[00:10] <Keba> hi there
[00:11] <RippSteakface> Keba: hullo
[00:11] <Keba> In XFCE after pluggin in an external drive an icon is added to my desktop. After double clicking that icon, the drive is mounted at /media/$name. How to mount this drive in a terminal instead of double-clicking?
[00:13] <Keba> one obvious way would be to add the drive to my fstab, but that does not work for the "usb drive a friend just gave me" scenario
[00:14] <Chaser> Keba: do a dmesg and look for the block device name (like sdb1, sdc1 etc) and then mkdir -p /tmp/disk; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/disk
[00:15] <Chaser> or you already knew that :D
[00:19] <drfoo> anyone know how to change the network interface name ? i have a second card with f'upd names
[00:21] <R0b0t1> Hello, my sound is not working. Anything to try?
[00:21] <matt45785633> is anyone an expert with partitioning?
[00:21] <R0b0t1> ... sure. What is it?
[00:21] <R0b0t1> Don't ask to ask a question, by the way.
[00:21] <matt45785633> i got a non-existing raid
[00:21] <matt45785633> 2 1000gb partitions on a 500gb disk
[00:21] <R0b0t1> Okay so now this is RAID, not partitioning, but keep going...
[00:21] <R0b0t1> Ehm?
[00:22] <matt45785633> when i try to delete them it says cant delete partition outside the disk
[00:22] <Chaser> drfoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html (search for "Ethernet Interface Logical Names")
[00:22] <matt45785633> Error deleting partition /dev/sdc2: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdc" "rm 2"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[00:22] <matt45785633>  (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[00:22] <R0b0t1> matt45785633: So you don't care about the data on the disks?
[00:22] <matt45785633> nope
[00:22] <drfoo> yes thanks Chasrer;
[00:23] <drfoo> "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" file is missing
[00:23] <R0b0t1> matt45785633: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk for about a minute on each disk of the array and see if that does it
[00:23] <R0b0t1> matt45785633: were you using lvm or anything?
[00:23] <matt45785633> no
[00:24] <drfoo> i tried to regenerate with  lib/udev/write_net_rules
[00:24] <drfoo> and got " missing $INTERFACE"
[00:25] <matt45785633> R0b0t1 dd: failed to open ‘/dev/disk’: Is a directory
[00:25] <drfoo> hdw is detected but it gave it an ugly name -- rename5 and p2p1
[00:25] <R0b0t1> Oh, uh. Sorry, you were supposed to replace that with the device names of your disks, matt45785633.
[00:25] <R0b0t1> Do you know them?
[00:25] <matt45785633> 1 sec
[00:25] <R0b0t1> If you can find them then that's the last thing to do - double check they are absolutely correct.
[00:26] <R0b0t1> If you do what I say, note you will have to recreate the array.
[00:27] <matt45785633> i dont want an array
[00:27] <matt45785633> i just want the 2 seperate disks
[00:27] <matt45785633> theres 2x500 gb disks
[00:32] <ctmjr> matt45785633: are they both for storage
[00:32] <matt45785633> yeah
[00:33] <matt45785633> both 500 and on 1 it says 1000gb free 1000 gb extended
[00:34] <ctmjr> matt45785633: then just use gparted to format them
[00:34] <matt45785633> cant
[00:34] <matt45785633> il send u the error
[00:34] <Keba> re
[00:35] <matt45785633> Error deleting partition /dev/sdc2: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdc" "rm 2"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
[00:35] <matt45785633>  (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[00:35] <Keba> Chaser: yeah, I already know that. But that‘s not very convenient
[00:35] <Keba> Anyway, good night :)
[00:39] <Bashing-om> matt45785633: As you now longer want RAID maybe do -> sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sdX <- to remove the RAID meta data ???
[00:45] <rose> I am having a bit of a problem. I am on an Hp notebook 2000 and I am tryying to install an AMD file from the site since the flgrx-updates doesn't fix the graphical problems. problem is its a .run file. Told ubuntu to read it as an excuteable and it freezes up. please help
[00:45] <Chaser> drfoo: sorry I don't know why it wouldn't generate the 70-persistent-net.rules. The reason it may skip it is if the mac address is being ignored (see /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules). For example it ignores virtual interfaces etc.
[00:53] <bgmarete_> Hello.
[00:53] <drfoo> thanks Chaser;, im going to create my own, if that doesn't work try a re-install
[00:54] <rose> amd .run keeps freezing. tryying to update driver flgrx for amd graphics seems outdated according to the amd site
[00:54] <Beldar> rose, Crack a cold one, technically not supported here, however you may get help.
[00:55] <rose> Beldar, how?
[00:55] <Beldar> rose, 3rd party
[00:55] <Beldar> not from the ubuntu repos
[00:55] <tracker> Hi, can someone give a hand. All that i need is a tutorial about how to setup a UBUNTU 14.04 LTS on a WINDOWS 2008 Server, ....
[00:55] <rose> Beldar, no kidding. I'm tryying to install the amd driver manually from a .run file.
[00:56] <baka> search puny sorrows
[00:56] <baka> @search puny sorrows
[00:56] <unopaste> baka: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[00:57] <Beldar> rose, Sure, and if I knew the answer I would help. ;) Just a heads up on this issue is all, you might try channel help with the flgrx in the frepos.
[00:57] <rose> Beldar, k thanks. I'm out peace
[00:57] <drfoo> tracker: install vmware player download ubuntu iso, install have fun
[00:57] <Beldar> baka, What is it you need?
[00:58] <Beldar> !dualboot | tracker
[00:58] <baka> sorry I mixed up my server windows
[00:58] <tracker> No, no... let me make my self clear...
[00:58] <Track> @pony sorrows
[00:58] <tracker> I want to setup my UBUNTU on a W SERVER DOMAIN
[00:59] <Beldar> tracker, So this is a installed ubuntu you want on the domian?
[01:00] <Beldar> Track, Stop spamimg the channel.
[01:00] <Track> im not
[01:00] <tracker> Not exactly, is one of my Desks on job....
[01:00] <snufft> can anyone give me some pointers on how I would install php 5.3 on ubuntu 13.10? i need to regress for some testing. i've already uninstalled my previous php version (5.5.3)
[01:00] <snufft> i'm guessing I'd have to do it from source?
[01:00] <Beldar> Track, You are not using the channel as support that is it's role.
[01:01] <Track> Which track are you talking about?
[01:02] <Beldar> Track> @pony sorrows
[01:02] <Track> oh sorry about that wont happen again
[01:02] <Beldar> Track, No bots here either
[01:02] <Track> I dont have any
[01:02] <somsip> snufft: is this for apache or cli?
[01:02] <snufft> somsip, apache :)
[01:03] <nms> I installed ubuntu studio on mac using parallels. My only screen resolution option is 800*600. Does anyone know why this could be and If I have anyway of changing it?
[01:03] <somsip> snufft: you're asking for a world of trouble. Use a VM runnig 12.04 which is still on 5.3.10 IIRC
[01:03] <snufft> somsip, no worries! thanks :)
[01:03] <Beldar> tracker, Just trying to phish out relative details do you can get help. ;)
[01:03] <Beldar> so*
[01:04] <Beldar> nms, YOu looked at additional drivers for graphic?
[01:04] <BabyGodzillaIV> sorry about that. Testing.
[01:04] <lazarus_> http://pastebin.com/qUmWkC1n anyone have any idea why this isnt killing the tar process when i press cancel on the zenity dialog
[01:05] <Track> Beldar
[01:07] <tracker> I can kill your process manually...
[01:07] <tracker> pid aux
[01:07] <tracker> killall name or kill -9 "PID"
[01:07] <Track> Tracker Nice name bye the way
[01:07] <tracker> I like it
[01:07] <tracker> My question is about setting up my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a Windows Server 2008 Domain with Active Directory.
[01:07] <tracker> I have tried many tutorials on the Internet but all are stuck somewhere ..
[01:07] <tracker> Some ask you to edit the resolv.conf and in the file itself there is a statement saying not to change the file because it will be overwritten.
[01:07] <tracker> I need a GOOD recipe for a cake to configure my ubuntu at work.
[01:07] <tracker> I managed to do the hardest part. Convince my boss to exchange all Windows workstations for linux ...
[01:07] <Beldar> tracker, what are you talking about
[01:07] <unopaste> tracker you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:08] <Track> unopaste?
[01:08] <Beldar> !ot > tracker
[01:08] <nms> no, i'm not sure how I would go about it, but i'll give it a shot
[01:09] <drfoo> nms: do you have a gui desktop installed ?
[01:09] <Beldar> nms, software & updates also known as software sources has a additional drivers tab
[01:10] <Beldar> drfoo, Good point, easy to assume they do.
[01:11] <drfoo> i just want to know if he tried adjusting from Display util.
[01:11] <nms> thanks beldar. trying it out
[01:11] <teaearlgraycold> Quick coding question for C++: Why is it bad to flood the namespace?
[01:12] <nms> "no additional drivers available"
[01:14] <Track> WHy?
[01:15] <Track> what did i do?
[01:16] <Track> WHAT DID I DO ROUGH
[01:18] <gwood1234> Hey all
[01:18] <Beldar> nms, So you have looked in displays? Have you used nomodeset?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> gwood1234: What it be ?
[01:20] <wilhelm1> Where may it be verified that the rc.local scripts run?
[01:24] <Yelu> wilhelm1, maybe with such a line in it? - logger –t ScriptName “Hello World” (btw: for the guest account customization => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession )
[01:24] <skjones> i gather icedtea doesn't work after installing 14.04 on chromium?
[01:25] <daftykins> skjones: pretty sure you can't install ubuntu on a browser...?
[01:25] <wilhelm1> Yelu: Using Ubuntu and a custom iptables rules file and I found the firewall wide open as if iptables-restore had not run.
[01:26] <Yelu> wilhelm1, you already found the root cause for this?
[01:27] <skjones> daftykins, running chromium on 14.04 and icedtea doesn't work any longer?
[01:28] <daftykins> skjones: doesn't work for what?
[01:28] <Yelu> wilhelm1, sorry I mis-read your line
[01:28] <skjones> daftykins, running java type content on websites
[01:28] <BabyGodzillaIV> I FIND FAT PEOPLE TO BE RATHER FAT.............
[01:29] <wilhelm1> Yelu: what is the extra "Hello World" for, is this line to be placed in the script itself or the line running the script?
[01:29] <Yelu> wilhelm1, this "<text>" will be logged into syslog
[01:30] <Yelu> wilhelm1, it is just a one-liner in your script (rc.local et al.)
[01:31] <daftykins> skjones: do you see icedtea listed in the plugins/extensions of chromium?
[01:31] <wilhelm1> Yelu: RE: "you already found the root cause for this?" , unsure as of yet the iptables-restore may not have run , the files are in place.
[01:32] <Yelu> wilhelm1, this is strange, indeed
[01:32] <skjones> daftykins, no, but it installed and works in firefox.  wondering if the news chromium went to aura had an effect on icedtea?
[01:33] <wilhelm1> Yelu: The security policy here requires blocking https.
[01:33] <geovane> Legal este chat em!
[01:35] <daftykins> skjones: i don't know anything about chromium or what aura is, but perhaps you're lacking symlinked plugins
[01:35] <daftykins> skjones: in the grand scheme though, i am never surprised that a non-official oracle java has issues
[01:36] <elfMobile> is there a reason I can't log in as root over ssh with a password?
[01:37] <wilhelm1> Yelu: Due to the security policy blocking https the previous https help link is not allowed. Is Yelu helpful enough to send the file?
[01:37] <somsip> elfMobile: maybe disabled in /etc/sshd.conf. Like NoRootLoginALlowed true
[01:37] <Yelu> wilhelm1, I'm not very savvy with iptables and your security policies, but is there a chance just to activate ufw and add a rule like "sudo add deny in from any port 80" (or deny out ... to any ...)?)
[01:38] <daftykins> elfMobile: you can't login as root at all with ubuntu
[01:38] <Yelu> wilhelm1, service delivery ongoing in your direction, 1 sec, pls.
[01:38] <somsip> elfMobile: actually. /etc/ssh/sshd_config PermitRootLogin no
[01:38] <daftykins> elfMobile: if you've set a password for root, then you're breaking the entire purpose of running ubuntu
[01:38] <blueingress> Hi, Is there any Chinese user here? I have some problem displaying the fonts.
[01:38] <daftykins> !cn | blueingress
[01:40] <wilhelm1> Yelu: Ufw looks like an abstraction of iptables, it is not used for now. There may be a use for it as an application specific switch later.
[01:41] <Yelu> wilhelm1, knock, knock (file transfer)
[01:49] <JimJon476> Hello how can I copy a file from ubuntu 12.04 server in virtualbox to the host. There is no gui. Cut and paste nor drag and drop work.
[01:50] <holstein> !scp
[01:50] <JimJon476> tried to ssh and ftp to no avail thought I could access a shared usb device and copy
[01:50] <holstein> JimJon476: assuming they are on a bridged network
[01:50] <holstein> JimJon476: if you cant ping the machine, you wont "share" anything over your network like that
[01:51] <JimJon476> holstein: Thank you
[01:51] <holstein> JimJon476: get the machines networked on your main network, both with an IP from your router (if thats acceptable).. and use ssh
[01:52] <JimJon476> ubottu: Thank you
[01:52] <holstein> JimJon476: you use scp via ssh
[01:52] <JimJon476> is scp on osx?
[01:52] <night0w1> yes
[01:53] <holstein> JimJon476: you can use the terminal from osx to do the same
[01:53] <holstein> or, any client that supports ssh.. sftp from filezilla, for example
[01:53] <JimJon476> itried filezilla and ftp in but the connection was refused
[01:53]  * night0w1 hoots
[01:54] <daftykins> night0w1: that hooting is off-topic sir, unless it be related to ubuntu!
[01:56] <night0w1> daftykins, the ubuntu related discussion triggered the hooting im sorry its just a reflex sometimes
[01:56] <daftykins> lol
[01:56] <daftykins> i'm too drunk to care tonight
[01:56] <JimJon476> holstein: I’m not sure how to get them networked? I’ve done it with dhcp and windows but not osx.
[01:57] <abstrakt> how do I get to the configuration for my workspaces in GNOME3 on 14.04?
[01:57] <abstrakt> also, how do I swap caps on my keyboard?
[01:57] <abstrakt> I had this set previously in my last DE through the control panel but I've looked around and don't see any option for this yet in the plain gnome keyboard control panel
[01:58] <skjones> daftykins, apparently chromium having some growing pains, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2014-April/004462.html
[01:58] <night0w1> JimJon476, you should probably read/refer this :
[01:59] <night0w1> JimJon476, http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
[01:59] <holstein> JimJon476: bridged mode in virtualbox.. puts the machine on your network
[02:00] <daftykins> skjones: nice find, that seems fair
[02:03] <F40PH> repent or perish(luke 13:3)
[02:04] <JimJon476> night0w1: Thank you
[02:04] <JimJon476> holstein: Thank you
[02:04] <night0w1> is Vbox stable on Ubuntu 12.04 now?
[02:05] <holstein> night0w1: virtualbox? it works for me.. i think "stable "can be a matter of opinion and use case..
[02:05] <night0w1> I had bad stability issues with it in 2010-2011 (most were bad updates from the devs)
[02:05] <holstein> night0w1: let them know.. worked, and works fine here
[02:05] <holstein> !bug
[02:06] <night0w1> for example totally wrecked after an update to vbox and reverting to previous version
[02:07] <night0w1> Im currently using VMWare WS, Would rather use XCP though, I think it conflicts with manual LUKS setup, though
[02:08] <somsip> !info awesome precise
[02:09] <night0w1> !meyow
[02:09] <Ramdhani> !info avant window navigator
[02:09] <Ramdhani> !info avant window navigator  trusty
[02:10] <night0w1> !info xapi
[02:10] <night0w1> !info xcp-xapi
[02:10] <Ramdhani> !info awn trusty
[02:10] <willwh> night0w1: vbox is stable yep
[02:11] <willwh> guys, please /msg ubottu <insert whatever>
[02:11] <daftykins> for those suddenly keen to play with the bot, please query it instead of making us all suffer
[02:11] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Hey. Are you around?
[02:11] <willwh> don't spam the channel
[02:11] <daftykins> (that means private message the bot instead)
[02:11] <Ramdhani> ok
[02:11] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, yes, as a matter of fact, I am
[02:12] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Are you in an assistance-providing mood?
[02:13] <Flannel> Ramdhani: you can also use packages.ubuntu.com to explore the repositories
[02:14] <willwh> kcj: best to ask your question in channel, others can help
[02:14] <willwh> although it sounds like Seven_Six_Two maybe has some prior knowledge ;)
[02:14] <melt7777> after googling
[02:15] <F40PH> !ops | unless ye repent ye shall all perish
[02:15] <willwh> Ramdhani: you can also do things like this: apt-cache search <package>
[02:15] <willwh> and apt-cache show <package-name>
[02:15] <daftykins> F40PH: leave.
[02:15] <Ramdhani> yes
[02:16] <daftykins> it concerns me that the ops trigger has people on it who haven't been in here for years, though
[02:16] <kcj> willwh: I was talking to him the other day and I don't feel like re-informing the channel thanks.
[02:16] <willwh> kcj: of course, totally up to you :)
[02:19] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, I will, but I'm currently receiving help in another matter.  :)  the love goes all around! If you're patient, I'll come back soon
[02:19] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Sure. Thanks for the help. Ping me if you remember. :)
[02:20] <Ben64> kcj: looking through the logs, all you need to do is install the nvidia driver. While i'm sure Seven_Six_Two is great, you could probably get help from one of the other 1696 people in here
[02:21] <kcj> Ben64: The driver is installed but it complains of metamodes being too long if I try to create an Xconfig file.
[02:21] <wilhelm1> Does Yelu want to become a security expert?
[02:21] <kcj> Er, Ben64 and anyone else.
[02:21] <Ben64> kcj: nvidia-settings complains?
[02:21] <kcj> Yes.
[02:22] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, definitely ask others. There are lots of great people here.
[02:22] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Yep. Thanks man.
[02:22] <Yelu> wilhelm1, respect, I didn't expect this.
[02:23] <wilhelm1> Yelu: It is very rewarding to become a security expert.
[02:24] <Ben64> kcj: what is the exact error that comes up? I'm unable to reproduce your problem here
[02:25] <kcj> Ben64: Okay. I'll take a screen shot.
[02:26] <kcj> Ben64: http://i.imgur.com/CIqLGt8.png
[02:27] <Ben64> kcj: ooh, ok... hit "write all metamodes", output to some temporary file and take out modes you won't need, then finally use that as the real xorg.conf
[02:31] <cusoma> how to use this?
[02:32] <kcj> Ben64: is there anyway I could just break it up over a few lines?
[02:32] <Polm> Hi, I'm having some issues with my network card after upgrading to 14.04. I always seem to get corrupted downloads with large files, details on the card are in this post (not by me, but the network issue is the same, please ignore the graphics one while responding to me) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220960 . Is there anything I could do?
[02:37] <maestrojed> I typically VNC to my ubuntu box. Its been a while but I think I use Ubuntu's built in "screen sharing" options as the server software. I recently removed the connected monitor planning on only using vnc. Now the vnc won't connect "Connection Refused". Any suggestions? FYI I can ssh to the box.
[02:40] <maestrojed> I see others asking the same question but no solution online so I guess this is a thing...
[02:43] <whoever> maestrojed: what is the question
[02:43] <maestrojed> whoever connecting to remote desktop (vmc) when a monitor is not connected (headless).
[02:44] <daftykins> maestrojed: X could fail to start and configure properly without a monitor to sync up with, preventing VNC... what happens if you plug a monitor in after boot?
[02:44] <whoever> maestrojed: it will capture what is on the server screen , if it is headless there is nothing to capture
[02:44] <maestrojed> daftykins :) I don't have one available at the moment.
[02:45] <maestrojed> whoever yeah. I was not expecting that
[02:45] <whoever> maestrojed: then you need to ssh in, what prob are you trying to solve
[02:45] <maestrojed> yeah, I can ssh no prob.
[02:46] <whoever> maestrojed: hince, you cannot startx on a headless box
[02:46] <maestrojed> Seldom do I need the GUI, but I needed to access a program real quick.
[02:46] <maestrojed> gotcha
[02:46] <maestrojed> thanks, I will deal :)
[02:46] <daftykins> you don't have X starting auto at boot?
[02:47] <whoever> so what where/are you tring to do
[02:47] <minimec> maestrojed: Can you 'ssh -X'. You could then launch the program remotely, if the server is running. 'ssh <server> -X'
[02:47] <maestrojed> well. :) I was going to play music via Google Play. Then I was going to install mine craft server.
[02:47] <whoever> minimec: but there isn't a head so x would fail
[02:47] <maestrojed> I can still install mine craft I imagine.
[02:47] <maestrojed> Going to google that now
[02:48] <whoever> maestrojed: ssh and access and pull data that way
[02:48] <minimec> whoever: That's what we try to see, right?
[02:48] <whoever> you don't need a gui
[02:48] <apb1963> I need to get some pix off an old phone... any ideas how to do that?  ubuntu 12.04
[02:48] <apb1963> It's to a usb port
[02:48] <whoever> apb1963: the phone has usb right ?
[02:49] <apb1963> whoever: yes
[02:49] <maestrojed> minimec what does the "-X" attribute do? I tried it, looks like I shelled in as normal.
[02:49] <apb1963> whoever: it shows up with lsusb
[02:49] <whoever> apb1963: then hook the phone up and ubuntu will detect it, and you access it that  way
[02:49] <Guest71153> how do you get flash working in #ubuntu ?
[02:49] <Guest71153> 12.04 lts
[02:49] <maestrojed> I have no idea how to control graphical programs via a command line (ssh). Though I am very interested to learn :)
[02:49] <whoever> APLU: then find out what device it is and mount it
[02:50] <minimec> maestrojed: Ok. Now try to launch 'gnome-terminal'. If you are lucky, you get a terminal from the remote computer.
[02:50] <apb1963> sorry,,, irc client crashed... again.
[02:50] <xangua> Guest71153: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-adobe
[02:50] <apb1963> whoever: so the hardware is recognized... but... how do I actually access the phone?
[02:50] <whoever> gyaresu: flash plug-in
[02:50] <maestrojed> minimec I shell into the ubuntu box and then run 'gnome-terminal' in that shell (on the ubuntu box)?
[02:51] <Guest71153> xangua, not a valid package
[02:51] <whoever> apb1963: does it have an sd card
[02:51] <xangua> Guest71153: sorry, it's adobe-flashplugin
[02:51] <apb1963> whoever: no... it's an OLD phone...
[02:51] <whoever> apb1963: can you connect to wifi from it
[02:52] <apb1963> whoever: samsung sch-360
[02:52] <maestrojed> minimec running 'gnome-terminal' on the ubuntu shell returns an error https://www.refheap.com/85709
[02:52] <minimec> maestrojed: exactly. You 'ssh <server> -X' from a running xsession to the other computer, and try to run 'gnome-terminal'
[02:52] <apb1963> whoever: OLD.  I don't think wifi existed back then .  lol
[02:53] <Beldar> apb1963, is this an android phone, and what release of it?
[02:53] <minimec> maestrojed: ok. You are "headless". Can you 'sudo service lightdm start' ?
[02:53] <Chayce> Hi, I am ssh with a a server and installation is going on ubuntu 14.04 server. It is going to take a  long time  for the installation process, and before the installation completes...the terminal ends saying broken pipe. How do I stop terminal to deactivate before its installation  completes. It is something related with screen command.
[02:53] <apb1963> Beldar: android definitely did not exist back then.
[02:54] <maestrojed> minimec ightdm start/running, process 2059
[02:54] <BlackWeb> Is anyone here familiar with HP Printers?
[02:54] <Beldar> apb1963, Fpr 12.04 you need a ppa to access android, however the release matters, I will get you the link.
[02:54] <Beldar> For*
[02:54] <somsip> Chayce: run it in tmux or screen (both installed on the base AMI IIRC)
[02:54] <BlackWeb> I'm trying to spool Hp Printer every Startup
[02:55] <BlackWeb> Currently my HP-Printer doesnt work Unless I boot system up, Then Unplug it
[02:55] <Beldar> apb1963, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[02:55] <apb1963> Beldar: It's not android
[02:55] <whoever> apb1963: sadly i had the same situation, you will have to go into a carrier and have them pull the pics for you
[02:55] <Beldar> apb1963, Ah, I missread than.
[02:55] <Polm> Hi, I'm having some issues with my network card after upgrading to 14.04. I always seem to get corrupted downloads with large files, details on the card are in this post (not by me, but the network issue is the same, please ignore the graphics one while responding to me) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220960 . Is there anything I could do?
[02:55] <whoever> apb1963: or you can try to access it in a windows vm
[02:56] <apb1963> Beldar: whoever: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-U360MAAVZW
[02:56] <whoever> apb1963: yes it is an OLD flip phone
[02:57] <apb1963> whoever: good thought.  Won't I need software? ?  I have an XP VM
[02:57] <apb1963> xp pro
 Thank you. If I do screen command before installation, the installation keeps running in a server even I close my laptop? just wanna make sure about that.
[02:57] <whoever> apb1963: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1099332.html
[02:57] <Beldar> apb1963, I have no idea beyond android, so beat of luck. ;)
[02:57] <maestrojed> minimec I appreciate the help and am curious to learn more now knowing what is wrong and that you can access GUI programs via CLI. But don't worry about helping me further. I am just going to install a mine craft server and move on :)
[02:57] <Beldar> best*
[02:57] <pancakes9> how come #ubuntu-beginners-dev comes here?
[02:58] <somsip> Chayce: yes. I use tmux but the idea is the same. Start screen, run whatever you want to. Detach from screen *and it stays running*. Reconnect to server later. Reconnect to screen, and your process will still be there
[02:58] <whoever> apb1963: if you do it would be easy to find in windows
[02:58] <Beldar> pancakes9, (Channel is invite only)
[02:58] <pancakes9> Beldar: how do I get invited?
[02:58] <minimec> maestrojed: strange... so service lightdm is running on both machines? Hmmm... YOu should be good. 'Lightdm' can only run if there is a valid 'X' configuration.
[02:58] <Guest7691> ola boa noite algum brasileiro
[02:58] <somsip> !pr | Guest7691
[02:58] <Polm> WHAT THE FUCK!?
[02:59] <Beldar> pancakes9, Fancy tap dance, heh, no idea.
[02:59] <trism> pancakes9: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-beginners/2013-August/002541.html
 Thanks a lot !!!
[02:59] <somsip> !pt | Guest7691
[02:59] <maestrojed> minimec I know I had some nvidia software installed too which is probably complicating things.
[02:59] <Beldar> pancakes9, YOu might ask in #freenode
[03:00] <whoever> apb1963: any luck yet
[03:01] <Guest7691> cara primeiro dia que entro nesse canal desculpa encomodar mas se quiser me ensinar agradeço
[03:01] <apb1963> whoever: reading.  There's a link to another page that talks about obex-ftp
[03:02] <apb1963> whoever: of course it's for a nokia but I suppose there's a small possibility it might work.  I think trying the windoze option would be easier/faster.
[03:02] <Beldar> !es > Guest7691
[03:02] <hikaruBG> hi all
[03:03] <hikaruBG> I have Ubuntu 14.04 on my Desktop computer and netflix-desktop won't run with the following error:
[03:03] <hikaruBG> ###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
[03:03] <whoever> apb1963: ya thats why i suggested it
[03:03] <hikaruBG> I have no problem running it on my Vaio Laptop
[03:03] <minimec> maestrojed: So in that case you should have a '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' on the remote machine with the nvidia configuration. if you 'sudo mv /etv/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back' and 'sudo reboot' it would then probably fallback to the 'nouveau' driver. But I am not sure if that solves your problem. It's worth a try... You can always 'mv' the config back to its place to get the original state back.
[03:03] <Beldar> !pt | Guest7691, sorry
[03:03] <hikaruBG> bot computers with NVIDIA Videocards
[03:03] <hikaruBG> the Desktop Machine has the EVGA GTX 590
[03:04] <hikaruBG> any help?
[03:04] <maestrojed> minimec ok, cool. I read about stuff like that. I know you can apt-get a "dummy monitor" too. I was surprised to find my /etc/X11/xorg.conf very basic. But it will be fun to play with.
[03:04] <whoever> apb1963: sadly those old flip phones were petty well locked down
[03:04] <maestrojed> minimec I really appreciate the tips and pointers
[03:05] <Beldar> hikaruBG, Have some patience, if someone knows they will probably answer. ;)
[03:05] <hikaruBG> Beldar, Probably :)
[03:05] <hikaruBG> Hopefuly
[03:06] <minimec> maestrojed: Well we always try to help... ;)
[03:06] <apb1963> whoever: working on updating vbox
[03:07] <apb1963> nothing is ever easy
[03:08] <whoever> hikaruBG: i am installing it just to see if i get the same error
[03:08] <hikaruBG> OK
[03:08] <hikaruBG> Thanks whoever!
[03:08] <whoever> hikaruBG: how new is this install that you get the error on
[03:11] <zac_> hello?
[03:11] <whoever> zac_: hello
[03:11] <maestrojed> minimec that you do! :)
[03:12] <ndy> a question can i have backup of my fully stable ubuntu (right now) so whenevr i mess up in future with sound etc etc i can resotre my old ubuntu
[03:12] <hikaruBG> same thing! :(
[03:12] <holstein> ndy: yes
[03:13] <holstein> ndy: clonezilla is a nice easy way to create those
[03:13] <ndy> holstein thanx :) but how
[03:13] <ndy> holstein clonezilla ok:)
[03:13] <whoever> ndy: seperate drive and clonezilla se
[03:13] <holstein> ndy: clonezilla has documentation
[03:13] <apb1963> Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modulesError! Could not locate dkms.conf file.
[03:14] <minimec> maestrojed: So you got some news?
[03:14] <whoever> hikaruBG:  ok installing wine crap
[03:14] <whoever> hikaruBG: did you get that far
[03:15] <hikaruBG> yes, netflix is running, just can't play movies - black screen
[03:15] <hikaruBG> I dug into the problem and there is "libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast" error
[03:15] <hikaruBG> before the message I have posted
[03:15] <hikaruBG> let me research that
[03:16] <ndy> holstein :) actually i messed up with my output sound before it was workin well my ubuntu was functioning well but i messed up
[03:16] <maestrojed> minimec no, :). switched gears. Installing minecraft server. :). Trying to figure out "screens" cause it was recommended
[03:16] <maestrojed> "screen" not plural
[03:16] <minimec> maestrojed: ok.
[03:16] <ndy> whoever clonezilla clones our whole os ?
[03:17] <hikaruBG> Be right back guys...
[03:17] <psusi> ndy, or rather than back up everything that can be reinstalled with clonezilla, you can just backup your home directory, which covers your files and settings, maybe /etc for any system settings, and dpkg --get-selections will dump a list of all packages you have installed, so you can use dpkg --set-selections to reinstall them all later
[03:17] <psusi> saves a lot of disk space that way
[03:18] <sisterFister> so how might I go about executing gcolor2 with a shell script and then getting the selected color into a variable in that shell script?
[03:18] <whoever> hikaruBG: i don't get that error
[03:18] <whoever> do you have flash installed
[03:19] <maestrojed> screen is pretty cool
[03:19] <whoever> hikaruBG: it works fine for me
[03:19] <ndy> psusi thanx
[03:19] <whoever> maestrojed: that it is
[03:20] <ndy> what should i do ubuntu cant detect my sound card
[03:20] <whoever> ndy: what sound cart
[03:20] <whoever> *card
[03:21] <holstein> ndy: clonezilla, works as advertised, and addresses easily the need you stated.. cloning your partition or disk containing your operating system
[03:22] <whoever> ndy: how new are you to linux
[03:22] <sisterFister> i guess you could say...pretty gnu.
[03:23] <sisterFister> badum-tss
[03:23] <whoever> sisterFister: :-)
[03:23] <ndy> whoever im noobs
[03:23] <whoever> ndy: what sound card do you have
[03:23] <daftykins> sisterFister: certainly no FOSSil
[03:24] <ndy> how can i know that any commands
[03:24] <ndy> whoever any commands for that
[03:24] <sisterFister> daftykins: lol
[03:24] <holstein> ndy: then, dont clone your OS. just backup your data.. keep in mind *all* hard drives fail, and just keep your data mirrored somewhere
[03:25] <ndy> holestein yeah i was thinkin about installin new ubuntu then cloning it for future
[03:25] <whoever> ndy: sudo lshw
[03:26] <holstein> ndy: sure.. just dont bother with that.. just keep a copy of your data, and be ready to reinstall.. or fix issues with commands that you'll learn
[03:26] <psusi> holstein, or use raid ;)
[03:26] <whoever> ndy:  to clone or restore you probably want to use clonezilla se... simuler to norton ghost
[03:27]  * psusi picked up 3 1tb wd blue drives at xmas for a mere $70 each ( think they are only $60 each now ) and built himself a nice fast raid10 that can handle any one drive failing and has the speed of 3 drives
[03:27] <whoever> ndy: if you really want to learn and learn fast i would say install gentoo the old way (by hand not the gui installer )
[03:28] <ndy> whoever http://paste.ubuntu.com/7495784/
[03:29]  * whoever breaks into psusi's pad and takes his raid setup because it was quiker then building his own :-)
[03:29] <ndy> whoever gentoo like arch linux ??
[03:30] <ndy> holstein am i thinkin rite to clone fully good workin ubuntu so in future if i messed up with something i can restore it back
[03:31] <whoever> ndy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/no-sound-in-ubuntu-and-mint-10-and-12-a-940636/
[03:32] <whoever> ndy: yes but only but on the image what you need to get running ie: nothing you rarely use
[03:32] <whoever> ndy: you might also want to learn vim and get a das keyboard ultimate
[03:33] <psusi> real men use emacs ;)
[03:33]  * whoever pats himself on the back holding ndy virtual hand 
[03:34] <ndy> whoever vim is text editor thats all i knw
[03:34] <holstein> ndy: it only takes about 8 minutes to reinstall, friend.. if you are new, and dont want to spend the time learning to clone
[03:34] <whoever> psusi: real men use vim and straight razors , girls uses emacs and match 3 blades :
[03:34] <whoever> :-)
[03:35] <whoever> ndy: it also does text highlighting, and also uses keyboard commands for editing so no need for a mouse
[03:35] <ndy> holestien yeah ur rite :)
[03:36] <whoever> night all
[03:36] <apb1963> whoever: 'night.  thanks for the help
[03:36] <whoever> AfterDeath: np
[03:37] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know how to Spool a printer using HPLIP
[03:38] <whoever> ndy: since your new, learn the system... atleast a little before you get to cloneing, cloneing and restoring is easy ... now night [snore, and snooz, snore, and snooze, ...]
[03:44] <ndy> whoever now ive one option removing this ubuntu and instaling new noobs way ;)
[03:45] <BlackWeb> Is anyone familiar with HP PRINTERS, How do I specify  a printer to spool @ startup??????????? everytime I boot system I have to Manually UNPLUG printer to get it to spoool and to OPERATE with UBUNTU 12.04
[03:46] <holstein> BlackWeb: have you asked HP?
[03:46] <wilhelm1> Why did the iptables not restore?
[03:46] <BlackWeb> Searched there site & nothing
[03:47] <BlackWeb> I've tried sudo service cups restart, & Nothing,
[03:47] <BlackWeb> Everytime I restart my system Unless I Unplug the printer then plug it back it, It wont work..
[03:47] <gra> Can you not just set the HP printer as default?
[03:47] <BlackWeb> HP Printer is set to Default
[03:48] <holstein> BlackWeb: i have had to work with work arounds like that, with products that dont support linux
[03:48] <BlackWeb> On other releases 10.10 everytime my system booted up, The printer would spool - 14.04 nothing
[03:48] <holstein> BlackWeb: you said, 12.04?
[03:49] <holstein> you can always look back at 10.10 and see what was going on in there
[03:49] <BlackWeb> I upgrade from 12.04 hoping that 14.04 would fix current problem, But ever since I left 10.10 I've had this problem, So like 2yrs now
[03:51] <holstein> BlackWeb: sure, have you looked at 10.10 to see what is facilitating the support? i can gurantee you, there was no ubuntu meeting where it was decided that your hardware should not work properly
[03:52] <BlackWeb> Maybe different HPLIP versions is all I can think of
[03:52] <apb1963> ok... so my phone has bluetooth... how can I access it over bluetooth?  I know zero about blue teeth.  I met a guy from TX once that had green teeth (nasty), but that doesn't help obviously.
[03:53] <Beldar> BlackWeb, I had a HP printer that had a model with the same except for like later releases, and the ubuntu drivers that actually were for the printer did not work but the later did. Same basic name, but a additional letter....etc.
[03:53] <holstein> BlackWeb: try them, though, some could have requirements that make the older version that provided your support not work with a more recent kernel
[03:53] <cfhowlett> apb1963 airdroid for android
[03:53] <BlackWeb> Alright, Thanks :)
[03:53] <apb1963> cfhowlett: not android
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth
[03:54] <apb1963> cool.  ty
[03:55] <gra> apb1963, You have a bluetooth adapter I assume?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:56] <apb1963> gra: My (ancient) phone apparently supports bluetooth.... that's all I know.
[03:57] <gra> apb1963, ....but does your computer have the bluetooth adapter?
[03:57] <apb1963> gra: I'm thinking no
[03:57] <apb1963> gra: I take it I need one of those?
[03:59] <gra> 'apb1963, Yes...it works better with an adapter...like wifi needs the wifi adapter if it's not built in
[04:00] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, any luck?
[04:00] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Not really. Did you see the error message?
[04:01] <apb1963> gra: ok thank you.  I guess I'll see if the verizon store will be nice enough to pull my pix off the phone.
[04:01] <hikaruBG> giving up on thie problem now.
[04:01] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: It's here http://i.imgur.com/CIqLGt8.png if you haven't.
[04:01] <hikaruBG> see ya guys
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> hikaruBG: whats going on?
[04:01] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, no
[04:02] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Ben64 suggested I just remove modes I don't need but I was just wondering if I could separate the lines.
[04:02] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, you can truncate. you don't need that many (if any) metamodes
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> kcj: your monitor problem happens after upgrade or clean install?
[04:03] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: What if a program wishes to set the mode?
[04:03] <Seven_Six_Two> or do the writes, and edit /etc/xorg.conf by hand to remove the extras.
[04:03] <kcj> lotuspsychje: Er, every time I restart.
[04:03] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, keep the common ones, like 800x600 1024x768
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> kcj: but did you try it on a clean install ever?
[04:04] <kcj> lotuspsychje: This isn't a very old install.
[04:04] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, or don't have any metamodes, and add them as needed.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> kcj: ok
[04:10] <gu3rr3r0> quit
[04:10] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, Do you have programs that change your modes?
[04:10] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, in my experience there aren't very many. Some games, but if you set it to native resolution you should be fine.
[04:11] <kcj> Not at the moment. Truncated it to only the modes neded.
[04:11] <kcj> Going to do a restart and hopefully it'll work and xorg won't catch fire.
[04:11] <pdo_fn14> Oh I may forgot to playing VCD file manually in VLC. Both Totem and VLC can't play it automatic and can't opened the .dat files. Ty guys :)
[04:11] <kcj> brb hopefully.
[04:11] <Seven_Six_Two> kcj, rotation is saved across restarts?
[04:15] <FreddieFedora> I’m trying to get id_rsa from virtual machine Ubuntu Server 12.04(No GUI) guest, to OSx host/client. Can anyone help?
[04:16] <kcj> Seven_Six_Two: Nope, didn't stick.
[04:18] <ni738457> HelloWorld
[04:31] <Beldar> FreddieFedora, Just a guess here, check this site in general. http://askubuntu.com/questions/30788/does-ssh-key-need-to-be-named-id-rsa
[04:31] <Beldar> I only ssh my cat
[04:38] <Locke2002> what distro is your cat running?
[04:39] <gassho> Closed laptop lid, reopened, switched from cli to gui on ubuntu 14.04; alt+f2 thinger covered the login prompt on the gui; found a workaround by clicking the itty bitty cog and selecting 'switch user'
[04:39] <gassho> others may not find that solution, no?
[04:43] <FreddieFedora> Beldar: Thank you
[04:43] <Beldar> FreddieFedora, No problem. ;)
[04:44] <gassho> thats what i like to see in here :D
[04:46] <cc> ccbac
[04:59] <Nosomy> hmm...
[05:00] <RubixRex> which flavor should i use to mine crypto coins ?
[05:01] <c4rt3r> there is specialised distros RubixRex
[05:01] <c4rt3r> but the more lightweight the better obviously so maybe lubuntu
[05:01] <c4rt3r> if you want ubuntu ofcourse
[05:02] <RubixRex> yeah i do
[05:02] <RubixRex> i have a 32bit version of win 8.1, but i have 8gb of ram i want to utilize
[05:03] <trijntje> RubixRex: you can use both 64 and 32 bit ubuntu, 64 is probably better on a new system. However, you dont need much RAM to mine coins anyway
[05:03] <rww> bitcoin mining isn't RAM bound, it's GPU bound, so that probably isn't going to get you anything
[05:04] <rww> and GPU mining sucks these days anyway, thanks to ASICs
[05:05] <Beldar> easier ways to make a good living
[05:11] <he1kki> Okay, it's time for my first bug hunt. Target is this annoyingly random cursor in wrong position bug with FF/Thunderbird described @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1306550
[05:11] <he1kki> I have no idea what I'm doing, but if anyone is interested, feel free to msg me if you have any good tips
[05:17] <owh> he1kki: Good luck!
[05:18] <he1kki> wow. only thing what you actually need to do to get your cursor off course is to use alt+tabbed show desktop and come back again in firefox
[05:22] <Typhoon_> Hi guys... I
[05:22] <he1kki> can anyone please try to confirm? FF full screen -> alt+tab "Show desktop" -> back FF and your cursor should be clicking some pixels off
[05:23] <he1kki> ubuntu 14.04
[05:23] <cihan> jjh
[05:23] <cihan> jjj
[05:25] <Typhoon_> I've installed 12.04.2 from a liveUSB, but have this peculiar problem where DNS resolution doesn't happen. All other devices connected to the same network are able to browse without issue, but this Ubuntu machine is unable to do so. nslookup and ping both fail, in addition to browsing on Mozilla. Plus, once I get the IP address of the google server (running ping on another Windows machine), I'm able to visit it on the Ubuntu machi
[05:26] <owh> Typhoon_: You got cut off at "on the Ubuntu machi"
[05:27] <Typhoon_> owh - ... I'm able to visit it on the Ubuntu machine, by typing the IP address instead of the website name. So.. if I type 74.125.128.139 - in the firefox address bar, I can access Google
[05:33] <mozzy___> hello all
[05:33] <randomlinux> Typhoon_: what's in /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:34] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - hang on, I'll check.. I was experimenting with the old "Switch it off, and switch it on again" solution
[05:35] <randomlinux> That can never hurt either :)
[05:36] <he1kki> Aa, this bug may have actually something to do with Unity Tweak Tool and option "Switch between minimized windows". At least by changing that setting behaviour gets back to normal.
[05:37] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - resolv.conf has nameserver 127.0.0.1
[05:37] <randomlinux> try adding google's resolvers
[05:38] <randomlinux> and comment outt the localhost one
[05:38] <Typhoon_> yeah, was going to do that..
[05:38] <Typhoon_> so that would be
[05:38] <Typhoon_> nameserver 8.8.8.8 ?
[05:38] <randomlinux> yea 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[05:41] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - It opens as read only. I did sudo chmod +rw resolv.conf
[05:41] <Typhoon_> but still doesn't let me save to the file
[05:41] <randomlinux> odd.  it should let you.  try doing chmod 755 resolv.conf
[05:41] <randomlinux> it shouldn't matter
[05:41] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - (not to mention the fact that there's a line that say "DO NOT EDIT BY HAND" lol
[05:42] <randomlinux> but it's worth a shot
[05:42] <randomlinux> yea, normally you do it in network manager
[05:42] <randomlinux> but i figured that'd be an easy way to test first
[05:42] <randomlinux> network manager will overwrite it when it restarts if you edit it manually
[05:43] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - nope.. it doesn't let me edit it.
[05:43] <Typhoon_> I ran the command while in the /etc/ folder
[05:43] <randomlinux> do lsattr /etc/resolv.conf
[05:43] <randomlinux> what's that say?
[05:43] <randomlinux> you should be able to edit it if you're root
[05:44] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - lsattr: Operation not supported While reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[05:45] <randomlinux> that's unusual
[05:45] <energizer> hi i just installed trusty, and my sound doesnt work. I have a USB DAC that my speakers are plugged into.
[05:45] <randomlinux> Is something using that file?  maybe try lsof | grep resolv.conf ?
[05:45] <pine> テスト
[05:46] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - nothing happens.. no error, no output.. (after lsof | grep resolv.conf)
[05:47] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - I opened etc in the file browser (the GUI) and the icon for resolv.conf makes me think that it's a shortcut pointing to the actual resolv.conf that sits somewhere else in the file system..?
[05:48] <ubuntuser13> I installed  a java based software.but unable to run it ? on clicking desktop icon no response.
[05:48] <randomlinux> maybe try whereis resolv.conf
[05:48] <randomlinux> maybe it'll tell you a different location
[05:48] <Typhoon_> it shows two places...
[05:48] <randomlinux> what does ls -al /etc/resolv.conf show?
[05:48] <Typhoon_> resolv: /etc/resolv.conf /usr/include/resolv.h
[05:49] <Jordan_U> energizer: Do you see the USB DAC in the list of outputs in the sound preferences?
[05:50] <Seven_Six_Two> ubuntuser13, is it a .jar file?
[05:51] <Typhoon_> ls -al /etc/resolv.conf --> result says: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 May 20 23:12 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[05:51] <randomlinux> ah ok that's what the deal is
[05:51] <randomlinux> that's an odd spot for it
[05:51] <energizer> Jordan_U: tbh im not sure. http://imgur.com/moTPpqS
[05:51] <Typhoon_> I'll go there and edit it..
[05:51] <randomlinux> so you should be able to edit it at /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[05:51] <randomlinux> yea
[05:52] <energizer> Jordan_U: either way, none of those produces sound
[05:52] <ubuntuser13> seven_six_two: no it.s not . it is .sh file.
[05:52] <randomlinux> energizer: does the usb device show when you do lsusb ?
[05:53] <punto> hi.. I'm getting a popup that says "system program problem detected" but it gives no information, how do I find out what the problem is?
[05:53] <punto> on 14.4
[05:53] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - Nope. Same issue.. even after chmod, it won't let me edit the file and save it.
[05:53] <energizer> randomlinux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7496075/
[05:53] <randomlinux> are the permissions the same on that other file too?
[05:54] <rps_> Hi All..pls help me....
[05:54] <rps_> I want to know the minimum partition size for ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[05:55] <randomlinux> energizer:  im not sure what your DAC would be on there tbh.  What's the brand?
[05:55] <motaka2> hello I am trying to share a folder in ubuntu and I get this error:  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[05:56] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - this is the ls al output for that file: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 172 May 21 11:06 /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[05:56] <energizer> randomlinux: behringer DAC
[05:56] <randomlinux> Typhoon_: Do you get the same error when you try to edit that one too?
[05:57] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - yeah... Ctrl+S (on gedit) doesn't save. The save button's also greyed out.
[05:57] <randomlinux> energizer: I don't see anything that looks like that in the usb device list.  Are you sure it was found when you plugged it in?
[05:57] <Ben64> Typhoon_: because you don't have permissions to edit that file. why are you trying to edit it? didn't you notice the "DO NOT EDIT" part?
[05:58] <randomlinux> Typhoon_: do you use ssh or the gui?
[05:58] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - the Gui.
[05:58] <randomlinux> i'd use ssh
[05:58] <randomlinux> then you can make sure it works, then set it up in the network manager if it does
[05:58] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - ok.. how do I do that?
[05:58] <randomlinux> open terminal under your apps
[05:59] <randomlinux> then type sudo su to become root
[05:59] <Ben64> do not type that ^
[05:59] <randomlinux> or
[05:59] <randomlinux> do
[05:59] <Ben64> that is not the proper way to get root
[05:59] <randomlinux> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[05:59] <energizer> randomlinux: ya -- i took it out and lsusb, then replug and lsusb -- it is the texas instruments audio codec
[05:59] <rps_> hell randomlinux..
[06:00] <randomlinux> ha that's how i do it.  i'm fine with learning what i'm doing wrong too
[06:00] <Typhoon_> lol.. ok.. so if not sudo su, then what?
[06:00] <Ben64> "sudo -i" if you absolutely need a root shell, which in almost every case you don't need
[06:00] <randomlinux> true
[06:01] <Typhoon_> well.. as far as editing the DO NOT EDIT resolv.conf goes, I did use sudo chmod
[06:01] <motaka2> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[06:01] <randomlinux> well it's do not edit because it wil get overwritten
[06:01] <Ben64> while on the subject, never use sudo for a graphical application, you can make yourself unable to log into your desktop. use gksudo for graphical applications
[06:01] <someHuman> Hello!
[06:01] <someHuman> How do I download all of the PDFs in this page?
[06:01] <someHuman> http://www.ielts.org/test_takers_information/test_sample/academic_reading_sample.aspx
[06:02] <someHuman> I want to download all of them at the same time, then be brought to my Downloads folder in the same order.
[06:02] <Typhoon_> so what should I do now? sudo -i, and then..?
[06:02] <energizer> someHuman: there are various browser extensions for that, or read a tutorial for wget
[06:03] <Ben64> Typhoon_: why not just "sudo nano" or something?
[06:03] <Typhoon_> someHuman - lol..there are 8 PDFs.. WAY faster to simply do it manually? Unless you're learning programming
[06:04] <Typhoon_> sudo nano resolv.conf? While in the relevant directory?
[06:04] <rps_> Pls help me out...
[06:04] <Ben64> Typhoon_: sure, or the full path
[06:05] <someHuman> Typhoon_: I know how to download them, and yes I am learning coding :D
[06:06] <energizer> randomlinux: any thoughts?
[06:06] <Typhoon_> Ben64 - ok that worked. I was able to change the file. Let me check if the DNS resolution works on Firefox
[06:07] <randomlinux> yea i would do sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[06:07] <randomlinux> sorry i was away for a minute
[06:07] <Typhoon_> Ben64, randomlinux - yeah.. after adding 8.8.8.8 in that resolv.conf file - I'm able to now browse.
[06:07] <Ben64> Typhoon_: yeah, makes sense
[06:08] <energizer> randomlinux: i mean about my usb dac situation
[06:08] <randomlinux> excellent.  you're going to have to make sure you add that to network manager if you're using it though
[06:08] <randomlinux> or it will stop working again
[06:09] <Typhoon_> Ben64, randomlinux - right, but as you've said.. it'll get over-written. 2 questiosn - how do I make a permanent edit, and how do I get it to use my ISP's DNS servers though?
[06:09] <randomlinux> energizer: i'm not to sure really
[06:09] <randomlinux> Typhoon_: i would personally just use the google resolvers and not your ISP's unless you really need to
[06:09] <energizer> randomlinux: hmm. is there a linux audio guru somewhere i might talk to?
[06:10] <randomlinux> sorry energizer - i sure don't
[06:10] <energizer> randomlinux: no worries. thank you tho.
[06:11] <randomlinux> you bet
[06:11] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - yeah, but the thing is.. my ISP requires me to log in, before I'm allowed to browse. And the session logs out after 24 hours. So when I fire up the computer tomorrow morning, I'm going to have to visit their login page. I
[06:11] <Typhoon_> I'm not sure, but I think I won't be allowed to even connect to 8.8.8.8 until that's done.
[06:12] <Typhoon_> I guess I could add the login page into the resolv.conf file as well..
[06:12] <randomlinux> you may want to try leaving theirs as the first nameserver and google as the 2nd and 3rd
[06:12] <randomlinux> im not positive that will work tbh
[06:13] <Typhoon_> ok.. so how do I edit this in network manager again?
[06:14] <randomlinux> let me grab you a guide.  give me just a sec
[06:14] <someHuman> Where does wget save downloads by default?
[06:14] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - thanks.
[06:14] <rww> someHuman: the current directory
[06:15] <someHuman> rww: Thanks! How do I change the destination for just an instance though?
[06:16] <someHuman> rww: Also, if it's fine with you, can you also include on how to configure wget's destination permanently?
[06:16] <rww> someHuman: wget -O path/to/filename.out http://example.com/
[06:16] <rww> someHuman: no idea about permanently
[06:17] <Draconis> hi guys, I'm trying to get 3 monitors working on ubuntu 14.04. In Catalyst Control Center  it detects two monitors and then theres an item that says [Unknown Display] AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series.           is this a driver or config issue?
[06:17] <someHuman> rww: What does -O stand for?
[06:17] <randomlinux> Typhoon_: I couldn't find anything good so I'm just going to tell you
[06:17] <randomlinux> you're on 14.04?
[06:17] <rww> someHuman: output document
[06:18] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - 12.04
[06:18] <someHuman> rww: Ah ok, thanks!
[06:18] <randomlinux> ok right click on the network icon at the top and manage connections
[06:18] <randomlinux> then pick your connection and click options at the bottom
[06:19] <Typhoon_> ok..its edit connections..but yeah
[06:19] <randomlinux> sorry im on 14.04 and gnome so it's a little different now
[06:19] <randomlinux> anyhow under options you should see ipv4 settings > dns servers
[06:20] <someHuman> How do I write in terminal, move all of the files here in  'folder' except for 'names'?
[06:20] <someHuman> rww: Got any idea?
[06:20] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - yeah, set to manual, and add 8.8, and 4.4?
[06:20] <randomlinux> i think it will still work with automatic if you dont want a static ip address
[06:21] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - it won't let me edit the DNS field if it's under automatic
[06:21] <randomlinux> ah it does on mine
[06:21] <Typhoon_> well.. there are 2 automatics
[06:21] <randomlinux> dhcp is the one you want if you are using wireless
[06:21] <Typhoon_> one is Automatic, and the other is Automatic (DHCP address only)
[06:22] <Typhoon_> sorry... the first one is Automatic (DHCP) and the other is Automatic (DHCP) addresses only
[06:22] <randomlinux> yeah it lets me edit it on the first one on my box
[06:23] <Typhoon_> ah.. right.. well.. manual should work I guess. The key word being "should".
[06:23] <randomlinux> yea if you are ok with a static ip address then that will be fine
[06:24] <Typhoon_> randomlinux - cool. This should be fine for now. Thanks for the help!
[06:26] <randomlinux> No problem at all!
[06:56] <BlackWeb> Is there a Easy way to Initialize USB Ports
[06:56] <rww> elaborate on "initialize"?
[06:57] <BlackWeb> I have a printer connected to USB and on startup then its not seeing it
[06:58] <trijntje> BlackWeb: you don't see the printer in lsusb?
[06:58] <BlackWeb> Which I thought it was HPLIP driver @ first but then realized system isnt seeing it if I try to readd the printer, But if I do lsusb it sees it
[06:58] <BlackWeb> I see it in lsusb
[06:59] <BlackWeb> but if I try to add it without unplugging it first software cant see it
[06:59] <AncientPC> How do you switch to another user shell if you have root access?
[06:59] <BlackWeb> So problem is unless I unplug my printer ever reboot I cant print to it, & its like the system cant see it, but if I do lsusb it does
[07:00] <BlackWeb> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:0517 Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 1000
[07:00] <Logan_> AncientPC: man su
[07:00] <BlackWeb> so is there a way to initialize usb ports every startup
[07:02] <trijntje> BlackWeb: its not the usb port, its the driver. If lsusb can see it the system sees it
[07:04] <BlackWeb> yea lsusb can see it,  Then when I go into add printer it cant find it unless I unplug it then plug it back in, I'll keep playin with it, Thanks :)
[07:09] <energizer> i don't understand how to use symlinks. I'm trying to have ~/.emacs.d link to ~/Dropbox/.../emacs.d so i can sync it thru dropbox.
[07:10] <energizer> so i tried "ln -s emacs.d ~/.emacs.d" but the symlink is broken
[07:14] <helmut_> hi
[07:14] <energizer> hi
[07:14] <en> whats up helmut
[07:20] <gustavo> Hi
[07:20] <gustavo> Will Ubuntu 14.10 come with Unity 8 and new icons???
[07:21] <gustavo> ???
[07:23] <energizer> uh where did everyone go?
[07:24] <Guest28303> i shall shred my hare drive then install ubuntu with windows on the same computer,shall i make partition for linux while installing windows or i leave free space?
[07:25] <Beldar> Guest28303, Install windows first, you can manually install leaving a unallocated for ubuntu.
[07:26] <Beldar> energizer, generally slow in this time frame
[07:26] <abak> Hi everyone, I am currently running 13.04, and i would prefer not to run a full distro upgrade. I really need a package that is available in the repo for trusty tar (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/libdw-dev/0.158-0ubuntu5), is there a way for me to get it painlessly?
[07:26] <energizer> Beldar: word
[07:26] <Guest28303> Beldar: shall i allocate the unallocated space while installing linux or it will not be allocated for system,swap and partition?
[07:27] <Shuro> Hi there, I've upgraded some clients at work from saucy to trusty, now multiple coworkers which use Unity complain about that it wont show up in kdm anymore. Is that some known bug or so?
[07:27] <Beldar> Guest28303, unallocated here means an empty space.
[07:27] <Guest28303> Beldar: thanks :)
[07:28] <Beldar> Guest28303, Install the windows manually on part of the hard drive leaving the are for ubuntu blank, then when you install it will give you the option to install in that empty space.
[07:28] <Beldar> area*
[07:29] <rww> abak: #ubuntu does not support installing packages intended for a different Ubuntu verson.
[07:29] <Beldar> Guest28303, No problem, feel free to ask questions as needed. ;)
[07:29] <gassho> on ubuntu 14.04 i saw a shadow so to speak, of the volume meter, which disappeared. i posted this jic it might require removal
[07:30] <abak> rww, where could I go instead?
[07:31] <gipzo> Hello folks!
[07:31] <Beldar> abak, You know the eol date of 13.10?
[07:31] <rww> abak: No idea. Since it's not officially supported or recommended by Ubuntu, I believe none of our official support venues will go through it.
[07:31] <abak> Beldar, nope
[07:31] <rww> !13.10
[07:32] <rww> hrm, I should add that date
[07:32] <roninn> is there a way to avoid writing grep x */*/*/
[07:32] <abak> so basically i should go an update?
[07:33] <Beldar> abak, I would before the eol if you want support is all, and updated security.
[07:33] <rww> (EOL is in July)
[07:33] <abak> ok let's go then
[07:33] <gipzo> Could somebody help me with my problem? I have remote linux server and it has practically no free memory (i suppose something is leaking). When I try to connect via ssh it show me something like "-bash: fork: cannot allocate memory"
[07:34] <rww> abak: Once you get to trusty, I'd recommend sticking with the LTS cycle (trusty/14.04 is LTS), which is every two years and supported for fie years.
[07:34] <rww> five **
[07:34] <geirha> roninn: why do you want to avoid that?
[07:34] <abak> is there an advanced mode for upgrading
[07:34] <gipzo> But now I connected somehow, but shell is -bash-4.2$
[07:34] <abak> e.g. no messing with my kernel?
[07:34] <gipzo> I trying to "reboot now" but it says -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory. What the smallest command to reboot system?
[07:35] <Beldar> abak, This a compile or what?
[07:36] <abak> oh fuck
[07:36] <Beldar> sigh
[07:36] <abak> apparently, the upgrade cant be applied
[07:36] <abak> i get an error message
[07:36] <Beldar> abak, Don't bother answering
[07:36] <abak> Beldar, yes
[07:37] <BlackWeb> is there anyway to Start HPLIP on system startup
[07:38] <Beldar> !language | abak
[07:38] <intx> x
[07:38] <QA`> hello,every on
[07:38] <dmiller309_> Hey there.
[07:39] <AlexPortable> Is there something like winkey+left arrow to pin a window on the left? Like in windows 7 and 8
[07:39] <dmiller309_> Control+Super+Left
[07:40] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know the command to launch HPLIP  - Spent the last 6 hours trying to have system start it on STARTUP
[07:41] <AlexPortable> dmiller309_: is it also possible to get rid of ctrl?
[07:41] <dmiller309_> BlackWeb: I don't know, but you could open Synaptic, look under "installed files", and look for one of the commands in the path (it has "bin" in it).
[07:42] <BlackWeb> Installing Synaptic
[07:42] <BlackWeb> now
[07:43] <abak> Why is it impossible to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 if i have unofficial packages, not provided by ubuntu?
[07:45] <owh> abak: That would be because they likely depend on versions of things that are going to be uninstalled and because they themselves don't have an upgrade path. Likely your best bet is to uninstall the unofficial packages, upgrade and then install them. Note that this is not a supported activity.
[07:45] <abak> owh, is there a fast an easy way to get the list of unofficial packages on my machine?
[07:46] <dmiller309_> abak: Can't you just filter by source in Synaptic?
[07:46] <owh> abak: That's almost impossible to answer since we have no control on how you installed things.
[07:46] <Abhishek_> How to fake EDID in kernel mode of an external monitor?
[07:47] <Abhishek_> *How to fake EDID of an external monitor in kernel mode?
[07:49] <dmiller309_> AlexPortable: The option should be in All Settings > Keyboard > Windows under restore Window, but for some reason it's not listed.
[07:51] <dmiller309_> I wrote an application on 13.04/13.10 that used the org.gnome.ScreenSaver ActiveChanged signal, but I've noticed that it's not being emitted in 14.04 when I lock the screen. Is there a new way (D-Bus)to know if the screensaver state has changed?
[07:52] <dmiller309_> The org.gnome.ScreenSaver SetActive method does lock the screen and causes the ActiveChanged signal to be emitted, but using Super+L doesn't cause the signal to be emitted.
[07:57] <dmiller309_> Sorry, I figured it out.
[07:59] <BlackWeb> HPLIP wont Recognize Printer unless I Unplug it EVERY time I Boot
[07:59] <BlackWeb> good god
[07:59] <dmiller309_> Looks like the new method is on the service com.canonical.Unity, com/canonical/Unity/Session/, com.canonical.Unity.Session signal Locked.
[07:59] <BlackWeb> Has anyone ever had any luck with HPLIP
[08:00] <abak> owh, would it be enough to disable the ppas, or should i remove the packages also? Alternatively, does it make any difference if i use a proper install dvd ?
[08:01] <dmiller309_> BlackWeb never used it. I always check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters before purchasing a printer.
[08:01] <AlexPortable> dmiller309_: more things aren't listed in 14.04
[08:01] <AlexPortable> they scraped it
[08:02] <owh> abak: Use a dvd for a fresh install, or an upgrade?
[08:02] <murosai> i wonder why the command find . -iname "*.war" | xargs jar -tf is not printing anything?
[08:02] <abak> owh upgrade
[08:03] <owh> abak: No, a dvd won't make any difference.
[08:03] <abak> ok
[08:03] <owh> abak: Did you only install packages using PPAs?
[08:04] <abak> owh, nope,
[08:04] <owh> abak: So you installed stuff from source, from .debs, from official locations and from PPAs?
[08:05] <abak> owh that's about it
[08:05] <owh> abak: That's a big hole you dug yourself into.
[08:05] <geirha> murosai: because you need to run jar -tf onefile.jar
[08:06] <abak> well, that's one way of putting it,  I need to install some of the stuff i develop, and not everything is supported by ubuntu
[08:06] <geirha> murosai: one file as opposed to many files. anyway, don't use xargs. find . -name "*.war -exec jar -tf {} \;
[08:06] <owh> abak: Did you make everything into .deb files before you installed them?
[08:06] <murosai> okay now it works with find . -iname "*.war" | xargs -n 1 jar -tf | grep main
[08:06] <geirha> *sigh*
[08:06] <murosai> but how could i also know the file the grep belongs to?
[08:07] <abak> owh, nope,
[08:07] <murosai> geirha: why the sigh?
[08:07] <murosai> something wrong with xargs?
[08:07] <dmiller309_> abak: I periodically nuke Ubuntu for the same reason, so I keep my /home in a separate partition and use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid to reinstall.
[08:07] <abak> is there a way for do-release-upgrade to tell me what are the packages/ppas that he doesnt like?
[08:08] <abak> dmiller309_, me too, but there are things outside /home i'd like to keep
[08:08] <owh> abak: Not sure. Let me have a look.
[08:08] <geirha> yes, xargs is broken by design. Anyway, getting the archive name in there is a bit more tricky.
[08:08] <abak> owh, thx
[08:08] <murosai> broken by design?
[08:09] <geirha> murosai: find . -name "*.war" -exec bash -c 'for f; do printf "==> %s <==\n" "$f"; tar -tf "$f" | grep main; done' _ {} +
[08:09] <ggherdov> hi. Just upgraded to 14.04, and via python I get UnknownLocaleError: unknown locale 'en_US' with this snippet: http://bpaste.net/show/wRZIBueaFk6AHiF0r2xn/
[08:09] <ggherdov> any clue ? My locale is en_US.UTF-8, look http://bpaste.net/show/ssfcpRnlfxMId9KgBz7B/
[08:11] <geirha> murosai: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind#Actions_in_bulk:_xargs.2C_-print0_and_-exec_.2B-
[08:14] <owh> abak: I'd recommend that you read all of this comprehensive run-down of your options: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu
[08:14] <abak> owh, thx
[08:15] <Hsaka> Where can i find good unity themes for ubuntu 14.04? Any pages?
[08:16] <Hsaka> Any recomendations?
[08:17] <owh> Hsaka: I haven't used any of these: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/ambiance-and-radiance-colors-theme-pack.html http://smashingweb.info/ubuntu-14-04-themes-unity-themes-gtk-themes-and-icon-themes/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Theming
[08:18] <Hsaka> owh, thank you
[08:20] <ipg> Hello
[08:20] <ipg> Is quagga in ubuntu's package enable snmp ?
[08:21] <stevenm> When on apt-get you get... "The following packages cannot be authenticated!" - Can you somehow ask apt which keys it thinks are missing?
[08:22] <ServerSage> stevenm: Have you tried updating the keys?  "sudo apt-key update"
[08:22] <stevenm> ServerSage, yup no effect - i know i'm missing the key but I want to know which one
[08:23] <stevenm> ServerSage, i think the packages are signed with a different key to the repo - so apt-get update works... but apt-get install doesn't
[08:23] <ServerSage> Usually apt-get update will tell you if any repos have bad keys though.
[08:23] <stevenm> ServerSage, again - it's not the repo, it's the packages
[08:25] <ServerSage> It's been a while since I saw this error, but if I'm not mistaken it lists the packages right after the error, correct?  If so, what packages?
[08:25] <stevenm> i'll take that as - you don't know how to do what I'm asking
[08:26] <pocata> drowning ask ATT to new ubuntu but I want to go back and menu CLASSIC what was written in the terminal
[08:26] <ServerSage> I'll take that as you don't want help.  *shrug*  It's not going to say "The following packages..." without listing packages.
[08:26] <stevenm> the names of the packages are irrelevant
[08:26] <pocata> ?
[08:27] <pocata> you ask with ATT new ubuntu but I want to go back and menu CLASSIC what was written in the terminal :)
[08:29] <ServerSage> stevenm: Run an apt-get clean ; apt-get update and you should probably be set.  But, I don't know what I'm doing.  I'm ignorant.
[08:29] <rahul___> shubh, hii
[08:29] <stevenm> yes, yes you are.
[08:29] <ServerSage> :P
[08:30] <ServerSage> Try it.
[08:30] <pocata> ServerSage: help me pls
[08:31] <ServerSage> pocata: I'm not sure what you are asking.
[08:31] <strigga> Morning. I have an issue with a file I cannot read. The files permissions/user/group/size/date are displayed as ????? - any idea how to handle this? I checked a couple of forums and outting the directory to +x did not do the trick
[08:31] <strigga> outting=setting
[08:32] <ServerSage> stevenm: I'm sure you have run apt-key list and didn't seen anything.  You can reinstall the keyrings, that will often solve it.  Or you can try what I suggested, which will fix it.
[08:32] <ServerSage> stevenm: Or, you can ignore me, which is also fine.
[08:32] <pocata> I want to get back classic menu on ubuntu
[08:32] <makara> hi. I my Lenovo B570 won't shutdown or suspend. The CPU goes 100% and it just stays like that, unresponsive. It was fine with 13.10, but not 14.04.
[08:32] <ServerSage> pocata: Not sure what you mean by classic menu.
[08:33] <stevenm> ServerSage, you have ignored the question, so I ignore your irrelevant answers
[08:33] <makara> pocata: google classic-menuindicator
[08:33] <ServerSage> stevenm: Sounds good.
[08:33] <makara> strigga, can you open a terminal and navigate to the folder
[08:34] <strigga> makara: Yes, I'm right there.
[08:34] <strigga> makara: -????????? ? ?     ?            ?            ? .csync_journal.db-journal
[08:34] <makara> ls -al
[08:34] <ServerSage> strigga: Have you tried changing the owner of the file?  Does it allow it?
[08:34] <ServerSage> strigga: Woah, never mind.  That is pretty funky.
[08:34] <makara> strigga, make a copy of the file, rename is something short and decent
[08:35] <strigga> ServerSage: mmh depends on the point of view :P
[08:35] <ServerSage> strigga: Have you run an fsck on the drive?
[08:35] <geirha> strigga: you should run fsck on that filesystem
[08:35] <RustyShackleford> the last time I tried to install ubuntu on my laptop, I had lots of trouble
[08:35] <geirha> a typical symptom of a corrupted fs
[08:35] <strigga> makara: cant copy it - gives an input/output error
[08:35] <citrix_> hii
[08:36] <RustyShackleford> ufi was one problem. Has support for this gotten better recently?
[08:36] <ServerSage> strigga: That's a pretty good indicator that the drive is fubar.  :)  fsck it
[08:36] <makara> strigga, what geirhar said, the fs is prob corrupt
[08:36] <ServerSage> strigga: And cross your fingers.
[08:36] <strigga> ServerSage: makara: geirha: Will do. Could use prayers now :)
[08:36] <strigga> Thanks for now
[08:36] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: Do you mean UEFI?
[08:37] <RustyShackleford> yeah i guess thats it
[08:37] <RustyShackleford> a year ago, the advice was to turn off UEFI
[08:38] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: GRUB2 knows all about UEFI, don't think ubuntu uses it.  But, it should work fine with GRUB2.
[08:38] <makara> strigga, https://github.com/owncloud/mirall/issues/1119
[08:39] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[08:39] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: Oops, wrong link.  :)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[08:40] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: I run Ubuntu 14.04 on an Intel NUC that uses UEFI, works just ducky.
[08:40] <pocata> ServerSage: I'm using this menu http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1210-large_007.jpg  and want to return the old look http://cdn1.initcron.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ubuntu-10-4b2.png
[08:40] <RustyShackleford> the other problem was my touch pad drivers
[08:40] <RustyShackleford> dell used some uncommon touchpad in mine
[08:40] <RustyShackleford> but I'll do my own googling, thanks
[08:41] <ServerSage> pocata: Did you read what makara said above?
[08:41] <citrix_> hii
[08:41] <citrix_> ab mila msg
[08:42] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: Yeah, not too familiar with dell touch pads on Ubuntu.   Sorry mate.
[08:42] <citrix_> batao na
[08:43] <lotherk> hi there.
[08:44] <ServerSage> pocata: I think you're trying to get back to the gnome desktop of yore.  This might help you:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session
[08:44] <lotherk> is it just me or is syslog-ng install in ubuntu 14.04 broken?
[08:44] <lotherk> if so, is there any reason?
[08:44] <RustyShackleford> do most of you use Unity? Or do you install something else?
[08:45] <t16h> < kubuntu
[08:45] <RustyShackleford> personally I don't hate unity that much
[08:45] <jlmarks> I don't hate Unity, but I am loving playing with i3
[08:45] <lotherk> I hate ubuntu 14.0.4
[08:45] <lotherk> 14.04.
[08:45] <t16h> will maybe use unity when it's more polished
[08:45] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: I use Kubuntu on my work machine, xfce on my media center, and unity on my laptop in the garage.
[08:46] <RustyShackleford> they are definitely doing some things right
[08:46] <ServerSage> jlmarks: i3?
[08:46] <t16h> but, actually, probably not, unity is too opinionated in its interfaces
[08:46] <t16h> i like choice
[08:47] <jlmarks> ServerSage: http://i3wm.org/ it is a tiling window manager
[08:47] <RustyShackleford> in particular, I like the keyboard shortcuts for window management
[08:47] <lotherk> could anyone with ubuntu 14.04 please run 'apt-get install syslog-ng -s' and tell me if it's broken there, too? (note -s, it actually won't install anything)
[08:47] <RustyShackleford> switching between workspaces and moving workspaces around
[08:47] <fidel> hi - i do have a nvidia card with 3 outputs. currently i do have connected 2 displays. Is it possible to use 3 displays with a single NV card with an ubuntu desktop system (at least in theory?)
[08:48] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: I don't use a window manager much to be honest.  My main machine is a Mac Pro.
[08:48] <jlmarks> lotherk: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:48] <RustyShackleford> ServerSage, you get your linux fix on servers mostly?
[08:49] <fishcooker> i have ubuntu box 2 interfaces wlan0(primary internet)+eth0 .. i have another debian box with eth0(only).. i will do debian-net-install .. how to enable internet on debian box if i connect ubuntu'eth0 with debian'eth0?
[08:49] <lotherk> jlmarks, yes. 14.04 seems unstable.
[08:49] <ServerSage> fidel: Yes, it is.
[08:49] <ServerSage> RustyShackleford: Mostly.
[08:49] <lotherk> jlmarks, what could be impossible about installing syslog-ng?
[08:49] <Ben64> lotherk: packages conflicting with other packages is hardly "unstable"
[08:50] <gipzo> How to get display size from kivy? Not window size
[08:50] <jlmarks> unknown, my fu is not that strong :( I was just replying what my messages gave in response to your request
[08:50] <lotherk> ah. I had to remove rsyslog. This should be done by the package itself imho.
[08:50] <gipzo> Wrong window )
[08:51] <ServerSage> lotherk: On the dozen or so systems that have syslog-ng installed here, nothing is broken.  :)
[08:51] <lotherk> ServerSage: yea, didn't know that I had to remove rsyslog by hand.
[08:51] <Ben64> apt-get install shouldn't remove packages
[08:51] <ServerSage> lotherk: Yeah, missed your message.  My bad.  Working and IRC'ing don't mix.
[08:51] <lotherk> Ben64 it does in many places.
[08:52] <fidel> ServerSage: an<ything special i need to do?
[08:52] <fidel> or should i just connect the third screen and everything should work out of the box?
[08:52] <ServerSage> fidel: No idea, you asked "in theory".  :)
[08:52] <fidel> hehe
[08:53] <RustyShackleford> woohoo! My touchpad drivers didn't work one year ago
[08:53] <RustyShackleford> they seem to work fine with the live cd
[08:53] <ServerSage> fidel: Now that I'm thinking about it though, I don't think any NVidia card actually supports 3 monitors.  But I could be wrong.  Are you hooking them all up DVI/HDMI?  If so, I'm 99% sure it's 2 only.
[08:53] <RustyShackleford> way to go linux devs
[08:54] <n8lag> what commandline program can set up an lis modem?  x86_64 ubuntu13.4. thanks
[08:54] <lotherk> bye
[08:54] <ant-one> asalaamualaikum...
[08:55] <jlmarks> Hello folks! I recently nuked an older install and am attempting to get 14.04 running on a machine. Everything seems to install properly, however when I boot I get this screen http://imgur.com/V1VaMtB (although with a different uuid because it is not my photo.) Here are my notes so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7496513/ any help/next steps would be appreciated.
[08:55] <n8lag> aleikum salaam
[08:55] <angs> I did " apt-get install lamp-server^"  sudo apt-get install tasksel and "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" but I cannot open php webpages locally. can anyone help me with that?
[08:56] <jlmarks> "this screen" is a screen that ends with " ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/myuuid   does not exist. Dropping to shell"
[08:56] <ServerSage> jlmarks: Do you happen to be using RAID?
[08:56] <jlmarks> no RAID
[08:56] <strigga> Back again. http://pastebin.com/C2QGsqVZ this is where I'm at. I did the ntfsfix after unmounting
[08:57] <ant-one> bah,,, english :3
[08:57] <Ben64> strigga: this is a ntfs partition??
[08:58] <strigga> Ben64: Jap - you cann se that in line 25. This used to be a windows machine - that's why
[08:58] <strigga> Ben64: problem is that one file that shows all the ???s
[08:58] <Ben64> strigga: well then you should be using windows to fix that
[08:58] <ServerSage> strigga: That would have been valuable info the first time round.  :)
[08:59] <ServerSage> strigga: Is that file readable in windows?
[08:59] <strigga> ServerSage: Just noticed myself - sorry bout that. I was sure I formatted it along the way :(
[08:59] <strigga> ServerSage: Ben64: No windows installed anymore
[08:59] <strigga> I made the successful switch
[08:59] <strigga> :)
[09:00] <Ben64> well, not so successful with an ntfs partition around still
[09:00] <Ben64> you absolutely need windows to fix it properly
[09:01] <n8lag> setserial and wvdial dont seem to work on this lsi thang
[09:01] <strigga> Ben64: phew OK. Will see if I can find a windows machine I can plug it into
[09:01] <strigga> Thanks all for looking into that
[09:01] <ServerSage> strigga: If you can, I would suggest backing up everything on that drive.
[09:01] <Ben64> strigga: then maybe look into changing it to ext4 :) ntfs is slow in linux
[09:01] <ServerSage> strigga: Maybe a backup, and then switch to ext4, and then restore.
[09:02] <strigga> ServerSage: I can read all files except for the buggy one.. And Yeah - of course I will find a more suitable filesystem after that :P
[09:02] <rvgate>  /j #guzzle-php
[09:02] <ServerSage> strigga: NTFS in linux is a gross abomination.
[09:02] <rvgate> oops :P
[09:03] <strigga> ServerSage: Hehe I got it - really :D
[09:04] <ServerSage> strigga: No really, yuck.
[09:04] <ServerSage> :P
[09:04] <strigga> ServerSage: I am a bit scared of re-syncing my 500some GB owncloud - so I will go for the repair-in.-windows option first. There is no way to convert ntfs to ext4, is it?
[09:05] <ServerSage> strigga: No, the only real way is to shrink the NTFS partition, create an EXT4, copy the data over, then delete the NTFS partiion, move the EXT4, and trim it.  Or, just back it up, format, and restore.  :P
[09:06] <strigga> ServerSage: Booo! :)
[09:06] <strigga> ServerSage: Thanks
[09:06] <ServerSage> 500gb isn't that much drive-to-drive.
[09:07] <n8lag> its a lot if u hafta typeit
[09:07] <strigga> ServerSage: Yeah I just hope that that buggy file does not cause the sync to start again :(
[09:07] <strigga> n8lag: 5  0  0  g  b  <-- naah - that was easy :P
[09:07] <ServerSage> n8lag: Huh?
[09:07] <n8lag> lol
[09:08] <n8lag> can yall help me with this dang lsi modem?
[09:09] <ServerSage> n8lag: Is this a 56k modem?
[09:09] <n8lag> i think so
[09:09] <ServerSage> n8lag: Oh sweet baby jesus, those still exist?
[09:10] <n8lag> yes jc himself used it
[09:10] <n8lag> i am text only.  dont need speed
[09:10] <jlmarks> ServerSage: ended up i just needed to wait for a moment and then type "exit" now to edit the grub settings. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=981159&p=6169849#post6169849)
[09:10] <ServerSage> n8lag: That's good, cuz you're not gonna get it .  lol.
[09:10] <ServerSage> n8lag: Sorry, I haven't set one up in ... a while.
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> n8lag: did you check additional drivers list, some modesm show up there
[09:11] <ServerSage> jlmarks: exit just gets you out of busybox.  Did it actually boot after that?
[09:11] <jlmarks> yeah :)
[09:12] <jlmarks> ServerSage: yes :)
[09:12] <ServerSage> jlmarks: Huh.  Interesting
[09:12] <n8lag> no but i wouldnt know what todo with the driver anyway
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> n8lag: install it?
[09:12] <n8lag> lol ya i could try that
[09:14] <n8lag> might be in here already for all i know
[09:14] <n8lag> oh well il circle back around
[09:15] <Harry8906> my laptop doesnot show ubuntu option in dual boot
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: win8 dualboot uefi install?
[09:16] <Harry8906> i installed it alongside win 7
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: do you see grub list?
[09:16] <Harry8906> lotuspsychje: no
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: can you try holding shift at boot to enter grub?
[09:17] <Hsaka> I have a question about ubuntu 14.04, what does the application "Online Account"? Does it gives you notifications?
[09:17] <Harry8906> i did that, it only shows win 7
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> Hsaka: you can online accounts to ubuntu, so they show in left bar
[09:17] <ubilli8> hi gues
[09:17] <strigga> ServerSage: Oh dear. I am doing a lot with automatized timelapse photogeaphy - there a literally millions of files - seems that my working day just came to an end :D
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: ans you installed ubuntu setup correctly?
[09:18] <ubilli8> i am trying to install gnome
[09:18] <ServerSage> strigga: Some would call that a win.
[09:18] <Harry8906> yes
[09:18] <ubilli8> because jhbuild says i should
[09:18] <Hsaka> ah i see, I thought it was notification like Mac
[09:18] <strigga> ServerSage: Weather is great so in a way: yes. On the other side, I am freelancer - so no work: no money :D
[09:19] <Harry8906> when i load buntu using bootable PD, it shows the drive in which ubuntu is installed
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Harry8906
[09:20] <ubilli8> this is mycode http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=3Z0RY7XV
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: not sure what went wrong, ubuntu not showing in grub thats weird
[09:21] <Harry8906> lotuspsychje: yep
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: you could make your life easy and install ubuntu clean and single drive, and install w7 inside virtualbox
[09:21] <ubilli8> i am trying to install gnome
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: this is a 14.04 install you tryed?
[09:22] <ubilli8> this is mycode http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=3Z0RY7XV
[09:22] <Harry8906> lotuspsychje: yeah it is
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: did you choose the dualboot option with w7 in setup?
[09:22] <Harry8906> where does it come
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: during setup of ubuntu, you can choose setup along side windows 7
[09:23] <Harry8906> lotuspsychje: i choose install alongside win 7
[09:23] <Harry8906> yes did that
[09:23] <ubilli8> i am trying to install gnome
[09:23] <ubilli8> this is mycode http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=3Z0RY7XV
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: well not sure then
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: can you still enter ubuntu in some way? sudo update-grub could fix maybe
[09:24] <Harry8906> reinstallation :(
[09:24] <Abhishek_> Is it normal for remaining battery to dip when I connect an external screen to my laptop. If a screen isn't connected it shows 3 hrs remain, but only 2 hrs with screen connected!
[09:25] <ubilli8> i am trying to install gnome   this is mycode http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=3Z0RY7XV
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: loose w7 once and for good mate, make your life easy with clean install 14.04
[09:25] <Pricey> Abhishek_: Sounds sensible to me? It takes electricity to drive a display?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Harry8906: ill help you with ubuntu alternative software afterwards
[09:25] <Abhishek_> Shouldn't it be the opposite if I switch off the laptop's own LCD and connect an external screen?
[09:25] <Pricey> Abhishek_: Only stands to reason that power is saved if there's no display connected.
[09:25] <Harry8906> can't loose win 7
[09:25] <Pricey> Abhishek_: Ah so you're questioning why using an external display uses more power than the built-in one?
[09:26] <Abhishek_> yes
[09:26] <Harry8906> i am not only user to use it, i wanted it for development
[09:26] <strigga> Abhishek_: Same resolution?
[09:26] <Abhishek_> Pricey: yes
[09:26] <Abhishek_> 1920x1080 , laptop's 1366x768
[09:27] <strigga> Well: More pixels, more power to the graphics card (that's a wild guess, but is logical, isn't it?)
[09:27] <Abhishek_> In Windows, I remember getting more backup with lid down and external display connected. The laptop (has hybrid graphics ATI/Intel, I force to Intel)
[09:29] <Abhishek_> strigga: Okay, I agree to the points but why Windows shows more available battery life?
[09:29] <Abhishek_> with internal screen off?
[09:30] <ubilli8> i am trying to install gnome   this is mycode http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=3Z0RY7XV
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Abhishek_: you could doublecheck dconf-editor settings for energy
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> ubilli8: is gnome-shell what you trying to install?
[09:30] <strigga> Abhishek_: It's probably a driver issue. Most Graphics windows drivers are very well optimized (more customers)
[09:31] <k1l_> ubilli8: do you have PPAs enabled?
[09:31] <ubilli8> gtk+ 3
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell | ubilli8
 please what are the PPAS
[09:32] <k1l_> ubilli8: please pastebin the output of "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[09:32] <strigga> Abhishek_: I have the same issue with my laptop - on windows the battery lasts a lot longer than on ubuntu. As I am hardly working off a power plug, I found it worth it
[09:32] <ubilli8> on gtk-3 manual they said i shoud do this jhbuild sanitycheck
 http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=qjzAdhrE
[09:34] <Abhishek_> strigga lotuspsychje : yes, I understand. I'm currently running ATI/Intel fglrx driver and forced it to Intel mode. I installed dconf-editor but it gives me an error: (dconf-editor:2858): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[09:35] <Ugb3> Hey guys, I'll maybe sound stupid but I just can't fill a bug repport on lauchpad, the only "report a bug" link take me to the wiki but I don't have any way to actually fill a report exept from ubuntu itself... anyone could point me the right direction ?
[09:36] <ubilli8> on  GTK+ 3 manual they said i sould install jhbuild
[09:36] <k1l_> ubilli8: seems like one of those PPAs interfers with another libwebkitgtk package. so it blocks your install
[09:37] <Abhishek_> never mind, I was trying that on an SSH to my board, so that warning
[09:38] <Abhishek_> lotuspsychje: Where to look in dconf-editor?
[09:39] <luca124> ciao
[09:39] <luca124> !list
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !it | luca124
 so waht do i do???
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> Abhishek_: org/gnome/settings-deamon/plugins/power
[09:45] <liuchong> ok
[09:46] <jacobian> Ok, just going to ask again regarding compose key on Ubuntu 14.04
[09:46] <Abhishek_> lotuspsychje: which option to look for in that tab?
[09:46] <jacobian> It only seems to work in some windows, and not in others
[09:46] <ubilli8>  <k1l_> so what do i do???
[09:46] <jacobian> Is there a way to make it uniform in all windows?
[09:47] <jacobian> Previously, on 13 it was uniform
[09:52] <likecolacola> Hey... i need a little advice.. when i make python scripts and try to execute them through the GUI, the desktop ask me if i want to run it through a terminal... the thing is that if i tell gnome in dconfig-editor to execute stuff without asking then it doesnt open the terminal and dont execute the code at all..
[10:03] <ubilli8> please support my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/470014/gnome-issue-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:03] <RubixRex> please get somebody to cloak  my IP
[10:03] <RubixRex> RAWWWW
[10:04] <DJones> RubixRex: You'd need to ask about a cloak in #freenode
[10:04] <RubixRex> yea, nobody ever active
[10:04] <RubixRex> ever
[10:05] <ubilli8> please support my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/470014/gnome-issue-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:05] <colin_> hi...i  want to ask a question.does anyone use nodejs?
[10:06] <ubilli8> please support my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/470014/gnome-issue-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:07] <ubilli8> please support my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/470014/gnome-issue-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:07] <Riddell> !help | ubilli8
[10:08] <ubilli8> !patience
[10:09] <jonny> ubilli8: Step one, remove the package from the cache, step 2, try to reinstall.
  please is it the gnome i should remove
[10:10] <jonny> ubilli8: No, that's installed fine according to your pastes.
[10:10] <jonny> ubilli8: You're having problems with libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
[10:11] <jonny> Sounds like the downloaded package is potentially corrupt.
  yes  libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
[10:12] <jonny> apt-get clean should remove all cached downloaded .deb package.
[10:12] <jonny> Not sure what else it does...
[10:12] <ubilli8> so i should do a apt-get clean

[10:13] <jonny> Why are you wrapping nicks in <> :/
[10:13] <jonny> You can do, or you could potentially remove the file specifically from /var/cache/apt/archives iirc
[10:16] <citrix> hiii
[10:23] <Kovica> Up to 12.04 there was alternate installation where you could modify the installation process via d-i settings. There is no such thing in 14.04. How can I set stuff like username, timezone, .... so the installation is more automatic?
[10:43] <BananaManUbuntu> hi there, I have bought a blackberry and I need to reload the OS on it as it's stuck on the vodafone logo. how can I do that on ubuntu 14.04?
[10:43] <BananaManUbuntu> google is showing linberry but it's no longer supported :(
[10:47] <bazhang> http://sourceforge.net/projects/barry/   BananaManUbuntu
[10:48] <BananaManUbuntu> yeah, the OS has crashed and it's stuck at the vodafone logo, could I restore the OS with barry?
[10:48] <jost> I'm getting this on a 14.04 server, when I log in via SSH: "/dev/foo should be checked for errors". How do I trigger that check? Maybe on every boot?
[10:52] <BananaManUbuntu> so basically can I restore it to factory settings with barry? as the OS on it is messed up?
[10:53] <OerHeks> jost, terminal: touch /forcefsck # this will make an emty file forcefsck that will trigger fsck next reboot  ( and will be deleted )
[10:54] <jost> OerHeks: ok, and if I want fsck on every boot? (Its a server, won't be rebooted very often)
[10:54] <OerHeks> jost i don't know how to do that, why would you want that?
[10:55] <jost> OerHeks: just to increase robustness a bit by finding problems early
[10:56] <OerHeks> maybe you can make this in a bash script
[11:01] <naman> hi
[11:01] <bitbuzzer> hi. I'm running ubuntu 13.10, and I need to add multiverse apt repo to my /etc/apt/sources.list but I can't find the correct entry
[11:04] <IdleOne> bitbuzzer: it would look something like "deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse" of course the actual url for the repo would be different for you and the version (trusty) would also be different.
[11:05] <IdleOne> bitbuzzer: or like deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
[11:05] <IdleOne> without the -src part
[11:06] <IdleOne> bitbuzzer: but I suggest you go through the Software Center and enable the multiverse repo from there
[11:16] <simpleuser> Hi there. I can see in .ssh/authorized_keys the public ssh key (normal) and at last, user@host
[11:17] <simpleuser> If I keep the same key on a different system, with a different username or host… Will it still work?
[11:17] <jrib> simpleuser: yes
[11:17] <simpleuser> Or should I change the user@host in authorized keys ?
[11:17] <jrib> simpleuser: user@host is just a note about the key
[11:17] <sahilsk> Hi all
[11:17] <simpleuser> jrib: Cool. Then why it is there ?
[11:18] <sahilsk> how to add or remove entry from /etc/services?
[11:18] <simpleuser> jrib: Oh, maybe to read more easily where the key comes from?
[11:18] <IdleOne> exactly
[11:18] <jrib> simpleuser: yes
[11:18] <sahilsk> i am using xinetd and trying to create service. Just don't knwo how to update /etc/services file. any help would be great.
[11:18] <simpleuser> Ok, cool. Thanks :)
[11:33] <Kovica> anyone? please.
[11:34] <IdleOne> please what?
[11:44] <IdleOne> Kovica: from what I am seeing in my search it looks like you may need to use the Lubuntu Alternate install image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ and edit your preseed file to install the desktop packages you want (ubuntu-desktop,kubuntu-desktop...)
[11:46] <IdleOne> Kovica: or use the ubuntu server iso and install a GUI
[11:51] <bah_> hi.... is it anybody here that have a Mac US keyboard ?   I should really need some help
[11:53] <napcode> bah_: yes
[11:53] <Kovica> IdleOne: Thanks... Do ouy perhaps know if lubuntu will keep the alternate co?
[11:53] <lmat> I just upgraded to 14.04, and I'm having some trouble with my desktop environment. There area few things, and I'm hoping they're all related and have the same fix ^_^
[11:53] <IdleOne> Kovica: as far as I can tell it seems they will, things can change there too
[11:54] <lmat> When typing into the console, I often get artifacts, specifically, missing characters. This happens if I type while the cursor is absent (it blinks on and off, when I type when it's off, the characters don't show up, but they really are typed)
[11:55] <lmat> Also, I use cairo dock and compiz (unity). I turned on "Negative" plugin. When I negate the entire screen, the area around cairo-dock shows a white background (covering everything else up)
[11:55] <Kovica> IdleOne: OK, thanks for now :) You've been a great help
[11:55] <IdleOne> Kovica: you're welcome
[11:55] <lmat> The pixels placed by cairo-dock are transparent. I'm guessing that negate is negating the alpha channel, too (making them opaque, and white) :(
[11:56] <lmat> Also, I used to have the ubuntu bar on the top of the screen (without the launcher on the left side) when running cairo-dock
[11:56] <lmat> It was an option on the login screen. Now it's not an option, and I don't have the bar.
[11:56] <lmat> Any suggestions? ^_^
[11:56] <rafaelement> Imat: you hould try going to system settings -> screens and see whether there is a ssecond, invisible screen there. if yes, disable it
[11:56] <bah_> napcode, are you able to type symbols by holding down your right-alt key (or something) ?
[11:58] <napcode> bah_: I don't have the keyboard in front of me right now but I think so. using "setxkbmap YOUR_LANG -variant mac" works for me
[11:59] <napcode> bah_: in X11 that is
[12:04] <TheBlindOwl> How to find what's my cpu and its ghz amount
[12:05] <Rory> TheBlindOwl: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:06] <rafaelement> TheBlindOwl: better: system control(or similar) in the dash
[12:07] <TheBlindOwl> ok thanks guys. how is this cpu? : http://susepaste.org/view/raw/6b2bca0e
[12:07] <bah_> napcode_,  do you know what to replace  "variant mac" with in " "setxkbmap us  -variant mac"" ?    I have a macbook 7.1 late 2010
[12:09] <bah_> napcode_, oh that seems to be the command http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33528/setxkbmap-for-macbook-pro-us     .. wait
[12:09] <napcode_> bah_: what do you mean?
[12:10] <napcode_> bah_: yes it is. your example should do the trick
[12:10] <justme123> Hi guys I am one step closer to installing Ubuntu server on my HP Proliant ML150 G2 server.
[12:10] <justme123> Yesterday I could not get it to boot the ISO at all.
[12:10] <compdoc> justme123, been having problems?
[12:11] <justme123> I found out it is a faulty IDE and I used a USB DVD drive that sucessfully installed Ubuntu
[12:11] <bah_> napcode_,  "setxkbmap -layout us -variant mac"  returns "Error loading new keyboard description"
[12:11] <alt_> hello
[12:11] <alt_> can some body help me here
[12:12] <justme123> compdoc the problem that I have now is after booting from the HDD I get a meae "cannot Display The Video Mode". Is there a way to lower the resolution or interrupt the boot process to get to a command prompt?
[12:12] <Seveas> !anyone | alt_
[12:12] <alt_> i cannot make a wirless hotspot in ubuntu using ap-hotspot
[12:13] <compdoc> justme123, there might be, but I dont know how. does it have onboard video? maybe if you gave it a bit more ram
[12:13] <justme123> I think it is trying to initialise a graphical interface at a resolution not supported by my video card.
[12:13] <Seveas> hmm, the bot's supposed to say "just ask your question" :)
[12:13] <napcode_> alt_: Don't ask to ask. Just ask your question. Otherwise people can't know whether they can help you.
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Seveas sadly "anyone" has been retired.
[12:13] <justme123> I think the video card is onboard yes.
[12:13] <DJones> Seveas: That one was deleted a month or so back
[12:14] <Seveas> cfhowlett: well that's bloody useless...
[12:14] <justme123> I have 8GB memory on the server so I will check if it is possible to rout some to the GPU
[12:14] <alt_> i cannnot make wirless hotspot using ap-hotspot am using ubuntu 14.04 i tried every best possible way
[12:14] <Beldar> Seveas, been a few changes you can check here before posting one if needed. http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=wifi
[12:18] <alt_> hey
[12:18] <alt_> ....................................................
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !patience|alt_
[12:19] <nicferrier> I am having trouble with networkmanager and openvpn, so I'm trying to run openvpn from the command line and I want to alter the network manager dns. I don't seem able to. does anyone know if I can?
[12:20] <napcode_> bah_: hmm, try the verbosity flags. something like "setxkbmap us -variant mac -v -v -v -v"
[12:21] <Seveas> nicferrier: you can, sort of. You'll need to call the dnsmasq dbus method to change nameservers
[12:23] <KGM70> 0/
[12:25] <bah_> napcode_, maybe something is wrong on my system ?    "setxkbmap us -variant mac -v -v -v -v"  return  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6968736065db28c99207
[12:26] <r0x> hi guys
[12:27] <r0x> i have some problems with nvidia drivers on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[12:27] <liran> funny!
[12:27] <bah_> napcode_, or maybe I have a different keyboard ?   I don't have a numpad on my keyboard   but most mac users don't right ?
[12:28] <r0x> whenever i enable them, my screen freezes and i can't do nothing
[12:28] <r0x> i must login (e.g. in tty1) and kill 'em all
[12:29] <r0x> why the hell it happens?
[12:30] <napcode_> bah_: did you try the keyboard settings in unity?
[12:30] <phyzloc> r0x: When I installed nvidia drivers from Software Update GUI, Unity stoped working. But when I installed it using apt-get install nvidia-current it worked.. weird :-/
[12:31] <humbolt> Anybody fit with openvswitch?
[12:31] <nicferrier> Seveas: hmmm. that's interesting. I tried adding a local config file to the /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d dir but that didn't work. do you know of any doc about using dbus to do it?
[12:33] <bah_> napcode_, I actually running xubuntu but nobody answer the question in #xubuntu so I asked here instead : )
[12:33] <r0x> phyzloc: ok, i will try using apt-get
[12:33] <r0x> thanks
[12:33] <phyzloc> r0x: np, hope it works
[12:33] <Seveas> nicferrier: http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/DBus-interface
[12:33] <napcode_> bah_: well, did you try the system settings there?
[12:35] <bhad> I have apt-get installed lamp-server^ . The webserver seems to work, as well as php when using a .php file and surfing to that. But <?php echo "something"; ?> does not. Why is this?
[12:35] <nicferrier> Seveas: thanks!
[12:36] <Seveas> bhad: you may need to a2enmod php
[12:37] <bhad> Seveas, sudo a2enmod php says it's aleady enabled
[12:37] <Thorneo_> :-D
[12:39] <bah_> napcode_, yes,  I am able to select swedish or a us layout but the left-alt+something only work in swedish
[12:39] <bah_> *in swedish      in the swedish keyboard layout
[12:42] <bah_> napcode_,   I mean right-alt+something    not left-alt+something     .. I am tired
[12:43] <bhad> Seveas, I've tried disabling and enabling php5 with a2enmod and a2dismod. Restarted Apache and everyhing. problem presists
[12:43] <bah_> napcode_, shit have to go...comming back
[12:44] <sl33k_> What does this do "Enable opening files and projects from command line" in Pycharm?
[12:45] <sl33k_> What is script path usr/local/bin/charm ?
[12:45] <sl33k_> in Settings
[12:48] <rooted> is there a ubuntu version for raspberry pi ?
[12:48] <compdoc> I think there is
[12:48] <compdoc> or maybe its debian
[12:48] <phyzloc> rooted: what do you use your raspberry pi for?
[12:49] <sara77> ciao
[12:49] <sara77> !list
[12:49] <rooted> phyzloc , am tring to work on an OCR project.
[12:49] <Pici> rooted: There is no Ubuntu version, but there is a debian (raspian iirc) release.
[12:50] <sara77> list
[12:50] <geirha> Ubuntu doesn't support the pi's arch
[12:50] <red45923> running ubuntu open audacity message = it is already open  - but system monitor does not show it, is there another way to kill the crashed audacity?
[12:50] <rooted> Pici , OCR - Optical character Recolonization
[12:50] <phyzloc> rooted: Ok, I was just curious :-)
[12:51] <rooted> but Ubuntu supports cubieboard and beaglebone
[12:51] <cfhowlett> red45923 ps -x | grep audacity            then kill -9 the pid number
[12:51] <skinkitten> I want to mv a bunch of files with the same name having different extensions. except one. file-name.* gets all of them. how can I take out the extension .css
[12:52] <sara77> !list
[12:52] <skinkitten> ?
[12:53] <OerHeks> rooted, join #ubuntu-arm i guess
[12:53] <red45923> cfhowlett, did that + got the pid num, but $kill -9 5468 outputs 'no such process'
[12:54] <OerHeks> !arm
[12:54] <cfhowlett> red45923 so then audacity is NOT running ...
[12:55] <rooted> Oerheks thanks
[12:55] <red45923> cfhowlett, tell that to my system: "The system has detected that another copy of Audacity is running."
[12:56] <cfhowlett> red45923 makes no sense.  log out.  log in.  test
[12:57] <red45923> cfhowlett, yep rebooting will fix it i am sure, or maybe nuclear option of uninstall/reinstall, just thought there might be another way that i didn't know, thx for trying
[12:59] <Ghaleon> are the apt-get mirros down?
[12:59] <red45923> reboot it is, fingers crossed
[13:00] <ikonia> Ghaleon: which ones ?
[13:00] <ikonia> Ghaleon: you can always verify with http
[13:00] <Ghaleon> http://mirrors.service.networklayer.com
[13:00] <Ghaleon> seems down been down for two days
[13:01] <Ghaleon> how do i switch so i can update ?
[13:01] <ikonia> Ghaleon: I'm not aware of that mirror, the easy answer is to change your sources.list file (or better still use the software sources tool) to point at a different mirror
[13:03] <red45923> reboot rules !! audacity is back to normal :)
[13:03] <cfhowlett> red45923 when all else fails ...
[13:05] <aaa801> so, just installed ubuntu 14 on a proline w76s, screen res is locked at a lower resolution with no highers avilable, should be 1366 x 768 but its at 640*480
[13:05] <aaa801> intel intregraded
[13:06] <Ghaleon> where is a good list of rep mirrors to add?
[13:06] <Ghaleon> not having luck with the four i added
[13:07] <Seveas> Ghaleon: you should only need archive.ubuntu.com or yourcountrycode.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:07] <Ghaleon> i mean in /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:08] <makara> hi. how to use transfer files to Kindle Fire HDX from Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:12] <khax> pricey
[13:12] <Ghaleon> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted
[13:12] <Seveas> makara: google suggest using gmtp
[13:12] <Ghaleon> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted
[13:12] <Ghaleon> those don’t work either
[13:12] <Ghaleon> does not connect
[13:12] <Ghaleon> and http works
[13:13] <Ghaleon> something is wrong
[13:13] <Seveas> work just fine for me, the problem must be local to your system
[13:13] <aaa801> ok the spec sheet lies, it is not a intel graphics
[13:14] <makara> Seveas, it works as root
[13:14] <ory> hallo
[13:14] <aaa801> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[13:14] <bah_> napcode_  still here ?  I had to catch a buss and then I got some issue that forced me to reboot, sorry for that and  I hope I did not miss any answer ?
[13:14] <NewUserLinux> Can someone answer (or point me to a guide) on how to save my wingpanel and plank setup to be the default for future new users when their account is created?
[13:14] <aaa801> time to play.. find that kernel driver
[13:14] <makara> on my other machine the device shows up in Nautilus. Can't remember what I did
[13:14] <makara> without root
[13:14] <napcode_> bah_: np
[13:15] <Seveas> aaa801: ooh, I dind't know SiS still made video chips...
[13:15] <aaa801> mhm =/
[13:15] <makara> NewUserLinux, what is wingpanel?
[13:15] <aaa801> Seveas: any ideas on finding a driver for it ;D
[13:16] <Seveas> aaa801: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362792/how-to-install-sis-771-671-video-drivers-on-13-10
[13:16] <NewUserLinux> @makara top panel that holds indicators, application menu, etc.
[13:17] <aaa801> Seveas: its installed.. its just giving me shody resolutions
[13:17] <aaa801> locked to 640*480
[13:17] <aaa801> should be getting 1366 x 768
[13:19] <Seveas> aaa801: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455888/low-resolution-on-lubuntu-14-04-sis
[13:19] <estudiante> Hola
[13:19] <wilhelm1> Something is forwarding all of the http connections to https and it is likely firefox, what is an alternate browser for quantal?
[13:20] <wilhelm1> Is there a package for mosaic?
[13:20] <Seveas> wilhelm1: firefox doesn't automatically do that. Maybe if you use something like the https-everywhere extension, but not vanilla firefox.
[13:21] <Seveas> there's no package for mosaic, given that it's utterly obsolete. You can try chomium though
[13:21] <wilhelm1> Seveas: it looks to be compiled in to this local firefox version.
[13:22] <Seveas> wilhelm1: well, if you're not using ubuntu-provided packages, there's not much we can do to help
[13:23] <wilhelm1> Seveas: Ubuntu provides 'vanilla' firefox?
[13:23] <wilhelm1> Seveas: no
[13:24] <aaa801> mhm, https://gitorious.org/xf86-video-sis671
[13:27] <wilhelm1> Seveas: Where is the Ubuntu 'vanilla' firefox package?
[13:28] <Seveas> wilhelm1: there is no such thing.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> wilhelm1 its in the repositories.  use software center
[13:28] <wilhelm1> Seveas: Where may one obtain a 'vanilla' software cd
[13:28] <Seveas> cfhowlett: a 'vanilla' firefox? I thought Ubuntu only shipped firefox with its own patches and extensions?
[13:29] <Seveas> wilhelm1: nowhere.
[13:29] <ikonia> what's not vanilla about it /
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Seveas ah, THAT >>> download from mozilla.org
[13:29] <wilhelm1> Agent Smith is a lie
[13:30] <ikonia> whitenite: ? how is that anything to with ubuntu ?
[13:30] <ikonia> what's not vanilla about the firefox package the ubuntu ships ?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> ikonia apparently he objects to the Ubuntu branding ...
[13:30] <ikonia> what ubuntu branding ?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> ikonia "ubuntu help > ubuntu shop > ubuntu community    and the logo
[13:31] <Seveas> ikonia: vanilla in this context usually means unchanged
[13:31] <Seveas> and Ubuntu applies some patches during build
[13:31] <ikonia> but most of them are bugfix patches ?
[13:31] <ikonia> and things to change the default web page
[13:32] <ikonia> it's not really an issue unless they do some well hidden stuff that I've not seen
[13:32] <Seveas> ikonia: and the Ubuntu-provided extensions
[13:32] <ikonia> that's a seperate package though isn't it ?
[13:32] <ikonia> rather than in the firefox base package
[13:33] <Seveas> looks like they're in the base package
[13:33] <ikonia> dissapointing
[13:33] <ikonia> not the end of the world though
[13:33] <whoever> so what is the issue of the day
[13:33] <Seveas> anyway, none of this causes what wilhelm1 is seeing, so we're wasting our time with him :)
[13:33] <Seveas> whoever: global warming
[13:34] <wilhelm1> Seveas: it is possible that something like https is added to the package
[13:34] <wilhelm1> https-everywhere
[13:35] <Seveas> wilhelm1: no.
[13:35] <saleem> hi, i cant find python-compizconfig package on repos, is it me only or is this package actually missing from repos?
[13:35] <wilhelm1> Seveas: it is
[13:35] <Pricey> !info python-compizconfig
[13:35] <Pricey> saleem: It's there ^
[13:36] <Pricey> saleem: Did you look in universe?
[13:36] <saleem> thanks i will check it
[13:38] <wilhelm1> Seveas: What else are we going to do with our time?
[13:39] <jnhghy> when I want to use teamviewer9 for the first time after I start my computer I get an error message asking me to run "sudo teamviewer --daemon start" in a terminal, is there a way to make this daemon start automatically when my computer starts or when I try to run teamviewer? if there is a way, which is it?
[13:40] <brianblaze420> anyone know how to boot ubuntu into ibook g4? I have tried a usb and the openfirmware way and nothing tried to boot a live dvd... nothing :(
[13:40] <Seveas> jhattara_: add this to /etc/rc.local: teamviewer --daemon start
[13:41] <whoever> jnhghy: yes what Seveas said
[13:42] <jnhghy> whoever: thanks... would never seen Seveas reply without you :), Seveas thanks!
[13:42] <aaa801> right, thats the resolution sorted
[13:42] <aaa801> now for the .. wifi
[13:42] <whoever> brianblaze420: all computers have a bios and a boot order, learn  how to ender bios or select your boot order if you don't  know already
[13:43] <brianblaze420> I am not new to booting I am new to booting on this G4 which is like nothing I have tried before
[13:43] <whoever> jnhghy: np
[13:43] <StR> hi everyone!!  Is it possible to change the engine used as browser for the webapps?
[13:43] <aaa801> :s.. lspci doesn't output any wifi stuff..
[13:43] <brianblaze420> my g4 doesn't see the bootable dvd nor does it boot the efi set-up usb
[13:44] <cfhowlett> StR of course.
[13:44] <aaa801> great
[13:44] <whoever> brianblaze420: it should work the same as any other
[13:44] <StR> cfhowlett, how can I do that?
[13:44] <brianblaze420> u would think but apple is special
[13:44] <cfhowlett> StR install alternate browser, set system settings defaults
[13:45] <StR> cfhowlett, I tried looking for any config menu,  launched the wewebapp-container --help, wuthout success
[13:45] <lenny> om..
[13:45] <DJones> aaa801: Its not something as something as simple as being a usb wifi device is it? Maybe try lsusb just to make sure
[13:45] <StR> cfhowlett, no, not changing the web default browser... the engine used inside the webapp-container
[13:45] <Wnt> brianblaze420: what happens when you hold down C key when booting the machine? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#How_do_I_get_a_Mac_to_boot_from_CD.3F
[13:45] <cfhowlett> StR no way you can't change the browser.  sadly, I'm on xubuntu so I don't know the exact sequence.  ask in channel.
[13:45] <aaa801> eah, its a realtek chip
[13:45] <aaa801> then why the balls isn't it loaded..
[13:46] <aaa801> rtl8187b
[13:46] <whoever> brianblaze420: check this out the boot is not what you expect https://discussions.apple.com/message/22727589
[13:46] <aaa801> and.. after that lsusb it just started working
[13:46] <brianblaze420> c doesn't do anything but if I hold down alt/option I think that's my boot menu where i can see bootable things but all i see is the hard drive not the dvd
[13:46] <whoever> brianblaze420: ya special ... ed
[13:47] <whoever>  brianblaze420 then try a retail os disk to make usre its not the drive
[13:47] <Wnt> brianblaze420: is th DVD drive functional?
[13:47] <brianblaze420> true true
[13:47] <brianblaze420> gotta use the brain
[13:47] <brianblaze420> lol
[13:47] <brianblaze420> brb
[13:47] <Sangram> Hello ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I need help I want to do dual boot in my laptop having windows 8.1 ,,,,,,,,,,,,i tried my best to do that but nothing happens actually i'm unable to find grub menu ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Plz tell me what to do now
[13:48]  * aaa801 smacks Sangram for overuse of commas
[13:48] <aaa801> Sangram: i think you need to turn off the fastboot shit from windows 8 for that
[13:48] <NuSuey> damn, how can I decrease my performance in linux, so my CPU cooler don't needs to be going so fast? :P (a GUI-based app would be great)
[13:48] <aaa801> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452071/why-disable-fast-boot-on-windows-8-when-having-dual-booting
[13:48] <Sangram>  Because i m getting mad i'm trying to install ubuntu since 4 weeks
[13:49] <aaa801> welcome to the world of shittally implemented uefi
[13:49] <whoever> Sangram: if one hardrive install windows first , and partition your drive to two logical then install win to 1 and linux to 2
[13:49] <aaa801> whoever: sounsd more like a bootloader issue
[13:49] <cfhowlett> aaa801 no need for profanity - and not permitted in channel.  thank you.
[13:49] <Sangram> I done that too but nothing happened
[13:49] <aaa801> well its true ;)
[13:50] <whoever> Sangram: you will need to how to manualy partition
[13:50] <aaa801> Sangram: tryed running ubuntu boot repair wizard
[13:50] <StR> hi everyone!!  Is it possible to change the engine used as browser for the webapps?  the webapps are launched in  a different browser, not allowing me to right click, copy texts, paste, spellchecking or nothing I can do with firefox.. how do I  change that "ubuntu browser"  for firefox?
[13:50] <aaa801> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:50] <Sangram> what is that ubuntu boot repair wizard
[13:50] <aaa801> the info that thing dumps out will help anywho
[13:50] <aaa801> just linked you
[13:51] <whoever> aaa801: i have seen the same words and realy what they want is to do is set up a dual boot , but it won't work because they did something wrong with the install
[13:51] <aaa801> mhm
[13:58] <brianblaze420> okay... so good or bad my G4 can see the osx install disk
[13:59] <brianblaze420> need... to... install... linux... lol
[14:00] <NewUserLinux> how can i save my current user setup (wingpanel & plank) to be the default when new users are created
[14:01] <wheatthin> NewUserLinux, perhaps by changing the default skeleton to reflect what you want active...
[14:02] <NewUserLinux> @wheatthin what file would edit to change the default skeleton? Using Elementary OS
[14:03] <NewUserLinux> @wheatthin would the dconfconfig tool work for that?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> NewUserLinux elementary OS is not supported here
[14:03] <neccs_admin_> whoever: Good morning whoever
[14:04] <NewUserLinux> @cfhowlett it is based on Ubuntu, so I figured it would be a similar procedure
[14:04] <neccs_admin_> whoever: I wanted to thank you for your help last week with clonezilla.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !flavor|NewUserLinux we can only support the canonical products listed
[14:04] <neccs_admin_> whoever: after imaging the workstations I had no problem shutting them down.
[14:04] <k1l_> NewUserLinux: we dont know what elementary changed all. so please ask the specialists
[14:05] <k1l_> NewUserLinux: especially in the appearance things elementary is changing a lot.
[14:06] <NewUserLinux> @cfhowlett @k1l_ @ubottu thanks for the replies, I will investigate further
[14:06] <brianblaze420> aha it seems i need powerpc iso's
[14:06] <cfhowlett> NewUserLinux look in #elementary
[14:06] <brianblaze420> ill try that
[14:11] <mitch-_> how do i get usb devices to NOT auto-mount/lock to launcher in 14.04?
[14:11] <mitch-_> i had it off in 12.04
[14:12] <skinux> Anyone know how to play Audible audio files using Linux?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> skinux those are .aac files, no?
[14:14] <Sangram> Hello ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I need help I want to do dual boot in my laptop having windows 8.1 ,,,,,,,,,,,,i tried my best to do that but nothing happens actually i'm unable to find grub menu ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Plz tell me what to do now
[14:14] <cfhowlett> Sangram PLEASE kill your comma key
[14:15] <Sangram> ya ,,,,but what should i do i'm getting mad just because of windows
[14:15] <Sangram> plz help me
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !patience|Sangram
[14:15] <BananaManLinux> hi
[14:16] <Sangram> ok my question is i wanna do dual boot in my lap having windows 8.1
[14:16] <cfhowlett> Sangram how much ram?
[14:17] <Sangram> 4 gb
[14:17] <cfhowlett> Sangram install virtualbox to windows.  create a new vbox computer.  install 32 bit lubuntu or xubuntu to vbox
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Sangram that is the easy and quick way to get *buntu
[14:18] <Sangram> sry but i want proper windows
[14:18] <Sangram> too
[14:18] <k1l_> !dualboot | Sangram
[14:19] <k1l_> Sangram: for better help tell exactly where you have issue or errormessages.
[14:19] <piroux> hello
[14:19] <Sangram> kll i hav installed ubuntu but after restarting m not getting grub menu
[14:20] <wols_> Sangram: what do you get?
[14:20] <Sangram> wols windows was starting directly
[14:20] <k1l_> Sangram: are you sure ubuntu is installed?
[14:20] <k1l_> Sangram: did you install ubuntu into own partitions?
[14:20] <piroux> i am currently with blocked with an issue about install preseeding and ubiquity
[14:22] <wols_> Sangram: then show us the screenshot of diskmgmt.msc
[14:22] <Sangram> wols sry i dont hav now
[14:22] <wols_> don't have what now?
[14:22] <Sangram> kll i installed it inti saperate partitions
[14:23] <k1l_> !rootirc | root
[14:23] <k1l_> Sangram: what OS are you on now?
[14:23] <piroux> nor copying file from the install media (usb) to /target
[14:23] <Sangram> kll windows 8.1
[14:24] <k1l_> Sangram: well i would suggest to load a ubuntu-cd or ubuntu-usb-drive and install grub again into the first disk /dev/sda into the MBR
[14:25] <Sangram> ok i'll try that too
[14:25] <bah_> hi ... I am now using the live DVD but are still unable to type symbols,   why so !  this driving me mad
[14:25] <Sangram> thanx for your reply
[14:27] <bah_> I have a macbook 7.1 with a US English keyboard  http://superuser.com/questions/184041/macbook-pro-keyboard-localization-for-development-us-english-vs-international
[14:28] <bah_> no other US macbook owners that can confirm this behavior/bug  ?
[14:29] <holstein> bah_: doesnt seem like a volunteer with your exact hardware set is here... i have a macbook, and its not the same version, and i can confirm that i do *not* have that issue
[14:31] <walidvb_> hi guys, getting a '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL'
[14:31] <walidvb_> running 14.04, installed qt-devel
[14:31] <bah_> holstein, to type symbols do you use the right-alt key ?  what kind of mac keyboard do you have?  US/Europe  ?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> seems weird to pay the apple-tax then not use MacOS. Aple laughing all the way to the bank
[14:31] <walidvb_> and libdl-dev
[14:31] <walidvb_> any idea? can't find anything online
[14:33] <holstein> bah_: im the kind of guy who will just go copy/paste things in that i need, if i have issues with hardware not supporting linux
[14:33] <ez1> hi
[14:34] <ez1> Please, has someone installed XEN under ubuntu ?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ez1: many have
[14:34] <ez1> Id like to make a question
[14:35] <ez1> Suppose I install XEN under ubuntu, and I also create a VM for windows xp and I install all the software. Now, I go to another PC with different hardware, I also install XEN under ubuntu: can I copy the VM and it will work??
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !details|ez1
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ez1: yes
[14:35] <ez1> this is because I would like to make a hardware abstraction of an image i will have
[14:35] <bah_> holstein, I use to do that as well but the reason I ask is that I want to remap some keys and need somthing I can remap.  Do you use the alt-right+something to get the symbol map ?
[14:36] <ez1> because i will have several computers and I would like to has only one guest per machine
[14:36] <ez1> as far as i understand ActionParsnip: with XEN i need to deal with hardware drivers but only for the HOST
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ez1: does it use abstracted / virtaulized hardware?
[14:37] <holstein> bah_: i had no issues, on that hardware, mapping as needed.. but, my needs may not be the same as yours
[14:38] <ez1> ActionParsnip: I dont understand sorry, can you give me some detail ?
[14:38] <ez1> i would do this to avoid to install all the software in different hardware
[14:39] <bah_> holstein, so if I understand you correctly you can type for example right-alt+g and you get some kind of symbol printed ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ez1: is the video card fake and not reported as the one you actually have in your system? for example
[14:40] <ez1> so the idea would be, for the first computer: install ubuntu --> install XEN 32 bits --> create a virtual machine for windows XP and install all the software, boot from grub the VM. In all the other machines --> install ubuntu --> install XEN 32 bits --> COPY THE IMAGE i previously created.
[14:40] <ez1> ActionParsnip: i dont know because i did not make anything yet
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ez1: if the hardware is virtualized then it doesnt matter what host it is on
[14:41] <bah_> yes I guess I need to find somebody with a mac using a US keyboard...nobody here  ?
[14:41] <ez1> ActionParsnip: the hardware would be virtualized, but XEN need to be installed in a specific hardware
[14:42] <ez1> would it be possible to simply clone it ?
[14:42] <StR> hi everyone!!  Is it possible to change the engine used as browser for the webapps?  the webapps are launched in  a different browser, not allowing me to right click, copy texts, paste, spellchecking or nothing I can do with firefox.. how do I  change that "ubuntu browser"  for firefox?
[14:42] <bah_> * US keyboard   US mac-keyboard
[14:44] <holstein> bah_: its a *much* older macbook that i dont have in front of me.. so, i have no way of testing that specific scenario.. but, yes, i was able to map as needed
[14:44] <holstein> bah_: try mapping to other combos.. try mapping other simpler things..
[14:45] <kashajim> newbie question: just installed linux mint 17, wireless network is not activated. How to get it on?
[14:45] <holstein> kashajim: as mint support.. otherwise
[14:45] <holstein> !wifi
[14:45] <bah_> holstein, I see, thanks for your effort to help. I guess I need to find somebody with the same hardware
[14:45] <holstein> kashajim: those documents may apply
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> kashajim: mint isnt supported here, this is Ubuntu support
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !mint | kashajim
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> lpstat
[14:49] <bah_> holstein, I don't have  keys to remap : )  I use them all and now I want to add support for Swedish umlauts
[14:51] <bah_> ok,, have to leave. will come back later
[14:51] <te_> http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/21/5737914/ebay-will-ask-all-customers-to-change-passwords-after-massive-breach
[14:55] <wheatthin> sorry, losing concentration.. my dog was just poisoned.. but you can edit the /etc/skel with any text editor like gedit using gksudo
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> wheatthin: in Trusty you can use sudo with GUI apps. They fixed it with polkit
[14:58] <wheatthin> ahh sweet :) thanks for the info ActionParsnip
[14:59] <te_> So, gksudo is no longer used?
[15:00] <holstein> !gksudo
[15:00] <holstein> te_: i use it, when i need/want it
[15:00] <imdea> Hi i have an ubuntu server 14.04 box that has a NIC with 4 ports. When I do 'ifconfig' I see: p4p1, p4p2, p4p3 and a fourth one called "rename5" that I suppose it's the other port, but why isn't it named like the other ones?
[15:00] <te_> I'm just wondering if it is no longer installed by default.
[15:00] <holstein> te_: check and see.. i remember installing it recently
[15:01] <te_> " Package gksudo does not exist in trusty"
[15:02] <holstein> !info gkso
[15:02] <holstein> !info gksu
[15:02] <holstein> te_: so, "sudo apt-get install gksu"
[15:02] <te_> holstein: r, just use sudo
[15:03] <holstein> te_: there is no package "gksudo".. the package to install is "gksu".. that package provides the gksudo command to you.. if you want/need it
[15:04] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
[15:05] <imdea> anyone?
[15:05] <te_> So, are we to assume gksudo has been deprecated? And that gksu has taken it's place?  (But why not just use sudo?)--(from thursty forward...)?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !server|imdea
[15:06] <skylto> Should be installed?  install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz or adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.359.orig.tar.gz
[15:06] <holstein> imdea: correct.. no volunteer has anything to offer right now.. you can wait patiently, or try a server channel or mailing list.. though, i would just try the NIC's, and not worrry about the labeling..
[15:06] <mobiGeek> I have a system running in a VirtualBox. but it is PAINFULLY slow.  Any suggestions on how I can benchmark or profile the system to determine where slowdowns are (disk, cpu, memory, etc.)?
[15:06] <mobiGeek> (BTW: my system is a headless server)
[15:06] <ndf> isn't there a specific channel for ubuntu server?
[15:06] <ndf> I was just looking for it but it seems I can't find it
[15:07] <Fuchs> ndf: alis finds it
[15:07] <miqui> quesion: any here uses a keepass equivalent?
[15:07] <ndf> ?
[15:07] <Fuchs> ndf: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm., you are looking for #ubuntu-server
[15:07] <imdea> holstein, yes but it's a bit annoying to refer to it as "rename5" instad of p4p5 for instance. I have searched in google but the web pages I've found say something about editing an udev persistent configuration file, but in my machine that file doesn't even exist.
[15:07] <holstein> mobiGeek: well, you can give the guest more/less ram, and test.. the cpu shouldnt be an issue.. the disk is usually not an issue either, but, just set up some tests to isolate.. maybe a live CD on the same virtual environment
[15:07] <ndf> oh
[15:07] <whoever> mobiGeek: mobiGeek how are you accessing your headless vm
[15:07] <k1l_> !server | ndf
[15:07] <Fuchs> miqui: sort of, kwallet
[15:07] <ndf> nice
[15:07] <k1l_> ndf: #ubuntu-server it is
[15:07] <holstein> imdea: rename, as you please
[15:08] <ndf> thanks Fuchs, is that a freenode services bot?
[15:08] <miqui> thanks Fuchs, i have some windoez colleagues..... and they use keepaas
[15:08] <Fuchs> ndf: indeed
[15:08] <ndf> =)
[15:08] <mobiGeek> I'm accessing via SSH.  It isn't about giving more resources (it has plenty), but it is performing too slowly.  Large computational jobs are taking a long time, but I don't see excessive load, the host box has ample resources, the drives aren't spinning hard, etc.
[15:08] <Fuchs> miqui: kwallet can't do everything keepass(x) can, also note that there are keypass(x) frontends available for linux. But for what I need it is sufficient.
[15:09] <imdea> holstein: sorry I didn't get that one last thing you said.
[15:09] <te_> holstein: "gksu is not recommended any more and it may be removed entirely from future issues of Ubuntu" From:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default
[15:09] <holstein> imdea: change the names as you please
[15:09] <mobiGeek> I am looking to get some type of benchmark of this system to compare with others to figure out where bottlenecks might be
[15:09] <holstein> te_: i use it when i want/need.. you can too.. or not
[15:09] <whoever> mobiGeek: are you sshing from another box  or phome the host os
[15:09] <miqui> Fuchs: thanks...as long as i can read the same data...nothing fancy..i should be ok...will give it a try..
[15:10] <Fuchs> miqui: oh, read the same data as in an existing db?  If so: you want to use keepassx, then
[15:10] <te_> holstein: Agreed, just wanting to see / clarify the issue...
[15:10] <mobiGeek> whoever: from the host OS
[15:10] <whoever> mobiGeek: well how much ram and number of cpus do you have alocated to that vm
[15:10] <fellayaboy> hey sometimes i get permission denied using rsync when copying windows files/folders/drives
[15:11] <mobiGeek> whoever: 4 CPUs to guest, host has 8.  4GB to guest, host has 16GB.
[15:11] <miqui> Fuchs: k, thanks....is there an ubuntu pkg for keepassx?
[15:11] <te_> fellayaboy: It is probably due to the way it is mounted. The use has to have permissions for those files r or rw etc..
[15:11] <mobiGeek> whoever: both have lots free (idle CPU, free RAM, free swap)
[15:11] <te_> *user* not use
[15:12] <whoever> mobiGeek: how long do the computations take you, and what are the computations
[15:12] <fellayaboy> when i do chmod 777 -R /WindowsDrive i get permmission denied
[15:12] <Fuchs> miqui: yes
[15:12] <te_> fellayaboy: Is files/folders/drives on a vfat partition?
[15:12] <wheatthin> fellayaboy, is it mounted and you using root?
[15:12] <chemist^> Hello every one. I've got a question regarding the usage of the "apt-get" command. What does the -y option stand for in sudo apt-get install blabla -y?
[15:13] <te_> fellayaboy: mount
[15:13] <chemist^> (ubuntu 14.04)
[15:13] <miqui> cool...thanks Fuchs
[15:13] <mobiGeek> whoever: it is just slow.  Can't pinpoint it.  Using a perl script to grok log files takes significantly longer than it should.  I can break down into its primitives, but i was hoping there is a perf/benchmark tool that I could use instead.
[15:13] <te_> fellayaboy: (see what mount says about it)
[15:13] <imdea> holstein: I don't understand what you mean.
[15:13] <chemist^> -y  Assume Yes to all queries and do not prompt
[15:13] <chemist^> thanks anyway :P
[15:14] <fellayaboy> yeah ill use sudo rsync -avP ....and ubuntu automaticallhy mounts it.... in /media/ folder
[15:14] <holstein> imdea: if you dont like the labeling, change it..
[15:14] <Fuchs> miqui: you're welcome
[15:14] <wheatthin> fellayaboy, if it's ntfs, make sure you have ntfs-3g installed
[15:14] <fellayaboy> yeah i do have ntfs-3g
[15:14] <fellayaboy> i can access the drive
[15:14] <te_> fellayaboy: If you rsync regularly from this drive, you may look into perminately mounting it with a fstab entry.
[15:14] <wheatthin> did you write permission entry in fstab?
[15:14] <imdea> holstein: the question is, _where_ do I do that?
[15:15] <te_> fellayaboy: A fastab entry will allow you to customize mounting of the drive to suit your needs.
[15:15] <wheatthin> then remount the drive, then you'll have full permissions
[15:16] <te_> fellayaboy: There could also be a problem with the drive.  Sometimes a HD defect will cause it to only mount in certian way
[15:16] <holstein> imdea: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/change-the-network-card-name-in-ubuntu-12-04/ should stil be relevant.. though, i would ask in a server channel, or mailing list. or just use them "as-is".. the labels are just that.. labels
[15:16] <whoever> mobiGeek: seems like your ram and cpus are correct so I would suspect what your doing in the vm
[15:17] <te_> fellayaboy: What error are you getting?
[15:18] <te_> fellayaboy: (If you examine the exact wording of the error message, you'll sometimes get a clue as to what is wrong.)
[15:19] <Dlabz> hi, all.On 13.04, I need to call a php script from cli. if I cd to folder where script is in do #php script.php it works
[15:19] <holstein> !13.04
[15:19] <Dlabz> bu calling with absolut path doesnt
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: the ubuntu community cannot support EOL releases
[15:20] <fellayaboy> te it was EFS encrypted
[15:20] <te_> fellayaboy: O
[15:21] <Dlabz> ok, so... If I upgrade, will you help me? ActionParsnip, holstein ?
[15:21] <fellayaboy> Te_ i think that was the issue
[15:21] <fellayaboy> thanks te_
[15:21] <te_> NP
[15:21] <holstein> !upgrade | Dlabz
[15:21] <holstein> Dlabz: i would just fresh install, after making a copy of my data..
[15:22] <Dlabz> holstein: well, not so simple for me, as it's a remote server
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: you will need to upgrade to 13.10 then to 14.04
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: itd be easier to wipe Raring off and clean install Trusty
[15:22] <interweb> join #wget
[15:23] <interweb> oops
[15:23] <interweb> How do I can download a page + java files that are linked in that page ?
[15:24] <te_> !lts | Dlabz
[15:25] <te_> interweb: /join (you forgot the front slash)
[15:25] <interweb> te_, sorry for that :)
[15:29] <Dlabz> ok, figured it out... thanks for nothing
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: we dont dupport raring here
[15:34] <te_> Dlabz: You are welcome.  (Enjoy your upgrade experience.)
[15:34] <Dlabz> ActionParsnip: My question had nothing to do with version of the ubuntu I'm running
[15:34] <aandy> hi. i'm using cm-crypt with luks, and i have a volume unlocked (opened) - anyone know if there's a way for me to verify the passphrase without closing/re-open?
[15:35] <Dlabz> te_: I didn't upgrade... I have no idea what upgrade would do to my 2m lines code
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: but its the version you are running, which isnt supported
[15:35] <te_> Dlabz: We gave you good advise.  You may not have needed help with the issue you encountered but you received good aviise anywya.
[15:36] <te_> Dlabz: Did you understand the information about LTS?
[15:36] <igor_> Hey i have ubuntu 14.04 on mac and it keeps freezing and the loading screen is messed up
[15:36] <holstein> Dlabz: well, the upgrade would get you on a supported version of ubuntu, that is recieving upgrades, and security patches
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> igor_: what GPU(s) do you use?
[15:36] <holstein> !mac | igor_
[15:36] <igor_> gpu?
[15:36] <holstein> igor_: i ended up using reFit, though, i think there is a newer version
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> igor_: the graphical processor....
[15:36] <igor_> oh i just wiped my computer and downloaded it
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> igor_: it still has a GPU to put the image on the screen.
[15:37] <Dlabz> te_: No, I have no idea what you wanted to tell me
[15:37] <igor_> how do i check
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> igor_: does the mac have a model number?
[15:37] <igor_> oh yeah
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> igor_: what is it please? (probably on the bottom)
[15:39] <te_> Dlabz: Ok.  We assumend that you may not have known that your version of Ubuntu had reached End Of Life, (so we informed you).  LTS means long term support (5 years worth).  Most of us that run servers use LTS.  It is a good practice to use LTS.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> te_: Xubuntu and Lubuntu 14.04 LTS is 3 years, not 5 :)
[15:40] <Dlabz> te_: I had no idea I'm supposed to point out I'm running a LTS version when asking help in here
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: you dont have to point out if its LTS or not.
[15:40] <holstein> Dlabz: giving details can be helpful..
[15:40] <te_> Dlabz: That's not what I said.
[15:40] <holstein> Dlabz: you are not using a supported version.. are you going to upgrade to a supported version?
[15:41] <chemist^> Hello everyone, i'm back. How do i install ffmpeg on Ubuntu 14.04 so, let's say Audacity, would use it to read mp4 files for example? It's not in the repos, and the PPAs mentioned on the forum don't have either.
[15:41] <te_> ActionParsnip: I did not know that Xubuntu and Lubuntu were different.  Thanks for the info.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> te_: np
[15:41] <holstein> chemist^: i use avconv http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> te_: you can get around it by installng minimal then install xfce4 or lxde packages rather than the metapackage :)
[15:41] <te_> ActionParsnip: Awesome..
[15:42] <Dlabz> holstein: I don't believe I will... It's a development machine, and I don't wanna break it
[15:42] <nicferrier> can I get dns servers from nmcli in such a way that I don't have to parse anything? I'm using "nmcli dev -t -f IPV4 dev list" which gives me the data but also the field names. anyone know?
[15:42] <holstein> Dlabz: i would argue, by running a non supported operating system, its already broken
[15:43] <te_> ActionParsnip: (... not that I understand the issue about metapackage....)
[15:43] <holstein> Dlabz: its a "good" practice to run a supported opterating system, because keeping up with security and kernel patches by one's self can be challenging
[15:43] <Dlabz> works just fine, holstein ... but thanks for a helpfull advice
[15:43] <holstein> Dlabz: sure.. but, its not suppored, or recieving security updtaes
[15:43] <holstein> updates*
[15:44] <holstein> Dlabz: this is *not* advice or opinion.. but fact
[15:44] <chemist^> holstein, ffmpeg was replaced in previous versions by avconv package.
[15:44] <chemist^> Now avconv package is in libav-tools. You need to install it.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> nicferrier: let me have a searc
[15:44] <chemist^> holstein, this?
[15:44] <te_> Dlabz: The motivation for not breaking something is good but can be carried to extreme.
[15:44] <holstein> chemist^: thats what has met my personal needs
[15:44] <chemist^> holstein, will audacity now read mp4 files?
[15:45] <igor_> sorry i crashed its a galium
[15:45] <igor_> i think
[15:45] <igor_> galium 0.4 on NVAF
[15:45] <holstein> chemist^: i would just install what is needed, and try.. nothing about audacity or linux or ubuntu will prevent you from reading them
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> nicferrier: nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep DNS | awk {'print $2'}
[15:46] <te_> Dlabz: I have upgraded Ubuntu systems many times online and have never had a failure. Maybe I'm just lucky, but.... one thing to consider is that if you are too afraid of breaking something, you will limit your options toward development and advancement.
[15:46] <Dlabz> te_: I see no point in risking breaking something, and loosing a week figuring out what got broken... I'll update on my terms. I'm the only person using this server, so I don't see the point in worying about security
[15:46] <holstein> Dlabz: running an EOL version of any operating system is a risk
[15:46] <igor_> ubuntu 14.04 freezing and boot ubuntu logo is dosorted on mac help?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: thats fine but dont expect any updates or community support
[15:47] <holstein> igor_: have you tried reFit? or addressing GPU drivers?
[15:47] <chemist^> holstein, i'll give it a try now
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> igor_: I asked for the model of the system
[15:47] <Dlabz> ActionParsnip: I figured that out already
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: cool
[15:47] <igor_> action: is it the graphicd
[15:47] <chemist^> holstein, nope...still doesn't work
[15:47] <igor_> or the cpu?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> igor_: yes, what model is the system please
[15:47] <holstein> chemist^: you can try the restricted extra
[15:48] <holstein> !restriced | chemist^
[15:48] <holstein> !restricted | chemist^
[15:48] <igor_> galium 1.4 on nvaf and intel core 2 duo cpu
[15:48] <chemist^> holstein, i think i enabled that during the installation of ubuntu
[15:48] <igor_> galium 0.4*
[15:48] <Jois-studio> Ciao a tutti
[15:48] <erasec> ciao
[15:48] <holstein> chemist^: dont think.. read the link and get what is needed for the proprietary files you are trying to edit
[15:48] <vlt> Jois-studio: Ciao
[15:49] <Lsama> hi
[15:49] <chemist^> holstein, yeah your right...i typed in the terminal and it's intalling now
[15:49] <holstein> chemist^: during install, you would have been given the option for mp3 support. not mp4
[15:49] <Lsama> I have a question
[15:49] <chemist^> holstein, right
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> igor_: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:50] <Lsama> I have installed a full install on usb stick and forgot to make it bootable
[15:50] <chemist^> !ask | Lsama
[15:50] <holstein> Lsama: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Lsama: boot to liveCD, or shove it in a linux OS and you can put grub on the stick
[15:50] <Lsama> holstein, does it work fo usb sticks?
[15:51] <holstein> Lsama: it works anywhere you want/need to install grub, and can
[15:51] <te_> Dlabz: We welcome you to upgrade on your own terms and in your own time, but if you upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04, you will probably not encounter any problems, (or not many). By all means, take your time.  What I would do is upgrade to 13.10 and then make sure it is fully updated, (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade), make sure everythig is ok and working good, (fix what may be broken, if anything.  Then, (at your leisure), upgrade to 14.04.
[15:51] <igor_> how would i do that?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Lsama: why would it be different?
[15:51] <holstein> igor_: http://refit.sourceforge.net/ is what i used..
[15:51] <holstein> !nvidia | igor_
[15:52] <igor_> but i dont have the mac partition anymore only ubunut
[15:52] <igor_> ubuntu
[15:52] <holstein> igor_: i dont either.. didnt.. havent had it..
[15:52] <igor_> so what do i do
[15:52] <Lsama> holstein, I will try that. Thanks
[15:52] <igor_> im on the ubuntu right know
[15:52] <holstein> igor_: choose how you want to proceed, and go for it
[15:53] <igor_> but it keeps crashing i cant dowwnload anything
[15:53] <holstein> igor_: what i found i needed was reFit.. or, you can refer to the graphics drivers, and just try a proprietary graphics driver
[15:53] <holstein> igor_:  i understand.. mine did the same, but, apple didnt promise me linux would work on the machine, so i worked with it, troubleshooting
[15:53] <te_> Dlabz: See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[15:54] <holstein> igor_: i used another machine to create a reFit iso.. but, it may be simpler for you to try the GPU driver first..
[15:54] <igor_> so do i need to use bless it refit or something
[15:54] <igor_> i herad that works
[15:54] <holstein> igor_: it worked for me.. but, i dont have your hardware
[15:55] <igor_> so basically i have to get refitt onto my computer then redownload ubuntu?
[15:55] <igor_> reinstall*
[15:55] <Dlabz> te_: thanks, i get what you're saying. I had to abandon 12.04 due compatibility issue...
[15:56] <holstein> igor_: no.. only apple would be able to tell you want to definitively do.. they pay professionals to make sure OSX will run on that hardware.. you need to take that role on, and make sure linux will work
[15:56] <te_> Dlabz: What compatability issue did you encounter?
[15:56] <igor_> ok thx alot i will try thankyou
[15:56] <holstein> igor_: tring reFit *reallY* helped me, on my hardware.. i cant speak for your hardware.. though, the grahphics driver would be easier
[15:57] <nicferrier> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I wanted to do it without awk.
[15:57] <nicferrier> ActionParsnip: that's exactly what I was asking.
[15:58] <Dlabz> te_: so, seen you have time, you could have simply helped me, you know.
[15:59] <deadmund> nicferrier: Why not use awk ?   This is the sort of job awk was designed for?
[15:59] <nicferrier> deadmund: it is but it's also fragile because it has no way of knowing when the input changed format.
[15:59] <te_> Dlabz: What compatability issue did you encounter?
[16:01] <Dlabz> If I remember right, I had to update JRE and tomcat, and one of those didn't work on 12.04
[16:01] <Dlabz> If I remember right, I had to update JRE and tomcat, and one of those didn't work on 12.04, te_
[16:01] <holstein> Dlabz: 12.04 is supported, and those issues may be addressed..
[16:01] <Dlabz> holstein: ok, let me downgrade real quick :P
[16:02] <holstein> Dlabz: upgrading it whas has been suggested
[16:02] <v0lksman> hello all!  I have a system that has been crashing a lot.  I believe it's the vid drivers causing problems and I'm likely going to replace the vid card to try to fix that.  My question is around a drive attached to the system.  I have a 1T USB drive connected.  Everytime it crashes the drive refuses to mount and I need to fsck it before I can mount it.  Is this an indication that the drive might be dying?
[16:03] <gatchi> i dont understand why its so not intuitive to customize desktop environment settings
[16:03] <te_> Dlabz: I see.  But if you were ok with upgrading 12.04 to 13.04, why is it that you are so afraid to upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04?
[16:03] <gatchi> other than changing wallpapel
[16:03] <gatchi> or to a premade theme
[16:03] <gatchi> even windows gives you some flexibility
[16:04] <Seus> question: I'm running 13.10, and am interested in swapping out my NVIDIA gfx card for an ATI R9 280X...is there a procedure I should follow? Or is it just swap out GPUs and the OS takes care of the rest?
[16:04] <holstein> Seus: i would remove any proprietary drivers i have installed
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> nicferrier: not sure how then, awk is by far the easiest way to get what you want from nmcli
[16:05] <Dlabz> te_: ubuntu is not reccomending to update from ssh.
[16:05] <nicferrier> ActionParsnip: yeah. I'd just hoped I could ask it to just print the specific variable that I wanted without parsing. never mind.
[16:05] <deadmund> Seus: Just swap sir!  Let's see if there is good support for that card
[16:05] <te_> Dlabz: At any rate, you have been given advise, take it or leave it.  The choice is yours.
[16:06] <holstein> Dlabz: you can.. you can input the commands as you need. .you should have your server backed up regardless
[16:06] <Seus> Going to give it a go...lets see what happens
[16:06] <holstein> Seus: there are recovery kernel options.. if you have problems
[16:06] <Dlabz> te_: so, I'll do-release-upgrade. What happens if my upgrade failed? do I get support for trying, or am left alone?
[16:07] <te_> Dlabz: How did you do with the upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?
[16:07] <holstein> Dlabz: you *should* have backupds, regardless of this upgrade.. so, plan for total failure for just safety sake, and procede as you please
[16:07] <v0lksman> further, does anyone have any good docs on installing the nvidia driver from the nvidia site in 14.04?
[16:08] <Pa^2> Cursor changes to huge in app windows, back to small on the desktop.  Any ideas why?
[16:09] <te_> v0lksman: You just need to turn off X before the install, other than that, Nvidia's instructions are sufficient.
[16:09] <Dlabz> te_: I ran the update, it crashed, i lost access to the server, had to pay $50 for reinstall of a fresh, updated OS, and started from scratch.
[16:09] <te_> v0lksman: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:09] <holstein> Dlabz: you may not be running ubuntu, but a vendor version of ubuntu
[16:10] <te_> Dlabz: What kind of server is it?
[16:10] <holstein> Dlabz: you should seek support from them,a nd see if they are applying patches to 13.04 for you
[16:10] <AcidRain2012> hmmm
[16:10] <AcidRain2012> how do i get chanserv into a channel?
[16:11] <dw1> AcidRain2012: try #freenode
[16:11] <Dlabz> te_, holstein so, you might now understand my hesitation about upgrade
[16:11] <AcidRain2012> dw1, thx
[16:11] <v0lksman> te_: 14.04...I've dropped to shell killed lightdm and run the Nvidia package. When I reboot I get the dreaded black screen with blinking cursor...
[16:11] <v0lksman> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-337.19.run
[16:11] <v0lksman> using that package
[16:11] <te_> Dlabz: The fact remains that you are in an EOL version.  How you solve that problem is your business.
[16:11] <v0lksman> on a GeForce GT220
[16:11] <holstein> Dlabz: not really.. i would have no hesitaion in having a complete backup, and control over them, and the restoring of them
[16:11] <te_> v0lksman: You have to do the config, (and ultimately create the xorg.conf file).
[16:12] <v0lksman> te_: I let the installer create the config...is there more than that?
[16:12] <dw1> Dlabz: some providers offer console/recovery access and re-imaging free. :/
[16:12] <Dlabz> te_, holsteincheers, guys... I have work to do
[16:12] <holstein> Dlabz: good luck!
[16:12] <te_> v0lksman: nvidia-xconfig
[16:13] <daftykins> v0lksman: why are you installing drivers manually?
[16:13] <v0lksman> te_: so run that from shell after the install is finished and before a reboot?
[16:13] <BARACKEFELLER> hello im getting error when apt-get update
[16:13] <BARACKEFELLER> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages
[16:13] <te_> v0lksman: Do you have an xorg.conf file yet?
[16:13] <dw1> BARACKEFELLER: way out of date
[16:13] <te_> v0lksman: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:13] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: natty is an *ancient* dead release, it is EOL and so no longer supported - remove that entry from your sources
[16:13] <v0lksman> te_: I had one but removed it when rolling back to the Ubuntu provided driver
[16:14] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: what version are you running? "cat /etc/issue"
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> is there a way to update it
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> 11.04
[16:14] <te_> v0lksman: nvidia-xconfig
[16:14] <v0lksman> daftykins: because the ones provided by Ubuntu suck, and the proprietary drivers listed in the additional drivers tool also suck (tearing and I believe it's leading to X crashing)
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> i also have a 9.10 box with a simbilar errors
[16:14] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: that release is also ancient and unsupported, it would take a lot of effort, so i would recommend you just backup your data and clean install 14.04
[16:14] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: same situation for both then
[16:14] <te_> v0lksman: Wait, you installed the Nvidia driver from Ubuntu repo?
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> @_@
[16:15] <v0lksman> te_: yeah I tried xorg-edgers
[16:15] <BARACKEFELLER> why cant i udpate it
[16:15] <daftykins> v0lksman: on what ubuntu version?
[16:15] <dw1> BARACKEFELLER: 14.04 will be good for 5 years, if you dont go crazy and upgrade to 14.10 :P
[16:15] <v0lksman> currently running nvidia-331
[16:15] <v0lksman> daftykins: 14.04
[16:15] <daftykins> v0lksman: getting direct from nvidia won't change anything
[16:15] <te_> v0lksman: Maybe you need to start over and tell us what you've done, (and in the order in which you have done these things).
[16:16] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: because you'd have to upgrade multiple times and it'd take hours, so you're best off just clean installing.
[16:16] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: if you insist though, check out these links...
[16:16] <daftykins> !eol | BARACKEFELLER
[16:16] <daftykins> ^
[16:17] <v0lksman> Hrm.  Well I installed from scratch.  nouveau is default but there is tearing.  Added the xorg-edgers ppa and installed nvidia-331.  still tearing and random crashes (usually after watching vids).  installed 337 from nvidia, got the black screen, rolled back to 331 from PPA and sit with it in that state
[16:18] <daftykins> v0lksman: there is no reason to be using xorg-edgers on 14.04
[16:18] <te_> v0lksman: Bottom line is, that if you have installed Nvidia proprietary drivers from Ubuntu repositories and you want to  install from Nvidia and use Nvidia's installer, you would first need to un-install the ones you installed from Ubuntu repositories, (using the apt package manager).
[16:18] <v0lksman> by tearing I mean videos show tearing, the desktop shows tons of weird artifacts seemingly at random
[16:19] <v0lksman> daftykins: base doesn't come with any does it?
[16:19] <te_> v0lksman: Sounds like it may be a hardware issue.
[16:19] <daftykins> nvidia packages? sure it does
[16:19] <daftykins> but you have to install them
[16:19] <v0lksman> daftykins: I thought it was just nouveau...non-proprietary
[16:19] <daftykins> nope
[16:19] <daftykins> sounds like you've been led astray by a very bad guide
[16:20] <v0lksman> hrm...yeah looks like 331 is in the repo
[16:21] <v0lksman> wonder why I went back to edgers
[16:21] <daftykins> but you're going to want to ditch that repo
[16:21] <te_> v0lksman: Before making assumptions, you should look to see what you have installed, or what you do not have installed.
[16:21] <daftykins> go back to a stock config
[16:21] <v0lksman> 331.67-0ubuntu1~xedgers14.04.2
[16:21] <daftykins> !ppa-purge
[16:23] <te_> v0lksman: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list
[16:24] <v0lksman> te_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7498002/
[16:24] <v0lksman> currently purging edgers
[16:24] <BARACKEFELLER> fine i will install debian
[16:24] <BARACKEFELLER> thanks!
[16:25] <daftykins> lol distrio ragequit ^
[16:25] <daftykins> *distro
[16:25] <v0lksman> we're doing it fucking live!
[16:25] <daftykins> v0lksman: no language in here thanks, family friendly
[16:25] <v0lksman> oops...sorry..I think f* is not allowed here...
[16:25] <v0lksman> sorry
[16:25] <te_> v0lksman: So, you see the error of your ways then. Right?
[16:26] <v0lksman> te_: well I now know that edgers is not needed (not for 331 at least).  but I don't think I've solved my problem yet
[16:26] <te_> v0lksman: You should have uninstalled those packages before installing the ones you downloaded from Nvidia.
[16:27] <v0lksman> now that I have stock 331 installed should I remove those too before trying nvidia's again?
[16:27] <te_> v0lksman: Yes
[16:27] <v0lksman> ok...well I'm going to reboot and see what happens...going to try stock 331 for now
[16:27] <v0lksman> doh...didn't screen
[16:31] <v0lksman> well..at least it booted!  :)
[16:31] <knoppix> startx
[16:31] <v0lksman> will watch for my problem.
[16:31] <v0lksman> thanks for the hints te_ and daftykins
[16:32] <te_> v0lksman: I don't know what you mean by "stock 133"
[16:32] <v0lksman> 331
[16:32] <v0lksman> te_: nvidia-331
[16:32] <daftykins> v0lksman: my pleasure
[16:32] <te_> v0lksman: But as long as you do.....
[16:32] <v0lksman> instead of edgers nvidia-331
[16:33] <JeremyinNC> Can someone tell me how to prevent a system from rebooting when a user does C+A+D on the console?
[16:33] <te_> v0lksman: "edgers"?
[16:33] <v0lksman> te_: xorg-edgers ppa package
[16:33] <te_> JeremyinNC: Not sure why you would want to...
[16:34] <JeremyinNC> Because I have ~1200 Ubuntu servers that are all VMs
[16:34] <te_> JeremyinNC: by C+A+D I assume you mean Ctrl-Alt-Delete   Right?
[16:34] <deadmund> JeremyinNC: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/20/how-to-disable-ctrl-alt-del-from-rebooting-a-linux-system/
[16:34] <JeremyinNC> And people are used to hitting CAD to get the prompt up in Windows so they do it on the blank screen on the Ubuntu boxes too
[16:34] <Beldar> JeremyinNC, Who are these people?
[16:35] <JeremyinNC> deadmund, I thnk that's pre-upstart, no inittab in 14.04
[16:35] <JeremyinNC> maybe in innitrc but can't tell what the sytax is
[16:35] <JeremyinNC> Beldar, Usually our security admin or after hours support
[16:36] <Beldar> JeremyinNC, Can you be more vague, that is BS.
[16:36] <te_> deadmund: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> Beldar, I do not understand what you mean
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> ah, found it
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> /etc/init/control-alt-delete.conf
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> go figure
[16:37] <v0lksman> til
[16:39] <Beldar> JeremyinNC, You are just making broad statements that honestly mean nothing at least to me, no substance, on commenting on people is all.
[16:39] <Beldar> is the world or one person see
[16:39] <Beldar> it*
[16:40] <JeremyinNC> Beldar, Uh, it's a couple of dozen folks in our after hours support team and our security admin, but that really does not have an impact on my question.
[16:40] <vlad_starkov> JeremyinNC: learn about Ctrl + Alt + SysRq (Print screen) + REISUB
[16:41] <Beldar> !REISUB
[16:53] <BLZbubba> on ubuntu 14.04, how to I install systemctl?
[16:56] <deadmund> BLZbubba: systemctl is part of systemd I believe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[16:57] <wilhelm1> What is the most efficient way to install packages in apt-cache on another machine?
[16:57] <BLZbubba> wilhelm1: you could use ssh & pipes
[16:58] <deadmund> wilhelm1: Your question does not make sense.
[16:58] <RustyShackleford> i can use this live usb if I boot with bios
[16:58] <RustyShackleford> but windows is already installed with eufi
[16:58] <RustyShackleford> any clue how I can get this to boot in eufi mode?
[16:58] <BLZbubba> deadmund: it is worse than that - it appears that systemctl is simply gone from the 14.04 repos
[16:59] <BLZbubba> i.e. canonical decided not to include it
[16:59] <te_> !eufi | RustyShackleford
[16:59] <deadmund> RustyShackleford: Is this helpful?
[16:59] <te_> !uefi | RustyShackleford
[17:00] <BLZbubba> i can't believe i have to rebuild the systemd package just to get systemctl
[17:00] <RustyShackleford> uh, not really
[17:00] <wilhelm1> What is the most efficient way, efficient meaning the least downloading and extra steps and code,  to install packages in apt-cache on another machine? The concern is with apt-get being used primarily for Internet transfers satisfying dependencies so if the files are copied and dpkg is used to install them doing dpkg -i on each individual packageg causes more work.
[17:00] <trism> BLZbubba: what do you need systemctl for when we aren't using systemd? (just curious)
[17:01] <deadmund> BLZbubba: systemctl is part of systemd, a lot of people are upset that systemd is not modular enough.  It's a hugh point of contention
[17:01] <RustyShackleford> i can't get the liveusb to boot when my laptop uses eufi mode
[17:01] <BLZbubba> deadmund: well the worst piece of sh!t init system ever made is upstart, so it is an improvement
[17:02] <BLZbubba> trism: sshd on 14.04 has a systemd init file
[17:02] <trism> BLZbubba: yes but we do not use it
[17:02] <trism> BLZbubba: /etc/init/ssh.conf
[17:02] <BLZbubba> i thought ubuntu was switching to systemd finally
[17:02] <te_> RustyShackleford: Check bios settings, its different for different macines.  Sometimes you hit F10 for boot menu,....
[17:02] <trism> BLZbubba: you can use systemd in 14.10 but it isn't default yet
[17:02] <RustyShackleford> te_, yeah I know that part. I can get it to boot in BIOS mode
[17:03] <te_> RustyShackleford: So what is the problem?
[17:03] <RustyShackleford> but if I select boot from usb under UEFI, it chokes
[17:03] <BLZbubba> ok well those idiots just put upstart into 10.04 without any warning, they should have done the same with 14.04 and systemd
[17:03] <RustyShackleford> and windows boots instead
[17:03] <deadmund> wilhelm1: This may be helpful : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564301
[17:03] <te_> RustyShackleford: You might try legacy boot
[17:03] <te_> RustyShackleford: Or just install to the HD
[17:03] <BLZbubba> oh i see, openssh has both a systemd and an upstart file
[17:04] <wilhelm1> Is there a quick way to use apt-get to install them locally? Does specifying the path in the url of apt config work?
[17:04] <gatchi> so im a little confused to what things control the window environment on linux
[17:04] <BLZbubba> but why TF would ubuntu build the systemd package but leave out systemctl?  that is just stupid
[17:04] <RustyShackleford> te_, yeah legacy boot might be the way to go. But then I'll have to reinstall windows
[17:04] <gatchi> like i know gnome has "themes"
[17:04] <RustyShackleford> i need my netflix
[17:04] <BLZbubba> gatchi: you mean besides the window manager
[17:04] <trism> BLZbubba: we use parts of systemd like logind
[17:04] <BLZbubba> ?
[17:05] <gatchi> BLZbubba, uhhhh
[17:05] <deadmund> BLZbubba: Have you tried using apt-file search "systemctl" to find what (if any) package provides that file?
[17:05] <BLZbubba> deadmund: yes, it is not there
[17:06] <gatchi> BLZbubba, wait is gnome a window manager
[17:06] <gatchi> or something else
[17:06] <BLZbubba> gatchi: this gets confusing, sorry in advance
[17:06] <Roxana18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1gPNuyO
[17:06] <gatchi> xD
[17:06] <deadmund> gatchi: gnome incorporates a window manager called "metacity" gnome is a "Desktop Environment"
[17:06] <gatchi> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[17:07] <BLZbubba> gnome is just a set of gui development libraries really, there is a dedicated program called a window manager to do the window borders & such
[17:07] <deadmund> gatchi: :)
[17:07] <BLZbubba> and there are a zillion to choose from
[17:07] <gatchi> ok
[17:07] <gatchi> so
[17:07] <Beldar> gatchi, gnome is to vague, depends on the desktop, or how you set it up yourself.
[17:07] <gatchi> im using gnome with openbox
[17:07] <gatchi> so openbox is the wm
[17:07] <deadmund> gatchi: ok
[17:07] <deadmund> gatchi: yeah
[17:07] <gatchi> hmm
[17:07] <gatchi> so heres the weird thing
[17:07] <BLZbubba> trism: so is it a bug that systemctl is missing, or intentionally left out?
[17:08] <gatchi> i have a control panel for openbox
[17:08] <gatchi> but it seems to only control some of the elements....
[17:08] <gatchi> like, with the theme i have now,
[17:08] <BLZbubba> if you're going to systemd, it is probably a bad idea to make it difficult to get used to it.... I was trying to use it by default wherever possible
[17:08] <Beldar> gatchi, Try to keep your posts consolidated, don't use enter as punctuation.
[17:09] <deadmund> BLZbubba: If you have opinions about ubuntu, go to ubuntu-chat if you need tech support, ask questions here
[17:09] <gatchi> oh, ok
[17:09] <trism> BLZbubba: it is not included because we don't have the systemd binary, it is disabled since we still use upstart in 14.04, in 14.10 it is reenabled
[17:09] <trism> BLZbubba: but not installed by default yet
[17:09] <Beldar> gatchi, Cool, just makes it more difficult to keep the info together is all. ;)
[17:10] <GrandMaster> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - http://bit.ly/1pd993r. Not a chance!!
[17:10] <GrandMaster> Is Mint based on Ubuntu?
[17:10] <nnjpp> yes
[17:10] <Beldar> GrandMaster, Has been there is s debian based version, none supported here.
[17:10] <BLZbubba> ok thanks.  this is painful but whatever it takes to get rid of upstart is worth doing.  my 8.04 servers are just about end of lifed, and there is no way i will run 10.04, 12.04, or 14.04
[17:10] <gatchi> So for example the theme i have now makes some context windows grey with a darker grey highlight, but the start menu, and other application menus look like the default metacity theme
[17:10] <GrandMaster> Debian based mint?
[17:11] <gatchi> Its not possible both are running at the same time, is it?
[17:11] <Beldar> GrandMaster, Honestly ask them.
[17:11] <Beldar> !mint
[17:11] <wilhelm1> This http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564301 is exactly what my question specified against, that is downloading a bunch of packages adding code and steps.
[17:12] <GrandMaster> I hope Linux renders Windows obsolete one day. Have a good evening folks!
[17:12] <rahuL__> citrix
[17:12] <RustyShackleford> GrandMaster, keep hoping
[17:12] <GrandMaster> RustyShackleford: Or keep spreading the word:)
[17:12] <GrandMaster> Ha ha bye! :)
[17:13] <te_> GrandMaster: Won't happen ;0
[17:13] <wilhelm1> Is there a quick way to use apt-get to install them from local files? Does specifying the path in the url of apt config work?
[17:13] <Beldar> wilhelm1, what is this install in the local files? apt-get calls the repos
[17:14] <RustyShackleford> well these workarouunds are disapointing
[17:14] <RustyShackleford> One is to install ubuntu in BIOS mode, then convert the install to UEFI later
[17:15] <te_> wilhelm1: dpkg
[17:15] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: workaround to what?
[17:15] <Beldar> wilhelm1, I see from your link what you basically mean, I missed that.
[17:15] <RustyShackleford> daftykins, i can't get my laptop to boot this liveusb in UEFI mode
[17:15] <TJ-> wilhelm1: see apt-offline http://www.debian-administration.org/article/648/Offline_Package_Management_for_APT
[17:15] <RustyShackleford> it does however, boot if I turn on legacy mode
[17:15] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: is there a reason you feel compelled to use an EFI install?
[17:15] <holstein> RustyShackleford: let the manufacturer know you are having an issue with the way they have left it configured for you
[17:16] <RustyShackleford> yep, windows is already installed and configured
[17:16] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: did you make the drive with unetbootin?
[17:16] <RustyShackleford> daftykins, no, dd
[17:16] <te_> RustyShackleford: What is the dissapointing part?
[17:16] <RustyShackleford> te_, it doesn't just work automagically
[17:16] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: cool, does your system's setup not list boot devices on either the boot or exit page?
[17:16] <DrDuck> Hello. I'd like to setup my Ubuntu so that I can simply type scala and be prompted by the interpreter. Is this the proper thing to add to my .bashrc? http://pastebin.com/VgYvZN3z
[17:17] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: for the separate entries of the flash drive as legacy and EFI mode
[17:17] <RustyShackleford> daftykins, it lists boot from usb. For example, I can boot a windows usb installer
[17:17] <Beldar> RustyShackleford, Besides the UEFI wiki, I like this for info on this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:17] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: right but usually there are two entries for each device when a system is EFI capable
[17:17] <RustyShackleford> when I try to boot the ubuntu live usb, it chokes and then boots from hard disk instead
[17:18] <TJ-> RustyShackleford: Is the USB ISO image 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[17:18] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: please forgive the idea, but you did dd to the root device and not a partition?
[17:18] <Peekay> Be sure to have the right bios configuration to boot via the usd driver
[17:18] <te_> RustyShackleford: For automatical ubuntu see: http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[17:19] <RustyShackleford> woah thats a cool site te_
[17:20] <[S^K]> Hello, I have a python application that uses urllib2 to retreive a HTTP response from a remote server URI. If I use curl on the URI the response is quick as expected. However, urllib from my python script hangs for 60 seconds before completing. The script does not hang on my ubuntu development machine. What configurations could be causing this to happen?
[17:20] <te_> RustyShackleford: The best advise I can give is just wipe the HD and istall with Ubuntu and be done with it.
[17:21] <RustyShackleford> yeah that is looking like the easiest thing unfortunately
[17:21] <te_> RustyShackleford: (It's what Iwould do.
[17:21] <Beldar> te_, That your opinion, keep it to yourself here.
[17:21] <TJ-> [S^K]: probably DNS resolution is failing
[17:21] <te_> Beldar: Why?
[17:22] <RustyShackleford> te_, don't worry, *I* appreciate your opinion!
[17:22] <Beldar> te_, Really, that is beyond your comprehension?
[17:22] <rapitivo> Hi. I'm trying to save my iptables rules. Sounds very simple to me but, it doesn't work. I'm using Ubuntu Server 12.10 and 13.04, neither one works. I need some help on that
[17:22] <te_> Beldar: Just offered the easiest solution.  Not sure what the problem is.
[17:22] <Beldar> worded as an opinion is different than how you posted te_
[17:23] <Beldar> eg In my opinion..............
[17:23] <te_> Beldar: Advise is given as is.  It is always a take-it-or-leave it option.
[17:24] <Beldar> te_, sorry not here this is support, not your opinions without wording as such, this is basic communication.
[17:24] <te_> Beldar: Advise - to give an opinion or suggestion
[17:25] <te_> Beldar: Thank you for your constructive criticism.  I will take your advise.
[17:26] <TJ-> RustyShackleford: Does the system have an AMI Patio firmware? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Live_CD_is_not_a_Boot_Option
[17:26] <RustyShackleford> nope I don't think so
[17:26] <TJ-> s/Patio/Aptio/
[17:26] <RustyShackleford> Intel hardware
[17:27] <te_> rapitivo: Just load them into a script that will run as needed.
[17:27] <On> hi
[17:27] <[S^K]> TJ-: Why would this only occur for an executable and not for curl / wget? Also the response does return eventually but it just takes a long time
[17:28] <te_> rapitivo: You can do it manually, or use ufw
[17:28] <Guest37482> does anyone tell me ..how can i add $HOME/npm/bin to $PATH??
[17:28] <rapitivo> te_: I'd like to load them on startup.
[17:29] <te_> rapitivo: Correct, a startup script.
[17:29] <TJ-> [S^K]: You'd need to profile the Python application to identify where it is stalling
[17:29] <SCHAAP137> Guest37482: export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/npm/bin should do the trick
[17:29] <Guest37482> SCHAAP137:thinks.
[17:29] <dam_> hi
[17:29] <rahul___> citrix, d
[17:30] <SCHAAP137> Guest37482: yq
[17:30] <SCHAAP137> *yw
[17:30] <rapitivo> te_: I was thinking that way would be not "right". I'm gonna try. Thanks
[17:31] <[S^K]> TJ-: I have already profiled it, it stalls on the urllib2 request
[17:31] <te_> rapitivo: Startup scripts are kept in /etc/init.d/ see man update-rc.d
[17:32] <te_> rapitivo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[17:32] <TJ-> [S^K]: Then I'd profile urllib2, and I'd monitor the network connections with tcpdump to check timings of the packets
[17:32] <rapitivo> te_: Tks
[17:32] <Beldar> rapitivo, 12.10 is eol.
[17:32] <te_> rapitivo: NP
[17:34] <te_> rapitivo: Beldar has a good point.  Your version of Ubuntu is EOL.  You should upgrade
[17:34] <te_> !eol | rapitivo
[17:34] <rapitivo> Beldar: I'm gonna update. I'm finishing to set up the second server. Thank I can reboot the old one. :)
[17:34] <cederfjard> I've had something weird happen a few times when torrenting - client hangs, internet connection drops, can't do anything as root (e.g. sudo hangs) and computer hangs on shutdown. Ubuntu 13 and 14, both with Transmission and Deluge. Anyone familiar with this issue?
[17:34] <fabio_> i am using 10.04 and i want to update to 14.04, how o do this
[17:35] <Beldar> rapitivo, Both the releases you mention are eol actually, Yeah upgrading is needed for support here is all.
[17:35] <holstein> !upgrade
[17:35] <te_> cederfjard: WiFi or hard-wired?
[17:35] <cederfjard> te_: WiFi
[17:35] <te_> cederfjard: Try hard-wire
[17:35] <holstein> fabio_: i would fresh install
[17:35] <wilhelm1> Does cyagnus need hardware layer support?
[17:36] <Beldar> !eol | fabio_, look for the upgrade info.
[17:36] <Beldar> fabio_, THere are eol releases between those releases.
[17:36] <wilhelm1> If dpkg is like the 'brain' of the project what is the goal?
[17:36] <cederfjard> te_: I'll have to do some drilling in that case, so I'll leave that as final option :)
[17:36] <te_> fabio_: You weren't offered 12.04 some time ago?
[17:37] <cederfjard> te_: It's a known issue with WiFi then?
[17:37] <TJ-> [S^K]: Maybe the server has IPv6 configured and is trying it first?
[17:37] <te_> cederfjard: Well sure it is.
[17:38] <cederfjard> te_: Sounds like I should've googled better... Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.
[17:38] <te_> fabio_: tail -1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:38] <te_> cederfjard: iwconfig  will show you signal strength (or signal to noise).
[17:39] <igor_> hey
[17:39] <igor_> my ubuntu is completely zoomed in
[17:39] <te_> cederfjard: If your signal to noise ratio is out of wack, you will have intermitten problems.
[17:39] <cederfjard> te_: Alright, makes sense.
[17:39] <te_> *intermittent*
[17:40] <te_> cederfjard: WiFi is never as stable / reliable as wired connection.
[17:40] <cederfjard> te_: Sure.
[17:41] <FreeMac> i was wondering about something: when you are on a page that use infinite scrolling, such as Flickr or Google image search, and you have to restart the browser for whatever reason and you have the browser set to start where you left (session restore), how do you get back to the place you were in the list of pictures?
[17:41] <te_> FreeMac: I dono, maybe Alt-LeftArrow?
[17:41] <igor_> hello, my whole screen is zoomed in and everything is bigger but still fits to screen
[17:42] <cederfjard> te_: The thing that's given me a moments pause is that I've found people who's wifi has hung when torrenting, but never seen them mention any of the other side effects, like that I can't reconnect or do anything "sudo" after this has happened.
[17:42] <SchrodingersScat> if it has to reload the js/etc. then it might not
[17:42] <te_> FreeMac: Oh, you restart the browser? Well, you would have to search through cache I guess.  Right?
[17:43] <Beldar> igor_, This a resolution issue, has it been this way always?
[17:43] <wilhelm1> What is the goal?
[17:44] <te_> cederfjard: Your situation may be different, I dont know. I only guessed that it might be an issue with radio(s).
[17:44] <igor_> no i just did something with my nvidia to get it to work propally and it became like this
[17:45] <cederfjard> te_: Thanks for help man, I'll figure it out
[17:45] <Beldar> igor_, Thanks, be sure to give a cause and effect here is all, nvidia is not an area I have messed with.
[17:45] <te_> cederfjard: (may or may *not* be RF related)
[17:45] <igor_> no after i rebooted it and its zoomed in how do i change resolution
[17:46] <holstein> igor_: is it zoomed? or is it just set at the incorrect resolution? if you installed the nvidia driver, there is an nvidia config tool.. try setting the resolution, and saving the xorg.conf
[17:46] <te_> igor_: What is zoomed?
[17:46] <wilhelm1> no goal?
[17:46] <wilhelm1> ok, signing off now
[17:46] <igor_> as everything is bigger the apps but still fits the screen
[17:46] <te_> igor_: Are you looking at a website or something in the Internet Browser, like maybe firefox?
[17:47] <Beldar> !who > wilhelm1
[17:47] <igor_> nope the actual everything
[17:47] <te_> igor_: xrandr
[17:47] <igor_> what do u mean xrandr?
[17:47] <te_> igor_: (see what screensize resolution you are using)
[17:48] <igor_> 640 x 480
[17:48] <HelloWorld321> I'm trying to create a grub2 menu loopback entry, so I have to figure out the drive/partition of an ISO file.  I typed: "mount|grep ^'/dev'" and got "/dev/sda6 on /home type ext4 (rw)", so I think my grub2 menu entry shuold include "loopback loop (hd0,6)$isofile".  Is that right: sda6, (A)(6) implies partition 6 on harddrive 0: "(hd0,6)"?
[17:48] <[S^K]> TJ-: How could I check if IPv6 is configured? I certainly did not configure it but I guess it could be
[17:48] <te_> igor_: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (Does the file exist?)
[17:49] <dw1> [S^K]: in ifconfig you might see an ipv6 address applied to interface
[17:49] <igor_> no such file in the directory
[17:50] <holstein> igor_: the nvidia tool that i reference will create one for you, that you can save
[17:50] <holstein> !nvidia
[17:50] <igor_> i dont see any
[17:50] <holstein> igor_: any what?
[17:50] <igor_> referenc
[17:51] <holstein> igor_: i refernced the nvidia config tool that the nvidia driver installed for you
[17:51] <holstein> igor_: its in the menu, on my system, after installing the proprietary driver. that is where i created the xorg.conf i use
[17:51] <igor_> so what do i do know
[17:52] <holstein> igor_: now? you look for the invidia config tool that will allow you (potentially) to use the resolution you are trying to use
[17:52] <te_> igor_: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:53] <te_> holstein: Does he have nvidia driver installed?
[17:53] <holstein> 13:44 < igor_> no i just did something with my nvidia to get it to work propally and it became like this
[17:53] <Seus> I got the ATI card installed and the latest proprietary drivers from ATI installed and working
[17:53] <igor_> te: i did what u said know what do i do
[17:53] <holstein> te_: if you would like clarification, i would as well
[17:54] <[S^K]> dw1: Does inet6 mean its using ipv6?
[17:54] <heresjohnny123> yes
[17:55] <te_> igor_: lspci |grep -i vga  #What video card do you have?
[17:55] <igor_> nvidia intel 2 duo
[17:56] <te_> igor_: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list  #What Nvidia package(s) do you have installed?
[17:56] <igor_> bumblebee i think
[17:56] <Jonii> Hello. I need quite a bit of help with video streaming
[17:56] <Jonii> Basically, I've figured out that avconv seems to work, but i have like gazillion questions about parameters, several bugs or problems etc
[17:56] <te_> igor_: You may just need to run nvidia-xconfig
[17:57] <holstein> ^ thats the gui that i was referencing
[17:58] <Jonii> One of these is, one of the parameters is by default 0.0, which man page tells is display.screen format. I tried to change that to make one of my desktops the screen i stream
[17:58] <igor_> how do i run it te
[17:58] <Jonii> It did not work. I don't understand why. I figure I have misunderstood something, but basically, is there a way to change that parameter 0.0?
[17:58] <te_> igor_: sudo
[17:58] <te_> igor_: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:58] <Jonii> (Also, feel free to direct me to a channel/place where these questions are more appropriate. This is the only place I can think of)
[17:59] <igor_> te command not found
[17:59] <Jonii> Next, my streaming seems to run into trouble because my audio sample rate is too high or low or something, and as a result the video file will rush through itself, so that 5 minute long media file plays in less than 30s
[17:59] <te_> igor_:  cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[18:00] <Jonii> Any ideas or help?
[18:00] <holstein> igor_: did you install the nvidia driver? or just add a PPA for bumblebee? if you dont need bumblebee, you shouldnt use it
[18:00] <subterfugium> I'm trying to stream my desktop by using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767488 . ffpmeg works now fine but it cannot find the desktop device /dev/video0 ... Any hints how to figure out /dev/ path for desktop or is there any?
[18:00] <Beldar> Jonii, Ubuntu? You mention other places is all.
[18:00] <igor_> no such file in directory
[18:01] <holstein> igor_: right.. so, do you have the driver installed?
[18:01] <holstein> igor_: what did you install? and how?
[18:01] <Jonii> Beldar: I don't understand the question
[18:01] <igor_> how do i check
[18:01] <te_> igor_: Install ubuntu and come  back and we will help you.
[18:01] <Beldar> Jonii, Is this issue on a ubuntu release, and if so what release?
[18:01] <holstein> igor_: look and tell me what you did
[18:01] <igor_> ubuntu is insalled
[18:02] <igor_> i am on it right know
[18:02] <holstein> igor_: what did you do? what commands did you run? from where? what have you done?
[18:02] <HelloWorld321> bbl
[18:02] <te_> igor_: lsb_release -a | pastebinit #Send us URL
[18:02] <igor_> i purge bumble bee and nvidia
[18:03] <holstein> igor_: so, you need to revert whatever bumblebee sources you added, and install the stock ubuntu nvidia driver.. that will give you the config that is suggested, that i referenced
[18:04] <Jonii> Beldar: 14.04. It's not really version specific issue, more about, "How do I stream on Ubuntu". The only version specific problem is that ffmpeg is not in 14.04 libraries, so I had to use libav instead
[18:05] <Jonii> I don't know if I should be trying to get ffmpeg instead... I figured that it's better to try to use default libraries and all that
[18:05] <Beldar> Jonii, Thanks, it was just hard to teel if you were using ubuntu, that is al that is supported here, just wanted to make sure you were in the right place; you seemed unsure is all. ;)
[18:06] <te_> Jonii: ffmpeg is not a library
[18:06] <Jonii> te_: see, i didn't know that
[18:06] <Beldar> tell*
[18:06] <subterfugium> I compiled ffmpeg for ubuntu 14.04 yesterday, works fine
[18:06] <subterfugium> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/CompilationGuide/Ubuntu
[18:06] <Jonii> I'm just trying to browse through different scripts and trying to read through their 1000 page long man pages :/
[18:06] <te_> !ffmpeg | Jonii
[18:06] <te_> !info ffmpeg | Jonii
[18:07] <te_> Jonii: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:07] <Jonii> 14.4
[18:08] <te_> I am suprised that ffmpeg has been dropped.
[18:08] <Jonii> That's the reaction many people seemed to have in comments to scripts I read of
[18:08] <holstein> i havent had any trouble, or need to go out of repo yet
[18:08] <Jonii> But anyhow, since avconv seems to mostly work, I don't know if I should change from it
[18:08] <te_> Jonii: (I never upgrade my LTS untill after the first point release)
[18:08] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[18:09] <Progster> just installed ubuntu, and put in admin as sudoers, and somehow that blew out my previous sudoers, which means my account is no longer a sudoer. Is there a way I can reover?
[18:09] <te_> Jonii: Maybe that ffmpeg will come to 14.04 later... (after or at the first point release).
[18:09] <Jonii> The problem I'm having might have something to do with audio sample rate or something. Basically, resulting video file runs too fast.
[18:09] <holstein> Progster: recovery console
[18:09] <Progster> k
[18:10] <Jonii> te_: all sources seem to indicate it's not coming back, since libav succeeded it
[18:10] <vik1231> i am using ubuntu 12.04 , once i login i get back login screen again :(
[18:10] <te_> Jonii: Oh I see.
[18:10] <holstein> vik1231: not following.. if you are looping back to the login screen, try another user, and you'll know if the issue is on your users' config
[18:11] <te_> vik1231: again?
[18:11] <te_> vik1231: You are in console mode?
[18:12] <te_> vik1231: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:12] <vik1231> holstein: even with guest i get the same problem
[18:12] <te_> vik1231: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit
[18:12] <vik1231> te_: yeah in console mode
[18:12] <vik1231> k will do
[18:13] <TheSov> I have an ubuntu server with a new xeon core, how would I install the appropriate version of openssl that will utilize the on die AES encryption?
[18:13] <holstein> vik1231: then, its not an issue with the user config, likely.. have you tried booting an older kernel? have you tried a live CD to see that the hardware is "ok"? have you tried forcing the vesa driver? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 ?
[18:13] <te_> vik1231: Can you describe any events that may have led to this issue?
[18:13] <vik1231> te_: actually its my friends system , i dont know what he did with it
[18:14] <te_> vik1231: Anything in the log file that gives a clue?
[18:14] <holstein> vik1231: on my "friends" system, i would just backup, and reinstall.. could be anything,a nd for me, thats the shortest path to a fix
[18:14] <Jonii> command avconv man page has 6300 lines in it :(
[18:14] <te_> vik1231: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[18:15] <te_> vik1231: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:17] <te_> Jonii: ffmpeg's man file as 0 lines
[18:17] <te_> Jonii: How about vlc
[18:17] <te_> ?
[18:18] <l3rg> vik1231: it is just booting to a black screen, or are you putting in the user/pass and it loops or hangs on a black screen?
[18:18] <Jonii> Basically, I'm using this script to stream a game I play to twitch:
[18:18] <Jonii> https://gist.github.com/brodul/3178130
[18:18] <Jonii> @ te_
[18:19] <TheSov> is there a openssl package that enables the intel AES instruction set?
[18:19] <te_> Jonii: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch04.html
[18:19] <Jonii> And there are problems with that stream. It works almost completely, but I need to understand that script better to fix the problems in it :p
[18:19] <vik1231> l3rg: i type the password and it gets back to login screen
[18:19] <holstein> vik1231: with the older kernel?
[18:19] <holstein> vik1231: how about with vesa driver?
[18:19] <vik1231> te_: i am in commadline how do i pastebin it
[18:19] <Jonii> Which is the reason I'm struggling to read 6300 lines of man files
[18:19] <holstein> !paste
[18:19] <te_> vik1231: pastebinit
[18:20] <l3rg> okay, just one sec i had that problem and found the answer before.. done reinstall
[18:20] <te_> !pastebinit | vik1231
[18:20] <l3rg> don't i mean
[18:21] <te_> vik1231: For example:
[18:21] <Jonii> te_: the problems I'm having probably wouldn't be solved my swap. It seems that there's something wrong with my capture audio sample rate, I think. I would also like to tweak where and how the script captures the video it streams
[18:21] <te_> vik1231: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[18:22] <te_> Jonii: Maybe problem with video card module.
[18:22] <te_> Jonii: How did we get on the subject of swap?
[18:23] <captainchris> hi everybody
[18:23] <captainchris> anyone can help with CURL please
[18:23] <l3rg> vik1231: info about login loop here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop, the one with the check mark
[18:23] <Beldar> !ask | captainchris
[18:24] <captainchris> when i use curl on command line it work but when i wrote a code, it doesn't work
[18:24] <captainchris> http://pastebin.com/NbBiZGQf
[18:24] <vik1231> l3rg: yeah i tried those , still same problem
[18:24] <te_> vik1231: ls -l .Xauthority
[18:26] <te_> vik1231: df
[18:27] <Jonii> swap as in change, te_
[18:27] <te_> O
[18:28] <trism> TheSov: from what I am reading it seems that aes-ni should just work automatically in >=1.0.1, there are some tests to compare speeds a few posts down here you might try: http://openssl.6102.n7.nabble.com/having-a-lot-of-troubles-trying-to-get-AES-NI-working-td44285.html
[18:29] <te_> vik1231: Without more specific information we can't give you any more specific advise.
[18:30] <vik1231> te_: my friend is on chat using his computer , so its taking time :(
[18:31] <Progster> is there a way, besides reinstalling, to reset all users and groups to default?
[18:32] <Jonii> What is Display.screen number of my X11 server?
[18:32] <te_> vik1231: Oh, I see.  Well, you could speed things up a bit:  Tell him to do:  sudo apt-get install irssi  #Join this channel.
[18:33] <wols_> Jonii: run "env | grep DISPLAY" in a xterm. you will see a number like 0:0 at the end. this is
[18:33] <te_> vik1231: He can use another tty to pastebinit
[18:33] <wols_> Progster: no
[18:34] <te_> vik1231: Alt-RightArrow  and then Alt-LeftArrow to come back here
[18:35] <Jordan_U> wols_: Why not simply "echo $DISPLAY"?
[18:35] <Seveas> Progster: what do you mean with 'reset to default'? Just removing all their files should do that.
[18:35] <vik1231> te_: oh it seems he is using data-card to connect to internet , and he cant setup data card in ubuntu without getting into unity . So , i will get back to u once he gets access to LAN
[18:36] <vik1231> te_: sorry for that
[18:36] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome JokesOnYou77
[18:38] <JokesOnYou77> I'm setting up a multi-user system and I'm trying to set up git.  If I git config --global user.emal foo@bar will that effect any other user on the system?  Then I can let everyone else do it for themselves on their own accounts?  And, will everyone have to make their own keys for their own account with git ssh?
[18:39] <te_> vik1231: Oh, ok.  Well, just tell him to look at the log, tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log  And look to see who owns .Xauthority (ls -l .Xauthority)  And tell him to look at the output of df for the higest % Use collumn
[18:39] <Jonii> wols_: okay, I think I understand. It's :0.0 right?
[18:39] <Jonii> And if I had HDMI cable to connect my TV, that TV would be :0.1, right?
[18:40] <vik1231> te_: will do and tell u
[18:40] <te_> vik1231: If he as a full partition, that could be the problem.
[18:43] <yvnu> im trying to re-install grub after installing windows 8, i get an error: failed to get canonical path of /cow any help ?
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> yvnu: did you try a sudo update-grub ?
[18:44] <yvnu> yes also same error
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> yvnu: is this an uefi machine?
[18:46] <yvnu> yes
[18:46] <alami> hello, can i restor my ubuntu 14.04 to some days ago, i have networking issue, and i can't stop networking restart does not help
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | yvnu maybe this can help?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> alami: whats your issue exactly with network?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> alami: cable? wifi? updated recently?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !restoregrub | yvnu
[18:48] <wols_> Jonii: only if the hdmi would be the 2nd monitor
[18:48] <alami> lotuspsychje: i want to install inssider and was not succsefful and now i don't have networking
[18:49] <alami> lotuspsychje the inferfaces are shut down
[18:49] <Beldar> yvnu, If you use the bootrepair from that link save the url to the bootinfo summary.
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> alami: whats inssider?
[18:49] <alami> lotuspsychje: service networking stop show can't stop networking
[18:49] <yvnu> Ok
[18:49] <RustyShackleford> I'm about to give up and just use legacy boot instead of UEFI
[18:49] <RustyShackleford> but i'll ask one more time
[18:49] <alami> lotuspsychje: that's a wireless monitorring tool
[18:50] <RustyShackleford> I can't seem to boot the ubuntu installer from usb in UEFI mode
[18:50] <RustyShackleford> works fine in legacy boot
[18:50] <BananaManLinux> if i backup ubuntu with norton ghost, will I have a problem?
[18:50] <RustyShackleford> however, my windows is installed with uefi enabled
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> alami: did you check your additional driver list for wifi drivers?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> RustyShackleford: secureboot set to OFF?
[18:50] <HickoryDickory> I'm having a problem. Who will help me?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> !ask | HickoryDickory
[18:50] <BananaManLinux> quick :p
[18:50] <Corvette> Hey everyone. So I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS right now on my main machine, which has a GTX670. I'm using the Nvidia proprietary drivers (latest) and I've never managed to fix the vertical tearing issue. I see that Ubuntu 14.04 boasts "a 50% performance increase with nvidia proprietary drivers", is that likely to solve it?
[18:51] <HickoryDickory> !patience
[18:51] <RustyShackleford> lotuspsychje, yes I did set SecureBoot to off
[18:51] <HelloWorld321> According to dpkg, I have grub2 installed.  I don't see the grub menu on bootup.  How do I make the grub menu appear?
[18:51] <alami> lotuspsychje: do you have an idea how can i repaire my system?
[18:52] <Beldar> Corvette, Kinda a guess don;t you think?
[18:52] <v0lksman> HelloWorld321: hold the shift key I believe
[18:52] <yvnu> RustyShackleford: i know it sounds retarded but try a different usb input, who knows
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> alami: check your syslogs to see network errors maybe?
[18:52] <RustyShackleford> yvnu, yeah why not?
[18:52] <Corvette> Beldar maybe, maybe not
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> alami: try uninstall the monitor tool etc..check wifi driver list
[18:53] <HelloWorld321> RustyShackleford, yvnu: that's actually pretty reasonable.  I'm surprised how many USB ports are flakey.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> alami: did you updated to latest?
[18:53] <Beldar> Corvette, 50/50 is the answer, that is not really answerable, dual boot it and see.
[18:53] <HickoryDickory> I am having a problem with the ATI drivers I installed through the control panel. After I install the ATI drivers, either gflrx or gflrx-updates, firefox scrolling is laggy. Scrolling in other applications, including Chromium, works just fine. I have an extreme preference for using Firefox, so I really want to fix this issue.
[18:53] <alami> lotuspsychje: i have uninstal the wifi tool, i have the latest update
[18:53] <RustyShackleford> one other idea
[18:53] <HelloWorld321> v0lksman: tx ... I got it
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> alami: lswh -C network what shows after driver=
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> In UEFI, there is an option to create a new boot option
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> you specify device and a file
[18:54] <BananaManLinux> if i backup ubuntu with norton ghost, will I have a problem?
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> so maybe there is a specific file to load?
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> howerver, when you install windows, the usb option works just fine
[18:54] <wescotte> I have a laptop connected to my TV via HDMI. When I close the lid it turns off the LCD (but machine doesn't sleep since I disabled it) but it also turns off the signal to the TV. How can I keep the TV running but turn the laptop LCD off?
[18:55] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, using norton from what OS?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> +me thinks why do ppl use those nightmare dualboots instead of single ubuntu install :p
[18:55] <Corvette> Beldar I know it's a possibility of yes or no, I was wondering if anyone experienced an improvement when they upgraded
[18:55] <BananaManLinux> boot from cd then backup with norton
[18:55] <alami> lotuspsychje: rt280usb, but wlan0 and eth0 is disabled
[18:55] <Beldar> Corvette, Ah, polling, not really a support thing is all.
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> alami: you have hardware switch or bios disable?
[18:56] <Corvette> Oh right, this is the support channel
[18:56] <Corvette> I should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:56] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, I doubt anyone here will answer that, there are so many open source options, and 3rd party are not supported here.
[18:56] <RustyShackleford> yvnu, dude I don't fucking believe it
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> alami: check realteks website for latest wifi drivers maybe, might be firmware patch you need perhaps
[18:56] <Bashing-om> HelloWorld321: Only 1 operating system installed ? by default then the grub menu is not displayed. To see the grub menu-> as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key. What results ?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !language | RustyShackleford
[18:56] <alami> lotuspsychje: i havn't do anything, where can i check network logs?
[18:56] <dekozo> can someone tell me what should i do to downgrade php5.5 to 5.3?
[18:56] <RustyShackleford> oh I'm sorry. I got a little excited
[18:57] <RustyShackleford> because yvnu's advice actually worked
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> alami: try /var/log/syslog
[18:57] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, I use clonezilla, but it just saves in packages, not a mirror.
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> alami: or tail -f /var/log/syslog and mess around with network a bit in realtime
[18:57] <RustyShackleford> yvnu, i had very little faith that a different usb port would actually work
[18:58] <BananaManLinux> will norton ghost backup ubuntu? answer: Yes, the image software (like ghost) makes an image of the hard drive. It doesn't matter what is on the hard drive.
[18:58] <BananaManLinux> yay!
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !clone | BananaManLinux
[18:58] <wols_> BananaManLinux: or use clonezilla
[18:59] <BananaManLinux> clonezilla?
[18:59] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, Just be aware this is support for stuff in the ubuntu repos, not 3rd party software.
[18:59] <jhutchins> BananaManLinux: Free software Norton was patterned after.
[18:59] <BananaManLinux> okay
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: you want a nice backup of ubuntu right, wols idea provides it
[19:00] <wols_> jhutchins: clonezilla came after ghost, way after
[19:00] <BananaManLinux> thanks!
[19:01] <jhutchins> wols_: I seem to remember it differently, I'll go look it up.
[19:01] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, Imaging is a good thing, you're on the right track. ;)
[19:01] <BananaManLinux> i already have a backup of windows but wanna do a backup of ubuntu
[19:01] <BananaManLinux> :p
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: aptoncd can also help store your fav packages
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: clean install of ubuntu will only take half n hour
[19:02] <OneWithWaves> Hello everyone! Would one of you be so kind as to help me with a graphics issue on my seedbox?
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> OneWithWaves: ask away mate
[19:03] <OneWithWaves> I'm running Xubuntu (14.04, I'm pretty sure) but the Xubuntu channel is dead...
[19:03] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, Address the issue, and post the graphic hardware info.
[19:03] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Aegir Quit)
[19:04] <OneWithWaves> Anyway, I'm getting a black screen on login. The screen is receiving a signal but it's just black and I can only interact with the system via Ctrl+Alt+F1. The system is a stock AcerPowerF2B
[19:04] <OneWithWaves> I'm looking up the graphics chipset on that right now...
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> OneWithWaves: did you try failsafeX from recoverymode?
[19:04] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, run lspci in a tty if needed and post the graphic card,
[19:05] <OneWithWaves> Graphics is an Intel 82865G embedded
[19:05] <OneWithWaves> How do I go about trying FailsafeX in recovery? Via root prompt?
[19:06] <HickoryDickory> I am having a problem that is connected with the ATI driver. After installing the ATI driver from the control panel, either fglrx or fglrx-updates, scrolling in Firefox becomes laggy. Scrolling in other applications, like XChat or Chromium, is not affected. I have a strong preference for Firefox, so I'd like to fix this issue.
[19:07] <yvnu1> RustyShackleford: tht's great man.
[19:07] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, choose the recovery and you will see it in the gui.
[19:08] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: What is the graphics card you are running ?
[19:08] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Intel 82865G embedded
[19:08] <OneWithWaves> Right now the only options I have in recovery are resume/clean/dpkg/fsck/grub/network/root/system-summary
[19:08] <daftykins> wrong guy :)
[19:09] <OneWithWaves> Beldar and I are having issues with the same graphics chipset :)
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Beldar: Thanks, Going to be thorny, huh .. Intel should have full support right out of the box, no ?
[19:09] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, This the recovery from the grub menu?
[19:09] <a_> hello
[19:09] <a_> is anyone here?
[19:09] <OneWithWaves> Yes it is, Beldar.
[19:09] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, I am using a R9 290 graphics card. I am running ubuntu 14.04 64 bit desktop.
[19:10] <OneWithWaves> Or, at least Ubuntu (advanced options)
[19:10] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Kinda strange there was a bug around precise times, but was fixed.
[19:10] <daftykins> a_: yes you can tell by all the speaking... if you have a question ask away on one line
[19:10] <Beldar> !nomodeset | OneWithWaves same thing basically
[19:10] <Beldar> a_, Many post the issues for help. ;)
[19:11] <OneWithWaves> Excellent. Thanks everyone.
[19:12] <Beldar> OneWithWaves> Beldar and I are having issues with the same graphics chipset :) I have no problems, just a confirmation.
[19:12] <Beldar> not with my computers anyway, hehe
[19:13] <a_> i have a dell inspiron  n5110 laptop that comes with a sandy-bridge intel core i processor with integrated graphics card and a dedicated nvidia card, i was attempting to boot ubuntu 14.04 interminal mode, changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub to "text" or "acpi = force" or even "nomodeset" would result in excessive use of the dedicated nvidia card, any advice on what parameters work best for optimus technology?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: I guess we can look and see if there is even a driver loaded; pastebin -> sudo lshw -C display <- to see what we are working with.
[19:14] <daftykins> a_: you need to look into running nvidia-prime or bumblebee
[19:15] <OneWithWaves> One more question - I have my desktop back! It's beautiful! Now how do I go about preventing the issue from cropping up again? Permanently changing my GRUB config?
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>  Bashing-om, *-display
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        description: VGA compatible controller
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        product: Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290]
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        physical id: 0
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[19:16] <unopaste> HickoryDickory you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:17] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, you would change /etc/default/grub if you want that .
[19:17] <Beldar> the update-grub
[19:17] <Beldar> then*
[19:17] <OneWithWaves> The only reason I ask is because I'm about to do a distro upgrade and never needed the option previously...
[19:17] <OneWithWaves> So I'm wondering if that's the "right way" to fix it or if I should be looking into drivers or something.
[19:18] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, I don't know if my previous message was properly displayed, so here it is again http://paste.ubuntu.com/7498669/
[19:19] <Bashing-om> a_: As daftykins advises, see: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html , https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee .
[19:19] <wilhelm1> Where is hardware layer support offered?
[19:19] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: Look'n at /7498669 .
[19:19] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, The good thing is you have the desktop, intel usually works, so you have some time to work on this.
[19:21] <OneWithWaves> Beldar, is doing a dist-upgrade a bad idea now then?
[19:22] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, be careful dist-upgrade has a specific meaning, and it is not a release upgrade. I never upgrade so I can't really say.
[19:22] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: Says " configuration: driver=fglrx_pci" you are running ATI card with a proprietary driver, how did you install the driver ?
[19:23] <OneWithWaves> Beldar, my mistake for not having a good concept of the difference between the terminal and GUI upgrade routes. I was planning on using the automatic GUI updater to upgrade to 14.04... I have several Xubuntu systems and this one has been out of commission for a while.
[19:23] <bekks> OneWithWaves: I'd use the terminal way, since X might be restarted, crashing the gui, crashing the update.
[19:24] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, I installed the driver using the control panel. I found the option in "Software & Updates" under the "Additional Drivers" tab.
[19:24] <simpleuser> Could someone help me with this please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225456 My eyes are bleeding :'(
[19:25] <OneWithWaves> bekks, thanks - I'll stay here for a bit then and work on this...
[19:25] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: That is proper, OK - again tell us the nature of the problem (yeah one more time, please).
[19:25] <wilhelm1> simpleuser: bleeding?
[19:25] <simpleuser> wilhelm1: Can’t reduce the brightness of my screen.
[19:25] <simpleuser> That’s terrible.
[19:26] <wilhelm1> simpleuser: napkins
[19:26] <simpleuser> I need to half close my eyes.
[19:26] <Beldar> simpleuser, Did you update-grub after altering that?
[19:26] <simpleuser> Beldar: Yes.
[19:26] <Beldar> cool
[19:26] <simpleuser> sudo update-grub and restart.
[19:26] <wilhelm1> simpleuser: paper towel
[19:26] <yvnu1> Beldar: here's the boot-info http://paste.ubuntu.com/7498691/
[19:26] <Beldar> thanks yvnu1
[19:27] <daftykins> simpleuser: i've also seen a thread which applies both the =vendor edit and the acpi_osi, however instead of putting "acpi_osi=Linux" they just leave it as acpi_osi=
[19:27] <JACK3viso> Ciao a tutti quelli del canale :)
[19:28] <rww> ubottu: it
[19:28] <Beldar> yvnu1, The recommended repair may fix it as I read at the bottom it's intentions.
[19:28] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, Whenever I install either the fglrx or fglrx-updates driver, I experience laggy scrolling in Firefox. I do not experience laggy scrolling in Firefox when I am using the default open source driver. Even though I am experiencing laggy scrolling in Firefox, I do not experience any laggy scrolling in either Chromium or XChat. I do not know if any other applications would experience laggy scrolling.
[19:28] <simpleuser> daftykins: Oh. Thanks. Gonna try that.
[19:29] <Beldar> yvnu1, what is in sda6?
[19:30] <Beldar> a recovery partition?
[19:30] <yvnu1> yes it's the hp oem recovery
[19:30] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: Don't know, as FireFox is the only ap affected .. maybe (re-)install FireFox and see what results ?
[19:31] <wilhelm1> Is that list of 'psychiatrists' ready?
[19:31] <rww> HickoryDickory: Turn off smooth scrolling and/or hardware acceleration in Firefox advanced preferences
[19:31] <rww> lastlog -clear
[19:31] <rww> oops
[19:32] <Beldar> yvnu1, Cool I just see part of the bcd boot, I would try the recommended. There is a thread at the ubuntu forums by the developer of the bootrepair app where this stuff is the focus and has fast answers, the link is on the apps wiki.
[19:32] <wilhelm1> Military operations on civilian land requires this list.
[19:32] <rww> wilhelm1: Do you have an Ubuntu support question we can help you with? If not, please keep the channel clear of offtopic comments. Thanks :)
[19:33] <fellayaboy> is it possible to install a .cer ceriticate
[19:34] <fellayaboy> x.509 cert?
[19:34] <bekks> fellayaboy: For sure it is. But it depends on the use case on how to do it.
[19:34] <fellayaboy> well its for a pidgin plugin.. pidgin-sipe...
[19:35] <fellayaboy> microsoft office communicator plugin for pidgin
[19:35] <fellayaboy> it needs to install a ceriticate from our company to be able to use it
[19:35] <fellayaboy> it works on windows and on macs
[19:35] <wilhelm1> Is Ubuntu going to support me?
[19:35] <fellayaboy> brb
[19:35] <bekks> wilhelm1: Ask an ubuntu support question and find out.
[19:36] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, deselecting smooth scrolling in Firefox removes the lagginess. Scrolling is now responsive. The Hardware Acceleration option has no perceptible effect on the scrolling. Of course, the scrolling is now choppy. I am wondering if and how I can make smooth scrolling work under Firefox while maintaining the responsiveness that Chromium and other applications have, all while using the ATI driver.
[19:37] <rww> HickoryDickory: Doubtful. fglrx is not as good at 2D acceleration as the open-source drivers, and it's closed-source so we can't improve it, so you get fun problems like that.
[19:37] <wilhelm1> What is the status of ubuntuone?
[19:37] <Beldar> HickoryDickory, Might be worth asking in #firefox  just guess however.
[19:37] <kvess> Going to buy a new graphics card, presumably a GTX 760 or 770. Does it make any difference if I go with a MSI, Gainward, Gigabyte or other rebranding, from a driver compatiblity point of view?
[19:38] <rww> wilhelm1: https://one.ubuntu.com/services/shutdown/ is still accurate
[19:38] <wols_> kvess: no. but noise is and can be different
[19:38] <Beldar> kvess, Technically polling is not allowed here, might get some answer though.
[19:38] <rww> I don't think that's polling?
[19:39] <Beldar> rww, cool, my bad. ;)
[19:39] <bekks> wilhelm1: Whats your specific ubuntu support question?
[19:39] <kvess> Regardless, I didn't know that, which means I have some rules to read. :)
[19:40] <Beldar> rww, looks that way to me, but I like seeing people get support in general.
[19:40] <rww> Beldar: If it had been "which of these brands should I go with" or "which chipset should I get", it would be. Asking if Ubuntu cares which brand he gets from a driver POV isn't really.
[19:41] <wilhelm1> rww: Why is it shut down?
[19:41] <wilhelm1> bekks: Is ubuntu capable of specific nano production?
[19:41] <rww> wilhelm1: See the link I gave you and the blog post it links to. #ubuntu cannot answer further questions that aren't covered there, as it's a Canonical matter and we are not Canonical employees.
[19:41] <Beldar> rww, Fine line yeah, I will not jump so fast, and reflect befpre doing so. ;)
[19:41] <bekks> wilhelm1: If you are, Ubuntu is.
[19:46] <wilhelm1> bekks: What is this python3 used for?
[19:47] <rww> wilhelm1: It's an interpreted programming language, used for scripting and writing programs.
[19:47] <bekks> wilhelm1: Thats not related to Ubuntu issues. You can easily find out what Python is and what it is used for.
[19:47] <bugtraq> HOla
[19:47] <wilhelm1> I know what it is.
[19:47] <bekks> wilhelm1: Then why do you ask?
[19:47] <rww> wilhelm1: Good. Now you know what it's used for too.
[19:47] <dweez> rww: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[19:47] <nomic> python is all you need to know
[19:48] <wilhelm1> The question differs from what it is.
[19:48] <wilhelm1> I asked what it is used for by ubuntu
[19:48] <bekks> wilhelm1: You did not ask that. And the use cases stay the same.
[19:49] <wilhelm1> bekks: you did not, I did
[19:49] <wilhelm1> I know the context
[19:49] <wilhelm1> It was asked for Ubuntu support questions.
[19:49] <bekks> wilhelm1: I dont think you know about what you are talking. I will set you on ignore.
[19:49] <Jonii> So, I still don't know what is going on and where to ask
[19:49] <Jonii> So i ask here
[19:49] <Jonii> libav has this thing called avconv, which I use to stream to twitch
[19:49] <wilhelm1> Python is not ubuntu specific.
[19:50] <BananaManLinux> who was it who said to me clonezilla?
[19:50] <wilhelm1> So asking: What is this python3 used for is in context of Ubuntu
[19:50] <rww> BananaManLinux: 18:58:58 < wols_> BananaManLinux: or use clonezilla
[19:50] <rww> wilhelm1: why?
[19:50] <BananaManLinux> wols, can i message you?
[19:50] <Jonii> avconv has many settings and 6300 lines long man page which I'm still in the process of reading. Anyhow, I tried to solve twitch problem by changing my audio bitrate into something smaller, because twitch video seemed to jump ahead way too fast(like, 60s of video was played back in 10s)
[19:50] <wilhelm1> There is also python 2 on Ubuntu so it was a specific question.
[19:50] <BananaManLinux> it's a bit OT to say here.
[19:51] <Jonii> As a result, the video plays back in proper speed, and audio quality is superb, but video quality dropped into shit. Anyone here who can help me? :3
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Jonii: Try asking in #libav .
[19:52] <Jonii> Jordan_U: ty
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Jonii: You're welcome.
[19:54] <alami> hello, when i run dpkg -l | network, i see that network-manager is rc, and i don't have networking on ubuntu 14.04, is that the PRoblem?
[19:54] <wilhelm1> What we can do is setup a bot to convert documents to text
[19:54] <wilhelm1> That is supportive
[19:55] <wilhelm1> Is ubuntu capable of delivering fresh baked bread?
[19:55] <wilhelm1> On a daily basis.
[19:58] <alami> hello, when i run dpkg -l | network, i see that network-manager is rc, and i don't have networking on ubuntu 14.04, is that the PRoblem?
[19:58] <Bashing-om> alami: "rc" is component  "removed, config files remain". Not generally a problem. Do you want to remove ALL 'rc' marked files ?
[20:00] <alami> Bashing-om: i want to install for two days a packet, after that i don't have networking
[20:01] <alami> and without networking i can't do anything,
[20:01] <alami> ithink the best practice is to reinstall
[20:02] <Jordan_U> alami: Why did you remove network-manager?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> alami: I understand that you have removed "network-manager" and now have no networking capability. you now need 'networking' restored ?
[20:03] <alami> Jordan_U: i havn't remove it, i want to install a packet names inssider, and it have remove network-manager, i think if i download network manager and install it from usb with dpkg will solve the problem
[20:03] <alami> what do you think?
[20:03] <alami> Bashing-om: yes
[20:05] <freijon> alami: are you on ethernet or wifi?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> alami: -> Jordan_U :: bring up networking manually prior to installing 'network-manager' ??
[20:06] <alami> Bashing-om: don't work, i have tryed ifocnfig eth0 up and ifconfig wlan0 up but can't have ip adress and connect to the internet
[20:06] <alami> freijon: i use wireless to join the internet
[20:06] <Hilikus> hi guys
[20:06] <Jordan_U> alami: THe word you're looking for is "package". Packets and Packages are two different things.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> alami: While considerations are in progress, what returns from terminal command -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- .
[20:07] <alami> Jordan_U:lol Sorry i miss write that
[20:07] <Hilikus> i was in the middle of a distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 and by accident i pressed ctrl-alt-del which it seems killed the X server. the update was in the processes of installing all the new packages. now i do apt-get upgrade and it says everything is up to date, but it can't be, i stopped it in the middle
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: Was it still downloading, or was it actually installing them?
[20:08] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: download was finished, it was installing
[20:09] <wols_> Hilikus: dist-upgrade
[20:09] <Hilikus> according to the oprogress bar, around 60%
[20:09] <alami> Bashing-om: network unreacheble
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: I wouldn't be surprised if update-manager continues the upgrade process even if X dies. How long after killing X did you try to use apt-get? Maybe it had already finished by that point (running in the background).
[20:10] <Guest35724> hi
[20:10] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: i guess it's possible, maybe 5 minutes after
[20:10] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: is there an update log?
[20:11] <freijon> Hilikus: are the entries in /etc/sources.list still pointing to the old version?
[20:11] <yvnu1> doesn't apt-get update only update the software package sources info?
[20:11] <freijon> /etc/apt/sources.list I guess it is
[20:11] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: /var/log/dist-upgrade/ IIRC.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> alami: Small steps to an end what is in the file: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ? managed=false ??
[20:12] <Hilikus> freijon: sources.list points to trusty
[20:12] <Hilikus> but that's one of the first steps in the process
[20:12] <Guest35724> http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Chumz
[20:13] <freijon> so I guess if you run apt-get update and nothing shows up that all went fine
[20:14] <alami> Bashing-om managed= falde
[20:14] <alami> Bashing-om managed= false
[20:16] <alami> Bashing-om: mywlan0 is up, and iwlist wlan0 scan show no scan results
[20:16] <alami> install network-managet will solve this Problem?
[20:18] <Bashing-om> alami: Good, now what -> /etc/network/interfaces ? auto eth1 , iface eth1 inet dhcp. Where 'eth1' is the wired interface (maybe eth0). ??
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Guest35724: Unsolicited links like that are assumed to be spam. If you don't reply explaining with a good alternate explanation for that link in the next 60 seconds I'm going to ban you. Feel free to appeal the ban in #ubuntu-ops.
[20:18] <alami> Bashing-om: i don't use my eth0, i use my wlan0
[20:18] <Guest35724> It's a book I have for sale
[20:19] <Guest35724> I'm sorry about that
[20:19] <Guest35724> Am new to Chat
[20:19] <Bashing-om> alami: No good way to install any package untill we get networking up.
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Guest35724: That would be spam. Please don't post such things in the future. This channel is for Ubuntu technical support questions and answers only.
[20:19] <Bashing-om> alami: You do not have a wired connection ?
[20:19] <Guest35724> Forgive me for that Jordan
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Guest35724: I won't ban you this time since you're not just a spam bot (as most such posts are from).
[20:19] <Guest35724> ok will do
[20:20] <alami> Bashing-om: nope, but i can use usb stick and my laptop to install packages
[20:20] <alami> Bashing-om: or a new installation will save time?
[20:21] <Guest35724> ok Thank You...
[20:22] <Bashing-om> alami: upfront from me, I have no experience with WIFI, Might be that you can (re-)install 'network-manager' via USB, never done it, can not say.
[20:24] <alami> Bashing-om: i have try to download netwok-manager but after i try dpkg -i, i have to isntall other packages, is there a way to download network-manager with all depencies ..?
[20:26] <Jordan_U> alami: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[20:27] <Jordan_U> s3ri0us: Please avoid noisy nick changing in large channels like #ubuntu. You can simply use "/away Reason" without creating noise.
[20:27] <igor__> hello, my wifi doesnt work it said tells me connection activation failed
[20:27] <alami> Jordan_U: i don't have internet, i want to download the package with all it's dependency
[20:28] <Jordan_U> !offline | alami
[20:29] <Jordan_U> alami: Note that installing via dpkg will *not* change the fact that inSSIDer conflicts with network-manager. You can have one or the other installed, not both.
[20:29] <igor__> cannot connect to wifi, connection activation failed help?
[20:30] <Beldar> igor__, Helps to have the actual wifi hardware posted, and some details/context for help. ;)
[20:31] <igor__> well i downloaded ubuntu on mac book pro, i see the wifi and press it and it goes connection acivation failed
[20:31] <Beldar> igor__, Run lspci in the terminal and find the wifi info to post.
[20:33] <igor__> PCIe 1394b Controller (rev 08)
[20:33] <igor__> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[20:33] <igor__> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[20:33] <igor__> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP89 [GeForce 320M] (rev a2)
[20:34] <Beldar> !broadcom | igor__
[20:34] <igor__> so everything i need is on there
[20:34] <igor__> ?
[20:45] <aman> hi
[20:46] <Guest80578> hiiiiii
[20:46] <YuLin> hello :)
[20:47] <Guest80578> :p
[20:48] <mario_> hello channel ubuntu Italy ? than you
[20:48]  * dekozo detachou
[20:48] <Guest80578> italy?
[20:50] <Guest80578> is it possible to install xcode in ubuntu??
[20:52] <alsetema> hello
[20:52] <alsetema> is anyone willing to help me?
[20:52] <bekks> alsetema: you have to ask a support question first :)
[20:53] <sudormrf> Guest80578, no
[20:54] <alsetema> true , sporry
[20:55] <sudormrf> Guest80578, someone was working on an OSX wine type emulator, but I don't think that thing was even close to ready last time I read about it.
[20:55] <alsetema> so, i have this printer the canon pixma mp140  and I want to install its drivers as its instructions say in this webpage http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-drivers-for-canon-printers-pixma-mp-series-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-linux-mint-17-qiana-and-their-derivative-systems/                 but when I try to install the last command the sudo apt-get install  (printer driver here) terminal says:
[20:56] <alsetema> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[20:56] <alsetema>  cnijfilter-mp140series:i386 : Depende: libtiff4:i386 (> 3.9.5-3~) pero no es instalable
[20:56] <alsetema> E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos.
[20:56] <alsetema> well, it is in spanish but in conclusion it says those packages are broken
[20:59] <trndr> alsetma, I don't understand spanish, but it seems like the driver depends on libtiff4:i386 (> 3.9.5-3~), which probably can be installed with sudo apt-get install libtiff4:i386
[21:00] <alsetema> let me try that wait a second
[21:01] <l3rg> alsetema: or you can do `sudo apt-get install  (printer driver here) -y`
[21:02] <alsetema> trndr, it doesnt work it says the package doesnt have a candidate for installation
[21:02] <alsetema> or at least that says my bad translation of it
[21:03] <alsetema> l3rg, It doesnt work , the thing is it needs libtiff4:i386 to work and i cant manage a way to make it work
[21:04] <alsetema> i just can't make it run , It says the package is broken
[21:04] <alsetema> let me google translate that+
[21:05] <trndr> alsetema, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1857025.html
[21:05] <alsetema> trndr,  the terminal says this The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:05] <alsetema>   cnijfilter-mp140series: i386: Depends: libtiff4: i386 (> 3.9.5-3 ~) but it is not installable
[21:05] <alsetema> E: They could not fix the problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:07] <l3rg> alsetema: on my box it says it is referred to by another package, is obsoleted or only available on from another  source, so it likely exists, you just have to find out what source it's from
[21:07] <alsetema> l3rg, is that it?
[21:08] <alsetema> let me try
[21:08] <jhutchins> alsetema: Rather than having to translate, try something like LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install
[21:09] <jhutchins> alsetema: Do you have ppd's installed?  Do you have global/universal enabled?
[21:09] <alsetema> jhutchins,
[21:09] <alsetema> i have
[21:09] <alsetema> but I would like to know a way of checking out
[21:10] <jhutchins> alsetema: Is cnjfilter-thingie a third party package?
[21:11] <alsetema> i'm not shure jhutchins but the ppa is this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-trunk but im quite a newby to ubuntu
[21:12] <alsetema> jhutchins, if you want to know the steps I am following are from this webpage     http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-drivers-for-canon-printers-pixma-mp-series-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-linux-mint-17-qiana-and-their-derivative-systems/
[21:14] <BananaManLinux> clonezilla is too hard to use, norton ftw.
[21:14] <BananaManLinux> and out! ;)
[21:14] <jhutchins> alsetema: Ok, I think the problem is probably that Cannon is only providing a driver for Debian, and possibly for an older release at that.
[21:14] <l3rg> alsetema:Y
[21:15] <jhutchins> alsetema: There is a native CUPS driver for it, use that with the gutenprint option and see if it works.
[21:15] <jhutchins> alsetema: It does for some people.
[21:15] <alsetema> jhutchins,  let me try it
[21:16] <jhutchins> I don't see the source code from Cannon, so you can't recompile for your platform.
[21:17] <jhutchins> alsetema: That page says http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-drivers-for-canon-printers-pixma-mp-series-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-linux-mint-17-qiana-and-their-derivative-systems/
[21:17] <jhutchins> Grr...
[21:18] <jhutchins> "The Canon drivers are available via Michael Gruz.s PPA, but unfortunately they require the libtiff4 library, which is not available via the default repositories of Ubuntu 14.04". It explains how to work around that.
[21:19] <alsetema> jhutchins, l3rg  and trndr  i installed the cups driver and works perfctly fine thanks anyway
[21:20] <alsetema> good bye!
[21:32] <minty> hey my resolution is messed up only one exits around 640 x 480
[21:33] <justme123> So I managed to successfully install Ubuntu server on server. There are still one issue to solve...
[21:33] <justme123> I het a "this video mode is not supported" when grub is displayed.
[21:34] <justme123> Actually geub is not displayed bit the error is.
[21:34] <minty> hey my resolution is messed up only one exits around 640 x 480
[21:34] <jhutchins> minty: Which release are you on?  What hardware do you have?
[21:34] <l3rg>  justme123: is it in VirtualBox?
[21:34] <justme123> By oressing rNdom keys on the keyboard it went on to boot into command prompt. I was able to sudo upgrade and update etc
[21:34] <minty> 14-04
[21:34] <minty> ubuntu
[21:35] <minty> i have a mac book pro
[21:35] <jhutchins> !mac
[21:35] <jhutchins> minty: You may not have the correct video driver for some reason.
[21:35] <justme123> It is 14-04 that I installed straight onto the server.
[21:35] <minty> so how do i get the right one
[21:36] <daftykins> minty: download the ISO with 14.94, 64-bit mac in the name
[21:36] <daftykins> *14.04
[21:36] <minty> wait so i redownload ubuntu ur saying
[21:37] <justme123> I then went on to download and install desktop but the GUI caused the same error message.
[21:38] <justme123> I am thinking to dona clean install but specifying video=257 for vesa 640x480 256 color so that perhpas I can at least see the geub options.
[21:38] <justme123> grub*
[21:38] <justme123> I dont know if it will work.
[21:39] <Joe_knock> Hello
[21:39] <Joe_knock> Hello
[21:39] <justme123> I am also searching for a pci or pci-x video add-on video card and see if that will give better results.
[21:40] <justme123> I wish there was a way to bypass grub from a clean install so that the server boots straight into command line
[21:41] <Bashing-om> justme123: One has to have a boot loader to load an operating system, grub is better than most.
[21:41] <minty> so what do i do to fix my screnn resolution
[21:41] <minty> only one exists
[21:42] <Joe_knock> I have 2 ubuntu 12.04s installed on 2 PCs. My internet is a bit slow, so updates can be a headache, does anyone know how I can download the update once only?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: You have a support question ?
[21:42] <justme123> I know, I am not saying dont use grub, I am saying let there be one option in grub wgich is the default Ubuntu but that the boot process runs straight through, selecting that default and giving me the command prompt. I need this because I cannot see grub due to a video issue so I cannot do a manual selection.
[21:42] <daftykins> Joe_knock: sure i do that all the time
[21:42] <Jordan_U> minty: Did you get any error messages at boot? Have you already installed Ubuntu or are you currently using the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB environment?
[21:43] <daftykins> Joe_knock: download and install on one, then scp /var/cache/apt/archives/ from the first to the second
[21:43] <minty> i am currently usimng the ubuntu no errors and boot
[21:43] <minty> just only one exsting resolution
[21:43] <Jordan_U> minty: Did you have the same resolution issue when you were installing?
[21:43] <minty> no
[21:43] <justme123> I find solutions of editing grub but that is only once you are already in the system.
[21:44] <wilhelm1> Hi
[21:44] <minty> i used to have errors and it would freeze which i fixed by reintsaling nvidia and bumble bee but know i have a resolution problem
[21:44] <justme123> I tried to do a system reacue to get to a shell and I can get to the grub file, but I cannot edit and save it📄
[21:44] <minty> everything else is fine
[21:44] <Joe_knock> daftykins: Do I just copy whatever is in that archive folder to the other PC or is there a more sophisticated way of doing things? I don't mind installing smaller updates, but it is the chromium, FF and x86 updates that are over 30MBs that trouble me
[21:44] <wilhelm1> rc.local doesn't seem to be running
[21:45] <Jordan_U> justme123: If you don't press any key at the grub menu it will boot the default entry.
[21:45] <wilhelm1> firewall is wide open and the rules are set to restore in rc.local
[21:45] <daftykins> Joe_knock: sudo scp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb user@host:.
[21:45] <justme123> Jordan_U really? After how long?
[21:46] <wilhelm1> then there was an electrical storm
[21:46] <daftykins> Joe_knock: then on the other machine, SSH in and "sudo mv *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/" then run your upgrade
[21:46] <Joe_knock> okay so I need to SSH into the other machine
[21:46] <Jordan_U> justme123: If you only have one OS installed, immediately.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> justme123: For changing the resolution of the grub menu, see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[21:46] <Joe_knock> daftykins,
[21:47] <Joe_knock> daftykins: what does scp do as a command?
[21:47] <minty> so is anyone gonna help me fix my resolution prblem?????
[21:47] <wilhelm1> support
[21:47] <Slamd64> hello. I have strange issue with nautilus.  it shows me menubar in old style instead of being in titlebar, doesn't matter if I change appearance to show menus in window title or unity bar. here's screenshot http://imgur.com/ayOD4FX
[21:47] <justme123> Thanks for that link. Is there a way to edit grub before you log into the system?
[21:48] <Joe_knock> minty: what is the actual problem? more details help
[21:48] <wilhelm1> firewall rules need to be able to be set
[21:48] <larrypg> well e
[21:48] <trndr> Joe_knock copy through ssh
[21:48] <wilhelm1> support
[21:48] <justme123> Or an alternative way like going through a rescue option.
[21:48] <Joe_knock> I think I could also just copy the files using usb and open them with software centre.
[21:49] <broeisi> hello... how can i check in ubunut 14.04 if someone is port scanning me? ... it used to be in /var/log/messages.. but this files doesn exist anymore
[21:49] <wilhelm1> dell actually sold ubuntu?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> minty: How did you "re-install nvidia and bumblebee"?
[21:49] <minty> i purged
[21:49] <minty> and then installed
[21:49] <wilhelm1> set the firewall rules
[21:49] <Joe_knock> wilhelm1: yes, they're 1 of the few PC companies that sell ubuntu-based laptops
[21:49] <minty> it was long process but got things fixed
[21:49] <minty> only one existing resolution
[21:50] <wilhelm1> is it possible for the firewall rules to be added to rc.local?
[21:50] <l3rg>  minty: did the link the bot give you not help? I am not familiar with a mac. Have you tried any xrandr commands?
[21:50] <minty> i have tried most of them they do not help
[21:50] <wilhelm1> raytheon and northcom
[21:51] <Joe_knock> minty I'm confused, you're not being clear with what your problem is.
[21:51] <minty> i only have one resolution way too close
[21:51] <minty> cant run sum aplications cause they do not support this resolution
[21:51] <Joe_knock> minty is it 400x600 resolution?
[21:51] <wilhelm1> this system is not secure
[21:51] <daftykins> Joe_knock: secure copy over SSH
[21:51] <minty> 640 x 480
[21:52] <daftykins> Joe_knock: please use 'man scp'
[21:52] <Joe_knock> minty did you try adjusting resolution in settings manager?
[21:52] <minty> yes only one exists
[21:52] <Joe_knock> daftykins: I will just copy the files over using USB.
[21:52] <minty> the 600 400 one
[21:52] <wilhelm1> support
[21:52] <Joe_knock> minty can you screenshot this with the drop-down selected?
[21:53] <daftykins> Joe_knock: if they're networked together you're just wasting time
[21:53] <minty> how?
[21:53] <wilhelm1> It is well if the system functions as it claims.
[21:53] <minty> what and how do i screenshot
[21:53] <Joe_knock> daftykins: they're connected to the same router. I'm just trying to decide which one I should SSH into. Also, I have some packages on one that the other doesn't have.
[21:54] <Joe_knock> minty do you know how to use "Print Screen" ?
[21:54] <daftykins> Joe_knock: that won't matter, it just won't use them for updates :) it's just a download cache folder
[21:54] <minty> nope
[21:54] <minty> whats the command
[21:54] <wilhelm1> nuclear weapons
[21:54] <wilhelm1> support
[21:54] <minty> joe whats the command
[21:54] <Joe_knock> wilhelm1 is a bot?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> minty: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and the output of "dmesg".
[21:55] <wilhelm1> Joe_knock: I am commanding the bot.
[21:55] <Joe_knock> thanks daftykins, I will connect them via SSH. the system with less packages will be my "SSH into"
[21:55] <wilhelm1> Joe_knock: the system does not function as it claims.
[21:56] <wilhelm1> rc.local
[21:56] <broeisi> /qui/quit
[21:56] <minty> joe no such file in directory
[21:56] <Jordan_U> wilhelm1: You've been warned about offtopic comments already. Please stick to Ubuntu support related discussion only.
[21:56] <ailan> sorry, but i have a problem with backtrack5r3 dont see my wirelles
[21:56] <ailan> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[21:56] <Joe_knock> wilhelm1: What is 2 + 2?
[21:57] <minty> joe : no sczh file in directry
[21:57] <Jordan_U> ailan: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, not Backtrack or any other derivative distro.
[21:57] <wilhelm1> Is that the idea to just come and keep asking for support? I want to use the computer for something. Is that ok?
[21:57] <minty> such*
[21:57] <ailan> ok thenk
[21:57] <Joe_knock> Jordan_U: I think wilhelm1 needs to disappear. It feels like a bot
[21:58] <wilhelm1> Joe_knock: American made 4 cyl engine.
[21:58] <Joe_knock> that bot was possibly attempting some type of marked response (or so it seems).
[22:05] <simpleuser> For those who tried to help me with my brightness problem earlier… I found the solution! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186919 \o/
[22:05] <simpleuser> (just to say)
[22:09] <Deihmos> how can i move ubuntu from one drive to another
[22:10] <Joe_knock> Deihmos, it's complex, but you could use a command that moves server-data. I think it's called rsync
[22:10] <trism> simpleuser: you are probably seeing bug 1311297 I have the same on my eeepc, you could test 3.14 to see if that works to confirm
[22:10] <Deihmos> i figures it wouldn't be easy
[22:11] <Deihmos> guess i will just reinstall it
[22:11] <k1l> Deihmos: use dd. then extend the partitions if the 2nd drive is bigger than the first
[22:11] <Joe_knock> Deihmos, rsync isn't that complicated.
[22:12] <Joe_knock> it takes a while, but doesn't seem too difficult.
[22:12] <diegop> rsync sucks
[22:12] <JokesOnYou77> How can I add ~/bin to my path?  I think gnome-terminal does this automatically but I'm on a server with no X atm
[22:12] <Deihmos> i can reinstall it in less time it will take me to google around trying to figure things out
[22:12] <simpleuser> Thanks trism. Didn’t know :)
[22:14] <k1l> Joe_knock: rsync is not enough because it doesnt copy the grub etc
[22:14] <k1l> Deihmos: yes, installs are quite fast. if you dont need a lot time to configurate just copy your user data afterwards and you are done
[22:15] <Joe_knock> k1l: +1 to reinstalling
[22:16] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: One comman way : echo 'PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"' >> "$HOME/.bashrc" .
[22:20] <pdo_fn14> !package libvlc
[22:20] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, ty!
[22:21] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: :-) .........
[22:22] <k1l> !info libvlc | pdo_fn14
[22:22] <acpiorwhat> how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?
[22:22] <k1l> !info libvlc5 | pdo_fn14
[22:23] <pdo_fn14> k1l: Ups, thanks for correcting me. :-)
[22:30] <tiblock> Hi. I need upgrade big 70mb package and download stops at 1mb-10mb. So i want get URL and download it via donwload manager. How i can get URL for .deb file of package?
[22:30] <RubixRex> looking for developers for new website for crypto-currency news and merch https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619780.new#new
[22:36] <Bashing-om> tiblock: My prefered method to 'get' a package -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ...
[22:37] <acpiorwhat> how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?
[22:37] <educationexpress> gparted?
[22:38] <educationexpress> have you tried ......gparted?
[22:38] <Zekirdek>  hi there how to back python3 to python 2.7
[22:39] <tiblock> Bashing-om, thank you
[22:39] <tiblock> and whats about this ping disconnect thing by the way?
[22:39] <Zekirdek> ping
[22:39] <acpiorwhat> educationexpress, are you talking to me?
[22:39] <tiblock> Zekirdek, are you sure theres no "python2" binary?
[22:39] <educationexpress> yes
[22:39] <trndr> Zekirdek, you should have both
[22:39] <acpiorwhat> gparted to format a floppy? that seems overkill
[22:41] <acpiorwhat> are floppy disks supported by 14.04?
[22:42] <daftykins> acpiorwhat: you could do it command line
[22:42] <acpiorwhat> daftykins, how?
[22:43] <Lunito> Hi, when I try to install "postfixadmin", apt wants to install mysql-server because "postgresql-server" isn't satisfied, but postgresql-9.3 is installed. On trusty.
[22:43] <daftykins> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/floppy maybe?
[22:43] <Lunito> i think there is a bug that postgresql-9.3 doesn't provide the "symbol" postgresql-server
[22:44] <wilhelm1> Stinky-Feet
[22:45] <zhuang> dpkg-checkbuilddeps shows me unmet dependencies, but I'd like to understand where they come from. where should I look?
[22:45] <acpiorwhat> daftykins, /dev/floppy does not exist
[22:46] <daftykins> acpiorwhat: so check /dev for fd0 or floppy0 or something similar
[22:46] <Lunito> how can i install a package but ignore one of its dependencies?
[22:46] <daftykins> acpiorwhat: use your loaf!
[22:46] <trism> zhuang: debian/control
[22:46] <Lunito> i tried apt-get install --ignore-missing
[22:47] <acpiorwhat> loaf?
[22:47] <wilhelm1> lectrick storms
[22:47] <zhuang> trism: where is that?
[22:47] <zhuang> trism: found it
[22:48] <acpiorwhat> daftykins, /dev/floppy and /dev/fd0 do not exist
[22:48] <wilhelm1> Sharon Gazi
[22:48] <pdo_fn14> !package pdfedit
[22:50] <ataloss> I am not sure if this is off topic, but I have scoured the web for answers with no luck. I am having issue installing ubuntu. Can anyone please help.
[22:52] <ataloss> **WARNING** I AM ABOUT TO SPAM EVERYONE UNTIL SOMEONE RESPONDS
[22:53] <pdo_fn14> !patience | ataloss
[22:53] <ataloss> THANKS
[22:53] <qin> !caps
[22:53] <ataloss> sorry thanks
[22:54] <qin> What  issue?
[22:55] <diegop> why is ubuntu so buggy? so many bugs like that all the day
[22:55] <ataloss> i keep getting an error at the end of the install of ubuntu
[22:55] <qin> diegop: So buggy? Compering to what?
[22:56] <qin> ataloss: What error?
[22:56] <TJ-> Lunito: I agree; there's no package that "Provides: postgresql-server" that 'postfixadmin' has as a "Recommends:"
[22:56] <trndr> ataloss, unless you specify in detail what the error is and what the consequenses are, noone can help
[22:57] <Zekirdek> how to removed prgrams?
[22:57] <Zekirdek> apt-get uninstall x
[22:57] <Zekirdek> its ok?
[22:57] <Zekirdek>  Invalid operation uninstall
[22:58] <TJ-> Zekirdek: "sudo apt-get remove $PACKAGE"
[22:58] <qin> Zekirdek: man apt-get; won't hurt you either
[22:58] <quadHelix> did I miss the error message?
[22:59] <quadHelix> ataloss?
[23:01] <Bashing-1m> Zekirdek: Depending on how much of the ap you want removed; -> sudo apt-get remove <application_name>  , sudo apt-get purge <application_name> ....
[23:06] <zhuang_> does autotool generate debian/control file?
[23:07] <ataloss> 05-21 16:17 ERROR  root: Could not remove: C:\ubuntu\install\ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso Traceback (most recent call last):   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 426, in download_iso OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\ubuntu\\install\\ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso' 05-21 16:17 DEBUG  TaskList: New task download 05-21 16:17 DEBUG  TaskList: ### Running download... 05-21 16:17 DEBUG  downloader: downloading 
[23:07] <ataloss> any ideas
[23:08] <quadHelix> ataloss, did you install ubuntu or are you trying the live CD?
[23:09] <ataloss> I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 and attempted to install it. this is the result. I am not tech savvy so yeah
[23:11] <yolo`> does javascript and jquery works offline on ubuntu ??
[23:11] <yolo`> where can i download the lib ?
[23:11] <aarobc> yolo`: um yeah...
[23:11] <quadHelix> ataloss, if you have not installed ubuntu previously, your best bet will most likely be to "try Ubuntu" and verify that all your hardware works
[23:11] <yolo`> um yeah ?
[23:12] <yolo`> aarobc,  ?
[23:12] <quadHelix> ataloss, the 'try ubuntu' option will boot from the CD and no files will be copied to your HDD
[23:12] <aarobc> yolo`: javascript is rendered in the browser
[23:14] <cyborgcygnus> Anybody know any good parental control software?
[23:14] <cyborgcygnus> I want to set the days & hours that a child can use the computer.
[23:14] <trndr> ataloss, did you download a iso and burn it to a cd?
[23:15] <ataloss> nope. i just downloaded it, unzipped it, and attempted an install that way.
[23:15] <ataloss> guess i need to burn it to a disc first, huh?
[23:15] <trndr> ataloss, then this will help: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <quadHelix> %^^
[23:15] <ataloss> cool I'll check it out
[23:15] <ataloss> thanks
[23:21] <daftykins> ataloss: it sounds like you used WUBI...? you don't unzip ISO's, you either burn them to DVD or put them on a USB flash drive and boot from them
[23:23] <ataloss> i did use wubi. obviously i have no idea what i'm doing. so should i just transfer the download .zip file to a usb drive?
[23:24] <daftykins> ataloss: ubuntu doesn't come in a .zip, it's just that windows archive programs like 7zip, winzip, winrar can extract .ISO images
[23:24] <daftykins> ataloss: yep if i were you i would plug in an empty flash drive and download Universal USB Installer from www.pendrivelinux.com
[23:24] <ataloss> gotcha. sorry i'm so ignorant to all of this, but i really appreciate all of the help.
[23:25] <daftykins> ataloss: don't worry, it's exactly what we're here for :)
[23:25] <TJ-> ataloss: See the "Easy ways to switch" ... "From Windows" section of this page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[23:26] <Bashing-om> ataloss: It is all a process of learning, we are here to help. (hey daftykins beat me to it !) .
[23:26] <qin> cyborgcygnus: Without whining about bad parenting, does yor kid know the password?
[23:26] <daftykins> Bashing-om: :D
[23:26] <mitas> I tried to clone my home partition with a sudo cp -Rp /home/* /home2. No problems there, but when editing fstab to mount the new partition as /home, I can start my desktop, but none of the programs requiring access to my homedrive (i.e. firefox) will start.
[23:26] <ataloss> i have a 1tb external hd with 17gb empty space left, would i be able to use that?
[23:27] <daftykins> mitas: check permissions
[23:27] <cyborgcygnus> qin, It's for my sister, but no. She has her own account though & I prefer her to be able to have her own. SHe tends to log onto the pc when I'm not home which creates armageddon when she's not supposed to be on & my mother catches her.
[23:27] <daftykins> ataloss: that's a bit too tight really
[23:27] <mitas> daftykins, copying with the -p flag should copy both ownership and permissions, or am I missing something important here?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> ataloss: 17 gigs will do for a starter, but will get tight .. see 30 gigs most recommneded.
[23:27] <daftykins> mitas: 'should' being the operative word :)
[23:28] <daftykins> ataloss: what i would do if i were you, is just boot into the live session from the USB once it's made up - and see if all your hardware works (wireless networking being the main sticking point if it's a laptop etc)
[23:28] <trndr> ataloss, if you want it to be the install drive, then yes, but you might whatch out to make sure to partition the drive before
[23:29] <mitas> daftykins, so does that mean that this flag does not work as I think it does. The manpage for cp claims that all attributes and rights will be copied as well.
[23:30] <ataloss> ok. I have to admit I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed, but I believe I have somewhat of an understanding on what to do. Thanks again everyone for all of the help. Asta
[23:30] <qin> cyborgcygnus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282806/how-to-enable-or-disabled-a-user
[23:30] <daftykins> mitas: i just meant for you to check :)
[23:31] <trndr> ataloss, just to check we are on the same page, what install/try instructions are you using?
[23:32] <Bashing-om> trndr: ataloss has wonderon on his (sic) merry way.
[23:33] <xxxDSSxxx> is there any good WYSIWYG HTML- editor in unbuntu repository?
[23:34] <xxxDSSxxx> or RDF-editor, like Protege?
[23:34] <trndr> Bashing-om, saw that after I hit enter
[23:34] <mitas> daftykins, permissions seem to be in order, yet upons starting firefox, I get this error message: "Can't create de Gnome-shortcuts folder '/home/$USER/.gnome2/accels' : Access denied...
[23:35] <mitas> daftykins, "de" should have been "the" here
[23:38] <daftykins> mitas: can you pastebin your fstab along with the output of "ls -al /" ?
[23:39] <mitas> daftykins, what's more, even after swapping both partition names in /etc/fstab again (home <=> home2) I still get the same error message. This is on a new Trusty 64 bits install, that was unable to find my LVM pv "Home-Home_Raid1" during install. I removed the pv, and the vg and recreated them after installation.
[23:40] <mitas> daftykins, of what directory do you want the ls -al? , my /home drive?
[23:40] <cyborgcygnus> I keep getting "Requires installation of untrusted packages" when installing software from the ubuntu software centre & when I click the ok or repair option it just keeps popping back up without installing the missing stuff. I just install the missing stuff from the terminal
[23:40] <daftykins> mitas: my command was complete: "ls -al /"
[23:40] <daftykins> mitas: oh i have no experience with LVM
[23:41] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: do you get any errors when running "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal?
[23:41] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, yes
[23:42] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: can you pastebin? :)
[23:42] <cyborgcygnus> fo shizzle just give me a sec
[23:42] <mitas> daftykins, sorry, missed that part..., Hmm, I can't fire up a browser here (neither firefox or chrome will start ), so I can't use pastebin...
[23:43] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499490/
[23:44] <mitas> daftykins, I know it's normally not done, but could I please start a PM with you and paste the output there? Unless you know a web browser that does not require write access to my home drive, that is...
[23:44] <daftykins> mitas: install pastebinit, the CLI app, then pipe it to pastebinit
[23:44] <daftykins> e.g. "pastebinit /etc/fstab" and "ls -al / | pastebinit"
[23:44] <mitas> daftykins, will do, just a moment.
[23:45] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: neither of those look like legitimate repos
[23:47] <mitas> daftykins, , thanks for your help, these are the pastebins of /etc/fstab and ls -la / respectively: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499498/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499503/
[23:50] <mitas> daftykins, /home22 was a typo, but that was easily corrected.
[23:52] <javanic> hello all
[23:53] <mitas> daftykins, Home-Home_Raid1 is a LVM logical volume containing part(propery striped of course) of a RAID1 array /dev/md0
[23:55] <TJ-> mitas: Can you pastebin "lsblk" ?
[23:55] <daftykins> mitas: ok, permissions of the root /home folder looks fine, unfortunately i don't understand LVM to understand if anything's going on with your fstab
[23:55] <mitas> TJ, sure
[23:55]  * nevyn understands lvm
[23:56] <mitas> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499526/
[23:57] <javanic> any installation pros here?
[23:58] <TJ-> mitas: That looks strange; it doesn't show the mountpoint for / ... is this the bare-metal running system, or from a liveISO recovery session?
[23:58] <daftykins> javanic: just ask
[23:58] <mitas> TJ, it's a live system
[23:59] <javanic> I installed 14.04 on a new samsung laptop.. ran fine, came back and all i had was a black screen ( this is a couple of days later) won't even boot from dvd now
[23:59] <javanic> not sure if it's something with software, in bios or the hardware
[23:59] <mitas> TJ, SSD_Statisch-Root (dm-5)        252:5    0    28G  0 lvm  <= this is mounted as /
[23:59] <nevyn> how do I set skype to use a non-default audiohow do I configure pulseaudio to send skype call audio to my usbt headset but ring on spethe defautlcurrent 'main' pa output?
[23:59] <TJ-> mitas: OK, so the "/etc/fstab" you showed is from the failed environment... that explains the missing parts of the "lsblk" output :)