[12:56] <rooted> hello ,  is there an ubuntu version for a raspberry pi ?
[12:56] <hrw> rooted: no
[12:56] <hrw> rooted: and will not be
[12:57] <hrw> r/pi has too old cpu
[12:57] <rooted> hrw , no version because an old cpu ?
[12:57] <hrw> yes
[12:58] <rooted> i think there will be new version of raspberry pi , called compute moudule
[12:58] <rooted> so , some arm version can install same packages as the normal ubuntu ?
[12:59] <ogra_> we'll see once that thing is available :)
[12:59] <ogra_> if you want something Pi like that runs ubuntu, get a beaglebone
[12:59] <hrw> rooted: that module is same crap as r/pi
[13:00] <rooted> orga_ ive got one actually and a really love it.
[13:00] <ogra_> or wait for the new Pi and hope someone does the necessary porting
[13:00] <rooted> and now am going for cubieboard
[13:00] <ogra_> hrw, i think there is a v7 Pi planned ...
[13:00]  * ogra_ read about that somewhere 
[13:00] <hrw> ogra_: let it rest in pieces
[13:01] <ogra_> Pi-eces
[13:01] <ogra_> :)
[13:01] <rooted> lool
[13:01] <hrw> ;D
[13:01] <hrw> ok, enough of r/pi talk
[13:01] <hrw> my weekly limit will end too soon
[13:01] <ogra_> dev-boards are not really the super hot focus in ubuntu anyway anymore ...
[13:02] <rooted> so raspberry pi , is a crap because it has an old cpu ? i love that you can find every thing for it , such as camera , speaker's , sensors
[13:02] <ogra_> its either server/arm64 or phones (with an android container to use the binary blobs)
[13:03] <lool> rooted: the new module is the same hardware as the current rpi
[13:03] <rooted> well , i loved the ubuntu edge idea, but its a shame the campaign stoped.
[13:03] <lool> rooted: just different form factor
[13:03] <lool> rooted: there wont be an ARMv7 rpi for 6months+ at least
[13:03] <rooted> hmmm
[13:03] <ogra_> well, wait another year and the phones will have the specs the edge was aiming for
[13:03] <lool> rooted: I recommend beaglebone black as an alternative, but it might be hard to get in certain locations
[13:04] <rooted> i know , it was sad  that the campaign stopped , any chance to restart it again ?
[13:04] <rooted> lool ive got one , the rev b and C
[13:04] <rooted> C is on the way actually
[13:04] <hrw> ogra_: so far only ram and storage size is lacking in market phones
[13:05] <lool> rooted: it's technically superior to rpi and can run Ubuntu (but is more expensive)
[13:05] <rooted> lool yeah, $10 extra
[13:05] <hrw> beaglebone black is 45$ iirc
[13:05] <lool> sadly BBB is still hard to get in France
[13:05] <ogra_> hrw, right, and there are already phones with 3G RAM and 64G disk ... so we're getting close
[13:05] <hrw> rooted: what for you use r/pi?
[13:05] <rooted> lool , subscribe to notification service at adafruit.
[13:05] <hrw> if video decoding then consider cubietrack
[13:06] <hrw> if playing with signals then beaglebone
[13:06] <rooted> hrw , am working on an educational project, later to be for a comercial usage , for an OCR system
[13:07] <hrw> rooted: so camera and some storage + cpu speed?
[13:07] <hrw> rooted: cubietrack + usb camera + sata hdd. dualcore cpu onboard
[13:07]  * rooted got angry when he started knowing about ubuntu edge campaign and realized its stopped 
[13:07] <rooted> hrw exactly
[13:08] <ogra_> hrw, the RPi is the MSOffice of today :) too many people have it so you dont get around it in some sapces ... i.e. educational fiddling
[13:08] <rooted> hrw , yeah just knew about cubieboard , i was thinking to make a customized case for such idea , with paper dispenser
[13:08] <hrw> ogra_: good thing is that I can ignore r/pi related talks as I do not have to worry about <armv8 now
[13:09] <ogra_> rooted, and electrically driven toilet paper roll ?
[13:09] <rooted> orga_ maybe :p
[13:09] <lool> rooted: I avoided ordering from the US so far, but maybe I need to revisit this
[13:09] <rooted> lool , well the best thing was the notification service.
[15:27] <ndec> hi ogra_ , i came across this old IRC log http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/08/%23ubuntu-arm.txt. do you remember the issues you had with using -S with fastboot flash?
[15:27] <ogra_> corrupt partitions after tranfer
[15:27] <ogra_> *trans
[15:28] <ndec> hmm..
[15:28] <ndec> so you aren't using it, right?
[15:28] <ndec> even 2 years later?
[15:28] <ogra_> we dont use much of fastboot at all anymore
[15:29] <ndec> do you remember if it was on some h/w, or possibly any h/w?
[15:29] <ogra_> only for the initial bringup to flash kernel and boot partitions ...
[15:29] <ogra_> err
[15:29] <ogra_> boot and recovery, sorry
[15:29] <ogra_> the rest is ubuntu in ubuntu touch
[15:29] <ogra_> (upgrades run from recovery, not using fastboot at all)
[15:30] <ndec> the initial bring up is what then?
[15:31] <Tassadar> nexus 7 (grouper) had this problem, I don't remember anybody really trying it out on anything else
[15:31] <ogra_> ndec, running ubuntu-device-flash to get the initial install going ... that tool boots into bootloader, flashes boot and recovery, then reboots into recovery and runs the rest of the install from there
[15:32] <ndec> ok.
[15:32] <ogra_> but neither boot not recovery need to be sparse
[15:32] <ndec> yep.
[15:32] <ogra_> so we dont need -S