| diddledan | omg: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/16/apple-google-settlement/ | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | aah it's not as important as I thought it was after reading it | 00:11 |
| daftykins | can't we just get along? | 00:12 |
| diddledan | only as long as you don't make your sheet of glass flat and rectangular | 00:17 |
| diddledan | virgin media have netflix | 00:20 |
| diddledan | that's new | 00:20 |
| daftykins | O_O | 00:20 |
| diddledan | and they have their tivo thingy | 00:20 |
| daftykins | as in, an app on their set top box? | 00:20 |
| diddledan | yeah | 00:20 |
| diddledan | sky on the other hand are trying to make a new walled garden of their own | 00:21 |
| daftykins | indeed, i saw it had updated on the boss' box | 00:21 |
| daftykins | i got asked to take a look at it one day haha, as no channels were working | 00:21 |
| daftykins | the ol' power cord trick did it | 00:21 |
| diddledan | one of my lnb feeds is broken on my sky setup :-( | 00:24 |
| diddledan | I need to call sky to come over to fix it | 00:24 |
| daftykins | it's probably cheaper just to buy a new LNB and slap it on :> | 00:24 |
| daftykins | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/16/imessages-issue-lawsuit/ | 00:35 |
| daftykins | lol | 00:35 |
| diddledan | yeah I saw that | 00:35 |
| diddledan | bit of a stupid situation apple landed themselves in with that | 00:35 |
| diddledan | I guess they thought once someone had an iphone they wouldn't ever want to go elsewhere | 00:37 |
| shauno | it's just messups in layers | 00:38 |
| diddledan | shauno, like the third reich? | 00:38 |
| shauno | eg, the address book lets you put in phone numbers as different types .. phone, office, etc. one of htem is 'iphone' | 00:39 |
| shauno | if you put in a number as an iphone number, when it's not going to an iphone, you'll cause exactly the same situation | 00:39 |
| diddledan | hah | 00:39 |
| shauno | and then there's imessage taking way too long to timeout on delivering it as an imessage, which has to time out on your side & apple's (before it gives up and resends as sms) | 00:40 |
| daftykins | hey guys | 00:40 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxxd6kokb2xwfcx/IMG_20140516_165146.jpg | 00:40 |
| daftykins | i just can't giggle enough at those prices | 00:40 |
| shauno | you've never priced out a xeon workstation from another vendor then? | 00:41 |
| shauno | last time I tried, there was surprisingly little difference between dell & apple | 00:41 |
| daftykins | i haven't no | 00:42 |
| diddledan | the dual firepro amd GPU cards is prolly a large percentage of that | 00:42 |
| shauno | it's amazing how much difference (price-wise) the xeon makes :/ (what actual difference it makes, I have no idea .. I have no xeons recent enough to compare) | 00:43 |
| diddledan | I don't get the difference between workstation class gpu and gaming gpu is | 00:44 |
| daftykins | someone i know from another channel was actually speccing up a cheap upgrade | 00:45 |
| daftykins | instead of an i5, she picked some Xeon 2354 or similar, it seems to perform as well as an i7-4770K but for £200 | 00:45 |
| shauno | the one in the "entry level" mac pro is a $600 processor :/ | 00:46 |
| daftykins | exchange rate is almost 1.7:1 right now :O | 00:48 |
| shauno | the gpus are weird though. it's not two running in parallel. only one of them actually has any influence on the display | 00:49 |
| shauno | the other one is entirely deadweight unless you have one of very few loads that use it for computation rather than graphics | 00:49 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtorpc6mk0qdc7t/IMG_20140519_014933.jpg | 00:51 |
| daftykins | have an olive | 00:51 |
| shauno | lol, nice | 00:52 |
| shauno | I think all in all the price isn't the bizarre part. it's trying to put a xeon workstation in a small form-factor (and people who'll pay the extra grand without actually requiring a workstation) | 00:53 |
| shauno | I've completely messed my sleep pattern up :/ antibiotics kick me in the pants | 00:56 |
| diddledan | shauno, welcome to nocturnal | 00:59 |
| daftykins | shauno: you were pretty quirky before no? doesn't that mean you're waking up normally for a 9-5 now? :D | 00:59 |
| shauno | I've always been "quirky" but napping 2-10pm took it to a whole new level | 01:00 |
| daftykins | wow. | 01:02 |
| daftykins | i just got linked to this | 01:03 |
| daftykins | https://imgur.com/gallery/0K2iD | 01:03 |
| daftykins | the postman pat one omg | 01:03 |
| diddledan | omg. bbc three right now - tyger the older boy from "outnumbered" - his dad happens to be britain's number one male porn start | 01:03 |
| diddledan | star* | 01:03 |
| shauno | I had no idea they were ranked | 01:09 |
| shauno | I think this'll make me "officially old", but there's actually some pretty decent stuff on radio4 | 01:15 |
| shauno | hm, youtube buying Twitch doesn't sound like it'll end well for anyone | 01:34 |
| daftykins | oh deary me | 01:35 |
| daftykins | confirmed happening? | 01:35 |
| shauno | not confirmed yet, that I know of | 01:38 |
| daftykins | oh guys this is gold | 01:53 |
| daftykins | http://jimllpaintit.tumblr.com/ | 01:53 |
| brx_ | anyone got a link for the new game of thrones? | 01:59 |
| daftykins | that's not appropriate for this channel or network | 02:01 |
| brx_ | soz dad | 02:08 |
| daftykins | lawl so funny | 02:09 |
| daftykins | took you 7 minutes to come up with that | 02:09 |
| brx_ | your mum said stop being cheeky to your new dad | 02:12 |
| daftykins | you should be asleep it's a school night | 02:12 |
| brx_ | daftykins, shut up and find me a link | 02:15 |
| daftykins | leave. | 02:15 |
| brx_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkL1K3rLPWw | 02:17 |
| shauno | ooh, I forgot it's GoT night. that'll mean there's another episode of Cosmos up | 02:18 |
| brx_ | i really wanna watch it :( | 02:21 |
| shauno | then quit wasting your time in the wrong place | 02:22 |
| daftykins | shauno: http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/137320543/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/tumblr_mixypynaCh1s6ylubo1_1280.jpg | 02:24 |
| shauno | henry vs dyson. that's difficult | 02:25 |
| shauno | wait, tyson on a dyson? | 02:25 |
| daftykins | apparently it's goldie | 02:25 |
| daftykins | whom i do not know | 02:25 |
| shauno | ow | 02:26 |
| brx_ | hes a drum and bass producer. dafty the next link had better be got or im gonna have to regulate you | 02:26 |
| brx_ | daftykins* | 02:27 |
| daftykins | that was ace | 02:27 |
| daftykins | i thought the degenerate drink of choice was white lightning though, what's that stuff 0o | 02:27 |
| shauno | I get the impression that's what he's going for, but with a less family-friendly name | 02:30 |
| brx_ | IVE FOUND IT | 02:31 |
| brx_ | SCREW YOU daftykins | 02:31 |
| daftykins | i'd prefer you go die in a fire now | 02:31 |
| brx_ | RIGHTUPYOURARSE | 02:31 |
| daftykins | sorry i'm more into the ladies. | 02:31 |
| brx_ | well you just too a length. i hope you enjoyed that. | 02:32 |
| brx_ | im only joking mate, have a good night | 02:33 |
| daftykins | in all seriousness are you <20? | 02:36 |
| brx_ | 17 | 02:38 |
| brx_ | i bossed you though didnt i? | 02:38 |
| daftykins | nope not even a good try | 02:42 |
| daftykins | also you sound like a real chav :( but i'm getting personal now so i shall stop | 02:42 |
| brx_ | a chav? far from it | 02:43 |
| brx_ | daftykins can we make friends | 02:52 |
| jussi | Morning all | 04:36 |
| MooDoo | morning | 06:05 |
| jussi | morning mr MooDoo | 06:06 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: | 06:07 |
| davmor2 | morning | 06:07 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: ello | 06:07 |
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| MooDoo | how are you jussi davmor2 | 06:22 |
| jussi | MooDoo: not bad. still in the "alive" area... :D | 06:24 |
| MooDoo | cool | 06:24 |
| Myrtti | I'm still stiff and sore :-| | 06:46 |
| Myrtti | also feeling a bit paranoid about my nose being a bit stuffy | 06:47 |
| Myrtti | was sitting in the back garden yesterday waiting for the bbq to warm up when something wet landed on the edge of my sunglass and in my eye | 06:47 |
| Myrtti | --> now wondering what kind of eye pox I get | 06:48 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: Alien spores. | 06:49 |
| Myrtti | MartijnVdS: bird flu or something like that has occurred to me | 06:49 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: maybe it was just some insect droppings | 06:50 |
| Myrtti | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p180x540/10341857_10152442119142065_6535201542531891974_n.jpg | 06:51 |
| Myrtti | evidence says no | 06:51 |
| MartijnVdS | BBQ grease? | 06:52 |
| Myrtti | bird poop | 06:53 |
| MartijnVdS | A drop from a leaky airplane toilet | 06:54 |
| Myrtti | and that's supposed to make me feel better than the thought of a bird poop? | 06:54 |
| Myrtti | you failed, my friend | 06:54 |
| MartijnVdS | oh you wanted to feel *better* :P | 06:54 |
| MartijnVdS | sorry ;) | 06:54 |
| Myrtti | :-P | 06:54 |
| bashrc | morning | 08:06 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: sprinting lots of meetings | 08:18 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: boo | 08:21 |
| Laney | virgin fault this morning | 08:35 |
| * Laney wah | 08:35 | |
| * Laney lag | 08:35 | |
| diplo | Morning all | 09:06 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:14 |
| xnox | Laney: hm, virgin announced downtime for me on friday. what is all about, i wonder.... | 09:31 |
| Laney | xnox: gremlins crawling around the cablez | 09:33 |
| Laney | about three days to crawl from london to nottm | 09:33 |
| xnox | Laney: that's ok, i have a water sprinkler. oh wait.... | 09:33 |
| Laney | sounds plausible to me | 09:34 |
| mapps | feel so grateful that we could | 09:42 |
| mapps | donated 2.5k to kings a&e few months back and theres people crying over 2 quid | 09:43 |
| mapps | :D | 09:43 |
| dvrr | Hi everyone .............. | 11:04 |
| czajkowski | Myrtti: are you close to Helsinki oslo or stockholm! | 11:30 |
| Myrtti | nope :-/ | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | jussi: I'm coming! June 11th to Helsinki | 11:30 |
| Myrtti | merry old England for me | 11:30 |
| jussi | czajkowski: woohoo! | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | June 12th Stockholm | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | and June 10th Oslo | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | you had better show your face! :) | 11:31 |
| czajkowski | Myrtti: ohh didnt know you're over here now full time | 11:31 |
| Laney | haz internet | 11:36 |
| jussi | Laney: congratulations :D | 11:37 |
| Laney | :P | 11:37 |
| dvrr | How to configure windows user authentication by linux samba ldap centos 6 please guide me | 11:40 |
| dvrr | i configured in centos 5.6 it's working but how to configure centos 6 | 11:42 |
| feisar_ | I believe you want to be looking at SSSD | 11:44 |
| dvrr | MooDoo: | 11:44 |
| daftykins | hrmm i have an old macbook of a pals to look at today | 11:45 |
| jussi | daftykins: dont do it! :P | 11:48 |
| jussi | itll poison you! :P | 11:49 |
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| daftykins | it's ok i'm immune! | 11:49 |
| daftykins | i have to deal with macs for someone and i already lul at their fair share of problems | 11:49 |
| jussi | :) | 11:51 |
| jussi | daftykins: ok then, but use protection...... :P? | 11:51 |
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| daftykins | jussi: ok, Naked Gun full body you know what now donned | 12:05 |
| jussi | ... | 12:09 |
| jussi | daftykins: you scared Moodoo off! :P | 12:09 |
| daftykins | he always was a wee bit squeamish | 12:12 |
| jussi | lol | 12:14 |
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| Myrtti | could someone fix my ice hockey video stream ;___; | 13:44 |
| SuperEngineer | Myrtti: done! did my fix work? | 13:45 |
| SuperEngineer | [might take a while for the telepathy to work] | 13:45 |
| Myrtti | no :-( | 13:45 |
| SuperEngineer | darn! | 13:45 |
| Myrtti | I've paid to see this game on this shoddy stream ;____; | 13:45 |
| SuperEngineer | I just phoned Microsoft to see if they could you - they asked "have you tried rebboting?" | 13:47 |
| SuperEngineer | *rebooting | 13:47 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 13:48 |
| popey | hello all | 13:48 |
| SuperEngineer | boo! | 13:49 |
| SuperEngineer | popey is now known as popeyjustranamileinfrightcozsomeonewentboo! | 13:51 |
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| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 14:38 |
| diddledan | ditto | 14:49 |
| diddledan | morning | 14:50 |
| daftykins | hi sir | 14:50 |
| daftykins | s | 14:50 |
| awilkins | Some of us are in the tail end of the afternoon | 14:50 |
| daftykins | i hate macs. | 14:51 |
| awilkins | Someone wants me to port an application to one | 14:51 |
| daftykins | they don't give decent reasons as to why they won't boot things :P | 14:51 |
| daftykins | o rly | 14:51 |
| awilkins | It's a Java app | 14:51 |
| daftykins | that's... surely not much work then? | 14:51 |
| awilkins | So technically it should just be a matter of dropping in the Mac binaries for the native libs it uses | 14:52 |
| awilkins | But also have to remove the references to i) The Windows Registry ii) Outlook and iii) The Windows help system | 14:52 |
| awilkins | I feel some dependency injection coming on | 14:52 |
| awilkins | Well, I think I'll just straight out port the help to something less awful | 14:53 |
| awilkins | I mean, it's basically an embedded browser... you'd think the help would be available from within it... | 14:53 |
| daftykins | :D | 14:54 |
| daftykins | alrighty, making some progress with this thing at last | 15:06 |
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| diddledan | I guess I need to go into the hoffice | 16:09 |
| diddledan | tomorro** | 16:09 |
| diddledan | my colleague has riled management by doing something he believed they agreed to which they're backpeddling | 16:09 |
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| daftykins | diddledan: =/ are you skiving? | 17:14 |
| diddledan | nah | 17:14 |
| daftykins | just work from home? o0 | 17:14 |
| diddledan | yup | 17:14 |
| daftykins | :O | 17:16 |
| daftykins | soo i've managed to install snow leopard and update to lion on this old late 2007 macbook | 17:16 |
| daftykins | but it still has a disk with bad sectors and a dead battery :D | 17:16 |
| shauno | wouldn't you be tempted to do something about the disk before you worry about putting an OS on it ? | 17:21 |
| daftykins | it's a mates with no money :) | 17:22 |
| daftykins | so i was more seeing what OS would go on to start to deem whether he could sell it for much | 17:22 |
| daftykins | as it goes, Lion is the newest this one can run | 17:22 |
| daftykins | you can get replacement batteries for £16 O_O | 17:26 |
| daftykins | ebay specials mind, so not legit i'm sure | 17:26 |
| brobostigon | question, why would you be able to see a device on the same network, using bonjour and ssh, but not dlna? | 18:27 |
| ali1234 | because dlna is a very poorly specified "standard" | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | it is not unusual that devices can't see each other with it | 18:28 |
| brobostigon | thats doesnt answer the question sadly. | 18:28 |
| brobostigon | it can see my dlna anables tv. | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | bonjour is 100% apple. things either work with apple's implementation, or nobody cares | 18:29 |
| brobostigon | it works, i can ssh to it, using a bonjour addr. | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | dlna however is made by a consortium of different companies, one of which is microsoft | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | as a result, there are a million different interpretations of the spec, all subtly incompatible with each other | 18:30 |
| ali1234 | dlna is also known as upnp | 18:30 |
| ali1234 | it is somewhat like microsoft's other networking standard: samba/cifs/whatever you call it | 18:31 |
| brobostigon | i knew all this, it still doesnt answer my question, or bode a path to a solution. | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | in that half the time half your computers can't see the other half for no paticular reason | 18:31 |
| directhex | brobostigon, how are you attempting to "see" the device with dlna? | 18:32 |
| ali1234 | well, okay, to start with, which two dlna devices are you trying to make communicate? | 18:32 |
| brobostigon | directhex: using various android playback apps, to listen to downloaded eps of hitchhikers. | 18:33 |
| directhex | brobostigon, and which dlna server are you running? | 18:33 |
| brobostigon | directhex: minidlna on debian testing. | 18:33 |
| ali1234 | so the best upnp/dnla client for android is skifta. try that one if you haven't | 18:33 |
| ali1234 | i think that's what it's called, let me check | 18:33 |
| ali1234 | yeah that's it | 18:34 |
| ali1234 | if that doesn't work you should try a different server. rigel is supposed to be the most compatible | 18:35 |
| brobostigon | i just dont know how to troubleshoot it, as it has worked upto this point, so i dont know where to proceed from. | 18:35 |
| ali1234 | so it worked before? | 18:36 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 18:36 |
| ali1234 | well, that's different then | 18:36 |
| brobostigon | hence i dont know how to troubleshoot it, as to why it is not working, | 18:36 |
| brobostigon | hence me asking what i did. | 18:37 |
| directhex | have you tried turning it off and on again? | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | did you update anything? | 18:37 |
| brobostigon | directhex: devide or sw or both? | 18:37 |
| brobostigon | device* | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | there are actually three pieces of software involved with playing media from a upnp media server | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | the server itself, the media player, and the media controller | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | the controller finds the server using broadcast addresses, then it gets the media listings and sends one to the media player, which streams it on http using a normal connection | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | step one is probably tcpdump on the server and see if there is multicast activity | 18:42 |
| brobostigon | ie, mdns ? | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | no | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | upnp discovery packets | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | look for udp port 1900 | 18:46 |
| ali1234 | on "weird" IP addresses | 18:46 |
| ali1234 | 239.*.*.* i think | 18:46 |
| brobostigon | ok, i shall have to work out how to filter to just that port. | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | tcpdump -n -i eth0 udp port 1900 | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | when i start skifta on my android ablet i see a bunch of traffic on that on my desktop, but i don't have any upnp servers at the moment | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | although i do see my router advertising it's port forwarding in response | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | add "-A" to see contents of the packets | 18:52 |
| brobostigon | yep. shows loads of entries, from my android device when i fire up said sw. | 18:53 |
| ali1234 | do you see a response from miniupnp? | 18:53 |
| ali1234 | you *should* do... | 18:53 |
| lazarus_ | i've been looking to optimise some code that i put together since i know there are like 100 ways to write shell scripts http://pastebin.com/1wsBDd8d | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | use rsync | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | !rsync | 19:21 |
| lubotu3 | rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync | 19:21 |
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