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| AskUbuntu | Juju and no default VPC on AWS | http://askubuntu.com/q/469473 | 06:40 |
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| AskUbuntu | juju deployment error on manually provisioned machine | http://askubuntu.com/q/469618 | 13:58 |
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| AskUbuntu | Glance and ceph hook-failed "ceph-relation chaged" | http://askubuntu.com/q/469661 | 15:02 |
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| gnuoy | So, adding structure to amulet tests for charms. | 15:38 |
| gnuoy | I started out and ended up with something that looks a lot like nose I guess | 15:39 |
| gnuoy | so maybe I should in fact be using that | 15:39 |
| mattyw | marcoceppi, are you on reddit? | 15:39 |
| marcoceppi | mattyw: I am, I saw your email | 15:40 |
| marcoceppi | mattyw: my only concern is, why not post to r/ubuntu or other established communities? | 15:40 |
| mattyw | marcoceppi, I guess there's no reason - I just thought I'd start it and see what happened | 15:41 |
| marcoceppi | I mean, it's cool don't get me wrong | 15:41 |
| marcoceppi | not sure if we're /that/ big yet | 15:41 |
| marcoceppi | so we should be cross posting still to larger communities that would be interested in juju | 15:42 |
| mattyw | that totally makes sense | 15:44 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/+activereviews | 15:45 |
| jamespage | woser | 15:45 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, I can grab those jacken ones in the morning for a start | 15:47 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, just wondering how many of those should target /next instead of stable | 15:48 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, the top 4 might be suitable for stable but the others aren't bug fixes so I don't think they're eligible ? | 15:49 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, not sure your top4 are the same as mine | 15:50 |
| gnuoy | jamespage, on reflection just the louis-bouchard ones look like fixes I think | 15:51 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, I think tribaals are as well but they sweep alot of charm-helpers in | 15:51 |
| gnuoy | ah, ok. I thought they were housekeeping | 15:51 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, he fixed up apt local caching and block device detection | 15:52 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, this is where stable is tricky | 15:52 |
| jamespage | we really need to branch charm-helpers on release of the charms | 15:52 |
| jamespage | and then backport selected fixes | 15:52 |
| gnuoy | yeah | 15:52 |
| jamespage | gnuoy, I added a "publish" target to the makefiles in most openstack charms btw | 15:55 |
| jamespage | it pushes to precise and trusty branches | 15:55 |
| gnuoy | ah, good to know. | 15:56 |
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| coreycb | gnuoy, jamespage, beisner: I think we would benefit a lot if we find a way to deploy an environment once with amulet, and run several individual tests on that env where, if one test fails the rest will continue to run. | 16:52 |
| coreycb | I'm not sure amulet is designed to do that though. it looks to be designed to run one test per file, and raise a condition on failure. e.g. amulet.raise_status(amulet.FAIL, ...) | 16:53 |
| lazyPower | coreycb: Kind of. Amulet is great at deploying a topology and making assertions about whats transmitted over the wire, and validating system assertions (Eg: did this vhost get deployed, is this mounted, is a service responding when i query this port) | 16:59 |
| lazyPower | coreycb: there's a pattern to build a test suite in a single file per topology - its all about method encapsulation. cory_fu wrote a great test template that exhibits that in the Apache Allura charm. | 17:00 |
| lazyPower | coreycb: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~johnsca/charms/precise/apache-allura/refactoring-with-tests/view/head:/tests/101-deploy.py | 17:01 |
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| coreycb | lazyPower, ok yeah that looks nice but I'm not sure it continues to execute all the tests if one fails | 17:07 |
| lazyPower | coreycb: it will halt if you specify --fail-fast on the command line, otherwise it continues as expected in nose-test style. | 17:08 |
| lazyPower | and --set-e may also be used to halt on first failure | 17:08 |
| coreycb | lazyPower, hmm, even if amulet.raise_status(amulet.FAIL, ..) is called? | 17:08 |
| lazyPower | correct. that should print to stderr and continue executing unless teh default behavior has been changed since the 1.3 series. | 17:08 |
| coreycb | lazyPower, awesome sauce | 17:09 |
| coreycb | lazyPower, thanks, that's great | 17:09 |
| lazyPower | np, happy to help | 17:10 |
| sebas5384 | hey lazyPower! O/ | 17:25 |
| lazyPower | o/ sebas5384 | 17:25 |
| lazyPower | how goes the vagrant journey? | 17:25 |
| sebas5384 | fine! but I didn't continue using the juju trusty box | 17:26 |
| sebas5384 | that error is still happening for me :( | 17:26 |
| lazyPower | about cloning a running container? | 17:26 |
| sebas5384 | but anyways i have the other one hehe | 17:26 |
| sebas5384 | yep | 17:26 |
| lazyPower | Interesting... I'm otherwise preoccupied with other items in my queue but I'll make sure I circle back to that before the end of the week. I'd like to compare notes between what i've done and what you've done | 17:27 |
| sebas5384 | sure!! :) | 17:27 |
| lazyPower | sebas5384: yeah our Precise box is pretty solid though - i use it every day | 17:27 |
| sebas5384 | ping me :) | 17:27 |
| lazyPower | Sure thing :) | 17:28 |
| sebas5384 | yeah probably i should use it (the precise) | 17:28 |
| sebas5384 | oh! something that i'm doing, deploying openstack with juju all-in-one, but i was wondering if you have some neat bundle that I can use to use with juju after | 17:29 |
| lazyPower | There's a few openstack bundles in the charm store you can model off of | 17:29 |
| sebas5384 | i planning to change the --to of the nova-compute-node to 0 | 17:29 |
| lazyPower | bundle:~makyo/openstack/2/openstack is the one i use for demo deployments. | 17:30 |
| sebas5384 | oohh great lazyPower! thanks | 17:30 |
| sebas5384 | i will give it a look | 17:30 |
| lazyPower | sebas5384: make sure you pass a config option to cinder for the block device, otherwise it'll red out on your deployment and cause the bundle to not fully deploy. | 17:31 |
| lazyPower | thats my word of advice :) | 17:31 |
| sebas5384 | hmmm get it, thanks! but i don't know what to set | 17:33 |
| sebas5384 | yet | 17:33 |
| sebas5384 | hehe | 17:33 |
| lazyPower | niedbalski: (rehashing) Greetings. Have a moment to talk about your python_debugger merge for charm helpers? Great! | 17:38 |
| lazyPower | The use case here is to basically eliminate breaking your install hook to debug that first leg of the charm run, right? | 17:38 |
| niedbalski_ | lazyPower, right. Actually i'm using that simple helper for jumping into a trace remotely without breaking the install hook | 17:40 |
| niedbalski_ | also could be a decorator @break, or something like that. | 17:40 |
| lazyPower | niedbalski: interesting. So it spins up a remote debugger, what about in the instance of public clouds where that port 12345 isn't open by default? | 17:41 |
| lazyPower | Ah wait, i see it imports open_port | 17:41 |
| niedbalski_ | yep, it first opens the public port, then register a close_port callback @atexit | 17:42 |
| lazyPower | interesting. Let me import this and give it a run - what would i need to execute on my workstation to connect? Is this provided by pdb out of the box or do i need a supporting package? | 17:42 |
| niedbalski_ | should works out of the box | 17:42 |
| lazyPower | niedbalski: pdb hostname:port? | 17:43 |
| niedbalski_ | lazyPower, telnet, netcat also works | 17:43 |
| lazyPower | OH! I don't even need to invoke a debugger, this spins up a server for any TCP capable consumer? | 17:44 |
| niedbalski_ | lazyPower, yep. In fact, i'm using emacs TcpClient | 17:45 |
| lazyPower | this sounds pretty spiffy | 17:46 |
| mbruzek | niedbalski_, wow | 17:46 |
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| lazyPower | niedbalski: dude, this is *awesome* | 18:13 |
| niedbalski_ | lazyPower, cool. I would like to integrate that on my soon-to-be-released emacs charms minor mode | 18:26 |
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| lazyPower | niedbalski: I'm going to +1 this | 18:34 |
| lazyPower | niedbalski: it shifts you a bit lower in the queue, but i'll make it a point to circle back to this if nobody has gotten to it by end of week | 18:36 |
| lazyPower | mbruzek: https://code.launchpad.net/~niedbalski/charm-helpers/python-set_trace/+merge/217956 <-- LGTM. Its got a marco assignee, so depending on if you want to cowboy this or not :) | 18:37 |
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| mbruzek | Thanks lazyPower I am in the middle of a review right now, but I will add that to my list. | 18:40 |
| niedbalski_ | mbruzek, :] | 18:40 |
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| mbruzek | niedbalski_, What is the difference between pdb and ipdb? | 18:41 |
| mbruzek | nevermind, google found it | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | mbruzek: yea, ipython ftw (although I like bpython but there's no bpdb | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | ) | 18:42 |
| mbruzek | Thanks rick_h_ | 18:43 |
| mbruzek | niedbalski_, This pdb is great because it does not need a specific debugger to attach. A generic TCP client will do! Impressive. | 18:44 |
| * mbruzek has only used ipdb before, so was not sure. | 18:51 | |
| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: Hey. Is the charm-helper-sh package just for Precise? I can't find it from my | 18:54 |
| mrjazzcat | machine :) | 18:54 |
| marcoceppi | mrjazzcat: yes, it's only precise, it's been obseleted for lp:charm-helpers instead | 18:55 |
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| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: cool thanks. But, that means there must be a Trusty version of the Wordpress charm, as it relies on that package | 18:56 |
| marcoceppi | mrjazzcat: the latest version of the charm no longer relies on that, the pieces it did need were moved inside the charm | 18:56 |
| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: ok, thanks. I just have to go find that version. | 18:57 |
| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: strange housekeeping. It looks like this is the trusty WP code: lp:~justin-fathomdb/charms/trusty/wordpress/trunk | 19:01 |
| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: sorry, I'm wrong. That's the same version. Arg. Do you know where the Trusty WP charm source is? Sorry to be a dork :) | 19:05 |
| AskUbuntu | Juju bootstraping gomaasapi timestamp error | http://askubuntu.com/q/469778 | 19:06 |
| marcoceppi | mrjazzcat: well, it's not been moved to trusty yet, so there might still be a few broken things | 19:06 |
| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: ah, that's why I can't find it! OK, if it's not released, I'll live with what I have. | 19:07 |
| marcoceppi | mrjazzcat: file bugs when you get errors! | 19:07 |
| mrjazzcat | marcoceppi: ok, will do. | 19:07 |
| AskUbuntu | JUJU MAAS Bootstrap all on VM | http://askubuntu.com/q/469810 | 20:20 |
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| AskUbuntu | Can't Deploy Wordpress | http://askubuntu.com/q/469848 | 22:22 |
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