| rick_h_ | I think my life has taken a downward turn https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie/issues/459 | 01:11 |
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| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/khM88b - fails to display on my ebook reader (Sony PRS-T2) · Issue #459 · bookieio/Bookie · GitHub | 01:11 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: How's that? | 01:25 |
| cmaloney | Seriously, if someone is trying to use Bookie on an eReader that's a big win. :) | 01:25 |
| rick_h_ | hah, trying to figure out why that fails? | 01:27 |
| rick_h_ | there's some debugging for me wheee | 01:27 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: how goes the father? | 01:28 |
| brousch | wontfix | 01:34 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 01:39 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: He's OK. Keeping him overnight | 01:50 |
| cmaloney | blah blah blah | 01:50 |
| cmaloney | ssdd | 01:50 |
| === brousch_ is now known as brousch | ||
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: :( | 03:18 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Yeah, fun times. | 03:33 |
| cmaloney | And with the upcoming move stuff it's been a bit depressing over here. | 03:34 |
| cmaloney | Got a lot of shit to take care of in the next few weeks | 03:34 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: well you know the rule. Let us know if there's anything you guys need a hand with. | 03:34 |
| cmaloney | Thanks. :) | 03:35 |
| cmaloney | same here on your end. :) | 03:35 |
| cmaloney | Anywho, off to the land of dreams and makebelieve. | 03:36 |
| cmaloney | laterness | 03:36 |
| === mrgoodca1 is now known as mrgoodcat | ||
| jrwren | good morning! | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | party | 12:40 |
| mrgoodcat | dance | 12:50 |
| === dzho_ is now known as dzho | ||
| cmaloney | party party | 13:18 |
| rick_h_ | who says I'm not dancing? | 13:19 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: missed you at CHC last night, lots of chromebook conversations we missed you at | 13:20 |
| havenstance | n/M / m | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | ummm, no? | 13:20 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: what sort of conversation? the condescending kind i'd rather miss or real constructive conversation? | 13:24 |
| mrgoodcat | i've taken a lot of shit over the past 5 days or so for using a chromebook for whatever reason | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: oh quite constructive | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | one guy bought one for his wife and is liking it | 13:25 |
| mrgoodcat | ah | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | and was asking about people editing choices, ssh or web ides | 13:25 |
| mrgoodcat | what one? | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | running ubuntu/dual booting, etc | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | not sure | 13:25 |
| mrgoodcat | wish i was there | 13:25 |
| mrgoodcat | i have family in from texas and florida this week | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | ah, gotcha | 13:26 |
| mrgoodcat | if the screen was better i'd have no complaints about the chromebook | 13:26 |
| brousch | pixel! | 13:26 |
| mrgoodcat | I used to hate on the keyboard but i've gotten used to it | 13:27 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i want a pixel. want to donate to my pixel fund? | 13:27 |
| brousch | Chromebooks are perfect for a large segment of the population. You cannot argue against that | 13:27 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: I was hoping you had one laying around I could have | 13:27 |
| mrgoodcat | i just spent 500$ on my mountainbike though so i'm a bit short on disposable cash | 13:27 |
| jrwren | do you use a chromebook and run chromeos? | 13:31 |
| mrgoodcat | yes and yes/no | 13:35 |
| mrgoodcat | i dual boot ubuntu | 13:35 |
| mrgoodcat | which i use for work and anything requiring a "real" OS | 13:35 |
| mrgoodcat | but i use chromeos a lot at home for pleasure and such | 13:35 |
| mrgoodcat | i used to use the web IDEs available for chrome but eventually i wanted my CLI back | 13:36 |
| mrgoodcat | i tried to ssh to a dev server for a while but SSH is cumbersome sometimes. local dev is the preferred option | 13:36 |
| mrgoodcat | so then i tried crouton, which worked great for a while | 13:36 |
| mrgoodcat | but then i needed to use lxc | 13:37 |
| mrgoodcat | and crouton isn't advanced enough to support the more advanced kernel options | 13:37 |
| mrgoodcat | so i had to go to chrubuntu | 13:37 |
| rick_h_ | can you map the search (caps lock) to control, that's the important question | 13:37 |
| mrgoodcat | when i upgraded to 14.04 the chrubuntu script broke, so i went with a flat install which works great | 13:37 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: yes you can | 13:37 |
| rick_h_ | if you can do that maybe my next machine should be a pixel or pixel2 | 13:38 |
| mrgoodcat | my "search" is control and control is <super> | 13:38 |
| brousch | rick_h_: pixel only has 4GB of RAM | 13:38 |
| rick_h_ | oh, no meta key? my window manager cringes in fear | 13:38 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: what meta key do you speak of? <alt>? | 13:38 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: meh, I don't recall the last time my laptop went over 4 | 13:38 |
| mrgoodcat | i have an <alt> key | 13:38 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: windows key, meta-4 I think, it's the basis for all my window manager controls | 13:39 |
| rick_h_ | tiling layouts, splits, etc | 13:39 |
| mrgoodcat | the "search" key is the meta key | 13:39 |
| mrgoodcat | by default | 13:39 |
| * rick_h_ looks at the picture | 13:42 | |
| rick_h_ | I see, giant ctrl and alt keys | 13:42 |
| mrgoodcat | yup | 13:44 |
| mrgoodcat | huge | 13:44 |
| rick_h_ | I'm trying to make myself use the air and trying to force myself to like it so I can justify getting the 13" version and moving on | 13:45 |
| jrwren | i don't think I could do chromeos, but maybe I'll try someday. I'll claim its mrgoodcat fault | 13:45 |
| mrgoodcat | jrwren: i'll sell you my c720p if i get a pixel | 13:46 |
| jrwren | cheap? | 13:46 |
| mrgoodcat | it was 200$ new so yea super cheap | 13:46 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 13:46 |
| jrwren | cool | 13:46 |
| mrgoodcat | IF i get a pixel | 13:46 |
| jrwren | IFF | 13:46 |
| mrgoodcat | i just don't have the cash right now | 13:46 |
| jrwren | remember maths. IFF means if and only if | 13:46 |
| mrgoodcat | no just IF. because i might get some other new version or an air or something | 13:47 |
| mrgoodcat | in which case i'd still not need this | 13:47 |
| jrwren | YAY | 14:02 |
| jrwren | just if! | 14:02 |
| cmaloney | The keyboard layout on the Chrome is what keeps me away. | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | I used Mac keyboards enough with Ubuntu to know that I like having my keyboard mapping match what the computer is expecting. :) | 14:17 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: the keyboard really doesn't bother me on mine | 14:18 |
| mrgoodcat | just miss f keys | 14:19 |
| mrgoodcat | i only have 1-10 | 14:19 |
| jrwren | wtf?!? | 14:19 |
| mrgoodcat | there are only 10 f keys on the c720 | 14:20 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, that's a dealbreaker. :) | 14:20 |
| cmaloney | I use my Fn keys. | 14:20 |
| mrgoodcat | really? not for me | 14:21 |
| jrwren | oh, i almost never use F keys | 14:21 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm only missing 11 and 12 | 14:21 |
| jrwren | 'cept volume controls on a mac | 14:21 |
| jrwren | e.g. this conversation had me notice the play/pause button on my KB | 14:21 |
| jrwren | now I'll use that too. | 14:21 |
| mrgoodcat | you can map the chrome f keys to do what the pictures say | 14:21 |
| jrwren | I had been changing windows and pressing pause until now | 14:21 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: get a gaming mouse with 12 buttons. map them to f keys | 14:22 |
| mathomastech | cmaloney: A suggestions for you. I've remapped my caps lock key (seach on most chromebooks) to cmd+alt+ctl+shift. Then map caps+1 = F1, caps+2 = F2, etc etc. That caps combo is unique so it never runs into issues with application specific shortcuts. | 14:25 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: How about no. :) | 14:30 |
| mrgoodcat | :) | 14:30 |
| cmaloney | mathomastech: How does one get to the ttys under that convoluted scheme? :) | 14:31 |
| * cmaloney uses those at least once a week. | 14:31 | |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: i can get to my ttys | 14:32 |
| mrgoodcat | i still have 10 fkeys | 14:32 |
| mrgoodcat | and ctrl and alt | 14:32 |
| mrgoodcat | not sure why mathomastech did that weird remap. since the media keys are just f keys | 14:32 |
| mathomastech | cmaloney. No idea. I don't actually use that combo for F keys (I actually have functions keys). I use the combo for other custom shortcuts | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I use F11 for making things fullscreen. | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | Though I could just use the menu for that. | 14:33 |
| * cmaloney also uses Blender from time to time. :) | 14:33 | |
| * cmaloney is also about finished with that "Debt, the first 5,000 years book. | 14:34 | |
| mathomastech | mrgoodcat: Because at heart, I love being weird :) I hate the caps lock key, so I decided to make it useful by having my own custom shortcut modifier. | 14:34 |
| mrgoodcat | fair i guess | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | That book is the closest I have seen to taking the red pill regarding the financial crisis we're currently facing. | 14:35 |
| mathomastech | Just like i've remapped F1 to be something useful (dropdown terminal) rather than the always invasive help menu. | 14:35 |
| mrgoodcat | guake++ | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | blergh | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | have never liked guake | 14:36 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't use it anymore | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | tiling window manager takes care of all my terminal needs now | 14:45 |
| jrwren | ok... i want to use this method to add members to built in types http://blog.hakril.net/articles/1-understanding-python-by-breaking-it---lvl-2.html?utm_source=Python+Weekly+Newsletter&utm_campaign=4abbdd6e2e-Python_Weekly_Issue_140_May_22_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9e26887fc5-4abbdd6e2e-306809429 | 16:09 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/v831rz - Understanding Python by breaking it - Lvl 2 - Hakril's blog | 16:09 |
| greg-g | people still listen to Slipknot? | 16:19 |
| greg-g | also, retired rich Sonoma county couples in full road biking getup (spandex etc) are hilarious | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: saw petaluma on the map and jealous of where you're at. Right around all my fav wine stuff | 16:31 |
| rick_h_ | been spending a ton of time going through google maps checking locations and activities and such | 16:31 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:32 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: What's wrong with Slipknot? | 16:32 |
| greg-g | too bad we only have one bottle of wine in the house, an old white that I'll never drink (I only really drink red) | 16:33 |
| cmaloney | Other than I don't have any of their albums nor do I have any plans to pick them up in the near future | 16:33 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: too juvenile | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | yea, we're a red house as well | 16:33 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Bah. :) | 16:34 |
| cmaloney | metal has always been retrograde in some fashion. | 16:34 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: I listened to/had a slipknot album in hiigh school during my angsty years too, but... just thought they might have retired by now :) | 16:34 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: No, but they did let Joey Jordinson go. | 16:34 |
| * greg-g doesn't know the names | 16:34 | |
| cmaloney | Which I equate in the same vein as letting Mike Portnoy go from Dream Theater. | 16:34 |
| cmaloney | Joey was teh drummer | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | FOunding member, voice of the band. Etc. | 16:35 |
| cmaloney | nd yeah, outside of Cory Taylor (only because of the insufferable Stone Sour) and Joey I couldn't pick any of them out of a lineup. | 16:36 |
| greg-g | oh yeah, that's fair | 16:37 |
| cmaloney | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U7TMqLh70z8/U34m2tzbjGI/AAAAAAAADTI/Zbr5vxxsapQ/s756-no/2014+-+1 | 16:40 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/AGqfvq - image/jpeg | 16:40 |
| cmaloney | sometimes adult me wishes he could be kid me again. | 16:40 |
| cmaloney | ;) | 16:40 |
| greg-g | don't we all | 16:41 |
| * cmaloney says over and over "I will not pick up X-Wing Miniatures because it is just a money sink." | 16:41 | |
| greg-g | fucking assholes who go to coffee shops ansd watch fucking streaming movies on their ipads | 16:44 |
| greg-g | making me lag all to fuck | 16:44 |
| cmaloney | Open Wifi? | 16:46 |
| cmaloney | That's when to fire up Firesheep. :) | 16:46 |
| greg-g | WPA | 16:47 |
| cmaloney | Dammit | 16:48 |
| greg-g | "Firesheep is free, open source, and is available now for Mac OS X and Windows. Linux support is on the way." | 16:49 |
| greg-g | alright changing venues | 16:51 |
| greg-g | fuck this | 16:51 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: That's horseshit. | 16:51 |
| jrwren | two years of using this laptop and I never used the pause/play kb button until today. | 17:08 |
| jrwren | thanks guys! | 17:08 |
| jrwren | I've used it like dozen+ times already | 17:08 |
| greg-g | I hate to say it, but I'm at a starbucks now | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: welcome to the club, sometimes when there's no other options | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: you take what you can get | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | and I do like their soy lattes :/ | 17:14 |
| mrgoodcat | greg-g: starbux has good wifi | 17:14 |
| greg-g | I just got an iced coffee | 17:14 |
| jrwren | openwifi - ssh home and tunnel all | 17:14 |
| greg-g | but effing Oprah co-branding? | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | yea, the one by us has the google branded wifi (business class uverse) which was fast | 17:14 |
| jrwren | SBUX shares MUST GO UP! | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:14 |
| greg-g | oh right, I need to go setup my vpn again | 17:15 |
| jrwren | SBUX competition is McDonalds. | 17:15 |
| mrgoodcat | for wifi? | 17:15 |
| jrwren | no, for dollars | 17:15 |
| mrgoodcat | any way to figure out which starbux has google wifi? | 17:16 |
| jrwren | you really think it will be faster than ATT? | 17:19 |
| greg-g | and done (vpn'ing now) | 17:19 |
| jrwren | its just business class uverse. | 17:20 |
| jrwren | not like it is google's ISP | 17:20 |
| mrgoodcat | jrwren: they say up to 10x speedup. but that's probably mostly marketing crap | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: so before my starbucks had a crappy 3mb line through att | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | google moved it up to a 50 down 15 up connection | 17:22 |
| rick_h_ | I think they're just subsidizing a bigger att pipe | 17:22 |
| rick_h_ | it still shows as an att connection | 17:22 |
| jrwren | nice! | 17:22 |
| jrwren | yeah, I'd prefer that SBUX | 17:23 |
| greg-g | jrwren: as a stock holder, can you complain that they gave me a weak ass plastic plate intead of a real one? it just feels so cheap. | 17:23 |
| cmaloney | hah | 17:23 |
| jrwren | greg-g: i'm not. but my sister and wife are. | 17:23 |
| greg-g | please be my proxy proxy | 17:23 |
| jrwren | why not buy a share yourself and bring it up at the annual shareholders meeting? | 17:23 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:24 |
| rick_h_ | good call! | 17:24 |
| jrwren | plus, when you visit seatle for the ASM, its technically a business trip and you can expense it. | 17:24 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: what's the state of the steam box and controller stuff? Can I buy one soon? | 17:26 |
| jcastro | controller isn't out until the fall | 17:27 |
| jcastro | until then you need an xbox controller + dongle | 17:27 |
| rick_h_ | my wife is lamenting that we never got a wii and I'd rather steam box it than get a ps4 or xbox1 | 17:27 |
| jcastro | which can be found cheap used everywhere | 17:27 |
| jcastro | oh, for casual games? | 17:27 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 17:27 |
| jcastro | consider a fireTV (dead serious) | 17:27 |
| cmaloney | what sort of casual games? | 17:27 |
| jcastro | it has casual support and gamepad support | 17:27 |
| jcastro | it's pretty non-crappy | 17:27 |
| rick_h_ | ugh, but I hate amazon not putting their movies on android and don't want to support them and I hear the controller is crappy | 17:27 |
| jrwren | a wii, like old wii? | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 17:28 |
| jrwren | just get one off craigslist. they are CHEAP | 17:28 |
| jcastro | the fire can use xbox controllers | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea she always wanted a wii, but I'd like something that's supported and I might play a game/two on a steambox | 17:28 |
| jcastro | their movies are on android, just their android, heh | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea, that doesn't count | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | not my N10 :( | 17:28 |
| jcastro | well, most of the DRM video stuff is crap, you're always going to be doomed in one way or another | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | the steambox stuff seems perfect after cmaloney's demo and talk t MUG | 17:28 |
| jcastro | you won't have movies or netflix on it though | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've got roku's for that stuf | 17:29 |
| jcastro | ah ok | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | I've got a roku 3 and a chromecast on every tv in the house | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | (and my second monitor in my office) | 17:29 |
| jrwren | hehe @ every tv in the house. | 17:29 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: May want to set up a steam account on your Linux machine and browse the available games | 17:30 |
| jrwren | we have 1 tv at our house. | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: heh, well 2 | 17:30 |
| brousch | jrwren: Us too | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | we've got one in the guest room we actually use, and one in a downstairs living room we never use | 17:30 |
| cmaloney | there's a few "casual" games there but most of them are decidedly not "casual" | 17:30 |
| brousch | 1 TV total, 1 tablet and 1 laptop per family member | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, I've got steam on ubuntu and other than 4k issues I've got a couple of games I'd play | 17:30 |
| cmaloney | ie: Wii bowling isn't showing up on Steam. :) | 17:30 |
| jrwren | brousch: and 5 phones each :) | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: lol | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | there was an ouya article recently that got me interested in causual games for the house | 17:31 |
| brousch | So get an ouya! | 17:31 |
| mrgoodcat | ouya! | 17:31 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, out of curiosity, why chromecast when you have dedicated rokus with remotes? | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: because roku can't do google content which is on my N10 | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: and my N10 can't do content I bought on AMZ on my rokus | 17:32 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, agree with cmaloney, the casual games on steam are for like, nerds, not normal people | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: so I'm stuck in two worlds pissed at everyone | 17:32 |
| jcastro | wait | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | http://r.bmark.us/u/44647f7418126f | 17:32 |
| jcastro | you buy content instead of rent? | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | yes, I have a 4yr old | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | by week two...it's paid for itself | 17:32 |
| jcastro | oh, that sucks | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | even with tv days only be fri/sat/sun | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | but when we go 'camping' I hook the N10 up to the tv and play offline movies | 17:32 |
| jcastro | I mean, I dont have my own so when they come over it's like, netflix kids, play, and walk away | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but they don't have a lot of content, a TON of disney, etc | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | and that's streaming which we're not always able to do | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | offline ftw sometimes | 17:33 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I'm afan of buying content when I can. | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | and for $35, the chromecast is an impulse buy | 17:33 |
| cmaloney | streaming is for suckers. :) | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, ouya, wii on ebay, or something | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | ok, well good to know. Shame that steam box controller stuff is so far out | 17:34 |
| cmaloney | I'm a little lukewarm on the Ouya. | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | didn't they annouce it some 6+ months ago? | 17:34 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Here's a thought... | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, that article hit the sweet spot I think though | 17:34 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: i read that same article | 17:34 |
| jcastro | the ouya is DOA | 17:34 |
| jcastro | it's done | 17:35 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: didn't it make you want to go get one? | 17:35 |
| * rick_h_ checks if it's from someone that works for them :P | 17:35 | |
| jcastro | the firetv can do about everything the ouya can and has AAA content, they're doomed | 17:35 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: yea it did | 17:35 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, in general steam is for gamers, casual games are far and few between unfortunately | 17:35 |
| cmaloney | http://www.amazon.com/Atari-Flashback-2-Plug-Play/dp/B00093DHIK | 17:35 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/cQ2k - Amazon.com: Atari Flashback 2+ Plug-in-Play: Video Games | 17:35 |
| jcastro | like, tetris, there's no tetris in steam | 17:35 |
| jcastro | but it's like $2 on the firetv | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: so it's basically android games available in their store? | 17:36 |
| jcastro | yeah, but since they have their own lame app store | 17:36 |
| jcastro | the games need to be submitted by the devs specifically to amazon | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: heh, I like to causual blow up zombies in left4dead :) | 17:36 |
| jcastro | which means that it's not as many, but on the flip side it's not a bunch of garbage like the play store either | 17:37 |
| mrgoodcat | i liked how that article made the ouya sound | 17:37 |
| mrgoodcat | but idk if it was 100$ worth of like | 17:37 |
| jcastro | I have one if you want to mess with it, though the gas money to get down here is probably more than the firetv, heh | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | lol yea | 17:37 |
| cmaloney | pthhhpt. | 17:37 |
| mrgoodcat | lol where is "down here"? | 17:37 |
| brousch | Does fireTV have custom controllers like ouya? | 17:37 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, used wii is the way to go, there's tons of them out there | 17:37 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I'd go with a used Wii in most circumstances. | 17:38 |
| jcastro | brousch, it has an xbox-like controller that you can buy with it, or it can use xbox controllers with a dongle | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | yea, aren't some of the games losing their back end servers and such though? | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | I worry that it was so 'internet connected' that it'll be a brick | 17:38 |
| cmaloney | save for "I only have HDMI ports on the back of my TV" | 17:38 |
| brousch | You have to code for the controllers with ouya. You can't just take any old Android game and slap it on there | 17:38 |
| jcastro | when I say wii I mean whatever the newest wii is | 17:38 |
| jcastro | not the first wii | 17:38 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Assume there's no Online play for the Wii | 17:38 |
| cmaloney | The WiiU is a joke. | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, that kind of sucks | 17:38 |
| cmaloney | and this is coming from a Wii owner. | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | amz should be sending me a firetv as a prime member that spends too much $$ on their crap, including their movies/etc on my roku boxes | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 17:39 |
| cmaloney | heh | 17:39 |
| jrwren | what is wrong with WiiU? it looks nice. | 17:40 |
| mrgoodcat | i know at least one person very happy with his wiiu | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | ok, guess I'll have to think more on it. I'm darn curious to try out a steambox though. Without the work of installing/etc. Just plug-n-play | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | well, plug-login-play | 17:40 |
| jrwren | i stills say ebay or CL an old Wii, buy used games for it - they are cheap and will make your wife happy | 17:40 |
| brousch | Yes, plenty of games for the child too. All of the LEGO games | 17:41 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, a nuc would be a nice steambox | 17:41 |
| cmaloney | The problem I have with the WiiU is that NIntendo is once again releasing the same shit they released for the GC and Wii | 17:41 |
| jcastro | it'd be portable too | 17:41 |
| brousch | Although they look much better on PS3 | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: +1 | 17:41 |
| cmaloney | just with another controller in the mix. | 17:41 |
| jrwren | how much does a NUC cost? | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: well fleshed out around $500 | 17:41 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, witcher2 is out for linux, but it needs a more powerful card than an intel | 17:41 |
| jcastro | jrwren, depends, they come in kits too | 17:41 |
| jcastro | as low as 300, as high as 700 | 17:42 |
| jrwren | I know you can buy an ipad mini + apple TV for WELL under that, and place nice games on your TV | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: saw that, I need to fire up steam again sometime on my desktop | 17:42 |
| jcastro | everyone should buy it, it's four dollars | 17:42 |
| jcastro | and a AAA game | 17:42 |
| jcastro | show them we exist, etc. | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: when I get around to stop working in time to play a game before bed | 17:42 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, there's lots of cool games for Linux | 17:43 |
| jrwren | $229 ipadmini + $99 appletv => $328 - still cheaper than a NUC + cables :p | 17:43 |
| cmaloney | There's a few more casual games on there though. | 17:43 |
| jrwren | LOTS more casual games on ios | 17:43 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: We'll need to have a gaming party or something | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | I think the whole amz vs google play thing sucks, I'm never going back to iAnything | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: definitely | 17:44 |
| cmaloney | and anyone else in here that's hopped on the gaming discussion. :) | 17:44 |
| jcastro | jrwren, your solution to rick's lockin problem is even worse lockin? | 17:44 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: it's iLocks. | 17:44 |
| jrwren | lockin problem? | 17:44 |
| jrwren | EVERYTHING in the game industry is lockin. If you don't want lockin, don't play video games. | 17:45 |
| jcastro | he was talking about videos | 17:46 |
| greg-g | weird, I connect with my vpn and the starbucks wifi kicks me off in 5 minutes, reconnect plain style and I'm fine | 17:46 |
| brousch | There are games on F-Droid | 17:46 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, I'll show you how to truly avoid lockin with plex dude | 17:46 |
| jrwren | greg-g: what kind of VPN? | 17:47 |
| greg-g | uhhh, cisco compat with my work? | 17:48 |
| greg-g | s/with/via/ | 17:48 |
| jrwren | dunno :( | 17:49 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea, all that seems cool but I just don't have the time to maintain/build stuff any more. I'm a dumb user | 17:52 |
| jcastro | yeah I hear ya | 17:52 |
| rick_h_ | I want to be a cool kid and all, but too grown up | 17:52 |
| greg-g | 'tis why I went with a synology nas :/ | 17:53 |
| jrwren | excuses! | 17:53 |
| jrwren | if it were important to you, you would do it! | 17:53 |
| greg-g | Rowan trumps * | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: +1 | 17:53 |
| jrwren | build it with rowan :p | 17:53 |
| jcastro | as stupid as the online services are, I love that it's still 50x better than how the TV and cable companies want you to do things | 17:53 |
| jrwren | ^^ yup | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | at some point you've got more $$ than free time, hello lawn mower service, hello camper dealer doing my maintenance | 17:54 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, yeah sucks about the split brain on your video though | 17:54 |
| jcastro | I also have a lawn service, etc. | 17:54 |
| greg-g | jrwren: he doesn't do much of that 'building' quite yet, mostly the 'destroying part ;) | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea, I really wish amz would have their app for all android and then I'd just use them | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: but because they don't I've started to go with pure google, at least a chromecast is $35 vs $99 for the roku with amz | 17:55 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: hah +1 | 17:55 |
| greg-g | also, take back the 'no vpn works fine' here, this AP is just dropping every now ad then, too | 17:55 |
| jcastro | yeah at least you get HDMI CEC with the chromecast so you're not fuddling with input garbage all day | 17:55 |
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| jrwren | greg-g: yeah, Lilly is finally reading at a good level, so she can help with a lot more things. | 18:02 |
| mrgoodcat | greg-g: you on the attwifi or google? just to satisfy my curiosity | 18:32 |
| mrgoodcat | .stock noc | 18:33 |
| bookiebot | Northrop Grumman - $118.604 +0.344 (+0.29%) H:$118.89 L:$118.01 O:$118.27 Volume:493208 [2:18pm] | 18:33 |
| greg-g | mrgoodcat: att | 18:33 |
| jrwren | fun bot. | 18:34 |
| jrwren | .stock sbux | 18:35 |
| bookiebot | Starbucks Corpora - $71.65 +1.25 (+1.78%) H:$71.77 L:$70.30 O:$70.36 Volume:2469506 [2:20pm] | 18:35 |
| jrwren | .stock mcd | 18:35 |
| bookiebot | McDonald's Corpor - $102.51 -0.05 (-0.05%) H:$102.98 L:$102.23 O:$102.65 Volume:1435242 [2:20pm] | 18:35 |
| greg-g | .stock wmf | 18:35 |
| mrgoodcat | you have to know the symbol though. It doesn't do any closest match or anything | 18:36 |
| greg-g | oh right, we're a nonprofit that cares about the world, not money | 18:36 |
| greg-g | :P | 18:36 |
| mrgoodcat | oh lol i was about to check the debug console to figure out what went wrong | 18:36 |
| greg-g | I'm just a troll :) | 18:36 |
| mrgoodcat | HLO is high low open for the current day | 18:37 |
| mrgoodcat | time is the time of the last trade | 18:37 |
| brousch | greg-g: How can we measure your org's worth if it does not have a stock price?! | 18:38 |
| greg-g | brousch: :P | 18:38 |
| brousch | Obviously it is worthless | 18:38 |
| greg-g | there have been attempts, we're in the tens of billions | 18:38 |
| mrgoodcat | must be | 18:38 |
| brousch | Maybe we could measure it by the losses incurred by your commercial competitors. How is the encyclopedia business these days? | 18:39 |
| greg-g | none-existent | 18:39 |
| greg-g | http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-much-is-wikipedia-worth-704865/?no-ist | 18:40 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/fzGZTR - How Much is Wikipedia Worth? | Smart News | Smithsonian | 18:40 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: that's probably not even too bad of an estimate | 18:41 |
| mrgoodcat | low i'd guess though | 18:41 |
| greg-g | economists did what you're asking, see above | 18:42 |
| mrgoodcat | yea just read that | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | .stock alu | 19:02 |
| bookiebot | Alcatel-Lucent Co - $3.82 -0.07 (-1.80%) H:$3.89 L:$3.81 O:$3.88 Volume:9572030 [2:47pm] | 19:02 |
| cmaloney | That surprises me. | 19:02 |
| jrwren | why? they have been in toilet for years. | 19:06 |
| jrwren | i paid $50/share for that dud. | 19:06 |
| jrwren | .stock MMLP | 19:06 |
| bookiebot | Martin Midstream - $40.02 -0.02 (-0.05%) H:$40.29 L:$39.96 O:$40.00 Volume:45410 [2:51pm] | 19:06 |
| cmaloney | Im surprised they're not still floating around $1 | 19:06 |
| jrwren | whoa! good deal. | 19:06 |
| cmaloney | Which is where it was when I left. | 19:06 |
| cmaloney | waf: You still on track to head overseas? | 19:08 |
| cmaloney | seems the shit is hitting the fan over there politically. | 19:08 |
| cmaloney | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27529563 | 19:10 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ldbOfv - BBC News - Questions remain about Thai army's sudden takeover | 19:10 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs | 23:42 |
| rick_h_ | the clear? | 23:45 |
| cmaloney | Any of them. | 23:45 |
| cmaloney | Looks interesting. | 23:45 |
| cmaloney | https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,compact&pid=fc660ceg <- This also looks way expensive. :) | 23:46 |
| cmaloney | But... switchable CTRL / Caps Lock | 23:47 |
| rick_h_ | it's the topre switches | 23:48 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I've never used those. | 23:48 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I can't get over the price tag | 23:48 |
| rick_h_ | it's the one keyboard switch I've not tried due to price | 23:48 |
| rick_h_ | I did pick up one of the thinkpad keyboards and used that this last week+ with the trackpoint on it | 23:49 |
| rick_h_ | but I do start to get wrist pain these days when on the desktop. I end up back on my kenesis like greg-g | 23:49 |
| cmaloney | Ugh | 23:50 |
| rick_h_ | yea, kind of bummed | 23:51 |
| rick_h_ | but bound to happen I guess | 23:51 |
| rick_h_ | that thinkpad keyboard makes an awesome small 'server' keyboard though | 23:51 |
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