[00:15] <rww> i still don't know what the t-word is ;(
[01:12] <bazhang> Tchulhu
[01:28] <Flannel> Why are we trolling the -ops list now?
[01:29] <rww> because all staffers are trolls
[01:42] <elky> TIL that putting the internet down to finish paid work is "not constructive"
[01:43] <phunyguy> ^ indeed
[07:58] <Pricey> phunyguy: elky: I was referring to "if I told you that, it would defeat the purpose."
[07:59] <Pricey> rww: Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they are a troll, aggressive, rude, etc. etc. etc.
[07:59] <Pricey> It just means they don't agree with you.
[10:01] <DJones> AH well, bye bye Jono Bacon
[10:01] <DJones> http://www.jonobacon.org/2014/05/19/goodbye-canonical-hello-xprize/
[10:42] <IdleOne> Good for him :)
[13:13] <Pricey> valorie: Have you ever heard the statement "You must be taking the piss?!" ?
[13:15] <Pricey> It being pretty close to "You're taking the mickey", "You're taking the proverbial" etc. etc.
[13:16] <Pricey> Oh wow, we have a wikipedia article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_piss
[13:16] <elky> you still get surprised at what wikipedia has articles for?
[13:17] <Pricey> elky: I didn't think they'd have an article on such a specific phrase and it's origins.
[13:45] <h00k> woah, jono
[13:45] <h00k> I missed this yesterday
[14:41] <IdleOne> !vietnam
[14:42] <IdleOne> meh
[14:44] <IdleOne> !vietnam
[14:44] <Pricey> !-vietnam
[14:44] <IdleOne> !vietnam
[14:44] <IdleOne> fixed it
[14:44] <Pricey> Sneaky.
[14:44] <IdleOne> I try
[15:18] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu chenqisu123 <chenqisu123> goodnight gays
[16:23] <bazhang> he installed ubuntu in less than five seconds
[16:23] <bazhang> impressive
[16:48] <jbroome> pew pew pew
[17:08] <k1l> wait, now its a corrupted iso? i thought he checked that already
[17:09] <bazhang> I thought it was installed inside gentoo
[17:09] <bazhang> his description of grub does not match that of ubuntu
[17:15] <Jordan_U> bazhang: In what way?
 Jordan_U: Oh ! I thought custom.cfg would have to be sourced by grub.cfg somewhat
[17:20] <Jordan_U> bazhang: And custom.cfg is sourced by their grub.cfg, as it would be in Ubuntu (though their grub.cfg is from Gentoo, from whose grub install the Ubuntu iso is being booted).
[17:20] <bazhang> haha
[17:21] <bazhang> and he wants help using reaver/aircrack
[17:21] <k1l> he told about his customers when entering the channel
[17:21] <Jordan_U> No, they don't.
[17:22] <k1l> now he talks about he got no other usb-drive in his bedroom and hacking wifi etc.?
[17:22] <Pici> someone who does pentesting for a living should know whether it is illegal or not.
[17:25] <Pici> I don't remember the last time I saw a VCD.
[17:25] <Pici> 1998 or something
[17:25] <bazhang> very common in 3rd world
[17:27] <Jordan_U> bazhang: Interesting. For use with VCD playing hardware or general purpose computers?
[17:27] <bazhang> Jordan_U, that would be cd/dvd players
[17:28] <bazhang> nightmare to rip
 Is there Ubunter Server channel ?
[17:29] <Pici> hm?
[17:29] <bazhang> super bad news
[17:51] <bazhang> !info mate-desktop
[17:51] <bazhang> is that not the mate of whatever derivative uses mate
[18:32] <k1l> fyi, the mute on seawolf_ will stay since he does not seem to have any interest to take part in the technical ubuntu support at all.
[18:34] <k1l> if someone got a different opinion feel free to clear that with him and take the responsibility of him not spoiling #ubuntu with his offtopic.
[18:47] <tsimpson> quiets should be temporary, if you feel they deserve to be banned and/or removed then you should do that
[19:01] <rww> Pricey: I'm aware of this :P
[19:04] <rww> !jono-#ubuntu-offtopic
[19:04] <rww> !forget jono-#ubuntu-offtopic
[19:04] <rww> !jono
[19:05] <IdleOne> that needs to be reworked in my opinion
[19:05] <IdleOne> I believe the best person to do that would be rww.
[19:05] <rww> it said "former", which was actually accurate, so it needed to go
[19:22] <rww> ubottu: tell Seawolf_ about drink-#ubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <rww> 19:34:42 <rww> @ignore Seawolf_ 100000
[19:34] <rww> 19:34:43 <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[21:15] <RepentOrPerish> yes indeed god does kill and he will you and send you to hell if you dont repent
[21:16] <RepentOrPerish> !ops | yes indeed god does kill and he will you and send you to hell if you dont repent
[21:17] <IdleOne> RepentOrPerish: Could you please stop now
[21:17] <RepentOrPerish> LjL: yes indeed god does kill and he will you and send you to hell if you dont repent
[21:17] <RepentOrPerish> IdleOne: unless you repent you will perish
[21:17] <LjL> i'm serious about what i said in #kubuntu - are you guys QUITE sure that raindog what your designated victim?
[21:17] <LjL> because i rather think it was the above hfsplus, and that other guy had done nothing
[21:17] <IdleOne> LjL: that may have been a mistab. I'll look
[21:17] <LjL> may, eh
[21:18] <RepentOrPerish> hello IdleOne
[21:19] <IdleOne> RepentOrPerish: Anything I can help you with?
[21:19] <RepentOrPerish> ban me
[21:21] <IdleOne> I would prefer you just left on your own
[21:21] <RepentOrPerish> ok
[21:21] <RepentOrPerish> bye
[21:21] <IdleOne> have a nice day
[21:27] <mikey85> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/20/%23ubuntu.txt
[21:27] <mikey85> look at that log
[21:27] <mikey85> someone get me unbanned on the ubuntu
[21:27] <mikey85> I was accused wrongly
[21:27] <mikey85> someone made a nick of me in there
[21:27] <mikey85> only it is mikey85__
[21:27] <mikey85> and I was banned by ikonia because of that
[21:28] <mikey85> she told me I was never allowed in that room and she had banned all my nicks and ip
[21:28] <mikey85> even after I told her it wasn't me who cussed
[21:29] <ikonia> look mikey85 stop messing around
[21:29] <ikonia> you where muted before, you evaded that mute to come in talking about supybots
[21:29] <ikonia> you then got into a situation where multiple people where abused with bad language, I've explained to you at the last mute how to behave in #ubuntu
[21:30] <mikey85> [21:30] <mikey85> see?
[21:30] <mikey85> look on the log
[21:30] <ikonia> I do see that
[21:30] <mikey85> that was andrex
[21:30] <mikey85> I'm not andrex
[21:30] <ikonia> I also see you - you, an identfied user, switching to other users such as slayride
[21:30] <ikonia> and then using slayride in #ubuntu
[21:30] <ikonia> it all appears to be "you"
[21:31] <mikey85> yes, slayride was me
[21:31] <mikey85> but the that other guy wasn't
[21:31] <ikonia> so as I said, I'd rather stop messing around playing silly games and just request you find another channel
[21:31] <mikey85> look at the name
[21:31] <mikey85> it says mikey85__
[21:31] <ikonia> even without this last issue, you seem unable to communicate in the channel,
[21:31] <mikey85> not mikey85
[21:31] <ikonia> that's a nickname - you use different nicknames
[21:31] <mikey85> I have 2 nick names
[21:32] <mikey85> one for my bot room
[21:32] <mikey85> one for my bot on my channel
[21:32] <ikonia> ok,
[21:32] <mikey85> and this one
[21:32] <mikey85> that's all
[21:32] <ikonia> so again I believe you
[21:32] <ikonia> but even before this issue you appear to struggle to communicate in line with the channels
[21:33] <mikey85> ikonia, should I be judged wrongly? Do you really need to rid me on this server?
[21:33] <mikey85> Am I that bad of a person that I should be judged :(
[21:33] <ikonia> I have no interest in getting rid of you on this server
[21:33] <ikonia> you are free to use any of the other channels on the server
[21:33] <mikey85> but why would I be banned?
[21:33] <mikey85> for what purpose?
[21:34] <mikey85> everyone has seen the log
[21:34] <ikonia> you where already banned/muted
[21:34] <mikey85> I went in unknowingly with a question
[21:34] <ikonia> you evaded that ban/mute and tried to use the account slayride also
[21:34] <mikey85> how did I evade?
[21:34] <mikey85> there is no evasion to an ip ban of a channel
[21:34] <ikonia> mikey85: lets keep it simple
[21:34] <mikey85> ikonia, I want to be unbanned and unmuted
[21:35] <ikonia> I know you do
[21:35] <ikonia> and I did that yesterday, but you again caused a problem, so got re-muted
[21:35] <mikey85> I caused no problem that I am aware of
[21:35] <ikonia> and then again today you evaded the ban and tried to use the nickname slayride to also evade the ban
[21:35] <ikonia> I spoke to you in a reasonable ammount detail about it
[21:35] <ikonia> so I'm not sure how you can be unware of it
[21:36] <mikey85> by people imitating my mikey85 name?
[21:36] <ikonia> no
[21:36] <ikonia> forget that
[21:36] <mikey85> what about their justice?
[21:36] <mikey85> what justice is this?
[21:36] <ikonia> lets say "I belive you" on that
[21:36] <mikey85> ok
[21:36] <ikonia> did, or did I not explain to you how to use #ubuntu the other day, then remove the mute
[21:36] <mikey85> yes you have, and I haven't helped in there since
[21:37] <mikey85> I tried to help people in the beginning
[21:37] <mikey85> I admit that
[21:37] <mikey85> and I admit I was wrong for misusing that kind of help
[21:37] <mikey85> But still, there is no justice in ban/muting me for an error that many have made, I am sure
[21:38] <ikonia> apologies, I don't understand ?
[21:39] <mikey85> can you take me off of ban and mute please? I will only ask Ubuntu help
[21:39] <mikey85> I will not misuse the help of that room by asking help for other things
[21:39] <ikonia> but we spoke about this - I took you off the mute and you carried on
[21:39] <mikey85> carried on with what?
[21:39] <ikonia> your behaviour
[21:39] <mikey85> what behavior?
[21:39] <ikonia> if you hold on for a moment, I'll get it all together to be clearer
[21:39] <mikey85> the only behavior that was terrible was me being impersonated
[21:40] <ikonia> rather than working on previous discusion logs
[21:40] <ikonia> can you hold on for a moment, so I don't sell you short
[21:40] <mikey85> yes
[21:40] <ikonia> thank you
[21:42] <ikonia> ok, so I spoke to you about how to use #ubuntu, after I muted you after a little bit of noise in #ubuntu ?
[21:42] <ikonia> remember that ?
[21:43] <mikey85> yes
[21:43] <ikonia> ok, great
[21:43] <ikonia> I removed the mute then you rejoined #ubuntu correct ?
[21:44] <mikey85> the same day? Also the noise was me helping people with computers like others were doing as well
[21:44] <ikonia> you where not helping
[21:44] <ikonia> that's one of the things we spoke about
[21:44] <mikey85> so if that is noise, then forgive me for helping at all
[21:44] <mikey85> I was helping with computers
[21:44] <ikonia> you explained to me that you had no idea what ubuntu even was, and I clarified you should not help unless you know what you are doing
[21:44] <ikonia> do you remember that ?
[21:45] <mikey85> I understand that. But hear me out please. I helped because people in there needed help with computers and computers are my strong point
[21:45] <mikey85> How then should I plea?
[21:45] <ikonia> please let me finish
[21:45] <mikey85> can I not be unban and forgiven?
[21:45] <mikey85> go ahead
[21:46] <ikonia> so you remember being explained to that as you told me - "I don't even know what ubuntu is" you should not help until you know the answer to a question for certain
[21:46] <ikonia> remember that discussion ?
[21:46] <mikey85> Yes, and I haven't
[21:46] <mikey85> I helped with what I knew
[21:46] <ikonia> ok, thats great
[21:47] <mikey85> if you keep me on ban, that is a burden that I shouldn't have to bear. How then can I receive help on Ubuntu?
[21:47] <ikonia> however you did start pm'ing me and from what I can gather other users complaining about people such as daftykins
[21:47] <ikonia> saying he couldn't help, he was rubbish, and if he could help there would be no people asking for help in the channel
[21:48] <mikey85> Was I incorrect? He tried to help on an area he knew nothing about
[21:48] <ikonia> so I asked you not to cause a problem with bad help in the channel AND explained what you need to do to use the channel, and you started randomly pm'ing people in the channel calling other people names
[21:48] <mikey85> He was helping on a partdisk
[21:49] <mikey85> ikonia this is too much of a burden for me
[21:49] <ikonia> I can appreciate that
[21:49] <mikey85> How can I use the channel?
[21:49] <ikonia> apologies if I'm dragging it out, I'm just trying to be clear
[21:49] <ikonia> to use the channel, you need to stop doing the opposite if what you are doing
[21:50] <mikey85> ok, but if I pm you, that is my own thing. I wont pm you from the channel though
[21:50] <mikey85> If I'm not in there, I shouldn't be banned if I just want to speak to you :)
[21:50] <ikonia> stop helping / trying to help with things you know nothing about (you'll get better as you understand more) stop making offtopic comments/discussion in the channel, stop pm'ing users with random insults, listen to the ops when they tell you to do something (or other members of the channel) - don't evade mutes, don't do things you've already been told not to do
[21:51] <mikey85> ikonia I can feel some tention here
[21:51] <ikonia> after I patiently went through this with you - I find you are still causing a problem with rww in pm trying to evade mutes/get around them
[21:51] <ikonia> there is zero tension, I assure you
[21:51] <mikey85> no, there is
[21:51] <mikey85> I am not pming anyone
[21:51] <mikey85> How do I evade a mute? hmmm?
[21:52] <mikey85> ikonia, I appreciate you flirting and all but........ I was not evading
[21:53] <IdleOne> I think you are done here now
[21:54] <mikey85> idleone I feel though that I do need a bit of justice :(
[21:54] <mikey85> was justice served :(
[21:55] <IdleOne> yes, you are not going to be unbanned at this time. come back in a week or so when you have had time to think about how your actions effect the users of the channel.
[21:55] <mikey85> ikonia was suppose to have dinner with me :(
[21:55] <IdleOne> until then please leave this channel and stop harassing us
[21:55] <mikey85> I think she's mad because we didn't eat steak at the steakhouse :(
[21:56] <mikey85> who am i harassing, my dear friend?
[21:56] <mikey85> I just watched justice turn in the hands of the wrong doings
[21:56] <IdleOne> right now you are harassing ikonia with silliness about imaginary dinners
[21:57] <mikey85> lol, awwww but she likes the steakhouse :(
[21:57] <IdleOne> justice has been served in favor of the users of #ubuntu who want to use the channel properly
[21:57] <mikey85> well, I can see you waste no time
[21:57] <IdleOne> you clearly just want to mess around.
[21:57] <IdleOne> Please leave.
[21:57] <mikey85> well, after justice being served, I feel I should
[21:58] <mikey85> just like you served justice wrongly, so shall I
[21:58] <mikey85> let there be justice
[21:58] <mikey85> as for you ikonia, you really don't beat around the bush. I think she likes me, that's why she does this
[21:59] <mikey85> How else would I be wronged?
[21:59] <mikey85> ;)
[22:02] <IdleOne> ikonia: hope you were done. I saw no positive outcome.
[22:20] <ikonia> apologies, something important/personal came up
[22:20] <ikonia> didn't mean to leave him dangling
[22:21] <IdleOne> no worries. You took plenty of time to clearly explain.
[22:21] <IdleOne> he had no intention of being anything but a waste of time
[22:21] <ikonia> it wasn't a good explination
[22:21] <ikonia> but I also feel it wasn't honest,
[22:22] <ikonia> based on what's just happened in -server while I was away I suspect this user is trying to be a problem, rather than the accidents/that are happening, but I appreciate it's not popular at the moment to say that
[22:23] <ikonia> apologies thought, didn't mean to quit half way through trying to explain, however it was important, I wouldn't just walk away intentionally
[22:24] <IdleOne> I don't think you quit half way through.
[22:24] <ikonia> well, I did, I had to step away
[22:24] <IdleOne> the explanation for why he was banned was clear.
[22:24] <IdleOne> and then they took it to -server to continue being a problem
[22:25] <Unit193> (And -devel.)
[22:25] <ikonia> yes, but at the time I wasn't %100 sure it wasn't just a users missunderstanding the previous conversation/explaination of the rules,
[22:25] <ikonia> (I'm confident of it not being a missunderstanding now)
[22:25] <IdleOne> I don't see why we should be expected to spend our time explaining things to people who obviously have no intention to be productive
[22:26] <ikonia> yes, but I didn't know at the time if it was a genuine "I don't get it/didn't know" rather than "I know what I'm doing and playing dumb"
[22:26] <ikonia> it was the complains from people in pm from him that where people I trust that made me seriously doubt it,
[22:27] <ikonia> either way, I think it's been proven now he knows what he's doing,
[22:27] <IdleOne> yup
[22:28] <ikonia> for the record I've not banned him from any other channel or spoke to him outside of #ubuntu so I don't know why he's suggesting I'm trying to get him banned from every other channel (whatever that range is)
[22:28] <ikonia> beyond trying to be a problem
[22:29] <hggdh> ikonia: as far as I can see, your tried to reason. Also, as far as I can see the user was not really honest
[22:29] <ikonia> hggdh: that doesn't seem to matter any more
[22:29] <hggdh> ikonia: it does, for me.
[22:30] <ikonia> well, it does for me,
[22:31] <ikonia> good night
[22:31] <hggdh> although people can always complain and nit-pick, of course. But that is part of the game, I guess.
[22:31] <ikonia> I don't find it part of game
[22:31] <ikonia> but must dash, good night
[22:31] <IdleOne> night