[00:18] <TheFakeazneD525> hi valorie
[00:18]  * TheFakeazneD525 slides a iced mocha to valorie
[01:30] <Guest7138> Kubuntu 14.04 Live USB won't boot with my Nvidia NVS 4200 Nvidia Optimus graphic card ON. It freezes if I click Try Kubuntu or in later stages of installation.
[03:27] <sandman13> should I install Kubuntu or Debian 7 with KDE?
[03:40] <sandman13> should I install Kubuntu or Debian 7 with KDE?
[03:42] <genii> In the #kubuntu channel, we'll likely say Kubuntu. In the #debian channel they'll likely say Debian 7 with KDE.
[03:44] <sandman13> I am having a hard time choosing among these two
[04:16] <silv3r_m00n> the driver manager tool in system settings, what is the command to launch it ?
[04:22] <valorie> hi, TheFakeazneD525
[04:22] <valorie> thank you!
[04:22] <TheFakeazneD525> np
[04:23] <TheFakeazneD525> silv3r_m00n: just type drivers into krunner and you should see something
[04:24] <silv3r_m00n> TheFakeazneD525: yeah, it does, how do i know the command name ?
[04:25] <TheFakeazneD525> hmm...
[04:25] <TheFakeazneD525> onesec
[04:27] <TheFakeazneD525> silv3r_m00n: er, why do you need the specific command, just asking
[04:27] <valorie> I just did an apt-cache search, and don't see any likely package names to invoke
[04:29] <silv3r_m00n> TheFakeazneD525: i think, the krunner method will do
[04:30] <TheFakeazneD525> ah, ok
[04:31] <valorie> darn, the person who needed bumblebee is gone
[04:31] <valorie> !optimus
[04:31] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: ah yes, optimus
[04:32] <TheFakeazneD525> another nVidia technology that makes the shift from Windows to *nix harder >_
[04:32] <TheFakeazneD525> Their products are good, don't get me wrong
[04:32] <valorie> oh well, they will find it somehow, i hope
[04:32] <TheFakeazneD525> but their stance on Linux is totally backwards
[04:32] <valorie> of course
[04:32] <valorie> they look at the bottom line, instead of to the future
[04:33] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: I think Linus puts it best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
[04:33] <valorie> heh
[04:38] <jussi> nvidia isnt actually that bad tbh.
[06:36] <pd520c> cddd
[06:36] <pd520c> hello
[06:37] <valorie> huh
[06:38] <anukul> zzz
[06:42] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: you here?
[06:44] <valorie> yes
[06:49] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: so, someone is having problems with their Xorg, most likely a driver problem... and they're not sure if networking is up...
[06:50] <TheFakeazneD525> and now they say the keyboard isn't working
[06:50] <valorie> oh lord
[06:50] <TheFakeazneD525> 2006 toaster
[06:50] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: fresh install, no PPAs, literally installed minutes ago
[06:50] <valorie> was the ISO verified?
[06:51] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: Unetbootin install
[06:51] <valorie> ok, but checked?
[06:51] <valorie> !checksum
[06:51] <valorie> AND did the livesession have problems?
[06:51] <TheFakeazneD525> im... not sure if unetbootin does...
[06:51] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: they directly installed iirc
[06:53] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: http://i60.tinypic.com/2a9nqcl.jpg
[06:54] <TheFakeazneD525> thats what they got before install
[06:54] <valorie> and then they went ahead and did it?
[06:54] <valorie> yikes
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: er, it somehow fixed itself
[06:55] <valorie> ok......
[06:55] <valorie> what version did they install?
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> then, when they rebooted, it broke, and the second time, keyboard didn't work and black screen
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: 14.04 LTS
[06:55] <valorie> gads
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> good ole Trusty
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: should I give them an older ISO?
[06:55] <valorie> well, I would try 12.04
[06:56] <valorie> you are asking like I'm some kind of expert!
[06:56] <valorie> lol
[06:56] <TheFakeazneD525> you're more so than me D:
[06:56] <valorie> given that it is an older computer
[06:56] <TheFakeazneD525> and I'll suggest 12.04
[06:56] <valorie> I would try the older install, and see how it goes
[06:56] <valorie> my 6 year old laptop was OK with 14.04
[06:56] <valorie> but who knows
[06:57] <TheFakeazneD525> also... it has nVidia
[06:57] <valorie> lovely
[06:57] <TheFakeazneD525> god help us all
[06:57] <valorie> !nvidia
[06:57] <valorie> if necessary
[08:11] <rvdv> SO I installed handbrake to convert a mkv file to mp4, but that option is not available; only can make another mkv file ... how come? Have made many mp4's and m4v's before with handbrake.
[08:14] <valorie> handbrake isn't KDE or kubuntu software, rvdv
[08:15] <valorie> rvdv: I don't see a handbrake channel here on freenode
[08:15] <rvdv> OK valorie, going to ask in the #ubuntu channel
[08:15] <valorie> oops, I do too: #handbrake
[08:16] <valorie> silly alis....
[08:16] <rvdv> OK, thanks
[08:16] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ocGo98C3Bo something to watch :P
[08:17] <valorie> umm
[08:17] <valorie> no
[08:18] <rvdv> :-)
[09:25] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[09:26] <ovidiu-florin> on the add printer wizzard the browse button for samba shared printers is dissabled. Why and how do I get around it?
[09:58] <rvdv> ovidiu-florin: would like to know the answer to that too ... seems this issue already exists for a few years. Maybe you can add a samba printer through the webinterface from CUPS http://localhost:631/
[10:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:57] <sandman13> Kubuntu is not hosted by Canonical?
[10:57] <lordievader> sandman13: Hosted?
[10:58] <lordievader> Lots of Kubuntu things are on Canonical servers, if that is what you mean.
[10:58] <sandman13> lordievader: supported like Ubuntu
[10:58] <sandman13> ?
[10:58] <sandman13> or is Kubuntu developed by Canonical like Ubuntu?
[11:00] <lordievader> sandman13: No, Kubuntu's devels are payed by Bluesystems.
[11:02] <sandman13> lordievader: I am asking because I can't decide whether I switch to Debian 7 with KDE or Kubuntu, I have tried both but can't decide. My knowledge with linux is somewhat intermediate
[11:02] <lordievader> How would this influence that descision?
[11:03] <sandman13> I don't like Canonical so
[11:04] <lordievader> To each his own, but without Canonical Kubuntu wouldn't exist ;)
[11:05] <sandman13> yeah true
[11:43] <ovidiu-florin> rvdv: there is no browse function in the web interface
[11:43] <ovidiu-florin> and if I try the gnome version I get this when attempting to start it http://paste.kde.org/psxqehqv3/yflueb
[11:44] <ovidiu-florin> I got no responce in #ubuntu
[12:09] <Walex> sandman13: The various Ubuntu flavours are just different sets of packages from the very same archives for the same distribution.
[12:10] <Walex> sandman13: and Canonical even if sometimes they are a bit too clever are a force for good overall.
[13:07] <markit> anyone has dolphin find (^f) (filename search) working? Without baloo it gives "protocol error", with baloo it just does not find anything. I've kde 4.13.0 backport in kubuntu 12.04, but also in a netbook with kubuntu 14.04 I've a similar problem
[13:09] <hubelibub> hi! what are your favorite kde apps?
[13:16] <average_guy> choqok and digikam are what attracted me to KDE hubelibub
[13:21] <hubelibub> i really like digikam. and also kdenlive
[13:23] <hubelibub> i'll try choqok :)
[13:35] <markit> found a solution. If you set baloo to ignore /home, it uses "old" filesearch that works fine :)
[14:01] <Walex> markit: that's rather peculiar... But helpful
[14:02] <Walex> as to KDE apps, aKregator and Konversation are very good, as well as basKet. Gwenview I also like. of course Konqueror too.
[14:05] <Walex> I used to like KMail and Kontact in general in KDE3.
[14:06] <Walex> Calligra is good, and I like Karbon and Krita too.
[14:15] <rberg_> Hi all. I am not sure how this all works so I will ask. do the packages from the kubuntu-updates ppa ever make it into the regular updates? as in if I wait will 4.13.1 become available without adding a ppa?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> rberg_, eventually yes, just enable the backports for new kde releases
[14:21] <rberg_> cool. thanks!
[14:43] <Walex> rberg_: that's not a good question.
[14:43] <Walex> rberg_: and BluesKaj's answer is a bit off the target.
[14:43] <Walex> rberg_: the questions you should be asking is "What is Ubuntu's policy for package version upgrades by release?"
[14:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , I should have said , kubuntu-backports
[14:44] <rberg_> Walex: sure.. that sounds like what I was asking.. I am trying to avoid PPA's this time around
[14:46] <Walex> rberg_: the overall policy is that to get newer versions of a package you must upgrade to a new version.
[14:47] <Walex> rberg_: so 4.13.1 will surely end up in some current or future version of Kubuntu.
[14:47] <rberg_> heh
[14:47] <Walex> rberg_: then as <BluesKaj> was saying sometimes stuff appears magically in the backports archive.
[14:47] <rberg_> will it end up in 14.04 more specifically?
[14:48] <Walex> rberg_: 14.04 is already released and IIRC it has 4.13, not sure about 4.13.1
[14:48] <BluesKaj> no kidding , why else would kde upgrades be developed ? :)
[14:49] <rberg_> I was not sure if point releases get into the official repos.. I assume 4.14 wont (if there is one)
[14:49] <Walex> rberg_: but basically Ubuntu/Kubuntu like Debian are "stable" releases. The difference between LTS and the others is just the length of support.
[14:49] <Walex> rberg_: 4.14 when it happens may end up in Kubuntu 14.10 for example.
[14:50] <doctorpepper> hi guys !!
[14:51] <doctorpepper> has anyone been able  to make  pam-kwallet work on kubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, not many using 12.04 anymore, and sorry I can't help with wallet apps, since I don't use them.
[15:16] <doctorpepper> bluejack, actually  the version of kubuntu is not a problem  as far  as i understand the issue  i have has to do with pam  more than anything else.
[15:18] <doctorpepper> i actually compiled and installed pam-kwallet  and tried to configure pam but failed.
[15:50] <hyper_ch> Hi there, since 14.04 I have big problems with USB 3.0. I get slow speeds and my load skyrockets massively.... and right now I just noticed that xhci- isn't even loaded
[15:51] <hyper_ch> I modprobed xhci-hcd - no error... but when I lsmod afterwards, still nothing loaded
[15:53] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, where are you copying from and to where?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> what kinds of files, encrypted?
[15:54] <hyper_ch> root system is encrypted of course
[15:54] <hyper_ch> why?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> encryption slows copy speeds afaik
[15:55] <hyper_ch> why would encryption slow copying?
[15:56] <hyper_ch> but copying 4GB of data from an encrpyted SSD on a cpu with aes-ni to usb 3.0 disk shouldn't take 5 minutes
[15:56] <hyper_ch> and as said, xhci-hcd isn't even loaded according to lsmod
[15:57] <BluesKaj> dunno, not familiar with xhci-hcd
[15:57] <hyper_ch> that's the usb 3.0 kernel mod
[15:58] <hyper_ch> hyper@subi:~$ sudo modprobe xhci-hcd ; lsmod | grep xhci
[15:58] <hyper_ch> hyper@subi:~$
[18:03] <lordievader> Good evening.
[19:22] <DarthFrog>  Answers are $1, correct answers are $10.  Dumb looks are still free.
[19:26] <lordievader> Variable '1' not found, did you mean '$i'?; Variable '10' not found, did you mean '$2'?;
[19:27] <DarthFrog> :-)
[19:28] <DarthFrog> And they're invariant, not negotiable!
[19:28] <SonikkuAmerica> print $1
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica> DarthFrog: We charge extra for blue unicorn ponies.
[19:33] <DarthFrog> Sold my last one yesterday.
[19:34] <DarthFrog> I'm down to pink centaurs.
[19:39] <mr-rich> Answers are €1, correct answers are €10. Dumb looks are still free.
[19:39] <DarthFrog> Now that's inflation!
[19:40] <mr-rich> but won't confuse CLI ... :)
[19:41] <lordievader> ERROR: Symbol '€' not recognized.
[19:41] <lordievader> :P
[19:41] <DarthFrog> :-)
[19:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Inflation indeed. Maybe I should start charging in Indian rupees
[21:02] <lunife> hello,is there a way to add custom emoticons to kde thelepathy?
[21:05] <hubelibub> hi! when is the new version of digikam coming to kubuntu repositories?
[22:35] <blahblah> test
[22:35] <blahblah> hello all