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moosebaghi there. Please can anyone suggest why I can get Audacity to record my SB0100's line input, but I can't get this input into Jack?12:35
moosebagsome days i wish i'd never abandoned microsoft products13:16
zequenceYou're probably using alsa or pulseaudio with audacity13:38
zequencemoosebag: If Audacity works with your sound card, you are doing something wrong with jack13:38
zequencemoosebag: How have you determined that jack does not work?13:38
zequencemoosebag: Which application are you trying to use with it?13:39
moosebaghi again zequence. yes it could well all be my own stupidity :) IIRC, I should select Line In as a record source, and it should appear at the "capture" stereo pair on the left hand side of Jack's patchbay. Am I wrong?13:52
zequencemoosebag: I thought you said you saw two capture ports in your jack connections?13:53
moosebagyes, that's the stereo pair of capture sources13:53
zequenceSo, what are you connecting those to?13:53
moosebagAll I want to achieve is to get Line In audio registering on a meterbridge window13:53
moosebagthen i know it will be available for Ardour13:54
moosebagI've tried connecting the capture port pair to meterbridge, no luck so far.13:54
zequenceLet me try meterbridge13:54
moosebagthankyou13:54
zequencemoosebag: I would just try  ardour though.13:55
moosebagand a SB0100 if you have one! :)13:55
moosebagArdour was recording the mic input, but I want it to record Line In because I don't want an unnecessary gain stage in the audio chain.13:55
moosebagthanks for your interest; I'm at work so forgive any delays replying :)13:57
zequencemoosebag: meterbridge works, but it doesn't move easily for me (the VU mode).13:59
zequencemoosebag: I need a very high input volume for that13:59
moosebagoh! are you sure it's not crosstalk getting through? Meterbridge can be (used to be) invoked by command line to give different meter types, maybe there's a more sensitive one? PPM for example...14:00
zequencemoosebag: I connected the pulseaudio jack sink to it, and put a youtube video on with maximum volume14:01
moosebagok thanks14:01
zequenceThe vu meter would only go to half14:01
moosebaghmmmm. what soundcard do you have?14:01
zequenceI wasn't using a sound card at all right now14:02
zequenceJust pulseaudio connected to jack, and from there to the vu14:02
moosebagoh ok. hmm14:02
zequenceWhen you make pulseaudio use jack as the output, it becomes a jack client14:02
moosebagok. well i struggle to understand how alsa and/or pulseaudio are supposed to interact with Jack14:03
zequence!proaudio14:03
ubottuFor information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro14:03
zequencepulseaudio uses alsa, as does jack14:03
zequencethe drivers are actually alsa drivers14:03
moosebagah the plot thickens!14:03
moosebagok well i'll keep trying things when I get home, maybe see you here again, in any case I'll write up what eventually works. thanks all14:04
zequencejack presents the card more as it is, the chip itself14:04
moosebagok let's hope so. haven't tried the jack sink/source stuff yet, that's new to me since I last used Jack14:05
zequencepulseaudio creates inputs and outputs as stereo pair, 5.1, etc. These are also represented in the alsa card interface instructions, but jack doesn't worry about those14:06
zequencejack only shows the channels as they are, from 1-?14:06
moosebagok, interesting.14:06
zequenceThe likelihood for pulseaudio working, but not jack is very slim14:07
zequenceSince they basically use the same drivers, where pulseaudio is the one that does more advanced things and where things can go wrong14:07
moosebagthanks. so do you think I need to do anything with a separate mixer app to configure my SB0100, or does Jack even take care of that?14:08
zequencemoosebag: jack doesn't handle leveling or any other hw controls at all14:09
zequencemoosebag: you use alsa mixers for that14:10
zequencemoosebag: you can try the command line tool alsamixer14:10
moosebagok, thought so. Right, so I still need to find where the line input signal is appearing in Jack, then try for a level in Ardour, assuming that meterbridge is a bit deaf!14:11
zequencemoosebag: It will show you all controls that exist for that card14:11
moosebagyes, been there a lot.14:11
moosebagdo you think the AC97 controls need setting for this purpose?14:12
zequencemoosebag: Sure you are not setting levels for you integrated card now?14:13
zequencemoosebag: You choose the card with the F6 key14:13
zequenceI wouldn't worry about it, anyway14:14
moosebagi don't think there 's any onboard sound system, but good point. one of the supplied mixer apps thought I was dealing with a totally different chip. The SB uses the Emu 10K1 or something like that. And cheers for the F6 suggestion.14:15
moosebagwhen I crack this problem, expect massive credits on the next album :)14:33
moosebagthanks again and bye, keep up the great work15:30
Guest95969I am using Ubuntu Studio on my desktop.  I have a Sony Xperia SP.  I want to backup the information onto the desktop so I can do a factory reset on my Xperia without losing data.16:59
Guest95969How do I do that?16:59

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