[00:09] omg: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/16/apple-google-settlement/ [00:11] aah it's not as important as I thought it was after reading it [00:12] can't we just get along? [00:17] only as long as you don't make your sheet of glass flat and rectangular [00:20] virgin media have netflix [00:20] that's new [00:20] O_O [00:20] and they have their tivo thingy [00:20] as in, an app on their set top box? [00:20] yeah [00:21] sky on the other hand are trying to make a new walled garden of their own [00:21] indeed, i saw it had updated on the boss' box [00:21] i got asked to take a look at it one day haha, as no channels were working [00:21] the ol' power cord trick did it [00:24] one of my lnb feeds is broken on my sky setup :-( [00:24] I need to call sky to come over to fix it [00:24] it's probably cheaper just to buy a new LNB and slap it on :> [00:35] http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/16/imessages-issue-lawsuit/ [00:35] lol [00:35] yeah I saw that [00:35] bit of a stupid situation apple landed themselves in with that [00:37] I guess they thought once someone had an iphone they wouldn't ever want to go elsewhere [00:38] it's just messups in layers [00:38] shauno, like the third reich? [00:39] eg, the address book lets you put in phone numbers as different types .. phone, office, etc. one of htem is 'iphone' [00:39] if you put in a number as an iphone number, when it's not going to an iphone, you'll cause exactly the same situation [00:39] hah [00:40] and then there's imessage taking way too long to timeout on delivering it as an imessage, which has to time out on your side & apple's (before it gives up and resends as sms) [00:40] hey guys [00:40] https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxxd6kokb2xwfcx/IMG_20140516_165146.jpg [00:40] i just can't giggle enough at those prices [00:41] you've never priced out a xeon workstation from another vendor then? [00:41] last time I tried, there was surprisingly little difference between dell & apple [00:42] i haven't no [00:42] the dual firepro amd GPU cards is prolly a large percentage of that [00:43] it's amazing how much difference (price-wise) the xeon makes :/ (what actual difference it makes, I have no idea .. I have no xeons recent enough to compare) [00:44] I don't get the difference between workstation class gpu and gaming gpu is [00:45] someone i know from another channel was actually speccing up a cheap upgrade [00:45] instead of an i5, she picked some Xeon 2354 or similar, it seems to perform as well as an i7-4770K but for £200 [00:46] the one in the "entry level" mac pro is a $600 processor :/ [00:48] exchange rate is almost 1.7:1 right now :O [00:49] the gpus are weird though. it's not two running in parallel. only one of them actually has any influence on the display [00:49] the other one is entirely deadweight unless you have one of very few loads that use it for computation rather than graphics [00:51] https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtorpc6mk0qdc7t/IMG_20140519_014933.jpg [00:51] have an olive [00:52] lol, nice [00:53] I think all in all the price isn't the bizarre part. it's trying to put a xeon workstation in a small form-factor (and people who'll pay the extra grand without actually requiring a workstation) [00:56] I've completely messed my sleep pattern up :/ antibiotics kick me in the pants [00:59] shauno, welcome to nocturnal [00:59] shauno: you were pretty quirky before no? doesn't that mean you're waking up normally for a 9-5 now? :D [01:00] I've always been "quirky" but napping 2-10pm took it to a whole new level [01:02] wow. [01:03] i just got linked to this [01:03] https://imgur.com/gallery/0K2iD [01:03] the postman pat one omg [01:03] omg. bbc three right now - tyger the older boy from "outnumbered" - his dad happens to be britain's number one male porn start [01:03] star* [01:09] I had no idea they were ranked [01:15] I think this'll make me "officially old", but there's actually some pretty decent stuff on radio4 [01:34] hm, youtube buying Twitch doesn't sound like it'll end well for anyone [01:35] oh deary me [01:35] confirmed happening? [01:38] not confirmed yet, that I know of [01:53] oh guys this is gold [01:53] http://jimllpaintit.tumblr.com/ [01:59] anyone got a link for the new game of thrones? [02:01] that's not appropriate for this channel or network [02:08] soz dad [02:09] lawl so funny [02:09] took you 7 minutes to come up with that [02:12] your mum said stop being cheeky to your new dad [02:12] you should be asleep it's a school night [02:15] daftykins, shut up and find me a link [02:15] leave. [02:17] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkL1K3rLPWw [02:18] ooh, I forgot it's GoT night. that'll mean there's another episode of Cosmos up [02:21] i really wanna watch it :( [02:22] then quit wasting your time in the wrong place [02:24] shauno: http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/137320543/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/tumblr_mixypynaCh1s6ylubo1_1280.jpg [02:25] henry vs dyson. that's difficult [02:25] wait, tyson on a dyson? [02:25] apparently it's goldie [02:25] whom i do not know [02:26] ow [02:26] hes a drum and bass producer. dafty the next link had better be got or im gonna have to regulate you [02:27] daftykins* [02:27] that was ace [02:27] i thought the degenerate drink of choice was white lightning though, what's that stuff 0o [02:30] I get the impression that's what he's going for, but with a less family-friendly name [02:31] IVE FOUND IT [02:31] SCREW YOU daftykins [02:31] i'd prefer you go die in a fire now [02:31] RIGHTUPYOURARSE [02:31] sorry i'm more into the ladies. [02:32] well you just too a length. i hope you enjoyed that. [02:33] im only joking mate, have a good night [02:36] in all seriousness are you <20? [02:38] 17 [02:38] i bossed you though didnt i? [02:42] nope not even a good try [02:42] also you sound like a real chav :( but i'm getting personal now so i shall stop [02:43] a chav? far from it [02:52] daftykins can we make friends [04:36] Morning all [06:05] morning [06:06] morning mr MooDoo [06:07] MooDoo: [06:07] morning [06:07] davmor2: ello === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [06:22] how are you jussi davmor2 [06:24] MooDoo: not bad. still in the "alive" area... :D [06:24] cool [06:46] I'm still stiff and sore :-| [06:47] also feeling a bit paranoid about my nose being a bit stuffy [06:47] was sitting in the back garden yesterday waiting for the bbq to warm up when something wet landed on the edge of my sunglass and in my eye [06:48] --> now wondering what kind of eye pox I get [06:49] Myrtti: Alien spores. [06:49] MartijnVdS: bird flu or something like that has occurred to me [06:50] Myrtti: maybe it was just some insect droppings [06:51] https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p180x540/10341857_10152442119142065_6535201542531891974_n.jpg [06:51] evidence says no [06:52] BBQ grease? [06:53] bird poop [06:54] A drop from a leaky airplane toilet [06:54] and that's supposed to make me feel better than the thought of a bird poop? [06:54] you failed, my friend [06:54] oh you wanted to feel *better* :P [06:54] sorry ;) [06:54] :-P [08:06] morning [08:18] MooDoo: sprinting lots of meetings [08:21] davmor2: boo [08:35] virgin fault this morning [08:35] * Laney wah [08:35] * Laney lag [09:06] Morning all [09:14] morning boys and girls. [09:31] Laney: hm, virgin announced downtime for me on friday. what is all about, i wonder.... [09:33] xnox: gremlins crawling around the cablez [09:33] about three days to crawl from london to nottm [09:33] Laney: that's ok, i have a water sprinkler. oh wait.... [09:34] sounds plausible to me [09:42] feel so grateful that we could [09:43] donated 2.5k to kings a&e few months back and theres people crying over 2 quid [09:43] :D [11:04] Hi everyone .............. [11:30] Myrtti: are you close to Helsinki oslo or stockholm! [11:30] nope :-/ [11:30] jussi: I'm coming! June 11th to Helsinki [11:30] merry old England for me [11:30] czajkowski: woohoo! [11:30] June 12th Stockholm [11:30] and June 10th Oslo [11:31] you had better show your face! :) [11:31] Myrtti: ohh didnt know you're over here now full time [11:36] haz internet [11:37] Laney: congratulations :D [11:37] :P [11:40] How to configure windows user authentication by linux samba ldap centos 6 please guide me [11:42] i configured in centos 5.6 it's working but how to configure centos 6 [11:44] I believe you want to be looking at SSSD [11:44] MooDoo: [11:45] hrmm i have an old macbook of a pals to look at today [11:48] daftykins: dont do it! :P [11:49] itll poison you! :P === JamesTait is now known as Guest38933 [11:49] it's ok i'm immune! [11:49] i have to deal with macs for someone and i already lul at their fair share of problems [11:51] :) [11:51] daftykins: ok then, but use protection...... :P? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:05] jussi: ok, Naked Gun full body you know what now donned [12:09] ... [12:09] daftykins: you scared Moodoo off! :P [12:12] he always was a wee bit squeamish [12:14] lol === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:44] could someone fix my ice hockey video stream ;___; [13:45] Myrtti: done! did my fix work? [13:45] [might take a while for the telepathy to work] [13:45] no :-( [13:45] darn! [13:45] I've paid to see this game on this shoddy stream ;____; [13:47] I just phoned Microsoft to see if they could you - they asked "have you tried rebboting?" [13:47] *rebooting [13:48] ;) [13:48] hello all [13:49] boo! [13:51] popey is now known as popeyjustranamileinfrightcozsomeonewentboo! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === JamesTait is now known as Guest84971 [14:38] Good morning peeps :) [14:49] ditto [14:50] morning [14:50] hi sir [14:50] s [14:50] Some of us are in the tail end of the afternoon [14:51] i hate macs. [14:51] Someone wants me to port an application to one [14:51] they don't give decent reasons as to why they won't boot things :P [14:51] o rly [14:51] It's a Java app [14:51] that's... surely not much work then? [14:52] So technically it should just be a matter of dropping in the Mac binaries for the native libs it uses [14:52] But also have to remove the references to i) The Windows Registry ii) Outlook and iii) The Windows help system [14:52] I feel some dependency injection coming on [14:53] Well, I think I'll just straight out port the help to something less awful [14:53] I mean, it's basically an embedded browser... you'd think the help would be available from within it... [14:54] :D [15:06] alrighty, making some progress with this thing at last === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [16:09] I guess I need to go into the hoffice [16:09] tomorro** [16:09] my colleague has riled management by doing something he believed they agreed to which they're backpeddling === JamesTait is now known as Guest22957 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:14] diddledan: =/ are you skiving? [17:14] nah [17:14] just work from home? o0 [17:14] yup [17:16] :O [17:16] soo i've managed to install snow leopard and update to lion on this old late 2007 macbook [17:16] but it still has a disk with bad sectors and a dead battery :D [17:21] wouldn't you be tempted to do something about the disk before you worry about putting an OS on it ? [17:22] it's a mates with no money :) [17:22] so i was more seeing what OS would go on to start to deem whether he could sell it for much [17:22] as it goes, Lion is the newest this one can run [17:26] you can get replacement batteries for £16 O_O [17:26] ebay specials mind, so not legit i'm sure [18:27] question, why would you be able to see a device on the same network, using bonjour and ssh, but not dlna? [18:28] because dlna is a very poorly specified "standard" [18:28] it is not unusual that devices can't see each other with it [18:28] thats doesnt answer the question sadly. [18:29] it can see my dlna anables tv. [18:29] bonjour is 100% apple. things either work with apple's implementation, or nobody cares [18:29] it works, i can ssh to it, using a bonjour addr. [18:29] dlna however is made by a consortium of different companies, one of which is microsoft [18:30] as a result, there are a million different interpretations of the spec, all subtly incompatible with each other [18:30] dlna is also known as upnp [18:31] it is somewhat like microsoft's other networking standard: samba/cifs/whatever you call it [18:31] i knew all this, it still doesnt answer my question, or bode a path to a solution. [18:31] in that half the time half your computers can't see the other half for no paticular reason [18:32] brobostigon, how are you attempting to "see" the device with dlna? [18:32] well, okay, to start with, which two dlna devices are you trying to make communicate? [18:33] directhex: using various android playback apps, to listen to downloaded eps of hitchhikers. [18:33] brobostigon, and which dlna server are you running? [18:33] directhex: minidlna on debian testing. [18:33] so the best upnp/dnla client for android is skifta. try that one if you haven't [18:33] i think that's what it's called, let me check [18:34] yeah that's it [18:35] if that doesn't work you should try a different server. rigel is supposed to be the most compatible [18:35] i just dont know how to troubleshoot it, as it has worked upto this point, so i dont know where to proceed from. [18:36] so it worked before? [18:36] yes. [18:36] well, that's different then [18:36] hence i dont know how to troubleshoot it, as to why it is not working, [18:37] hence me asking what i did. [18:37] have you tried turning it off and on again? [18:37] did you update anything? [18:37] directhex: devide or sw or both? [18:37] device* [18:38] there are actually three pieces of software involved with playing media from a upnp media server [18:38] the server itself, the media player, and the media controller [18:40] the controller finds the server using broadcast addresses, then it gets the media listings and sends one to the media player, which streams it on http using a normal connection [18:42] step one is probably tcpdump on the server and see if there is multicast activity [18:45] ie, mdns ? [18:45] no [18:45] upnp discovery packets [18:46] look for udp port 1900 [18:46] on "weird" IP addresses [18:46] 239.*.*.* i think [18:48] ok, i shall have to work out how to filter to just that port. [18:48] tcpdump -n -i eth0 udp port 1900 [18:49] when i start skifta on my android ablet i see a bunch of traffic on that on my desktop, but i don't have any upnp servers at the moment [18:50] although i do see my router advertising it's port forwarding in response [18:52] add "-A" to see contents of the packets [18:53] yep. shows loads of entries, from my android device when i fire up said sw. [18:53] do you see a response from miniupnp? [18:53] you *should* do... [19:20] i've been looking to optimise some code that i put together since i know there are like 100 ways to write shell scripts http://pastebin.com/1wsBDd8d [19:21] use rsync [19:21] !rsync [19:21] rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync === JamesTait is now known as Guest43084 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte