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mmazingis there a way to set up the whisker menu to pop up with just the super key?00:06
ochosimmazing: not sure, also, that would conflict with all other composite shortcuts00:07
ochosie.g. super+100:07
mmazingyeah, i would think that too, im planning on moving from unity to xubuntu and im trying to get some of the same functionality00:08
mmazinglike having menus integrated into the top bar :)00:08
mmazingis that one possible? i can live with "ctrl-esc" for the whisker menu00:08
ochosinot sure, the global menu stuff hasn't really worked well for me in xfce00:09
mmazingah "global menu" i have been trying to figure out what to call it00:09
ochosithat's what most ppl call it00:10
ochosiwhy switch from unity though if you're just gonna recreate it in xubuntu? :)00:10
mmazingtoo much bloat00:10
mmazingi like having the extra screen real estate by removing the menu, im looking into "maximus though00:11
ochosixfwm4 is quite good with fullscreen mode imo00:11
ochosiyou can always hit alt+f11 on any window00:11
ochosiand the alt-tab dialog isnt very disturbing00:11
mmazinglooks pretty good00:14
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bah_mmazing, I have my whisker menu mapped to super+space,  maybe that is an alternative for you ?00:22
mmazingbah_: thanks, that may work, i'll try it00:23
mmazingso ... what would be the easiest way to migrate from ubuntu to xubuntu and maintain application settings01:21
mmazingi've tried moving home directory in the past but something inevitably gets messed up01:21
mmazingi guess ... i can just keep a copy of my old home and migrate settings as i install stuff01:22
MAbeeTTHi! I installed xubuntu 14.04 and I am searching for the GUI for setting proxy URI as global setting.01:58
holstein!proxy01:59
ubottuSeveral Ubuntu channels prohibit access from open proxies and other anonymous connections due to a high level of abuse. The supported ways to hide your IP address on freenode are to use !Tor or get a !cloak01:59
MAbeeTTI do have a PAC file scenario01:59
MAbeeTTSo I need a dialog as in the unity config.02:00
MAbeeTTholstein: what?02:00
holsteinMAbeeTT: i was just hoping the bot would kick out something helpful like http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio02:01
RarrikinsIs there a way to make wider the area for grabbing the edge of a window to resize it?02:01
MAbeeTTholstein: I searched the web too, but I did not find a wway for setting the proxy.pac URI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config#The_PAC_File02:03
holsteinMAbeeTT: the information i gave should help you set a system wide proxy02:03
MAbeeTTI do no t have a system wide proxy. I have an URI for a pac file which sets rules for diffents proxyes.02:04
MAbeeTTso I need a GUI for setting the URI as http://proxy.my.university.edu/proxy.pac02:05
MAbeeTTthe ubuntu/unity gui calls it "automatic method"02:06
xubuntunoobHello everyone!06:18
baizonhello xubuntunoob06:21
xubuntunoobJust switched to Xubuntu, is it just me or is Xubuntu the only Linux distribution where you can easily disable a touchscreen?06:21
baizoncant, tell using xubuntu for a long long time :)06:22
xubuntunoobWow it's already 11:30 over here.06:29
johndow130 here06:30
xubuntunoobWhich part of the world are you in?06:32
johndowarkansas, usa06:34
xubuntunoobCalifornia, USA06:35
johndowso, i have put lubuntu on my comp06:38
johndownow i am wondering if i should have chosen xubuntu06:38
xubuntunoobI personally find Lubuntu and Kubuntu to be unappealing.06:41
johndowlubuntu looks good so far06:42
johndowresponse time is quick06:42
johndowseems shit loads real good06:42
johndowwhat do you use06:42
xubuntunoobOff-topic but, I tried Fedora in the past two days, it was good.06:43
johndowDoes Fedora have a live cd option?06:43
xubuntunoobRight now I'm using Xubuntu 14.04 LTS.06:43
johndowI used Redhat 5 back in the day06:43
johndow....long time ago06:43
xubuntunoobYeah, I find it really hard to create a Fedora USB though.06:43
baizonguys, you can continue your talk on #xubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel only :)06:43
xubuntunoobHa-ha, back when Redhat Linux was free?06:43
johndowwell i bought it06:44
xubuntunoobWhat's the point, no one needs support on this channel right now. :L06:44
johndowbaizon, are you an operator here?06:45
baizonjohndow: no06:46
johndowok06:46
johndowI'll respect the channel rules though.06:47
xubuntu_why does xubuntu show users desktop walppaer on login screen? how to stop it from doing that?08:16
larrypgsettings manager - session and startup-splash- then choose08:24
xubuntu931my mouse pointer has been looking pixilated and then the system began to come up slowly or not at all on monitor10:51
xubuntu931system is up now and I have installed all updates and restarted10:52
xubuntu931my pointer now displays fine except that there is about a one inch by one inch grid of vertical bars with it10:53
cyborgcygnusMy headsets volume buttons turns something up & down but not the volume of my headset, anyway I can check what it is changing &/or how to make it change the headset volume.11:31
cyborgcygnushow can I*11:32
cyborgcygnusThe headset controller changes the system sound but doesn't change media playing volumes. Weird11:34
bah_hi.... is it anybody here that have a Mac US keyboard ?   I should really need some help11:36
bah_*is it anybody here that have a Mac US keyboard ?     do  anybody here  have a Mac US keyboard ?    (sorry for the grammar)11:53
knomebah_, rather tell what's your issue12:20
bhadI have apt-get installed lamp-server^ . The webserver seems to work, as well as php when using a .php file and surfing to that. But <?php echo "something"; ?> does not. Why is this?12:34
bah_knome, I went over to #ubuntu and asked the same question,  anyway I am not able to type any symbols using the US layout, works fine in the Swedish layout by using right-alt+some-key12:35
bah_seems like bhad ask in both places at the same time,, I ask in one place and if no answer in another  :  )12:37
knomebhad, please do not cross-post12:38
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goneeurodid any of you guys lose the google hangouts aplet from the top panel when upgradeing chrome today?12:49
goneeuroThis is the applet that i mean. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/goneeuro/Screenshot-04282014-034934PM_zps5284d3ec.png12:51
goneeuroIs there anyone in here today. ha12:57
cfhowlett!quite a few|goneeuro12:57
ubottucfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:57
goneeuroha. ok. Ussually it moved so fast before.13:00
goneeuroAny ideas on how to get the hangouts icon back in the top panel?13:02
haledI've added http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/ssi.html to apache2.conf and it seems to work. Why didn't xubuntu do this be default?13:14
halederr, that not what I've added13:15
haledI've added "AddType application/x-httpd-php .html .htm" to apache2.conf and it seems to work. Why didn't xubuntu do this be default?13:15
bah_knome,    I had to catch a buss and then I got some issue that forced me to reboot, sorry for that (in case you try to answer)13:17
HIpatiase me dañó el entorno gráfico, qué hago?13:26
HIpatiade Xubuntu..13:26
knomeHIpatia, english only please13:26
cfhowlett!es|HIpatia13:26
ubottuHIpatia: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:26
HIpatiahmm :S13:26
HIpatiasorry knome13:26
cfhowlettor is that Italian?13:26
HIpatiacfhowlett spanish13:27
Pa^2Cursor changes to huge in app windows, back to small on the desktop.  Any ideas why?16:05
saxx_Anyone know how to fix choppy audio?17:44
holsteinsaxx_: i use a known-good audio file in a simple player i know works, and test the audio independent of any other variables.. such as mp3 codec support, or flash audio.. etc17:45
saxx_The problem is mainly with Youtube, they audio skips and stutters, not sure what to do17:46
holsteinsaxx_: test if its flash, or audio17:46
holsteinsaxx_: test audio, and if audio is ok, then you have a different problem.. choppy audio in flash17:47
saxx_I'll give it a try now, thanks holstein17:47
holsteini use chrome's flash, since its factually the only recent version of flash for linux17:47
holsteinhttps://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/17:47
saxx_I'll copy all my music over and then give it a try, I never thought it could be a flash issue17:48
holsteinyou can use it in the chrom browser or force it into the chromium browser..17:48
holsteinyou can try forcing youtube over html5 https://www.youtube.com/html517:48
saxx_Ah yeah, Saw that before, if the music doesn't skip I'll do that ^17:48
saxx_Seems it's fine playing local audio files, I'll do the html5 thing now17:54
holsteinsaxx_: or, use the latest flash.. or, dont use flash at all. and dont expect flash support for desktop linux, since its factually over17:54
saxx_I'll update my flash, thanks for the help holstein :)17:56
holsteinsaxx_: you cant17:56
holsteinsaxx_: there is not update for your flash.. you have to use the one from chrome17:56
holstein*if* you want current flash..17:56
saxx_Well I'm using Chrome as my main browser, it's using the html5 player now and seems okay17:57
holsteinsaxx_: google-chrome? or chromium?17:57
saxx_Google Chrome17:57
saxx_Also, what is the best audio player in your opinion?17:57
holsteinsaxx_: then, you can confirm you have the latest version of flash with https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/17:58
holsteinsaxx_: "best" is always a matter of use case and preference17:58
saxx_I'll do that now17:58
saxx_In your opinion though, what do you use?17:58
holsteini usually get all i need from vlc.. and have been using it for years on many OS's17:58
holsteini like audacious for JACK support17:58
saxx_Ah vlc, I'll give it a try17:58
saxx_I'll give a few a try and see what I like best :)17:59
holsteinbanshee is a nice "bigger" one.. though, amarok is my fav of the big ones17:59
saxx_I've used banshee before, I liked it when I used it17:59
OneWithWavesHello Xubuntu! Can anyone help me with a blank screen after boot? I believe I'm running 14.04.18:52
marko_serbiahello everybody18:58
marko_serbiaI have one question, if somebody can help or has seen similar issues ...18:59
marko_serbiaI have installed xubuntu on laptop, which has hard disk plus ssd inside ...18:59
marko_serbia(xubuntu is installed on hard disk)19:00
marko_serbiaproblem is when I try to copy several GB of files from SSD to hard disk, everything slows down19:00
marko_serbiaload goes up to 6, for example19:00
marko_serbiasystem becomes quite slow to respond and unusable, until copy is finished19:01
marko_serbiaI tried the same on fresh install of debian jessie, on other HDD partition, and there is no such behaviour19:01
rtzuiHi. What handles the hardware audio controlls?19:05
rtzuiBecause +/- volume it stopped working for me, while mute still works19:06
rtzuithe keypresses are still recognised correctly, for example as XF86AudioLowerVolume.19:07
a_i have a dell inspiron  n5110 laptop that comes with a sandy-bridge intel core i processor with integrated graphics card and a dedicated nvidia card, i was attempting to boot ubuntu 14.04 interminal mode, changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub to "text" or "acpi = force" or even "nomodeset" would result in excessive use of the dedicated nvidia card, any advice on what parameters work best for optimus technology?19:17
rtzuiafter trying lots of stuff, the solution is to kill xfce4-volumed, and run in _not_ as deamon, despite it's name19:22
RareshPCWhizzHello!21:10
saxx_Hey Raresh21:23
larrypgwhat lag?21:24
saxx_?21:26
xubuntu273Hi there. I recently chose to move from Win to Linux. My PC is a Packard Bell Dot with a Atom 270N CPU (1,6 GHz) and 1 Gb RAM. I've then chosen Xubuntu 14.04.22:03
xubuntu273My problem is that at the boot, I've the following message:22:03
xubuntu27317.210751 acerhdf unknown (unsupported) bios version packard bell/doa150/v.310322:04
xubuntu273Do you know what does it imply and how to fix this?22:04
ochosixubuntu273: i'm not sure, first of all: does it boot?22:08
xubuntu273Yes22:08
Joe_knockHello22:08
larrypgseems to be something about fan control22:09
slickymaster!hi | Joe_knock22:09
ubottuJoe_knock: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!22:09
Joe_knockIs there any way to get the original bottom panel in 12.04? I removed them when I first installed, but would like them back for my dev PC.22:09
Joe_knockThanks slickymaster :-)22:09
ochosixubuntu273: could be that the kernel cannot control stuff like the cpu fan22:09
ochosibut hard to know22:09
slickymasterJoe_knock: ared you referring to have it back in 12.04 or 14.04?22:10
xubuntu273From what I read on the internet, yes, it seems related to the fan control. So it worries me...22:10
ochosixubuntu273: however, one thing that seems for sure is that since this is a kernel issue, it's very likely you'll get similar/the same errors with another distro22:10
ochosiwell, the bios isn't the only thing that controls the fan22:11
ochosior can control the fan22:11
ochosiyou can monitor the temperature of your cpu22:11
Joe_knockslickymaster: I am using 12.04 currently and would like to get that panel back. I can add a panel, but it doesn't have the quick launchers that that panel had.22:11
ochosiand see whether the fan ever kicks in22:11
xubuntu530Hi22:12
larrypgpanel - proprerties22:12
Joe_knockochosi: I think my old laptops fan is dead (or almost).22:12
slickymasterJoe_knock: The only way to get that panel back would be to wipe you panel config so that everything is reset to factory defaults.22:12
slickymasterJoe_knock: you would have to l22:13
slickymasterJoe_knock, logout and switch to a virtual terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F122:14
larrypgslickymaster, and Joe_knock , using 14.04 and 14.10 but think you can add (although not the default) what you want22:14
Joe_knockslickymaster: I think I'll just try adding a couple and possibly running a livedisk and copy those settings .22:15
slickymasterlarrypg, Joe_knock is referring to 12.04, not to 14.0422:15
slickymasterJoe_knock: in case you want to try it, after switching into ttl1 you'd run -> rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel22:16
slickymasterthen, after that ->rm ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml22:16
xubuntu273So as it is a kernel issue, does it mean that the control of the fan will not be supported on any distro? In other words, I can get Linux working on my netbook?22:16
slickymasterJoe_knock: with that done, switch back to the login manager (Ctrl-Alt-F7) and log back in22:16
slickymasterJoe_knock, that should do it22:17
xubuntu273Can't *22:18
Joe_knockslickymaster: I'm tempted to try it out :P22:19
ochosixubuntu273: as i said previously, the bios is not the only thing controlling the fan. monitor your cpu temp and see whether the fan ever kicks in22:19
ochosixubuntu273: and yes, i said that too (that you'll see this in every distro most likely)22:19
slickymasterJoe_knock: You can also delete those files graphically if you have another DE installed, as long as you are not logged into Xfce.22:20
Joe_knockslickymaster: A virtual terminal = the commandline version of linux with no GUI?22:21
slickymasterJoe_knock: yes, running without X Window System, which starts in the seventh virtual terminal22:23
acpiorwhathow can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?22:30
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acpiorwhatare floppy disks supported by 14.04?22:41
TheSheepsure22:42
acpiorwhatTheSheep, how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?22:43
TheSheep!info mtools22:43
ubottumtools (source: mtools): Tools for manipulating MSDOS files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.18-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 185 kB, installed size 339 kB22:43
TheSheepyou can just use mkfs.vfat22:43
TheSheeptoo22:43
TheSheepbut I find mformat easier22:43
* ochosi is amazed by TheSheep's arcane retro knowledge...22:43
acpiorwhatmformat a:  gives me the error "v22:44
acpiorwhatmformat a:  gives me the error "can't open /dev/fd0" . yes i am root22:44
acpiorwhatby the way /dev/fd0 does not exist22:44
TheSheepthat would explain it22:45
acpiorwhat/dev/floppy does not exist either22:46
TheSheepacpiorwhat: aah, the floppy module is not loaded into the kernel by default anymore22:47
TheSheepinteresting22:47
TheSheepacpiorwhat: try "sudo modprobe floppy"22:47
xubunturyan459do any of you know how to recover lost abiword files?  Mine wouldnt save and when i tried it crashed and lost everything22:48
xubunturyan459i dont think it was saved22:48
TheSheepacpiorwhat: then 'dmesg' to see what it said22:48
xubunturyan459and sorry if im in the wrong forums22:48
acpiorwhatTheSheep, thank you! modprobe worked!22:49
TheSheepacpiorwhat: cheers22:51

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