[00:38] My tool bar keeps freezing. is this an issue with other people? [00:38] i can hover over stuff, but I cant switch windows or access whisker menu === SunilJoshi is now known as sjoshi [09:13] .hello [09:16] lots of applet that used to be there do not appear on the indicator area in xfce [09:16] for example the nm-applet is not there [09:16] or the battery indicator. Is there a fix for this? [09:18] I know there is the xfce4-indicator-plugin. But that does more than than (e.g. displays the gloabal menu) and it crashes if any other application than firefox has the focus [10:15] hi all, I get this error message "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136820" every time I login. how do I know what cause this problem? [10:15] I wonder if anybody else has this problem: Does somebody have a nm-applet working with xubuntu? And if so, does it show up in the notification area or the xfce4-indicator-plugin for unity applets? [10:16] indicator plugin for me [10:16] it should show in the notification area too, i believe. I think there is a bug preventing it doing so, i can see it in preferences for the notification area [10:17] bah_, why not ask in #ubuntuforums [10:18] bazhang, there are already so many questions unanswered, thought somebody here might know about a fix [10:19] ratskinmahoney, so you have two icons? [10:19] such a stupidity to have error massages like this in a linux system !! [10:20] bah_: have you already saw http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade [10:21] rtzui: i only have one (indicator plugin), but in the preferences for notification area nm-applet is listed as though it should be visible, but isn't [10:22] ratskinmahoney, ok, that's the same for me [10:22] slickymaster, no that answer i did not find! thanks a lot, I will try to reboot now [10:22] But, on top of that the unity indicator constantly crashes [10:22] it seems to be a issue with the menu bar [10:23] bah_: np [10:23] it displays a global menu for firefox [10:23] rtzui: that's a new one on me [10:23] if i select another window(like xchat) it seems it wants to display a global menu aswell, and crashes [10:23] ok, so no menue for you? [10:24] in the indicator? [10:24] i run a pretty minimal ui, the only indicator i have is nm-applet (because it doesn't display in the notification area), and that behaves fine [10:26] ok [10:26] as I'm absolutly clueless i'll try a xubuntu live system and see how it behaves [11:00] Hello I have a problem with the display manager in Xubuntu. Every time I plug in or disconnect my power charger the display manager opens. Is there anyway to disable this? Thanks in advance. [11:47] hi I have one problem with the sound [11:47] when I connect my notebook to a tv with hdmi it sounds like a smurf [13:31] Why does Xubuntu put Apache-served webs in /var/www/html, while Ubuntu Server puts them in /var/www? [13:32] Related question: why does Xubuntu have www-data:www-data as Apache web server user:group, while /var/www/html belongs to root:root? [13:35] Hi, Baizon! [14:43] Hi! when I connect my laptop to the hdmi the sound is played too fast [14:43] it's not a flash problem, because it happens also in the programs like vlc... What can I do??? [14:48] ?¿?¿? [14:53] Make a video and say the music is by the chipmunks [16:25] hey [16:26] I am new to xubuntu 1st install today [16:26] how do add new wallpapers in 14.04? [16:49] hey guys? [16:50] in your desktop settings as you were told bertus http://www.linuceum.com/Distros/osDesktopXubuntu.php#topic7 [16:55] sorry xangua i dont get it [16:56] bertus: in the menu at the top left of your screen type "settings" which should find Settings Manger [16:56] bertus: in the Settings Manager, go to "Desktop" [16:56] if i go to desktop settings > background > Folder i see backdrops but i cannot add any images there [16:57] and if i right click on images and select set as wallpaper nothing hapens [16:57] it automatically finds them for you and displays them in the preview [16:57] right clicking changes the background [16:58] that's where i am now [16:58] and clicking on them doesn't change the background? [16:59] no [16:59] what version of xubuntu are you using? [17:00] Do we have any tool like pastebinit for sharing screenshots? [17:01] will reboot [17:01] sjoshi: I don't know of one [17:10] hello good day to you all, is this the right channel to get help for xubuntu 14.04? [17:10] luis__, yes... [17:11] excellent, i am tryng to syn my black verry and i just install barry, but when i open it i get this: "No OpenSync libraries were found. Sync will be unavailable until you install OpenSync version 0.22 or version 0.4x on your system, along with the needed plugins." [17:11] and just can't find on google how to install opensync on my new xubuntu 14.04 [17:11] how did you install "barry" then? from the official repositories? [17:11] from synaptic [17:12] !info barry [17:12] Package barry does not exist in trusty [17:13] ups so ther won't be any opensync available for xubuntu 14.04? [17:14] if it doesn't then how do i sync my black berry curve 8520 with my xubuntu? [17:15] looks like the opensync project has been stalled since 2010, and there doesn't happen to be packages for that in trusty [17:16] !info barry-util [17:16] barry-util (source: barry): Command line utilities for working with the RIM BlackBerry Handheld. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.18.5-1 (trusty), package size 526 kB, installed size 3420 kB [17:16] so that means i need yo get other smart phone instead bb? [17:16] there seems to be at least one PPA for opensync [17:17] if i install that PPA will it be ok or will it harm my xubuntu? [17:17] it's always possible that something breaks [17:18] but if it's your only option.. it might be worth checking [17:18] the PPA is here: https://launchpad.net/~opensync/+archive/opensync-devel [17:18] that seems to be the only PPA that has packages for trusty [17:18] thanks a lot let me give it a try :) [17:18] PPA description Snapshots of the latest development version of Opensync. Not for everyday use, do not install unless you know what you are doing ! [17:19] the PPA seems to be pretty much self-contained, that is, it shouldn't override any existing libraries [17:19] xangua, as always; PPA's should be used with caution and using them is at your own risk [17:48] Hey all, would appreciate your help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224853 [17:50] Inoki, don't think you can do that [17:50] Inoki, maybe by editing the GTK theme, but not at all sure [17:51] knome, that was really cheerful :D [17:51] I was told that it could be done. [17:51] well... you're welcome [17:51] by whom? [17:52] People on Google+ and I saw in the past that some themes allowed it, the icons were smaller, looked more elegant, much like the MAC panel and had more space in between. Also Unity indicators with the default theme and icons have more space in between them, would like to have this in Xubuntu so it looks more aesthetic. [17:52] then you probably need to edit the theme [17:53] Probably, but everyone says something else and I'm confused a bit. I just need to know which file and value. [17:53] hi Inoki - I'm here too ;) [17:53] heya :D [17:55] i'm not familiar enough with gtk theming (any more) that i'd have an idea [17:55] Check this eg.: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6844 [17:56] that's another way to achieve it [17:56] but it's a bit over-the-top to build the panel to get the extra padding [17:56] at least from my POV [17:57] now if someone would show how to get global app menu in xfce in uptodate distros, :( [17:57] Agreed, but yeah...... I mean, just look at the screen I posted in the thread and tell me there's seriously something missing from the aesthetic POV. [17:57] Those icons are far too close to each other and it just looks....... horrible. [17:57] Inoki: yet some might prefer them closer to save panel estate [17:58] Inoki, if you have time, keep hanging on the channel and wait until ochosi gets back... he might be able to give you an answer [17:58] Some may, I don't :D I prefer aesthetics. Thing is Xfce can be made so beautiful (and no, MAC isn't even close to that). To me eg. it seems having those icons stuck one on another is just totally displeasing for the eye. [17:59] knome will do, thanks :) [18:01] Inoki: do you have a picture? One has to login to view it [18:04] flux242: http://i.imgur.com/YtPEQ2O.png [18:04] flux242: I want to achieve the spacing on the left [18:05] flux242 with all the indicators. [18:05] it's also crowded, isnt' it? [18:07] Yup but that doesn't really matter. On a MAC panel or Unity panel which are practically the same (Ubuntu really copied this one, or so it seems at least) they take a lot of space but that is not my concern. Mine's aesthetic. [18:08] so you want different icons or what? [18:08] Increase the space between them, that's all. [18:08] If possible maybe making them a bit smaller also, but that's optional. [18:09] between icons in the notification area? [18:09] Yup [18:09] Only there [18:09] Just like on the screen. [18:10] When I achieve that my Xubuntu desktop is complete, I really like the flexibility of it and aesthetics. To me it's be the best choice; it's snappy, beautiful, very usable. [18:21] Any idea when ochosi gets back? [18:21] Coz I wanna go watch a movie in the meantime. [18:22] Would appreciate if anyone could simply point him to this in my absence: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224853 [18:31] Anyone online today? [18:31] Hi all, who has a problem with connecting bluetooth-headphones to Xubuntu 14.04 x86? I can't do that with my Sony BTN-200? [18:31] QUESTION?? IS ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO USE FLOPPY DISKS? [18:32] definitely not. [18:32] xubuntu674, please do not SHOUT [18:32] xubuntu674: I am using floppy disks successfully. [18:33] I know, I know... no cap.. wanted to get attention here.. I have LOTS of legacy code stored on floppies that I'd like to retrieve to my server.. but floppies are messed up on 12.04 doesn't wor [18:33] Am I online here? [18:33] Bookman, yep. [18:34] , okay. Well, I heard some news about bluetooth bugs. Is there any solutions? [18:34] There are NUMEROUS posts regarding the problem suggesting going way back.. the problem is a known bug, How can we get a fix for it? [18:36] when I do sudo fdlist response is no such device.. but I actually have a 1.44 and a 1.2 M floppy attached. Says no such block device [18:37] Except , who has problems with bluetooth? [18:37] Have been to the available help on the subject, suggests downgrade, but the suggested downgrade doesn't show up on Synaptic on my 12.04 release. [18:37] Bookman, i didn't say i have problems with bluetooth, i just replied to your question that implied you didn't know if we can read you [18:38] , Have you had such experience? (connecting headphones to PC)? [18:38] not really [18:39] xubuntu674: Keep it in this channel. [18:39] =(, when I used Ubuntu 12.04.4 bt-headphones worked perfectly. Just turned to Xubuntu, and here doen't work. Who touched 14.10? [18:40] A question regarding light-locker (assuming I'm not the only one being affected), isn't it annoying when the screen locks music playback stops? I'm in my shower listening to music and when the screen locks all I hear is the water..... :/ [18:40] Linux cell may be works in such mood? [18:45] Well, who knows how to struggle with bluetooth? [18:45] Bookman: I suggest you ask on the forums or http://askubuntu.com [18:46] Your question may already been answered. [18:46] The most interesting is that even in bugreport no answer was worth doing( [18:46] patience is a virtue. [18:47] Ubuntu devs receive a lot of bug reports daily. It's virtually impossible to reply to every single one. [18:47] Bookman: please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [18:47] Now I'm thinking about turning from 14.04 to 14.10, may be there is a fix. No, there are users that claim, and the status of the problem was medium-high. [18:49] Bugs don't get fixed immediately. It occured many times that old bugs were still present in newer version but that doesn't mean they won't be fixed. I'm grateful I have a usable system and am confident that over time it gets better. Nothing is perfect. Please be more patient. I know sometimes it's a lot to ask, but that's the only thing you can do. [18:50] Bookman, you really shouldn't upgrade to 14.10, there's hardly a fix for that bug, and you'll just run into more problems [18:51] Yup, Utopic is in Alpha stages from what I recall. The general rule applies "if it ain't broken, don't fix it", meaning if you were on a previous version that worked and is still supported revert to it and wait until most of the stuff gets resolved. [18:52] utopic is not even in alpha yet. [18:52] Mea culpa. [18:52] So do I. I love Xubuntu also, because could solve some serious problems which occured in original Ubuntu, plus I'm a MacOSX user, so Xubuntu suit me too :). Well, I'll try to re-report the problem&search the existing one. Other services work even better than in ubuntu, so I won't leave Xubuntu. just want to understand the situation. Thx to all who answered me ;) [18:53] I'll try Xubuntu 14.10 under Virtualbox for testing. As I've understood that's a good way to test, right?) [18:54] while you're doing that you can do an install test for the community then \o/ http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/315/builds [18:55] ok, I just want to help too. Xubuntu has become much better than was a year or two ago :) , while the original Ubuntu becomes heavier...unfortunately [18:56] Bookman: thank you :) [18:56] hello guys [18:56] Bugs discussions except bugtracker can be help here or in xubuntu-devel? [18:56] Now for that movie..... laters [18:56] held* [18:57] I'm new herem and I'm looking for some help, but I don't know the protocol ? Should I wait or just make the question ? [18:59] What's the exact problem? Which version do You use (12.04.4; 14.04 or 13.10) [18:59] RodMarc: Just ask the question...but be patient, sometimes it takes a while for someone who knows the answer to answer. [19:00] or just try to simulate the problem :) [19:00] in words [19:04] Inoki: i'm not really around, but what's up? [19:05] thanks drc ... I just installed xubuntu 14.04 and after playing with look-and-feel configuration I started to suffer an issue. Logout or Power off options take at least 20 seconds to start working. After I while, I found tha I can fix temporarily the problem entering the terminal 1 window (ctrl+alt+f1). So I think it's something related to lightdm, but I don't know how to fix it permanently, because if I reboot the laptop, the logou [19:05] may be about testing Unicorn Daily....a real movie :D [19:05] Inoki: also, i already gave you an answer on g+, as i noticed now, so... [19:06] thanks in advance [19:06] You have recently installed a Xubuntu? [19:15] the issue is i can download .epub from en.flossmanuals.net and they work great but .epub my friend just sent me and the i created are .epub but not only linux distro but my android phone is treating them as Archives wtf ? [19:17] meek_geek, watch the language [19:17] knome, sorry [19:18] meek_geek: when you right click> properties on the epub icon (in thunar), what does the Open With say? [19:18] Archive Manager [19:19] but that is fine it says the same with every epub but it would not open like a book on android ! [19:19] Then it's doing what it knows how to do...change the Open With to the app you want it opened with. [19:23] drc, but sir the problem is FBreader on android is also treating it like a compressed folder ; === sjoshi is now known as zeroByte [19:25] meek_geek: I have no idea on android, but with Xubuntu, by default it opens an epub with the archive Manager until you install a management-tool/reader (such as Calibre or FBreader). [19:26] try to reconvert the file, may be *epub is broken [19:26] I actually just installed calibre and the Open With changed automagically from Arichive Manager to Calibre's epub reader. [19:26] I use FBreader, and it opens epub perfectly [19:26] meek_geek: Do you have FBreader installed on Xubuntu? [19:27] If so, does your FBreader knows what to do with epub (right-click and make for *epub FBreader by default) [19:30] and he's gone [19:30] well, I've got a question for you)) [19:30] and the answer is 42 [19:31] Have you had and experience with bluetooth on 14.04 [19:31] nope, don't have Bluetooth [19:31] okay, sorri))) [19:31] bookman, can you please stop asking random people? [19:31] bookman, you can search for other places while you wait [19:32] , but there is no activity now.....I thought so... [19:32] among others [19:32] asking random people doesn't help [19:33] if somebody knows the answer, they will most probably reply [19:33] if they don't, it doesn't help asking them [19:33] ok...no problem, the topic will sink [19:33] about that [19:55] Hello, . Yes installed the xubuntu 14.04 64 bits yesterday ... I installed tipical packages from "perfect xubuntu .... " recommendations ... plus java and netbeans packages. Nothing diferent than I've been doing from xubuntu 10xx [19:56] sorry for my english .. since xubuntu 10xx .. I made a clean installtion ... not an upgrade [20:00] No problem, I'm Russian, so my English is better than yours. Well...I see here one reason [20:00] How much RAM do you have and what processor? [20:01] I meant that my English IS NOT better than yours LOL [20:01] 0:01 the time is...so a bit sleepy [20:01] :D [20:02] :) [20:02] How much RAM do you have and what processor? [20:02] L'ets return :) [20:03] I've have a dell precision with a core i 7 and 8 GB ram and a 2 GB nvidia video card ... so it's not a slow machine :) [20:04] Wow...just an ancient HP pavilion dv5 with 3GB RAM:)) [20:04] :) [20:05] sonne, after pressing poweroff button you wait about half a minute for switching the item off? [20:05] or you wait fot STARTING to poweroff? [20:06] bookman, sorry got dc [20:06] Still cannot open it [20:06] Which epub reader do you use ? [20:06] a sec plz [20:07] ok [20:07] I use the latest alpha version [20:07] lol of what ? [20:08] 0.99.4, of FBreader [20:08] wow can you test a book for me ? [20:08] yep [20:08] :) [20:08] http://bayfiles.net/file/1ehPE/GSyyIB/copyleft.epub [20:09] this one ^ [20:09] pressing the poweroff or logout button or shutdown button in my upside panel show the window to (poweroff/logout/shutdown) inmediately. But when I press the button to really start the shutdown/logout process, I have to wait half a minute to see something happening [20:10] http://www.hostpic.org/view.php?filename=1405190140310101.png [20:10] that's okay [20:11] http://www.hostpic.org/view.php?filename=1405190140310101.png you should fight-click fot the eoub file like that (I'll send you a pic) [20:12] So I used terminal 1 to check possible problems in logs (syslog/lightdm logs/Xsession...), and doing this I found that after changing to terminal 1 window and going back to terminal 7, the logout/shutdwn process workd fine. [20:12] bookman, ok thanks [20:12] ;] [20:14] http://www.hostpic.org/view.php?filename=1405190143450105.png that's in russian, but I suppose you'll understand, just right-click and make FBreader as a default: you need to search inthe list, press on that and thent turn to section "default" [20:15] GUI button or on your laptop [20:15] ? === emma is now known as MeadServingWench [20:25] ochosi: replied. Finished watching a movie. [20:25] ochosi: this I want to achieve: http://i.imgur.com/YtPEQ2O.png [20:28] does anyone else have problems with xscreensaver being rendered on top of everything else all the time? [20:28] hello , does anyone has problem with swf files generally in xubuntu 14? [20:29] I cannot do anything because the screen keeps going black because of it [20:30] Xubuntu 12.04? [20:30] 14.40 [20:30] 04 [20:32] Strange, I thought Xubuntu left xscreensaver and now they use another one...forgot the name [20:33] yes, light-dm-locker or something like that. It's even more broken unfortunately. [20:34] Well...actually I turned that off and login automatically, but the item in 12.04.3 worked perfectly :) [20:35] may be you should turn that of by making the logging in automatically [20:35] I want to be able to lock my laptop. Having to shut it down or log out would be too much of a hassle. [20:36] Do you use X86_64 version? [20:36] yes [20:37] in i686 screenlocker works fine....may be the bugs of x86_64... [20:37] just checked [20:38] it's usually fine. Sometimes it displays the xscreensaver login form when it is not suppose to. It's not even working. If I move my mouse around windows and buttons become visible again. [20:38] im using light locker on both 32 and 64 bit without problems [20:38] MisterMom, do you have a laptop? [20:39] yes running 64 bit [20:39] after you open the lid and enter the password, is your screen not black? [20:39] sorry havent tryed that yet hang on [20:42] ah ha yes same problem here i usually dont close the lid lol [20:42] and on 32-bit?))) [20:42] no laptop on 32 [20:43] hm..... [20:43] ok...I'll try again [20:43] on HP laptop [20:44] mines asus [20:45] im sure totally diferent hardware [20:47] , Having re-checked the situation....I had the same but when I changed the time for powering off my screen the problem sank [20:47] Xubuntu 14.04 32-bit HP laptop [20:47] =) [20:47] does anyone has problem with shockwave files in Xubuntu; [20:48] do you have flash player installed? [20:48] which browser do you use? [20:48] yes adobe flash player 11.2 browser firefox and chromium [20:49] in both browser you have the problem? [20:49] browsers* [20:49] yes [20:50] eh...can you show the site with that item? [20:50] I'll try [20:50] nikola_, Remove chromiun and install Chrome, I had to do the same to watch youtube, I found it sucked in both firefox and chromium, but in chrome it is fine [20:50] it happens in the swf files that I have saved in my pc , youtube works perfectly [20:51] Ustream has problem [20:51] swf files are swish files right ? [20:52] swf files are shockwave files [20:53] I have try to copy the lib something flash player.so from versions 10.1 and 11.1 [20:53] nikola_, Then sorry I am of no use to help, but I dare guess you will be told it's a gfx driver issue [20:53] gfx driver issue? [20:54] sth freezes with swf file via the Net right? [20:54] everything seems to be a gfx driver issue in ubuntu :) [20:54] you use Radon? [20:54] Radeon/ [20:54] intel chipset series 4 [20:55] well...I'll probably agree with ...seems to be driver... [20:55] but honestly ^) [20:56] when I used original Ubuntu and Chromium....I had NO freezes under swf and flash [20:56] xubuntu and lubuntu is the only versions that can run fluently in my laptop for games with other versions even with ubuntu [20:56] In Xubuntu....I noticed freezes while using open drivers for video [20:56] Radeon [20:57] So....probably I'll say that you are not the only person [20:57] with xubuntu I do not need to download anything for gfx [20:57] I have similar problems with flash when I make full-screen mode, but when I used original Ubuntu everything went good [20:58] So do I ^) [20:58] may be ypu should make a downgrade to 12.04.4 [20:58] I play second life and trigger fluently with ubuntu I have too many crashes [20:58] I say that with caution [20:58] =) [20:59] I used Ubuntu 12.04.4 and hadn't such problems [20:59] In Xubuntu 14.04 there are.. [20:59] so you think is better for me to downgrade to 12.04? [20:59] you can't "downgrade" unless you do a new, clean install [21:00] =( [21:00] yes, like says.....but I say that with A BIG cautions [21:00] ok thanks for the help [21:00] because I don't know how messy your system is with files === MeadServingWench is now known as emma [21:01] 14:04 works perfect until I discover this problem [21:02] Honestly, I try to ignore such problem)))) [21:02] by not looking in full-screen mode as an exmple [21:02] try to change IN YOUR CURRENT system before downgrading [21:02] nikola_, did you already try to install 'xubuntu-restricted-extras' ? [21:07] wait download what? [21:08] no I do not have download xubuntu restricted extras [21:08] knome, humm i thought during installation there is a check box to install those which i allways check but it was not installed [21:09] installing now [21:09] me too I found them in software center [21:12] ok I wiil restart the laptop and come back === ratskinmahoney is now known as bartleby === bartleby is now known as ratskin === ratskin is now known as badger === badger is now known as bigbadger