[00:00] not a problem for me, but it's made my problem as i have to deal with peoples Apple toys occasionally [00:00] time for dinner [00:00] but you're not in the UK? [00:01] shauno: correct [00:01] we have our own postcodes but it rejects them [00:01] so the actual issue is that itms isn't available in your country :p [00:02] curious, will amazon ship you writable media? [00:02] 'itms' ? [00:02] itunes music store [00:02] well sort of, bit rude to neglect us [00:03] yeah, app store stuff too [00:04] moop [00:05] a wild directHE! [00:07] DINNERFOOD! [00:09] oh my, i just twigged [00:09] perhaps they wanted a space where i put none [00:09] or didn't want one where i put one [00:09] lets see before i submit this help email... [00:10] ugh can't find where to manually do it now [00:13] oh i screenshotted [00:13] ok, i think it was a pinkware problem [00:13] FALSE ALARM [00:17] now what are we supposed to do with all these pitchforks? [00:19] save them for Apple === Guest10602 is now known as Lcawte [00:31] Hmm, I'm playing with init scripts, in /etc/init.d/skeleton, in the stop function, why are there two start-stop-daemon calls, both of them --stop? [00:32] the second one seems to hang for me, which is why I ask === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [06:03] howdy all [06:04] morning sir [06:05] :) [06:05] morning [06:05] don't forget to vote! [06:05] howdy Myrtti [06:05] there's a vote on? :) [06:05] No pirate party where i live....booooo :D [06:05] daftykins: european elections [06:06] ah [06:06] i'm not in the EU [06:06] :) [06:06] where are you? [06:06] MooDoo: euvox.eu [06:06] still :-) [06:06] Guernsey! [06:08] hey guys [06:09] hi mapps [06:10] thanks Myrtti [06:10] sup mate [06:10] mmm not much going on here [06:10] got the cat asleep on my lap [06:11] haha [06:11] why u up so early! [06:12] i am simply more broken than usual, today! [06:12] not slept?:P [06:12] correct! [06:13] http://i.imgur.com/J5EUMZh.jpg [06:13] have an elephant joke [06:13] go ahead;] [06:17] get paid friday [06:17] and i havent blown all last months [06:17] wooo [06:17] although it was bonus month;p [06:18] bonus month in April 0o [06:18] well [06:19] we get it in 2 payments end of march..end of financial year [06:19] and september [06:19] 38% of my salary this year:D [06:19] nice [06:19] 28th is payday for me. [06:28] I'll go vote at 4 this afternoon when I get home [06:30] Morning all [06:31] hello davmor2 how goes it. [06:31] Good ta chaos but good \o/ [06:31] MooDoo: you? [06:31] hmm good chaos [06:31] davmor2: yeah good thanks, roll on weekend off to bakewell [06:40] meow [06:40] bakewell? [06:41] is that intel's next processor range? [06:41] i was thinking of the food [06:41] i can always go for a bakewell [06:41] heh [06:42] yeah, i was trying for a joke [06:43] :D [06:45] mapps: it's the home of the bakewell pudding :D [06:45] :D [06:45] absolutely bucketing down ere [06:46] same for y'all? [06:46] yeah here too [06:47] u watch the americans MooDoo? [06:47] finale was last night [06:48] mapps: no [06:49] :( [06:53] Morning all [06:53] morning alan [06:59] MooDoo: tart [06:59] in bakewell [07:00] had excellent curry last night [07:02] popey: oh that sounds nice where was that at? [07:02] lemme find it on google maps [07:02] oh, no streetview here [07:03] basically out the hotel turn left past the swimming pool over the road, along about 500 yards [07:03] Arabic & Indian restaurant [07:03] I gave my dad some chilli sauce to spice up his curry, it was naga based lol oh how i laughed when he tried it [07:03] basically the whole place was canonical people [07:04] at one point there were about 16 of us in there [07:05] D: [07:06] popey: hahaha [07:37] TheOpenSourcerer: my father had his first taste of naga based sauce for tea last night, once he'd recovered he punched me :) [07:37] ha ha. Nice one MooDoo [07:38] MooDoo: hahahahaha [07:38] TheOpenSourcerer: and i thought it was quite mild lol [07:38] MooDoo: that'll teach you to tell him it was a mild curry paste :P [07:38] davmor2: ooops my bad === JamesTait is now known as Guest98379 [07:38] was nice though :) [07:38] at least have a glass of milk on hand in future ;) [07:40] Hope everyone who can is going to vote today. I have already. [07:41] Voteman will get you otherwise! [07:41] TheOpenSourcerer: doing it at 4pm no pirate party where i am though :) [07:45] Anyone running 14.04 and not yet done the update for this morning? [07:46] I noticed getting something called the "Ubuntu Web Broswer" which I'm not sure I ever installed before. Looks like it is the converged browser to run on phones etc, but is a bit of a pig to use with a mouse :-( [07:47] commandline is # webbrowser-app [07:47] to start it [07:53] Yep, on mines as well TheOpenSourcerer [07:54] it's part of the mobile stuff I guess [07:54] diplo: Was it there before today's update? I never recalled seeing it before... [07:54] Can't say I've seen it before, but guess I've not been looking that hard either [08:20] Good morning peeps :) [08:40] morning bigcalm [08:40] o/ [08:46] Morning folks [08:47] howdy hoover [08:48] Any known problems with 14.04 losing keyboard focus / input methods when the screen is locked for some time? [08:49] std unity desktop btw === deegee__ is now known as drussell [08:56] i'm supposed to hate the look of new spotify aren't i? [08:56] unfortunately i actually like it === directhe` is now known as directhex [09:28] morning boys and girls. [09:31] VOTE FOR LIBDEMS =) [09:31] * xnox goes to vote [09:32] lol. [09:34] I already voted [09:34] they thought it was weird that I took my cup of tea with me [09:36] morning [09:36] i am going just after lunch. === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc [09:36] * TheOpenSourcerer voted at 07:00am. Was expecting to be first in line at 06:57 but was 2nd :-( [09:37] :( [09:37] Apologies for the unnecessary "am" there. [09:37] vote early and often [09:37] * awilkins will probably vote Green [09:37] Having read the manifestos I agree more with them than other parties [09:37] TheOpenSourcerer: I go to work at 7, but they only opened the polling place at 7:30. So I'll go vote after work. [09:38] They just need to fix their silly retrogressive policy on nuclear energy [09:38] It doesn't really matter who you vote for*. Just as long you vote. [09:38] * Apart from the mad UKIP and ultra-right parties of course... [09:38] The Green party should enthusiastically support the development of fusion [09:39] I don't know if there is any fusion research being done in the uk [09:39] IMHO We should invest the 50Bn they are planning to spend on that railway line into Fusion research instead. [09:39] yes there is bashrc [09:39] JET [09:39] scrap HS2, spend money developing fusion [09:39] Yeah, we sponsor JET [09:39] oh hey, snap [09:40] One of the pioneering Fusion research centres. [09:40] fusion has been the great hope for a long time [09:40] Culham Labs nr. Didcot/Oxford [09:40] JET = Joint European Torus [09:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus [09:41] We need to spread the wealth [09:41] Sponsor lots of projects, not just pour money into tokamaks [09:41] Agreed. 50bn would go a *very* long way. [09:42] Yeah, you could start 50 independent fusion foundations each charged to find and support a different project. [09:42] http://www.ccfe.ac.uk/MAST.aspx [09:42] Should be the Manhattan project of this age [09:43] awilkins: does that mean they'll only develop it if there's a war on? [09:43] I sponsored these guys because I liked their Google talk a while back : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3 [09:44] MartijnVdS, There will be a war of one kind or another over resources [09:44] MartijnVdS, You could claim that the initial moves are already being made what with the Russian gas thing [09:44] awilkins: true [09:45] And the middle east wars of the USA (which some suspect were done for purely economic reasons - to discourage trading of oil in Euro) [09:51] Laney: maybe it wasn't cup of tea they weired out about. But the fluffy slippers & dressing gown?! =)))))) [09:52] :P [09:55] Well most of British nuclear power comes from.... EDF and their french power plants =) [09:55] italians, german and australians are strange to be so against it.... [09:56] The problem is all these antiquated PWRs [09:56] PWRs?! [09:56] And people wanting to build more of them because they are "proven technology!!" [09:56] Pressurised Water Reactor [09:56] ack. [09:56] syn [09:56] Governments *really* want to build more of them because they make plutonium [09:57] But more modern reactor designs have fewer headaches [10:06] the pressurised water reactors detonate if they lose cooling. That seems like a design flaw to me === Guest98379 is now known as JamesTait [10:40] In that case, vote Green today; they're anti-nuke. [10:53] ♥ noodles ♥ I've finally found my favourite noodles, been going through the inventory of the Central Oriental supermarkets but no more [10:54] Indo Mie's Mi Goreng Satay noodles ♥ [11:00] how do you make public_key authendication possible when you going through hoops of machines. E.g. server1 should only use firewall's public key to login, even when user connect it through hoops of firewall [11:00] at the moment, it seems the ssh always asking for local machine's private key to authedicates [11:03] cocoa117, Allow agent forwarding [11:03] awilkins, on which machine? from the local machine? [11:03] cocoa117, Also, note that if you are using a screen multiplexer to keep sessions alive on these machines, disconnecting and reconnecting usually breaks that agent forwarding (for me, at least) [11:04] awilkins, so u mena tmux as multiplexer? [11:04] cocoa117, add ForwardAgent yes to your ~/.ssh/config file (on a per-host basis if you are security minded) [11:04] awilkins, ok, i will give that a try, hold on [11:04] cocoa117, I use byobu with tmux or screen usually [11:06] awilkins, i enabled on config file for both machine, the final server and firewall, it still showing permission denied (publickey) issue [11:07] So it's enabled on your local client, and you established a brand new session to the first machine in the chain? [11:07] awilkins, i did have ControlPersist yes setup, should i close that one and try again [11:08] Yeah, AFAIK it sets an environment variable for your agent when you first connect [11:08] So existing terms will have no variable / old variable when you reconnect [11:09] Which is why it breaks across sessions [11:13] awilkins, still not working. by enabling debug, i can still see following [11:13] ffering RSA public key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa [11:13] debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey [11:13] debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa [11:13] debug1: No more authentication methods to try. [11:13] Permission denied (publickey). [11:14] awilkins, i am guessing it still trying using my local key to authendicate [11:14] It's trying roots keys [11:15] awilkins, by the way, i am using ProxyCommand ssh firewall nc %h %p 2> /dev/null [11:15] And yes, local ones [11:15] No idea what ProxyCommand does [11:15] Are the keys you want on the servers? [11:15] awilkins, on config file for which host should i set the ForwardAgent yes? should it both firewall and final destination server? [11:16] awilkins, yes, i can issue manual ssh server1 on firewall to login right way without asking password [11:16] Is the key you want actually in root's home folder? [11:17] Maybe this article will help :http://blog.lyte.id.au/2012/03/19/ssh-agent-forwarding-is-a-bug/ [11:17] Or is that what you got it from :-) === JamesTait is now known as Guest4760 [12:47] voted in the EU elections [12:47] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g2uhnen63lkhl43b5e5znxxjcqa [13:00] popey, still got your Joggler ? [13:02] exobuzz: sadly not [13:02] bah :) [13:03] did you sell it and get all your money back ? [13:03] yeah [13:03] they still sell for only £10 less than original price :) £10 for a joggler for 3+ uyears is good value. [13:05] popey, i shoehorned xubuntu 14.04 onto them. it's a little ugly, in that its an ancient xserver (due to driver), and some sticky tape. latest xbmc works though [13:34] exobuzz: i saw your post, nice one. [13:35] good to know my spam is still getting through ;-) [13:44] ☻ [15:04] we all know what a "brazillian" is, so what's a "brazillian blow dry"? [15:04] (as advertised at me by groupon) [16:16] and it starts again few hours no rain..pourin down now;/ [16:16] \o/ bright and sunny here [16:17] rain down here [16:17] storm predictions [16:17] i love a good storm [16:17] rain here also. [16:17] unfortunatly, the rain might inhibit me from going to my local for quiz tonight. [16:18] do you not own a coat? [16:18] or indeed an umbrella [16:19] several of both, [16:22] The Witcher 2 lands on steam/linux [16:23] Whoa [16:23] Wonder if it runs better than on Windows? [16:24] brobostigon taxi?:D [16:25] its absolutely heaving down here..but il probably still go out later just means getting a taxi [16:25] mapps: not likely, it isnt very far, maybe 15 minutes walk, [16:25] yea thats all it is to the casino (assuming i go) [16:25] but 15mins in rain == very soaked [16:26] depends how heavy, yes. === JamesTait is now known as Guest37700 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:48] there's something really satisfying about re-doing laptop cooling solutions [16:48] https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb7rbkq7qasuh4r/IMG_20140522_173609.jpg [16:48] before [16:48] https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb97r3ebo4tk2hz/IMG_20140522_174656.jpg [16:48] and after ^_^ [16:59] I used to brush and vacuum my laptop [16:59] not sure if I'm allowed to this one [17:01] Myrtti: have you tried fluffing and blowing it instead? [17:02] i had to double-take that as not being a diddledan line for a moment [17:02] :-) [17:02] I'm glad I have a reputation [17:03] lol [17:03] SuperEngineer: I mean I opened it and brushed the dust loose with a fine watercolour brush with a low power vacuum cleaner in the other hand [17:04] said the actress to the bishop [17:04] hmmm... spend the money - get some air duster... & blow it [17:05] * SuperEngineer thinks this channel could soon go off air ;) [17:05] SuperEngineer, as long as the blowing isn't of the brazillian variety [17:05] evening all [17:05] seriously, I want to know what a brazillian blow dry is [17:06] oh ohhhh!" [17:06] !google [17:06] While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [17:06] a combination of formaldehyde and keratin to keep locks straight for up to three months, [17:06] Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2488081/As-Jennifer-Aniston-forced-chop-hair-short-experts-warn-Brazilian-blowdry-effects.html#ixzz32StkoUwa [17:06] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook [17:07] damn didn't mean to copy all that, but there is your answer diddledan [17:07] :-p [17:07] it probably forced the attribution into your clipboard sneakily [17:07] oh damn missed that [17:08] ...said the... nah! [17:09] yeah, there are plugins to disable that copy/paste stuff [17:11] yeah sorry about that [17:13] meh [17:13] we have all done it [17:13] worth finding the extensions though :)_ [17:13] tynt is one iirc [17:38] speaking of really stupid javascript things on websites [17:39] gmail now has a right click menu which prevents you from opening an email in a new tab [17:39] is there an extension to prevent websites from hijacking the right click menu? [17:42] oh even better, there's just a firefox setting for it === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === Guest45771 is now known as Monotoko [18:05] oh wow, it wasn't necessarily an old normal thunderstorm then [18:05] http://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/latest-news/video_gallery_tornadoes_spotted_over_huntingdonshire_1_3612122 [18:05] haha [18:08] our bbq cover has taken flight and can't find it anywhere :-( [18:08] darn why do i always forget the key combo to zap the PRAM [18:09] Myrtti: it's probably somewhere near Scotland by now [18:13] hm double argh [18:13] i took an old dell apart a while back..delayed doing anything else [18:13] cant remember where the svrews are:| [18:14] and im stuck in a queue on the phone to student finance :( [18:26] mapps: D: [18:26] mapps: but you've not been a student since forever! [19:03] ARGH [19:03] yea daftykins [19:03] but almost paid it back and have to switch to direct debit so as to not overpay [19:03] so i phone up to setup an online ac and anyway they send me a link ythat dont wor [19:03] work [19:09] fixed after resetting it all again [19:09] urgh === JamesTait is now known as Guest23157 [20:42] Needed a basic VM on my laptop to emulate a slow computer, thought I'd stick Ubuntu in there (Ubuntu is also the host if that matters). [20:43] I get up to the 'Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu' screen, and then stuff breaks. I haven't run into an issue like this while installing Ubuntu before.. [20:43] It appeared to go back to the 'Ubuntu . . . . .' loading screen thing, and is currently at a blank screen [22:30] http://imgur.com/a/vshJG?#0 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away