[00:00] <daftykins> not a problem for me, but it's made my problem as i have to deal with peoples Apple toys occasionally
[00:00] <directhe`> time for dinner
[00:00] <shauno> but you're not in the UK?
[00:01] <daftykins> shauno: correct
[00:01] <daftykins> we have our own postcodes but it rejects them
[00:01] <shauno> so the actual issue is that itms isn't available in your country :p
[00:02] <shauno> curious, will amazon ship you writable media?
[00:02] <daftykins> 'itms' ?
[00:02] <shauno> itunes music store
[00:02] <daftykins> well sort of, bit rude to neglect us
[00:03] <daftykins> yeah, app store stuff too
[00:04] <directhe`> moop
[00:05] <daftykins> a wild directHE!
[00:07] <directhe`> DINNERFOOD!
[00:09] <daftykins> oh my, i just twigged
[00:09] <daftykins> perhaps they wanted a space where i put none
[00:09] <daftykins> or didn't want one where i put one
[00:09] <daftykins> lets see before i submit this help email...
[00:10] <daftykins> ugh can't find where to manually do it now
[00:13] <daftykins> oh i screenshotted
[00:13] <daftykins> ok, i think it was a pinkware problem
[00:13] <daftykins> FALSE ALARM
[00:17] <shauno> now what are we supposed to do with all these pitchforks?
[00:19] <daftykins> save them for Apple
[00:31] <Azelphur> Hmm, I'm playing with init scripts, in /etc/init.d/skeleton, in the stop function, why are there two start-stop-daemon calls, both of them --stop?
[00:32] <Azelphur> the second one seems to hang for me, which is why I ask
[06:03] <MooDoo> howdy all
[06:04] <daftykins> morning sir
[06:05] <MooDoo> :)
[06:05] <Myrtti> morning
[06:05] <Myrtti> don't forget to vote!
[06:05] <MooDoo> howdy Myrtti
[06:05] <daftykins> there's a vote on? :)
[06:05] <MooDoo> No pirate party where i live....booooo :D
[06:05] <MooDoo> daftykins: european elections
[06:06] <daftykins> ah
[06:06] <daftykins> i'm not in the EU
[06:06] <daftykins> :)
[06:06] <MooDoo> where are you?
[06:06] <Myrtti> MooDoo: euvox.eu
[06:06] <Myrtti> still :-)
[06:06] <daftykins> Guernsey!
[06:08] <mapps> hey guys
[06:09] <daftykins> hi mapps
[06:10] <MooDoo> thanks Myrtti
[06:10] <mapps> sup mate
[06:10] <daftykins> mmm not much going on here
[06:10] <daftykins> got the cat asleep on my lap
[06:11] <mapps> haha
[06:11] <mapps> why u up so early!
[06:12] <daftykins> i am simply more broken than usual, today!
[06:12] <mapps> not slept?:P
[06:12] <daftykins> correct!
[06:13] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/J5EUMZh.jpg
[06:13] <daftykins> have an elephant joke
[06:13] <mapps> go ahead;]
[06:17] <mapps> get paid friday
[06:17] <mapps> and i havent blown all last months
[06:17] <mapps> wooo
[06:17] <mapps> although it was bonus month;p
[06:18] <daftykins> bonus month in April 0o
[06:18] <mapps> well
[06:19] <mapps> we get it in 2 payments end of march..end of financial year
[06:19] <mapps> and september
[06:19] <mapps> 38% of my salary this year:D
[06:19] <MooDoo> nice
[06:19] <MooDoo> 28th is payday for me.
[06:28] <MooDoo> I'll go vote at 4 this afternoon when I get home
[06:30] <davmor2> Morning all
[06:31] <MooDoo> hello davmor2 how goes it.
[06:31] <davmor2> Good ta chaos but good \o/
[06:31] <davmor2> MooDoo: you?
[06:31] <daftykins> hmm good chaos
[06:31] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah good thanks, roll on weekend off to bakewell
[06:40] <mapps> meow
[06:40] <mapps> bakewell?
[06:41] <daftykins> is that intel's next processor range?
[06:41] <mapps> i was thinking of the food
[06:41] <daftykins> i can always go for a bakewell
[06:41] <mapps> heh
[06:42] <daftykins> yeah, i was trying for a joke
[06:43] <mapps> :D
[06:45] <MooDoo> mapps: it's the home of the bakewell pudding :D
[06:45] <mapps> :D
[06:45] <mapps> absolutely bucketing down ere
[06:46] <mapps> same for y'all?
[06:46] <MooDoo> yeah here too
[06:47] <mapps> u watch the americans MooDoo?
[06:47] <mapps> finale was last night
[06:48] <MooDoo> mapps: no
[06:49] <mapps> :(
[06:53] <popey> Morning all
[06:53] <MooDoo> morning alan
[06:59] <davmor2> MooDoo: tart
[06:59] <davmor2> in bakewell
[07:00] <popey> had excellent curry last night
[07:02] <davmor2> popey: oh that sounds nice where was that at?
[07:02] <popey> lemme find it on google maps
[07:02] <popey> oh, no streetview here
[07:03] <popey> basically out the hotel turn left past the swimming pool over the road, along about 500 yards
[07:03] <popey> Arabic & Indian restaurant
[07:03] <MooDoo> I gave my dad some chilli sauce to spice up his curry, it was naga based lol oh how i laughed when he tried it
[07:03] <popey> basically the whole place was canonical people
[07:04] <popey> at one point there were about 16 of us in there
[07:05] <daftykins> D:
[07:06] <davmor2> popey: hahaha
[07:37] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: my father had his first taste of naga based sauce for tea last night, once he'd recovered he punched me :)
[07:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> ha ha. Nice one MooDoo
[07:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: hahahahaha
[07:38] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: and i thought it was quite mild lol
[07:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: that'll teach you to tell him it was a mild curry paste :P
[07:38] <MooDoo> davmor2: ooops my bad
[07:38] <MooDoo> was nice though :)
[07:38] <daftykins> at least have a glass of milk on hand in future ;)
[07:40] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hope everyone who can is going to vote today. I have already.
[07:41] <daftykins> Voteman will get you otherwise!
[07:41] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: doing it at 4pm no pirate party where i am though :)
[07:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> Anyone running 14.04 and not yet done the update for this morning?
[07:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> I noticed getting something called the "Ubuntu Web Broswer" which I'm not sure I ever installed before. Looks like it is the converged browser to run on phones etc, but is a bit of a pig to use with a mouse :-(
[07:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> commandline is # webbrowser-app
[07:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> to start it
[07:53] <diplo> Yep, on mines as well TheOpenSourcerer
[07:54] <MartijnVdS> it's part of the mobile stuff I guess
[07:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> diplo: Was it there before today's update? I never recalled seeing it before...
[07:54] <diplo> Can't say I've seen it before, but guess I've not been looking that hard either
[08:20] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:40] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[08:40] <bigcalm> o/
[08:46] <hoover> Morning folks
[08:47] <MooDoo> howdy hoover
[08:48] <hoover> Any known problems with 14.04 losing keyboard focus / input methods when the screen is locked for some time?
[08:49] <hoover> std unity desktop btw
[08:56] <Laney> i'm supposed to hate the look of new spotify aren't i?
[08:56] <Laney> unfortunately i actually like it
[09:28] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:31] <xnox> VOTE FOR LIBDEMS =)
[09:31]  * xnox goes to vote
[09:32] <brobostigon> lol.
[09:34] <Laney> I already voted
[09:34] <Laney> they thought it was weird that I took my cup of tea with me
[09:36] <bashrc_> morning
[09:36] <brobostigon> i am going just after lunch.
[09:36]  * TheOpenSourcerer voted at 07:00am. Was expecting to be first in line at 06:57 but was 2nd :-(
[09:37] <brobostigon> :(
[09:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> Apologies for the unnecessary "am" there.
[09:37] <bashrc> vote early and often
[09:37]  * awilkins will probably vote Green
[09:37] <awilkins> Having read the manifestos I agree more with them than other parties
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: I go to work at 7, but they only opened the polling place at 7:30. So I'll go vote after work.
[09:38] <awilkins> They just need to fix their silly retrogressive policy on nuclear energy
[09:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> It doesn't really matter who you vote for*. Just as long you vote.
[09:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> * Apart from the mad UKIP and ultra-right parties of course...
[09:38] <awilkins> The Green party should enthusiastically support the development of fusion
[09:39] <bashrc> I don't know if there is any fusion research being done in the uk
[09:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> IMHO We should invest the 50Bn they are planning to spend on that railway line into Fusion research instead.
[09:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> yes there is bashrc
[09:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> JET
[09:39] <Laney> scrap HS2, spend money developing fusion
[09:39] <awilkins> Yeah, we sponsor JET
[09:39] <Laney> oh hey, snap
[09:40] <TheOpenSourcerer> One of the pioneering Fusion research centres.
[09:40] <bashrc> fusion has been the great hope for a long time
[09:40] <TheOpenSourcerer> Culham Labs nr. Didcot/Oxford
[09:40] <TheOpenSourcerer> JET = Joint European Torus
[09:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus
[09:41] <awilkins> We need to  spread the wealth
[09:41] <awilkins> Sponsor lots of projects, not just pour money into tokamaks
[09:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> Agreed. 50bn would go a *very* long way.
[09:42] <awilkins> Yeah, you could start 50 independent fusion foundations each charged to find and support a different project.
[09:42] <bashrc> http://www.ccfe.ac.uk/MAST.aspx
[09:42] <awilkins> Should be the Manhattan project of this age
[09:43] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: does that mean they'll only develop it if there's a war on?
[09:43] <awilkins> I sponsored these guys because I liked their Google talk a while back : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3
[09:44] <awilkins> MartijnVdS, There will be a war of one kind or another over resources
[09:44] <awilkins> MartijnVdS, You could claim that the initial moves are already being made what with the Russian gas thing
[09:44] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: true
[09:45] <awilkins> And the middle east wars of the USA (which some suspect were done for purely economic reasons - to discourage trading of oil in Euro)
[09:51] <xnox> Laney: maybe it wasn't cup of tea they weired out about. But the fluffy slippers & dressing gown?! =))))))
[09:52] <Laney> :P
[09:55] <xnox> Well most of British nuclear power comes from.... EDF and their french power plants =)
[09:55] <xnox> italians, german and australians are strange to be so against it....
[09:56] <awilkins> The problem is all these antiquated PWRs
[09:56] <xnox> PWRs?!
[09:56] <awilkins> And people wanting to build more of them because they are "proven technology!!"
[09:56] <awilkins> Pressurised Water Reactor
[09:56] <xnox> ack.
[09:56] <bigcalm> syn
[09:56] <awilkins> Governments *really* want to build more of them because they make plutonium
[09:57] <awilkins> But more modern reactor designs have fewer headaches
[10:06] <bashrc> the pressurised water reactors detonate if they lose cooling.  That seems like a design flaw to me
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> In that case, vote Green today; they're anti-nuke.
[10:53] <Myrtti> ♥ noodles ♥ I've finally found my favourite noodles, been going through the inventory of the Central Oriental supermarkets but no more
[10:54] <Myrtti> Indo Mie's Mi Goreng Satay noodles ♥
[11:00] <cocoa117> how do you make public_key authendication possible when you going through hoops of machines. E.g. server1 should only use firewall's public key to login, even when user connect it through hoops of firewall
[11:00] <cocoa117> at the moment, it seems the ssh always asking for local machine's private key to authedicates
[11:03] <awilkins> cocoa117, Allow agent forwarding
[11:03] <cocoa117> awilkins, on which machine? from the local machine?
[11:03] <awilkins> cocoa117, Also, note that if you are using a screen multiplexer to keep sessions alive on these machines, disconnecting and reconnecting usually breaks that agent forwarding (for me, at least)
[11:04] <cocoa117> awilkins, so u mena tmux as multiplexer?
[11:04] <awilkins> cocoa117, add ForwardAgent yes to your ~/.ssh/config file (on a per-host basis if you are security minded)
[11:04] <cocoa117> awilkins, ok, i will give that a try, hold on
[11:04] <awilkins> cocoa117, I use byobu with tmux or screen usually
[11:06] <cocoa117> awilkins, i enabled on config file for both machine, the final server and firewall, it still showing permission denied (publickey) issue
[11:07] <awilkins> So it's enabled on your local client, and you established a brand new session to the first machine in the chain?
[11:07] <cocoa117> awilkins, i did have ControlPersist yes setup, should i close that one and try again
[11:08] <awilkins> Yeah, AFAIK it sets an environment variable for your agent when you first connect
[11:08] <awilkins> So existing terms will have no variable / old variable when you reconnect
[11:09] <awilkins> Which is why it breaks across sessions
[11:13] <cocoa117> awilkins, still not working. by enabling debug, i can still see following
[11:13] <cocoa117> ffering RSA public key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa
[11:13] <cocoa117> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
[11:13] <cocoa117> debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa
[11:13] <cocoa117> debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
[11:13] <cocoa117> Permission denied (publickey).
[11:14] <cocoa117> awilkins, i am guessing it still trying using my local key to authendicate
[11:14] <awilkins> It's trying roots keys
[11:15] <cocoa117> awilkins, by the way, i am using ProxyCommand ssh firewall nc %h %p 2> /dev/null
[11:15] <awilkins> And yes, local ones
[11:15] <awilkins> No idea what ProxyCommand does
[11:15] <awilkins> Are the keys you want on the servers?
[11:15] <cocoa117> awilkins, on config file for which host should i set the ForwardAgent yes? should it both firewall and final destination server?
[11:16] <cocoa117> awilkins, yes, i can issue manual ssh server1 on firewall to login right way without asking password
[11:16] <awilkins> Is the key you want actually in root's home folder?
[11:17] <awilkins> Maybe this article will help :http://blog.lyte.id.au/2012/03/19/ssh-agent-forwarding-is-a-bug/
[11:17] <awilkins> Or is that what you got it from :-)
[12:47] <bashrc> voted in the EU elections
[12:47] <marcushaslam> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g2uhnen63lkhl43b5e5znxxjcqa
[13:00] <exobuzz> popey, still got your Joggler ?
[13:02] <popey> exobuzz: sadly not
[13:02] <exobuzz> bah :)
[13:03] <exobuzz> did you sell it and get all your money back ?
[13:03] <popey> yeah
[13:03] <exobuzz> they still sell for only £10 less than original price :) £10 for a joggler for 3+ uyears is good value.
[13:05] <exobuzz> popey, i shoehorned xubuntu 14.04 onto them. it's a little ugly, in that its an ancient xserver (due to driver), and some sticky tape. latest xbmc works though
[13:34] <popey> exobuzz: i saw your post, nice one.
[13:35] <exobuzz> good to know my spam is still getting through ;-)
[13:44] <popey> ☻
[15:04] <diddledan> we all know what a "brazillian" is, so what's a "brazillian blow dry"?
[15:04] <diddledan> (as advertised at me by groupon)
[16:16] <mapps> and it starts again few hours no rain..pourin down now;/
[16:16] <popey> \o/ bright and sunny here
[16:17] <daftykins> rain down here
[16:17] <daftykins> storm predictions
[16:17] <daftykins> i love a good storm
[16:17] <brobostigon> rain here also.
[16:17] <brobostigon> unfortunatly, the rain might inhibit me from going to my local for quiz tonight.
[16:18] <popey> do you not own a coat?
[16:18] <popey> or indeed an umbrella
[16:19] <brobostigon> several of both,
[16:22] <directhex> The Witcher 2 lands on steam/linux
[16:23] <awilkins> Whoa
[16:23] <awilkins> Wonder if it runs better than on Windows?
[16:24] <mapps> brobostigon taxi?:D
[16:25] <mapps> its absolutely heaving down here..but il probably still go out later just means getting a taxi
[16:25] <brobostigon> mapps: not likely, it isnt very far, maybe 15 minutes walk,
[16:25] <mapps> yea thats all it is to the casino (assuming i go)
[16:25] <mapps> but 15mins in rain == very soaked
[16:26] <brobostigon> depends how heavy, yes.
[16:48] <daftykins> there's something really satisfying about re-doing laptop cooling solutions
[16:48] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb7rbkq7qasuh4r/IMG_20140522_173609.jpg
[16:48] <daftykins> before
[16:48] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb97r3ebo4tk2hz/IMG_20140522_174656.jpg
[16:48] <daftykins> and after ^_^
[16:59] <Myrtti> I used to brush and vacuum my laptop
[16:59] <Myrtti> not sure if I'm allowed to this one
[17:01] <SuperEngineer> Myrtti: have you tried fluffing and blowing it instead?
[17:02] <daftykins> i had to double-take that as not being a diddledan line for a moment
[17:02] <diddledan> :-)
[17:02] <diddledan> I'm glad I have a reputation
[17:03] <daftykins> lol
[17:03] <Myrtti> SuperEngineer: I mean I opened it and brushed the dust loose with a fine watercolour brush with a low power vacuum cleaner in the other hand
[17:04] <diddledan> said the actress to the bishop
[17:04] <SuperEngineer> hmmm... spend the money - get some air duster... & blow it
[17:05]  * SuperEngineer thinks this channel could soon go off air ;)
[17:05] <diddledan> SuperEngineer, as long as the blowing isn't of the brazillian variety
[17:05] <MooDoo> evening all
[17:05] <diddledan> seriously, I want to know what a brazillian blow dry is
[17:06] <SuperEngineer> oh ohhhh!"
[17:06] <SuperEngineer> !google
[17:06] <MooDoo> a combination of formaldehyde and keratin to keep locks straight for up to three months,
[17:06] <MooDoo> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2488081/As-Jennifer-Aniston-forced-chop-hair-short-experts-warn-Brazilian-blowdry-effects.html#ixzz32StkoUwa
[17:06] <MooDoo> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
[17:07] <MooDoo> damn didn't mean to copy all that, but there is your answer diddledan
[17:07] <diddledan> :-p
[17:07] <diddledan> it probably forced the attribution into your clipboard sneakily
[17:07] <MooDoo> oh </sarcasm> damn missed that
[17:08] <SuperEngineer> ...said the... nah!
[17:09] <popey> yeah, there are plugins to disable that copy/paste stuff
[17:11] <MooDoo> yeah sorry about that
[17:13] <popey> meh
[17:13] <popey> we have all done it
[17:13] <popey> worth finding the extensions though :)_
[17:13] <popey> tynt is one iirc
[17:38] <ali1234> speaking of really stupid javascript things on websites
[17:39] <ali1234> gmail now has a right click menu which prevents you from opening an email in a new tab
[17:39] <ali1234> is there an extension to prevent websites from hijacking the right click menu?
[17:42] <ali1234> oh even better, there's just a firefox setting for it
[18:05] <Myrtti> oh wow, it wasn't necessarily an old normal thunderstorm then
[18:05] <Myrtti> http://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/latest-news/video_gallery_tornadoes_spotted_over_huntingdonshire_1_3612122
[18:05] <daftykins> haha
[18:08] <Myrtti> our bbq cover has taken flight and can't find it anywhere :-(
[18:08] <daftykins> darn why do i always forget the key combo to zap the PRAM
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: it's probably somewhere near Scotland by now
[18:13] <mapps> hm double argh
[18:13] <mapps> i took an old dell apart a while back..delayed doing anything else
[18:13] <mapps> cant remember where the svrews are:|
[18:14] <mapps> and im stuck in a queue on the phone to student finance :(
[18:26] <daftykins> mapps: D:
[18:26] <daftykins> mapps: but you've not been a student since forever!
[19:03] <mapps> ARGH
[19:03] <mapps> yea daftykins
[19:03] <mapps> but almost paid it back and have to switch to direct debit so as to not overpay
[19:03] <mapps> so i phone up to setup an online ac and anyway they send me a link ythat dont wor
[19:03] <mapps> work
[19:09] <mapps> fixed after resetting it all again
[19:09] <mapps> urgh
[20:42] <Krenair> Needed a basic VM on my laptop to emulate a slow computer, thought I'd stick Ubuntu in there (Ubuntu is also the host if that matters).
[20:43] <Krenair> I get up to the 'Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu' screen, and then stuff breaks. I haven't run into an issue like this while installing Ubuntu before..
[20:43] <Krenair> It appeared to go back to the 'Ubuntu . . . . .' loading screen thing, and is currently at a blank screen
[22:30] <directhex> http://imgur.com/a/vshJG?#0