64 did you say?16:24
ni391456in vm xp would be safe16:24
daftykinsonly if it never goes online16:24
ni391456Lubuntu?16:24
daftykinsyeah lubuntu is the lightest of the ubuntus i think16:24
ni391456naw an intell with hyper theriding16:25
daftykinsoh so pentium 4?16:25
ni391456yes16:25
ni391456I guess I can use it as wall art, hey16:26
daftykinsheh, i just abandoned a similar era PC with XP on my parents have. i ordered a cheap Dell for £290 (GBP) delivered, with an i5, 4GB RAM and 500GB HDD16:26
bertushey guys does anyone know how to add new wallpapers to xubuntu?16:27
ni391456so all the old software is a goner?16:27
bertusi cannot get my wallpapers to change16:27
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daftykinsni391456: which specifically? Microsoft dropped support for Windows XP and Office 2003, yes - so neither of those will get any security fixes anymore, leaving them vulnerable online16:28
Locke2002ni391456: I'm using Lubuntu on my 2002 laptop with 512MB of RAM. It's ok as long as I'm careful how many browser tabs I open, lol16:29
ni391456I know. but I like the idea of keeping the old stiff. I grew up in a Microsoft world doing corporate support16:30
bertusany help with xubuntu?16:30
Beldarbertus, New wallpapers and changing them are two different things.16:30
bertusyea changing is fine16:30
bertusbut adding new ones cannot be done16:30
bertusplz help16:30
smiremd_phoneni391456: Lubuntu has no special hardware requirement, and I can see from system monitor it is using 200MB of Ram with the desktop and firefox up16:30
ni391456that's helpful Lockie16:31
daftykinsni391456: are you familiar with Linux live sessions?16:31
smiremd_phoneni391456: By contrast Unity (ubuntu) is taking 75016:31
ni391456I am on an Los iPad right now16:32
ni391456old ipad16:32
Beldarbertus, I use this one it is a ppa so not supported here technically, https://launchpad.net/~wallch/+archive/3+16:32
bertuscan i add new images to the backdrops folder? tried to copy there but did not work16:32
Beldarbertus, That folder is in root I believe correct?16:33
xanguabertus: you can use any image as wallpaper, you don't need to add them to a special directory16:33
ni391456I have a newer pc with 4 gig and inter dual core pc16:34
ni391456intel16:34
BeldarBeldar, any image you right click has a set as wallpaper option.16:35
Beldarlol16:35
Beldarbertus, any image you right click has a set as wallpaper option.16:35
* Beldar needs more caffeine16:35
ni391456I'm just moving over to Linux   so no not know anything16:35
bertusyea bro that does not work with xubuntu16:36
bertus@ beldar16:36
Beldarbertus, who are you talking to and what does not work?16:36
Beldarah cool16:36
bertuswant to change wallpapers on xubuntu16:36
bertuscannot add new ones16:36
bertustried to copy more images to the root folder - does not allow16:37
daftykinsni391456: ok, well compared with Windows, you can put a Linux .ISO image onto a USB flash drive or a DVD and boot up from it, using the OS in a test session without installing it16:37
bnghi all, I cannot boot into my new installation, I installed grub onto sda of a GPT drive but my bios just says "reboot and select proper boot device"16:37
Beldarbertus, correct, and not needed.16:37
ni391456got to go on break. thnx16:38
bertuscool so how do I get it done plz?16:38
bngthe grub installation went fine, I left few MB free at the beginning of the drive before sda116:38
Beldar!bootinfo | bng pastebin the final text document16:38
ubottubng pastebin the final text document: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).16:38
smiremd_phoneJust like to point out that windows 7+ also has a live install on flash16:39
smiremd_phoneit's just stpidly hard to setup in 716:39
bngBeldar: thanks for the tip16:39
smiremd_phoneI had to do it once, and it took a while :-(16:39
Beldarno prob bng16:39
daftykinssmiremd_phone: ok but that's not official16:40
Beldarbertus, here is a deb link to the one I mention I use. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/wallch/16:40
vincenzoin this channel there is a italian man16:40
bertusok cool thanks bro!16:40
smiremd_phonedaftykins: It is in 8, i dont know if it's offical in 7 or not16:40
Beldarbertus, I believe there is another in the repos.16:40
bertusi love xubuntu this has just been irritating me a lot!16:40
daftykinssmiremd_phone: i've not seen a 'try' option booting win8 media 0o16:40
vincenzoyes xubuntu is most beatiful16:41
smiremd_phonedaftykins: It's called Windows To Go16:41
bertuscan i manually change wallpapers?16:41
bertuslike right click and say set as wallpaper - because that does not work for me16:42
Aarunineed urgent help here. need the ubuntu minimal CD to work with a wi-fi connection.16:42
MonkeyDustbertus  "desktop settings" or so16:42
daftykinssmiremd_phone: ah, Enterprise only16:42
bertusyeah and then ?16:42
daftykinsAaruni: for what purpose?16:43
Aarunidaftykins, to install ubuntu on laptop. no ethernet connection here, but I get wifi16:43
Aaruniit is important that I install using minimal CD, daftykins16:43
daftykinsAaruni: why?16:43
zombu2the voices tell em to16:44
Aarunidaftykins, because its a thing I've never tried before16:44
daftykinsAaruni: so really you're just making things more complicated for no reason?16:44
Beldarbertus, My friend you have been given some answers, you have not tried one and continue to post, this is not very useful in helping you.16:44
Aarunidaftykins, pretty much yeah16:44
p5yxAnyone else encountered problems with installing ubuntu minimal in kvm recently?16:45
daftykinsAaruni: if you really want to play with minimal image installs, do so in a VM. if you really need to set up another system, just use full media :)16:45
Aarunidaftykins, already tried VM. it gets stuck after a point...16:45
MonkeyDustAaruni  first go somewhere where you have ethernet, so you have something to fall back on16:45
daftykinsAaruni: we're going to need more information16:46
Beldar!ask > p5yx16:46
ubottup5yx, please see my private message16:46
AaruniMonkeyDust, I have a full install media to fall back on.16:46
MonkeyDustAaruni  yes, but no ethernet16:46
AaruniMonkeyDust, why need ethernet ?16:46
MonkeyDustAaruni  because wifi doesnt work, you say16:47
Aarunidaftykins, to hell with VM. for now, lets get wi-fi working with minimalCD16:47
smiremd_phoneooh ... this box accepts root login over SSH ... haha!16:47
Slamd64hello, I got a strange problem and can't seem to get rid off it. On every login it asks me to enter login password because I 'failed' to logout correctly, but I have logged out normally.16:47
bertusthe automatic wallpaper changer is not the answer16:47
AaruniMonkeyDust, wifi works in regular install. I am trying to use minimalCD16:47
BeldarAaruni, any wifi can be hacked period for one.16:47
Slamd64It happens when I get to desktop. thanks in advance16:47
loai am trying to setup ssh access using keys, but my problem when i set 0770 on my home dir user, authorisation stop working16:47
loawhat can be a problem?16:47
loai don't want any other users to enter my home dir.16:48
AaruniBeldar, so, this is possible? or are you pointing out the venerability of the wi-fi router ?16:48
NyonsAh man, I am sad. Jon Snow will die in tonights episode :(16:49
BeldarAaruni, Just a general comment. ;)16:49
MonkeyDustNyons  wrong channel16:49
Nyonsoh wait16:49
Beldar!ot > Nyons16:49
ubottuNyons, please see my private message16:49
Nyonsbloody tabs16:49
remuxahow do i silence the "programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software" message in bash?16:50
Beldarturn off the tv and back away slowly16:50
Aarunidaftykins, MonkeyDust, so, is it possible to enable the wifi interface in minimal CD ?16:50
theTroyany way to easily rip DVD by just dumping RAW output without encoding? trying handbrake but there is no option for RAW it has to encode...16:50
remuxaediting /etc/motd, /var/run/motd.dynamic, and /etc/init.d/motd didn't help16:50
MonkeyDustremuxa  is that the motd (message of the day)?16:50
compdocremuxa, its that the message of the day? MOTD?16:50
remuxayes, and it's annoying since it appears twice at each logon16:51
daftykinsAaruni: not without a lot of unnecessary hassle16:51
trismremuxa: /etc/update-motd.d/16:51
remuxaso basically create a motd file in that directory, then?16:52
Aarunidaftykins, or, is it possible to install from regular CD, then strip it to minimal install level, and then build back on it ?16:52
sig357Hello community. What is the fastest protocol to use for transfering files via LAN network. I would like it to be mountable as well. I have been using smb and I seem to max out at 11mb/s on large files. nfs is about the same. Any ideas? Would sftp be an improvement is transfer rates? thanks16:52
p5yxubuntu minimal fails to install in kvm because it cannot install the base system. it isn't able to install the kernel. any help?16:52
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MonkeyDustsig357  better ask in ##networking, i guess16:53
sig357Thanks for the ip!16:53
daftykinsAaruni: so you can't just temporarily put this laptop beside a router cabled in?16:53
trismremuxa: I was thinking look for the message there and remove it, I can't say exactly where to look because none of my systems have it16:53
compdocremuxa, there should be files already in /etc/update-motd.d16:53
Aarunidaftykins, would be a hassle16:53
compdocits a directory16:54
Nyonssig357: FTP16:54
Slamd64it seems I have found the problem. for some unknown reason seahorse locked my home folder on login so I have to enter password. So I just checked a box to unlock at login so it seems to be solution.16:54
daftykinsAaruni: sorry, i can't help those making things harder for themselves unnecessarily.16:54
Aaruniand I don't know how long it will take to download, daftykins, at a 256 KBPS connection16:54
sig357Nyons, thank you16:54
Beldardaftykins, Or harder to get help.16:54
daftykinsAaruni: if you must continue, use "ifconfig -a" to see if you have a wireless interface when booted to minimal, then look into wpa_supplicant for connecting to a network16:55
sig357*Thanks for the tip* not "ip"16:55
remuxaas yet i do not see the text I mentioned in any of those files16:57
Nyonssig357. You said your connection max out at 11MB ??16:57
NyonsProbably not a protocol issue. You ports are set at 100Mbit/s. Which means you get just over 10MBytes/s. Change you port speed to 1Gbit/s16:58
sig357on large files yes.16:58
sig357how do I change the port speed?16:59
sig357I have a gigabit network...16:59
NyonsIs your cable cat5e or cat 6?16:59
daftykinsNyons: that doesn't even affect gigabit :P16:59
Nyonsthen the devices that are connecting. Do they even have gigabit port?16:59
trismremuxa: hmm is it the text in /etc/legal you are seeing?17:00
Nyonsyes its does. cat5 only supports max 100Mbit17:00
daftykinsNyons: also incorrect.17:00
Nyonsyou need cat5e or Cat 617:00
daftykinsNyons: no, that's only over the full 100M lengths. please don't spread FUD17:00
remuxatrism: apparently it is, thank you!17:00
Brefdid somebody get 14.04 running using nvidia driver?`17:01
daftykinsBref: i'm sure lots of people have. what's the problem?17:01
Nyonswhat is the max speed for cat5 then?17:01
daftykinsNyons: it'll still function at gigabit over shorter distances, at 100 metres it'll probably auto negotiate slower or just not be as effective17:02
sig357the cables are cat 5e17:03
Nyonsnow check the port speed17:03
sig357testing with nttcp now one sec.17:03
smiremd_phoneStill MIGHT function, you mean. You cannot guarantee they will perform beyond rated spec.17:03
Brefdaftykins: this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/129763017:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1262068 in Ubuntu GNOME "duplicate for #1297630 nvidia-prime should support gdm also" [Medium,Triaged]17:04
Brefif I install ubuntu GNOME 14.04 on my lenovo W530 and later install the nvidia driver I have a black screen17:05
daftykinsBref: ah, i own a very similar laptop, that's an nvidia optimus system, you can't just install nvidia drivers. you need to look into either nvidia-prime or bumblebee17:05
Brefdaftykins: yes but as far as I know nvidia-prime uses lightdm which is not working with gnome17:06
daftykinsBref: i see, i guess you can't use gnome then!17:06
Brefdaftykins: look like. I give unity a try. looks like there is no other way (always the same story after every major update )17:07
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daftykinsBref, in fairness optimus doesn't work well with anything :(17:08
Brefdaftykins: acutally I dont even want to use optimus17:09
Brefdafykins: I switch to the nvidia card in bios. I need this because of the vga port (beamer, 2nd screen, you know...)17:09
daftykinsBref, ah, my U36SD doesn't actually have such settings in the BIOS. but yeah, VGA port comes off the nvidia chip afaik17:10
efrainhi friends17:11
Brefdaftykins: yeah, somehow atm it is not working with the nvidia card even when the intel chip is disabled17:12
sjoshiHello, Ubuntu software center has crashed17:18
sjoshiI was trying to install shutter on Xubuntu14.0417:19
daftykinssjoshi, kill it and run "sudo apt-get install shutter" via terminal instead perhaps17:19
dk0r_anyone succesfully gotten their tablet-pc's integrated wacom digitizer working? The 'Tablet PC' and 'Wacom' arch-wiki's appear quite dated17:19
sjoshidaftykins: First i tried that only, it didnt worked17:20
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sjoshii got this -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7484582/17:21
ratskinmahoneybref: i'm also using a W530. happily working with a nvidia driver nvidia-331, onboard graphics disabled in bios and no fiddling other than that17:21
sjoshiFew days, thunar also crashed the similar way17:22
daftykinsratskinmahoney, that's nice, but every optimus system has a different implementation and BIOS so they can't really be compared17:22
sjoshiFew days back*17:22
daftykinssjoshi, looks like your setup is a little confused17:23
daftykinssjoshi, did you recently upgrade?17:23
sjoshiFresh install Xubuntu14.04 and then normal upgrades17:23
someHumanHelp!17:24
someHumanI get this error when trying to open VBox.17:24
someHumanhttp://imgur.com/lkZ5osC17:24
ratskinmahoneydaftykins: ah fair enough, thought there might possibly be some value in detailing my bios settings, but not an area I know much about, other than that i had to fiddle a little to get it working17:24
sjoshidaftykins: But i any of the case UBuntu Software Centre shouldn't been crashed17:27
sjoshibe*17:27
sjoshiAnyways, I have choosen to send the error report.. may be ubuntu official will see it useful17:28
ratskinmahoneydaftykins: wait, tis exactly the same machine. surely optimus and bios will be very similar if not identical?17:28
RuPeRtereranyone run xbmc on ubuntu17:28
bekksRuPeRterer: What if someone does?17:28
daftykinssjoshi, not if your system is stable no, but perhaps it crashed due to a very messed up package setup on your system17:29
daftykinsratskinmahoney, W530? i thought i'd read asus U36JC or similar before17:30
ratskinmahoney18:05 < Bref> if I install ubuntu GNOME 14.04 on my lenovo W53017:30
Geoat bootup, when grub states 'file not found', which file is it referring to? ie, which file am I looking in, to fix?17:31
ratskinmahoney(not meaning to be a pedant), just checking i hadn't missed anything17:31
xenocodehy all17:31
someHumanHello!17:31
melow01I accidentally typed my password into the username field when logging into Ubuntu, does Ubuntu log that failed attempt to login? Like, is my password now sitting in a text file somewhere?17:31
ratskinmahoneyBref: if you want i can reboot an double-check my bios settings, as there are a couple of things to set17:31
someHumanI have this error whenever I try to use VBox http://imgur.com/lkZ5osC17:31
someHumanCan someone help me?17:32
RuPeRtereranyone run xbmc on ubuntu17:32
TehNubKillayes17:32
bekkssomeHuman: Restore your backup of the named xml file.17:32
someHumanbekks: How?17:33
TehNubKillaRuPeRterer: what do you want to know17:33
bekkssomeHuman: By copying back that file from your backup.17:33
someHumanbekks: I haven't done a backup. -_-17:33
bekkssomeHuman: Then you can only close vbox, and delete thaht file. Afterwards, you have to add all vms again.17:34
someHumanbekks: Crap! I deleted that because I lacked space earlier while trying to virtualize a client OS and server side.17:34
someHumanI just reinstalled VBox from Software Centre.17:35
bekkssomeHuman: Why did you reinstall vbox? It doesnt recreate that file magically.17:35
RuPeRtereri have intel 460017:35
RuPeRtererjust worried about issues17:35
GeoRuPeRterer: you'll probably be better off joining #xbmc and asking there17:35
bekksRuPeRterer: Do you have any issues running xbmc?17:35
RuPeRtererk17:35
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someHumanbekks: What do I do then?17:36
bekkssomeHuman: I told you what to do.17:36
someHumanbekks: Should I remove VBox now?17:36
someHumanWhat do you mean by vms17:36
bekkssomeHuman: No, WHY?17:36
someHumanvms?*17:36
bekkssomeHuman: "vms" mean "virtual machines".17:37
someHumanI already deleted the .xml file.17:37
someHumanHow do I add the vms?17:37
bekkssomeHuman: WHY?17:37
someHumanWhere do I get it?17:37
someHumanI remember deleting the virtualbox folder earlier because it's where the files of the virtualized machines are.17:38
bekkssomeHuman: what are you actually doing? you are telling that you deleted that file, you reinstalled vbox, and so on. Write less, read more. did you delete that file - yes or no?17:38
someHumanYes.17:38
bekkssomeHuman: So you deleted all virtial machines already - yes or no?17:38
someHumanyes17:38
bekkssomeHuman: Then you are fine. Start vbox and start using it.17:38
someHumanStill doesn't work.17:38
bekkssomeHuman: Define "still doesnt work".17:39
someHumanShows the same error.17:39
bekkssomeHuman: Then you did not do what I told you to do. I told you to stop virtualbox. That means: close the gui, and stop the vbox daemon, by running "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop"17:40
bekksThen remove that .xml file, start the daemon, start the gui.17:40
linuxuser_hello everyone...17:42
atekHi guys, so apparently in ubuntu 14.04 they have increase the password complexity requirements. I am building this machine for home use for my kids. I really don't agree that a desktop OS not joined to an enterprise administration server should be telling me what passwords I cannot use. Is there a way to loosen these reqs?17:42
linuxuser_somebody help me pls..17:42
someHumanbekks: sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found17:42
someHumanI already closed the VBox GUI.17:43
linuxuser_i wanna install tor browser in my ubuntu 13.04.. but it says some error...17:43
linuxuser_please help me friends17:43
bekkssomeHuman: So you install virtualbox from the ubuntu repos, I guess?17:43
someHumanbekks: Yup.17:43
bekkslinuxuser_: First upgrade to a supported release, then ask again.17:43
bekks!raring | linuxuser_17:43
ubottulinuxuser_: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring17:43
linuxuser_i've upgraded it bro.. bekks...17:43
bekkssomeHuman: I strongly suggest to install the latest official virtualbox version from the official website.17:44
someHumanbekks: Ok.17:44
linuxuser_bekks.. i've upgraded my ubuntu.. but still it says some error..17:44
bekkslinuxuser_: you did not, since you said: "i wanna install tor browser in my ubuntu 13.04". I am not your "bro".17:44
atekanyone on the password complexity question?17:44
linuxuser_sorry sir bekks17:44
bekkslinuxuser_: Pastebin "lsb_release -a" and the specific error you get please. "some error" is nothing we can help you with.17:44
linuxuser_i will tell that error17:45
bekkslinuxuser_: Pastebin it.17:45
bekks!pastebin | linuxuser_17:45
ubottulinuxuser_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:45
linuxuser_pastebin??17:45
bekkslinuxuser_: And pastebin "lsb_release -a" before.17:45
linuxuser_Reading package lists... Done17:46
linuxuser_Building dependency tree17:46
linuxuser_Reading state information... Done17:46
linuxuser_E: Unable to locate package tor-browser17:46
bekkslinuxuser_: STOP spamming the channel.17:46
linuxuser_its the error sir17:46
bekkslinuxuser_: USE a pastebin. Thank you.17:46
linuxuser_ok sir17:46
bekkslinuxuser_: And put the output of "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin. As I ask you three times now.17:47
MonkeyDust!info tor-browser17:47
ubottuPackage tor-browser does not exist in trusty17:47
linuxuser_No LSB modules are available.17:47
linuxuser_Distributor ID:Ubuntu17:47
linuxuser_Description:Ubuntu 13.0417:47
linuxuser_Release:13.0417:47
linuxuser_Codename:raring17:47
atekUhm... I just want to give my kids simple passwords... can anyone help?17:47
linuxuser_lsb_release sir17:47
unopastelinuxuser_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted17:47
Beldarlinuxuser_, Do not use terms like bro or sir, this is a worldwide channel, that is inappropriate.17:48
k1l!eol | linuxuser_17:48
xangualinuxuser_: please upgrade to a supported ubuntu release17:48
ubottulinuxuser_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:48
bekkslinuxuser_: Ok, I set you onto ignore since you obviously just want to spam this channel. Good luck.17:48
MonkeyDustlinuxuser_  you're looking for something that does not exist, in a release that's no longer supported17:48
linuxuser_pls some body help me17:48
xanguaatek: just add users via terminal https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Command-line17:49
linuxuser_fuck you asshole .. bekks17:49
bazhang!eolupgrades | linuxuser_17:49
ubottulinuxuser_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:49
Pessimistatek: sudo passwd <username> :)17:49
bazhanglinuxuser_, thats NEVER acceptable here17:49
linuxuser_which is not acceptable bazhang17:50
atekAhh thanks xangua and Pessimist17:50
bazhangswearing at others linuxuser_17:50
Beldaratek, Can you be more detailed?17:50
linuxuser_i'm sorry bazhang17:50
bazhanglinuxuser_, your system is end of life, upgrade to a supported version17:50
linuxuser_that guy blamed me so only17:50
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades <----- linuxuser_17:51
Pessimistatek: I think in system settings there is a seperate section for user accounts and you should be able to do everything from there (create new ones, change passwords)17:51
linuxuser_end of version means>...17:51
bazhangread that link17:51
k1llinuxuser_: not a single security update for you.17:51
MonkeyDustlinuxuser_  your ubuntu is dead, no longer supported17:51
atekBeldar When attempting to use the UI for user accounts by default they are disabled after creation. When attempting to enable by setting the passwords the UI states "Not good enough" in regards to the password strength17:51
linuxuser_what i've to do17:51
bazhanglinuxuser_, I told you17:51
linuxuser_i've to upgrade bazhang??17:52
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <---- linuxuser_17:52
bazhanglinuxuser_, read that link and upgrade17:52
Beldaratek, Ah, well we are not going to tel you how to bypass "Not good enough" You giving them admin accounts?17:52
linuxuser_i'm a new user mr.bazhang so only lot of confusion17:52
bazhanglinuxuser_, so read the link17:53
atekBeldar, no they are not getting admin accounts, I have the admin account. I find it odd that a desktop distro for personal use does not allow a bypass of password complexity. I work as a network admin (windows), enterprise/business is the only place that should be required and is determined by legal compliance requirements or if not applicable Owners choice17:54
Beldaratek, Nice rhetoric, however an opinion.17:55
Beldarhonestly kids can probably remember a password better than an adult by a certain age17:56
soultitaniumjust tape it to the monitor ;)17:56
soultitaniumthat's what everyone does at work17:56
atekHahaha, well I don't want the kids accessing each others accounts17:56
bah_are there any alternatives to nano and vim for edit files in terminal ?17:56
bazhang!find stickynotes17:56
ubottuFile stickynotes found in gnome-applets, gnome-applets-data, gnome-applets-dbg17:56
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Pessimistbah_: http://xkcd.com/378/17:57
atekBeldar, please explain how my retort in regards to complexity is rhetoric as you say? Is linux not about choice? therefore am I not free to choose the complexity requirements of my own machine?17:58
BeldarPessimist, That is considered spam here.17:58
ratskinmahoneyatek: it can be bypassed, it just shouldn't be, I think is the advice.17:58
heliosmartinez     Password characters should be a combination of alphanumeric characters. Alphanumeric characters consist of letters, numbers, punctuation marks, mathematical and other conventional symbols. See implementation below for the exact characters referred to.17:58
heliosmartinez    For change password functionality, if possible, keep a history of old passwords hashes used. You should not store the actual passwords to protect against brute forcing if the database file is compromised. In this way, the user cannot change to a password that was used a couple of months back.17:58
atekratskinmahoney I understand that but please understand this is not a critical machine17:58
Pessimistatek: just use sudo passwd <username> then17:59
Pessimisto wait, it checks for complexity too (man passwd)17:59
ratskinmahoneyatek: fair. I think it checks, Pessimist, but does not enforce18:00
bah_Pessimist, yes I know there are a lot of editors and I use gedit.  my question is if there are any alternatives to vim and nano edit files from the terminal/shell18:00
ratskinmahoneyat any rate running passwd as root allows me to set a users password to whatever i want18:00
ateksudo passwd <username> was successful18:00
someHumanbekks: I am trying to install the downloaded VBox from the Oracle, but software centers says the former VBox still exists or at least a package.18:00
bekkssomeHuman: So uninstall the formerly installed vbox packages.18:01
atekThank you all for the assistance and letting me express my opinion18:01
someHumanbekks: I already un-installed VBox earlier, probably there's a package that stands on it's own somewhere.18:01
someHumanWhat terminal command can I use to search my system for potential VBox files?18:02
bekkssomeHuman: dpkg -l | grep virtualbox18:02
Pessimistbah_: a ton: emacs, vi, ed, etc18:02
ice9how to direct an application audio output to headphones while the speakers are working too?18:02
someHumanbekks: http://imgur.com/3vvbCG818:03
bekkssomeHuman: As you can clearly see, you did NOT uninstall vbox.18:03
someHumanbekks: I thought I did, sorry am a noob.18:04
someHumanbekks: How do I remove those?18:04
bekkssomeHuman: Using the software center.18:04
Beldarratskinmahoney, Ubuntu is designed to not have a root password using one is not a good idea.18:05
ahadoopUbuntu 14.04 LTS and NVIDIA fail (again)?!18:05
bekksahadoop: Define "fail".18:05
Beldar!details >ahadoop18:05
ubottuahadoop, please see my private message18:05
PessimistsomeHuman: sudo apt-get remove <package 1> <package 2> ... <package n>18:05
ahadoopbekks: cannot install nvidia driver on my w530. black screen18:06
bah_Pessimist,  ed is totally outdated, but emacs, can you run that one in terminal ? I use zsh as a bash replacement18:06
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Pessimistbah_: yep18:07
ahadoopDid somebody succeed in installing 14.04 with working nvidia drivers?18:07
nith1210ahadoop: I'm running 14.04 with nvidia drivers right now. GTX 570.18:07
k1lahadoop: i bet there is at least one :)18:08
Beldarahadoop, This is not a polling channel stop and address your actual issue, and name the graphic card.18:08
Beldarah cool you have now18:08
ratskinmahoneyBeldar: yes, I know. I think the advice given was clear enough that this is possible, rather than advised. (in light of preceding conversation)18:09
bah_Pessimist, i can't find any info about emacs, only vim and nano.  http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/nano-vs-vim-terminal-text-editors-compared/18:09
ratskinmahoneyahadoop: disable onboard graphics and graphics switching in bios. this works on my W53018:10
ahadoopBeldar: I have a Lenovo W530 with an Intel chip and Nvidia K2000M. Running ubuntu 13.10 using nvidia drivers (proprietary) worked without problems (I need the Nvidia chip because my external VGA is wired to this card!). If I try to install 14.04 I can not even boot into the installer. I just get a black screen. everything works if I dsiable the card in the bios.18:10
Beldarratskinmahoney, It does no good to feed a person bent on just breaking basic protection, they claim to be a windows admin, let them figure it out, don't just feed you ego.18:11
Beldaryour*18:11
ahadoopratskinmahoney: An how do you use your laptop in a presentation on a beamer with your VGA port wired to the Nvidia chip=18:11
ratskinmahoneyBeldar: apologies. Point taken.18:11
Pessimistratskinmahoney: heh, your guess is correct18:11
nith1210ahadoop: Have you tried nomodeset when opening up the installer?18:13
bekksahadoop: "cannot install driver" and "black screen" are pretty contrary. Cant you install the driver and you get a error message - or can you install the driver and get a black screen on next reboot?18:14
ratskinmahoneyahadoop: i avoid using nvidia settings and use xrandr commands to change an y display settings. i don't know if that is 'advisable' but it works with no significant problems.18:14
ahadoopbekks: I can not install the driver when my NVIDIa card is set in the bios. I can install the driver when I enable both graphics in the bios. but when I restart after installing the driver the screen turns black again18:15
bekksahadoop: So which nvidia chipset very exactly do you have?18:15
ahadoopbekks: quadro K2000M18:16
melow01I accidentally typed my password into the username field when logging into Ubuntu, does Ubuntu log that failed attempt to login? Like, is my password now sitting in a text file somewhere?18:16
bekksahadoop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207322418:16
oeoecould someone help me with my issues in dmesg????18:16
oeoehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7484847/18:16
bekksoeoe: That depends on the issues.18:16
bekksoeoe: Pastebin "dmesg" please, not some useless stripped down excerpt.18:17
oeoeok sorry18:17
ahadoopbekks: thanks, but thats quite old. Everything worked fine in 13.04.18:17
Debolazmelow01: This is a good reason why you should have 1 password per site, so when stuff like that happens, you only need to change it that one place.18:18
oeoebekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/7484864/18:19
BeldarDebolaz, How is that even relative?18:19
melow01Debolaz, ok but is my password now sitting in a log file somewhere in Ubuntu?18:19
KabraxisHey there18:19
Beldarmelow01, Change the password with passwd in the terminal18:19
KabraxisDoes anyone have a good tutorial on removing ecryptfs from home/ubuntu 14.04 altogether?18:20
Kabraxisor make it less agressive?18:20
guilleBuenas18:21
guilleHOLAAA18:21
Jordan_UKabraxis: What do you mean by "less aggressive"?18:22
melow01Beldar, thanks, but is my password now sitting in a log file somewhere in Ubuntu?18:22
KabraxisIt locke everything whenever I do something, even when I open Nautilus18:22
Kabraxislocks*18:22
_TristanI get an error when I do "wget -O - {ur} | dpkg -i -" does anybody know the correct way to install a deb from a url from the command line?18:23
oeoebekks what do you think about the dmesg errors??18:23
Beldarmelow01, Not sure, I would just change it and call it a day if you are worried.18:23
melow01Beldar, ok thanks18:23
someHumanbekks: What the heck?!18:24
enpgreetings18:24
someHumanbekks: Still get the same error.18:24
someHumanenp: Hey there!18:24
bekkssomeHuman: Thats expected. Since you did not remove the broken xml file yet.18:24
caelian2gey guys, d oyou think that serving a mirror with lighttpd is a good idea? Will lighttpd be able to handle it?18:24
bekkscaelian2: If you have a box powerful enough of handling the traffic, why dont you use a real webserver? :)18:25
nith1210ahadoop: Have you tried nomodeset when opening up the installer?18:25
Beldar_Tristan, Are you sure what your installing is not in the repos?18:26
caelian2bekks: good idea18:26
_Tristanyes18:26
ahadoopnith1210: no, I did not try this. But when I start with NVIDIA Optimus selected in the Bios I can install the driver. But after the restart I have a black screen.18:26
caelian2bekks: mainly because I already have set up lighttpd for my WP-blog :|18:26
Beldar_Tristan, use nicks here please.18:26
caelian2but ok, gonna set up nginx18:26
bekkscaelian2: I'd just use apache.18:27
_Tristan_Beldar: Sorry18:29
oeoebekks: have you check my problem??18:29
_Tristanoops18:29
caelian2bekks: hahaha, that was a joke, right? :P machine may be powerful, but that's not a reason why I'd just waste resources by running apache on it :P18:29
nith1210ahadoop: So lets make sure we're on the same page. The installer would not work with your nvidia card enabled. You disabled it and used the onboard intel card to install ubuntu18:30
bekksoeoe: You have a BIOS which has a broken ACPI implementation.18:30
bekkscaelian2: No, it wasnt a joke,.18:30
nith1210ahadoop: then you installed the nvidia drivers after the fact, reenabled the card, and you're getting a black screen?18:30
oeoebekks: and how could I fix it???18:30
bekksoeoe: By upgrading your BIOS.18:30
ahadoopnith1210: yes, but I did not swithc to the intel card, instead I switched to the nvidia optimus option. otherwise it will not work because there will be not active nvidia card anyway.18:31
Beldar_Tristan, I do see some old links on the web about this, seems possible, but the general consensus I see is use a ubuntu installer since it's a deb. here is one, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117278018:31
_TristanBeldar: Thank you18:32
Beldarhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/51854/is-it-possible-to-install-a-deb-from-a-url   another _Tristan18:32
nith1210ahadoop: You mean after installing the nvidia drivers, you've not yet booted without the nvidia card enabled?18:32
Beldar_Tristan no problem hope one works. ;)18:32
oeoebekks: and I have another problem as you can see too in my dmesg it detects me that I have 3 HDMI outputs, but I only have one. I paste you also the outputs of aplay -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/7484963/18:33
ratskinmahoneyahadoop: have you tried switching to discrete graphics and optimus off?18:33
nith1210ahadoop: Please describe what you see on your screen before the screen goes black.18:33
_TristanBeldar: Got it from the second one, turns out mktemp is the way to go. Thanks again.18:33
bekksoeoe: You have to fix that broken BIOS first.18:33
nith1210ahadoop: as in, from the point you hit the power button, to the point darkness takes your display.18:33
ahadoopratskinmahoney: no option. I need the vga port for a second screen (beamer)18:33
oeoebekks: ok thanks!!18:33
Beldar_Tristan, Ah, yeah that one had more possibilities, cool, enjoy.18:34
ahadoopnith1210: boot from usb stick with 14.04 with nvidia on: black screen when it should start with the "loading dots" thing of the ubuntu splash screen. with intel on: no problem. with nvidia optimus on: no problem (it uses the intel card).18:35
ACCBiggzTrouble with Steam. Will not launch game. A ldd run shows "libsteam_api.so => not found" - Paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7483922/18:35
nith1210ahadoop: "From usb stick"; an installer?18:36
ratskinmahoneyahadoop: the nvidia card is th discrete graphics card, optimus is the graphics card switching stuff. i have discrete graphics and optimus off. in this way i am using the nvidia card only18:36
ahadoopnith1210: a bootable usb stick with ubuntu 14.04.18:37
someHumanbekks: I went into installed tabs of software center and removed all of the virtualbox results.18:37
ahadoopratskinmahoney: with the discrete graphics on I see a black screen when the splash screen of ubuntu should be18:37
someHumanIt should remove all of vbox files in my system.18:37
bekkssomeHuman: It will NOT remove any personal files. Never.18:38
someHumanArgh, where is that?! :(18:38
bekkssomeHuman: Thats why I told you what to do, which you havent followed until now.18:38
dw1someHuman: remove != purge18:38
bekkssomeHuman: The error message clearly tells you.18:38
bekksdw1: and purge will never remove personal files, too.18:38
dw1remove / purge != hammer18:39
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nith1210ahadoop: have you installed bumblebee?18:41
DebolazIs it possible to enable bluetooth keyboards during the LUKS (Ie, full disk encryption) password prompt?18:42
someHumanbekks: Done it! Thanks!18:42
nith1210ahadoop: also, have you read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus; notibly the section under "GNU/Linux support"18:42
ratskinmahoneyahadoop: ok. i get a terminal style splash screen rather than the normal one, and then greeter opens normally. Trying to remember what else i might have done when setting up.18:42
nullbyte_does ubuntu 14.04 haves basic video driver option for installation18:53
wolsyes18:54
nullbyte_wols: how18:54
Geoif grub tells me 'no such device' and lists a UUID, what file would that be coming from?18:54
wolsGeo: your grub.cfg18:54
wolsnullbyte_: do you have a specific question?18:55
qstrahlI'm having problems with Mplayer; when I open a file, it says "playing" but never starts actually playing. I can move around in the file, stop and start, but it never plays. Halp?18:55
Geoand where is that located?18:55
nullbyte_when i trying to start installation from ubuntu 14.04 cd on boot, i got silver sreen who freezes with mouse cursor18:55
wolsGeo: you do not edit it directly18:55
wols!fixmbr18:55
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:55
nullbyte_and it loads nothing18:55
nullbyte_exactly moment with nouveau loading driver18:55
wolsGeo: the important command is "update-grub" which can fix this18:55
Geoso what file am I editing to change that old UUID then?18:56
nullbyte_with GUI setup installation, how to start video basic setup installation?18:56
Jay_hey, i did sudo apt-get install xfce4 and i didnt get it booting into XFCE418:56
nullbyte_video basic driver18:56
nullbyte_wols..18:56
Geowhat is grub-update pulling from18:56
wolsGeo: you do not editing anything18:56
Geowols: I need to edit something. grub is trying to load a drive that is no longer there. How do I tell it that it is no lnoger there?18:57
mozanullbyte_, did you check the compatibility of your machine (screen, motherboard etc.) with ubuntu ?18:57
psusiGeo, run sudo update-grub18:57
nullbyte_moza yes18:57
mozanullbyte_, normally it works automatically (the video drivers)18:58
Geopsusi, I've done that already18:58
GeoI'm trying to ask what that is looking at, when it updates grub18:58
Geobecause its looking at something that is no longer there18:58
psusiGeo, it looks at your drives18:58
mozabut sometimes it's required to install or do something extra, and often the instructions are given by model of your hardware18:58
moza-_-18:58
Geodoes running grub-update from a live cd cause issues?18:59
wolsGeo: no you don't. you need to boot from a livecd or similar and and follow the factoid and in the end run update-grub18:59
psusiGeo, it would have no effect18:59
wolsGeo: not if you do it right. which is why ubottu told you what to do18:59
wolspsusi: it has an effect18:59
psusiunless you mean from a live cd while chrooted into your hd18:59
Geowols: have you read that link? it certainly does not say what to do19:00
Geoits very informative about grub, but doesn't tell me what to do19:00
psusiGeo, what exactly is the problem again?19:00
Geoswapping out drives, on reboot grub errors, and says it was looking for a UUID of an old HD19:01
GeoI just ran update-grub again, from the live cd, non-chroot'd19:01
Geois that what you meant? or should I chroot?19:01
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whoeverGeo: then you need to ssh in or get in to grub and edit the uuid to fix, that error19:01
Geowhoever: and I'm being told by the others that that is not possible.19:02
wolsyou chroot into your ubuntu installation and run update-grub there, yes19:02
wolsyou can edit grub from the grub menu and boot once and then run update-grub too. you cannot ssh in since the ubuntu installation isn't booting obviously19:02
whoeverGeo: it is if you had a boot drive or any drive die that booted via uuid and you just changed the drive and tried to boot , the fstab still has the entry of the old uuid19:03
psusiGeo, running it from the live cd does nothing since grub is not installed there.. you have to run it from the hd... if you can't boot from the hd, then you can simulate it by chrooting into the hd from the livecd19:04
Geoyes, doing that now, thanks19:04
whoeverGeo: what wols is saying is that will fix where grub is looking for the boot image19:04
ripthejackerHi guys19:05
TehNubKillagi huys19:06
ripthejackerEverytime I open nautilus, I can see the hidden files.19:06
TehNubKillaand thats a bad thing?19:06
ripthejackereven if I turn off 'show hidden files' the next time I open my home dir, it's still visible.19:06
TehNubKilladid you reboot?19:06
ripthejackerTehNubKilla: it's not bad, but it's not what I want19:06
ripthejackerTehNubKilla: reboot after?19:07
nith1210ripthejacker: Does "CTRL+H" toggle them on you?19:07
ripthejackernith1210: yes.19:07
ripthejackernith1210: it's hidden temporarily, but If I open a new session of nautilus, it's still visible.19:07
Yeluripthejacker, did you make it permanent via Nautilus menu "Edit" => "Preferences" => "Views" tab?19:09
linuxuser_hi19:10
ripthejackerYelu: :| , sorry for being a noob.19:10
ripthejackerYelu: never knew such an option existed19:10
ripthejackerYelu: thanks it worked.19:11
Yeluripthejacker, aren't we all?19:11
Jordan_UGeo: What exactly happens when you try to boot?19:11
Bashing-omlinuxuser_: Hello !19:11
ripthejackerpretty sure I didn't toggle that option.19:11
linuxuser_hi bash19:11
GeoJordan_U: varying things, depending on what i've done19:11
GeoI believe where i'm at now is that it just doesn't boot at all19:11
Geohangs after 'boot from cd' option, (there is none in the drive) so it just sits there19:12
Jordan_UGeo: It sounds like you just need to run grub-install properly.19:12
linuxuser_hi Bashing-om19:12
Jordan_UGeo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot19:12
Bashing-omlinuxuser_: What's up ? Support ?19:13
Jordan_UGeo: But the results from boot info script might be enlightening as well.19:13
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Geo19:13
ubottuGeo: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).19:13
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linuxuser_Bashing will u come for pvt chat pls??19:13
Bashing-omlinuxuser_: Better in channel, - peer review !19:14
Geook Jordan_U, sorry19:14
Geowhat I get (looking at the screen)19:14
Geoerror: no such device: <<UUID>>19:14
Geoand then the grub_rescue prompt19:14
Geothats actually where i'm at right now19:14
Geothat UUID is a drive that was removed19:15
Geobut formerly held the boot partition on it19:15
wolsJordan_U: it's not grub-install which updates the grub.cfg. one needs update-grub for that19:15
meek_geekthe issue is i can download .epub from en.flossmanuals.net and they work great but .epub my friend just sent me and the i created are .epub but not only linux distro but my android phone is treating them as Archives wtf ?19:15
Jordan_Uwols: And it's not the grub.cfg that's Geo's problem. If they're at a grub rescue shell then grub wasn't able to find its /boot/grub/ to be able to read the grub.cfg in the first place.19:16
Jordan_UGeo: So grub's core.img is still configured to look for its /boot/grub/ on the old drive. Re-running grub-install (properly) is the way to fix this.19:17
GeoJordan_U, when using a raid, should the boot partition (raid 1) be listed as a linux partition, or raid partition in fdisk?19:18
Geoand I mean bootable partition, not /boot19:18
Jordan_UGeo: What do you mean by bootable?19:19
GeoThe drive that boots the machine19:19
Geodoes grub look/care at the type in fdisk?19:19
Jordan_UGeo: But you were talking about partitions. BIOSs boot from drives, not partitions. My guess is you're thinking of the "active flag", which grub indeed does not care about (and neither does your BIOS unless it's buggy).19:20
Geothanks19:20
Jordan_UGeo: You're welcome.19:21
deltHello19:22
delt  Could not find GLEW library files19:22
deltGLEW is in fact installed.... 14.0419:22
Geoon a slightly different topic, if a partition doesn't end on a cylinder boundary, does that matter?19:22
MonkeyDust!find glew19:23
ubottuFound: libglew-dbg, libglew-dev, libglew1.10, libglewmx-dbg, libglewmx-dev19:23
Jordan_UGeo: No, "cylinders" don't actually exist in modern drives.19:23
Geothanks19:23
delt-- GLEW include files found at /usr/local/include19:24
deltCMake Error at src/CMakeLists.txt:259 (message): Could not find GLEW library files19:24
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Geofor i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done   <-- would it make sense i need to make mount points first to mount each of those dirs to?19:27
Geooh, nm19:28
GeoI see where its going19:28
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Geois grub-install --re-check /dev/md0 valid here? or should I choose one of the physical disks (sdf, in this case)19:30
Geothis may be where I went awry last time19:30
soultitaniumHi - I have a program installed on two boxes - one is running something like ubuntu 8 and the other is running 14.04.  When I look at top, the process using around 80% of the processor and the other using 110% on 14.04.  Anyone have any suggestions as to what's going on?19:31
soultitaniumhardware is the same19:31
GeoOR if i read the next line19:31
Geosorry again19:31
Beldarsoultitanium, ubuntu 8 is eol, what is the program?19:32
Beldarubuntu 8 is nlot relevant nor supported19:32
Beldarnot*19:32
OerHeksi think he uses unity 8 ?19:33
scarecrow54689wow. my first IRC chat19:33
principetest19:33
soultitaniumBeldar, whether it's supported is one thing, but why is it running so much faster?19:33
BeldarOerHeks, Ah, could be.19:33
Beldarsoultitanium, I asked you a question, answering with one does not help.19:33
OerHeks110% cpu power is not bad, if you have a 8-core ( 800% max)19:33
scarecrow54689how can I get a log of the previous chats?19:34
soultitaniumBeldar, btw, it's a previous install that was used 4 years ago - I'm resurrecting these boxes and making sure that the new ubuntu will do what it needs to do so I can phase out the old boxes, but it would be really nice to know why the old version is running the program so much more effeciently19:34
Beldarsoultitanium, WHAT IS THE PROGRAM< lol.19:34
OerHeksscarecrow54689, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/19:34
paradoxajdhello19:34
MonkeyDustsoultitanium  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic19:34
soultitaniumBeldar, it's a custom in-house program for processing images from a camera19:34
paradoxajdwhich is channel for arch linux ?19:35
GeoJordan_U ok, is there anything else I should check outside that FAQ before I reboot? anyway to verify things?19:35
OerHeks!alis | paradoxajd19:35
ubottuparadoxajd: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*19:35
paradoxajd!alis | arch19:35
ubottuarch: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*19:35
scarecrow54689Thank you @OerHeks19:36
Beldarsoultitanium, Thanks technically 3rd party stuff is not supported here, however if you can give the right details you may get help here.19:36
deltyesssss, got it to at least start compiling... :D19:36
soultitaniumBeldar, I guess my question is whether an old version of ubuntu should run software any faster, or am I looking at some configuration issue somewhere19:37
soultitaniumBeldar, would 14 be that much more slow than 8?19:37
GeoJordan_U, after following that FAQ, I am back to the grub rescue prompt, asking for the old UUID19:37
Georather, saying no such device (old UUID)19:38
Beldarsoultitanium, that would be an opinion. We don;t suggest eol's here.19:38
k1lsoultitanium: you dont have a choice since ubuntu 8.04 is out of support19:38
hgyufyc /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER hony gplpgednimoe19:38
KGM70scarecrow54689, just do /join #archlinux in the server textbox19:38
scarecrow54689#archlinux19:38
scarecrow54689Oops19:38
KGM70the server , not the chat19:39
soultitaniumbeldar, my goal is to get rid of version 8, but I'm trying to figure out why an application would run so much better on the old version.  Obviously I wouldn't want to stay on an eol os19:39
hgyufyc#aircrack-ng19:39
MonkeyDustsoultitanium  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic19:39
Beldarsoultitanium, Sure, this is beyond my help most likely, and the channels without any real details.19:39
soultitaniumok, lemme check in offtopic and see if anyone's got any ideas there.  thanks!19:39
wideyeshowdy y'all! Anyone available to give me some help on the 'nice' command and setting user limits with /etc/security/limits.conf?19:40
k1lsoultitanium: strip the modern ubuntu down. like disable services you dont need.19:40
ratskinmahoneyk1l: that shouldn't affect the cpu requirement of the application itself19:41
hgyufycI registered my neckname on freenode long ago i geuss 2 months ago  but when i use it i still can't access chanels like aircrack-ng WHY ???19:42
soultitaniumratskinmahoney, that's what I was thining - it's already got the bare minimum installed..19:42
k1lratskinmahoney: well yes. that is right. but with new ubuntu versions there are new program versions. so you should see why the program uses more ressource19:42
Beldarhgyufyc, ask #freenode19:42
k1lhgyufyc: you need to login. not register every time. please see #freenode on issue with that19:43
Geohgyufyc: a) this isnt the place to ask that type of question and b) you typed your msg command in here, instead of actually messaging NICKSERV, so we all now know your password.19:43
smiremd_phoneHow do I integrate Ubuntu's mail client with gmail? When I click mail to an address, I want it open that in gmail.19:44
duckchatsmiremd_phone: which email client, thunderbird?19:45
smiremd_phoneduckchat: I will accept any that work.19:45
wideyesanyone have any help for configuring /etc/security/limits.conf?19:46
smiremd_phonesoultitanium: Are you sure the old machine has sufficient hardware? Ubuntu mow needs 3d graphics acceleration. Did you try a lighter DE Ubuntu spin, like Lubuntu?19:46
duckchatsmiremd_phone: click email to?  are you talking about within nautilus?  file?19:47
KGM70smiremd_phone, using thunderbird won't open in gmail but it will fetch your emails from gmail and display them in thunderbird19:47
Jordan_UGeo: The device argument to grub-install specifies wehre grub's boot sector should be installed. Since your BIOS needs to load this boot sector, it needs to be in the MBR of a physical drive (your BIOS doesn't know anything about /dev/md0). So "grub-install /dev/sdX && grub-install /dev/sdY" where sdX is the first drive, and sdY the second.19:48
smiremd_phoneduckchat: For example, I click 'send document as email' from libreoffice. It opens tne regular ubuntu email client. I would like to replace thay behaviour with opening gmail.19:48
GeoJordan_U: yep, did it just like th19:48
Geoat19:48
Geobut still have the same error, 'no such device <<old UUID>>'19:48
Jordan_UGeo: Please pastebin the exact grub-install commands you ran and their output.19:48
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duckchatgive me a min19:48
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GeoI don't suppose you'll believe me if I say I followed that FAQ exactly, and no errors came up? :)19:49
Geogrub-install --re-check for each drive reported normal19:49
smiremd_phoneKGM70: I woukd like to replace the default functionality when clicking a mail link, to change it from opening ubuntu's default mail client, to opening gmail19:50
Jordan_UGeo: I'd like to see the full commands and full output.19:51
KGM70smiremd_phone, whynot just bookmark gmail in your browser19:51
duckchatsmiremd_phone: open gmail??  in the browser?19:51
smiremd_phonekgm70 duckchat Because that button will automatically fill in the email address for me, which opening the browser will not do19:53
smiremd_phoneKGM70: sorry I meant that for you as well but forgot to upcase your nick19:53
KGM70smiremd_phone, what button?19:53
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omar_Hi all.19:54
duckchatsmiremd_phone: I use Thunderbird as the default mail client.  configure thunderbird to use a gmail account and you should be good to go.19:54
xenolyseI don't have an option for twinview in my Nvidia X server settings. I've tried 331, 334 and 337 version of the drivers. Any suggestions on how I can enable twinview?19:54
smiremd_phoneKGM70: any of the mail buttons in any bundled ubuntu application: firefox, libreoffice etc. They all open the default mail client. I woild like to change fhe default mail client to gmail.19:55
KGM70duckchat, he wants to open the actual gmail as in a browser19:55
omar_I have just install kubuntu-desktop, and then decided to remove it and go back to Unity, but the windows and menus still seem kde-like. What can I do to fully retrieve my previous desktop?19:55
Beldarsmiremd_phone, gmail is on the web, it is not an app.19:55
smiremd_phoneduckchat: That does not have the same functionality as gmail in the browser.19:55
duckchatKGM70: I kinda thought that.19:55
ratskinmahoneysmiremd_phone: gnome-gmail is an option http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213020319:56
Jordan_UGeo: The RESULTS.txt from boot info script would be useful as well.19:56
smiremd_phoneratskinmahoney: Thanks. Looking at it.19:56
smiremd_phoneBeldar: From the users point of view, there is not reallt a difference these days.19:57
duckchatKGM70: I haven't used a browser for email in ages.  i use email client built into OS.19:57
Beldarsmiremd_phone, Really who are these users, and do they have any touch with reality. ;)19:57
KabraxisHey people, a really quick one19:58
smiremd_phoneratskinmahoney: That does EXACTLY what I wanted, thank you. It replaces the mail client with gmail and copies the to/from fields over.19:58
KabraxisSo I'm removing ecryptfs19:58
BartDudeHi, guys. Is there anything private in any of these logs or are they safe to share with others --> dmesg, daemon, and syslog?19:58
Kabraxisdoes $PRIVATE means I need to replace that word with my own folder name?19:58
KGM70duckchat, yup, as in thunderbird , no need to open the browser.19:58
Jordan_Uomar_: Change what session you use at the login screen. "sudo apt-get autoremove" might also remove all of the other packages that were installed by kubuntu-desktop (which is just a metapackage), but it might also remove other thing you still want, so read the list of packages carefully before continuing. (Or just be prepared to re-install things when you find they're gone, which isn't particularly difficult).19:59
ratskinmahoneysmirmemd_phone: cool. might try it myself19:59
KabraxisI mean, should "$ chmod 700 $PRIVATE" becomes " $ chmod 700 $KABRAXIS" or should i leave it as original?19:59
omar_Jordan_U, I already removed kubuntu-desktop, so what else should I auto-remove?20:00
smiremd_phoneduckchat: For usm we switched to gmail as it had additional features, we are using it in place of a groupware server and document management system20:01
Jordan_Uomar_: Literally just run "sudo apt-get autoremove". It removes all packages that were installed as dependencies of something else (rather than directly), but whose "something else" has since been removed.20:01
BartDudeHi, guys. Is there anything private in any of these logs or are they safe to share with others --> dmesg, daemon, and syslog?20:01
noiro_why after years is ubuntu still unable to play DVD's?20:02
smiremd_phonenoiro_: it does if you load the 'illegal' modules that the us govt doesnt allow20:02
Beldarnoiro_, ubnuntu plays dvd's has for a long time.20:03
ratskinmahoneyKabraxis: in what context? $PRIVATE is a variable, so you wouldn't just change the variable name, but you might need to assign it a value20:03
noiro_Where can I get a player which will play DVDs?20:03
k1l!dvd | noiro_20:03
ubottunoiro_: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:03
omar_Jordan_U, Just did it. It only remove one package which has nothing to do with my issue. :\20:04
Kabraxisratskinmahoney: I'm trying to remove ecryptfs, so it's about the chmod20:04
GeoJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485343/20:04
Beldarnoiro_, Not unlike other major OS, you need codecs on occasion.20:04
Jordan_Uomar_: Did you understand what I said about chosing a session at the login screen?20:04
GeoI hope you trust me that I followed the FAQ and mounted/chroot'd the filesystem20:04
GeoI included the fdisk of the two drives in question as well20:05
ratskinmahoneyKabraxis: if this is a command that you are supposed to be entering into the terminal then 'echo $PRIVATE' will tell you if $PRIVATE has a value20:05
omar_Jordan_U, Yes20:05
KabraxisOh, i see. Thanks20:05
GeoJordan_U: those two disks are intended to be in a mdadm raid 1 when this is all said and done20:05
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Geo20:05
ubottuGeo: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).20:05
smiremd_phoneratskinmahoney: Testing gnome-gmail now, it's in the Trusty repo.20:06
BartDudeSomeone PLEASE answer me.20:06
Beldar!patience > BartDude20:07
ubottuBartDude, please see my private message20:07
BartDudeBeldar: :O20:07
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smiremd_phoneratskinmahoney: Again thanks. Works20:08
random-spam6anybody know how to get rid of the "type to search" thing in gnome20:09
BeldarBartDude, in nautilus? a little context helps.20:10
the_drowAre there up to date graphviz binaries for 14.04?20:10
BartDudeBeldar: You need to tell me what nautilus is. :P20:10
the_drowI need 2.38 and I have 2.3620:10
BartDudeBeldar: A clean Ubuntu installation if that helps.20:10
BeldarBartDude, Home in ubuntu20:10
Beldarrandom-spam6, in nautilus? a little context helps.20:11
BeldarBartDude, I meant that to ^^^^^^^^^^^^20:11
Beldarmy mistake20:11
GeoJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/748536620:11
smiremd_phoneBartDude: Naultilus is the file manager. What Ubuntu calls 'windows explorer' or 'apple finder'.20:11
BartDudeBeldar: Does that help you? :)20:11
BartDudesmiremd_phone: Yeah, I guess that's it then.20:11
BartDudeI haven't changed anything.20:11
BeldarBartDude, I can clearly say if your concerns are valid in this context is all, if it were me I would just look what's there.20:12
GeoJordan_U: you'll only be intersted in /sda and /sdb; sda is still blank so its not surprsing it doesnt see anything as 'mountable' there20:12
Jordan_UGeo: grub-install /dev/sdc20:12
BartDudeBeldar: Look what's inside the logs?20:12
BeldarBartDude, Yeah.20:13
BartDudeAlien language to me.20:13
BartDude:/20:13
GeoJordan_U: I'm not intersted in trying to boot from those disks20:13
Geowhy am I doing that?20:13
BartDudeBeldar: I don't know! :(20:13
Geosdc is part of a raid5, i dont think i want to do that20:13
deadmundI'm looking for ssh access to an Ubuntu machine that I can use to compile ffmpeg (for free).  Any ideas?20:13
smiremd_phoneThey need to rename Nautilus. It should be named 'Ubuntu File Finder' or something. How is a new user supposed to know what Nautilus is?20:13
omar_Jordan_U, I have already chosen gnome as the default desktop. But actually KDE is still available as a desktop choice which means that it's still not completely removed, and it is still affecting my gnome desktop, making all windows appear and behave in a KDE manner.. :\20:13
BartDudeBeldar: So it's possible that I've been sharing private information? ;(20:13
BeldarBartDude, Cool, the channel may have help, you just have to wait sometimes is all, crack a cold one and enjoy. ;)20:13
Jordan_UGeo: Because your BIOS apparently is interested in booting from those disks. You're getting that error message because your BIOS is booting from one of sd{c,d,e,f}.20:14
BeldarBartDude, I would not empirically know.20:14
BartDudeCrap!20:14
BartDudeNow I'm scared.20:14
Geoah, and thats the UUID it is error'ing on, btw20:14
GeoI think i'd actually rather delete grub from sdc20:14
Geois that possible?20:15
BeldarBartDude, I doubt you are in trouble, really here you have to be exact on what you have done is all to the channel.20:15
Geoadvisable?20:15
Geomaybe I just need to update grub on all those disks20:15
Geobecause they're all looking for the non-existant UUID as root20:15
BeldarGeo, YOu had one of the best helpers here, post the bootinfo to them.20:15
GeoBeldar: already did.20:15
Jordan_UGeo: I'd personally recommend installing grub's boot sector to all of your disks, so that you can boot no matter which disk your BIOS decides to boot from.20:16
BeldarGeo, Cool missed it.20:16
Geowell, there's nothing to boot from on the RAID520:16
GeoAnd tell me is this is horribly dumb, but I'd like to just update what sdc-f have listed as root20:17
GeoI think that would solve much of this20:17
Geothe way I read this, its looking for that UUID as root, and obviously its not there anymore... so how do i just update that field?20:17
Geois that grub-update on each of the disks?20:17
Jordan_UGeo: The way to "update what sdc-f have listed as root" is to run: for disk in sd{c,d,e,f}; do grub-install "$disk"; done20:18
Geogotcha20:18
Geothank you20:18
Geo'install' is what threw me for a loop in that command20:18
Jordan_UGeo: You're welcome. Once booted (or now, in the chroot), you'll want to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and configure the grub-pc package to install grub's boot sector to all of the drives for future upgrades as well.20:19
Kabraxiswow. I removed ecryptfs and now I can't login at all :D20:19
deadmundAnybody know where I can get access to an Ubuntu server to compile some software and then copy the binary back?20:19
smiremd_phonedeadmund: Install one in a VM?20:21
Geook - did that. think i'm ready for a reboot?20:21
deadmundsmiremd_phone: I do not have root on the machine I am using and I do not have permission to install VMs.20:22
Geodrum roll!20:22
tendodoes anyone know why a disk in a brand new mdadm array would be degraded?20:22
GeoI still get 'no such device: UUID', but it is letting me boot this time20:22
smiremd_phonedeadmund: Ah, you may be able to get free vps. Or you may install a vm on your home computer.20:22
GeoI had to press a key, Jordan_U20:22
Geobut this is progress20:23
deadmundsmiremd_phone: Any suggestions of a VPS to use?20:23
smiremd_phonedeadmund: but why must it be an ubuntu server?20:23
deadmundsmiremd_phone: I'm following a tutorial to install ffmpeg in Android.  The tutorial assumes I'm using Ubuntu.  Some other distros may work, but maybe not.  Playing it safe using Ubuntu20:24
vincenzohi20:25
wid0wm4kerhi20:26
ratskinmahoneydeadmund: could just use an ubuntu live instance. quicker than setting up a vm20:27
deadmundratskinmahoney: On the machine I'm using, I'm not allowed to boot a live CD20:27
ratskinmahoneydeadmund: ah ok.20:28
Jordan_UGeo: Is it the same UUID you're getting an error message about? Could you please re-run boot info script?20:28
macscam1hello i logged into "Openbox" and now my computer automatically loads into it. I don't know how to do anything from there because I just have a blank blue screen and no commands I know work. I would be happy if I could just log out20:30
macscam1anybody know how this is possible? how can i boot ubuntu so it doesnt automatically log in20:31
Beldarmacscam1, Does the original desktop have autologin on?20:32
macscam1Beldar, yeah, the original being GNOME, I was just switching to check out the other installed ones20:33
Beldarmacscam1, Turn off the autologin20:33
macscam1Beldar ok is it possible to do this from "advanced boot Ubuntu" or whatever its called20:33
Beldarubuntu will autologin to the last desktop used in general or chosen at login macscam120:33
macscam1Beldar ... ok but how do I get to the login screen again20:34
Beldarmacscam1, Do it from users where you turned it on, I assume you did it there.20:34
Beldarmacscam1, logout20:34
Beldarmacscam1, YOU can open the users app in openbox I assume and do the same on/off20:35
macscam1Beldar I cannot log out. I am using windows now and when I boot ubuntu the broken window manager autoloads and I cant log out20:35
macscam1Beldar I have no idea how to do anything in openbox20:35
ratskinmahoneymascam1: i think openbox has a right-click menu. right-click on the desktop to get a menu20:35
Beldarexactly20:35
macscam1no it doesnt20:36
ratskinmahoneyoh, sorry20:36
macscam1not for me anyway20:36
macscam1its alright, im gonna try advanced boot options20:36
Beldarhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2010-04-24-133031_1280x800_scrot.png20:37
MonkeyDustmacscam1  ctrl alt del or ctrl alt backspace maybe20:37
Beldarmacscam1, Use the recovery option in grub, and at the gui just choose continue boot, it will take you to the login.20:38
Beldarlike a math problem, there are multiple way do do this.20:38
Beldarto*20:38
BananaManLinuxi have removed ubuntu and gone back to windows, how can i remove ubuntu from my bios?20:44
eliannyNooo hay nadiie en esta mierda que hable ESPAÑOL[['20:44
GladiaTeurhi all can someone help me to resolve this problem when installing neostats20:44
thomedyim excited im writing my first custom cms20:44
thomedyon  my own20:45
GladiaTeurhttps://dpaste.de/HS3w20:45
thomedyits a bit rough but i need it because drupal doesn't ajax to front page every content all that well20:45
Locke2002!es elianny20:45
thomedy and i need it for htis sit20:45
thomedyso im star trekin it20:45
thomedygoing boldly where ihave not gone before20:45
Locke2002elianny: Necesitas ir a #ubuntu-es20:45
eliannyQuee coosa?20:45
eliannySoon maricos o quee? VIEJA20:46
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Locke2002La gente en la canal #ubuntu-es hablan espanol20:47
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eliannyAhhh y que canal es este?20:47
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Locke2002escriba /join #ubuntu-es20:47
eliannyEn donde escribo eso?!20:47
MonkeyDust!es20:47
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:47
eliannyGraacias! Friends20:48
greebo52upgraded 13.10 to 14.04 lost virtual consoles. how to enable?20:49
MonkeyDustgreebo52  you mean gnome-terminal?20:51
greebo52no the fnctrl-alt-fn[1-6] consoles20:52
xenolyseCan I in one way or another change the animation speed for the "spread windows" feature?20:53
MonkeyDustxenolyse  !ccsm can do a lot20:54
xenolyseMonkeyDust: Ye, but where can I find the setting?20:56
MonkeyDustxenolyse  explore the application a bit, it's the best way to learn what's where20:57
xenolyseMonkeyDust: I've already looked through ccsm but I can't find anything. That is why I'm asking for help here. If there is anyone who knows on how to change the animation speed of "spread windows" feature.20:59
OerHeksxenolyse, there is none in unity-tweak, i just checked.21:00
xenolyseOerHeks: Damn! Okay, thanks.21:00
OerHeksxenolyse, you need to fiddle around with dconf > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220432121:01
GeoJordan_U, sorry, had to step away21:01
GeoYes, same UUID21:02
xenolyseOerHeks: Thanks! Will check it out and se if I can solve this problem.21:02
Balzyhello!21:02
Geogive me a moment, need to get the bootscript loaded again21:02
BalzyI was wondering if it possible with linux to reserve a given port (ie 6600) to a particular user21:02
Balzyso that others cannot "steal" it21:03
Patricia18 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy21:05
OerHekscarefull with bit.ly !21:05
hamiltontWhere can I find a list of boot parameters for netcfg? I'd like to show network info if DHCP succeeds21:05
smiremd_phone^ that particular link is porn spam21:06
IdleOneindeed.21:06
Balzysmiremd_phone never open a link spammed on IRC ;)21:07
elianny#ubuntu21:10
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greebo5213.10 upgraded to 14.04, ctrl-alt-fn[1-6] doesn't switch to a virtual terminal. not even a blank screen21:10
k1lgreebo52: fn1 or f1 ?21:11
mzazaWhy are rmvb files audio always out of sync in Ubuntu?21:11
greebo52function keys 1 thru 6. worked in previous release21:11
eoeobekks are you there???21:14
smiremd_phonegreebo52: ctrl+alt+f1 works for my Trusty. It looks like your upgrade process experienced an issue.21:14
GeoJordan_U: if you're still around, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485602/21:15
greebo52smiremd_phone: any suggestion for restoring without losing all of my data?21:16
Geoha, i found it21:17
Beldargreebo52, This the unity desktop?21:17
greebo52yes21:17
Jordan_UGeo: Ahh. *Now* is the time for "sudo update-grub".21:17
smiremd_phonegreebo52: install alongside then copy data? bigger question is why you have no backup21:17
Beldargreebo52, A full upgrade no errors?21:17
reducethe openssl version on my newly created ubuntu do droplet is 'OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 201421:18
* greebo52 has backup, just doesn't want to go back to 13.10 and start over21:18
* L0uk3 21:18
reducei ran apt-get update and upgrade but it hasnt changed21:18
greebo52no errors were reported21:18
reduceis this version patched for heartbleed?21:19
eoeoI have some errors in dmesg21:19
Beldargreebo52, Have you tried a sudo apt-get -f install to be sure and rebooted more than once?21:19
eoeocould someone help me???21:19
Beldareoeo, State the issue for help.21:19
eoeohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7484864/21:20
eoeothis is the dmesg output21:20
greebo52Beldar: just  a sudo apt-get -f install with no other arguments?21:20
eoeoit have some acpi warnings and errors21:20
Beldargreebo52, yep21:20
* greebo52 will give it a try21:20
greebo52thx21:21
Beldareoeo, tell us why we are looking at this.21:21
k1lreduce: which version exactly lists apt-cache show openssl ?21:21
eoeoBeldar, because I have some warnings and errors in ACPI21:21
eoeoand bekks said me that I must upgrade the bios to the new version to solve the problem21:22
eoeobut this haven't solve it21:22
reducek1l: Version: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.121:23
k1lreduce: that is fine21:23
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k1lreduce: see http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.1/changelog21:24
Beldareoeo, Out of my area other than some good foo on the net which brings up lots.21:24
Beldareoeo, This 14.04?21:25
eoeoBeldar: yes21:26
gunarm_how can I tell if my pc's wifi hardware supports 5ghz and/or wpa2?21:26
daftykinsgunarm_: looking it up online21:26
Beldareoeo, here where I would start while waiting, more distinct foo might help.  https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=14.04+warnings+and+errors+in+ACPI&gbv=1&sei=miR5U-CoOM7zoAS4tIGgBQ21:26
CyberWolfhey guys could use a hand if you got a moment21:27
Beldar!ask > CyberWolf21:27
ubottuCyberWolf, please see my private message21:27
Bashing-omGeo: I have also been following, pass to the channel how you resolved your raid/boot situation, please.21:27
CyberWolfok haha um I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 from an old DV and trying to upgrade. It continues to tell me it failed to fetch and to check my connection. Im here right now on the same computer so something is wrong with my connection to the server. Any suggestions on how to fix this?21:30
BeldarCyberWolf, way far end of life download a supported.21:31
FlannelCyberWolf: You need to switch the repositories to old-releases.ubuntu.com because 10.10, 11.04, 11.10, etc are all EOL.  You realise you're going to have to upgrade quite a bit?  It's almost certainly less effort (and bandwidth) to simply download a new ISO and reinstall21:31
matheus_coé21:31
eoeoBeldar, another problem that I have is that my system shows me 3 hdmi sound outputs, and I only have one. And when I connect it to a tv, the sounds heards fast!21:32
eoeoBeldar: do you know sth about that?21:32
Beldareoeo, Ah, no idea, don;t assume anyone has answersw. ;)21:32
alan_smithhello guys, for some reason saned doesn't work... i'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane.d%20tutorial but when i try to start saned, i get no error but the thing doesn't run21:32
Beldaranswers*21:32
alan_smithany ideas?21:32
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Guest91831f21:36
Guest91831xdcc send21:37
Ugb3Hey, as it seems my HD4550 is dog poop i'm going to buy a new card, do any of you have a good recommendation for a cheap fanless card for htpc, with nice driver support ?21:39
_Trullointel nuc21:41
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Ugb3i meant a graphic card.21:42
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BeldarUgb3, No polling here, and that description is not needed.21:42
Bashing-omUgb3: Indeed since 12.04.1 there is no support from AMD for the graphics card, is there a reason the Open Source driver fails you ?21:42
Ugb3Beldar: Sorry didn't want to be offesive.21:43
Ugb3Bashing-om: It fails me without any reason, i'v spent hours on this same chanel to try to make it works, but it won't for some reason.21:43
bah_I looking for a vim/nano replacement for editing files in the terminal, been able to find some written in ruby but are not able to get them installed21:44
bah_do anybody know some alternative editors ?21:44
OerHeksemacs21:45
OerHeks!editor21:45
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code21:45
OerHeks!ide21:45
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator21:45
Bashing-omUgb3: There is no "supported" means to enable a "FGLRX" driver. The suggested thing is to remove all the proprietary stuff, and install the Opens ource driver, tried that ?21:45
Ugb3Bashing-om: Tried a fresh install :/21:46
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bah_find nano to be to simple and vim to complicated for simple tasks,21:46
OerHeksUgb3, you might have better luck with Nvidia21:46
pvl1samba seems to have installed improperly: http://pastebin.com/7V8HBgDk21:46
bah_something like this https://github.com/grosser/ruco21:47
OerHeksbah_, too simple/complicated sounds like an invalid argument.21:47
Bashing-omUgb3: Whow, that is drastic action . What is the graphics situation presently ? pastebinit -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , sudo lshw -C display <- To see your graphics card and info .21:48
Jordan_Ubah_: Have you tried running "vimtutor" to learn vim?21:48
Ugb3Bashing-om: That was just a new install, i used to be using fedora on this machine.21:48
bah_OerHeks, yes that is true,,21:48
Ugb3Bashing-om: Im currently re-instaling ubuntu right now, wait a minute.21:49
Bashing-omUgb3: Yeah, but what is loaded for the graphics driver ( if anything ) ??21:49
Ugb3Bashing-om: Is there a way to check that during installation ?21:49
Bashing-omUgb3: R, do not check "install 3rd party software".21:49
Ugb3Bashing-om: ok I didnt.21:50
borbitIt is possible to click one of those orange links to install a application from the Ubuntu software store. However from firefox you have to select what application to use. How do set this up? There is no softwarestore in /bin that I can easily find. Also this seems to be aimed at the beginning ubuntu and/ or linux user. So it would be nice if it worked out of the box. Maybe it did but broke after updating firefox?21:50
alan_smithany way to get saned working?21:50
Bashing-omUgb3: That I expect woll install/load the Open Source graphics driver .21:50
Bashing-om*woll/wull21:51
bah_Jordan_U, yes I really try to learn VIM and I know a lot of people love the editor. I am just not good enough  typing to be able to be productive using vim, for the moment I use Gedit for most tasks and then nano for just editing a file.21:51
Bashing-om*woll/will**21:51
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: some log messages might help. Just stating that it doesn't work and waiting for a miracle won't quite cut it.21:51
Beldarborbit, Can you restate the firefox issue what are you trying to do?21:51
Ugb3Bashing-om: lol something wrong with you keyboard/fingers ?21:52
OerHeksborbit,  /usr/bin/software-center21:52
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: when i try to start the service, i don't get any error whatsoever21:52
Bashing-omUgb3: Demanding cat in my lap. ( yeah I get fat fingered besides !).21:52
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: have a peek in /var/log21:52
bah_should really want a terminal editor that supported all the common key shortcut21:53
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: sudo grep -rHin sane /var/log21:53
BeldarBashing-om, My cat weighs 20lb, he is gigantic, limited lap use. ;)21:53
borbitDankjewel OerHeks! Is it useful to file a bug report for this?21:54
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: lots of line appears, is there a easy way to dump that in a text file?21:54
Bashing-omUgb3: I also have a 120 lb Bassett hound, still wants to be a lap dog !21:54
Ugb3Beldar: mine are small, sometime I get two on my lap and 1 on my desk.21:54
Beldarheh21:54
Ugb3Bashing-om: ahaha21:54
bah_also find this http://diakonos.pist0s.ca/  but it seems to be a lot of buggs21:54
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suudyI'm working on porting plymouth to a customized ubuntu distro (based on 12.04).  I'm having trouble getting the Image.Text() to render while in the initramfs.  It works fine when plymouth is used after the switch to the rootfs.21:55
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: append ' | tee out.log'21:55
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randolph_plustest21:55
suudyAlso, the '--debug --debug-file=<path to file>' doesn't seem to produce anything in the initramfs.21:55
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: the package 'pastebinit' allows you to put output directly on a pastebin service21:55
Beldarsuudy, Really, not enough derivatives already; amongst the 100's of linux OS?21:56
suudyIt's an internal distro, not for general consumption.21:56
suudyIt's for an embedded system.21:56
Ugb3Yeah if linux people were just a lil more united we would have a genius top os.21:57
alan_smithhere are the relevant lines (imho) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485773/, full: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485778/21:58
suudyBesides, my question wasn't about whether or not our distro was useful, but how to get plymouth to work.21:58
bah_ubottu, you don't know any more except the ones you mentioned ?  ( nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed)21:58
ubottubah_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:58
MasterOfDisasterbah_: every piece of software needs getting used to. If you want to become familiar with an editor that's available in virtually any linux/modern unix, stick to vi(m).21:58
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: fscked up your /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny?22:00
Beldarsuudy, Heh, yes it was, and not a official release as of now, technically not supported.22:00
bah_MasterOfDisaster, still for just fast editing I don't find vim to be a good option, you hit one wrong key and it take you 2 minutes to exit or wors you did something with your buffer22:00
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: nope, never messed with those files, i'm not running a web server or stuff like that22:01
suudyBeldar, Eh?  Are you saying that since plymouth does not have an official release, there's no support for it except within the context of an official Ubuntu release?22:01
alan_smithi mean, it seems cups has an internal http server, but other than that nope22:01
suudyIf even that?22:01
smiremd_phonesuudy: maybe try #ubuntu-dev?22:02
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: and those files are blank (only commented lines)22:02
MasterOfDisasterbah_: well... just to emphasize - if you want something that's available almost everywhere without installing extra stuff, including embedded hardware, stick with vi/vim. If you don't want to adjust too much from windows, have a look at mc and/or nano22:03
potato1hey22:03
potato1im fag22:03
potato1exit22:04
Ugb3nano rules.22:04
Locke2002Is there anything like nano that can reload from disk?22:04
diverdudewhen doing e.g. find . -type f -exec grep "foobar" {} +     what does the {} + do?22:04
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: try killing all saned instances before trying again: sudo service saned stop ; sudo killall saned22:04
nvtisn't it for solaris diverdude22:04
diverdudenvt: no, goes on ubuntu22:05
MasterOfDisasterdiverdude: it's where find will insert the filename.22:05
nvtin some old shell22:05
suudysmiremd_phone: Thanks for the pointer.  I'll ask there.22:05
MasterOfDisasterdiverdude: a placeholder22:05
MasterOfDisasterdiverdude: see man find for more information.22:05
Ugb3Bashing-om: Ok so i have reinstaled ubuntu22:06
diverdudeMasterOfDisaster: ahh ok, and the +?22:06
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: no deal :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485798/22:07
Ugb3Bashing-om: i'm installing ssh, as with 4 fps i can't even type.22:07
MasterOfDisasterdiverdude: line ending I guess. I usually write it like this: find -exec grep -Hin foo {} \;22:07
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: anything changing in the logs?22:08
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: what does 'sudo netstat -panet' say?22:09
Bashing-omUgb3: I do not have the experience with ssh to advise, are you where you can get to the box phycically ?22:09
Ugb3Yeah Bashing-om, but ssh is just like a terminal but remotly22:10
Ugb3"pastebinit -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga" seems to get stuck.22:10
Bashing-omUgb3: True, but still have to jump through some Xserver hoops to do ssh.22:11
Ugb3Ok Bashing-om I have a terminal windows opened if needed.22:11
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485812/ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485816/ NOTE: /etc/default/saned is correct22:12
Bashing-omUgb3: "lspci" takes a bit to look at all the hardware. give it a bit of time.22:12
Ugb3Bashing-om: I think that's the pastebin thingy that crashes.22:13
Ugb3I did it manualy : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485819/22:13
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: here is the /etc/default/saned: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485820/22:13
Ugb3that was a net split.22:14
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: hm... share its config files.22:14
Ugb3Bashing-om: duno if you got it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485819/22:14
Ugb3I think I have an idea, removing nomodeset and adding radeon.audio=022:15
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: host's name resolution is working alright? hostname --fqdn and dnsdomainname return something sane? /etc/hosts ok?22:16
Bashing-omUgb3: was checking the syntax on 'lspci' commnad. look'n now at 7485819/.22:17
Ugb3Bashing-om: I don't get what you wrote22:17
Ugb3Bashing-om: My fix seems to work22:18
archpcguys I have a weird issue with my install of 14.04... there is a random 1kb volume drive/partition and I have no clue what it's there for or why22:18
Ugb3Bashing-om: It seems to work now, but I won't have any audio over HDMI.22:18
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alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485829/ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485834/ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485841/22:19
Bashing-omUgb3: Odd that the "nomodeset" boot parameter is required.. the card is recognized per the 'lspci' output. What syas the 'lshw" commnad.22:19
Bashing-omug22:20
Ugb3Bashing-om: It seems i have to choose : nomodeset, or radeon.audio=022:20
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alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485842/22:20
duckchatanyone run dual monitors?22:21
Bashing-omUgb3: Not good ! .. as the llvmpipe driver is loaded rather then the open source GUI driver... hummm .22:22
archpchere's my lsblk http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6hAsLpyf22:22
Ugb3Bashing-om: are you sure ?22:22
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: um... why use xinetd?22:23
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: isn't it necessary?22:23
alan_smithi think i need either inetd ot xinetd22:25
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: I'm pretty sure it's not. (x)inetd was designed as a wrapper for access control and for binaries that weren't keen on fork().22:25
Hardcheesewtf... my machine just .. shut down itself. What could just have happened? Can the logs tell me why my computer just shut down?22:25
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: well, I'm going to uninstall it in this case22:26
MasterOfDisasterHardcheese: faulty PSU/temperature?22:26
HardcheeseMasterOfDisaster: it shut down as if I had clicked the menu, it didn't just blanked out, but it shut down the system22:26
Hardcheeseclicked the menu= shut it down normally22:27
MasterOfDisasterHardcheese: /var/log/ might give you a clue.22:27
c4rt3rok guys my phones broke and i need an alarm for work in the morning and my laptop speakers suck, how can i script beep to sound at a certain time any links22:27
MasterOfDisasterHardcheese: running 'last' might be starting point22:28
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HardcheeseMasterOfDisaster: what's showing up there?22:28
WollyWonkehI've done this twice now.. While following help from Apache guides I've managed to edit the group of my main user in such a way that it's no longer in the sudoers file. When I search I find what I recall was the solution: "Reboot and at the grub screen choose custom options and force it to shell as root" or something along those lines? Since the cureent sever hates to output video while...22:29
WollyWonkeh...booting (Sunfire x4100) I'm worried about this solution/looking for options?22:29
Ugb3Bashing-om: the setting app tels me Galium 0.4 on AMD RV710 doesn't that mean that i'm using the open source one ?22:29
SchrodingersScat!info alarm-clock | c4rt3r, you could also look at the 'at' command, and have a terrible webpage open that makes lots of noise,22:29
ubottuc4rt3r, you could also look at the 'at' command, and have a terrible webpage open that makes lots of noise,: alarm-clock (source: alarm-clock): Alarm Clock for GTK Environments. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-1.2ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 597 kB, installed size 1664 kB22:29
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c4rt3rthanks SchrodingersScat :D i have 8hrs to sort this out, sleep and awake for work lol i'm off to start22:30
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: i've uninstalled it and removed the xinet.d folder, made sure everything is configured as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane.d%20tutorial and the thing still refuses to work22:30
SchrodingersScatc4rt3r: also consider getting a wind-up alarm clock22:30
MasterOfDisasterHardcheese: shows you when your system thinks it was shut down and when it was booted22:30
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c4rt3rSchrodingersScat: i know right oh how we rely on technology22:31
daftykinsWollyWonkeh: you can also try a live boot and chroot your install22:31
gunarm_is there any way to scan for 5ghz connections only?22:31
SchrodingersScatc4rt3r: yeah, alarm-clock likes to crash on me at bad points, physical clock can only crash so many ways22:31
MasterOfDisasteralan_smith: so what about the logs now? same output?22:32
WollyWonkehdaftykins: Oh .. yeah I think I can get it to boot from USB CDROM.. Not a bad idea to help avoid the video going to some crazy mode no monitor can support! ;)22:32
daftykinsgunarm_: most dualband APs let you rename the 5GHz SSID so you can tell22:32
daftykinsWollyWonkeh: actually maybe you could just nomodeset boot both22:33
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: yep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7485877/22:33
Ugb3daftykins: Hey just to let you know i got my 4550 semi working :)22:33
daftykinsWollyWonkeh: i'm guessing that was sarcasm ^_^22:33
daftykinsUgb3: so it wasn't even using the radeon driver huh?22:33
gunarm_daftykins, well I have them named seperatly (Tomato24 and Tomato50) and I can only see the 2.4 one, afaik the hardware *should* support 5ghz.  It's an 802.11n adapter22:33
xenolyseTips on a Guake like drop down terminal, with lots of settings and good looks?22:34
Hardcheesethanks MasterOfDisaster22:34
Ugb3daftykins: I don't have any clue, i can only boot with nomodeset (no acceleration) or with radeon.audio=0 (no sound over HDMI)22:34
gunarm_other devices see the 5ghz network22:34
daftykinsgunarm_: often the Linux drivers for these things don't offer the full features22:34
WollyWonkehdaftykins: ? It's a 1U Sun server .. old but cheap and it's configured for 4 hot-swap 2.5" SAS so it has no CD drive? Should I Google "nomodeset boot"?22:34
gunarm_ah22:35
daftykins!nomodeset | WollyWonkeh22:35
ubottuWollyWonkeh: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:35
daftykinsWollyWonkeh: you might be able to apply nomodeset to the recovery mode boot, not sure22:35
creatorb1hi everyone, can i test mail server on virtual box? i have ubuntu 12.04 on my virtual box now22:36
SchrodingersScatcreatorb1: you can do almost anything you put your mind to.22:37
archpcexcept have an army of monkeys... i've tried22:37
WollyWonkehdaftykins: Ahhh yeah I was told it does the "Unsupported Video Mode" because I opted to allow updates when I was installing Unbuntu? I'm trying to not let things stop me from using the box, it's nice not to use XAMPP and face a more realistic environment but I'll take another swing at the video issue22:37
BeldarSchrodingersScat, T%hat is about as valid as meritocracy. ;)22:38
Bashing-omUgb3: untill "mesa-utils" is installked, can not depend on what the ap relates, the "nomoseset" parameter loads the default backup driver.22:38
gunarm_whats the opposite to a meritocracy?22:38
BeldarTHe US22:39
Beldarlol, the world22:39
gunarm_;p22:39
Ugb3guampa: France :(22:39
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Ugb3Bashing-om: I don't get it ?22:39
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: i've tried adding the saned user to the saned group as suggested somewhere on the web... still not working22:41
daftykinsalan_smith: after group changes you know you have to logout and login? (at least i think i saw someone say that once)22:42
alan_smithdaftykins: i don't think that's accurate, but in any case i'm going to try logging into another tty22:43
Bashing-omUgb3: Try ->sudo apt-get install mesa-utils <- and then see what ya get.22:44
alan_smithno go :)22:44
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ldurosI'm trying to run a command (supervisorctl stop [something]) from an rc0.d/ K01 script, but the commands seem to have no effect. When I run the script directly, it works. Any way I can troubleshoot/fix this? Should I use exec or something? Is it because there's no TTY (just a wild guess)22:45
Bashing-omUgb3: OH! nother thing, after the install you did run -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- , yes ?22:45
Ugb3Bashing-om: Yes i did, and i did insyalled mesa-utils22:46
RippSteakfaceBLACK mesa utils? Uh oh. Better get Gordon Freeman.22:46
kyshtynbaiHi guys! How can I find out dimensions of an image from console?22:47
daftykinsRippSteakface: you're needed. in the *test* chamber.22:47
RippSteakfaceheh22:47
Bashing-omUgb3: What results now if ya do a cold boot ?22:48
Ugb3Bashing-om: Now that I removed nomodeset and added radeon.audio=0 it boots well.22:48
Ugb3DO you want me to put nomodeset back ?22:49
waressearcher2sup22:49
waressearcher2Flannel: sup22:49
Bashing-omUgb3: I had hoped it booted to the login with out any added boot parameter.22:49
Ugb3without any nomodeset or radeon.audio i just get a black screen.22:50
jak2001hi all why i acces to my servr with user: jak  and password but when try acces with putty on my windows laptop cant? access deneied? how to fix it? thanks22:50
waressearcher2jak2001: what is password ?22:50
Ugb3jak2001: did you install openssh-server ?22:51
Beldarwaressearcher2, Common this is support.22:51
TTYRE74help22:51
waressearcher2Beldar: I'm trying to help22:51
waressearcher2jak2001: I can try to log in and if it works for me than PEBKAS22:52
Bashing-omUgb3: Sorry to say, I am out of ideas. Perhaps others with greater experience can advise.22:52
jak2001Ugb3 i think yes, but how to check?22:52
Beldarwaressearcher2, You started off with banal hello's and now you ask what is a password, that is hardly help and looks like trolling.22:52
Ugb3Bashing-om: no problem, thanks for your help anyway. I think I'm just going to buy a new card...22:53
Ugb3Bashing-om: Cause i need both acceleration and audio over hdmi :/22:53
daftykinsjak2001: sudo apt-get install openssh-server22:53
waressearcher2jak2001: I suppose you weren't on that planet before 2001 year ?22:54
daftykinswaressearcher2: that is off topic, please leave.22:55
Bashing-omUgb3: Well that is one solution. I am dissapointed the Open Source driver is not cutting it.22:55
k1lwaressearcher2: please focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks22:55
jak2001Ugb3 openssh-server is alerady the newest version.22:55
BeldarTTYRE74, Help is generated by you stating the issues.22:57
daftykinsjak2001: what are you entering into PuTTY to connect to that system? a name or an IP address?22:57
TTYRE74ok22:58
jak2001ip adress, ask me the login22:58
k1ljak2001: do you give the right user to putty to connect to the server?22:58
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: it works after a restart!22:59
alan_smithMasterOfDisaster: thank you very much for your help!22:59
Ugb3Bashing-om: without nomodeset it will use proprietary drivers ?22:59
Bashing-omUgb3: "nomodeset" disables Kernel Mode Setting, so the default "system (grub)" driver is loaded.23:00
Ugb3So i'm currently using which driver ?23:01
jak2001k1l yes, and password too, same as my user/password on my server.23:01
jak2001in my server phisicallyi can connect.23:01
sl33k_Your recommended software for reading .djvu files?23:01
waressearcher2sl33k_: djvulibre ?23:01
Ugb3Bashing-om: So now that i removed nomodeseting it should be using the open drivers right ?23:02
Bashing-omUgb3: Depends on the realese you are running, the default - I think - as of 13.04 was 'llvmpipe" .23:02
daftykinsUgb3: if you SSH'd in you could pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out, if it's even getting as far as trying to start X23:02
Jordan_UUgb3: How did you discover that radeon.audio=0 allowed you to use X?23:03
Ugb3Jordan_U: Long story short, it is the only way i could boot fedora with kernel 3.12 +23:03
jak2001k1l, Ugb3 any advice?23:03
Bashing-omUgb3: Removing "nomodeset", yes I would thing it would load Open Source - > sudo lshw -C display <- to see what is loaded.23:03
k1ljak2001: see the server log why its refusing23:03
sl33k_Does encryption of drive ensures that my other partitions not viewable in file manager?23:04
Ugb3Bashing-om: Ok trying23:04
Jordan_UUgb3: Have you filed a bug report about this? The fact that you've been able to narrow down the problem (from the whole of the ati driver to just HDMI audio out) means that there is a greater likelyhood of quick resolution.23:04
Beldarsl33k_, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=.djvu+ubuntu&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=hjx5U9SqJJfroASb_IGYDw23:05
Ugb3Jordan_U: I did on fedora bug thing but they didn't seem to give a damn.23:05
Jordan_UUgb3: Please watch your language and don't denegrate others. Could you please link to the bug report?23:05
Ugb3Jordan_U: Sorry i didn't mean to.23:06
Bashing-omUgb3: Those cards are still very popular, and still being sold. We need all the help here we can get.23:06
sl33k_Beldar: Document Viewer opened them to my surprise23:07
Jordan_Usl33k_: I don't understand the question. Could you try asking again, but giving concrete examples of your situation?23:07
WollyWonkeh So I got the Sunfire to boot from USB CDROM and the 12.5 LTS Server CD has no "Try" option.. no "Boot from CD" .. just "Boot from first hard disk" and "Rescue a broken system"  .. I did the F6 'nomodeset' option first and then tried the 'Rescue' option and it seems totally hung/frozen23:07
jribWollyWonkeh: server cd doesn't have a "try" option, correct.  Also, there is no such thing as "12.5"23:07
Ugb3Jordan_U: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=107292923:07
daftykinsWollyWonkeh: you need desktop.23:07
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1072929 in xorg-x11-drv-ati "System hangs at Fedora logo with 3.13 kernel update." [High,New]23:07
Ugb3Bashing-om: Really ? People keep telling me i should buy a new one.23:08
jak2001k1l, tail -f /var/log/syslog  not show anything.23:08
Bashing-omUgb3: The problem being is that when AMD bouhgt out ATI, AMD dropped support for the 2X/3X/4X series of cards .23:09
Ugb3Bashing-om: Yeah I know that :(23:09
GeoJordan_U: I believe I am now 100%23:09
Geothank you again for all you help23:10
Geo*your23:10
k1ljak2001: /var/log/auth.log23:10
Jordan_UGeo: You're welcome.23:10
sl33k_Jordan_U: When I made a fresh reinstall to just ubuntu(no dual boot and windows), my previous partitions and drives from dual boot are not visible. I also chose encryption while installing. So I am wondering if I need any password to view those partitions. Because I just have one (called by default as File System)23:10
Jordan_UUgb3: Did HDMI audio work with previous kernels?23:10
Ugb3Bashing-om: " configuration: driver=radeon latency=0" I guess i'm using the open driver ?23:10
Ugb3Jordan_U: Yeah it did.23:11
Bashing-omUgb3: Yepper , radeon = Open Source .23:11
Ugb3Bashing-om: It maybe be a nice thing for other people if instead of putting nomodeset in grub, ubuntu would try to add radeon.audio=0 for these cards.23:12
Ugb3If no fix is found.23:12
Jordan_UUgb3: Ubuntu never added nomodeset to your kernel parameters.23:12
Ugb3Jordan_U: then who did ?23:13
Jordan_UUgb3: You.23:13
Ugb3Jordan_U: nope23:13
daftykinsnomodeset doesn't get added by default23:13
Ugb3Ah, i had to use nomodeset to book the live cd, it may come from there ?23:13
Ugb3boot*23:13
daftykinsUgb3: you know it's a totally crazy idea not without risk, but have you considered updating your card's BIOS? from the manufacturer there may be an update23:13
Jordan_UUgb3: We went over this last time, and you agreed that you added it when you booted the installer (but didn't realize that such additions are copied over to the install).23:13
daftykinsheh23:14
Ugb3my bad guys23:14
Ugb3daftykins: My card is updated afaik.23:14
Jordan_Usl33k_: I'm a little confused still, because normally when people say they installed Ubuntu with "no dual boot and Windows" or similar they mean that they told Ubuntu's installer to delete all existing partitions and replace them. In which case you would of course not be able to access the old partitions, as they are gone.23:14
Jordan_UUgb3: Since you've narrowed down the problem additionally to a small range of kernel versions, you can bisect those versions until you find the (hopefully single) commit that caused the issue. At which point that commit can either be reverted, or at very least we'll know exactly what change cause the problem and can hopefully fix it properly.23:16
Ugb3Jordan_U: I'm not sure i'm savvy enough for that :/23:16
Ugb3Jordan_U: I just know it worked well until kernel 3.13 came out.23:16
puranaI noticed on my Ubunu 14.04 LTS install that insserv is not installed by default, when I did install it, I cannot remove it due to other dependancies that enforce it to remain.. I also noticed post install the insserv binary is not in any user execution paths.23:17
puranapackaging bug?23:17
puranaapt-file list insserv shows /usr/lib/insserv/insserv (not sure why they put the binary here)23:18
sl33k_Jordan_U: ok I am clear now. Now is there any backup for partition thing?23:18
Jordan_Usl33k_: I don't understand your question.23:18
jak2001ahh i think so what is the problem: User jak not allowed because shell /bin/ftp is not executable, how to fix it? thankschange to /bin/shell ?23:19
Jordan_UUgb3: OK, let's start by installing a 3.12 kernel and seeing if it works then. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12.20-trusty/23:20
jak2001k1l thanks23:20
sl33k_Jordan_U: How do you deal with creating partitions on reinstalls? I am assuming I will need gparted for creating new partitions?23:20
Jordan_Usl33k_: Please explain what your end goal is. What partitions do you want to end up with, and why?23:22
Ugb3Jordan_U: ok im rebooting it.23:22
sl33k_Jordan_U: I want to store some downloads in a separate place, for that I need a partition.23:23
stef1ai'm on ubuntu 14.04 and am trying to change my keyboard shortcuts / hotkeys. is there a file i can change to do this? because doing it from the settings gui isn't working.23:23
Jordan_Usl33k_: Why do you want a separate partition?23:23
sl33k_Jordan_U: I want an *additional* partition(if I am understanding partitions correctly) to store some files.23:25
sl33k_Am I still thinking the Windows way?23:26
sl33k_Tell me if I am clueless on partitions and I will look it up23:26
daftykinssl33k_: so make one, format it and mount it to a path your user can write to23:26
waressearcher2sl33k_: I have 15 partitions on one of my HDD23:27
d1323waressearcher2, why?23:28
waressearcher2http://sprunge.us/KGOF23:28
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Jordan_Usl33k_: The question is why you think having an additional partition gives you and advantage over just keeping files in your root filesystem.23:28
sl33k_reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/powerpc/apcs03.html23:28
waressearcher2d1323: first I wanted to have many linux installations, and windows, and bsds23:29
Ugb3Jordan_U: Im currently trying to boot kernel 3.12 we will see.23:29
sl33k_Jordan_U: Thats why I asked if I am thinking the windows way. Because my other partitions were not lost on reinstall23:29
Beldarsl33k_, That is a old wiki and not really relevant in several ways especially for a user trying to learn.23:30
Jordan_Usl33k_: So the advantage you're looking for is that the files won't be lost if you re-install?23:30
sl33k_Jordan_U: yes23:30
WollyWonkehI really wish I had root access.. Certainly far more than I've ever regretted having admin access in Windows. Guess I will have to download the Desktop distro so I can boot from CD and hack my suduoers file..23:30
Ugb3Jordan_U: Everything is ok with kernel 3.1223:31
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Bashing-omUgb3: you and Jordan_U Have now put me in a learning mode.23:32
Jordan_UUgb3: Great. Now let's see if the bug was added in the initial merge window, or in one of the release candidates. Try http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.13-rc1-trusty/ If you're lucky it will work. If it doesn't work, it just means that we have to get into manually compiling the kernel before we can narrow things down further. (To narrow to a single commit we need to get to compiling either way though).23:33
FlannelWollyWonkeh: Not immediately useful, but you generally want to use "adduser USER GROUP" instead of "usermod" (because you'll forget the -a when using -G) to add users to groups.23:34
Ugb3Im sorry Jordan_U But i will have to try tomorow, gf is shouting at my "noise" :/23:34
Ugb3Tomorow i will try this kernel and i will report back.23:34
Jordan_UUgb3: OK.23:35
WollyWonkehFlannel: Yeah and just when I thought I'd learned my lesson last time I was diddling with users/groups.. Though this time I didn't stray off the written instructions so it's a bit frustrating.23:35
FlannelWollyWonkeh: Sometimes you can't trust guides, because sometimes theyre written by morons.  But yeah, adduser is safe, usermod -G and you'll eventually forget the -a and hose your groups.23:35
Ugb3Jordan_U: So if i understood well, I will try tje rc kernel until i find a non working one, so i can find which commit may be troublesome, and them recompile it without it to see if it works ?23:36
archpcguys I installed ubuntu in dual boot with win8, there is a random 1kb volume on the dash, it points to /dev/sda3 which is my entire ubuntu install23:37
Jordan_UUgb3: You try each RC kernel until you find a non-working one, then you will know that the bug was added between the working and non-working version. From there, you grab the kernel's git tree and git bisect to find the exact commit.23:37
Ugb3Jordan_U: Okay, will do.23:38
Ugb3Jordan_U: Thank you so much for your help, Bashing-om and others too.23:38
Jordan_UUgb3: You're welcome. Thank you for taking the time to help get this bug fixed :)23:38
FlannelWollyWonkeh: Also, the server CD should have a "rescue a broken system" option, which will let you fix this without a liveCD.23:40
Flannelor should.  It used to, I haven't kept completely up on what it does.23:40
WollyWonkehFlannel: Yeah I tried that just now and it hung.. like numlock wouldn't toggle on the keyboard even.. Couldn't ctrl+alt+del .. nada. It's such an old crappy server. If it didn't have so much redundancy I'd recycle it. :)23:42
WollyWonkehHeck.. An older distro sounds good.. Should look at what was stable around the time these were popular. Hahaha.23:42
Beldararchpc, Partitions will show in the panel.23:43
Beldarin the dash menu with the right search as well23:44
doomlord_any idea how to enable the launching of graphical applications from another machine over ssh23:47
daftykinsdoomlord_: you're ssh'ing with -X already?23:49
doomlord_i'd never done that on linux, but was just surprised to discover it works on the mac (eg sshing into a macbook, i can launch gl apps)23:49
doomlord_"sshing with X", i doubt it23:50
daftykinsssh -X user@host23:50
doomlord_thanks23:50
doomlord_argh, from mac -> linux, same result, but let me try from linux->linux23:51
daftykinsand what *is* this result?23:51
doomlord_"failed to open display ''"23:52
doomlord_that works23:52
doomlord_in my experiment i SSH'd from the same machine to itself; however i verified that it didn't allow launching gl apps without -X23:55
doomlord_any idea what could be different going from mac -> linux23:55
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