[06:26] <bazhang> * [Robbie] (~Rob@93-44-60-19.ip95.fastwebnet.it): Rob
[06:27] <bazhang> anyone familiar with that IP?
[06:29] <rww> already checked, just came up with various instances of him
[06:29] <rww> one of which was a Comcast address, but I assume that was someone else
[06:29] <bazhang> ok thanks. I thought we had a factoid refuting what he was asking
[06:52] <bazhang> lordie
[06:53] <elky> any minute now
[06:54] <ikonia> ....I think not......
[06:54] <rww> elky: nah, he'll try to join #poobuntu-cops instead of here
[06:54] <elky> lol
[06:56] <bazhang> hahaha
[06:59] <bazhang> * [FamilyFriendlyHa] (~asshat@173-24-135-10.client.mchsi.com):
[07:00] <rww> yeah, they changed their nick from asshat at someone's request earlier
[07:00] <rww> asshat1, even
[07:01] <valorie> at least they were being honest, right?
[07:02] <rww> oh
[07:02] <rww> valorie
[07:02] <rww> <loco hat>is there a page somewhere with kubuntu promotional materials?
[07:02] <bazhang> haha
[07:03] <rww> like flyers and what not
[07:03] <valorie> um, I think so -- searching
[07:03] <Flannel> SU?
[07:03] <bazhang> get ikonia to ddos him with flyers
[07:04] <valorie> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-promo
[07:07] <rww> Anything with newer branding and that doesn't mention 6.06 ;)?
[07:07] <valorie> oh my
[07:07] <Flannel> rww: have you checked SU?
[07:07] <rww> (also, the poster in that repo didn't compile for me)
[07:07] <rww> Flannel: no, because I only just managed to expand SU
[07:07] <Flannel> oh sorry
[07:08] <Flannel> Well, you should've asked :P
[07:08] <ikonia> whats SU ?
[07:08] <rww> ikonia: spreadubuntu
[07:08] <ikonia> oh
[07:08] <Flannel> (I don't know what's on there for Kubuntu, but it'd be a good place to check)
[07:08] <valorie> there is good KDE promo stuff
[07:08] <valorie> and some kubuntu stuff on Spreadubuntu
[07:08] <rww> that might be useful too, if you have a link
[07:09] <rww> looking on spreadubuntu now :)
[07:09] <valorie> I'll get the kde stuff
[07:09] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Promo/Material
[07:11] <valorie> www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php
[07:15] <rww> thanks
[07:15] <rww> might end up taking one of the SU flyers and updating it a bit
[07:15] <bazhang> jono has no nick protection? seriously?
[07:16] <rww> yes he does...
[07:16] <bazhang> * jono is now known as Guest96931
[07:16] <rww> which is a demonstration of how he does have nick protection...
[07:17] <bazhang> the /whois says jono bacon
[07:17] <rww> he has nick protection. he doesn't have a sane reliable authentication method configured.
[07:17] <bazhang> heh ok
[07:17] <Flannel> anyone could put "jono bacon" in their whois :P
[07:18] <bazhang> thats shocking to me
[07:18] <bazhang> like esr asking for help with something simple in #xubuntu
[07:18] <valorie> mmmm, bacon
[07:18] <Flannel> bazhang: Don't read RFC 3514
[07:18] <bazhang> Bake&
[07:18] <valorie> lol
[07:18] <bazhang> Flannel, ok
[07:19] <rww> bazhang: if i recall correctly, sabdfl has forgotten his NickServ password at least once
[07:19] <rww> Canonical employees are humans too :3
[07:19] <bazhang> hilarious!
[07:19] <rww> except for popey, he's a robot
[07:19] <bazhang> well ofc
[07:20] <valorie> I have it set up in konversation and again in the BNC
[07:20] <elky> he's an elvis droid
[07:20] <popey> \o/
[07:20] <elky> fuelled by marmite
[07:21] <valorie> !
[07:21] <valorie> what a terrible thing to say about a person!
[07:22] <Flannel> the marmite bit?
[07:22] <popey> It's all true
[07:22] <valorie> foul stuff
[07:23] <popey> lies
[07:24] <valorie> well, I haven't done a comparative test vegemite/marmite
[07:24] <valorie> yet
[07:24] <elky> oh no, you said the v word
[07:25] <valorie> but I've tasted black sausage, and haggis
[07:25] <valorie> and lived
[07:26] <bazhang> try snake's blood soup
[07:26] <valorie> oh, my god
[07:26] <popey> mmmm black pudding
[07:26] <popey> well, technically.. "food" mmmmm
[07:26] <valorie> elky: this is all your fault!
[07:26] <bazhang> or for lighter fare, congealed pigs blood on a stick
[07:27] <rww> if we wait long enough one of the northern europeans will mention lutefisk
[07:27] <valorie> that I've not tasted
[07:27] <bazhang> looks like a popsicle, tastes like blood!
[07:27] <valorie> pickled herring, yes
[07:28] <valorie> no Surströmming either
[07:32] <jussi> nor I, and don't intend to
[07:32] <valorie> which one, jussi?
[07:33] <jussi> potentially though, we should continue this conversation in some -offtopic channel
[07:33] <valorie> pickled herring was good
[07:33] <jussi> valorie: lutefisk
[07:33] <valorie> ah
[07:33] <valorie> sounds vile
[09:05] <ikonia> muted
[09:06] <k1l_> made trouble with his own 4 clients
[09:07] <ikonia> of course
[10:42] <ikonia> hello john3213
[13:47] <Pricey> @btlogin
[15:47] <popey> Pricey: Why do you use backward question marks⸮
[15:49] <Pricey> popey: Because I can't afford a license to the alternative.
[15:50] <popey> 12 Points. You are through to the next round.
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[19:04] <IdleOne> wtf why u being such a d about the effin words
[19:05] <IdleOne> seems pretty clear that these acronyms, abbreviations and obfuscations should not be allowed in any ubuntu channels
[19:07] <IdleOne> enforcing it is left up to the ops of the individual channels. Common sense is what dictates to the ops how to enforce the language guidelines.
[19:07] <IdleOne> I really really hope that we never have an "official" list
[19:07] <h00k> I'd edit IdleOne to be on it :(
[19:07] <h00k> IdleOne
[19:07] <h00k> NO SWEARING h00k
[19:08] <IdleOne> :)
[19:08] <IdleOne> I luv u2
[19:08] <h00k> ;)
[19:12] <tsimpson> we've had the discussion over having a list of disallowed words, it's just not realistic to maintain such a document
[19:14] <IdleOne> Not only is it not realistic, I think it would be silly of us to even think of trying
[19:14] <phunyguy> ^
[19:15] <phunyguy> also, hi
[19:15] <IdleOne> There is no such list precisely because we want ops to use common sense and not follow the letter of the law.
[19:16] <IdleOne> s/not follow/not always follow/
[19:23] <Pricey> IdleOne: You seriously don't think words like "dictator" should be used anywhere, yet you just used the word "dictates".... I'm not sure that's consistent.
[19:23] <IdleOne> Pricey: my use of the "d" word was not to replace dictator
[19:23] <IdleOne> This is why we use common sense, intent is 99% of text
[19:23] <Pricey> IdleOne: I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not.
[19:24] <Pricey> IdleOne: sabdfl is an acronym where the d stands for dictator.
[19:24] <Pricey> Is that allowed?
[19:24] <IdleOne> Pricey: My intent was to obfuscate "dick"
[19:24] <IdleOne> see how that d word is no longer a nice word
[19:25] <Pricey> Dick's a good friend.
[19:25] <Pricey> His parents call him Richard.
[19:25] <IdleOne> I have no issue with the word dictator itself, but I do have issue if it is used to insult someone.
[19:25] <IdleOne> clearly its use in sabdfl is meant as tongue and cheek
[19:26] <Pricey> Oh so it's alright when it's a joke, totally wrong otherwise.
[19:26] <IdleOne> yes, intent.
[19:26] <IdleOne> if you mean to call me a dictator because I enforce the guidelines of the community we are a part of, then yes it is not ok.
[19:27] <Pricey> Even if it is being used in a purely descriptive manner?
[19:27] <IdleOne> this is where common sense comes into play
[19:28] <Pricey> 19:26:55 <+IdleOne> if you mean to call me a dictator because I enforce the guidelines of the community we are a part of, then yes it is not ok.
[19:28] <IdleOne> this is why we should not have a list of banned words
[19:28] <IdleOne> Pricey: again it all depends on the intent
[19:28] <Pricey> IdleOne: So we can't say things like 19:26:55 <+IdleOne> if you mean to call me a dictator because I enforce the guidelines of the community we are a part of, then yes it is not ok.
[19:29] <IdleOne> Now I don't know if you're joking or not
[19:30] <Pricey> A few moments ago you suggested that it is not ok to call someone a dictator for enforcing the guidelines.
[19:30] <Pricey> Then you say that it is ok... depending on the intent.
[19:30] <Pricey> I'm asking you retract the first bit.
[19:31] <IdleOne> I won't
[19:31] <IdleOne> and I also won't continue this discussion
[19:31] <Pricey> Don't you feel like they are contradictory?
[19:32] <IdleOne> I feel you are being contradictory just for the sake of it now.
[19:32] <IdleOne> back to my game.
[19:32] <Pricey> I think there's a big issue here where bunches of guidelines, policies, edge cases etc. are enforced... and THEN common sense is used. I feel we're doing it the wrong way around.
[19:36] <Pricey> IdleOne: If you feel I've missquoted you over the last 15 minutes then please give me a smack.
[19:37] <IdleOne> You haven't misquoted me, but you are intentionally not reading between the lines and trying to understand what my intent is. This wouldn't bother me so much if you were not a native English speaker.
[19:38] <IdleOne> But clearly your mastery of the English language is sufficient enough to know what I mean.
[19:38] <phunyguy> dictator can be used to compare someone to the likes of Hitler, etc.  That is where the "mean" comes into play.
[19:40] <Pricey> Yes!
[19:41] <Pricey> So saying things like "if you mean to call me a dictator because I enforce the guidelines of the community we are a part of, then yes it is not ok" isn't going to get us anywhere. There's nothing wrong with calling you a dictator.
[19:41] <phunyguy> Pricey, also with sabdfl, the b stands for benevolent.
[19:41] <Pricey> phunyguy: Well aware.
[19:42] <phunyguy> "well meaning and kindly."
[19:42] <phunyguy> well we can't pick and choose sections of an acronym for the sake of argument...
[19:43] <CarlFK> I am not sure there is anything worth arguing about ;)
[19:44] <phunyguy> Also Pricey I do agree with what you said about the guidelines, policies, etc, being enforced, then common sense being used.
[19:44] <Pricey> phunyguy: How do you mean sorry?
[19:44] <CarlFK> people will say whatever they want.  if someone else has a problem with it, there is a process.  the process seems to work really well.
[19:44] <phunyguy> I umm...
[19:44] <phunyguy> what?
[19:45] <Pricey> phunyguy: I'd like to confirm what you're agreeing with by seeing it in your own words.
[19:46] <phunyguy> I would rather not jump into all of that right now, but basically blindly following and enforcing guidelines, when there wasn't any malicious intent,
[19:48] <phunyguy> there is obviously way more, but I would prefer not to discuss that at the moment.
[19:50] <Pricey> phunyguy: Cool, sounds good to me. Why would you rather not discuss things?
[19:51] <phunyguy> if I told you that, it would defeat the purpose.
[19:52] <phunyguy> :)
[19:53]  * phunyguy wanders off to finish the work day.
[19:56] <Pricey> Doesn't sound constructive :-/