| daftykins | not a problem for me, but it's made my problem as i have to deal with peoples Apple toys occasionally | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| directhe` | time for dinner | 00:00 |
| shauno | but you're not in the UK? | 00:00 |
| daftykins | shauno: correct | 00:01 |
| daftykins | we have our own postcodes but it rejects them | 00:01 |
| shauno | so the actual issue is that itms isn't available in your country :p | 00:01 |
| shauno | curious, will amazon ship you writable media? | 00:02 |
| daftykins | 'itms' ? | 00:02 |
| shauno | itunes music store | 00:02 |
| daftykins | well sort of, bit rude to neglect us | 00:02 |
| daftykins | yeah, app store stuff too | 00:03 |
| directhe` | moop | 00:04 |
| daftykins | a wild directHE! | 00:05 |
| directhe` | DINNERFOOD! | 00:07 |
| daftykins | oh my, i just twigged | 00:09 |
| daftykins | perhaps they wanted a space where i put none | 00:09 |
| daftykins | or didn't want one where i put one | 00:09 |
| daftykins | lets see before i submit this help email... | 00:09 |
| daftykins | ugh can't find where to manually do it now | 00:10 |
| daftykins | oh i screenshotted | 00:13 |
| daftykins | ok, i think it was a pinkware problem | 00:13 |
| daftykins | FALSE ALARM | 00:13 |
| shauno | now what are we supposed to do with all these pitchforks? | 00:17 |
| daftykins | save them for Apple | 00:19 |
| === Guest10602 is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Azelphur | Hmm, I'm playing with init scripts, in /etc/init.d/skeleton, in the stop function, why are there two start-stop-daemon calls, both of them --stop? | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | the second one seems to hang for me, which is why I ask | 00:32 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| MooDoo | howdy all | 06:03 |
| daftykins | morning sir | 06:04 |
| MooDoo | :) | 06:05 |
| Myrtti | morning | 06:05 |
| Myrtti | don't forget to vote! | 06:05 |
| MooDoo | howdy Myrtti | 06:05 |
| daftykins | there's a vote on? :) | 06:05 |
| MooDoo | No pirate party where i live....booooo :D | 06:05 |
| MooDoo | daftykins: european elections | 06:05 |
| daftykins | ah | 06:06 |
| daftykins | i'm not in the EU | 06:06 |
| daftykins | :) | 06:06 |
| MooDoo | where are you? | 06:06 |
| Myrtti | MooDoo: euvox.eu | 06:06 |
| Myrtti | still :-) | 06:06 |
| daftykins | Guernsey! | 06:06 |
| mapps | hey guys | 06:08 |
| daftykins | hi mapps | 06:09 |
| MooDoo | thanks Myrtti | 06:10 |
| mapps | sup mate | 06:10 |
| daftykins | mmm not much going on here | 06:10 |
| daftykins | got the cat asleep on my lap | 06:10 |
| mapps | haha | 06:11 |
| mapps | why u up so early! | 06:11 |
| daftykins | i am simply more broken than usual, today! | 06:12 |
| mapps | not slept?:P | 06:12 |
| daftykins | correct! | 06:12 |
| daftykins | http://i.imgur.com/J5EUMZh.jpg | 06:13 |
| daftykins | have an elephant joke | 06:13 |
| mapps | go ahead;] | 06:13 |
| mapps | get paid friday | 06:17 |
| mapps | and i havent blown all last months | 06:17 |
| mapps | wooo | 06:17 |
| mapps | although it was bonus month;p | 06:17 |
| daftykins | bonus month in April 0o | 06:18 |
| mapps | well | 06:18 |
| mapps | we get it in 2 payments end of march..end of financial year | 06:19 |
| mapps | and september | 06:19 |
| mapps | 38% of my salary this year:D | 06:19 |
| MooDoo | nice | 06:19 |
| MooDoo | 28th is payday for me. | 06:19 |
| MooDoo | I'll go vote at 4 this afternoon when I get home | 06:28 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 06:30 |
| MooDoo | hello davmor2 how goes it. | 06:31 |
| davmor2 | Good ta chaos but good \o/ | 06:31 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you? | 06:31 |
| daftykins | hmm good chaos | 06:31 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: yeah good thanks, roll on weekend off to bakewell | 06:31 |
| mapps | meow | 06:40 |
| mapps | bakewell? | 06:40 |
| daftykins | is that intel's next processor range? | 06:41 |
| mapps | i was thinking of the food | 06:41 |
| daftykins | i can always go for a bakewell | 06:41 |
| mapps | heh | 06:41 |
| daftykins | yeah, i was trying for a joke | 06:42 |
| mapps | :D | 06:43 |
| MooDoo | mapps: it's the home of the bakewell pudding :D | 06:45 |
| mapps | :D | 06:45 |
| mapps | absolutely bucketing down ere | 06:45 |
| mapps | same for y'all? | 06:46 |
| MooDoo | yeah here too | 06:46 |
| mapps | u watch the americans MooDoo? | 06:47 |
| mapps | finale was last night | 06:47 |
| MooDoo | mapps: no | 06:48 |
| mapps | :( | 06:49 |
| popey | Morning all | 06:53 |
| MooDoo | morning alan | 06:53 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: tart | 06:59 |
| davmor2 | in bakewell | 06:59 |
| popey | had excellent curry last night | 07:00 |
| davmor2 | popey: oh that sounds nice where was that at? | 07:02 |
| popey | lemme find it on google maps | 07:02 |
| popey | oh, no streetview here | 07:02 |
| popey | basically out the hotel turn left past the swimming pool over the road, along about 500 yards | 07:03 |
| popey | Arabic & Indian restaurant | 07:03 |
| MooDoo | I gave my dad some chilli sauce to spice up his curry, it was naga based lol oh how i laughed when he tried it | 07:03 |
| popey | basically the whole place was canonical people | 07:03 |
| popey | at one point there were about 16 of us in there | 07:04 |
| daftykins | D: | 07:05 |
| davmor2 | popey: hahaha | 07:06 |
| MooDoo | TheOpenSourcerer: my father had his first taste of naga based sauce for tea last night, once he'd recovered he punched me :) | 07:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ha ha. Nice one MooDoo | 07:37 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: hahahahaha | 07:38 |
| MooDoo | TheOpenSourcerer: and i thought it was quite mild lol | 07:38 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: that'll teach you to tell him it was a mild curry paste :P | 07:38 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: ooops my bad | 07:38 |
| === JamesTait is now known as Guest98379 | ||
| MooDoo | was nice though :) | 07:38 |
| daftykins | at least have a glass of milk on hand in future ;) | 07:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hope everyone who can is going to vote today. I have already. | 07:40 |
| daftykins | Voteman will get you otherwise! | 07:41 |
| MooDoo | TheOpenSourcerer: doing it at 4pm no pirate party where i am though :) | 07:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone running 14.04 and not yet done the update for this morning? | 07:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I noticed getting something called the "Ubuntu Web Broswer" which I'm not sure I ever installed before. Looks like it is the converged browser to run on phones etc, but is a bit of a pig to use with a mouse :-( | 07:46 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | commandline is # webbrowser-app | 07:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | to start it | 07:47 |
| diplo | Yep, on mines as well TheOpenSourcerer | 07:53 |
| MartijnVdS | it's part of the mobile stuff I guess | 07:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | diplo: Was it there before today's update? I never recalled seeing it before... | 07:54 |
| diplo | Can't say I've seen it before, but guess I've not been looking that hard either | 07:54 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:20 |
| MooDoo | morning bigcalm | 08:40 |
| bigcalm | o/ | 08:40 |
| hoover | Morning folks | 08:46 |
| MooDoo | howdy hoover | 08:47 |
| hoover | Any known problems with 14.04 losing keyboard focus / input methods when the screen is locked for some time? | 08:48 |
| hoover | std unity desktop btw | 08:49 |
| === deegee__ is now known as drussell | ||
| Laney | i'm supposed to hate the look of new spotify aren't i? | 08:56 |
| Laney | unfortunately i actually like it | 08:56 |
| === directhe` is now known as directhex | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:28 |
| xnox | VOTE FOR LIBDEMS =) | 09:31 |
| * xnox goes to vote | 09:31 | |
| brobostigon | lol. | 09:32 |
| Laney | I already voted | 09:34 |
| Laney | they thought it was weird that I took my cup of tea with me | 09:34 |
| bashrc_ | morning | 09:36 |
| brobostigon | i am going just after lunch. | 09:36 |
| === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc | ||
| * TheOpenSourcerer voted at 07:00am. Was expecting to be first in line at 06:57 but was 2nd :-( | 09:36 | |
| brobostigon | :( | 09:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Apologies for the unnecessary "am" there. | 09:37 |
| bashrc | vote early and often | 09:37 |
| * awilkins will probably vote Green | 09:37 | |
| awilkins | Having read the manifestos I agree more with them than other parties | 09:37 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: I go to work at 7, but they only opened the polling place at 7:30. So I'll go vote after work. | 09:37 |
| awilkins | They just need to fix their silly retrogressive policy on nuclear energy | 09:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It doesn't really matter who you vote for*. Just as long you vote. | 09:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | * Apart from the mad UKIP and ultra-right parties of course... | 09:38 |
| awilkins | The Green party should enthusiastically support the development of fusion | 09:38 |
| bashrc | I don't know if there is any fusion research being done in the uk | 09:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | IMHO We should invest the 50Bn they are planning to spend on that railway line into Fusion research instead. | 09:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | yes there is bashrc | 09:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | JET | 09:39 |
| Laney | scrap HS2, spend money developing fusion | 09:39 |
| awilkins | Yeah, we sponsor JET | 09:39 |
| Laney | oh hey, snap | 09:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | One of the pioneering Fusion research centres. | 09:40 |
| bashrc | fusion has been the great hope for a long time | 09:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Culham Labs nr. Didcot/Oxford | 09:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | JET = Joint European Torus | 09:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus | 09:41 |
| awilkins | We need to spread the wealth | 09:41 |
| awilkins | Sponsor lots of projects, not just pour money into tokamaks | 09:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Agreed. 50bn would go a *very* long way. | 09:41 |
| awilkins | Yeah, you could start 50 independent fusion foundations each charged to find and support a different project. | 09:42 |
| bashrc | http://www.ccfe.ac.uk/MAST.aspx | 09:42 |
| awilkins | Should be the Manhattan project of this age | 09:42 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: does that mean they'll only develop it if there's a war on? | 09:43 |
| awilkins | I sponsored these guys because I liked their Google talk a while back : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3 | 09:43 |
| awilkins | MartijnVdS, There will be a war of one kind or another over resources | 09:44 |
| awilkins | MartijnVdS, You could claim that the initial moves are already being made what with the Russian gas thing | 09:44 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: true | 09:44 |
| awilkins | And the middle east wars of the USA (which some suspect were done for purely economic reasons - to discourage trading of oil in Euro) | 09:45 |
| xnox | Laney: maybe it wasn't cup of tea they weired out about. But the fluffy slippers & dressing gown?! =)))))) | 09:51 |
| Laney | :P | 09:52 |
| xnox | Well most of British nuclear power comes from.... EDF and their french power plants =) | 09:55 |
| xnox | italians, german and australians are strange to be so against it.... | 09:55 |
| awilkins | The problem is all these antiquated PWRs | 09:56 |
| xnox | PWRs?! | 09:56 |
| awilkins | And people wanting to build more of them because they are "proven technology!!" | 09:56 |
| awilkins | Pressurised Water Reactor | 09:56 |
| xnox | ack. | 09:56 |
| bigcalm | syn | 09:56 |
| awilkins | Governments *really* want to build more of them because they make plutonium | 09:56 |
| awilkins | But more modern reactor designs have fewer headaches | 09:57 |
| bashrc | the pressurised water reactors detonate if they lose cooling. That seems like a design flaw to me | 10:06 |
| === Guest98379 is now known as JamesTait | ||
| TwistedLucidity | In that case, vote Green today; they're anti-nuke. | 10:40 |
| Myrtti | ♥ noodles ♥ I've finally found my favourite noodles, been going through the inventory of the Central Oriental supermarkets but no more | 10:53 |
| Myrtti | Indo Mie's Mi Goreng Satay noodles ♥ | 10:54 |
| cocoa117 | how do you make public_key authendication possible when you going through hoops of machines. E.g. server1 should only use firewall's public key to login, even when user connect it through hoops of firewall | 11:00 |
| cocoa117 | at the moment, it seems the ssh always asking for local machine's private key to authedicates | 11:00 |
| awilkins | cocoa117, Allow agent forwarding | 11:03 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, on which machine? from the local machine? | 11:03 |
| awilkins | cocoa117, Also, note that if you are using a screen multiplexer to keep sessions alive on these machines, disconnecting and reconnecting usually breaks that agent forwarding (for me, at least) | 11:03 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, so u mena tmux as multiplexer? | 11:04 |
| awilkins | cocoa117, add ForwardAgent yes to your ~/.ssh/config file (on a per-host basis if you are security minded) | 11:04 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, ok, i will give that a try, hold on | 11:04 |
| awilkins | cocoa117, I use byobu with tmux or screen usually | 11:04 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, i enabled on config file for both machine, the final server and firewall, it still showing permission denied (publickey) issue | 11:06 |
| awilkins | So it's enabled on your local client, and you established a brand new session to the first machine in the chain? | 11:07 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, i did have ControlPersist yes setup, should i close that one and try again | 11:07 |
| awilkins | Yeah, AFAIK it sets an environment variable for your agent when you first connect | 11:08 |
| awilkins | So existing terms will have no variable / old variable when you reconnect | 11:08 |
| awilkins | Which is why it breaks across sessions | 11:09 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, still not working. by enabling debug, i can still see following | 11:13 |
| cocoa117 | ffering RSA public key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa | 11:13 |
| cocoa117 | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey | 11:13 |
| cocoa117 | debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa | 11:13 |
| cocoa117 | debug1: No more authentication methods to try. | 11:13 |
| cocoa117 | Permission denied (publickey). | 11:13 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, i am guessing it still trying using my local key to authendicate | 11:14 |
| awilkins | It's trying roots keys | 11:14 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, by the way, i am using ProxyCommand ssh firewall nc %h %p 2> /dev/null | 11:15 |
| awilkins | And yes, local ones | 11:15 |
| awilkins | No idea what ProxyCommand does | 11:15 |
| awilkins | Are the keys you want on the servers? | 11:15 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, on config file for which host should i set the ForwardAgent yes? should it both firewall and final destination server? | 11:15 |
| cocoa117 | awilkins, yes, i can issue manual ssh server1 on firewall to login right way without asking password | 11:16 |
| awilkins | Is the key you want actually in root's home folder? | 11:16 |
| awilkins | Maybe this article will help :http://blog.lyte.id.au/2012/03/19/ssh-agent-forwarding-is-a-bug/ | 11:17 |
| awilkins | Or is that what you got it from :-) | 11:17 |
| === JamesTait is now known as Guest4760 | ||
| bashrc | voted in the EU elections | 12:47 |
| marcushaslam | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g2uhnen63lkhl43b5e5znxxjcqa | 12:47 |
| exobuzz | popey, still got your Joggler ? | 13:00 |
| popey | exobuzz: sadly not | 13:02 |
| exobuzz | bah :) | 13:02 |
| exobuzz | did you sell it and get all your money back ? | 13:03 |
| popey | yeah | 13:03 |
| exobuzz | they still sell for only £10 less than original price :) £10 for a joggler for 3+ uyears is good value. | 13:03 |
| exobuzz | popey, i shoehorned xubuntu 14.04 onto them. it's a little ugly, in that its an ancient xserver (due to driver), and some sticky tape. latest xbmc works though | 13:05 |
| popey | exobuzz: i saw your post, nice one. | 13:34 |
| exobuzz | good to know my spam is still getting through ;-) | 13:35 |
| popey | ☻ | 13:44 |
| diddledan | we all know what a "brazillian" is, so what's a "brazillian blow dry"? | 15:04 |
| diddledan | (as advertised at me by groupon) | 15:04 |
| mapps | and it starts again few hours no rain..pourin down now;/ | 16:16 |
| popey | \o/ bright and sunny here | 16:16 |
| daftykins | rain down here | 16:17 |
| daftykins | storm predictions | 16:17 |
| daftykins | i love a good storm | 16:17 |
| brobostigon | rain here also. | 16:17 |
| brobostigon | unfortunatly, the rain might inhibit me from going to my local for quiz tonight. | 16:17 |
| popey | do you not own a coat? | 16:18 |
| popey | or indeed an umbrella | 16:18 |
| brobostigon | several of both, | 16:19 |
| directhex | The Witcher 2 lands on steam/linux | 16:22 |
| awilkins | Whoa | 16:23 |
| awilkins | Wonder if it runs better than on Windows? | 16:23 |
| mapps | brobostigon taxi?:D | 16:24 |
| mapps | its absolutely heaving down here..but il probably still go out later just means getting a taxi | 16:25 |
| brobostigon | mapps: not likely, it isnt very far, maybe 15 minutes walk, | 16:25 |
| mapps | yea thats all it is to the casino (assuming i go) | 16:25 |
| mapps | but 15mins in rain == very soaked | 16:25 |
| brobostigon | depends how heavy, yes. | 16:26 |
| === JamesTait is now known as Guest37700 | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| daftykins | there's something really satisfying about re-doing laptop cooling solutions | 16:48 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb7rbkq7qasuh4r/IMG_20140522_173609.jpg | 16:48 |
| daftykins | before | 16:48 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb97r3ebo4tk2hz/IMG_20140522_174656.jpg | 16:48 |
| daftykins | and after ^_^ | 16:48 |
| Myrtti | I used to brush and vacuum my laptop | 16:59 |
| Myrtti | not sure if I'm allowed to this one | 16:59 |
| SuperEngineer | Myrtti: have you tried fluffing and blowing it instead? | 17:01 |
| daftykins | i had to double-take that as not being a diddledan line for a moment | 17:02 |
| diddledan | :-) | 17:02 |
| diddledan | I'm glad I have a reputation | 17:02 |
| daftykins | lol | 17:03 |
| Myrtti | SuperEngineer: I mean I opened it and brushed the dust loose with a fine watercolour brush with a low power vacuum cleaner in the other hand | 17:03 |
| diddledan | said the actress to the bishop | 17:04 |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm... spend the money - get some air duster... & blow it | 17:04 |
| * SuperEngineer thinks this channel could soon go off air ;) | 17:05 | |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer, as long as the blowing isn't of the brazillian variety | 17:05 |
| MooDoo | evening all | 17:05 |
| diddledan | seriously, I want to know what a brazillian blow dry is | 17:05 |
| SuperEngineer | oh ohhhh!" | 17:06 |
| SuperEngineer | 17:06 | |
| lubotu3 | While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. | 17:06 |
| MooDoo | a combination of formaldehyde and keratin to keep locks straight for up to three months, | 17:06 |
| MooDoo | Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2488081/As-Jennifer-Aniston-forced-chop-hair-short-experts-warn-Brazilian-blowdry-effects.html#ixzz32StkoUwa | 17:06 |
| MooDoo | Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook | 17:06 |
| MooDoo | damn didn't mean to copy all that, but there is your answer diddledan | 17:07 |
| diddledan | :-p | 17:07 |
| diddledan | it probably forced the attribution into your clipboard sneakily | 17:07 |
| MooDoo | oh </sarcasm> damn missed that | 17:07 |
| SuperEngineer | ...said the... nah! | 17:08 |
| popey | yeah, there are plugins to disable that copy/paste stuff | 17:09 |
| MooDoo | yeah sorry about that | 17:11 |
| popey | meh | 17:13 |
| popey | we have all done it | 17:13 |
| popey | worth finding the extensions though :)_ | 17:13 |
| popey | tynt is one iirc | 17:13 |
| ali1234 | speaking of really stupid javascript things on websites | 17:38 |
| ali1234 | gmail now has a right click menu which prevents you from opening an email in a new tab | 17:39 |
| ali1234 | is there an extension to prevent websites from hijacking the right click menu? | 17:39 |
| ali1234 | oh even better, there's just a firefox setting for it | 17:42 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| === Guest45771 is now known as Monotoko | ||
| Myrtti | oh wow, it wasn't necessarily an old normal thunderstorm then | 18:05 |
| Myrtti | http://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/latest-news/video_gallery_tornadoes_spotted_over_huntingdonshire_1_3612122 | 18:05 |
| daftykins | haha | 18:05 |
| Myrtti | our bbq cover has taken flight and can't find it anywhere :-( | 18:08 |
| daftykins | darn why do i always forget the key combo to zap the PRAM | 18:08 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: it's probably somewhere near Scotland by now | 18:09 |
| mapps | hm double argh | 18:13 |
| mapps | i took an old dell apart a while back..delayed doing anything else | 18:13 |
| mapps | cant remember where the svrews are:| | 18:13 |
| mapps | and im stuck in a queue on the phone to student finance :( | 18:14 |
| daftykins | mapps: D: | 18:26 |
| daftykins | mapps: but you've not been a student since forever! | 18:26 |
| mapps | ARGH | 19:03 |
| mapps | yea daftykins | 19:03 |
| mapps | but almost paid it back and have to switch to direct debit so as to not overpay | 19:03 |
| mapps | so i phone up to setup an online ac and anyway they send me a link ythat dont wor | 19:03 |
| mapps | work | 19:03 |
| mapps | fixed after resetting it all again | 19:09 |
| mapps | urgh | 19:09 |
| === JamesTait is now known as Guest23157 | ||
| Krenair | Needed a basic VM on my laptop to emulate a slow computer, thought I'd stick Ubuntu in there (Ubuntu is also the host if that matters). | 20:42 |
| Krenair | I get up to the 'Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu' screen, and then stuff breaks. I haven't run into an issue like this while installing Ubuntu before.. | 20:43 |
| Krenair | It appeared to go back to the 'Ubuntu . . . . .' loading screen thing, and is currently at a blank screen | 20:43 |
| directhex | http://imgur.com/a/vshJG?#0 | 22:30 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
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