[00:06] <mmazing> is there a way to set up the whisker menu to pop up with just the super key?
[00:07] <ochosi> mmazing: not sure, also, that would conflict with all other composite shortcuts
[00:07] <ochosi> e.g. super+1
[00:08] <mmazing> yeah, i would think that too, im planning on moving from unity to xubuntu and im trying to get some of the same functionality
[00:08] <mmazing> like having menus integrated into the top bar :)
[00:08] <mmazing> is that one possible? i can live with "ctrl-esc" for the whisker menu
[00:09] <ochosi> not sure, the global menu stuff hasn't really worked well for me in xfce
[00:09] <mmazing> ah "global menu" i have been trying to figure out what to call it
[00:10] <ochosi> that's what most ppl call it
[00:10] <ochosi> why switch from unity though if you're just gonna recreate it in xubuntu? :)
[00:10] <mmazing> too much bloat
[00:11] <mmazing> i like having the extra screen real estate by removing the menu, im looking into "maximus though
[00:11] <ochosi> xfwm4 is quite good with fullscreen mode imo
[00:11] <ochosi> you can always hit alt+f11 on any window
[00:11] <ochosi> and the alt-tab dialog isnt very disturbing
[00:14] <mmazing> looks pretty good
[00:22] <bah_> mmazing, I have my whisker menu mapped to super+space,  maybe that is an alternative for you ?
[00:23] <mmazing> bah_: thanks, that may work, i'll try it
[01:21] <mmazing> so ... what would be the easiest way to migrate from ubuntu to xubuntu and maintain application settings
[01:21] <mmazing> i've tried moving home directory in the past but something inevitably gets messed up
[01:22] <mmazing> i guess ... i can just keep a copy of my old home and migrate settings as i install stuff
[01:58] <MAbeeTT> Hi! I installed xubuntu 14.04 and I am searching for the GUI for setting proxy URI as global setting.
[01:59] <holstein> !proxy
[01:59] <MAbeeTT> I do have a PAC file scenario
[02:00] <MAbeeTT> So I need a dialog as in the unity config.
[02:00] <MAbeeTT> holstein: what?
[02:01] <holstein> MAbeeTT: i was just hoping the bot would kick out something helpful like http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[02:01] <Rarrikins> Is there a way to make wider the area for grabbing the edge of a window to resize it?
[02:03] <MAbeeTT> holstein: I searched the web too, but I did not find a wway for setting the proxy.pac URI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config#The_PAC_File
[02:03] <holstein> MAbeeTT: the information i gave should help you set a system wide proxy
[02:04] <MAbeeTT> I do no t have a system wide proxy. I have an URI for a pac file which sets rules for diffents proxyes.
[02:05] <MAbeeTT> so I need a GUI for setting the URI as http://proxy.my.university.edu/proxy.pac
[02:06] <MAbeeTT> the ubuntu/unity gui calls it "automatic method"
[06:18] <xubuntunoob> Hello everyone!
[06:21] <baizon> hello xubuntunoob
[06:21] <xubuntunoob> Just switched to Xubuntu, is it just me or is Xubuntu the only Linux distribution where you can easily disable a touchscreen?
[06:22] <baizon> cant, tell using xubuntu for a long long time :)
[06:29] <xubuntunoob> Wow it's already 11:30 over here.
[06:30] <johndow> 130 here
[06:32] <xubuntunoob> Which part of the world are you in?
[06:34] <johndow> arkansas, usa
[06:35] <xubuntunoob> California, USA
[06:38] <johndow> so, i have put lubuntu on my comp
[06:38] <johndow> now i am wondering if i should have chosen xubuntu
[06:41] <xubuntunoob> I personally find Lubuntu and Kubuntu to be unappealing.
[06:42] <johndow> lubuntu looks good so far
[06:42] <johndow> response time is quick
[06:42] <johndow> seems shit loads real good
[06:42] <johndow> what do you use
[06:43] <xubuntunoob> Off-topic but, I tried Fedora in the past two days, it was good.
[06:43] <johndow> Does Fedora have a live cd option?
[06:43] <xubuntunoob> Right now I'm using Xubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[06:43] <johndow> I used Redhat 5 back in the day
[06:43] <johndow> ....long time ago
[06:43] <xubuntunoob> Yeah, I find it really hard to create a Fedora USB though.
[06:43] <baizon> guys, you can continue your talk on #xubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel only :)
[06:43] <xubuntunoob> Ha-ha, back when Redhat Linux was free?
[06:44] <johndow> well i bought it
[06:44] <xubuntunoob> What's the point, no one needs support on this channel right now. :L
[06:45] <johndow> baizon, are you an operator here?
[06:46] <baizon> johndow: no
[06:46] <johndow> ok
[06:47] <johndow> I'll respect the channel rules though.
[08:16] <xubuntu_> why does xubuntu show users desktop walppaer on login screen? how to stop it from doing that?
[08:24] <larrypg> settings manager - session and startup-splash- then choose
[10:51] <xubuntu931> my mouse pointer has been looking pixilated and then the system began to come up slowly or not at all on monitor
[10:52] <xubuntu931> system is up now and I have installed all updates and restarted
[10:53] <xubuntu931> my pointer now displays fine except that there is about a one inch by one inch grid of vertical bars with it
[11:31] <cyborgcygnus> My headsets volume buttons turns something up & down but not the volume of my headset, anyway I can check what it is changing &/or how to make it change the headset volume.
[11:32] <cyborgcygnus> how can I*
[11:34] <cyborgcygnus> The headset controller changes the system sound but doesn't change media playing volumes. Weird
[11:36] <bah_> hi.... is it anybody here that have a Mac US keyboard ?   I should really need some help
[11:53] <bah_> *is it anybody here that have a Mac US keyboard ?     do  anybody here  have a Mac US keyboard ?    (sorry for the grammar)
[12:20] <knome> bah_, rather tell what's your issue
[12:34] <bhad> I have apt-get installed lamp-server^ . The webserver seems to work, as well as php when using a .php file and surfing to that. But <?php echo "something"; ?> does not. Why is this?
[12:35] <bah_> knome, I went over to #ubuntu and asked the same question,  anyway I am not able to type any symbols using the US layout, works fine in the Swedish layout by using right-alt+some-key
[12:37] <bah_> seems like bhad ask in both places at the same time,, I ask in one place and if no answer in another  :  )
[12:38] <knome> bhad, please do not cross-post
[12:49] <goneeuro> did any of you guys lose the google hangouts aplet from the top panel when upgradeing chrome today?
[12:51] <goneeuro> This is the applet that i mean. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/goneeuro/Screenshot-04282014-034934PM_zps5284d3ec.png
[12:57] <goneeuro> Is there anyone in here today. ha
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !quite a few|goneeuro
[13:00] <goneeuro> ha. ok. Ussually it moved so fast before.
[13:02] <goneeuro> Any ideas on how to get the hangouts icon back in the top panel?
[13:14] <haled> I've added http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/ssi.html to apache2.conf and it seems to work. Why didn't xubuntu do this be default?
[13:15] <haled> err, that not what I've added
[13:15] <haled> I've added "AddType application/x-httpd-php .html .htm" to apache2.conf and it seems to work. Why didn't xubuntu do this be default?
[13:17] <bah_> knome,    I had to catch a buss and then I got some issue that forced me to reboot, sorry for that (in case you try to answer)
[13:26] <HIpatia> se me dañó el entorno gráfico, qué hago?
[13:26] <HIpatia> de Xubuntu..
[13:26] <knome> HIpatia, english only please
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !es|HIpatia
[13:26] <HIpatia> hmm :S
[13:26] <HIpatia> sorry knome
[13:26] <cfhowlett> or is that Italian?
[13:27] <HIpatia> cfhowlett spanish
[16:05] <Pa^2> Cursor changes to huge in app windows, back to small on the desktop.  Any ideas why?
[17:44] <saxx_> Anyone know how to fix choppy audio?
[17:45] <holstein> saxx_: i use a known-good audio file in a simple player i know works, and test the audio independent of any other variables.. such as mp3 codec support, or flash audio.. etc
[17:46] <saxx_> The problem is mainly with Youtube, they audio skips and stutters, not sure what to do
[17:46] <holstein> saxx_: test if its flash, or audio
[17:47] <holstein> saxx_: test audio, and if audio is ok, then you have a different problem.. choppy audio in flash
[17:47] <saxx_> I'll give it a try now, thanks holstein
[17:47] <holstein> i use chrome's flash, since its factually the only recent version of flash for linux
[17:47] <holstein> https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:48] <saxx_> I'll copy all my music over and then give it a try, I never thought it could be a flash issue
[17:48] <holstein> you can use it in the chrom browser or force it into the chromium browser..
[17:48] <holstein> you can try forcing youtube over html5 https://www.youtube.com/html5
[17:48] <saxx_> Ah yeah, Saw that before, if the music doesn't skip I'll do that ^
[17:54] <saxx_> Seems it's fine playing local audio files, I'll do the html5 thing now
[17:54] <holstein> saxx_: or, use the latest flash.. or, dont use flash at all. and dont expect flash support for desktop linux, since its factually over
[17:56] <saxx_> I'll update my flash, thanks for the help holstein :)
[17:56] <holstein> saxx_: you cant
[17:56] <holstein> saxx_: there is not update for your flash.. you have to use the one from chrome
[17:56] <holstein> *if* you want current flash..
[17:57] <saxx_> Well I'm using Chrome as my main browser, it's using the html5 player now and seems okay
[17:57] <holstein> saxx_: google-chrome? or chromium?
[17:57] <saxx_> Google Chrome
[17:57] <saxx_> Also, what is the best audio player in your opinion?
[17:58] <holstein> saxx_: then, you can confirm you have the latest version of flash with https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:58] <holstein> saxx_: "best" is always a matter of use case and preference
[17:58] <saxx_> I'll do that now
[17:58] <saxx_> In your opinion though, what do you use?
[17:58] <holstein> i usually get all i need from vlc.. and have been using it for years on many OS's
[17:58] <holstein> i like audacious for JACK support
[17:58] <saxx_> Ah vlc, I'll give it a try
[17:59] <saxx_> I'll give a few a try and see what I like best :)
[17:59] <holstein> banshee is a nice "bigger" one.. though, amarok is my fav of the big ones
[17:59] <saxx_> I've used banshee before, I liked it when I used it
[18:52] <OneWithWaves> Hello Xubuntu! Can anyone help me with a blank screen after boot? I believe I'm running 14.04.
[18:58] <marko_serbia> hello everybody
[18:59] <marko_serbia> I have one question, if somebody can help or has seen similar issues ...
[18:59] <marko_serbia> I have installed xubuntu on laptop, which has hard disk plus ssd inside ...
[19:00] <marko_serbia> (xubuntu is installed on hard disk)
[19:00] <marko_serbia> problem is when I try to copy several GB of files from SSD to hard disk, everything slows down
[19:00] <marko_serbia> load goes up to 6, for example
[19:01] <marko_serbia> system becomes quite slow to respond and unusable, until copy is finished
[19:01] <marko_serbia> I tried the same on fresh install of debian jessie, on other HDD partition, and there is no such behaviour
[19:05] <rtzui> Hi. What handles the hardware audio controlls?
[19:06] <rtzui> Because +/- volume it stopped working for me, while mute still works
[19:07] <rtzui> the keypresses are still recognised correctly, for example as XF86AudioLowerVolume.
[19:17] <a_> i have a dell inspiron  n5110 laptop that comes with a sandy-bridge intel core i processor with integrated graphics card and a dedicated nvidia card, i was attempting to boot ubuntu 14.04 interminal mode, changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub to "text" or "acpi = force" or even "nomodeset" would result in excessive use of the dedicated nvidia card, any advice on what parameters work best for optimus technology?
[19:22] <rtzui> after trying lots of stuff, the solution is to kill xfce4-volumed, and run in _not_ as deamon, despite it's name
[21:10] <RareshPCWhizz> Hello!
[21:23] <saxx_> Hey Raresh
[21:24] <larrypg> what lag?
[21:26] <saxx_> ?
[22:03] <xubuntu273> Hi there. I recently chose to move from Win to Linux. My PC is a Packard Bell Dot with a Atom 270N CPU (1,6 GHz) and 1 Gb RAM. I've then chosen Xubuntu 14.04.
[22:03] <xubuntu273> My problem is that at the boot, I've the following message:
[22:04] <xubuntu273> 17.210751 acerhdf unknown (unsupported) bios version packard bell/doa150/v.3103
[22:04] <xubuntu273> Do you know what does it imply and how to fix this?
[22:08] <ochosi> xubuntu273: i'm not sure, first of all: does it boot?
[22:08] <xubuntu273> Yes
[22:08] <Joe_knock> Hello
[22:09] <larrypg> seems to be something about fan control
[22:09] <slickymaster> !hi | Joe_knock
[22:09] <Joe_knock> Is there any way to get the original bottom panel in 12.04? I removed them when I first installed, but would like them back for my dev PC.
[22:09] <Joe_knock> Thanks slickymaster :-)
[22:09] <ochosi> xubuntu273: could be that the kernel cannot control stuff like the cpu fan
[22:09] <ochosi> but hard to know
[22:10] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: ared you referring to have it back in 12.04 or 14.04?
[22:10] <xubuntu273> From what I read on the internet, yes, it seems related to the fan control. So it worries me...
[22:10] <ochosi> xubuntu273: however, one thing that seems for sure is that since this is a kernel issue, it's very likely you'll get similar/the same errors with another distro
[22:11] <ochosi> well, the bios isn't the only thing that controls the fan
[22:11] <ochosi> or can control the fan
[22:11] <ochosi> you can monitor the temperature of your cpu
[22:11] <Joe_knock> slickymaster: I am using 12.04 currently and would like to get that panel back. I can add a panel, but it doesn't have the quick launchers that that panel had.
[22:11] <ochosi> and see whether the fan ever kicks in
[22:12] <xubuntu530> Hi
[22:12] <larrypg> panel - proprerties
[22:12] <Joe_knock> ochosi: I think my old laptops fan is dead (or almost).
[22:12] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: The only way to get that panel back would be to wipe you panel config so that everything is reset to factory defaults.
[22:13] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: you would have to l
[22:14] <slickymaster> Joe_knock, logout and switch to a virtual terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1
[22:14] <larrypg> slickymaster, and Joe_knock , using 14.04 and 14.10 but think you can add (although not the default) what you want
[22:15] <Joe_knock> slickymaster: I think I'll just try adding a couple and possibly running a livedisk and copy those settings .
[22:15] <slickymaster> larrypg, Joe_knock is referring to 12.04, not to 14.04
[22:16] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: in case you want to try it, after switching into ttl1 you'd run -> rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel
[22:16] <slickymaster> then, after that ->rm ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml
[22:16] <xubuntu273> So as it is a kernel issue, does it mean that the control of the fan will not be supported on any distro? In other words, I can get Linux working on my netbook?
[22:16] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: with that done, switch back to the login manager (Ctrl-Alt-F7) and log back in
[22:17] <slickymaster> Joe_knock, that should do it
[22:18] <xubuntu273> Can't *
[22:19] <Joe_knock> slickymaster: I'm tempted to try it out :P
[22:19] <ochosi> xubuntu273: as i said previously, the bios is not the only thing controlling the fan. monitor your cpu temp and see whether the fan ever kicks in
[22:19] <ochosi> xubuntu273: and yes, i said that too (that you'll see this in every distro most likely)
[22:20] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: You can also delete those files graphically if you have another DE installed, as long as you are not logged into Xfce.
[22:21] <Joe_knock> slickymaster: A virtual terminal = the commandline version of linux with no GUI?
[22:23] <slickymaster> Joe_knock: yes, running without X Window System, which starts in the seventh virtual terminal
[22:30] <acpiorwhat> how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?
[22:41] <acpiorwhat> are floppy disks supported by 14.04?
[22:42] <TheSheep> sure
[22:43] <acpiorwhat> TheSheep, how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?
[22:43] <TheSheep> !info mtools
[22:43] <TheSheep> you can just use mkfs.vfat
[22:43] <TheSheep> too
[22:43] <TheSheep> but I find mformat easier
[22:43]  * ochosi is amazed by TheSheep's arcane retro knowledge...
[22:44] <acpiorwhat> mformat a:  gives me the error "v
[22:44] <acpiorwhat> mformat a:  gives me the error "can't open /dev/fd0" . yes i am root
[22:44] <acpiorwhat> by the way /dev/fd0 does not exist
[22:45] <TheSheep> that would explain it
[22:46] <acpiorwhat> /dev/floppy does not exist either
[22:47] <TheSheep> acpiorwhat: aah, the floppy module is not loaded into the kernel by default anymore
[22:47] <TheSheep> interesting
[22:47] <TheSheep> acpiorwhat: try "sudo modprobe floppy"
[22:48] <xubunturyan459> do any of you know how to recover lost abiword files?  Mine wouldnt save and when i tried it crashed and lost everything
[22:48] <xubunturyan459> i dont think it was saved
[22:48] <TheSheep> acpiorwhat: then 'dmesg' to see what it said
[22:48] <xubunturyan459> and sorry if im in the wrong forums
[22:49] <acpiorwhat> TheSheep, thank you! modprobe worked!
[22:51] <TheSheep> acpiorwhat: cheers