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pittiGood morning03:23
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balloonselfy pong, though I guess you've gone05:59
elfyballoons: didn't miss that by much :p06:32
elfyI think I'm ok now - was wondering how I got access to package tracker as an admin - I believe that's xubuntu-release - I'm going to be assisting Studio in getting QA going for them so will be wanting to do the same for them as for us06:33
balloonselfy, ahh yes indeed06:36
balloonselfy, they'll need a similar team and we can grant access06:36
elfya similar QA team? or release team?06:37
elfyI 'think' they have -release but not sure06:37
balloonselfy, either or06:53
elfyballoons: ok cheers :) have a good day06:54
balloonselfy, you as well..06:54
elfy:)06:55
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DanChapmanGood Morning08:42
balloonsgood morning DanChapman09:16
DanChapmanhey balloons how's it going in malta?09:30
balloonsDanChapman, excellent. It's nice to have everyone here and be able to speed up work on things requiring everyone09:31
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rbasakpitti: any thoughts on parameterising tests in debian/tests/control? I want to call the same breaks-testbed test twice, but with a different parameter each time.10:46
rbasakpitti: the only way I can think of doing it is with a wrapper for each test.10:46
pittirbasak: yes, I think I saw that in some packages; they have a debian/tests/do-test and a "test1" calling "do-test foo", and a "test2" calling "do-test bar"10:47
rbasakpitti: seems a bit ugly, but OK. Is a wishlist item of being able to do that directly from debian/tests/control acceptable?10:48
rbasakI'm not sure what the syntax would be10:48
pittirbasak: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741330 vaguely goes into the same direction, but it's not the same10:49
ubot5Debian bug 741330 in autopkgtest "autopkgtest: please add ability to wrap a script/runner/adverb around existing tests" [Wishlist,Open]10:49
rbasakEven if it were one per stanza maybe.10:49
rbasakTests: foo10:49
rbasakParameters: a b c10:49
pittirbasak: yeah, not sure either; it probably will require a lot of extra syntax which doesn't make the whole thing significantly easier..10:49
rbasakwould run "foo a", "foo b", "foo c"10:49
rbasakTests: foo bar10:49
rbasakParameters: a b10:49
rbasakcould run "foo a", "bar a", "foo b", "bar b"10:49
pittirbasak: then the next person will want this to have shell syntax, pass multiple arguments, pass outputs of other commands, etc. :010:50
pittiso, I'm certainly not avert to the idea, I just wonder if it will make things significantly easier and clearer10:50
rbasakautopkgsh :)10:50
pittirbasak: the above could just as well be read as "invoke foo with arguments "a b"10:51
rbasak"Why doesn't /etc/shells include autopkgsh? I want to use it as my login shell."10:51
rbasakpitti: OK, then multiple Parameters: lines for each parameterisation10:52
rbasakAnyway, yes, I agree it could get complicated.10:52
pittirbasak: so Parameters-foo: a b10:52
pittiParameters-bar: c d10:52
pittiTBH I don't find it clearer than a shell script that just does what it wants, and it has a lot more flexibility10:53
pittidebian/tests/foo10:53
pitti#!/bin/sh10:53
rbasakIt just means that I have to clutter the directory with a ton of one-line wrappers10:53
pittido-test `dpkg --print-architecture` bar $ADTTMP/xx10:53
rbasakI'd like to at least put those one liners into the control file somehow10:53
pittirbasak: yeah, I think that's actually a better suggestion10:53
pittirbasak: i. e. provide a syntax which puts the shell command to call directly into debian/tests/control10:54
rbasakThat would certainly be significantly better.10:54
pittiTests: "debian/tests/do-test foo"10:54
rbasakRight10:54
pittiand it's simple enough to be told apart10:55
pittirbasak: now we can get into a long and deep argument about whether ".." or (..) or `..` quoting is better and clearer :)10:56
rbasak:)10:56
rbasakhttp://xkcd.com/1172/10:57
* pitti votes for ⋑..⋐ which is very simiple to type, right?10:57
rbasak"My test had a " character in it and your new feature broke it"10:57
pittirbasak: well, the definition thankfully excludes that already10:59
pittiTest names are separated by whitespace and should contain only10:59
pitti    characters which are legal in package names. It is permitted, but10:59
pitti    not encouraged, to use upper-case characters as well.10:59
pittia lawyer would certainly read it as "anything goes", but we can turn this into "must only contain ... plus (discouraged) upper-case letters"10:59
rbasakRFC2119 section 3 :)11:00
pittioh right, RFCs how to write RFCs11:01
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elopiorpadovani: I'm sorry, we better wait for tomorrow because my branches on reminders have not landed.14:48
elopioI'll try to push them before EOD today.14:48
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* cgoldberg lolz at "spacebar heating"15:37
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gQuigsare their not daily images of trusty?16:56
elfynot anymore16:57
elfytrusty is released16:58
slickymasterWorkgQuigs: at the most you could get the source images containing the source code used to build Ubuntu17:00
gQuigselfy: we still do daily images for precise: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/17:00
slickymasterWorkgQuigs: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/source/pending/source/17:00
gQuigshow else will we test the point releases?17:00
elfygQuigs: good point17:00
* elfy is in non lts mode already :)17:01
elfyballoons: what are the plans for Trusty dailies?17:02
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