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pitti | Good morning | 03:23 |
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balloons | elfy pong, though I guess you've gone | 05:59 |
elfy | balloons: didn't miss that by much :p | 06:32 |
elfy | I think I'm ok now - was wondering how I got access to package tracker as an admin - I believe that's xubuntu-release - I'm going to be assisting Studio in getting QA going for them so will be wanting to do the same for them as for us | 06:33 |
balloons | elfy, ahh yes indeed | 06:36 |
balloons | elfy, they'll need a similar team and we can grant access | 06:36 |
elfy | a similar QA team? or release team? | 06:37 |
elfy | I 'think' they have -release but not sure | 06:37 |
balloons | elfy, either or | 06:53 |
elfy | balloons: ok cheers :) have a good day | 06:54 |
balloons | elfy, you as well.. | 06:54 |
elfy | :) | 06:55 |
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DanChapman | Good Morning | 08:42 |
balloons | good morning DanChapman | 09:16 |
DanChapman | hey balloons how's it going in malta? | 09:30 |
balloons | DanChapman, excellent. It's nice to have everyone here and be able to speed up work on things requiring everyone | 09:31 |
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rbasak | pitti: any thoughts on parameterising tests in debian/tests/control? I want to call the same breaks-testbed test twice, but with a different parameter each time. | 10:46 |
rbasak | pitti: the only way I can think of doing it is with a wrapper for each test. | 10:46 |
pitti | rbasak: yes, I think I saw that in some packages; they have a debian/tests/do-test and a "test1" calling "do-test foo", and a "test2" calling "do-test bar" | 10:47 |
rbasak | pitti: seems a bit ugly, but OK. Is a wishlist item of being able to do that directly from debian/tests/control acceptable? | 10:48 |
rbasak | I'm not sure what the syntax would be | 10:48 |
pitti | rbasak: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741330 vaguely goes into the same direction, but it's not the same | 10:49 |
ubot5 | Debian bug 741330 in autopkgtest "autopkgtest: please add ability to wrap a script/runner/adverb around existing tests" [Wishlist,Open] | 10:49 |
rbasak | Even if it were one per stanza maybe. | 10:49 |
rbasak | Tests: foo | 10:49 |
rbasak | Parameters: a b c | 10:49 |
pitti | rbasak: yeah, not sure either; it probably will require a lot of extra syntax which doesn't make the whole thing significantly easier.. | 10:49 |
rbasak | would run "foo a", "foo b", "foo c" | 10:49 |
rbasak | Tests: foo bar | 10:49 |
rbasak | Parameters: a b | 10:49 |
rbasak | could run "foo a", "bar a", "foo b", "bar b" | 10:49 |
pitti | rbasak: then the next person will want this to have shell syntax, pass multiple arguments, pass outputs of other commands, etc. :0 | 10:50 |
pitti | so, I'm certainly not avert to the idea, I just wonder if it will make things significantly easier and clearer | 10:50 |
rbasak | autopkgsh :) | 10:50 |
pitti | rbasak: the above could just as well be read as "invoke foo with arguments "a b" | 10:51 |
rbasak | "Why doesn't /etc/shells include autopkgsh? I want to use it as my login shell." | 10:51 |
rbasak | pitti: OK, then multiple Parameters: lines for each parameterisation | 10:52 |
rbasak | Anyway, yes, I agree it could get complicated. | 10:52 |
pitti | rbasak: so Parameters-foo: a b | 10:52 |
pitti | Parameters-bar: c d | 10:52 |
pitti | TBH I don't find it clearer than a shell script that just does what it wants, and it has a lot more flexibility | 10:53 |
pitti | debian/tests/foo | 10:53 |
pitti | #!/bin/sh | 10:53 |
rbasak | It just means that I have to clutter the directory with a ton of one-line wrappers | 10:53 |
pitti | do-test `dpkg --print-architecture` bar $ADTTMP/xx | 10:53 |
rbasak | I'd like to at least put those one liners into the control file somehow | 10:53 |
pitti | rbasak: yeah, I think that's actually a better suggestion | 10:53 |
pitti | rbasak: i. e. provide a syntax which puts the shell command to call directly into debian/tests/control | 10:54 |
rbasak | That would certainly be significantly better. | 10:54 |
pitti | Tests: "debian/tests/do-test foo" | 10:54 |
rbasak | Right | 10:54 |
pitti | and it's simple enough to be told apart | 10:55 |
pitti | rbasak: now we can get into a long and deep argument about whether ".." or (..) or `..` quoting is better and clearer :) | 10:56 |
rbasak | :) | 10:56 |
rbasak | http://xkcd.com/1172/ | 10:57 |
* pitti votes for ⋑..⋐ which is very simiple to type, right? | 10:57 | |
rbasak | "My test had a " character in it and your new feature broke it" | 10:57 |
pitti | rbasak: well, the definition thankfully excludes that already | 10:59 |
pitti | Test names are separated by whitespace and should contain only | 10:59 |
pitti | characters which are legal in package names. It is permitted, but | 10:59 |
pitti | not encouraged, to use upper-case characters as well. | 10:59 |
pitti | a lawyer would certainly read it as "anything goes", but we can turn this into "must only contain ... plus (discouraged) upper-case letters" | 10:59 |
rbasak | RFC2119 section 3 :) | 11:00 |
pitti | oh right, RFCs how to write RFCs | 11:01 |
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elopio | rpadovani: I'm sorry, we better wait for tomorrow because my branches on reminders have not landed. | 14:48 |
elopio | I'll try to push them before EOD today. | 14:48 |
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* cgoldberg lolz at "spacebar heating" | 15:37 | |
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gQuigs | are their not daily images of trusty? | 16:56 |
elfy | not anymore | 16:57 |
elfy | trusty is released | 16:58 |
slickymasterWork | gQuigs: at the most you could get the source images containing the source code used to build Ubuntu | 17:00 |
gQuigs | elfy: we still do daily images for precise: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/ | 17:00 |
slickymasterWork | gQuigs: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/source/pending/source/ | 17:00 |
gQuigs | how else will we test the point releases? | 17:00 |
elfy | gQuigs: good point | 17:00 |
* elfy is in non lts mode already :) | 17:01 | |
elfy | balloons: what are the plans for Trusty dailies? | 17:02 |
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