[00:00] <TJ-> mitas: "live" ? You mean "lsblk" was actually run from the problem installation itself?
[00:00] <mitas> TJ, hard to blelieve right? Yes, it was and I can repeat it, I can pastebin the output of mount for you if you'd like to see that.
[00:01] <TJ-> mitas: if so, there's something seriously wrong if "lsblk" can't see the mount points for "/"  "/var/ "/opt/" "/tmp/" and so on
[00:01] <TJ-> mitas: How about pastebin-ing the output of "cat /proc/mounts"
[00:01] <mitas> TJ, sure will do
[00:01] <daftykins> !skype | nevyn
[00:02] <daftykins> er hmm ok sorry that bot trigger was useless
[00:02] <mitas> TJ, here you are: (/cat/proc/mounts): http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499540/
[00:04] <TJ-> mitas: Well, the commonality affecting "lsblk" is they're all BTRFS
[00:06] <mitas> TJ, yes this is a new install and I went with new techniques all the way, swayed by the snapshot feature of btrfs and the flexible sizing (even merging multiple physical volumes!) to one partition of LVM...
[00:07] <TJ-> mitas: Hmmmm... researching potential issues here, bear with me
[00:09] <mitas> TJ, the funny thing is, just before my /home cloning attempt, everything ran just fine. The only thing that was missing was a /home on my RAID1 array for extra safety, contained within a LV for expandibility.
[00:09] <TJ-> mitas: just in case there's something unusual in permissions, do you get different output using "sudo lsblk" ?
[00:10] <mitas> TJ, let's see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499565/
[00:10] <TJ-> mitas: That's a no :(
[00:11] <mitas> TJ, indeed, no difference in output as far as I can see.
[00:13] <thisguy22> Hello
[00:13]  * thisguy22 says hello
[00:13]  * thisguy22 rubs his belly
[00:14] <daftykins> thisguy22: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[00:16] <mitas> TJ, I still have all my important files on a backup disk and I did not create anything worthwhile yet that after my shiny 14.04 install, so atm I'm just freewheeling and trying out the new possiblities of Trusty and LVM in general. This is my first setup using LVM and btrfs.
[00:16] <TJ-> mitas: going back to the "ls -l /" you provided - I'm concerned that the number of blocks in use by "/home/" is nowhere near the same as that for "/home2/" - if you did a clone copy they should be identical
[00:21] <mitas> TJ, yes, those different file sizes are worrying, but more worrying still is that I could not recover from that by editing my /etc/fstab so that my original /home would be mounted again.. After a reboot, that should restore my original starting position, except it didn't...
[00:22] <javanic> so..... anyone know if anything in bios can stop ubuntu from running??
[00:23] <trndr> javanic, do you get to bios?
[00:23] <javanic> trndr: I can get into bios but that
[00:23] <daftykins> javanic: EFI system?
[00:23] <javanic> is it.. won't even boot from dvd
[00:24] <mitas> TJ, I may have to go for a total reinstall. Even though that would take a lot of time, it *is* an automated process after the entry of the obligatory keyboard selection and user creation. I am however rather curious as to what might have caused this fail, so that a) I can avoid it, b) I can document it, so that fellow installers won't fall into the same trap...
[00:24] <javanic> daftykins: what is efi system?
[00:24] <TJ-> mitas: I agree; something unusual has certainly occurred.
[00:25] <daftykins> !uefi | javanic
[00:27] <javanic> daftykins, I will try that! thanks :)
[00:28] <mitas> TJ, I think my cp command was not complete enough somehow, though I can't yet put my finger on it, as to what my error was: "sudo cp -pR (keep permissions and ownership, Recursive) /home/* /home2" <= dotfiles should be affected by this command so they should get copied over without fail, except maybe a few session-specific locked files. Even so, I would expect an error message if that were the case
[00:29] <daftykins> mitas: i think i just realised what's going on
[00:29] <mitas> daftykins, please enlighten me :-)
[00:29] <daftykins> mitas: you can't use fstab to refer to a different home, because you already created it on the same / filesystem
[00:30] <daftykins> mitas: the only thing you can use fstab for is other partitions, i think
[00:30] <daftykins> mitas: so in this case the only way to switch to /home2 is to rename /home to /nothome and then symlink /home to /home2
[00:30] <daftykins> or maybe i'm just too tired and should give up now :D
[00:32] <TJ-> mitas:  "cp -a $SRC $DEST" incorporates what you need I think, or use "rsync -a /$SRC/ /$DEST/"
[00:33] <mitas> daftykins, somehow, I think linux is flexible enough to remap the /home drive to another partition that has already  received all the files of the orginal /home. If I'm not mistaken, /etc/fstab is only read upon boot or when trying to mount a drive without including a specific mount point in the command.
[00:33] <daftykins> oh so you did copy it to another partition entirely?
[00:34] <daftykins> nevermind then, i'm definitely too tired to be helping further :) sorry
[00:35] <mitas> daftykins, no need to apologize, you did try to help and that's what counts for me. I have to hit the hay as well. Just bought a new house and I have to clean and change a lot there.
[00:36] <daftykins> mitas: ooh, congratulations! :)
[00:36] <mitas> TJ, thanks for all your help :-) I need to go to bed right now. I will perform a full reinstall.
[00:37] <mitas> daftykins, why thank you :-D Yes, I'm excited over the prospect of actually living there in a month or two from now.
[00:39] <mitas> Good night everyone (especially daftykins and TJ) , I'm going to sleep. It has been lovely.
[00:39] <daftykins> :) ta-ra
[01:00] <Aucdrone> how do i check how much free space is left on my persistent storage on a liveusb? df?
[01:12] <gre-> hello
[01:13] <gre-> id like to install ubuntu without any graphic interface, is it possible? (is it ubuntu server which i have to download for that?) actually its for a desktop use, i need i3 wm
[01:13] <daftykins> yeah install server instead
[01:13] <daftykins> why no graphics though?
[01:14] <gre-> with i3 wm i can get fullscreen with java games :p
[01:14] <gre-> and its lightweight
[01:14] <gre-> and faster about me
[01:14] <daftykins> !enter
[01:14] <daftykins> damn it ubottu
[01:15] <gre-> im on archlinux but its a bit difficult for me sometimes
[01:15] <gre-> so i have to go back to ubuntu i think
[01:15] <daftykins> server it is then
[01:15] <gre-> thx daftykins
[01:16] <gre-> daftykins: is server will detect automatically my graphic card for example?
[01:16] <gre-> you don't know?
[01:17] <daftykins> gre-: server doesn't care for graphics cards because it's pure CLI :)
[01:17] <gre-> i agree it was a stupid question
[01:17] <gre-> my fault, sorry
[01:24] <gre-> i read ubuntu server is better than arch server :o
[01:27] <trpmstr-> no shit is this an ubuntu channel with 1864 users?
[01:27] <trpmstr-> An NSA gated community. Lorde team and a gated community. Dutchie and the CIA and the whole trillions of trillions of trillions of trillions of dollars. And the GND which I made the first trillion for is still left unpaid. Poor us we are governed by the asshole George Bush. Making corrupt shit decisions for us. The split in taxes, the brackets, inequality in personal income revenue. George Bush
[01:27] <trpmstr-> paying themselves running away with the country's money. The GND should be paid off-- That money was more than quadrupled and blackbagged and deleted.
[01:27] <trpmstr-> It makes perfect sense to the truth im sure. Perfect innocent kid, strong, on the beat comes in makes 1 trillion dollars by opening a blank window. George Bush is in office at the CIA, his commandership, Brian K CIA decides to match him or beat him and make 500TR by taxing the NFL... The money is made. Trillions of trillions of trillions. Every cent accounted for-- Petty cash, FBI, CIA, Secret
[01:27] <trpmstr-> Service, NSA.. whatever... The US military. Where the money is going.... George Bush is the asshole. AND we're still in debt.
[01:27] <trpmstr-> Poor the American citizen. Poor the SSA and the IRS. And it was still George Bush's shit doings and decisions.
[01:27] <trpmstr-> Only makes cents.
[01:27] <unopaste> trpmstr- you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:27] <daftykins> gre-: that's inappropriate conversation for this channel
[01:27] <daftykins> trpmstr-: bad luck :)
[01:28] <daftykins> IdleOne: troll o'clock sir
[01:28] <daftykins> ah all good
[01:29] <trpmstr-> idleone please have mercy
[01:29] <trpmstr-> im a good guy
[01:29] <Flannel> trpmstr-: This channel is for technical support, please keep offtopic stuff out of here, thanks.
[01:29] <trpmstr-> oh
[01:29] <trpmstr-> i tried linux before
[01:30] <Cheaterman> Bliblibilbli #ubuntu ^__^ anyone needs help?
[01:30] <trpmstr-> "whats your distribution of choice"
[01:30] <trpmstr-> xpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[01:30] <trpmstr-> i got netstat too
[01:30] <Cheaterman> trpmstr-: careful, if you keep going I'm sure Flannel won't be pleased ^^
[01:30] <elid> Hey, can you guys help me? I installed 13.10, and now Ubuntu doesn't seem to realise that there is an update out. Software Updater says my computer is up to date, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and apt-get dist-upgrade have no significant  change. Ideas?
[01:31] <Cheaterman> elid: Is your computer connected to the internet?
[01:31] <daftykins> elid: none of those commands update version. run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[01:31] <trpmstr-> disconnected in a second
[01:31] <elid> Cheateramman: Yes.
[01:31] <Cheaterman> Oh daftykins dist-upgrade doesn't work anymore?
[01:31] <elid> daftykins: Will try
[01:31] <daftykins> dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade version.
[01:31] <minimec> elid: 'sudo update-manager -d' ?
[01:31] <Cheaterman> Allright, it used to I believe tho
[01:31] <abak> Hi everyone, I updated yesterday from 13.10 to 14.04, what is the best place to report issues with the new release, more specifically issues with duplicity?
[01:31] <daftykins> minimec: do not advise that.
[01:32] <theorem> hey all, I am running into a problem with my ~/cache/upstartgnome-session.log file.  it's currently 728G and growing.
[01:32] <Flannel> Cheaterman: It will (did and still will) if you do other stuff beforehand, but it never would on its own.
[01:32] <Cheaterman> I upgraded a Dapsy to Gutsy using dist-upgrade iirc
[01:32] <daftykins> no, you definitely didn't :)
[01:32] <daftykins> unless you hand-edited sources.list first
[01:32] <Cheaterman> Flannel: For information, what is the other stuff you mention?
[01:33] <Cheaterman> daftykins: Indeed! forgot that point
[01:33] <Flannel> Cheaterman: changing your repositories, etc.
[01:33] <minimec> elid: daftykins: So would you know an answer to his question?
[01:33] <Cheaterman> Alrighty, I remember indeed changing the version name in sources.list
[01:33] <Flannel> Cheaterman: dist-upgrade does all that (and more), automagically.
[01:33] <Flannel> er, do-release-upgrade
[01:33] <Cheaterman> Got it :)
[01:33] <Flannel> now you've got me all crossed up.
[01:33] <daftykins> minimec: other than the one i already gave, you mean?
[01:33] <Cheaterman> Sorry ^^
[01:33] <trpmstr-> i made a program in c once its called acai berry
[01:33] <gre-> daftykins: apparently it also exist an "alternate ubuntu"
[01:33] <GossipGirl> cool
[01:34] <daftykins> trpmstr-: you have been warned, cease the off topic chat.
[01:34] <trpmstr-> its like exec
[01:34] <Cheaterman> Do you know how long has do-release-upgrade been out
[01:34] <trpmstr-> ok
[01:34] <trpmstr-> sorry
[01:34] <daftykins> !alternate | gre-
[01:34] <daftykins> gre-: not anymore :)
[01:34] <gre-> ah
[01:34] <gre-> so for a minimalist installation of ubuntu, ubuntu-server is the only way?
[01:34] <gre-> ok
[01:35] <daftykins> yes
[01:35] <Cheaterman> Because I don't remember that script being quoted in the docs back then ^^
[01:35] <trpmstr-> fine its really like the sims. get the port its for linux
[01:35] <daftykins> gre-: that's why we had the conversation we did earlier ;)
[01:35] <Cheaterman> I left Ubuntu at Feisty more or less, and now I'm installing it for customers so I need to be uptodate on how to support it
[01:35] <Flannel> Cheaterman: it was first around for 7.10 to 8.04
[01:35] <Cheaterman> Okay gutsy, right after I left
[01:35] <Cheaterman> Thanks
[01:35] <gre-> english isn't my native language, thats why sometimes i ask twice :P
[01:35] <Artemis3> gre- no, there is the minimal.iso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:35] <minimec> daftykins: ... and 'they' always told us to use to update-manager... ;)
[01:36] <daftykins> minimec: i fail to see the relevance of your highlights
[01:36] <gre-> Artemis3: i need to boot it on a usb stick
[01:36] <Cheaterman> What are the major differences between ubuntu-server and debian?
[01:37] <holstein> Cheaterman: debian is upstream
[01:37] <gre-> "minimal CD"
[01:37] <Artemis3> gre-, you can dd the iso into usb
[01:37] <Artemis3> gre-, don't mind its a hybrid iso it works
[01:37] <abak> anyone?
[01:37] <Cheaterman> holstein: You mean more uptodate?
[01:37] <istvanchung> Does anyone know what the default emacs faces installed with emacs-nox are?
[01:37] <holstein> Cheaterman: one of the similarities between them is detailed wiki pages
[01:38] <daftykins> abak: you're going to have to elaborate
[01:38] <holstein> !server
[01:38] <holstein> !debian
[01:38] <minimec> daftykins: ... and I don't see your problem.
[01:38] <holstein> Cheaterman: i do *not* mean more up to date
[01:38] <gre-> ok ty
[01:38] <Cheaterman> Oh thanks holstein I didn't know the "ubuntu - what is debian" page existed
[01:38] <daftykins> minimec: please stop highlighting me :)
[01:38] <holstein> !bug abak
[01:38] <Cheaterman> holstein: then what does "upstream" mean in this case?
[01:38] <holstein> !bug | abak
[01:39] <minimec> ok ;)
[01:39] <Bashing-om> gre-: more: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Minimal_installations
[01:39] <holstein> Cheaterman: just that.. debian is ubuntu's upstream.. there are other versions of debian that would be "older" than ubuntu, and ones that are newer.. they have a different release and update cylce and scheme than ubuntu does.. you can read about that in the links i had the bot give you
[01:39] <abak> daftykins, Since the update, I noticed a performance regression in dup. Before the upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 I could still work while a backup was in progress, this is no longer prossible.  Nothing has changed in my setup (the destination of the backups, or the size of the increments), so I guess it's from dup
[01:40] <holstein> abak: backup of what?
[01:40] <gre-> okay.. it looks more "logic" to install "minimal" instead of "server" version for a desktop use
[01:40] <Cheaterman> holstein: indeed! i read a nice sentence that resumes it on the "what is debian" page
[01:41] <abak> holstein, /home
[01:41] <Cheaterman> thanks for the link
[01:41] <Artemis3> yes gre- you can choose your desktop or say command line (see options when boooting)
[01:42] <gre-> i3-wm is my favorite one, i have to install it manually
[01:42] <gre-> ty dude
[01:42] <holstein> abak: maybe you should schedule your backups for when you are not working
[01:42] <Artemis3> gre-, i think you need to press f5 or such, for "command line only install"
[01:42] <Artemis3> gre-, then sudo apt-get install your favorite
[01:42] <holstein> abak: it really depends on what kind of backup of what as to if i would expect to work while it was going on, or not
[01:43] <abak> holstein, yes they are supposed to run at night, but sometimes (e.g if the box was turned off at midnight), they trigger in the morning
[01:43] <atek> Hi guys, I ran updates today on my Ubuntu 14.04 system and it errored out on one particular update. Attempting to run them again fails so I ran an apt-get -f install and keep getting the following output: http://pastebin.com/yrhDAJMf
[01:43] <abak> holstein, and that doesn't change the fact that it was possible before the upgrade, so it's kind of a regression, maybe not a critical one but still
[01:43] <holstein> abak: i would address the "trigger in the morning", rather than bother with a bug..
[01:43] <gre-> Artemis3: and ofc before i gave to partition my disk
[01:43] <gre-> i have to*
[01:44] <gre-> ill try with gdisk
[01:44] <holstein> abak: is it? i think there are too many other variables to assume its a regression.. regardless. the !bug link is where you go
[01:44] <abak> !bug
[01:44] <atek> anyone have any idea on my update issue?
[01:44] <holstein> abak: your "assumed" update issue
[01:44] <Artemis3> gre-, it will ask you about partitioning
[01:44] <atek> can't install anything with apt-get in its current state
[01:45] <holstein> atek: sorry.. you have a *very* similar nick..
[01:45] <holstein> atek: i'll look at the scrollback
[01:45] <daftykins> atek: looks like you've got some conflicting repos
[01:45] <Artemis3> gre-, you don't need to partition before
[01:45] <abak> holstein, I completely know that it is subjective, and that i may be wrong on this one. Nethertheless, in my opinion, working around small issues is not satisfactory
[01:46] <holstein> atek: i would run "sudo apt-get update" and address whatever errors are there
[01:46] <gre-> indeed? :O
[01:46] <holstein> atek: do you have any PPA"s added?
[01:46] <gre-> cool
[01:46] <holstein> abak: sure.. file a bug, friend.. heres the link again
[01:46] <holstein> !bug | abak
[01:46] <atek> holstein: I do I am checking for errors on an update now
[01:46] <atek> daftykins: thanks checking now
[01:47] <atek> daftykins: I'm actually not getting any errors on apt-get update
[01:48] <daftykins> atek: wasn't me that suggested running it
[01:48] <holstein> atek: "sudo apt-get udpate"..do you have any ppas?
[01:49] <Cheaterman> Excuse-me for asking but where is the Wine support channel?
[01:49] <holstein> !wine
[01:49] <atek> holstein: here is the output of my apt-get update http://pastebin.com/cLg6Gpd7
[01:49] <Cheaterman> Oh winehq, thanks alot
[01:49] <atek> holstein: no errors on apt-get update
[01:50] <Guest37482> hi...i need you guys help...how can i add $HOME/npm/bin to $PATH???
[01:50] <holstein> atek: then, i try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and address errors
[01:51] <holstein> Guest37482: something like http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm might help you
[01:52] <holstein> Guest37482: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path more specificially to ubuntu
[01:52] <atek> holstein: here is the output from a dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/mVrfV89j
[01:53] <Guest37482> holstein:thanks
[01:53] <atek> holstein: it says I have missing dependencies and suggests running apt-get -f install, doing that gives the following output: http://pastebin.com/yrhDAJMf
[01:54] <holstein> atek: i would just address the issues you see, friend.. try "sudo apt-get autoremove libmatroska6 vlc-nox" then.. get "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to complete without errors,..try "apt-get -f install" again if needed
[01:56] <kahue> me ajuda
[01:56] <jakemp> Is there a way to see why my 13.10 installation isn't upgrading to 14.04?
[01:56] <kahue> instalei o xubuntu
[01:56] <kahue> para o 14.04
[01:56] <holstein> !upgrade
[01:56] <kahue> e meu pc n'ao liga mais
[01:56] <holstein> jakemp: you can share errors
[01:57] <jakemp> I'm not getting any. It just says up to date.
[01:57] <holstein> jakemp: sure. when you say " it" above, just start by elaboarting there.. and anywhere else
[01:57] <daftykins> kahue: english only in here please
[01:57] <kahue> ok
[01:57] <kahue> can you help me
[01:57] <kahue> i have installed xubuntu 14.04
[01:57] <kahue> and ubuntu 14.04
[01:57] <kahue> and my pc wont boot
[01:58] <kahue> keeps on restarting
[01:58] <kahue> on a infinite loop
[01:58] <holstein> kahue: i would test the hardware
[01:58] <jakemp> whenever I type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or  sudo do-release-upgrade, or when I go to the graphical updater, it says everything is up to date
[01:59] <kahue> hardware
[01:59] <kahue> ?
[01:59] <kahue> why?
[02:00] <holstein> kahue: im suggesting that becuase, i have seen that issue when i had bad or failing hardware in the past..
[02:00] <atek> holstein: I can't remove anything until dependencies are met, which requires installation of libebml4 but this is set to overwrite some part of libebml3 which is also in package libebml3:amd64 1.3.0-0~ppa0
[02:00] <holstein> kahue: if you had an issue, and reinstalled, then, maybe that issue is not resolved, and was not an issue with the operating system
[02:00] <holstein> atek: you can, and should
[02:00] <atek> holstein: which fails
[02:01] <holstein> atek: sure.. unwind the errors..
[02:01] <holstein> atek: did you install something out of repo? i dont see any PPA's..
[02:01] <holstein> maybe a .deb?
[02:01] <kahue> ok
[02:01] <kahue> got it
[02:01] <kahue> ty brother
[02:01] <atek> holstein: I have tried, it won't met me, Only chrome official
[02:01] <holstein> atek: not sure what you are talking about
[02:02] <holstein> atek: chrome is not in the repo.. is that the only pacakge that is added??
[02:03] <atek> holstein: chromium is in the repo, I download chrome .deb from google and installed some time ago. When I try to run the autoremove it fails due to unmet dependencies for libebml4
[02:03] <holstein> atek: you can try ppa purge.. or other methods of fixing repairing
[02:04] <holstein> atek: that will be the issue.. when you unwind whatever has happened.. i use chrome exclusively, and make it work
[02:09] <atek> holstein: ppa-purge returns command not found, I did have the canonical parters repo enabled as well as the Ubuntu Extras. I've disabled them but it sounds like I need to run ppa-purge to set any packages from them back to default sources
[02:10] <holstein> atek: did you install ppa-purge?
[02:10] <holstein> !Info ppa-purge
[02:12] <atek> holstein: apparently its not installed, apt-cache policy ppa-purge returns installed: (none)
[02:12] <daftykins> you're going to want to install it to run it
[02:12] <holstein> atek: then, thats why you get "command not found" ;)
[02:13] <holstein> atek: you install the applications *before* trying to run them..
[02:13] <atek> holstein: right.... I cannot install anything until apt-get is fixed though
[02:13] <atek> holstein: therefore it was logical just to try
[02:13] <holstein> atek: you can. you just have to figure out how
[02:14] <holstein> atek: no doubt, your package system is messed up.. you can mess it up like this by disabling repos like that, without removing pacakges.. you have to purge the ppa's, you cant just disable them
[02:16] <holstein> atek: i usually just work backwards from the issue.. i'll use other tools besides just apt.. i just do whatever it takes
[02:16] <atek> holstein: I'm not really too familiar with it to know how to do whatever it takes
[02:17] <holstein> atek: sure. consider *not* going outside the repo pacakges, then. thats one other big advantage to just using the normal packages and pacakge system.. someone else maintaining them for you
[02:17] <atek> holstein: but I did just get ppa-purge installed manually so lets see what I can break now ;-)
[02:17] <holstein> atek: lol.. you'll get it :)
[02:18] <daftykins> atek: via what method, out of interest? manual .deb download and dpkg -i ?
[02:18] <atek> daftykins: yes, though I believe I am using an outdated version of ppa-purge now because of it so be warned
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> but if you didn't add a ppa..
[02:22] <nith1210> I came in this late but if you want to make your own repositories without using ppas, mini-dinstall or apt-ftparchive can both do the job.
[02:27] <letstrythis> i have a hd partition i would like to install software on, but ubuntu makes them read only, and i can't mount them becuase they are alreay mounted...yet i can't browse to them
[02:28] <daftykins> letstrythis: "df -h" will show you what's mounted where
[02:30] <letstrythis> k
[02:32] <daftykins> letstrythis: as for mounting it correctly... assuming it's ext4 or a similar usable partition you'll want to edit /etc/fstab to mount it properly and permanently
[02:32] <mojtaba> Hi, I have an external HDD and the file permissions are: drwx------ 1 mojtaba mojtaba       0 Mar 19  2011 Extras
[02:32] <mojtaba> I run the following command, but nothing changes. sudo chmod -R 775 * Could you please tell me what should I do?
[02:32] <daftykins> letstrythis: however, ubuntu is about using packages... you can't tell packages to install to a specific partition
[02:33] <letstrythis> ty dafty
[02:34] <letstrythis> daftykins: i'd say that is an undesireable flaw of ubuntu then...
[02:34] <dually> Is there a way to tile windows in Unity like in Gnome. i.e. Super-left, Super-right, etc?
[02:35] <daftykins> letstrythis: depends what you're trying to achieve
[02:35] <atek> holstein: I found a bunch of other ppa's that I must have added under 13.10 before upgrading, I cannot seem to get ppa-purge to find any packages for them. If I remove the ppa's is there still a way to purge the packages after or will that no longer be needed?
[02:35] <daftykins> letstrythis: likely it's just a misunderstanding of how to implement something the best
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:35] <letstrythis> i'm just trying not to run out of disk space
[02:36] <daftykins> letstrythis: is your entire filesystem as / ? if so, i would move /home/username to be on another disk
[02:36] <letstrythis> not being able to install stuff where there is space and useable....is more then a misunderstandig xD
[02:37] <letstrythis> dafty but you said i could nt do that?
[02:37] <daftykins> no i didn't
[02:38] <daftykins> /home/username isn't where packages would install software
[02:38] <letstrythis> hmmm
[02:38] <daftykins> letstrythis: use the disk usage analyser program to see where the majority of space is being taken up
[02:39] <letstrythis> so i can install it normally then just move the folders?
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> would it be wise for a media store to sell ubuntu preinstalled computers like hp and dell, or rather wait for users
[02:39] <daftykins> letstrythis: which folders? :)
[02:39] <letstrythis> lotuspsychje: yes
[02:40] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: 'media store' ? 'wait for users' ?
[02:40] <letstrythis> daftykins: say bitcoin qt and doge qt?
[02:40] <letstrythis> lotuspsychje: don't wait many still have no idea what ubuntu is
[02:41] <daftykins> letstrythis: are you saying those are packages?
[02:41] <SchrodingersScat> letstrythis: is there a config file option and/or a parameter you can set to have your *coin data folder somewhere else?
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well lets say a computer/it store orders ubuntu preinstalled hardware, would it sell good or would it be wise to users know ubuntu more first
[02:41] <letstrythis> it will be a new experience for them
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu remix didnt sell well in the past for sure
[02:41] <letstrythis> dafty they are software available as ppa's or compilable
[02:42] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: that's totally beyond the scope of what this channel exists for
[02:42] <letstrythis> SchrodingersScat: i wish
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well it is kind of an ubuntu question right
[02:42] <daftykins> letstrythis: right but as SchrodingersScat suggests, there is installed software... then there is userdata created from software, which would likely live in /home/username/
[02:42] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: #ubuntu-offtopic .
[02:42] <letstrythis> lotuspsychje: it is but more mareketing of free software meant to be free
[02:43] <daftykins> this channel is for support only.
[02:43] <SchrodingersScat> letstrythis: -datadir=<dir> had you checked?
[02:43] <letstrythis> ah dafty SchrodingersScat  i think i can export it
[02:43] <dupingping> Please help me
[02:43] <holstein> atek: i know, at some point, reinstallation would be on my list
[02:43] <letstrythis> i'll have to try that
[02:43] <daftykins> dupingping: we can't until you ask something
[02:44] <dupingping> http://askubuntu.com/questions/470425/gedit-printing-problem
[02:44] <dupingping> I edited a question at here.
[02:44] <dupingping> and screenshots.
[02:44] <letstrythis> lotuspsychje: i suggest not waiting
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> letstrythis: tnx!
[02:44] <bluezone> how do i make subprocess open a new terminal window to execute the command
[02:44] <atek> holstein: that has been my usual fix but I'd rather mature past that method. I'll keep crackin at it
[02:44] <bluezone> w.c.
[02:45] <letstrythis> your devices will be teaching aids and introductions, to a rereshing new way that is not microhell
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> letstrythis: you might be able to add that to a .conf so that you don't have to make an alias/script/etc. to start it like that.  I have not checked that though, please refer to their manual.
[02:45] <mojtaba> 10:32:36 PM - mojtaba: Hi, I have an external HDD and the file permissions are: drwx------ 1 mojtaba mojtaba 0 Mar 19 2011 Extras
[02:45] <mojtaba> 10:32:36 PM - mojtaba: I run the following command, but nothing changes. sudo chmod -R 775 * Could you please tell me what should I do?
[02:45] <letstrythis> ty
[02:45] <holstein> atek: sure, but, you have an upgrade, that may not have been done properly.. no need to worry with it for hours.. install takes 8 minutes or so
[02:46] <atek> holstein: tis true
[02:46] <dupingping> daftykins: Hi, did you see mine question?
[02:46] <dupingping> then please help me.
[02:46] <dupingping> It's very important.
[02:46] <daftykins> dupingping: i did, and i understand you want your long list to be repeated in each quarter of a page
[02:46] <daftykins> every problem we have is important to ourselves, yes
[02:47] <dupingping> oh, yes it is.
[02:47] <daftykins> dupingping: have you tried printing just page 1 to see if it works, even though the preview is wrong?
[02:48] <dupingping> umm, you mean that preview is just wrong?
[02:48] <daftykins> i'm suggesting it's possible
[02:49] <dupingping> umm, I see.
[02:49] <dupingping> daftykins: I have one more question.
[02:49] <dupingping> about printing.
[02:50] <dupingping> my printer is one of HP Laserset p 1007 series.
[02:50] <goldcaf> I've installed lxc on 2 versions of ubuntu and the network for the contained installation isn't working. Ubuntu creates the bridge and the virtual ethernet adapter shows up, but the container isn't connecting to the bridge for some reason. Tried this on both 12.04 and 13.10 using same distro versions for container.
[02:50] <daftykins> dupingping: i just found what looks like a confirmation in debian for my suggestion - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=644950
[02:50] <dupingping> and Ubuntu12.04 detected it as exactly.
[02:51] <daftykins> dupingping: ok and the question? (on one line if you can)
[02:54] <letstrythis> wth can't download nothing cause /tmp is read only? why is everything locked?
[02:56] <goldcaf> this looks similar to my lxc networking issue but I'm not sure if this is the fix: https://github.com/fgrehm/vagrant-lxc/issues/153
[02:56] <goldcaf> I get those messages like: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
[02:56] <goldcaf> but it doesn't connect to the virtual bridge
[03:20] <hehe_bueh> Has anyone tried/successfully installed HHVM from the prebuilt package? I add everything to the sources.list, update, but no luck finding the package.
[03:20] <hehe_bueh> I ended up building the source without issue, but still, kind of a hassle.
[03:21] <hehe_bueh> Probably should take it up with Facebook, I guess, but I was curious if anyone else tried.
[03:28] <QuestionMark> Good night, how can i know if my Atheros Wireless is working or is just a Driver failure?
[03:28] <daftykins> psst Jeruvy
 it's oh... so... quiet
[03:28] <Jeruvy> daftykins yessir
[03:28] <daftykins> d'aww i chose the wrong moment
[03:29]  * Jeruvy cloaks
[03:29] <mojtaba> 10:32:36 PM - mojtaba: Hi, I have an external HDD and the file permissions are: drwx------ 1 mojtaba mojtaba 0 Mar 19 2011 Extras
[03:29] <mojtaba> 10:32:36 PM - mojtaba: I run the following command, but nothing changes. sudo chmod -R 775 * Could you please tell me what should I do?
[03:29] <daftykins> QuestionMark: you should have a wireless interface and network-manager should show networks it finds?
[03:30] <daftykins> mojtaba: that should definitely work, what filesystem is on it?
[03:30] <mojtaba> daftykins: How can I check that?
[03:30] <viper3905gt> ok im looking to do somthing kinda odd i have 2 usb drives one is an 8 gig one is a drobo i want to use the 8 gig to boot to the drobo... the drobo haz the OS but i cant get it to boot on its own.. is this posable?
[03:30] <mojtaba> daftykins: It does not change any permission!
[03:30] <daftykins> mojtaba: there's no harm in running it with an explicit path however: "sudo chmod -R 755 /path/you're/in/
[03:31] <QuestionMark> i can't see any SSID
[03:31] <daftykins> mojtaba: yeah, i understood that from your question the first time and just now when you repasted it too :)
[03:32] <viper3905gt> i guess what im asking is how can i point grub to anuther drive?
[03:32] <daftykins> viper3905gt: this is ubuntu support, not drobo support
[03:33] <viper3905gt> no 1 knows grub?
[03:33] <cfhowlett_> !grub
[03:33] <FredddyTom> is there an application i can use to queue file copy operations?
[03:33] <QuestionMark> !madwifi
[03:33] <viper3905gt> im not asking for drobo suport ... im asking how to point grub to a diffrent drive than its on
[03:33] <FredddyTom> kind of like teracopy for windows
[03:33] <QuestionMark> daftykins, i can't see any SSID
[03:33] <cfhowlett_> !grub| viper3905gt
[03:34] <viper3905gt> thank you
[03:35] <daftykins> QuestionMark: do you see networks at all?
[03:37] <QuestionMark> daftykins, no
[03:38] <daftykins> QuestionMark: do you know the hardware works?
[03:40] <QuestionMark> daftykins, no
[03:40] <QuestionMark> daftykins, how can i check it ?
[03:41] <daftykins> Windows? :)
[03:42] <mojtaba> daftykins: Do you know what should I do?
[03:42] <BatiNiki> hi
[03:42] <mojtaba> Please somebody help!
[03:42] <BatiNiki> no buts it looks nice :P
[03:42] <daftykins> mojtaba: well, i already suggested something but you don't seem to have tried it
[03:43] <BatiNiki> good morning joke
[03:43] <mojtaba> daftykins: I have tried that. I even run the command for one file. but still nothing
[03:43] <BatiNiki> where are u from :) ?
[03:44] <cfhowlett_> BatiNiki ask your ubuntu support questions
[03:44] <BatiNiki> tnx
[03:44] <daftykins> mojtaba: confirm the filesystem by running 'mount' to see if it reports it for that path
[03:46] <mojtaba> daftykins: /dev/sdb1 on /media/mojtaba/My Book type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[03:46] <daftykins> mojtaba: hmm, no clue there then
[03:47] <daftykins> or 'fuseblk' is it
[03:48] <daftykins> mojtaba: looks like that drive is NTFS, which means it doesn't support permissions, which explains why your command doesn't work
[03:48] <mojtaba> daftykins: so what should I do?
[03:48] <daftykins> mojtaba: depends what you're trying to achieve
[03:49] <mojtaba> daftykins: When I connect the HDD to my Mac it is read-only
[03:49] <daftykins> mojtaba: yes macs do not write to NTFS
[03:50] <mojtaba> daftykins: So, do you know what should I do?
[03:50] <daftykins> are you trying to say you want to exchange files between a mac and an ubuntu system?
[03:51] <mozzy77> hello all
[03:54] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yes, I have some files in my ubuntu and I put them in HDD. Now I want to open them in MAC.
[03:55] <daftykins> mojtaba: you should be able to open them fine, you just won't be able to change anything on that drive
[03:55] <daftykins> mojtaba: if you want to read and write from both OSs, you're going to need to format that drive with a filesystem that both systems can work with
[03:55] <mojtaba> daftykins: Do you know what is best file format?
[03:56] <daftykins> mojtaba: judging from a quick google, exFAT is your best bet.
[03:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: Thank you very much
[03:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: Just last question. Should I format it with my Mac system?
[03:58] <daftykins> mojtaba: use anything that you can format to exFAT with :)
[03:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: Thank you
[03:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: Bye
[03:59] <daftykins> o/
[03:59] <rainshoots> Hi, I just upgraded to Trusty from Saucy via a clean install and I am now having trouble getting my home folder back via a duplicity restoration.
[04:00] <rainshoots> Can anyone help out with this?
[04:02] <rwd> rainshoots: what error message do you get?
[04:03] <rainshoots> nvalid data - SHA1 hash mismatch for file: duplicity-inc.20140424T053227Z.to.20140508T021212Z.vol51.dif ftar.gz Calculated hash: e28fd59e70f82bb126eb76b0c76b807cc03f5b27 Manifest hash: 38e4dd60b6aac680493f03d8c8a3145474d45907
[04:04] <rainshoots> I've checked. It's a known bug.
[04:04] <mazid> hi
[04:04] <daftykins> rainshoots: what does the bug say to do?
[04:05] <mazid> how are
[04:05] <daftykins> mazid: do you have a support question?
[04:05] <rainshoots> It says I can try restoring from a previous backup
[04:06] <rainshoots> but that failed as well.
[04:06] <daftykins> rainshoots: might it work if you were still on saucy?
[04:06] <rainshoots> There was a missing tar.gz file.
[04:06] <rainshoots> I don't know.
[04:07] <rainshoots> https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/487720
[04:07] <daftykins> rainshoots: i have an idea crazy enough that it just... might... work.
[04:08] <daftykins> rainshoots: boot a saucy liveCD, try restoring your data to your /home partition from the backup from the saucy version?
[04:09] <rainshoots> Is there a way I can skip the corrupted volume and carry on with the restoration?
[04:09] <daftykins> never touched that software in my life so no idea
[04:11] <rainshoots> I can try that on a virtual machine. But I doubt it's gonna work.
[04:12] <daftykins> rainshoots: ah well, as long as you've learnt from this exercise!
[04:12] <daftykins> a backup is useless if it doesn' restore
[04:14] <rainshoots_> But I really NEED to get my files back.
[04:14] <rainshoots_> I lost my entire Zotero database with it.
[04:14] <daftykins> ok, but i have no experience with that software
[04:15] <rainshoots_> How do you backup your home folder?
[04:15] <daftykins> i actually don't
[04:16]  * cfhowlett_ backs up his /home to Dropbox ...
[04:16] <rainshoots_> So you just risk losing all your precious data?
[04:16]  * Beldar rysnc here
[04:16] <daftykins> no, but i don't run Linux on the desktop
[04:17] <Beldar> rainshoots_, If you backup your backups and are sure your backups are good you are set.
[04:18] <Beldar> and I'm not even ocd, heh
[04:18] <tron1978> hi all
[04:18] <rainshoots_> That's the problem. I don't know if the backups are good until I do a restore.
[04:18] <daftykins> nobody does
[04:19] <daftykins> unless you aren't verifying
[04:19] <daftykins> read: you = your software
[04:19] <cfhowlett_> never used that software but SURELY there's a functionality to test the backup?
[04:21] <rainshoots_> Thanks anyway!
[04:22] <goldcaf> anyone have experience with lxc? It seems the guest os isn't connecting to the bridge.
[04:22] <goldcaf> same on both ubuntu 12.04 and 13.10
[04:23] <goldcaf> I did default installs of ubuntu on both
[04:23] <daftykins> goldcaf: press enter less
[04:23] <goldcaf> this may be the issue with lxc on ubuntu but I'm not completely sure: https://github.com/fgrehm/vagrant-lxc/issues/153
[04:23] <goldcaf> daftykins, I don't think I ever pressed enter for anything
[04:24] <goldcaf> daftykins, have you successfully installed the guest os with networking on ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10?
[04:25] <goldcaf> the interfaces all show up, it's just that something isn't connecting
[04:25] <goldcaf> I get the message like: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
[04:25] <daftykins> goldcaf: ...in describing your problem please use fewer lines :)
[04:26] <goldcaf> ok
[04:27] <daftykins> maybe write it up once in a paste.ubuntu.com then link with a short reference, however it sounds like you'd be better off posting to askubuntu.com
[04:28] <goldcaf> I figured more people would have this problem as I've tried it on different systems and used the defaults
[04:29] <daftykins> i have never heard of the tech you mention, if it's a VM tech 0o
[04:29] <goldcaf> and I've read that lxc has gotten popular
[04:29] <goldcaf> daftykins, it's a "container" as compared to "full virtualizatoin"
[04:30] <daftykins> ok
[04:30] <goldcaf> a container doesn't emulate hardware, it's thought more as an enhanced chroot
[04:30] <daftykins> ok, i'm with you now
[04:30] <goldcaf> people are using containers on clouds because multiple containers on one cloud will share resources more efficiently than with multiple systems using full virtualization each
[04:31] <goldcaf> *on one server
[04:31] <goldcaf> but lxc is known to be buggy since it's not really fully developed yet
[04:32] <daftykins> reminds me of experimenting with Xen back in 2007/8
[04:33] <baka> ch BIGGER LEANER STRONGER
[04:33] <goldcaf> the guest os installs, updates initial install, and runs fine. But without networking after that it's pretty useless as  cannot install packages.
[04:33] <daftykins> you were relying on DHCP though, did you take that as being 100% bridge failure or did you try statically addressing too?
[04:35] <goldcaf> I didn't do anything with the networking setup, it supposed to take care of all that, and appears to do everything right. It seems to me there's one bug somewhere not letting dhcp server be found. I can see attempts in /var/log/ufw.log from the virtual interfaces. Something's not letting it happen.
[04:36] <daftykins> disabled the firewall for debug purposes?
[04:36] <daftykins> just because it's MEANT to work doesn't mean it's not worth trying additional steps
[04:36] <daftykins> you may find where something's busted
[04:36] <goldcaf> haven't tried that. I'll also try the checksum solution mentioned in the link I posted.
[04:37] <daftykins> *nod*
[04:40] <goldcaf> btw, this is a good explanation comparing linux containers to full virtualization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KnmRdK69qM
[04:43] <tgm4883> These libraries failed to download, try again. org.scala-lang:scala-compiler:2.10.2
[04:43] <tgm4883> err, wrong window sorry :/
[04:44] <agent_white> Good evening
[04:45] <Bashing-om> agent_white: Hello, you have a support request ?
[04:46] <daftykins> goldcaf: yeah thanks but i got it ;)
[04:54] <agent_white> Bashing-om: Nope!
[04:54] <agent_white> Unless someone here knows how to get http headers with tcpdump... and I mean _only_ the headers.
[04:54] <agent_white> -A of course works, but it gives me more than JUST the headers.
[04:58] <EpicCyndaquil> is this the place to ask for help with rsync, or is there somewhere better?
[04:58] <agent_white> EpicCyndaquil: Ask, don't ask to ask, where to ask, or who to ask.
[04:58] <agent_white> ;)
[05:00] <EpicCyndaquil> fair enough. I'm running rsync with -av, trying to do unidirectional sync with my server. For some reason, it's getting permission denied errors, and the folder it created is inaccessible by my user. rsync is using my user account. Any ideas?
[05:04] <tomatopotato> hi all
[05:04] <tomatopotato> does anybody know how i can set on OpenVZ a swap file?
[05:07] <gtuckerkellogg> I've gotten into a situation where I'm unable to install, reinstall, or uninstall a package (manual .deb)
[05:08] <daftykins> gtuckerkellogg: can you provide some pastebin output of what things are looking like?
[05:08] <daftykins> paste.ubuntu.com
[05:10] <attrapereves> My network connection seems to die when running a torrent. Any idea what could cause this?
[05:10] <gtuckerkellogg> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7500187/
[05:11] <ghostx562> it only drops when attempting to download or if you open a torrent program?
[05:11] <attrapereves> ghostx562, the connection will die when torrenting. Not just internet, but the entire network connection. I cannot ping my router or any computers on my network.
[05:12] <daftykins> gtuckerkellogg: you might be able to try a 'force' switch on either the dpkg -r or the reinstall attempt
[05:13] <gtuckerkellogg> daftykins, --force-all gives the same result for both installing and uninstalling
[05:13] <daftykins> ah.
[05:13] <daftykins> that's a nasty one!
[05:13] <gtuckerkellogg> yep
[05:14] <ghostx562> attrapereves, only when using torrent?
[05:14] <ghostx562> no issues with browser?
[05:14] <attrapereves> ghostx562, correct. I've never had any issues with IRC or browsing the net.
[05:15] <ghostx562> seems weird
[05:15] <ghostx562> i read up on the issue, some people suggest it might be a driver problem, or the network connection manager.
[05:15] <daftykins> gtuckerkellogg: hrmm, i'm afraid i have no better ideas. unless you can force dpkg to consider that package as not installed, then find another to force on
[05:15] <ghostx562> attrapereves, have you tried updating said drivers?
[05:15] <attrapereves> ghostx562, this is the last thing in /var/log/syslog when networking dies http://pastebin.com/CavhZuQe
[05:16] <attrapereves> ghostx562, haven't messed with any drivers yet.
[05:17] <ghostx562> attrapereves, maybe try a different network manager?
[05:17] <ghostx562> attrapereves, said connection is hard wired correct?
[05:17] <attrapereves> ghostx562, wired
[05:18] <attrapereves> a system restart fixes it. Unplugging and replugging the cable doesn't work.
[05:18] <ghostx562> attrapereves, does your ISP require certain settings under the network connection info?
[05:18] <attrapereves> ghostx562, nope
[05:18] <ghostx562> might be the network manager crashing, seems weird it should function just fine
[05:18] <citrix> kaha hai aap
[05:19] <ghostx562> attrapereves, !wicd
[05:19] <ghostx562> sorry wrong command
[05:19] <ghostx562> try using this see if it helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[05:20] <daftykins> i don't think you should rush to change network manager
[05:20] <daftykins> set a static IP, bypassing network manager
[05:21] <daftykins> then retry
[05:21] <gtuckerkellogg> daftykins, just sent a note to the developer
[05:21] <gtuckerkellogg> who knows if it'll help
[05:21] <attrapereves> Is there a command to bring eth0 up and down. Ifconfig throws an error
[05:21] <ghostx562> brb low battery......
[05:22] <daftykins> attrapereves: sudo ifconfig $interface up/down
[05:22] <daftykins> should work fine, what's the error?
[05:27] <goldcaf> daftykins, in case you were wondering, I disabled firewall and now the container connects to the virtual network.
[05:28] <goldcaf> but now I just discovered that containers are restrictive for security purposes and need to read up on how to admin the guest os, which doesn't let me use sudo or root :(
[05:29] <daftykins> goldcaf: progress :)
[05:42] <Broad_Sword> guys pls help
[05:42] <daftykins> what's the issue?
[05:43] <Broad_Sword> when i try to start my webrick server it says...A server is already running. /tmp/pids/server.pid.
[05:43] <Broad_Sword> can anyone help me pls
[05:43] <daftykins> 'webrick' ?
[05:43] <daftykins> what kind of system is this? and OS version?
[05:45] <daftykins> Broad_Sword: ^
[05:47] <Broad_Sword> i'm running trusty tahr ubuntu
[05:47] <timy> i
[05:47] <timy> what????
[05:47] <Broad_Sword> and i'm trying to run a local webserver webrick
[05:48] <Broad_Sword> ubuntu linux
[05:48] <timy> pakek bahasa indonesia dong =O
[05:48] <Broad_Sword> dafty can u help me with this
[05:48] <daftykins> Broad_Sword: possibly, it's probably running already.
[05:49] <daftykins> Broad_Sword: run "ps -ef | grep -i web" and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:56] <daya> Hello, Is there any way to use presssed in Ubuntu to modify installation behaviour. To show a screen and let user to use either My custom Automatic partition written in Pressed or Use Ubuntu System partition.
[05:58] <kingbeowolf> if i installed using the alternative installer
[05:58] <kingbeowolf> basically the commandline installer i have to manually install ubuntu-desktop correct?
[05:59] <kingbeowolf> anyone know?
[05:59] <daya> kingbeowolf: yes
[06:00] <kingbeowolf> daya: ok just checking because at boot i get an error and i get taken to a tty
[06:00] <kingbeowolf> daya: after i install ubuntu-desktop should i just reboot or can i start gdm?
[06:00] <daftykins> gdm hasn't been used forever
[06:00] <MACscr> im running ubuntu 14.04  and the system is simple a digital ocean guest. I plan to make this system a template so that i can clone it for future use. Anyway, it appears they configure the dns entries in the network/interfaces file instead of resolve. I need to though make sure that 127.0.0.1 is the first check. Any recommendations? I know if i simply edit the interfaces file, the change isnt going
[06:00] <MACscr>  to survive the cloning process
[06:00] <daftykins> lightdm
[06:00] <Bashing-om> daya: That is so, will require installing 'xorg' to support the gui.
[06:00] <MACscr> guess were not supposed to edit resolv.conf anymore?
[06:01] <kingbeowolf> so "sudo service lightdm start" ?
[06:01] <daftykins> MACscr: correct
[06:02] <MACscr> daftykins: so the network interfaces file is the only and recommended place for the nameserver entries?
[06:03] <kingbeowolf> what is "error: diskfilter rights not supported" ?
[06:03] <daftykins> MACscr: hang on let me find you the super handy website that explains all this
[06:03] <MACscr> thanks so much, i appreciate it
[06:03] <runciter> xx
[06:03] <daftykins> MACscr: ignore the version # in the title but - https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:07] <MACscr> daftykins: thanks, that helps a lot, but the article mentions using  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head to make sure something is always at the beginning, but when i open that file, it says not to edit it
[06:07] <MACscr> lol
[06:09] <daftykins> MACscr: mmm, i can't guarantee things haven't changed but i found that page useful :> when you say you want localhost to be the 'first check' though, what do you mean?
[06:09] <MACscr> daftykins: this server is a postfix system and i want dns checks cached because of rbl checks and im trying to get dnsmasq to work. Guess i works by default with desktops, but not servers
[06:10] <daftykins> ah, i have no postfix experience
[06:10] <MACscr> well luckily the issue isnt postfix related =P
[06:10] <MACscr> except for the reason why i want to implement it
[06:11] <daftykins> :D
[06:11] <daftykins> i'm familiar with nsswitch.conf specifying DNS configuration order preference
[06:11] <MACscr> hmm, weird though, it seems like dig @127.0.0.1 google.com is responding with the right info though
[06:13] <Jamesst20> Hi
[06:15] <daftykins> greetings
[06:16] <MACscr> hmm, guess its actually working
[06:16] <Jamesst20> I have two 128GB SSD in RAID with Windows 8.1 UEFI installed on it. (Basically, Windows reconize this as 1 SSD of 256GB). I also have a separate internet HDD of 1To where I would like to install Ubuntu. I want my laptop to keep booting to Windows 8.1 bootloader by default and if I press F11 at boot and then I select the Ubuntu hard drive, Grub pop ups. I tried to get that but instead it seems like Grub got installed on both hard dri
[06:16] <MACscr> i just did dig oreilly.com and the first result was 27 msec and the second was 2ms
[06:16] <MACscr> that pretty much implies that dns caching is taking place, right?
[06:17] <Jamesst20> I am trying to understand why would Ubuntu install Grub on both partition..
[06:17] <Jamesst20> even thought I asked at the install to install it on same parition as my Ext4
[06:18] <daftykins> so what boots now?
[06:18] <Jamesst20> doesn<t matter which hard drive, they both goes to Grub. But the 2 OS are working.
[06:19] <MACscr> so whats the problem?
[06:19] <Jamesst20> My problem is that Ubuntu shouldnt even have touched the 2 SSD connected in RAID since I am installing it to a second HDD.
[06:20] <Jamesst20> but instead he decided that all HDD would boot grub
[06:20] <Jamesst20> Whereas the SDD should boot Windows and the HDD Ubuntu
[06:20] <kingbeowolf> the open source nvidia driver works better with mutliple video cards and multiple monitors then the offical nvidia binary does
[06:20] <MACscr> thats pretty well known info
[06:20] <MACscr> same with ati
[06:21] <daftykins> Jamesst20: you should've pulled the SSDs to install like that
[06:21] <Jamesst20> daftykins: I am not willing to break my warranty but yes it would be indeed an easy way
[06:22] <kingbeowolf> im gonna have to get a different video card to run my 3 displays then
[06:22] <kingbeowolf> because this is horrible
[06:22] <Jamesst20> I am currently burning Windows 8.1 to USB key, I will reinstall everything from scratch. What can I do to not make this happen again^
[06:22] <kingbeowolf> whats a good video card for 3 or 4 displays in ubuntu
[06:24] <kingbeowolf> whats a good video card for 3 or 4 displays in ubuntu
[06:24] <daftykins> Jamesst20: warranty lost from pulling drives? pretty sure it doesn't work that way
[06:25] <daftykins> Jamesst20: i'm having a hard time believing you, you're going to reinstall entirely - despite that everything's working
[06:25] <Jamesst20> daftykins: my MSI GS70 is 2 days old and if I remove the bottom pannel, I will break the warranty as I will need to remove the warranty sticker to unscrew it
[06:27] <Jamesst20> daftykins: There must be a way to tell Ubuntu to not touch my 2 SSD^
[06:27] <Dzx> Bien le bonjour!
[06:28] <Jamesst20> Bonjour monsieur :P
[06:29] <daftykins> Jamesst20: pretty sure an EFI setup doesn't work this way. what you *could* do is install to the other drive as legacy, then boot-menu entry boot that manually that way
[06:29] <Jamesst20> daftykins: Yeah in a legacy way it would work great
[06:30] <Jamesst20> daftykins: I like that faster booting thought :D and I like to make things complicated :3
[06:30] <daftykins> i've noticed
[06:30] <daftykins> also, EFI isn't going to magically make ubuntu boot faster than a legacy install
[06:30] <Jamesst20> daftykins: But Ubuntu really installs grub on all EFI parition on both hard drives
[06:31] <daftykins> why not install ubuntu in EFI mode to the other disk in a system you CAN pull all other drives from, then transplant it after
[06:31] <daftykins> i don't know for sure.
[06:31] <MACscr> windows install does the same as well though doesnt it?
[06:31] <Jamesst20> daftykins: As I said I cant piull anything :/
[06:32] <Jamesst20> MACscr: As far as I know it will only install on the specific hard drive
[06:32] <MACscr> not the MBR, etc
[06:33] <Jamesst20> but my issue is very annoying.. They are not even the same drive! How do I tell ubuntu to not care about my 2 SSD so he only install grub on my HDD
[06:33] <helios_> help me : 17.932283] [drm:intel_pipe_compere] *ERROR* mismath in gmch_pflit.lvds_border_bits (expected 32768, found 0
[06:34] <daftykins> Jamesst20: so the other drive is internal too...
[06:34] <Jamesst20> daftykins: 2 SSD are m-sata, the HDD is SATA. All internal yes
[06:35] <daftykins> i didn't ask what interface they used
[06:35] <daftykins> Jamesst20: you're going to need to do some UEFI research on this one, start here:
[06:35] <daftykins> !uefi
[06:36] <daftykins> but i'm pretty certain doing a legacy install to the other drive will allow manual GRUB install to that disk only
[06:36] <daftykins> thus giving what you want, only 50% EFI
[06:36] <daftykins> however, what you want is... pretty loopy.
[06:39] <Jamesst20> daftykins: Yeah... I am sure it is possible :`
[06:40] <piyush121> hello
[06:41] <daftykins> hello
[06:43] <agent_white> hello
[06:43] <kingbeowolf> so what grapics card should i get to run up to 6 displays in ubuntu?
[06:46] <Jamesst20-2> Windows install has started
[06:46] <agent_white> kingbeowolf: Lawd. You mean "how many" of "what".
[06:59] <kingbeowolf> huh>
[07:00] <kingbeowolf> so it kinda sucks how amazon fire tv lets you use voice search but you can't do it on your computer
[07:00] <iRED> Hi
[07:00] <Sachiru> Quick query: Anyone here created a home/small business NAS using ZFS for storage onto the data disks?
[07:00] <Sachiru> Basically a Linux version of FreeNAS?
[07:01] <iRED> I have just upgraded ubuntu 12 to 14 now init.d networking script seems to be not working any idea
[07:06] <Yelu> iRED, yes, on Ubuntu Desktop do it via the "Network Manager" i the Panel => (Un-)checking "Enable Networking".
[07:07] <iRED> Yelu: what about server forget Desktop how can i restart multiple bridge connections
[07:09] <Yelu> iRED, try "sudo ifdown <if>" ad "sudo ifup <if>", then check via "ifconfig"
[07:09] <Yelu> ^and
[07:09] <iRED> Yelu: By ifdown each and every one ?? is there any solutions.. or do we have to create custom scripts to do that
[07:10] <phpwn> hello
[07:10] <phpwn> i'm on ubuntu 14 and it doesnt seem to have the php5-fpm package
[07:11] <phpwn> any idea why or how i can get this
[07:11] <phpwn> online it says ubuntu 14 usese php5-fpm
[07:11] <Togusa> phpwn: are you sure?
[07:11] <Beldar> Sachiru, You might ask in ##linux this is specific support, this is not a ubuntu issue.
[07:11] <iRED> lol its even missing init network script :D
[07:11] <phpwn> E: Package 'php5-fpm' has no installation candidate
[07:11] <Sachiru> Sorry, I worded my question wrong.
[07:11] <Togusa> phpwn: i have it on my system
[07:11] <phpwn> Package php5-fpm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:12] <Togusa> let me see
[07:12] <phpwn> this is a brand new install too
[07:12] <phpwn> of the OS
[07:12] <phpwn> though i am using pendrive linux
[07:12] <phpwn> on a usb stick
[07:12] <Togusa> phpwn: it seems to be working for me
[07:12] <phpwn> but i dont think that would change anything right?
[07:12] <phpwn> hmm
[07:13] <phpwn> weird.. any idea how i could debug this
[07:13] <trijntje> what is the easiest way to get started programming in php in ubuntu? I know I can use a server like apache to run the php code and firefox to view the resulting webpage, but that seems like a roundabout way of doing things
[07:13] <phpwn> its not showing up in apt-cache search either
[07:13] <Sachiru> I'm asking if anyone has ever successfully used Ubuntu Server as a NAS
[07:13] <Sachiru> Where the underlying filesystem for the storage disks is ZFS
[07:13] <phpwn> Togusa, what's the package name for you
[07:13] <phpwn> does it show up in apt-cache?
[07:13] <Beldar> Sachiru, Not a ubuntu issue is all.
[07:13] <Togusa> phpwn: i've linked you a pastebin
[07:13] <Sachiru> Not asking for a guide, but asking for experiences
[07:13] <phpwn> ty
[07:14] <MACscr> Sachiru: best not to use linux for zfs
[07:14] <Beldar> Sachiru, they are different OS
[07:14] <Sachiru> Was it hard to configure, stable, etc.
[07:14] <Sachiru> ... Ubuntu server is different from Ubuntu?
[07:14] <MACscr> you should use freebsd or a solaris flavor
[07:14] <MACscr> they are the same
[07:14] <phpwn> wow
[07:14] <phpwn> hmm
[07:15] <Sachiru> The thing is this is intended as an all-in-one box, hosting both the NAS (for an office of 10 people whose main use of the NAS is document storage) and an in-house CMS
[07:15] <Sachiru> FreeNAS is excellent at being a NAS, and nothing else.
[07:15] <Sachiru> Whereas if this is on Ubuntu I can do a lot more.
[07:15] <MACscr> ah, thats not really a nas then
[07:15] <Sachiru> Yep
[07:16] <MACscr> more just a file server
[07:16] <Sachiru> Essentially yes
[07:16] <Sachiru> Fileserver + CMS Host.
[07:16] <Beldar> Sachiru, For such a expert persona on nas you are asking rather simple questions.
[07:16] <Sachiru> I'm no expert
[07:17] <rnkn> what is the point of no return when upgrading an Ubuntu distro?
[07:17] <Sachiru> Hence the questions.
[07:17] <phyzloc_> Does Unbuntu 14.04 have known graphics/sound issues? Where can I read about that?
[07:17] <bazhang> !notes | phyzloc
[07:17] <mz125> #exit
[07:17] <Beldar> phyzloc_, Look up your hardware and 14.04 is most likely the best strat.
[07:17] <Beldar> start*
[07:18] <bazhang> rnkn, upgrading? dist-upgrading? or just package upgrades
[07:18] <phyzloc> ubottu: thanks
[07:18] <rnkn> bazhang: dist-upgrading
[07:18] <phyzloc> Beldar: is there a list of supported hardware?
[07:18] <bazhang> rnkn, dist-upgrading is NOT version upgrade
[07:18] <daftykins> ^
[07:18] <phpwn> works now
[07:19] <bazhang> !hcl | phyzloc
[07:19] <phpwn> togusa kicked my pc and it just installed
[07:19] <rnkn> bazhang: I'm going from 13.whatever to 14.04
[07:19] <bazhang> rnkn, the point of no return would be when the packages are already downloaded, and replacing them
[07:20] <bazhang> rnkn, ie configuring, etc
[07:20] <rnkn> bazhang: Doc we've past the windmill!
[07:20] <phpwn> man, ubuntu desktop's looking a lot better than it did 10 years ago
[07:21] <bazhang> !4.10
[07:21] <phpwn> close enough
[07:21] <phpwn> :P
[07:22] <phpwn> Initial release 	20 October 2004; 9 years ago
[07:22] <phyzloc> ubottu: And what should I do if my specific nvidia card is not listed? Which happens to be in my case
[07:23] <phyzloc> hehe
[07:23] <bazhang> phyzloc, which exact card
[07:23] <phyzloc> banzhang: Geforce 8600 GT
[07:23] <phyzloc> bazhang: 8400 and 8800 exists but not 8600
[07:24] <bazhang> phyzloc, if not doing intense 3d stuff the nouveua works a treat with that card, I have the same card
[07:24] <trijntje> how can I run a php script from the terminal? I've installed php5-cli but when i do php script.php, it just prints the content of the file, instead of running it
[07:25] <someHuman> Hello!
[07:25] <someHuman> I accidentally deleted photos via shift + delete
[07:25] <someHuman> How do I get it back?
[07:25] <bazhang> trijntje, why not try in ##php or whatever their channel is
[07:25] <somsip> trijntje: does your file start with <?php ?
[07:25] <phyzloc> bazhang: right now I'm using nvidia legacy drivers.. you mean it's better to revert?
[07:25] <bazhang> phyzloc, depends what you expect from such an old card
[07:25] <daftykins> phyzloc: compare performance and functionality, use what works best.
[07:25] <trijntje> someHuman: that will be hard. Shut down your pc right now and join the channel via another pc
[07:26] <phpwn> trijntje make sure the file starts with <?php
[07:26] <trijntje> somsip: no
[07:26] <phyzloc> bazhang: well I expect same perfromance I get when using windows
[07:26] <bazhang> !undelete | someHuman
[07:26] <somsip> trijntje: and there you have it.
[07:26] <Ben64> phyzloc: according to the nvidia readme i have, the legacy driver doesn't support the 8600
[07:26] <bazhang> phyzloc, I have no way of knowing that
[07:27] <phyzloc> Ben64: that's strange.. apt-get install nvidia-current installs nvidia legacy
[07:27] <trijntje> somsip, phpwn: thanks, I thought that was only needed when including php into an html page
[07:27] <phyzloc> Ben64: If I install the latest recommended then Unity stops working
[07:27] <somsip> trijntje: no, it's needed by the interpreter so it knows where the php statements are
[07:27] <Ben64> i'm just telling you what my nvidia drivers' readme says. it has a list of every card and which driver support it
[07:28] <phyzloc> Ben64: yeah I know..
[07:28] <phyzloc> Ben64: just think it's strange :-)
[07:28] <rnkn> on a scale of 1-10, how unwise is it to disconnect my net while upgrading to 14.04?
[07:28] <trijntje> someHuman: every second you keep using your pc the chances of recovering your data grow smaller. Please shut your pc down and rejoin the channel from another pc
[07:28] <rnkn> I'm up to the "Installing the upgrades" phase
[07:28] <trijntje> rnkn: 10, unless the download has already completed
[07:29] <trijntje> in that case I'm not sure, I've never tried it but I wouldnt recommend it
[07:29] <rnkn> trijntje: it's doing its unpacking
[07:29] <phyzloc> daftykins: is there a tool to do a function and performance test?
[07:29] <bazhang> rnkn, dont stop it at this point
[07:29] <rnkn> I'm on ethernet, there's wifi here, can I do a switch mid-stream...?!?
[07:30] <rnkn> you know, like Moneytrain starring Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes
[07:30] <bazhang> rnkn, no, but better not to do it.
[07:32] <phyzloc> Ben64: 8600 GT is supported in legacy drivers. Look at version 304.121 here http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[07:32] <letstrythis> so i edited fstab, and the partitions got messed up...i set it back the way it was, and still grub went to rescue....how did i mess up?
[07:32] <daftykins> phyzloc: doubt it, with such an old card a function test to me is "can i see a picture?"
[07:32] <letstrythis> an 8600?
[07:32] <Beldar> letstrythis, fstab is not grub rescue issue.
[07:32] <letstrythis> thats not old at all
[07:33] <letstrythis> hmm
[07:33] <letstrythis> and has many features and abilities worth testing
[07:33] <phyzloc> I don't know how old it is actually
[07:34] <letstrythis> i'm still shopping fir 8800 pci and pci-e
[07:34] <letstrythis> "best gpu ever made"
[07:34] <daftykins> letstrythis: it is in this industry
[07:34] <letstrythis> keplar is badass tho
[07:34] <daftykins> letstrythis: this channel is for support only, not general chat.
[07:35] <letstrythis> yes it is
[07:35] <daftykins> letstrythis: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:35] <Beldar> letstrythis, Oh well you seem to have another agenda, good luck.
[07:35] <phyzloc> daftykins: What is a good gfx card today that linux support 100%?
[07:35] <letstrythis> we are supporting people hush you
[07:35] <bazhang> letstrythis, get back on topic please
[07:35] <daftykins> phyzloc: really depends what you're using the system for
[07:35] <letstrythis> Beldar: what are you talking about? grub isnt involved with my fstab editing how?
[07:36] <lando> i'd hate to interupt but i have a question to ask
[07:36] <phyzloc> daftykins: it's a HTPC
[07:36] <letstrythis> lando alays just ask
[07:36] <bazhang> lando, please ask, no lines here
[07:36] <Beldar> letstrythis, Grub rescue just means your grub is not set up correctly, fstab would be involved after you boot from grub.
[07:37] <lando> k well, i've been trying to install ubuntu on vm but for some reason it doesn't work
[07:37] <letstrythis> fstab is all that changed
[07:37] <bazhang> lando, vm? which one, vbox, vmware, etc
[07:37] <lando> like, it'll finish installing but it won't let me restart
[07:37] <lando> virtualbox
[07:37] <daftykins> phyzloc: so what do you run, XBMC?
[07:38] <Beldar> !bootinfo | letstrythis run this a pastebin the final script
[07:38] <letstrythis> perhaps i shut down too early? powered off and this messedup the usb?
[07:38] <TJ-> letstrythis: After fixing the grub settings, did you do both "sudo update-grub" and "sudo update-initramfs -uk all" ... that last step is optional, but needed if, for example, you're using LUKS encryption for rootfs
[07:38] <phyzloc> daftykins: Yes.. which I have other problems with actually (but that's a different issue)
[07:39] <daftykins> phyzloc: right, get an nvidia 610+
[07:39] <Beldar> letstrythis, I will point out that this channel is full of people helping right now that would tell me if I was wrong. ;)
[07:39] <lando> it keeps saying something's wrong with my current os (windows 8) that won't let me fully install ubuntu through virtual box
[07:39] <TJ-> phyzloc: What is the actual problem you're having (I missed the beginning of your description) ?
[07:39] <daftykins> phyzloc: though if your system is old enough to have an 8000 series, i'd be concerned at the rest of the spec too
[07:40] <phyzloc> daftykins: Ok, I'll look it up
[07:40] <daftykins> phyzloc: also bear in mind #xbmc exists
[07:40] <lando> honestly i'm at my wit's end here
[07:40] <lando> what do i do??
[07:40] <daftykins> lando: you tell us the error first
[07:41] <phyzloc> TJ-: Well it doesn't play certain formats correctly.. don't know if it's because of codecs in ubuntu or XBMC itself
[07:41] <phyzloc> daftykins: Yeah, I'm there too :-)
[07:41] <TJ-> phyzloc: My laptop here runs nvidia driver version 337.19 for 3x GPUs on the same laptop: an 8600M GT (G84) internal, and Quadro NVS420 (dual G98) externally
[07:42] <lando> i think i mentioned it but every time it tries to finish installing a pop up appears saying that there's something wrong with windows that won't let me finish installing
[07:42] <TJ-> phyzloc: That sounds more like a codec library issue, unless you're talking about stuttering and tearing of frames, for example
[07:42] <lando> i don't know how else to say it
[07:42] <lando> keep in mind i'm also pretty new to this
[07:43] <daftykins> phyzloc: that sounds a lot more like a driver and configuration issue, but i would only bother #xbmc people once you've gotten rid of that old card
[07:43] <trijntje> lando: the exact error
[07:43] <trijntje> !details
[07:44] <daftykins> lando: perform the actions again then either write down the error message or take a screenshot and upload it so you can link it here
[07:44] <TJ-> daftykins: Nothing wrong with 8600! supports VDPAU perfectly fine
[07:44] <phyzloc> TJ-: .mkv files are playable in VLC but I get strange clippings/loops/pauses in XBMC
[07:44] <lando> dang that's going to take a while since i'll have to try to install again
[07:44] <daftykins> TJ-: doesn't disprove what i've stated :)
[07:45] <TJ-> phyzloc: OK, that's a codec library issue I'd think; VLC using a different library to XBMC, or XBMC not using GPU offload possibly
[07:45] <letstrythis> TJ-: no i didnt think or know i had tto
[07:45] <Beldar> lando, How full is the HD? Have you defragged lately?
[07:45] <phyzloc> TJ-: but in both VLC and XBMC the sound can randomly be muted.. and it might come back if I skip frames back or forth
[07:46] <phyzloc> TJ-: So XBMC doesn't use Ubuntu codecs?
[07:46] <lando> nah man my hd still has 653 gb of space left
[07:46] <Beldar> lando, Be sure on the irc you use nicks.
[07:46] <TJ-> phyzloc: Do you know about the standard system log-files that linux keeps? I'd suspect you may find clues in "/var/log/kern.log" or "/var/log/syslog" that might indicate underlying issues. Also, you can run vlc from a terminal and capture extensive debug messages that help experts identify problems more easily
[07:47] <phyzloc> TJ-: Nothing is shown in syslog but never checked kern.log
[07:47] <ludewig> monablu
[07:48] <TJ-> phyzloc: Also, as you're seeing the issue in XBMC, might be best to capture logs for it and talk to the XBMC support people. See http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Log_file
[07:48] <phyzloc> TJ-: When I play .mkv files in XBMC I can also see the system slows down dramatically.. even mouse movements are slow
[07:48] <letstrythis> phyzloc: many hardware issues aen't really os dependant...if need be you can find work arounds for your issues...but much of this is just you, doing a whole bunch of in depth troubleshooting then manually configureing that install to work
[07:48] <letstrythis> that cpu/irq?
[07:49] <TJ-> phyzloc: That sounds like the CPU is having to do the decoding (which is processor intensive) and starving all other user processes of time. That in turn suggests that the XBMC configuration isn't doing hand-off of video decoding tasks to the GPU using the VDPAU interface
[07:50] <phyzloc> TJ-: Maybe.. but hardware acceleration is selected now when I use nvidia legacy drivers
[07:51] <letstrythis> with ubuntu in many cases you simply give it what it needs and configure it xD
[07:51] <lando> i'll just try to install it again and see if i can screenshot the problem, it's just that it's p quick..
[07:51] <TJ-> phyzloc: It's a long time since I hacked under the hood of XBMC so I can't be much more help on the specifics. I can only tell you the obvious places to focus your enquiries
[07:52] <letstrythis> TJ-: sometimes its not so obvious
[07:52] <phyzloc> TJ-: I get you :-) Thanks though, I'll look further into it and see if I'll find something
[07:53] <TJ-> lando: The error you see, is it along the lines of "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot – please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
[07:55] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:55] <Krishnamurti> who knows how to config mythtv on ubuntu?
[07:55] <cristian_c> I'd like to delete all the content on my mp3 player to replace it with my backup folder content
[07:55] <cristian_c> How can I do it?
[07:55] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:56] <bazhang> !mythbuntu | Krishnamurti
[07:56] <bazhang> cristian_c, what mp3 player
[07:56] <cristian_c> bazhang, gogear raga
[07:57] <cristian_c> bazhang, I can't remove one folder andtwo files
[07:57] <bazhang> cristian_c, plug in in, open Rhythmbox, do what you need to
[07:57] <cristian_c> *and two
[07:57] <cristian_c> bazhang, but rhythmbox is a music player
[07:57] <cristian_c> :(
[07:58] <bazhang> cristian_c, it acts to sync music files as well...
[07:58] <cristian_c> bazhang, but I should delete all the files on the device
 that only happens when i try to work with the 64-bit iso..
[07:58] <bazhang> cristian_c, are you even trying what is suggested?
[07:58] <cristian_c> and then replace with files in my backup folder I created previously
[07:59] <Peter> I have a question about a startup disk. Am I in the right place?
[07:59] <cristian_c> bazhang, rhythmbox doesn't solve this problem
[07:59] <bazhang> cristian_c, give the exact error when you use rhythmbox to do it. It works Great here
[08:00] <cristian_c> bazhang, rhythmbox doesn't show all the files on the device
[08:00] <cristian_c> bazhang, the file manager shows them
[08:00] <TJ-> lando: OK, I was trying to identify which particular class of error you're experiencing. But that tells us you're using the 32-bit version of VirtualBox, or that its Windows 8 32-bit
[08:01] <piroux> hello, i have a few issues with ubiquity/success_command while install preseeding. I am able to touch files  in /target but not co copy files from the usb install stick to the target system.
[08:01] <piroux> It just do nothing
[08:01] <piroux> i am neithier able to apt-get install
[08:01] <piroux> any ideas ?
[08:02] <cristian_c> bazhang, but I don't think rhythmbox is affected by errors
[08:02] <bazhang> cristian_c, no idea then.
[08:02] <cristian_c> ok
[08:02] <cristian_c> Any other ideas?
[08:03] <TJ-> piroux: Is the installer device mounted at the path you're using for the 'cp' SRC ?
[08:03] <lando> TJ: well i believe my windows is 64-bit but i dl the 34-bit ubuntu...and whenever i did use the 64-bit it had that error you were mentioning..
[08:04] <TJ-> lando: OK, well it works like this: A host OS that is 64-bit can run virtual machines that are 64-bit or 32-bit, but a 32-bit OS (usually) cannot (unless it does very slow software emulation of CPU instructions).
[08:04] <piroux> TJ-: am able to list files recursively on this device and write this output in the /target directory, so that when i reboot i can see those files
[08:05] <piroux> so yes
[08:05] <piroux> it is so weird
[08:05] <TJ-> lando: But even with a 64-bit host OS, if the virtual machine hypervisor (in this case VirtualBox) is the 32-bit version, it doesn't provide the 64-bit CPU instructions for the guests, so only 32-bit guest operating systems can be installed.
[08:06] <TJ-> lando: But from what you said earlier it sounds like the error you're seeing is generated by either Windows or VirtualBox, rather than the Ubuntu installer itself - is that correct?
[08:07] <piroux> TJ-: BTW i am neithier able to apt-get install ny package altough it seems pretty doable when i look on SO and ubuntu forums
[08:07] <TJ-> piroux: What command are you attempting to execute? Is it using variables, or introducing spaces into the path(s) ?
[08:07] <lando> TJ: well that's what i've been trying to say, windows itself is not letting me install ubuntu in virtual box because it won't let me restart to finish the job
[08:08] <TJ-> piroux: You can't use "apt-get install" from "ubiquity/success_command" since it isn't operating in the /target/ chroot, it is working in the installer environment
[08:09] <piroux> even with ubiquity/success_command string in-target apt-get install ... ?
[08:10] <TJ-> lando: Are you 100% sure the error comes from Windows/VirtualBox, is my point ... are you able to capture a screenshot or photograph it, and show us? There are certain Ubuntu installer warnings/errors that can occur at around the same time
[08:11] <lando> TJ: eh like i said man it would take a while to install the thing, hope you don't mind waiting..it only shows up at the very end of the installation
[08:12] <TJ-> piroux: I'm going by the wiki info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation
[08:14] <someHuman> Hello!
[08:14] <piroux> TJ-: yeah i know thois page, but it might be also aoutdated. I think a lot of dev have been done in ubiquity
[08:14] <someHuman> I accidentally deleted my files via shift + delete
[08:14] <someHuman> I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[08:14] <someHuman> Would that help?
[08:14] <piroux> maybe they did not fill the docs properly ...
[08:16] <someHuman> Hello?
[08:16] <Kartagis> someHuman: it might
[08:16] <someHuman> Kartagis: Can you help me with it?
[08:16] <Kartagis> I may try
[08:16] <someHuman> Kartagis: Thanks!
[08:17] <someHuman> So I am already starting to set it up with ./configure
[08:17] <Kartagis> !photorec | someHuman
[08:17] <Kartagis> gah
[08:18] <Kartagis> someHuman: just get the binaries, no need to ./configure
[08:18] <Ben64> !recover | someHuman
[08:18] <someHuman> Oh cool, I already have photorec
[08:18] <Kartagis> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[08:18] <Ben64> someHuman: if you're using the computer you're trying to recover from, stop
[08:18] <someHuman> Ben64: ?
[08:19] <Ben64> someHuman: any writes to the drive could make your data lost forever
[08:19] <Kartagis> Ben64: what if it's another drive?
[08:19] <Ben64> someHuman: boot a livecd or liveusb or something for this
[08:19] <someHuman> The pictures was deleted an hour and some minutes ago.
[08:19] <someHuman> Ben64: Then?
[08:19] <TJ-> piroux: looking at the source, "success_command" results in "execute_root('sh', '-c', self.success_cmd)", which in turn calls execute(...) which calls subprocess.call(...)
[08:19] <Ben64> then use photorec
[08:19] <someHuman> Ben64: How about using Windows?
[08:19] <someHuman> I have two OS installed.
[08:20] <Ben64> we can't help you with windows
[08:20] <Kartagis> someHuman: won't work
[08:20] <someHuman> Ah ok.
[08:20] <someHuman> Ok I'll get into another PC.
[08:20] <someHuman> Wait.
[08:20] <Ben64> the main idea is you don't want anything being written to the drive that you're trying to recover from
[08:20] <someHuman> Nevermind, see you guys!
[08:20] <someHuman> Ben64: Ok.
[08:21] <Kartagis> how do kill SCIM? it's not in ps aux output
[08:22] <Takanen> I am using PXE boot to load linux mint, during loading I get the following: mounting root file system... /init line 250: divided by zero and after that kernel panic. Any ideas how to fix this problem?
[08:22] <master> hollo
[08:23] <master> im back again with a ntfs problem
[08:24] <master> why would windows report inconsistencies in the MFT when the disk has been used in ubuntu?
[08:24] <piroux> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7500607/
[08:24] <someHuman> be
[08:25] <someHuman> back!
[08:25] <master> in ubuntu i have used ntfsfix with no errors
[08:25] <someHuman> k
[08:25] <Beldar> master, You have to be careful in changing windows from linux.
[08:25] <someHuman> sorry for the typos
[08:25] <Ben64> master: ntfsfix is not a replacement for chkdsk
[08:25] <master> i know
[08:25] <Ben64> master: then theres your answer
[08:25] <master> but was a way to check theat the ubuntu did not broke the data
[08:26] <master> so i copy data on the disk in ubuntu i check to see is there o do restart i check again
[08:26] <master> all is fine
[08:26] <TJ-> Takanen: That suggests you're passing the wrong, or a bad, path for the rootfs to the kernel
[08:26] <master> then when i go in windows chkdsk reports orphans a lot of them
[08:27] <Beldar> master, This a straight from ubuntu to the partition the windows OS is on?
[08:27] <master> no its a separate disk
[08:27] <someHuman> what do i do now ben?
[08:27] <master> used for backup
[08:27] <Ben64> someHuman: see if photorec can recover your files
[08:28] <master> the thing is i have 2 volumes for storage both ntfs
[08:28] <master> one is a raid0 and the other is a single disk
[08:29] <master> the raid array has no problems but the disk witch i use to backup the raid has
[08:29] <TJ-> piroux: The common issue is, you're assuming you can use "in-target" but the chroot has been removed, all you have is the mounted /target/
[08:29] <someHuman> steps ben?
[08:29] <master> hibernation is disabled
[08:29] <piroux> TJ-: ok i got that, i will get rid of these ones
[08:29] <Ben64> someHuman: i'm sure google could help you out with that a lot more than i could
[08:29] <QWE650> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <QWE650> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <QWE650> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <QWE650> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <QWE650> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <QWE650> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:29] <unopaste> QWE650 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:30] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUI551> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUI551> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUI551> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <FJGQVT538> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY256> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY256> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <unopaste> FJGQVT538 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:30] <Ben64> !ops
[08:30] <unopaste> ubottu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:30] <thunder1212> i need help i am using ubuntu 14.04
[08:30] <MGDQVT574> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEQVT803> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEFJG286> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <LIYJKU584> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY256> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <JKUFJG314> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUI551> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <MGDQVT574> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEQVT803> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEFJG286> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <piroux> TJ-: but the fat is that i cannot read a file from the install media and write it in target
[08:30] <QVTFRK797> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <FGHQWE5> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <FJG324> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <MGDQVT574> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEQVT803> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEFJG286> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <LIYJKU584> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY256> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <JKUFJG314> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUI551> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <Beldar> kind of an odd forum
[08:30] <QVTJKU135> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QVTFRK797> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <FGHQWE5> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <FJG324> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <MGDQVT574> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEQVT803> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QWEFJG286> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <LIYJKU584> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY256> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <JKUFJG314> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY833> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
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[08:30] <QVTJKU135> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <OUILIY833> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:30] <QVTFRK797> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:31] <MGDFJG303> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:31] <MGDFJG303> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:31] <MGDFRK442> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:31] <MGDQVT574> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:31] <MGDQVT574> !BENGAHZI WAS A COVERUP | SANDY HOOK WAS A GOVERNMENT BLACK FLAG OPERATION | DO NOT BELIVE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
[08:31] <thunder1212> i need help
[08:31] <trijntje> thunder1212: ask away
[08:31] <unopaste> ubottu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:31] <TJ-> someHuman: You should boot from a live ISO on a USB flash device so the hard disk isn't being used; then from the liveISO you can run the recovery tools safely (photorec is the primary tool for recovering deleted files on an otherwise good file-system)
[08:32] <thunder1212> trijntje, i use ubuntu 14.04 i have a canon mf3010 device it does not scan
[08:32] <Beldar> thunder1212, you have tried simple scan and xsane?
[08:33] <thunder1212> Beldar, tried
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[08:33] <Beldar> thunder1212, I found xsane needing to be tweaked to work at all.
[08:33] <Beldar> simple scan is pretty generic
[08:34] <thunder1212> Beldar, ok
[08:35] <thunder1212> Beldar, what to do
[08:35] <joelmo> im in ubuntu 14.04 can I install a package from 14.10?
[08:35] <someHuman> Ben64: You there?
[08:36] <someHuman> Ben64: What do I do now?
[08:36] <TJ-> piroux: I'm wondering if your ordering or parameters to "cp" may be an issue? "man cp" says "cp -t DIRECTORY SOURCE" whereas you have "cp ${OPTIONS} SOURCE -t DIRECTORY" ... can't see why it would make a difference, but there must be a reason the man-page calls that format out specifically
[08:36] <raumin> hi
[08:36] <someHuman> Use the PC that lost the data and use photorec?
[08:36] <trijntje> joelmo: 14.10 doesnt exist
[08:36] <someHuman> Sorry that I just left, had to switch to PC my bro used the iPad.
[08:36] <someHuman> Hello?
[08:37] <someHuman> Ben64: Dude you there?
[08:37] <Beldar> thunder1212, With xsane this was a couple of years ago I just found it on the web, I have no link. The key here though are details on what has happened in your case for the channel to help
[08:37] <trijntje> someHuman: are you now on the pc that the lost files are on?
[08:37] <joelmo> trijntje: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:37] <someHuman> trijntje: Nope, on another PC.
[08:37] <Ben64> someHuman: why not look for a photorec guide, or just start it up and follow the options
[08:37] <the_drow> What's the .bashrc file for root?
[08:37] <raumin> the alternate cd has been discontinued with 14.04 so how can i install ubuntu with lvm (no encryption) on a disk with Windows already installed ?
[08:37] <someHuman> Ben64: BRB
[08:38] <trijntje> joelmo: thats very early alpha, there is no safe way to use packages from there. I would probably upgrade if you really want it, or try manually installing the package, but that could cause all sorts of problems
[08:38] <piroux> TJ-: i use this option in this order every day
[08:38] <llutz> the_drow: /root/.bashrc , /etc/bash.bashrc
[08:38] <lando> TJ: http://i.imgur.com/yyfWB0L.jpg
[08:38] <joelmo> but is there some easy way to just pull the package and install it, just want a single from there
[08:39] <piroux> TJ-: what about using preseed/late_command instead ubiquity/sucess_command  ?
[08:39] <TJ-> lando: Well that is pretty clear! It's a VirtualBox issue
[08:39] <trijntje> joelmo: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <the_drow> llutz: Is there any difference?
[08:39] <piroux> TJ-: does it still works on trusty ?
[08:39] <TJ-> piroux: The other thing I did wonder was, if its only commands after you're used pipe redirections that fail?
[08:40] <lando> TJ-: so what should i do?
[08:40] <llutz> the_drow: the on in /etc is systemwide, the other personal
[08:41] <TJ-> lando: Contact Oracle or Microsoft, or their support forums
[08:41] <piroux> TJ-: there is no "set -o errexit", so that even if one command fail, the others are executed
[08:41] <Cuppa_coffee> quick question: wasnt there some small program that allowed you to change settings to GRUB2 via some GUI? I've used it before and appear to suffer from juvenile dementia
[08:42] <Beldar> Cuppa_coffee, What kind of settings, boot order?
[08:42] <Cuppa_coffee> boot order, and selection time
[08:42] <the_drow> llutz: ok, thanks
[08:43] <lando> TJ-: well thanks for the help anyways
[08:43] <Cuppa_coffee> boot order should stay as is (Ubuntu first) selection time should change (have an ssd now and it's flying all over the place)
[08:43] <Beldar> Cuppa_coffee, There is a gui for the order, all this can be done in /etc/default/grub though.
[08:43] <TJ-> piroux: The subprocess.call(...) prepends ubiquity logger parameters; have you checked that log for indications?
[08:44] <Cuppa_coffee> Beldar, GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 is the one I need to change right?
[08:44] <piroux> yeah i use the debug ubiquity parameter something as boot param
[08:44] <piroux> but the log is not useful
[08:45] <Beldar> Cuppa_coffee, Yeah for the time it will hold till booting.
[08:45] <Beldar> update-grub after is all
[08:45] <Cuppa_coffee> sudo that one right?
[08:45] <Cuppa_coffee> ah well, its done already.
[08:45] <Beldar> Cuppa_coffee, Yeah.
[08:46] <Cuppa_coffee> Thanks Beldar, have a virtual beer on me!
[08:46] <Beldar> Cuppa_coffee, mmm, thanks. ;)
[08:48] <TJ-> piroux: I'd reduce the string down to a basic one that is easy to test and build from, e.g. "cp -v /atawa-app/test_app2 /target/t2_a > /target/cp-result.log 2>&1"
[08:49] <piroux> TJ-: i looked at it, and the installer execute a bunch of "mount /target ..." with log-output. - ubiquity prepended !
[08:49] <TJ-> piroux: "/atawa-app/test_app2" literally in the installer root path? not on the "/cdrom/" mount point?
[08:49] <grr911> how do i get intel drm+fb up and running in a nice clean way on a ubuntu 14.04 LTS server ?
[08:49] <piroux> not "mount /target", but rather "chroot mount/umount ..."
[08:49] <grr911> i want my i915 modules loaded
[08:50] <grr911> doesnt seem to be in the kernel
[08:50] <davros_> I'm having some really weird problems with Ubuntu 13.10. It's running in a Parallels VM and when I log in, I've got no cursor and the desktop isn't rendering. Luckily I had Guake Terminal installed so I can access the command line, but I can't do anything else. Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/ACPOZ
[08:51] <wols_> grr911: update your initramfs and it should be already in there. if not, add i915 to your /etc/modules and update your initramfs again
[08:51] <wols_> davros_: the "show details" is a big hint
[08:51] <davros_> I can't click it
[08:51] <davros_> no mouse
[08:51] <davros_> or cursor, rather
[08:52] <TJ-> grr911: check the module is available with "modinfo i915", as well
[08:52] <Beldar> davros_, The details of that error did not seem relevant?
[08:52] <grr911> wols_: i cant even modprobe it
[08:53] <wols_> grr911: and the error is?
[08:53] <grr911> wols_: i use the server edition on a laptop ,,(yea im crasy)
[08:53] <grr911> module not found
[08:53] <davros_> I cannot click on anything in the window, but I can use my hotkey to access my terminal
[08:53] <Beldar> davros_, Ah.
[08:53] <grr911> i assume the server guys didnt think that more adv drivers should be there by default
[08:53] <someHuman> Ben64: Could you help me with photorec?
[08:53] <grr911> which is fine, but my laptop goes completely ballistic with the vesa frabuffer
[08:54] <grr911> uses 100% cpu and even ssh ttys are dead slow
[08:54] <Ben64> someHuman: first link for googling "how to use photorec" http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[08:54] <grr911> wols_: so how do i add i915 driver to my server kernel in a easy clean way
[08:54] <grr911> without compiling my own kernel
[08:54] <wols_> grr911: dpkg -L linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep i915
[08:55] <grr911> wols_: empty!
[08:55] <TJ-> grr911: the kernel contains the modules, via the package "linux-image-$(uname -r)-generic"
[08:55] <wols_> grr911: install a different kernel
[08:55] <piroux> TJ-: i am trying another install, i come back in 10 min
[08:55] <grr911> wols_: yea though so,, cooll thanks
[08:55] <TJ-> piroux: OK ,, good luck
[08:55] <grr911> wols_: i was just looking for the package name
[09:03] <letstrythis> for those who were helping me diagnose my fstab and grub issues https://binbox.io/auzz3#mzo29C3H a paste of the results of bootinfoscript
[09:04] <letstrythis> there is no active windows partitions...but may be some left i wish to recover later
[09:06] <keevitaja> hi, is it possible to turn off notifications for spottify? i really do not get why i need to be notified on each new track that starts to play
[09:11] <gt8ost4l> anyone knowof an ide that supports python indenting
[09:11] <TJ-> letstrythis: that shows that GRUB's boot-sector is on /dev/sdb but the rest of the GRUB files are on /dev/sdc1
[09:12] <Cuppa_coffee> gt8ost4l, try geany?
[09:12] <gt8ost4l> i tried that still no luck have you ttried sublime
[09:12] <Grilka> Or try Wing IDE
[09:12] <raumin> the alternate cd has been discontinued with 14.04 so how can i install ubuntu with lvm (no encryption) on a disk with Windows already installed ?
[09:13] <someHuman> iptable: This is what I've done so far http://imgur.com/7gKKTtm
[09:13] <iptable> soundsabout right
[09:13] <someHuman> iptable: I used photorec lol, pretty sure that it will recover files even one week ago haha!
[09:13] <Grilka> Anyone had problems with 13.10 and nVidia drivers and Unity
[09:14] <TJ-> raumin: the installer supports LVM installations natively
[09:15] <someHuman> iptable: There one more problem.
[09:15] <someHuman> iptable: I expect that my PC will go into sleep when I close the lid, but instead it hangs.
[09:15] <raumin> TJ-: yes but only on an empty disk
[09:15] <iptable> as in hung completely?
[09:15] <iptable> check BIOS acpi settings
[09:16] <TJ-> raumin: I've done LVM installs into an in-use disk. The LVM is applied to the partition that is created for Ubuntu
[09:16] <someHuman> iptable: ACPI?
[09:16] <raumin> i cant find option :'(
[09:17] <iptable> someHuman, the stuff that controls power and sleep modes. acpi or apic, one of those
[09:17] <TJ-> raumin: The "manual" or "advanced" or "something different" route
[09:17] <someHuman> iptable: Ah ok.
[09:17] <someHuman> What does the acronym stand for though?
[09:18] <TJ-> Advanced Control and Power Interface
[09:18] <wols_> someHuman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acpi
[09:18] <ZuPLaDA> Oh dang
[09:18] <TJ-> s/Control/Configuration/
[09:18] <raumin> sorry but i dont see options for LVM...
[09:19] <gaet> ciao
[09:19] <ZuPLaDA> Yiy
[09:19] <gaet> !list
[09:19] <TJ-> raumin: I think they were in the format option, but it is a while since I tested the 14.04 ubiquity installer
[09:19] <someHuman> iptable: http://imgur.com/KRuYseA
[09:19] <raumin> ok there is nothing in manual installation...
[09:20] <raumin> or format options
[09:20] <someHuman> I aborted it because I ran out of space already, pretty sure it was already recovering the virtualized Windows 7. If not, probably it's files.
[09:20] <someHuman> iptable: Where is the directory?
[09:21] <ZuPLaDA> Pls join #candymag a new channel for every1 ty
[09:21] <iptable> someHuman, dude, seriously
[09:21] <iptable> someHuman, look at hte screenshot you sent me, you will know whee the directory is. read
[09:21] <someHuman> iptable: I can't see it.
[09:22] <iptable> someHuman, whee it says it saved 127778 files in /home/recup_dir?
[09:22] <someHuman> Ah got it haha!
[09:22] <someHuman> I was in home directory haha. So I went into computers then found a lot of recup_dir's!
[09:23] <ZuPLaDA> Hehe
[09:23] <Grilka> Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables
[09:23] <iptable> Grilka, why?
[09:23] <iptable> it doesn't seem to mention anything I wouldn't know :/
[09:24] <Grilka> I was talking to someHuman
[09:24] <ZuPLaDA> :(
[09:24] <someHuman> iptable: Uhm, I don't see the videos.
[09:24] <Grilka> No offence
[09:25] <someHuman> I should've entered arguments in photorec.
[09:25] <iptable> Grilka, oh, ok. none taken, didn't see the point, sorry
[09:25] <iptable> someHuman, yes, you should have
[09:25] <Grilka> Anyway, anyone had issues with unity and nVidia driver on 13.10
[09:25] <iptable> someHuman, and you shouldn't have aborted it.
[09:25] <someHuman> I looked into it's man page and didn't find any instructions there lol.
[09:25] <someHuman> iptable: I ran out of space lol
[09:25] <someHuman> What do I do now with these files?
[09:26] <iptable> Grilka, I don't use unity, but I had to install nvidia driver from repos, not using the software manager for some reason.
[09:26] <someHuman> I probably need to rerun photorec
[09:26] <iptable> Grilka, apt-get install linux-headers build-essential ; apt-get install nvidia-... (apt-cache search nvidia to find the right one)
[09:26] <Yelu> raumin, not sure, but could you remove the partition (which you want for the ubuntu installation) under Windows?
[09:26] <someHuman> Shit!
[09:26] <someHuman> I recovered in / haha!
[09:27] <someHuman> I forgot that my / is bigger than /home haha!'
[09:27] <someHuman> Well shit!
[09:27] <someHuman> Should I delete the files?
[09:27] <Ben64> stop with the language
[09:27] <iptable> someHuman, ok, now pay attention and go do it properly.
[09:27] <someHuman> ok
[09:27] <raumin> why would i do that Yelu  ?
[09:27] <Grilka> I'm in Unity right now(which is running but slower than it should be), normally I use Lubuntu gui which is working very well.
[09:27] <someHuman> iptable: What do I do with the files?
[09:28] <TJ-> someHuman: recovery tools do not recover files, what they do is recover chains of allocation blocks and give each chain a unique name. Those chains may or *may not* represent a complete file, so then you have to check each one to see if it represents a valid file based on its contents.
[09:28] <k1l> Grilka: lubuntu is way more lightweight than unity. that is expected
[09:28] <someHuman> TJ-: Ah ok.
[09:28] <Yelu> raumin, as I told you (not sure). - The installer shows the LVM option for an empty disk (okay that's not an empty partition)
[09:29] <raumin> ah ok ! But after my fresh install of windows 7, there was no partition created, only free space and i couldnt use LVM too
[09:29] <Grilka> Yes I know, but I would like to know why the problem exists. I didn'thave any issues with Unity in 12.10
[09:30] <someHuman> Why can't I delete the recovered files?
[09:30] <iloverivi> help me please, my mobile broadband get disconnecting when i don't make connection in 15 minutes, what the problem?
[09:30] <TJ-> someHuman: Between the time that the files were originally deleted, and the recover is performed, the blocks used by those files were marked as *free space* and some may well have been re-used for temporary files as well as permanent data for new files or additions to existings files. Thousands of such re-uses of blocks could well have occurred before the disk was protected from further writes.
[09:30]  * iloverivi  help me please, my mobile broadband get disconnecting when i don't make connection in 15 minutes, what the problem?
[09:30] <Yelu> raumin, you might try to vreate an empty partition then (no file system) under Windows and see, if it shows the LVM option in the the installer
[09:31] <Yelu> ^create
[09:31] <raumin> yes, i'll try it
[09:31] <someHuman> TJ-: I am trying to delete the recovered files because I recovered from /
[09:31] <someHuman> Now I am trying to get rid of the recovered stuff, but I can;t.
[09:31] <someHuman> can't*
[09:31] <TJ-> someHuman: Does the system have more than one file-system (one for / and another for /home/) ?
[09:32] <someHuman> TJ-: Yup
[09:32] <iptable> someHuman, dude, really?
[09:32] <TJ-> someHuman: which file-system were the deleted files in?
[09:32] <iptable> someHuman, ever heard of rm -rf /home/the_dir ?
[09:32] <someHuman> TJ-: /home
[09:32] <someHuman> What does -rf mean?
[09:32] <someHuman> iptable: Dude sorry I'm a noob.
[09:32] <TJ-> someHuman: And now you're written files recovered from / file-system into the /home/ file-system, using the *free-space* there?
[09:32] <iptable> someHuman, recursive, force, i.e. recursive and do't ask, just do it.
[09:32] <Ben64> someHuman: the folder(s) are owned by root, so you need to use sudo to delete them
[09:33] <iptable> someHuman, linux has this awesome invention called manual pages, or in short man pages.
[09:33] <iptable> someHuman, type in: man rm
[09:34] <TJ-> someHuman: I suspect those recovered files from /, now in /home/ have over-written all the *free space* of /home/ which previously was the videos you were trying to recover
[09:34] <someHuman> How do I write in termina, erase everything in this dir except for 'names' ?
[09:34] <morpheus7> hello - is anyone using a command line reddit reader, i.e. cortex?
[09:34] <frozen_32> man pages are outdated, you want to use GNU Info instead
[09:34] <someHuman> With sudo privileges, like Ben64 said the files recovered are root owned.
[09:35] <iptable> someHuman, you don't.
[09:35] <someHuman> TJ-: Well god damn it!
[09:35] <someHuman> My mom's gonna kill me!
[09:35] <iptable> someHuman, seriously. To remove /home/recur_id, you would do: sudo rm -rf /home/recur_id
[09:35] <TJ-> someHuman: So time to sweat-talk your bro... and run like mad :)
[09:35] <iptable> TJ-, good point :P
[09:35] <someHuman> Fuck!
[09:35]  * TJ- coughs
[09:36] <iptable> no swearing on channels
[09:36] <someHuman> Faps
[09:36] <Ben64> someHuman: didn't i say like 5+ times to not write any data to the drive you want to recover from?
[09:36] <someHuman> Sorry
[09:36] <iptable> someHuman, did I as well? :D brilliant...
[09:36] <TJ-> someHuman: no worries, you can recover them still...
[09:36] <someHuman> How?
[09:36] <TJ-> someHuman: ... all you have to do is recreate the events, get everyone that was there to get dressed up again, and re-video it :)
[09:37] <someHuman> Yey I done it!
[09:37] <someHuman> TJ-: Genius!
[09:37] <iptable> :D
[09:38] <TJ-> Sounds like a good case for reduced computing privileges for someone, and not sharing profiles on the PC, too
[09:39] <anto> hi
[09:40] <piroux> TJ-: ok the copy works now
[09:44] <nicferrier> I've got dbus updating of servers to dnsmasq ... but it just stopped working.
[09:44] <nicferrier> the syslog shows that dnsmasq got the update and it says it started using the new servers
[09:44] <nicferrier> but dnsmasq behaviour doesn't change
[09:44] <nicferrier> very frustrating. was working yesterday
[09:44] <piroux> TJ-: i am looking in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ubiquity/trusty/files to find the source of success_command . how did do you find it ?
[09:48] <TJ-> piroux: "grep -rn "self\.success" * "
[09:48] <someHuman> iptable: I want to give all of the avail. space to my /home
[09:48] <piroux> ah ok you dled
[09:48] <someHuman>  /home is already full
[09:49] <TJ-> piroux: You'll find the method definition with "grep -rn "run_success_cmd" * ", which points to "ubiquity/frontend/base.py:431:    def run_success_cmd(self): "
[09:51] <someHuman> Hello?
[09:52] <someHuman> I need to give all of the avail. space in my drive to /home
[09:52] <someHuman> I know it's too much, but I just want to get this done now.
[09:52] <ikonia> someHuman: you'll need to resize from a livecd
[09:52] <someHuman> ikonia: What?
[09:52] <someHuman> ikonia: How about DISK?
[09:53] <ikonia> someHuman: do you have a current ubuntu install or is this a new install ?
[09:53] <someHuman> ikonia: It is installed.
[09:53] <ikonia> someHuman: ok, so you can't resize a disk while it's in use, so you will need to resize your disk (how you want) using live media like a livecd
[09:53] <someHuman> ikonia: Ah ok.
[09:53] <someHuman> ikonia: Thanks
[09:54] <iptable> someHuman, buy a bigger dirve. alternatively risk resizing the fs live. alternatively risk a bit less by booting from live CD and doing disk resize. alterntivaly backup data and reinstall.
[09:54] <iptable> someHuman, resize2fs and then parted on the one to shrink. then grow the other one with parted and resize2fs. have fun and use man pages and google for syntax.
[09:55] <Ben64> someHuman: are you still trying to recover data?
[09:55] <TJ-> someHuman: is this part of your attempts to recover data, or are you simply now extending the size of /home/ and forgetting about the lost files?
[09:55] <someHuman> Ben64: Yup
[09:55] <someHuman> TJ-: Still recovering
[09:55] <Ben64> then STOP WRITING TO IT ALREADY
[09:55] <ikonia> data is gone then if you are trying to resize
[09:56] <someHuman> ikonia: Shit?!
[09:56] <someHuman> I need those videos :(
[09:56] <Ben64> I do not know how to make it any clearer. the more you write to it the less likely you can recover. and stop using language for the 3rd time
[09:56] <iptable> someHuman, and stop swearing again!
[09:56] <ikonia> someHuman: no need for bad language
[09:56] <someHuman> Sorry
[09:56] <TJ-> someHuman: You *cannot* extend the existing /home/ !! We're told you, *any* more writes to that file-system destroy the lost data, and you already ran photorec which used up all *free space* on /home/, thereby over-writing every block of those deleted files, making them unrecoverable. They're gone, permanently.
[09:56] <iptable> someHuman, get another drive or something, come on. google etc. I gave you options that included external drives and told you how to do it. figure it out and stop writing to the drive you are trying to recover
[09:57] <Ben64> someHuman: where were the file(s)
[09:57] <iptable> someHuman, you used up ALL the space on /home using photorec? then the files are gone forever, sorry. it is your fault for running photorec o nthe wrong filesystem and you have to live with it.
[09:58] <iptable> Ben64, files were in /home FS. He ran recovery of / accidentally and put files in /home until /home was full. data is lost.
[09:58] <Ben64> iptable: if that is correct then yep, data is gone
[09:59] <someHuman> god damn it!
[09:59] <someHuman> Oh well, thanks guys!
[09:59] <iptable> someHuman, you have heard from at least 3 people now that the data is gone and from 4 peopel to use the correct language.
[10:00] <iptable> someHuman, couriosity question: what's your age?
[10:00] <TJ-> someHuman: The lesson here is, as with the original deletion of files, *think* before you do something destructive, and then *think* again
[10:00] <someHuman> 20
[10:00] <iptable> interesting
[10:00] <someHuman> Something's messing with my mind lately.
[10:00] <someHuman> :(
[10:00] <TJ-> Earwigs
[10:00] <someHuman> I've learned from this and thanks guys!
[10:01] <Ben64> hopefully you learn to listen to people, because you were told many times to not do what you did
[10:01] <Pheral> someHuman: just take some meth
[10:01] <Pheral> you'll feel better
[10:02] <Ben64> Pheral: that is not helpful
[10:02] <someHuman> Sorry I don't do drugs.
[10:02] <iptable> most of us don't. and wouldn't suggest it.
[10:02] <frozen_32> Ben64: Ubuntu needs more usable Administrative tools, rather than just CLI. Windows/Mac have excellent in-built GUI software for managing data and partitions
[10:03] <TJ-> who needs drugs when you've got Linux? :s
[10:03] <iptable> frozen_32, no. ubuntu has got gparted that will manage partitions and data
[10:03] <Ben64> frozen_32: command line works fine. everything doesn't need a pretty interface
[10:03] <rom1504> someHuman: yeah, you'd need to become someJunkie first
[10:03] <iptable> frozen_32, and a heck load of othher tools as well. So, linux already got GUI interfaces
[10:04] <someHuman> TJ-: Yup!
[10:04] <frozen_32> gparted isn't part of a default install though
[10:04]  * Yelu thinks the CLI is already a GUI (one can see it) ...
[10:05] <iptable> frozen_32, apt-get install gparted, or click on "Software manager" and double-click on "gparted"
[10:05] <iptable> really? it's quite simple.
[10:06] <frozen_32> Ubuntu is meant to be aimed at novices. Every other consumer-oriented OS comes with in-built tools, no extra install needed. If a newcomer searched online, they might be instructed to use an outdated CLI tool instead
[10:06] <iptable> frozen_32, note: gparted is a great tool that gives funcationality to average jo that goes beyond windows and is FREE! you would need to pay for partition magic on windows to get same functionality. and on linux, you perform 4 clicks iwth a mouse to install. how cool is that!
[10:07] <iptable> frozen_32, no, you go to software centre as novice, type in "partition" in search and it tells you most popular and best GUI tool is gparted. it is really quite simple. and REAL novices are best left WITHOUT such tools until the time comes they need them, no?
[10:07] <frozen_32> iptable: I disagree, and so would anyone other usability expert
[10:07] <iptable> a novice given GUI tools, WILL attempt to use them to break their machine saying "I thought I could do this on linux"
[10:08] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7500884/
[10:08] <fishcooker> i have Linux sentral 2.6.32-41-generic-pae #94-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 6 17:08:20 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:08] <fishcooker> 10.04
[10:08] <iptable> frozen_32, you be your usability expert, I have a customer with 500k+ desktops on ubuntu and know what I am talking about. the less GUI tools ,the less they break things.
[10:08] <doranvm> iptable: You know you could just boot windows from a live usb and use its built-in partitioning tools: But I agree, most people don't know how to use Windows :-)
[10:09] <iptable> windows built-in tools cannot handle non-windows partitions and resize them without data loss doranvm
[10:09] <iptable> doranvm, you could boot gparted distro from live CD/USB and use gparted as well, don't see point
[10:09] <doranvm> iptable: True but there's free tools for that too.
[10:10] <iptable> doranvm, but yeah, don't give novices tools they are not comforatble with.
[10:10] <doranvm> iptable: I just disagree with you saying one would NEED to pay to do that on windows
[10:10] <iptable> oh well, if there are free tools nowadays, that's ok. I come from windows xp sp1 times when I last used that
[10:11] <iptable> still, give a user a tool, they will click on it at some point. I know, I got a novice wife. She is best without these tools. users who are looking for such tool, will easily find it in software centre
[10:11] <iptable> anyways, agreed then, move on :P
[10:11] <rickypop> Hi people
[10:11] <rickypop> one questions?
[10:11] <iptable> fishcooker, apt-get update; apt-get install postgresql
[10:12] <doranvm> The software center is pretty a good actually, it keeps a lot of the shovelware out
[10:12] <iptable> rickypop, you just asked it :D
[10:12] <iptable> doranvm, agreed. I tell people to use either ubuntu software centre or linux mint software centre and it is damn good for typical user.
[10:13] <doranvm> it's broken on crouton though , we can't use it :( that really sucks
[10:13] <rickypop> is it possible to install dual boot of Windows (program files) and Ubuntu (root) in 120GB SSD, while making use of a secondary HDD for Home folders and documents, THANK YOU!
[10:13] <fishcooker> should i  post the same error iptable?
[10:13] <doranvm> rickypop: Yes, they will both fit happily and can be configured that way
[10:13] <iptable> fishcooker, no, I'm good. apt-get purge postgresql-8.4 postgresql postgresql-contrib-8.4 postgresql-contrib to remove and then install again after running update
[10:14] <rickypop> doranvm,  thanks! so I should be enough with configuring two logical partitions in the SSD
[10:14] <doranvm> rickypop: There's some useful guides for doing that on the ubuntu webite/wiki, no doubt someone here knows the ubottu trigger
[10:14] <doranvm> rickypop: which windows is it, and is the machine EFI?
[10:14] <rickypop> doranvm,  no just a Win7
[10:14] <iptable> rickypop, depends. you can create boot partitions for windows and linux on ssh, but you still need separate partitions on the other drive for home for linux and windows
[10:15] <iptable> rickypop, alternative woluld be to have ext4 /home on second drive and install ext drivers for windows, but not recommended as these don't suppor journaling
[10:15] <doranvm> rickypop: Install Win7 first, ubuntu will give you the option to install alongside it. It can resize the win partition, or you can jsut create it smaller when you install windows
[10:15] <doranvm> doranvm: I would create a 3rd partition for data, if you want windows to be able to read it
[10:16] <rickypop> iptable, thank you. My configuration will be. In the SSD: two logical partitions one NTFS and another ext4, same in the HDD
[10:16] <fishcooker> i've do purge then install
[10:16] <fishcooker> but same problem
[10:16] <fishcooker> where is the log of apt-get?
[10:16] <iptable> rickypop, no. on SSH to Primary Partitions one NTFS and one ext4. on HDD put that as well yes. that will work a treat. install windoz first and ubuntu second, it will make sure you have boot choice of OS when booting.
[10:16] <rickypop> doranvm,  I see what you mean
[10:16] <doranvm> rickypop: Be aware that you can't turn off swap in Windows 7 and it will swap even if it isnt out of memory. This affects your SSD life.
[10:17] <iptable> doranvm, rickypop SSDs nowadays have such a long life, that it shouldn't be a problem really. Worst case is you will not be able to write to SSD and will have to copy to another, SSDs don't just die, they run out of writes.
[10:17] <rickypop> doranvm,  hmm... i see, good point
[10:17] <doranvm> rickypop: Although we call it 'paging' on windows, but it's basically the same as swap only it's badly implemented
[10:18] <iptable> haha, true
[10:18] <doranvm> rickypop: What you should do is over provision your SSD, even on Linux, and make sure TRIM is installed. See the Linux SSD guide.
[10:18] <iptable> fishcooker, grep dpkg /var/log/*
[10:18] <iptable> doranvm, you are overengineering it
[10:18] <rickypop> iptable, so the best would be to create two primary partitions within the SSD and the HDD
[10:18] <rickypop> doranvm, thanks! I will have a look at it
[10:19] <fishcooker> should i take postgres from ppa
[10:19] <iptable> rickypop, just install as you intended and see what happens. 2 partitions on each drive, NTFS+ext4, data on HDD if you wish and OS on SSD. if you find windows paging a lot, move page file to HDD if possible.
[10:19] <fishcooker> iptable:
[10:19] <iptable> fishcooker, is 10.04 still supported?
[10:19] <fishcooker> i think not
[10:19] <fishcooker> should i upgrade?
[10:19] <iptable> fishcooker, that explains a lot. yes you should
[10:20] <rickypop> iptable, I see, very clear dude THANKS!
[10:20] <fishcooker> i should take the risk ..
[10:20] <iptable> fishcooker, go for 14.04, it's LTS (long term support), with I think 5 years on desktop and 7 on serer, or something silly like that.
[10:20] <fishcooker> this is production box
[10:20] <fishcooker> and this box is vpn
[10:20] <fishcooker> how to minimal the risk
[10:20] <fishcooker> iptable:
[10:20] <iptable> fishcooker, deploy first on another machine t oswap it?
[10:20] <asd_> hi
[10:21] <iptable> fishcooker, then deploy on first machine after test and swap back
[10:21] <doranvm> rickypop: Don't forget the extr 100 MB partiion win 7 needs to boot off. You can avoid that by installing Win 7 manually using the command line installer, but no-one knows how to do that :-)
[10:21] <iptable> fishcooker, also, look at LXC containers once you are on 14.04. they provide nice isolation for software etc. do NOT attempt to 10.04 with LXC
[10:21] <asd_> mv: cannot stat 'srcds/scripts/client_precache.txt': No such file or directory
[10:21] <asd_> mv: cannot stat 'srcds/scripts/objects.txt': No such file or directory
[10:21] <asd_> mv: cannot stat 'srcds/scripts/tf_weapon_*': No such file or directory
[10:21] <asd_> [13:55:59] loading server...
[10:21] <asd_> help to clean the script error
[10:21] <doranvm> rickypop: However I had to do it on a crappy laptop that had a hybrid SSD and the bios would ONLY boot from the SSD, whch wouldnt fit windows ...
[10:22] <rickypop> doranvm,  cool! I didn't now have a clue about it
[10:22] <asd_> рудз ьу
[10:22] <asd_>  help
[10:22] <iptable> doranvm, good point. rickypop on SSD do this: partition 1. 200MB - linux /boot, 2. windows partition, 3. linux / partition.
[10:22] <someHuman> iptable: Hey guys! I think I just destroyed my flash drive haha!
[10:22] <iptable> that will make it work
[10:22] <someHuman> I was trying to format is via DISK.
[10:22] <asd_> idiots
[10:22] <iptable> someHuman, formatting drives does not destroy them
[10:22] <asd_> эй педики
[10:22] <asd_> есть кто толковый
[10:23] <iptable> asd_, english?
[10:23] <doranvm> rickypop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:23] <fishcooker> look 14.04 promising
[10:23] <fishcooker> iptable:
[10:23] <bazhang> !ru | asd_
[10:23] <someHuman> Well, why the f wouldn't DISK show like some progress bar? Like at least let me know that something's happening. I probably removed the flash when it was formatting.
[10:23] <iptable> fishcooker, yes, I'm running it on production. it's damn good
[10:23] <rickypop> doranvm,  THANKS!
[10:23] <someHuman> Here's the error I get http://imgur.com/GahZtEE
[10:23] <iptable> someHuman, 1. put flash disk in, 2. start gparted, 3. use the nice GUI tool
[10:24] <iptable> someHuman, or try again and wait this time. alternatively that USB drive might be already dead
[10:24] <rickypop> see you guys, cheers!
[10:25] <someHuman> iptable: Well, I think it's time I swear again. ;)
[10:25] <asd_> я люблю ваших мам
[10:25] <someHuman> god ************ !
[10:25] <someHuman> tits!
[10:25] <iptable> someHuman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Memory_wear
[10:25] <piliman974> Hi
[10:25] <iptable> someHuman, you are not showing the appropriate behavioural level though...
[10:25] <asd_> привет лох
[10:25] <iptable> piliman974, Hi
[10:25] <bazhang> someHuman, stop the cursing
[10:26] <iptable> bazhang, he's been told by 5 people now that you are on the list :)
[10:26] <bazhang> asd_, english here , #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[10:26] <doranvm> Meanwhile I am trying to build transmission-headless on an older Ubuntu and it's not building ... *sigh*
[10:26] <asd_> нет
[10:26] <asd_> я не такой
[10:26] <someHuman> Sorry
[10:27] <someHuman> Well people got to go now!
[10:27] <someHuman> Thanks!
[10:27] <AkaZuko> hi
[10:27] <iptable> thanks bazhang
[10:36] <Guest96499> hallo
[10:39] <AkaZuko> how to use google speech recogntion api with a python program
[10:39] <AkaZuko> ?
[10:40] <doranvm> what is a tar.xz? That's new to me
[10:40] <Pheral> doranvm: it's similar to a .zip file
[10:40] <doranvm> AkaZuko: #python is a very very good channel for that.
[10:40] <doranvm> Pheral: As in, I know what a tar.gz, but what is the difference with xz?
[10:41] <AkaZuko> thanks
[10:41] <Pheral> compressed with difference things
[10:42] <Diplomat> hey guys, im having a problm with physical volume.. im getting this error
[10:42] <Diplomat> Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[10:42] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  When I open a website where the server has changed its IP address recently the browser still tries to get the pages from the old server. dig and host both return the new address. Any idea what’s happening here?
[10:42] <Diplomat> trying to do pvcreate /dev/sdb
[10:43] <doranvm> Pheral: Ah sorted, different flag to unpack
[10:43] <iptable> vlt: caching
[10:44] <iptable> vlt, clear firefox cache (somewhere in it's peferences) and try again.
[10:45] <Sohron> i don't even use cache in firefox
[10:45] <Diplomat> also for some reason im not able to use gparted to delete existing partition and make a new one
[10:45] <Diplomat> because it's saying that it's in use
[10:45] <Sohron> it's disturbin web development
[10:45] <Diplomat> but it's not..
[10:45] <iptable> Sohron, it is there by default and for certain websites with lots of static content makes sense on slower connections
[10:45] <iptable> Diplomat, mount
[10:46] <vlt> iptable: How long will Firefox fool me before it checks whether maybe the IP address has changed? And why does it try to load the pages from the old server when they are cached?
[10:46] <Sohron> iptable: yes, i understand that, it's just me and other people making web pages who don't want cache
[10:46] <iptable> Diplomat, check if mount shows that partition is in use. then open nautilus and check if it claims that it's mounted (you have a triangle for umount in the left-hand pane). Once done, try again
[10:46] <iptable> Diplomat, also, there is an option in gparted to do umount from there. and on top of that, you got lsof tool to find what is using the partition
[10:47] <iptable> Sohron, ah, ok.
[10:47] <iptable> vlt: firefox does not fool you. it's the websites and their webpage headers
[10:47] <Diplomat> iptable: http://puu.sh/8WnvI.png
[10:47] <iptable> vlt: ask the website developers
[10:47] <iptable> Diplomat, which partition?
[10:48] <doranvm> Sohron: ISP caching is even more of a headache, at least you can turn off firefox's
[10:48] <Diplomat> iptable: what do you mean? sorry im not good with ubuntu yet
[10:48] <vlt> iptable: What in the headers could let firefox reload a page from an old server IP address?
[10:48] <iptable> Diplomat, which partition are you trying to delete?
[10:49] <Diplomat> well right now gparted shows me that my new disk doesnt have any partitions
[10:49] <Diplomat> but when im trying to create one partition.. ~460gb ext2, primary
[10:49] <Diplomat> it gives  me an error that disk might be in use
[10:50] <Diplomat> please check : http://puu.sh/8WnCC.png
[10:50] <bazhang> Diplomat, are you trying to use gparted on a running system, ie not a livecd?
[10:50] <iptable> Diplomat, open the terminal, and type in: sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1
[10:51] <iptable> bazhang, that's a secondary drive though, so it's ok
[10:51] <Diplomat> root@os-ctrl:~# mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1
[10:51] <Diplomat> mke2fs 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
[10:51] <Diplomat> ./dev/sdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[10:51] <iptable> vlt, eg cache expirty time set on a page which uses dynamic content and/or frames
[10:51] <doranvm> Oh great: `make install` works but `checkinstall` doesn't
[10:51] <iptable> vlt, that page gets cached. and it tries to load from old IP. you need new page
[10:52] <Diplomat> when im doing fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/9BuaW95E
[10:53] <iptable> Diplomat, is the drive part of LVM or RAID (or was)?
[10:54] <Diplomat> hmmm.. my main disk uses lvm, but new one shouldnt.. or hmm
[10:54] <Diplomat> i think it was  in lvm
[10:54] <iptable> Diplomat, looking at fdisk, I will guess that drive was probably part of LVM at some point. and now LVM is hugging it
[10:54] <Diplomat> so i have to remove it from the lvm ?
[10:54] <iptable> Diplomat, 2 options: either use lv tools to make it forget to reboot into live CD and perform operation there. that will make LV forget it :P
[10:55] <Diplomat> hmm
[10:55] <Diplomat> i dont have a live cd :D i have ubuntu server image only
[10:56] <iptable> Diplomat, it's been some time since I last played with LVM, you will hae to google exact commands. Hint: copy-paste your error into google. lots of tips, command and solutions
[10:56] <Diplomat> yup
[10:56] <Diplomat> lol
[10:57] <Diplomat> pvdisplay shows that sdb1 is in a physical volume
[10:57] <bazhang> !lvm | Diplomat
[10:57] <Diplomat> so i need to get rid of it
[10:59] <iptable> Diplomat, yup, so we found root cause. now you just need the right command to remove (pvchange or something. pv{tab tab} :P)
[11:00] <Diplomat> woohoo
[11:00] <Diplomat> worked
[11:00] <iptable> congrats
[11:01] <Diplomat> i had to remove lvg and then it worked
[11:01] <Diplomat> thanks for your help guys :)
[11:01] <iptable> no probs
[11:03] <plofkat> hi, anybody have any experience getting xrandr working with multiple GPUs and screens?
[11:04] <Diplomat> hmm.. strange
[11:04] <Diplomat> root@os-ctrl:~# df -h /dev/sdb1
[11:04] <Diplomat> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[11:04] <Diplomat> udev            3.9G  4.0K  3.9G   1% /dev
[11:04] <Diplomat> it should be ~500gb
[11:04] <plofkat> i can get it working with xinerama, but that totally breaks randr
[11:05] <Diplomat> naw, it should be 465.76GB and 7.38GB used
[11:07] <joelmo> hello, I put an upstart config under this dir ~/.config/upstart/ but when i try to start it with initctl it says the config cant be found
[11:08] <joelmo> im on ubuntu 14.04
[11:11] <iptable> Diplomat, the output you gave me is for /dev NOT for /dev/sdb1
[11:11] <iptable> Diplomat, that's the wrong mount
[11:11] <iptable> Diplomat, DID you mount it before df?
[11:13] <Diplomat> hm
[11:16] <Diplomat> do i do like mount /disk /dir
[11:16] <iptable> Diplomat, mount it, then df -h
[11:16] <Diplomat> ?
[11:16] <iptable> yes
[11:16] <iptable> mount /dev/sdb1 /some/dir/you/already/created
[11:17] <Diplomat> i can still access it via /dev/sdb1 ?
[11:17] <Diplomat> ah it worked
[11:17] <Diplomat> :P
[11:17] <Diplomat> thanks lol
[11:22] <joelmo> do i need to enable session jobs somehow in upstart to make them wok
[11:22] <joelmo> work*
[11:24] <iptable> Diplomat, no problem. and you access the drive via mount, NOT the device itself.
[11:27] <KGM70> o/
[11:27] <doranvm> How do I install something as a service on Ubuntu? WHat to put in rc.d etc?
[11:28] <stobix_> Heh. I just accidentally reset the mysql password for the debian-maintenance user. I imagine I've broken some deep ubuntu magic now. How can i fix this?
[11:28] <Sohron> doranvm: don't the init scripts go to /etc/init.d ?
[11:29] <doranvm> Sohron: Don't know! What do I do?
[11:29] <compdoc> doranvm, I think its better to look at scripts in either /etc/init  or /etc/init.d
[11:32] <smoke_> what are other alternatives to gnome/kde?
[11:32] <smoke_> i used to use fluxbox, but i think thats really really old..
[11:32] <ikonia> sometux: many desktop options available, a lot come with livecd's have a google and consider trying some out
[11:32] <doranvm> smoke_: err.. Unity?
[11:33] <smoke_> sorry i'll google and do some more research.
[11:34] <stobix_> smoke_: xmonad, xfce, wmii, awesome, ratpoison, openbox, larswm, evilwm, windowmaker, enlightenment… :)
[11:34]  * stobix_ uses xmonad right now. It's a (functional) programmers' dream.
[11:35] <stobix_> 's
[11:35] <stobix_> (Meh. English.)
[11:35] <plofkat> the only two that work on my system is openbox and lxde
[11:35] <smoke_> i remeber enlightment when it first came out with that osx style launcher
[11:35] <compdoc> smoke, I like Mate, because you can install any gnome program
[11:35] <smoke_> yeah im lookinig into openbox
[11:35]  * stobix_ used to use openbox all the time. Then I got a Haskell in my knee.
[11:36] <compdoc> a Haskell?
[11:36] <plofkat> i realy wanted to use xmonad, but it simply does not work on my setup
[11:36] <doranvm> a haskell in the knee is better than a monad in the gonad
[11:36] <stobix_> smoke_: the config file for openbox is quite nice, imho. You have a lot of options for setting up keybindings/mouse bindings and such.
[11:36] <plofkat> i thinx xinerame breaks it
[11:36] <stobix_> doranvm: :D
[11:37] <stobix_> plofkat: no, it's the other way around. If you want to handle two screens, xinerama is the way to go in xmonad.
[11:37] <plofkat> stobix_, i have six screens
[11:37] <stobix_> plofkat: do you get any errors spewed out somewhere? Maybe the people at #xmonad at freenode can help?
[11:38] <stobix_> plofkat: wow. Nice. Do want.
[11:38] <plofkat> no errors, after login desktop never loads
[11:38] <stobix_> plofkat: Hm, irritating.
[11:39] <plofkat> stobix_, you have no ides :P every few months i try to fix it
[11:39] <stobix_> plofkat: I wonder if someone did some stupid assumption of max # of screens somewhere in the programming. (Which would really surprise me in a Haskell setting…)
[11:39] <stobix_> plofkat: :)
[11:40] <plofkat> stobix_, it does the same with unity and gnome
[11:40] <stobix_> plofkat: How did you manage to get six screens btw? Three grahics cards?
[11:40]  * stobix_ is too hardware ignorant for his own good…
[11:40] <smoke_> any input on i3?
[11:41] <plofkat> stobix_, yes, three nvidia gt 640 cards
[11:41] <stobix_> plofkat: hm, might be some deeper problem then. Some part of X that isn't as it should be. Well, I guess you've already thought all those thoghts, though.
[11:41] <stobix_> plofkat: ah, nice.
[11:42]  * stobix_ 'd like to have at least three. Two gets kinda crammed when programming sometimes.
[11:42] <Sohron> ugh, one screen for documentation and another for editor/ide
[11:42] <plofkat> stobix_, six is awesome for coding.
[11:42] <plofkat> you can see everything at once
[11:43] <Sohron> my friend has three 500€ screens and he's a web developer
[11:43] <stobix_> Sohron: try editing > 6 large files simultaneously in such a setup.
[11:43] <plofkat> layout of the database, documentation, terminals to monitor servers
[11:43] <stobix_> plofkat: Yeah, it sounds really nice.
[11:43] <Sohron> stobix_: well, ides and komodo-edit have tabs
[11:44] <stobix_> Sohron: yeah, but I want to see all the entry points at the same time.
[11:44] <Sohron> okay
[11:44] <plofkat> i was on komodo for long time, untill i tried sublime
[11:44] <Sohron> oh
[11:44]  * stobix_ has never really left vim
[11:45] <plofkat> give sublime a shot, if you do web development
[11:45] <wybe> Sublime is awesome and fast as hell
[11:45] <TJ-> plofkat: how have you got X configured?
[11:45] <rahul___> sublime is too good..
[11:45]  * TJ- also runs six monitors over 3 GPUs
[11:46] <stobix_> speaking of which, time to get back to work. If you ever get xmonad to work, plofkat, please do boast about it in a blog somewhere so I can google it when I manage to have a similar setup. ;)
[11:46] <plofkat> TJ-, 6 separate x screens with xinirama enabled
[11:47] <plofkat> stobix_, will do
[11:47] <TJ-> plofkat: I found that xinerama had many (unacceptable) issues so I run 3 X screens, one per GPU
[11:48] <plofkat> TJ-, can you drag windows from one screen to another?
[11:49] <TJ-> plofkat: No, and I don't want to. I tried xinerama but that loses most acceleration support and has many other issues
[11:51] <plofkat> TJ-, that will make things a bit harder... but you are right... xinerama is realy not usefull
[11:51] <plofkat> hardware acceleration would be nice for a change
[11:53] <bugtraq> hello
[11:53] <bugtraq> any one here
[11:53] <nichlas> no, noone here
[11:53] <bugtraq> hy nichlas
[11:54] <skylto> i'm here
[11:54] <bugtraq> welcome
[11:55] <skylto> thank u
[11:55] <plofkat> TJ-, maybe wayland will solve the problem, but I do not want to get my hopes up
[11:55] <TJ-> plofkat: I use nvidia drivers, with the laptop's 8600M GT and an external Quadro NVS420
[11:57] <bugtraq> can i ask  about something ?
[11:57] <plofkat> TJ-, i will give it a shot, thanks
[11:58] <plofkat> anything is better than going back to windows after 6 years XD
[11:59] <ubuntu12133> bored, any suggestions
[12:00] <bugtraq> plofkat can i ask u plz i have problem in conky i am using bugtraq 2 .?
[12:01] <bugtraq> no one here !!
[12:02] <plofkat> bugtraq, i am not really very familiar with conky
[12:02] <philinux> bugtraq;~ what conky problem
[12:03] <wols_> bugtraq: what has bugtraq to do with ubuntu?
[12:04] <bugtraq> when i start it all the other services starting normal but the option service not start i don't know why ?
[12:05] <liuchong> any one know that how to let ubuntu unity do not group same programs when I switch with "Alt+Tab"
[12:05] <liuchong> thanks very much
[12:05] <philinux> bugtraq;~ unfortunatley this i an ubuntu only irc channel
[12:06] <liuchong> any one knows that?
[12:07] <bugtraq> ok thank u all
[12:07] <philinux> liuchong;~ most stuff in unity is hard coded
[12:07] <philinux> bugtraq;~ try the bugtraq forums they may know
[12:07] <bugtraq> is there bugtraq channel
[12:07] <bugtraq> ?
[12:08] <bugtraq> ok philinux thnks
[12:08] <liuchong> really hard to swich programs
[12:08] <philinux> bugtraq;~ http://forum.bugtraq-team.com/
[12:08] <liuchong> philinux, so, I cannot change that?
[12:09] <liuchong> \liuchong
[12:11] <philinux> liuchong;~ have a look at some of the hits here. https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=unity+alt+tab+behaviour&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&ei=KOl9U4iiGqaa1AX08ICwAw
[12:11] <liuchong> ok, thanks let me try
[12:11] <philinux> liuchong;~ seems a lot of peeps have issues with alt tab
[12:15] <mac_15> does anyone have with ubuntu 14.04 problems with tethering (driver closed source)?
[12:24] <liuchong> it works, thanks
[12:24] <liuchong> thanks philinux
[12:37] <afrokarlsson> hello:)
[12:37] <afrokarlsson> how are you?
[12:38] <afrokarlsson> can you tell me some chat channel
[12:39] <linuxreign> I'm fine thank you Afrokarlsson
[12:40] <george100> how to create shortcut to a folder in ubuntu 12.10?
[12:41] <Suckervi1le> Hi. I'm trying to configure three separate corosync clusters in the same VLAN under 12.04 LTS, but corosync ignores the configured mcastaddr and mcastport in corosync.conf and binds to 239.192.210.115:5405 instead. any idea why or how to fix this?
[12:44] <philinux> afrokarlsson;~ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[12:45] <philinux> afrokarlsson;~ check out that list ^^^
[12:46] <ozbrk> hi guys I need help for couple of thing on my ubuntu. Firtst thing is may not be releated with ubuntu but still I need help on your professionality. The issue is an advertise pop-up screen which is always shows on any browser on my tablet or destop either and I don't know what should I do to remove that annony thing. Another thing is I can't take screenshots there is an error message says ''File cannot be created please choose a diffe
[12:49] <philinux> ozbrk;~ have you adblock plus installed for firefox
[12:49] <joelmo> I am trying to create a upstart config that starts some ssh tunnels to a server I normally connect to with a key file, but when upstart tries to start this job i am asked for password, I suppose this can have something to do with the ssh-agent, do you know how to fix this?
[12:49] <philinux> ozbrk;~ also clear history and cache
[12:50] <ozbrk> philinux: no I don't but I don't think it slove the issue because it shows on my tablets web browser too
[12:53] <ozbrk> I think somethig releated with an appmarket called mobogenie
[12:53] <rooted> am trying to write on my microSD can , its seems i cannot write any images using 'dd' dd: writing to ‘/dev/sdb1’: Operation not permitted
[12:53] <rooted> any hint ?
[12:53] <joelmo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/j9mEwiYC
[12:53] <joelmo> i get this in the log
[12:54] <trndr> rooted, check the microSD lock switch
[12:55] <Rory> joelmo: chmod 600 /home/joelmo/.ssh/config
[12:56] <rooted> trndr its not locked.
[12:56] <mahesh_> rahul
[12:56] <joelmo> Rory: now upstart want a passphrase for the config file
[12:58] <trndr> rooted, then I'm lost to why sudo shouldn't be able to dd to sdb1
[12:58] <TJ-> rooted: You're running 'dd' as root, via sudo?
[12:59] <rooted> TJ- maybe its need a format ? its a FAT32 format.
[12:59] <trndr> rooted, dd dosen't care, it just writes
[13:00] <TJ-> rooted: If you're writing directly to a block device, then any file-system there will be over-written, so be careful
[13:00] <ozbrk> try -I it will overwrite
[13:01] <ozbrk> TJ is right by the way be carreful
[13:01] <TJ-> rooted: If you're sure you want to write to the partition /dev/sdb1, and you're using 'sudo dd ...', and it fails, then that suggests the block device is in read-only mode. You might find clues about if that is the case by looking at the log-files, specifically "/var/log/kern.log" when you run the 'dd' command
[13:03] <TJ-> rooted:  is the microSD connected via a USB SD-card adapter?
[13:03] <rooted> kernel: [608474.124445] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[13:03] <rooted> no laptop built-in SD reader
[13:04] <TJ-> rooted: OK, but connected via the USB I'd guess (internally)... if it were a true mmc reader the block device would be /dev/mmcblockXp1
[13:05] <rooted> using :  sudo dd if=BBB_JB_Android_3_8_13.img.bz2 of=/dev/sdb1
[13:05] <rooted> should i extract the .bz2 file first ?
[13:05] <Whitor>  /join #cisco
[13:05] <Whitor> woops
[13:07] <TJ-> rooted: If the source image is a compressed archive, why are you writing it to a raw block device?
[13:08] <rooted> TJ- thats what i did , is from the instruction in elinux guide.
[13:08] <TJ-> rooted: I think you need to re-read the instructions here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Android#Linux_SD_Card_Writing
[13:08] <Whitor> How well does Ubuntu 14.04 handle being moved from one piece of hardware to another?  The processors are a similar vintage and architecture, but the hardware is very different. (one laptop to another)
[13:09] <rooted> true. just did :p
[13:09] <DamienCassou> hi
[13:10] <TJ-> rooted: first: it shows how to uncompress the image, second: it specifies writing the image to /dev/sdX *not* /dev/sdX1 ... in other words, writing the image starting from sector 0 of the SDcard, not from the first sector of the first partition (which isn't the device's sector 0)
[13:10] <DamienCassou> when installing a package from a PPA, I get a dpkg error (code 1) and no further information in the terminal. How can I debug that please?
[13:10] <TJ-> DamienCassou: what command are you issuing?
[13:10]  * rooted feels like a monkey.
[13:11]  * TJ- hands out the bananas :)
[13:11] <rooted> Lol.
[13:12] <DamienCassou> TJ-: apt-get install xxx
[13:12] <trndr> Whitor, quite well, especially if you haven't installed propriatarty gfx drivers
[13:13] <TJ-> DamienCassou: You'll need to pastebin the entire command and the output for us to help diagnose the issue
[13:13] <DamienCassou> TJ-: ok. But I have to manually copy/paste because I work on a virtualbox VM without strong integration into host
[13:14] <Whitor> trndr, thanks.  I suppose I should just try it...
[13:14] <Ilyes512> hi guys... i am stuck on thins for a while. I created a new user with password and a home directory in var/www/somefolder
[13:14] <Ilyes512> but I cant sftp to it. I can however just ssh in
[13:14] <rooted> extracted the image, same problem
[13:16] <DamienCassou> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/Z4LE1RyH
[13:17] <Skaag_> can someone remind me which package to install to allow 32bit binaries to function on a 64bit system?
[13:17] <DamienCassou> Skaag_: what is the version of your system?
[13:18] <Skaag_> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty)
[13:18] <DamienCassou> Skaag_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[13:19] <Skaag_> thanks!
[13:19] <rom1504> Skaag_: http://askubuntu.com/a/470302/231753
[13:19] <rom1504> sudo apt-get install yourlib:i386
[13:20] <TJ-> DamienCassou: that looks to me as if the package you're installing has a bug in it's installation script
[13:20] <TJ-> DamienCassou: Best to report it to the PPA maintainer
[13:20] <Skaag_> when I ldd the 32bit binary it says: not a dynamic executable
[13:20] <Skaag_> so I don't know what libraries it needs
[13:20] <TJ-> Skaag_: none ... statically linked
[13:21] <Ringo__Star> Do you want more visits to your web site for free? Check out te4everyone at  http://www.te4everyone.com/index.php?ref=20
[13:21] <DamienCassou> TJ-: it is me :-)
[13:21] <Skaag_> I had this working on the previous install of the OS
[13:22] <Skaag_> it crashed, I restored the data from backups, but this binary no longer works
[13:22] <TJ-> DamienCassou: Yay... then you can fix it :)
[13:22] <DamienCassou> TJ-: however, the package is *very* simple and works on a more recent version of Ubuntu
[13:22] <TJ-> DamienCassou: Is it the postinst script?
[13:22] <DamienCassou> TJ-: how can I find the problem?
[13:22] <DamienCassou> TJ-: I don't have any manually written postinst script.https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-ubuntu/tree/master/pharo-sources-files
[13:23] <rom1504> Skaag_: ldd it on a 32 bit machine
[13:23] <trndr> rooted, cat /proc/partitions to make sure it is sdb, then dd ... of=/dev/sdb #no partition number
[13:24] <TJ-> DamienCassou: I don't see a "pharo-sources-files" in that PPA
[13:24] <skinux> I've asked a few times before about Ubuntu complaining about low disk space. keeps decreasing from 1.1GB, when I've removed much more software than I've installed.
[13:24] <rooted> trdr tbd is read-only , tdb1 is empty
[13:24] <rom1504> Skaag_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16807560/ldd-doesnt-work-on-dynamically-linked-binary , try readelf -d  yourprogram
[13:24] <skinux> In fact, it went from saying under 1.1G one day to saying 1.1G the next day when I hadn't added or removed anything.
[13:24] <DamienCassou> TJ-: https://launchpad.net/~pharo/+archive/unstable/+packages
[13:25] <skinux> I've already run bleachbit to remove caches and historys
[13:27] <Skaag_> ok I ldd'd on a 32bit system, it needs linux-gate.so.1, libc, and ld-linux
[13:27] <bieb> Is there a list somewhere of the differences between 14.04 lts desktop and server? or is it just the server has less "programs" and no gui by default install?
[13:28] <Skaag_> ok cool, installing libc6:i386 fixed it
[13:28] <TJ-> DamienCassou: thanks. Where did you get the "debian/rules" template from?
[13:28] <rooted> great... :( now its not mounting special thanks to gnome-disks
[13:29] <DamienCassou> TJ-: you mean https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-ubuntu/blob/master/pharo-sources-files/pharo-sources-files/debian/rules ?
[13:29] <DamienCassou> TJ-: that's the standard from dh_make
[13:29] <trndr> rooted, you dont want it mounted when using dd to main block
[13:29] <TJ-> DamienCassou: testing the package here, bear with me
[13:30] <DamienCassou> TJ-: thank you very much
[13:30] <rooted> trndr , now its not showing of there is an sd card or not.
[13:31] <DamienCassou> TJ-: it does *not* work on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 32. It does work on Ubuntu 14.04
[13:31] <trndr> rooted, in /proc/partitions?
[13:32] <rooted> t knowing there is sdb
[13:33] <rooted> great my laptop now is hanging while using dd with knowing there is an sdb
[13:33] <TJ-> DamienCassou: have you done "sudo apt-get -o=Debug::RunScripts=True install pharo-sources-files" ? That shows what is being done by the scripts. My guess is, you've declared the package to use a debconf version more recent than those known by Ubuntu 10.04 and used a more recent facility, which causes the install to fail on 10.04
[13:33] <trndr> rooted, dd doesn't give indication of running
[13:33] <TJ-> rooted: not hanging... probably the USB writing is very slow and the system is blocking whilst waiting
[13:33] <rooted> no sdb in partitions
[13:34] <TJ-> rooted: check the "/var/log/kern.log", it is very likely the device has 'fallen' off the bus due to some error
[13:34] <rooted> ubuntu is not seaing any sdb
[13:36] <rooted> kernel: [609900.739159] usb 2-1.6: USB disconnect, device number 3
[13:36] <sprung> Hi. libsane broke my apt-get, here's my output, not quite sure what to do at this point https://gist.github.com/anonymous/66b75039f97b0d99e723
[13:36] <sprung> i'm running 14.04
[13:39] <Pricey> sprung: With not caring too much if my machine dies, I'd probably try moving the offending lib out the way and doing an -f install to see if that sorts it out.
[13:39] <DamienCassou> TJ-: the option Debug::RunScripts does not print more information
[13:39] <Mariofashion> Ciao
[13:39] <Mariofashion> !Lista
[13:39] <TJ-> DamienCassou: It does for me, that is strange
[13:40] <sprung> Pricey, that worked
[13:40] <TJ-> DamienCassou: on the 10.04 system do "man apt.conf" and search for "/Debug" and see if that option is available on that version of apt
[13:40] <sajjad> is this ubuntu support channel ?
[13:40] <skarufue> hello. I installed a fresh ubuntu-server 14.04 into a kvm container. afaik networking seems to be working just fine (i mainly tried the http requests apt-get does and they seem to work) but i get: "E: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)". i have no custom ppa's or did anythinf to sources.list. verbose error: http://ay.vc/5b.
[13:41] <Pricey> sprung: has the file been replaced?
[13:42] <sprung> Pricey, yes. now hplip is throwing errors on me though.
[13:42] <Pricey> sprung: 'yay'
[13:43] <skarufue> when i do apt-get update i get that error... DOH
[13:43] <sajjad> Hi, need some help here. I am not able to install vlc player or any audio or video player on ubuntu 14.04. It gives me error for unmet dependencies of some libs
[13:45] <Armadillos> sajjad: Can you paste the errors and link it to the channel?  Need more info.
[13:45] <sajjad> sure
[13:45] <sajjad> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:45] <sajjad> vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1) but 2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1 is to be installed
[13:45] <sajjad>      Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.19-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[13:45] <sajjad>      Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) but 2.5.2-1ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[13:45] <sajjad>      Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[13:45] <sajjad>      Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0) but 4:4.8.5+git192-g085f851+dfsg-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[13:45] <unopaste> sajjad you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:47] <Guest49396> question with the new 14.04
[13:47] <Guest49396> this is the first time i've seen this come up for my usb drive, what does this floppy disk symbol mean by my drive
[13:47] <Guest49396> http://i.imgur.com/dUCMYsH.png
[13:47] <Armadillos> sajjad: It looks like you're missing some very basic packages...
[13:47] <fivetwentysix> Is there like a really easy way to setup a multiple domains email server?
[13:47] <Mariofashion> Ciao
[13:47] <Fuchs> Guest49396: that does look like an SD card to me, not floppy
[13:47] <Mariofashion> !List
[13:48] <Fuchs> probably just showing that it is removable flash storage, such as SD cards or usb sticks
[13:48] <sajjad> yes seems like that
[13:48] <TJ-> Guest49396: If you look closely you'll see its a removable device icon, showing 2 devices, an SD card and a USB thumb drive behind
[13:48] <DamienCassou> TJ-: I can't find anything relevant except "pkgDPkgPM" and "pkgDPkgProgressReporting". The first one output some dpkg commands and exits successfully (???). The second one has no impact on output
[13:48] <Fuchs> sajjad: you don't happen to use any PPAs or other obscure external package repositories?
[13:48] <sajjad> i have ffmpeg installed on my system
[13:48] <sajjad> and it is working fine
[13:49] <Guest49396> why would my thumb drive have an SD card
[13:49] <afrokarlsson> sajjad are you from nigeria
[13:49] <TJ-> DamienCassou: OK... I think my initial theory is correct. You've using a debian standards version in your package which the dpk/apt on 10.04 do not understand because it is more recent
[13:49] <Armadillos> fivetwentysix: Hit up #ubuntu-server, you might get a better answer there :)
[13:49] <sajjad> these are the sources in apt/sources.list
[13:49] <Fuchs> Guest49396: it doesn't know whether it is a thumb drive or SD card, I guess. Or they don't distinguish between them. The icon just probably means "flash storage", which can be either a thumb drive or sd card
[13:49] <aaa801> So, my server isn't letting me login, giving me this, Server refused public-key signature despite accepting key
[13:49] <skarufue> fivetwentysix: really easy and mailserver is not compatible. will the server be reciving mail?
[13:49] <sajjad> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[13:49] <sajjad> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[13:49] <sajjad> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed multiverse main restricted universe
[13:49] <Guest49396> ohh okay, interesting
[13:49] <aaa801> also the ssh identifier seems to of changed
[13:49] <Guest49396> the device worked fine on windows
[13:50] <DamienCassou> TJ-: what can I do? Lower the compat ?
[13:50] <sl33k_> Firefox can't open any sites. Known issue?
[13:50] <Fuchs> Guest49396: and it doesn't work in Linux?
[13:50] <Guest49396> and my other usb drive had no indication
[13:50] <Guest49396> nah it's just i get that weird indication
[13:50] <Guest49396> with the drive in ubuntu
[13:50] <sl33k_> Using FF 29
[13:50] <Guest49396> still works
[13:50] <sajjad> and no i am not from nigeria
[13:50] <Fuchs> sajjad: only these? That seems to be lacking a lot of basic stuff. Can you put the whole file in a pastebin service?
[13:50] <Fuchs> Guest49396: then I'd say ignore it
[13:50] <afrokarlsson> sajjad but are you porn star?
[13:50] <rabbitnightmare> does anybody know where I can download Ubuntu Phone OS?
[13:51] <TJ-> DamienCassou: If you're lucky, that may work... try it and see :)
[13:51] <sajjad> alright
[13:51] <TJ-> DamienCassou: otherwise, you may have to maintain a separate package for 10.04
[13:52] <afrokarlsson> do you know international sluts like kobe tai, felecia and jill kelly?
[13:52] <DamienCassou> TJ-: ok, but what should be different in this package?
[13:52] <Fuchs> afrokarlsson: that doesn't sound terribly appropriate for that channel here.
[13:53] <afrokarlsson> give me channel where i can go
[13:53] <afrokarlsson> channellist not works
[13:53] <sajjad> yes that was not the whole file, sorry, and how do use the paste bin service, i am on Xchat
[13:53] <DamienCassou> TJ-: the compat level is not to blame because the 'ed' package that I can install on lucid has the same (7)
[13:53] <Fuchs> afrokarlsson: for that kind of thing: a different network, I'd say.
[13:53] <Fuchs> afrokarlsson: in general: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[13:54] <TeraJL> hi there, i have a kworker/0:2 using 100% of my first core even withou doing enything, with 12.04 LTS with updated kernel i did this http://askubuntu.com/questions/176565/why-does-kworker-cpu-usage-get-so-high/233947#233947 and it worked on GPE12 but now on ubuntu 14.04 it does not seem to be working
[13:54] <TeraJL> am i missing something?
[13:54] <Fuchs> sajjad: just open a pastebin service in a browser, paste the content there, this will give you an URL which you can paste here. Or use pastebinit
[13:54] <sajjad> ahhh, ok
[13:54] <Fuchs> sajjad: sudo apt-get install pastebinit     and then    pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:54] <Fuchs> sajjad: that should output an URL you can paste here
[13:54] <TeraJL> ps: the problem is on the same GPE
[13:55] <sajjad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7501520/
[13:55] <skarufue> ok ill ask more conform to here rules. when i apt-get update i get "E: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)". this is on ubuntu-server 14.04 inside a qemu+kvm VM. network is working fine though specifically getting keys from keys.ubuntu.org works with curl. more detailed error(apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::http=true): http
[13:56] <Pricey> skarufue: You were cut off try ubottu's instructions
[13:56] <Pricey> !paste | skarufue
[13:56] <gnari> I am running a webserver on a virtual server running precise (12.04 LTS) . I apt-get  installed openssl to 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.13 to fix hearthbleed but this tool says I am still vulnerable: https://github.com/noxxi/p5-scripts/blob/master/check-ssl-heartbleed.pl
[13:56] <gnari> what is the deal with that?
[13:57] <Fuchs> sajjad: you updated from a previous version of ubuntu, it seems. Are you sure that your packages are up to date?
[13:57] <Fuchs> sajjad: also do you have additional repos enabled in   /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[13:58] <sajjad> actually, i tried to open a video file in the default video player of ubuntu , and it gave a list of plugins to install, so that is what i did
[13:58] <skarufue> when i apt-get update i get "E: GPG error:  http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)". this is on ubuntu-server 14.04 inside a qemu+kvm VM. network is working fine though specifically getting keys from keys.ubuntu.org works with curl. more detailed error(apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::http=true): http://paste.ubuntu.com/7501510/
[13:58] <lenz_> Can you help me finding the right command? I want to copy my "Music", "Documents" and "Pictured" directory to an external harddrive using rsync.
[13:59] <Fuchs> sajjad: yeah, that should work as well
[13:59] <sajjad> and after that vlc was gone and audacious went away
[14:00] <lenz_> What do I do? (sudo?) rsync  -av /home/*/?? /media/*/exthdd?
[14:00] <skarufue> Pricey: worked now?
[14:00] <afrokarlsson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6omsDyFNlk
[14:00] <Fuchs> lenz_: * will take everything in home
[14:00] <sajjad> these two sources are in sources.list.d folder
[14:00] <sajjad> webupd8team-java-trusty.list  webupd8team-java-trusty.list.save
[14:01] <lenz_> okay, Fuchs. How do I take "Music", "Documents" and "Pictures" only?
[14:01] <wxz> I have a /config/transmission from a karmic installation, I'm on a precise pangolin installation right now. How can I merge my two config directories, I mostly want the ratios to be not forgotten
[14:01] <TJ-> skarufue: have you tried deleting the partial list? " sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_InRelease"
[14:01] <Fuchs> lenz_: you can make an include file
[14:01] <wxz> is it the resume files that I need to worry aboiut?
[14:01] <Fuchs> lenz_: then rsync --archive --one-file-system --hard-links --human-readable --inplace --numeric-ids  --delete --delete-excluded --progress --include-from=/path/to/your/include.txt /base/folder /target/folder
[14:02] <Fuchs> lenz_: the include.txt  can just include folders you want to rsync, one per line
[14:02] <doranvm> is there no 32 bit build of ubuntu server?
[14:02] <Fuchs> (you can also use --exclude-from   to do the opposite)
[14:03] <lenz_> okay vielen vielen dank fuchs thanks a lot
[14:03] <TJ-> doranvm: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-server-i386.iso
[14:03] <Fuchs> lenz_: you can also run a "dry run" first
[14:03] <lenz_> Do I really need all those options?
[14:03] <Fuchs> lenz_: to check whether it really does exactly what you expect it to. Note that there are plenty of nice graphical frontends for rsync/rdiff-backup  as well, so if you prefer one of these ...
[14:04] <Fuchs> lenz_: for a backup I'd recommend them, but you don't exactly need them, no. See what they do, especially the delete one,
[14:04] <skarufue> TJ-: TJ- that was a good pointer. thankyou.
[14:04] <doranvm> TJ-: Thank you. How did you find that? Here it says 64bit only? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[14:04] <Fuchs> as this will delete files from a previous backup that are no longer existent. You might want that, or you might not want that.
[14:04] <TJ-> doranvm: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[14:04] <Fuchs> lenz_: as said, I'd recommend either using a frontend, reading the man page first or definitely only do a dry run first
[14:04] <lenz_> So for me that would be "rsync (options) --include-from=/home/lenz/backup.txt /home/lenz (path to external harddrive)
[14:05] <lenz_> there are frontends?
[14:05] <lenz_> Okay, BRB
[14:05] <doranvm> TJ-: I'll write to Canonical and tell them their website needs fixing. Thank you.
[14:05] <Fuchs> lenz_: yes and yes
[14:05] <Fuchs> lenz_: as you seem to understand German: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/rsync
[14:06] <Fuchs> it includes descriptions to all options and some graphical frontends as well
[14:06] <TJ-> doranvm: I think that is because only about 0.5% install the 32-bit server
[14:06] <lenz_> Thanks a lot Fuchs ich bin aus Berlin :)
[14:06] <alexander> Hy dears
[14:07] <Fuchs> lenz_: then I'd recommend that wiki. (It has also articles on other backup solutions, but if you want to use rsync for whatever reason (which is perfectly fine, rsync is a nice tool) you probably want to read that article
[14:07] <Guest86333> could someone help me with a ubuntu repository ?
[14:07] <Fuchs> it has examples and frontends. Should answer most of your questions.
[14:07] <doranvm> TJ-: Yes I think I agree.
[14:08] <lenz_> Reading now. Tausend Dank Fuchs
[14:08] <Fuchs> You're welcome :)
[14:08] <Guest86333> I have a ubuntu mirror , it has many ubuntu dists ....
[14:09] <Guest86333> I want clean it
[14:09] <Guest86333> how I delete a old version in this mirror ?
[14:10] <Guest86333> could someone help ?
[14:10] <lenz_> Okay, grsync doesn't let me choose multiple folders. I guess I'll just use the CLI version
[14:11] <Guest86333> Hey guys, how could I delete old dists on my apt-mirror ?
[14:12] <Fuchs> lenz_: if you plan to use it for backups: see http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Datensicherung?redirect=no#Grafisch
[14:12] <Fuchs> lenz_: it also lists a couple more frontends using rsync than the rsync article
[14:13] <Fuchs> if it is not for backup purposes but just to copy the stuff over once: just use the CLI tool, yes
[14:13] <Fuchs> you can also add includes directly on the command line, I prefer files
[14:13] <lenz_> I will to that
[14:13] <lenz_> Yes, it is an elegant solution
[14:14] <Fuchs> I use it with excludes  for backups on my server
[14:14] <eight3> hello all :)
[14:14] <lenz_> the .txt will only have to contain the words "Music", "Pictures" and "Documents", one per line, right?
[14:15] <Fuchs> if that is relative to the basepath: yes. Else include them as full paths, and also add a /*  after them, so it matches everything inside these folders for sure
[14:15] <eight3> may i post a pastebin of some error's? maybe someone can help me
[14:15] <Fuchs> as said, I use excludes instead of includes, so I might not be 100% sure on these  (which is why you should definitely do a dry run)
[14:16] <Beldar> eight3, Tell the channel the problem as well with it
[14:16] <Beldar> some context
[14:16] <eight3> Beldar, Ok ty
[14:16] <Fuchs> but yes, according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/56401/backing-up-files-from-specific-folders-in-rsync   this looks correct-ish
[14:17] <Guest49396> Anybody have any idea how to get past this?
[14:17] <Guest49396> http://i.imgur.com/TL2W1t8.png
[14:17] <Beldar> eight3, Your welcome, you can always post away here. ;)
[14:17] <Guest49396> It appears to be unresponsive.
[14:17] <Guest49396> Came up when trying to install restricted extras in terminal.
[14:18] <Fuchs> Guest49396: enter and tab-enter don't work?
[14:18] <Guest49396> nice
[14:18] <Guest49396> tab-enter worked
[14:18] <Guest49396> ty!
[14:18] <Fuchs> Guest49396: technically you can abort it and then use dpkg-reconfigure  to bring it up again, but that is a bit of a hack
[14:18] <Guest49396> =D
[14:18] <Fuchs> you're welcome :)
[14:18] <newbsduser> there is no configuration in /etc/network/interfaces file. but ubuntu gui changes eth0 eth1 settings for dhcp.. how can i prevent this?
[14:19] <lenz_>  sudo rsync -avn --include-from=/home/lenz/backup_folders.txt /home/lenz /media/lenz/24E2C7617E62FC1B/ Fuchs does that look right?
[14:19] <ozbrk> anyway let's take a look for two another issues first of them is about online accounts the browser which included on 14.04 cannot write ''@'' and twitter and some other accounts are cannot be loges in.
[14:19] <ozbrk> loged*
[14:19] <newbsduser> i don't want another configuration than /etc/network/interfaces file...
[14:19] <newbsduser> how can i do that?
[14:19] <doranvm> ozbrk: Is this about keyboard language?
[14:20] <Fuchs> lenz_: yes. Not entirely sure if the sudo is needed, unless you lack write permissions on the target (possible) or read permissions on your home (that would worry me)
[14:20] <ozbrk> doravm: Keyboard languange is true and it is Tr
[14:20] <newbsduser> ozbrk, bana sor gardas sorunu
[14:20] <Fuchs> lenz_: -n should make it do a dry run, -a is helpful for backups as it adds some sane default options, -v just makes it be a bit more verbose, which can be helpful during the dry run
[14:20] <newbsduser> ben cozuyum
[14:21] <lenz_> I put it just in case. Fuchs; If I run it though, it seems to go to /.local and /.config though
[14:22] <lenz_> It tries to copy my whole home
[14:22] <Fuchs> lenz_: ah, sorry, you seem to need to exclude *
[14:23] <Fuchs> so it only takes stuff in the includes
[14:23] <Fuchs> as said, I tend to do it the other way around, which is why I didn't know what. Add * to your excludes, then it should only sync stuff explicitly given in the includes.
[14:24] <lenz_> That is "--exclude *" ?
[14:24] <Fuchs> that might be interpreted by your shell, hmm
[14:24] <Fuchs> try --exclude "*"
[14:24] <lenz_> Goes through the whole folder as well...
[14:26] <Fuchs> lenz_: well, I personally would probably just do the opposite then  (work with ecludes, excluding all dotfiles and folders, and the ones that aren't Documents, Music and the other thing you wanted. Or just pass these 3 to rsync instead of your home folder
[14:26] <skarufue>  /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS
[14:26] <skarufue> grrrrr
[14:26] <skarufue> better
[14:27] <lenz_> Fuchs now its 0 folders. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7501615/
[14:27] <Fuchs> lenz_: oh, and "*" is probably interpreted by the shell as well, try '*'
[14:27] <Beldar> skarufue, Many IRC Clients have that built in.
[14:27] <Fuchs> so --exlcude '*' --include-from ...
[14:27] <skarufue> Beldar: well. i like irssi. but i always forget that command because i tend to sve the channel config.
[14:28] <A_I_> hi there
[14:28] <A_I_> service network restart is deprecated
[14:28] <A_I_> what must I use instead ?
[14:28] <doranvm> Any one know of a guide that tells me exactly what I need to do to get something running as a daemon (service)? A guide for the startup files, and (importantly) what my code has to do in order to run in this manner, and how it can interact with the desktop?
[14:28] <Beldar> skarufue, I wondered if you were in a cli client. ;)
[14:28] <sleepee> ifdown and ifup?
[14:29] <lenz_> Still says 0 bytes on the dry run... Maybe with -n it doesn't look into the txt?
[14:29] <Beldar> !daemon
[14:30] <sleepee> @A_I_  try sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[14:30] <sleepee> assuming it's eth0
[14:30] <skarufue> doranvm: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[14:31] <Fuchs> lenz_: it should, but not seeing the text file it is a bit hard to say what the error is. Have you put *s after the directories?
[14:31] <A_I_> sleepee no service to restart ? really ?
[14:31] <wxz> my shortcuts don't work for precise pangolin, don't know why
[14:31] <Fuchs> lenz_: so /home/foobar/Music/*
[14:31] <Beldar> doranvm, A start might be man daemon in the cli.
[14:32] <lenz_> Fuchs, let me try that
[14:32] <djdemon> hey all
[14:32] <djdemon> any one can help me?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !ask|djdemon
[14:32] <sleepee> i think there is but i don't use it.  what exactly are you trying to do?
[14:32] <skarufue> will ubuntu adopt systemd? does anyone know?
[14:32] <sleepee> i mean, what is your problem?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> skarufue until they officially announce - no.
[14:33] <skarufue> a shame that.
[14:33] <djdemon> how i configure terminal allays run in su mode?
[14:33] <Fuchs> err?
[14:33] <Fuchs> There was an official announcement for ubuntu to switch to systemd.
[14:33] <sleepee> i heard systemd will be adopted.  i forgot where i heard that though
[14:34] <sleepee> i think papa mark said it in a blog or something
[14:34] <Beldar> djdemon, su is not a good option, why are you using it?
[14:34] <skarufue> Yup and i just see that 14.04 server already uses systemd
[14:34] <Fuchs> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316   yes he did
[14:34] <doranvm> djdemon: Don't run as root, it's not a good idea. What do you specifically need to do?
[14:34] <ryan948484> exit
[14:35] <Beldar> djdemon, Do you basically mean a rooted terminal?
[14:35] <skarufue> doranvm: well since they are switching to systemd you can probably ignore my upstart cookbook stuff i linked you
[14:35] <djdemon> i need run as root for MonoDevolp
[14:35] <djdemon> yes
[14:35] <Fuchs> wut?
[14:35] <sleepee> they probably wont switch for a long time though
[14:35] <Fuchs> you do not want to run something like Monodevelop as root
[14:35] <djdemon> yes
[14:35] <Beldar> djdemon, sudo -i   be sure what your doing is correct.
[14:36] <Fuchs> no, no you don't
[14:36] <djdemon> each time i open mono, ask me to put PW
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Fuchs then you doin it wrong
[14:36] <sleepee> theyll probably wait till debian switches first, and then make it default in the follwing lts
[14:36] <Fuchs> djdemon: then try to fix that, instead of throwing root at it
[14:36] <sleepee> if all goes well that is
[14:36] <duckchat> system settings -> displays... when changes are made to displays, where does that data?  I want to look at those files...
[14:36] <djdemon> i remove it and install mono again and same happen
[14:36] <Beldar> djdemon, there is a reason for passwords bypassing them is not a good idea in ubuntu.
[14:37] <doranvm> djdemon: What are you doing that needs root?
[14:37] <Fuchs> duckchat: probably  .config/monitors.xml
[14:37] <djdemon> wow to many question, i am a low user.
[14:37] <Fuchs> duckchat: depends a bit whether you are talking about unity/gnome system settings or KDE ones here
[14:38] <djdemon> i just install mono and each time i need open it say for put password for run mono
[14:38] <sleepee> i swear for the life of me, i can't understand why i keep trying to vnc into a remote server and get a loopback vnc image instead.
[14:38] <Fuchs> how exactly did you install it, djdemon
[14:39] <djdemon> by wget & apt-get install
[14:39] <Fuchs> unlikely, as apt-get doesn't work on local files. What exactly did you wget?
[14:39] <Beldar> djdemon, You explanations are somewhat just repeats and convoluted.
[14:39] <TeraJL> hi there, i want to set alt+shift+1 / alt+shift+2 ... to move the window to that workspace, but after i set it does not work, i've even changed no dconf to instead of "alt+shift+!" to "alt+shift+1" but it still does nothing
[14:39] <djdemon> the .deb files
[14:40] <lenz_> It's not happening verdammtnochmal!  Where's the fault? http://imgur.com/XvdmlQO Fuchs
[14:40] <djdemon> ok, sorry for take you'r time. i will try solve it by my self, thanks anyway :D
[14:40] <Fuchs> djdemon: then you installed them with dpkg and not apt-get. Where did you wget them from, then?
[14:40] <helmut_> hi
[14:41] <Fuchs> lenz_: bah, if you don't have any pre-existing backups on the target, you can see if it works in a non dry run
[14:41] <Beldar> helmut_, good morning from here.
[14:41] <Fuchs> lenz_: also it might be that the includes have to be relative to the path you give to rsync
[14:41] <Fuchs> lenz_: I do backups from /, so basically everything is relative from there.
[14:42] <lenz_> Okay, so I just put "Music" "Pictures" and "Documents"?
[14:42] <TeraJL> can someone test it so i can know if the problem is on my keyboard language or something?
[14:42] <Fuchs> lenz_: Music/*
[14:42] <Fuchs> lenz_: worth a try, and else: try a non dry one
[14:42] <sleepee> is there a specific picture upload site w'ere supposed to use here?
[14:43] <sleepee> like for screenshots and stuff?
[14:43] <DJones> !imagebin | sleepee
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !paste|sleepee
[14:43] <Beldar> !imagebin
[14:43] <sleepee> ok.  thanks
[14:44] <doranvm> Fuchs: lenz_ Why --exclude "*" --> doesn't that exclude everything and therefore not copy?
[14:44] <lenz_> Doesnt work on either.... Fuchs.
[14:44] <skarufue> 14.04 last upstart ubuntu version. debian decided for systemd so does ubuntu. (rhel6 to use upstart......)
[14:45] <Beldar> heh I have had a attack page page block on imagebin for awhile
[14:45] <lenz_> doranvm, after that follows --include-from
[14:45] <Fuchs> doranvm: it does, but with --include  it should use the stuff you give it to include
[14:45] <doranvm> Fuchs: lenz_ I thought the syntax was exclude= ?
[14:45] <duckchat> one video card: radeon 5450. no video on the motherboard.  why would X -configure complain?
[14:45] <duckchat> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
[14:45] <Fuchs> doranvm: entirely possible
[14:45] <Fuchs> lenz_: do try that
[14:47] <lenz_> rsync -avn --exclude=* --include-from=/home/lenz/backup_folders.txt /home/lenz/ /media/lenz/24E2C7617E62FC1B/
[14:48] <lenz_> 0 bytes
[14:48] <doranvm> lenz_: Are you familiar with python or perl etc? This would be a pretty easy script in that, if you were
[14:49] <lenz_> I am not
[14:49] <lenz_> You know what
[14:49] <lenz_> I'll just put a # in front of the folders I want to copy
[14:50] <Fuchs> lenz_: actually  try  rsync -avnR /home/lenz/Music /home/lenz/Pictures /path/to/your/drive
[14:50] <lenz_> and do /home/lenz/#* as source... will that work Fuchs, doravm?
[14:50] <lenz_> Woah, you can to that?
[14:50] <Fuchs> lenz_: try the above thingie first
[14:50] <Fuchs> lenz_: apparently that is what -R does, so: yes
[14:50] <doranvm> lenz_: Fuchs I think the issue is how include and exlcude combine
[14:51] <Fuchs> doranvm: probably, I tend to just use excludes for mine, which is why I am fighting with includes here a bit
[14:51] <lenz_> can I do three sources for -R?
[14:51] <Fuchs> but maybe they are not needed
[14:51] <Fuchs> lenz_: yes
[14:52] <doranvm> Fuchs:  lenz_ what happens if you put the include before the exclude?
[14:52] <me-1> hi...wgat is the app which can check the Hard disk
[14:52] <me-1> what
[14:52] <doranvm> me-1: check for errors? fsck
[14:53] <consoleRoberto> Hi
[14:53] <Fuchs> fsck would be to check the filesystem for errors,
[14:53] <Fuchs> the smartmontools programs would be to check the disc itself
[14:54] <me-1> doranvm,  check for bad sectors etc
[14:55] <doranvm> me-1: the default disk manager can do that ('disks' into the dash)
[14:55] <lenz_> rsync -avR /home/lenz/Documents/ /home/lenz/Music/ /home/lenz/Pictures/ /media/lenz/24E2C7617E62FC1B/ Does just the right thing
[14:55] <Fuchs> lenz_: lovely
[14:55] <lenz_> I hope
[14:55] <lenz_> I think with -R it takes only 2 arguments?
[14:55] <doranvm> lenz_: Nice, glad it's working!
[14:56] <Fuchs> lenz_: I think it just interprets the last one as the destination and treats the rest as sources
[14:56] <lduros> if i see a X under my S column in htop, what does it mean?
[14:56] <lenz_> Thanks so much doranvm and Fuchs
[14:56] <lenz_> that was a hard one
[14:57] <Fuchs> lduros: something interesting, it should be one of DRSTWZ
[14:57] <doranvm> lenz_: I think fuchs deserves more of the credit
[14:58] <lduros> hmm, i only saw it for a split second
[14:58] <lenz_> Yes, he definitely does
[14:58] <lduros> Fuchs: maybe i dreamed
[14:58] <Fuchs> lduros: or it was some terminal issue
[14:58] <lenz_> Danke man du bist der beste :)
[14:58] <lduros> hopefully
[14:58] <Fuchs> Keine Ursache.
[15:00] <wxz> is there anyway I can move from transmission to deluge but keep my ratios?
[15:01] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i noticed that handbrake (a video conversion program) was available for 14.04 in the official repo's, so i gave it a try...it works great, except for when you close it, at which point it always becomes a zombie process that can't be killed any way i can find
[15:02] <Beldar> arthurfiggis, In would not worry about that, a zombie is doing nothing.
[15:03] <Fuchs> I would try to find out who his parent is and, in case of it not being init, kill that
[15:03] <colinshen> hi,i got a problem.my usb headphone does not work on ubuntu14.04
[15:03] <Fuchs> and maybe report that to launchpad, or see if you find out what happens with tools like strace
[15:04] <Beldar> colinshen, Do they show if you run lsusb
[15:04] <lenz_> Rsync is quite slow if I am not mistaken
[15:04] <doranvm> lenz_: It's as fast as copying the file, unless you put in options to compress or verify, and that adds overhead
[15:04] <sasha>  When dd'ing a hdd to an ssd, what would be the best option to clone it (including the boot loader)?
[15:04] <lenz_> does -a add overhead?
[15:05] <sasha> Note that although the partition from the hdd fits on the ssd, the ssd is smaller
[15:05] <Fuchs> lenz_: sort of, but it adds sane flags  (related to permissions)
[15:05] <Fuchs> lenz_: you want these for backups
[15:05] <colinshen> I only see C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM108 Audio Controller
[15:05] <Beldar> sasha, I would use clonezilla dd is if run wrong a bad thang.
[15:05] <colinshen> Beldar:the phone controller works...
[15:05] <arthurfiggis> Beldar, Fuchs: hmm...well those are good suggestions, thanks :) reading up on zombie processes it seems that the only real effect they have, in the author's terms, is to add an extra line in ps because they use essentially no resources...so if that's correct, no problem :)
[15:05] <sleepee> http://imagebin.org/311538 <-- Anybody know why this keeps happening?
[15:05] <lenz_> Okay. Then I'll just go for a hog until it is finished
[15:05] <colinshen> Beldar,but i cant hear anything...
[15:06] <Beldar> colinshen, THat does not answer my question.
[15:06] <sleepee> i swear I'm not vnc'ing into 127.0.0.1
[15:07] <colinshen> there are several information after lsusb Beldar
[15:08] <Beldar> colinshen, You can plug in the usb and run that command, then unplug it and run again if your not able to tell if it shows.
[15:08] <EmsY420> Hello guys! It's not possible to play on any leagues right? Because of the anticheat.
[15:08] <JerryP> anyone running win8 and ubuntu on the same HD?
[15:08] <Beldar> !ot > EmsY420
[15:08] <colinshen> i find which one one is my headphone...(Bus 001 Device 011: ID 0d8c:013c C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM108 Audio Controller
[15:08] <colinshen> )
[15:09] <Beldar> JerryP, Many get to the issue
[15:09] <JerryP> Can you access files in ubuntu from win8 and vice versa?
[15:10] <sleepee> i got win8 on 1 HDD and ubuntu 14.04 on HDD and SSD
[15:10] <colinshen> and i can use the controller to adjust the value. only can not hear anything.
[15:10] <sleepee> yes @ JerryP
[15:10] <Beldar> JerryP, from ubuntu yes, windows does not read ext type partiitons without a really old driver, better to have a shared NTFS.
[15:10] <sleepee> well, i'm not sure about vice versa
[15:10] <Fuchs> JerryP: yes. Ubuntu can read (and write, but I wouldn't do that) NTFS, for Windows you need additional ext2/3/4  drivers
[15:10] <Fuchs> JerryP: or you just have stuff on a common filesystem that both can handle
[15:11] <sleepee> isn't reading extX on windows really slow though?
[15:11] <Beldar> sleepee, not even a really good idea in the end.
[15:12] <JerryP> wubi doesnt exist anymore, right?
[15:12] <sleepee> Beldar, yea i think i tried that once before, and it was a real PITA
[15:12] <Beldar> JerryP, 12.04 yes, no real support however
[15:13] <Beldar> a virtual would be better tha a wubi
[15:13] <Beldar> than*
[15:14] <JerryP> The problem is I am having major issues with Win8, so I wanted to try running linux for a few days, but I am not sure I want to create a partition just yet
[15:14] <JerryP> i have it running in a VM now, but very slow obviously
[15:14] <lenz_> JerryP have you tried xubuntu?
[15:14] <JerryP> I tried booting to a flash disk and that was OK, but still not very good, and you cant save anything...
[15:15] <Beldar> JerryP, THis is a OEM windows8 a uefi with gpt partitions?
[15:15] <balamkej> who
[15:16] <JerryP> Yes, OEM
[15:17] <Beldar> JerryP, Use a usb and set it to have persistence. The install in this W8 environment is not like the msdos setups, I would not go to installing till you know you want it.
[15:17] <Beldar> !uefi | JerryP
[15:17] <cfhowlett> JerryP if you have sufficient ram, install virtualbox in windows and put 32 bit buntu in a box
[15:19] <skarufue> JerryP: got a reasonably sized pen-drive around? try it on there
[15:19] <Beldar> JerryP, JUst for more info and a picture of some of the barriers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:19] <skarufue> JerryP: you can have a partition named pesrsitent on the flash drive. then you can save.
[15:20] <skarufue> ^
[15:20] <justinm001> hi
[15:20] <justinm001> could someone please ssh to my ip and see if you get a connection.. trying to test my port forwarding
[15:20] <doranvm> Has anyone noticed Google Chrome now has the auto-snapping/auto-sizing behaviour from Chrome OS and it keeps snapping to certain points when I resize it?
[15:21] <Beldar> skarufue, You only use a persistant partition if you want more than  4 gigs right?
[15:25] <JerryP> skarufue/Beldar: thanks for all of the info. I think I did that, but the USB was only 2GB so I only had 900MB of persistence
[15:25] <JerryP> but the OS kept freezing, which I assumed was due to running off USB
[15:26] <JerryP> maybe my best bet is wubi + 12.04 to test it out for a few days?
[15:28] <JerryP> any idea where to download wubi? I cant seem to find it anywhere
[15:29] <skarufue> JerryP: wubi is really meh
[15:29] <skarufue> JerryP: is this a laptop or a tower
[15:29] <doranvm> JerryP:  I am not sure wubi is still supported.
[15:29] <JerryP> laptop
[15:30] <JerryP> I think its my best option to try it for a few days, no? USB kept freezing, VM is still inside windows which is the problem in the first place
[15:31] <skarufue> well. yeah. just dont rely on the wubi installation
[15:31] <skarufue> also i am not shure if wubi will work with win8 bootloader
[15:31] <doranvm> wubi on win8 or 64bit is terrible
[15:31] <doranvm> i think thats the reason they are trying to get rid of wubi
[15:32] <doranvm> JerryP: What do you need so much persistance for on the USB?
[15:32] <skarufue> JerryP: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wubi/?source=directory
[15:33] <JerryP> Well, if I am going to use it for a few days, I need to install a few things. But the real issue was that it kept freezing
[15:34] <doranvm> JerryP: Your windows is also freezing?
[15:35] <JerryP> Sorta
[15:36] <alexi5> hello
[15:36] <JerryP> Theres some sort of issue with win8 where the disk utilization spikes to 100%
[15:36] <JerryP> I did all the fixes and then was having memory issues
[15:36] <alexi5> do any of you guys know of any good tv tuner applications for ubuntu ?
[15:37] <JerryP> so I downgraded from 8.1 to 8.0 and its "more stable" but I still dont trust it. So I am thinking of dual booting linux and running that primarily and only windows when I need to use a windows app
[15:37] <Keanu73> JerryP: Are you talking about Windows?
[15:37] <Keanu73> Windows 8.1? and 8?
[15:37] <doranvm> JerryP: So you're running Ubuntu from a USB and getting the occasional freeze? Have you tried an Ubuntu install?
[15:37] <Keanu73> ah right, he needs help on installing ubuntu
[15:39] <aryklein> which release is going to use systemd by default?
[15:40] <ashley_> hey hola amigos
[15:40] <ashley_> como estan todos
[15:40] <ashley_> disculpen una pregunta...
[15:40] <doranvm> What's the program that clears the memory cache?
[15:40] <aryklein> ashley_: in english
[15:41] <ashley_> ok
[15:41] <ashley_> hi friends!
[15:41] <doranvm> ashley_: If that is spanish there is #ubuntu-es
[15:41] <ashley_> righ... im have any question!
[15:42] <aryklein> ashley_: I can speak spanish but most people from here don't speak
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> doranvm: you can clear the disk cache in RAM, is that what you mean?
[15:42] <aryklein> ashley_: shoot. Maybe I can help you
[15:42] <ashley_> ok... welll ummm
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> doranvm: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches        will do that
[15:43] <doranvm> ActionParsnip: I remember it being something with proc/dropcaches, but i'll take anything you can give! (Gladly!)
[15:43] <doranvm> ActionParsnip: Nice
[15:43] <aryklein> ashley_: maybe if you prefer spanish, #ubuntu-es
[15:43] <aryklein> !facebook
[15:43] <ashley_> when i see a video my screen starts flashing.... why???
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> doranvm: seems a bit pointless though
[15:44] <ashley_> I have elementary luna os, its my SO
[15:44] <aryklein> ashley_: all the screen?
[15:44] <ashley_> yea
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> ashley_: elementary isnt supported here
[15:44] <doranvm> ActionParsnip: Perhaps, I'm in an experimental mode
[15:44] <skarufue> aryklein: 14.04 is the last upstart version so presumeably the next release
[15:44] <doranvm> s/mode/mood
[15:44] <DJones> !elementary | ashley_
[15:45] <aryklein> !elementary
[15:45] <ashley_> all rigth thanks!
[15:45] <aryklein> skarufue: thanks
[15:46] <Beldar> aryklein, here is what is on the bot. http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=wifi  check before running here maybe?
[15:46] <aryklein> skarufue: we have to wait :(
[15:47] <rooted> how can i extract a .xz with bunzip2 ?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> rooted: install unp and use that, waaay easier
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> rooted: works with all archives
[15:47] <WeechJames> How well do you think unity would run with 1GB of system ram?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> WeechJames: fine, Ive ran it on 1Gb
[15:47] <WeechJames> Thanks
[15:48] <aryklein> Beldar: nop
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> WeechJames: I had an Nvidia 6150LE to help though :)
[15:48] <WeechJames> the GPU will be up for it
[15:48] <WeechJames> just dead ram :p
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> WeechJames: RAM is pretty cheap these days
[15:48] <rooted> atctionparsnip you have the extract command line for unp ?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> rooted: you'll need to install it first
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> rooted: then it's simply:  unp filename     for any archive
[15:49] <rooted> ive install it
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> rooted: it will extract to pwd
[15:49] <rooted> thanks
[15:50]  * ActionParsnip thinks unp should be installed by default
[15:51] <aryklein> ashley_: all the screen?
[15:51] <someHuman> Hello!
[15:51] <someHuman> iptable: Hey dude you there?
[15:51] <Beldar> aryklein, nop?
[15:51] <someHuman> iptable: I think I just destroyed my flash drive :(
[15:51] <someHuman> I pulled it out when I was formatting it.
[15:52] <someHuman> I used DISK to format, it didn't even show me anything like a progress bar or something.
[15:52] <someHuman> So I pulled it out, thinking that it's already done.
[15:53] <Jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip,  what was that fix again to make my headphones work in A2DP modE>
[15:53] <Run> People how to give your computer a priority in the router?
[15:53] <aryklein> Beldar: sorry
[15:54] <Beldar> aryklein, No problem, they have just taken out some of our favorite bot prompts is all. ;)
[15:55] <ouhuispc> hrllo sll\
[15:55] <ouhuispc> hello all
[15:55] <Beldar> making the ubuntu persona more friendly was the goal I suspect, lol
[15:55] <ouhuispc> does anyone know where i can find drivers for the old d-link dwl g510 wireless network adapter, im using xubuntu trusty tahr
[15:57] <digi0ps> Hey. Need a help?
[15:57] <digi0ps> I need a help!
[15:57] <digi0ps> anyone there?
[15:58] <ikonia> just ask
[15:58] <ikonia> people will help if they can
[15:58] <JerryP> Any idea why ubuntu in oracle vm virtualbox is locked at 640x480 resolution?
[15:58] <ikonia> virtual graphics card
[15:58] <ouhuispc> does anyone know where i can find drivers for the old d-link dwl g510 wireless network adapter, im using xubuntu trusty tahr
[15:58] <ikonia> isn't trusty dead ?
[15:59] <DJones> digi0ps: Until you ask the question that you need support with, we don't know whether we can help
[15:59] <JerryP> ikonia, with Mint it was full resolution and I believe all of the VM settings are the same...
[16:01] <digi0ps> Thanks. Okay this is my question. I have two entries for Windows 8 in Grub. One in brackets has ( on dev/sda1 ) and another has ( on dev/sda2 ). Can you say why this is happening?
[16:02] <ouhuispc> ikonia:  isnt trusty brand new?
[16:04] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I force my bluetooth headset connect in H2DP mode only?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !logs | Jeeves_Moss
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Jeeves_Moss: all I can say is check logs
[16:05] <digi0ps> any one help please...
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: is there a recovery partition outside the Win8 one?
[16:07] <digi0ps> No. sda2 is my other partition ( labeled E:\ in windows ).
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: no bootable OS on it?
[16:09] <digi0ps> No bootable OS  on it!
[16:09] <digi0ps> But I have a RefreshImage on it!
[16:10] <digi0ps> The backup which i took before installing ubuntu!
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: strange. Ask in #grub too, they may be able to tell you how to make Grub ignore a partition
[16:10] <lduros> I have a shutdown script in rc0.d/ and rc6.d/ called K01StopScript... It's running just fine at shutdown, I'm using it to cleanly shutdown long running processes before anything starts the shutdown process
[16:10] <lduros> but it does look like syslog stops at some time before the end of this execution script
[16:10] <JerryP> ikonia, FYI the issue was Virtual Guest Additions. Solution: Startup your guest and hit Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal session. Type "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms" to install the latest package. Restart the VM and enjoy screen-size.
[16:10] <lduros> I see: May 22 15:41:20 ip-10-0-0-53 kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
[16:11] <lduros> shouldn't syslog wait until the script is executed to stop itself?
[16:11] <digi0ps> Okay. Thanks anyway. :)
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: maybe https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7351666.html
[16:11] <lduros> i see the following in syslog: exiting on signal 15.
[16:11] <lduros>  
[16:11] <lduros> and then it starts again it seems
[16:12] <lduros> my question is, is there a way to run a shutdown script and have nothing get shutdown yet?
[16:12] <lduros> signal 15 is SIGTERM I believe. I just wonder why it would send a SIGTERM while my script isn't finished executing
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub2-skipping-one-partition-from-os-detection-741100/
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: seems you can use: GRUB_DONT_AUTODETECT_PART="hda1 hda5"
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: so you can specify the partitions to read
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: or not read, not sure if thats the blacklist or whitelist
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> digi0ps: update-grub after each edit will show you what is what, just dont reboot if it looks wrong
[16:15] <digi0ps> ActionParsnip: Okay thanks. But where to add that code?
[16:17] <doranvm> JerryP: Load the vbox guest additons
[16:17] <Mantissa> I have an intake and exhaust case fan connected via 3pin header. The latter is currently at full speed.
[16:18] <Mantissa> I'm trying to use pwmconfig for fancontrol but I feel like I need guidance.
[16:18] <JerryP> doranvm, I know...that's what I said the solution was....
[16:18] <Jeeves_Moss> ActionParsnip, I can't find it again.  When I had a look at the logs when I switch profiles, I get "module-bluetooth-device.c: A2DP is not connected, refused to switch profile"
[16:19] <lduros> is there a way to cancel a shutdown (like with shutdown -c "abort shutdown") from within a shutdown script in rc0.d?
[16:22] <joytuq> how to set option in alsamixer for philips headphone ?
[16:22] <colinshen> ....i got same problem...my usb headphone does not work too..
[16:26] <sgseven> boaa
[16:28] <sgseven> ninguem fala?
[16:37] <s3ct10n802> hello
[16:43] <SpeendaSh> Hello everyone i have a question about Kingsoft !
[16:44] <SpeendaSh> i'm searching for the folder that have the fonts files so i can add one (:
[16:45] <SpeendaSh> do you know where or how i can find it ?
[16:45] <Jordan_U> !font | SpeendaSh
[16:46] <SchrodingersScat> SpeendaSh: found this: http://ksosoft.com/writer/176-set-default-font-and-add-font.html
[16:47] <SpeendaSh> oh ! Thanks Guys ! SchrodingersScat  Jordan_U  ubottu
[16:47] <SpeendaSh> i'm going to try
[16:47] <voom> how do tell windows to auth (to access the share) when logging on to a roaming profile
[16:49] <s3ct10n802> so this is literally day 2 of me working with xubuntu, anyone have any advice or anything i should know?
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> s3ct10n802: enjoy :)
[16:51] <lduros> is it ok to replace /sbin/shutdown with /usr/local/sbin/shutdown? I need to perform tasks that don't work very well when running a rc0.d script?
[16:52] <s3ct10n802> thanks
[16:53] <digi0ps> A problem. I have a password for my account. But when I boot in everytime it directly logins. No asking for password!
[16:53] <digi0ps> Can anyone tell how to disable it and to ask the password everytime?
[16:55] <lduros> if i remove /sbin/shutdown and create a script (which eventually shuts down) from /usr/local/sbin/shutdown, will it get overwritten when I update && upgrade?
[16:59] <cuddylier> Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to flashcache the main partition of a hard drive (/)? http://blog.gerrit-tamboer.net/using-flashcache-to-speed-up-your-io-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:59] <cuddylier> As that tutorial uses /home
[17:03] <digi0ps> anyone help please?
[17:04] <voom> I cant help
[17:04] <ichat> digi0ps:  what version?
[17:05] <Emi18>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/RdXMfO
[17:05] <doranvm> digi0ps: Assuming supported desktop version of ubuntu, disable automatic login from the 'user accounts' applet in unity dash
[17:06] <SpeendaSh> Still no luck for installing a new font in Kingsoft Writter and presatation it looks like i need to find the fotnt folder but i really don't know where to find it ... any ideas?
[17:07] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: User fonts are in ~/.local/share/fonts
[17:07] <ichat> digi0ps:  did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin,  logically,  if you 'kinda reverse the information here'  you should be able to find out what is happening and fix it according to your needs
[17:08] <SpeendaSh> whart does the ~ mean ? x:
[17:08] <SpeendaSh> doranvm thanks for your help by the way (:
[17:08] <kingbeowolf> my network manager doesn't seem to be working correctly
[17:08] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: ~ is your home folder. But, can you not just double click the font file?
[17:08] <kingbeowolf> i have a connection, but it just shows the wifi icon with no bars
[17:09] <doranvm> You know some of those spam videos might be OK if they didn't need Flashplayer :-)
[17:09] <SpeendaSh> doranvm,  nope, when i do it ask me which program to choose to open it, i tried writer and rpesatation but it didnt worked obviously...
[17:10] <SpeendaSh> doranvm,  oh so it's home ok that's going to be usefull lol
[17:10] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: What type of font is this? OTF, TTF etc?
[17:10] <r00trunner> i've tried to load a self written module, which gives me the dmesg message "module verification failed: signature and/or...". How can i get rid of it? I didn't even know linux now uses signed modules...
[17:12] <SpeendaSh> doranvm,  It's ttf ):
[17:12] <ihavnoth> r00trunner: do you include <linux/init.h>?
[17:14] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: SpeendaSh Tell it to open it with the font viewer (gnome-font-viewer) in /usr/bin, or just copy it to home/.local/share/fonts
[17:15] <doranvm> r00trunner: Is this chrubutu/crouton?
[17:15] <trism> r00trunner: build your own kernel and disable CONFIG_MODULE_SIG or sign your module with scripts/sign-file from the kernel tree
[17:15] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I change my bootsplash screen from the CLI?
[17:16] <SpeendaSh> doranvm,  i'm sorry i... i can't find the "home" folder, there is a home one in root but it doesnt follow with local and all x: ... x: can you exemplain me please ? ^ ^ thanks again for your healp really.
[17:16] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: Your home folder is called "~". it unpacks to /home/yourusername (whatever that is)
[17:16] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: It's "home" bookmark in the file manager
[17:17] <SpeendaSh> it's the little House icon right ? with my username next to it ?* doranvm
[17:17] <doranvm> SpeendaSh: Yes. You will need to turn on hidden files (ctrl+H) to see .local
[17:17] <SpeendaSh> oooh that's why i didnt saw it ! doranvm
[17:18] <hiatus> is there a mir channel?
[17:18] <SpeendaSh> doranvm,  thank you very much ! ow i get it (:
[17:22] <kingbeowolf> my network manager doesn't seem to be working correctly
[17:22] <kingbeowolf> i have a connection, but it just shows the wifi icon with no bars
[17:22] <SpeendaSh> Perfect! it works ! yay ! ^ ^
[17:22] <SpeendaSh> haaa the Ubuntu comunity rocks ! x:
[17:23] <KGM70> kingbeowolf, have you tried to setup network manager ?
[17:26] <kingbeowolf> KGM70: i just installed using the alternative iso
[17:26] <kingbeowolf> KGM70: had to do that to get raid working
[17:27] <kingbeowolf> KGM70: i install ubuntu-desktop
[17:27] <kingbeowolf> KGM70: normally at this point everything just works
[17:28] <KGM70> kingbeowolf, did you setup wifi in ubiquity when you were installing ubuntu?
[17:32] <kingbeowolf> KGM70: i don't have wifi brother i am just trying to get it to show properly for my nic card
[17:33] <KGM70> kingbeowolf, sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[17:34] <sadfasdfsadf> How can I set a program to run at login after all the environment variables are set? I tried to launch from rc.local, but it crashes every time. The same program launched from terminal works fine.
[17:35] <doranvm> sadfasdfsadf: In unity, add it to 'start up applications' via the GUI
[17:36] <doranvm> sadfasdfsadf: Type 'start up' into the dash and it will find  the applet
[17:36] <sadfasdfsadf> doranvm: sorry, I am using the lubuntu package, I kind of hate unity and wish it never took over mainline ubuntu
[17:36] <sadfasdfsadf> doranvm: I cant find anything similar in lxde
[17:36] <doranvm> sadfasdfsadf: Unknown. Maybe #lubuntu, or someone else here knows
[17:36] <humbag> sadfasdfsadf: if it's not graphical you can use @reboot in your crontab
[17:37] <KGM70> kingbeowolf, then run, sudo dhclient etho, for your ethernet nic
[17:38] <Deihmos> does ubuntu have a hibernate function so i can boot another os and when i return to ubuntu it resumes from where i left off?
[17:38] <Deihmos> all i see is suspend
[17:39] <Skaag_> I have a virtual machine with just an IPv6 address and a local (non-routable) IPv4 address, can I apt-get update?
[17:39] <Skaag_> doesn't seem to work
[17:40] <kingbeowolf> KGM70: it says its installed already
[17:40] <Deihmos> it seems that most things in ubuntu isn't straight forward like enabling hibernate
[17:41] <doranvm> Deihmos: pm-ibernate
[17:41] <doranvm> Deihmos: pm-hibernate. Sorry, typo.
[17:42] <doranvm> Deihmos: It doesn't work on all hardware, you might need to fiddle with it. It requires some co-operation from the hardware manufacturer to implement properly.
[17:43] <morph-> anyone know if there is a free alternative to linxacademy.com
[17:43] <sadfasdfsadf> humbag: its graphical :(
[17:43] <Yelu> sadfasdfsadf, could this work for you => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604211
[17:43] <Deihmos> it worked but I don't want to open a terminal to hibernate
[17:44] <Deihmos> I am almost sure there use to be an option for it
[17:44] <doranvm> Deihmos: In theory it shouild addi tself to the Unity menu once loaded
[17:45] <Muscularfemale> hi
[17:45] <Deihmos> it did not
[17:45] <doranvm> Deihmos: I just did a quick google, this MIGHT work http://blog.mafr.de/2014/05/01/enabling-hibernate-support-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[17:46] <perlmonkey> hi
[17:47] <perlmonkey> I'm having probs with my system, I want to delete the partition and reinstall, but it won't show partition with fdisk -l
[17:48] <doranvm> perlmonkey: Does the installer do it?
[17:48] <perlmonkey> here's the strange thing..
[17:48] <perlmonkey> i have set boot order to CD->HD, i put a windows install CD in, it says "booting from CD, press any key" and then goes straight to Linux on HDD
[17:48] <perlmonkey> i know the CD is bootable
[17:49] <doranvm> did you press a key?
[17:49] <perlmonkey> yes
[17:49] <perlmonkey> the cd appears to be reading, led is flashing etc
[17:49] <perlmonkey> strange eh
[17:49] <doranvm> i dont know about CD I am afraid; i have no machines with them anymore
[17:50] <perlmonkey> is there any suggestion to remove Linux?
[17:50] <tmmunq> has anyone gotten bd+ discs to play or rip on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:50] <perlmonkey> its odd how it does boot to Linux (allbeit wrong, fsck reports read block errors.. yet fdisk -l shows no partitions
[17:51] <sadfasdfsadf> Yelu: Trying that now, rebooting with fingers crossed
[17:51] <Yelu> sadfasdfsadf, good luck
[17:54] <someHuman> Hello!
[17:54] <someHuman> Can someone help me recover a video that I accidentally deleted permanently?
[17:54] <sadfasdfsadf> Yelu: no beans :(
[17:54] <KGM70> kingbeowolf, did you install network-manager-gnome ?
[17:54] <someHuman> I have photorec and extundelete that seem potential, but I have no idea how to use it.
[17:55] <Yelu> sadfasdfsadf, sorry for you :(
[17:55] <someHuman> I only need to recover files from 10 - 11 am today.
[17:56] <alazare619> on 14.04 server im unable to connect to a windows share on a domain via mount -t cifs
[17:56] <alazare619> i keep recieving error -13
[17:59] <Nokiabot> Ping pong
[17:59] <doranvm> alazare619: are teh credentials correct, and does the windows share need NTLM encryption?
[17:59] <skarufue> someHuman: cant really help you as i have to run but: DONT WRITE ANYTHING TO THAT DRIVE
[17:59] <fellayaboy> is there an active directory users and computers for linux
[17:59] <skarufue> someHuman: if its the system drive. dont use the system
[17:59] <alazare619> no it shouldnt need ntlm encryption and the credentials are correct yes
[18:00] <someHuman> skarufue: :(
[18:00] <perlmonkey> i'm going to try replacing the HDD
[18:00] <perlmonkey> first i will disconnect and see if cd boots
[18:00] <someHuman> I was able to recover files from a month ago using photorec without parameters.
[18:00] <skarufue> someHuman: if its a extX filesystem give extundelete a shot
[18:01] <doranvm> alazare619: How are you mounting or connecting?
[18:01] <skarufue> someHuman: if you have a spare drive make a copy of your drive with dd
[18:01] <matrium> hi, I can't get my apt to ingnore my previously set proxy settings. I unset all my proxy env variables and created an empty /etc/apt/apt.conf. But apt is still trying to resolve the adresses over the http proxy
[18:01] <skarufue> someHuman: got to run now
[18:01] <someHuman> But I ran out of allocated /home space, I was planning to allocate all of the avail. space in muy HDD to /home
[18:01] <someHuman> skarufue: Ok ok.
[18:02] <perlmonkey> wow i think that solved it
[18:02] <perlmonkey> i disconnected the hdd, booted off cd no probs, then re-connected hdd
[18:02] <perlmonkey> now windows install is running
[18:03] <doranvm> perlmonkey: And now it works? looks like firmware (bios/efi) bug in your machine.
[18:04]  * _ren_ Free porn http://x.co/4giIQ <- Sorry the advertising, my intentions are good...
[18:05] <izzard> So i need some help. I installed ubuntu alongside windows 7 last night and now I can't get Grub to boot to windows 7
[18:05] <izzard> It goes to a blank screen for about 2 minutes and then restarts.
[18:06] <izzard> I have the results from boot-info-script if anyone would be willing to help me out and look at them
[18:08] <izzard> Also, all of my files from my windows partitions are still there, so I know that they didn't get accidentally formated
[18:09] <mitchelwb> I was trying to install the canon inkjet drivers this morning on my 14.04 64 bit.  I didn't get very far, I had to get an older library that isn't in 14.04 and when I tried to install it, I was getting a message that I couldn't because the gksu(?) database was in use from another process.  I ended up rebooting to try and resolve it (nothing should have been using it at that time)
[18:10] <mitchelwb> When I rebooted, the system started, came to the login screen, I entered my password and it went black.  never came up.
[18:10] <mitchelwb> So I rebooted again and this time got a message that there was no bootable device.   So I put in a brand new 14.04 live cd and I've got it up now, but can't find any indication of my hard drive at all.
[18:10] <Yelu> alazare619, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/1113395/comments/30
[18:11] <mitchelwb> gparted is even reporting that there are no devices found.
[18:11] <mitchelwb> any ideas?
[18:11] <Seveas> mitchelwb: power down and check the cables.
[18:11] <lduros> when it says "The system is going down for power off NOW!" which command is executed? /sbin/poweroff?
[18:11] <fellayaboy> make sure you mount.cifs //computer/c$ -o user=username,pass=passwd,domain=domain.com
[18:12] <Seveas> lduros: usually shutdown -h now
[18:12] <alazare619> Yelu, so theoritically mount -t cifs //someserv/someshare -o DOMAIN=domainname,USERNAME=username,PASSWORD=password should work?
[18:12] <lduros> Seveas: when you run sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now it says:
[18:12] <lduros> The system is going down for halt NOW!
[18:12] <lduros>  
[18:12] <doranvm> mitchelwb: is the efi/bios detecting the drive? If not, the problem is hardware
[18:12] <lduros> so not the same
[18:12] <mitchelwb> Seveas: I will... any other ideas though?  it's not easy to get to the machine.  I know cables seems an easy first step and certainly part of the KISS priciple but it's a big project to do.
[18:13] <doranvm> mitchelwb: check bios before opening case
[18:13] <alazare619> that fixed it Yelu
[18:13] <mitchelwb> doranvm: good question.  I'm not sure.  I didn't think about that when I booted from the cd... let me reboot and try.
[18:13] <alazare619> either that or the mixture of me pointing it to ip instead of netbios name
[18:13] <Seveas> lduros: changing to runlevel 0 should do it says the source
[18:14] <lduros> Seveas: sure looks like it's /sbin/poweroff
[18:14] <Seveas> lduros: yeah, I'm reading the source wrong
[18:15] <lduros> what i don't get is that i have a /usr/local/sbin/poweroff, but when ec2 stops an instance, it's still /sbin/poweroff that is used it seems
[18:15] <Seveas> lduros: probably because whatever calls poweroff either calls it by full path or doesn't have /usr/local/sbin in it's $PATH
[18:16] <lduros> Seveas: would it be a crime if i changed the symlink of /sbin/poweroff?
[18:16] <lduros> Seveas: would an update/upgrade later on change it back?
[18:16] <Seveas> lduros: no and yes
[18:16] <Seveas> what's so different about your /usr/local/sbin/poweroff?
[18:16] <izzard> Can anyone help me fix Grub to be able to boot into my windows 7 partition?
[18:17] <lduros> Seveas: I needed to do a few things, and a shutdown script in rc0.d wouldn't do it
[18:17] <lduros> for some reason
[18:17] <Seveas> lduros: also, using dpkg-divert you can make your change somewhat permanent
[18:17] <lduros> syslog would get a term signal before i need to do something
[18:17] <mitchelwb> doranvm: damn. the only thing being detected is my cd-rom.  I guess it's time to open it up anyway.  either it's a cable issue, or possibly an issue with one of the sata connectors or just flat dead hdd.  That would seriously annoy me.
[18:17] <lduros> Seveas: oh yeh? Never heard of dpkg-divert, I need to check it out
[18:18] <lduros> Seveas: yeh replacing the symlink in /sbin/poweroff does the trick, so I guess I'll need to use dpkg-divert
[18:19] <mitchelwb> The whole reason I switched to Ubuntu was because my old HDD quit working and I didn't have a way to reinstall windows.  This HDD isn't terribly old.  :S
[18:19] <fellayaboy> hey is there a good linux program that people can click on so that you can join there windows session..something that really doesnt require someone to download something..just a click
[18:19] <lduros> Seveas: so dpkg-divert --add /sbin/poweroff?
[18:19] <lduros> something like that
[18:19] <Seveas> lduros: you don't "need" to, but then you'll have to remember to do that every time you do an update :)
[18:19] <lduros> yeh, and it may not be me :)
[18:19] <Seveas> unsure, it's been years since I used dpkg-divert
[18:20] <lduros> then the question would arise: Why did our entire cloud stop working properly :P
[18:21] <nitishdhar> Hey guys anyone around?
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> nitishdhar: plenty around, do you have a question?
[18:22] <superboot> Hi all. Any hints as to why any ubuntu (or ubuntu based distro ie. mint) including the mini-install cd's hang after sellecting "Install" at the boot-prompt in virtualbox?
[18:23] <daninoz> hi, is any software I can install to open corel files on ubuntu?
[18:24] <nitishdhar> Yeah Schro
[18:24] <SchrodingersScat> !infor cdr2odg | daninoz
[18:24] <WACOMalt> if I have a program that failed to install via apt-get how do I flush it from the download queue so it stops messing up other installs?
[18:24] <SchrodingersScat> !info cdr2odg | daninoz
[18:24] <nitishdhar> I have a system with this config
[18:24] <nitishdhar> AMD FX 8120 Processor - 8 Cores
[18:24] <nitishdhar> Corsiar 4GB * 2 - 8GB Vengence 1600 MHz
[18:25] <nitishdhar> 120GB Corsair SSD Force
[18:25] <nitishdhar> And i have installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:25] <nitishdhar> And its very unstable
[18:25] <nitishdhar> Like chrome keeps crashing
[18:25] <nitishdhar> I keep getting segmentation faults
[18:25] <nitishdhar> Application just suddenly close
[18:25] <nitishdhar> mostly with a seg fault
[18:26] <nitishdhar> Does this have something to do with my hardware?
[18:26] <daninoz> SchrodingersScat, thanks
[18:26] <nitishdhar> Because I have ubuntu installed on other machines & it works fine
[18:26] <hyei> test your memory first?
[18:27] <fellayaboy> hey is there an alternative to screenlets...seems liek screenlets no longer works and there website id disabled
[18:27] <nitishdhar> Memory test as in?
[18:27] <nitishdhar> How do I do that
[18:27] <nitishdhar> You mean from Bios or something?
[18:28] <hyei> http://www.memtest.org/
[18:28] <Mantissa> How does one adjust case fan speeds under linux? I've tried to no avail with 'fancontrol'
[18:28] <nitishdhar> hey @hyei you think this is memory related?
[18:29] <nitishdhar> Because seriously if this is fixed then this solves all my problems
[18:29] <nitishdhar> This is the only issue making me think about switching to windows or mac
[18:29] <hyei> Could be. Is this a new build? Some AMD systems are a touchy runnign 1600+
[18:29] <nitishdhar> But all my dev work is on Ubuntu
[18:29] <nitishdhar> so :(
[18:30] <nitishdhar> Yeah this is a new buiod
[18:30] <nitishdhar> not very new
[18:30] <nitishdhar> I guess a year old
[18:30] <nitishdhar> But thats the build
[18:30] <nitishdhar> which i showed
[18:30] <hyei> I've had to RMA corsair before to get 1600 ram to work at 1600 on my 8120 before
[18:30] <superboot> hyei: I seem to remember memtest86+ has better hardware support for newer machines. FYI
[18:31] <hyei> superboot: you are probably right, I just did a quick google to grab the link. I think I use your rec too.
[18:32] <nitishdhar> Alright trying this memtest thing
[18:32] <nitishdhar> Hey what were you saying about RMA ?
[18:32] <superboot> nitishdhar: memtest86+  note the '+' it makes a big defference! memtest86 sans the '+' would hang and act all dumb on a new intell socket 2011 machine I was testing. + fixed it.
[18:32] <Yelu> alazare619, you're welcome.
[18:32] <nitishdhar> superboot: thanks
[18:32] <nitishdhar> will try now
[18:32] <alazare619> i was  trying user=DOMAIN\user but that seemed to not work s ame for username=user@domain
[18:33] <hyei> nitishdhar: I was just saying, I've had experience buying corsair 1600 ram that had issues running at 1600 on an AMD system. In the end I got a replacement from corsair that worked better
[18:33] <alazare619> looks like domain needs to be specified seperately now thats weird
[18:33] <nitishdhar> hyei: okey
[18:33] <nitishdhar> which one did you go for
[18:33] <hyei> Right now running crucial
[18:34] <Yelu> alazare619, talk to the AD/DNS admins?
[18:35] <hyei> nitishdhar: anyway my advice makes the most sense if this is a new build that never worked right. If you've had no issues for a year on the same OS, its less likely, though hardware is known to fail
[18:36] <nitishdhar> I have always had issues with ubuntu on this build
[18:36] <nitishdhar> same issues
[18:36] <nitishdhar> seg faults
[18:36] <Yelu> alazare619, yes DOMAIN is explicite
[18:36] <nitishdhar> all the time
[18:36] <nitishdhar> so motherboard, cpu and all is fine?
[18:36] <nitishdhar> the issue is mostly with ram compatibility
[18:37] <nitishdhar> I mean if I have to go for a change I just need to change the ram ?
[18:37] <hyei> if memtest+ shows failures
[18:37] <nitishdhar> ok
[18:37] <hyei> 2nd thing to check for is heat from your 8120.
[18:37] <nitishdhar> i installed sensors
[18:37] <nitishdhar> it shows normal temperatures
[18:37] <hyei> I had an issue where powermaangement wasnt working properly and had similar random crashes in windows
[18:38] <hyei> a bios update let the cpu clock down on idle and solved that issue
[18:40] <superboot> nitishdhar: Memtest is only as accurate as the length of time you run it. I would suggest 24 hours per stick of ram. then another 24 hours with both sticks installed. I tested one stick for 24 hours (it passed), and then used that stick to test each slot on the motherboad. Then test the other sticks (one at a time), and then the whole system together.
[18:40] <superboot> Again, for 24 hours at each turn.
[18:40] <superboot> It's a B$#ch
[18:40] <nitishdhar> damn
[18:40] <nitishdhar> are you serious
[18:40] <nitishdhar> I need to run this for 24 hrs?
[18:41] <superboot> how many sticks do you have?
[18:41] <nitishdhar> two
[18:41] <nitishdhar> 4gb each
[18:41] <superboot> I realy wish ther was a better answer. That looks like 3 days then.
[18:41] <hyei> my suggestion is to clock your mem down to 1333 and use it as normal. If you no longer experience any random crashes.. then you can go ahead and determin which stick is bad 1600
[18:41] <someHuman> How do I list my partitions in terminal?
[18:41] <superboot> *there
[18:41] <superboot> lsblk
[18:41] <superboot> someHuman: ^
[18:42] <nitishdhar> someHuman: I guess df -h
[18:42] <Kartagis> hi
[18:42] <Kartagis> I have a problem
[18:42] <someHuman> How do I go into my flash drive via terminal?
[18:42] <superboot> nitishdhar: I ended up having clean ram, and the problem being with my motherboard (it got bent in shipment... Don't ask...)
[18:42] <someHuman> I want to make a dir then that's where the restore files should go.
[18:43] <nitishdhar> sad this is
[18:43] <nitishdhar> so hyei: you saying i should first try bring the ram down
[18:43] <someHuman> Also, extundelete should only recover files from 10 - 11 am today. What are the parameters to use with extundelete?
[18:43] <nitishdhar> mem i mean
[18:43] <Kartagis> as soon as I plug in the HDMI cable from my TV, my laptop screen blacks out
[18:44] <superboot> someHuman: someHuman If for example your stick is 8gb, and you see a device that is 8gb in the output of lsblk, see where it is mounted. If it's not mounted anywhere (it is blank in the mount field), then issue: sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt  where X in sdX is the one matching your device (as seen in lsblk).
[18:45] <Kartagis> what can I do about that?
[18:45] <someHuman> superboot: Cool thanks!
[18:45] <superboot> someHuman: let me know if any of that is unclear.
[18:46] <someHuman> superboot: What I've done is `sudo mount /sdb/sdb1`
[18:46] <Beldar> Kartagis, did you change the display gui to use the tv as a main monitor, look there.
[18:46] <nitishdhar> wish me luck guys rebooting to try your suggestions
[18:46] <nitishdhar> thanks a ton
[18:46] <superboot> nitishdhar: I would try hyei suggesting first.
[18:46] <Kartagis> Beldar: nope
[18:46] <nitishdhar> yeah
[18:46] <nitishdhar> that i can do from BIOS?
[18:46] <Beldar> mmmm one word answers my favorite. ;)
[18:47] <nitishdhar> bringing clock for mem down
[18:47] <nitishdhar> ?
[18:48] <someHuman> Didn't work, I need to go into my flash and make a dir in there. Then run extundelete with the parameters of recovering files from 10 - 11 am today.
[18:48] <someHuman> That's all I want to do :(
[18:48] <nitishdhar> superboot: I can do that mem change from BIOS right?
[18:48] <Jordan_U> someHuman: You never recover deleted files to the same filesystem you're recovering from.
[18:49] <superboot> someHuman: /sdb/sdb1 should be /dev/sdb1
[18:49] <arctictelecom> I am setting up a new server for my business and I would want to know what I need to install so I can have an email and web server that would not require an internet connection.
[18:49] <superboot> nitishdhar: I've not messed with 'overclocking' (or in your case, underclocking), but generaly yes, the options are in the bios.
[18:49] <someHuman> Jordan_U: No, I am going to put the files to an external drive. My flash drive that is.
[18:50] <Kartagis> Beldar: well?
[18:50] <maverick173> hey superboot you there?
[18:50] <someHuman> superboot: Didn't work.
[18:51] <maverick173> superboot: joined from another box (nitishdhar) here
[18:51] <Beldar> Kartagis, Well what I gave you an option with a question and you gave me a one word answer.
[18:51] <maverick173> ill ask if I have any doubts
[18:51] <maverick173> thanks again
[18:51] <Jordan_U> someHuman: What drive are you recovering files from? What drive are you recovering files to?
[18:51] <superboot> afk for a sec guys.
[18:51] <Kartagis> Beldar: System Settings > Display shows built-in display
[18:52] <Daghdha> Hi, i was wondering. Can i configure an ubuntu machien that has two Network cards so that i can plug in a laptop in one ofthe two and just see it as if it's the/a network where i can browse and everything.
[18:52] <Kartagis> Beldar: sorry, I thought you asked if I changed that
[18:52] <Beldar> Kartagis, I'm not going to be able to help you, others can better. ;)
[18:52] <someHuman> Jordan_U: http://imgur.com/lVGOLwI
[18:52] <Daghdha> What keywords should i search for? I  tried Ubuntu as a router
[18:52] <someHuman> From /dev/sda6  to /dev/sdb1
[18:52] <Kartagis> Daghdha: why not just install samba?
[18:53] <Daghdha> It's not about filesharing, i have 1 socket there. It has Ubuntu server with  my NAS. I also wanna sit there with my laptop and i don't wanna buy a switch.
[18:53] <Daghdha> So i wanna go with the laptop on the internet TROUGH the ubuntu machine
[18:53] <Daghdha> Kartagis
[18:54] <Kartagis> Daghdha: so you wanna share your 'net
[18:54] <Daghdha> yeh
[18:54] <arctictelecom> Я создании нового сервера для моего бизнеса, и я хотел бы знать, что мне нужно установить таким образом я могу иметь электронную почту и веб-сервер, который не будет требуется подключение к интернету.
[18:54] <Kartagis> Daghdha: there's your keywords. 'ubuntu internet share'
[18:55] <Kartagis> !ru | arctictelecom
[18:55] <arctictelecom> Спасибо за помощь.
[18:56] <someHuman> Jordan_U: You still there?
[18:56] <othon> hi, someone knows matlab and talk spanish? i have a problem with compatibility with psat model
[18:57] <Beldar> othon, #ubuntu-es would be a spanish link
[18:57] <Jordan_U> someHuman: Yes.
[18:57] <someHuman> Jordan_U: I have already made the dir in the flash drive.
[18:57] <othon> thanks, but i think if here someone help me, was grat
[18:58] <Macer> i can't play music from music.xbox.com in ff
[18:58] <Macer> :/
[18:58] <Macer> what's up with that?
[18:58] <Beldar> othon, Your english seems fine though, probably many more helpers here, just an english is all.
[18:58] <Beldar> channel*
[18:58] <someHuman> Now what I want to do is go into the flash drive, then in to the dir and run extundelete with the parameters that would ONLY get me the files that were deleted between 10 AM - 12 PM today.
[18:59] <ice9> how to install pulseaudio modules?
[19:00] <KGM70> ice9, which ones?
[19:00] <Beldar> !pulseaudio | ice9 might help
[19:00] <ice9> KGM70: module-remap-sink
[19:01] <KGM70> look in your pacxkage manager for pulse, ice9
[19:01] <Jordan_U> !ics | Daghdha
[19:02] <Daghdha> Jordan_U: I checked that it does not whow the things they outline in the article on my system
[19:02] <KGM70> ice9, also pavucontrol for inut and output settings
[19:04] <Daghdha> I think i want it to be a gateway
[19:04] <Daghdha> Am i right?
[19:05] <Jordan_U> Daghdha: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:05] <Daghdha> 14 deskto, LTE.
[19:05] <Yelu> Daghdha, just ideas => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+server+as+web+proxy+avahi&
[19:06] <Daghdha> no not web, all network
[19:06] <v0lksman> hey all!  I just installed the nvidia drivers from their website.  after a reboot I'm left with a dual screen display of mis-matched resolutions but no menu or ability to launch anything.  Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[19:07] <Daghdha> Maybe i get a switch
[19:08] <Yelu> Daghdha, ok, but you can also set up sshd and or samba along with it (for the local parts)
[19:08] <Kartagis> what can I do about my laptop screen going black as soon as I plug in my HDMI cable?
[19:08] <Daghdha> Don't plug in the cable.
[19:08] <maverick173> superboot: you around?
[19:09] <Kartagis> well played Daghdha
[19:09] <Daghdha> Yelu: Thanks, but it all soundslike too much work i expected there be a silver bullet.
[19:09] <Kartagis> well played
[19:09] <superboot> maverick173: Be back in a little bit, but I realy don't know anymore about changing the memory speed. Sorry.
[19:10] <Yelu> Daghdha, then get a switch/router and have fun
[19:10]  * Daghdha nods.
[19:10] <Daghdha> Just a pity i need another extra device on 24/7 now.
[19:11] <bil> Hi.
[19:11] <KGM70> v0lksman, why use the proprietary driver when the nvidia driver your OS is better suited ?
[19:11] <ice9> how to restart pulseaudio?
[19:11] <bil> pulseaudio -k
[19:12] <KGM70> ice9, usually a reboot
[19:12] <ice9> bil: but after I do that I don't hear anything
[19:12] <ice9> KGM70: yeah but I wish if it's possible without reboot
[19:13] <bil> use pactl to figure out the available devices
[19:15] <rahul___> citrix,
[19:15] <KGM70> ice9,try sudo alsa force-reload
[19:16] <v0lksman> hrm...back with a desktop.  How do you know what version of the nvidia drivers are in use?
[19:18] <KGM70> v0lksman, lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[19:19] <v0lksman> KGM70: that tells me my card type but I'd like to know what version of the driver is in use
[19:20] <KGM70> it should tell you which driver is in use as well
[19:20] <greay> I have a RAID0 on my ubuntu box. Is it possible to add two new disks without losing the data already on the RAID?
[19:21] <v0lksman> KGM70: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7502678/
[19:23] <bil> How are you, guys?
[19:26] <fivetwentysix> Okay so when I send an email to my domain novafist.com my server doesn’t seem to receive it… Any idea how to diagnose what’s going on?
[19:26] <v0lksman> fivetwentysix: not really an ubuntu question so you should ask elsewhere but you don't have any MX records on the domain
[19:28] <greay> how do I remove a RAID0 on ubuntu?
[19:28] <sudormrf> hey guys, using dnssec-keygen for a home lan, which type should I use for the name?  it says it can't do a ZONE with the encryption I am using.
[19:30] <g0twig> wow, the suse guys are a bunch of dicks..
[19:30] <Kartagis> fivetwentysix: #ubuntu-server
[19:30] <Kartagis> g0twig: what happened?
[19:30] <g0twig> Kartagis: I went into the suse channel, asked for help, they always replied the same answer
[19:30] <g0twig> Kartagis: than you are on your own
[19:30] <guntbert> g0twig: not really Ubuntu related, is it? this is a support channel
[19:31] <g0twig> Kartagis: I wanted to install nvidia graphics drivers on suse factory..
[19:31] <g0twig> ubuntu guys are nicer...
[19:31] <Kartagis> yes we are
[19:31] <g0twig> I was myself ubuntu member.. I know
[19:32] <g0twig> the fedora guys are all right, they are full of philosophy, but the suse guys :(
[19:32] <g0twig> *alright
[19:32] <Shakey> ciao
[19:32] <Shakey> !list
[19:34] <fivetwentysix> Is this right: novafist.com.		3599	IN	MX	10 mail.novafist.com.?
[19:34] <fivetwentysix> v0lksman:
[19:34] <v0lksman> fivetwentysix: looks ok
[19:35] <kingbeowolf> whats the best way to test my read write speeds?
[19:37] <v0lksman> welp...looks like I need a new vid card
[19:39] <sudormrf> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-bind-named-configuring-tsig/ that answered my question.
[19:43] <KGM70> v0lksman, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[19:43] <nerium> Does anyone know if each bittorrent tracker keeps track of same thing for one unique torrent?
[19:44] <nerium> I mean, one magnet link with one unique hash can have more than one tracker
[19:45] <v0lksman> KGM70: thanks but that only shows you which package is installed. not necessarily in use and since I'm trying to use the proprietary drivers installed manually it doesn't help at all
[19:45] <v0lksman> the nvidia-settings tool claims I'm on the right driver.  Was just looking for a more "linux" way to check
[19:46] <KGM70> v0lksman, why not use the nvidia-current driver, if you're running 14.04 then it's most likely the 331 driver
[19:47] <v0lksman> I did but was seeing weird behaviour...I'm now running 337, but I think my card is dying/dead as I still see weird flickers and tearing
[19:47] <KGM70> VoidWhisperer, which driver did you DL from nvidia ?
[19:47] <FeymosPrick> hi, i am sorry, but i couldn't find the ubuntu offtopic channel, can someone please give its address?
[19:48] <ningu> can upstart detect when someone calls /etc/init.d/foo start? I would assume not but just want to check.
[19:48] <guntbert> !ot | FeymosPrick
[19:48] <v0lksman> KGM70: assuming that was meant for me: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-337.19.run
[19:48] <FeymosPrick> guntbert: thank you so much
[19:48] <KGM70> v0lksman, that's probly an expaerimenatl driver , not ready for prime time
[19:49] <KGM70> err experimental
[19:49] <v0lksman> KGM70: nope but the behaviour is the same between 337 and 331 so it's more likely my card
[19:49] <v0lksman> starting to think it may be a heat problem
[19:50] <KGM70> have you check the software sources v0lksman to see which drivers are default for ubuntu
[19:50] <KGM70> checked
[19:50] <v0lksman> yep...331
[19:50] <v0lksman> tried 331 from source, from download and now 337 from download
[19:50] <v0lksman> all do the same thing
[19:51] <KGM70> hmm, are you sure the card is overheating
[19:51] <KGM70> v0lksman, is this a laptop?
[19:51] <v0lksman> KGM70: that's where I'm at now...must be heat...it doesn't have a fan.  just a heat sink
[19:51] <v0lksman> nope...desktop
[19:51] <KGM70> which card?
[19:51] <v0lksman> GT220
[19:51] <v0lksman> lame little nvidia card
[19:52] <v0lksman> :)
[19:52] <v0lksman> actually it's a 216 but who's counting
[19:52] <KGM70> it's failrly old no?
[19:52] <v0lksman> yeah...likely 5 years or so
[19:52] <KGM70> then you should probly be running the 319 or lower
[19:53] <KGM70> or even nouveau
[19:53] <v0lksman> was thinking of trying that...nouveau definitely doesn't help
[19:56] <double-chk> is there a way for rsync to copy a symlink AND the directory the link points to? (ie move the directory and set the same symlink)
[19:56] <double-chk> on ubuntu 12.04
[19:57] <KGM70> v0lksman, you could try the xedgers ppa http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[19:57] <Aegir> Waar vind ik een handleiding van XChat
[19:57] <v0lksman> double-chk: there is..I forget the flag but check the man page for "follow symlinks"
[19:57] <yeticry> nvidia optimus is supported on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:58] <v0lksman> KGM70: yeah I had tried that too.  Thing is their sitting at the same version as 14.04 stock
[19:58] <v0lksman> their=they're
[19:58] <KGM70> ok
[19:58] <v0lksman> KGM70: all good...old card, assuming end of life...it served me well but time to replace... :)
[19:59] <v0lksman> KGM70: thanks for the help
[19:59] <Jordan_U> double-chk: Is the target of the symlink already included in the list of files to transfer for other reasons?
[20:01] <Bashing-om> yeticry: 2 means; http://www.webupd8.org/2013/12/more-work-to-support-nvidia-optimus.html , https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee .
[20:01] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Quit)
[20:04] <double-chk> Jordan_U: not necessarily
[20:05] <Jordan_U> double-chk: I expect that it needs to be for this to work, though I'm not sure. Is the symlink absolute or relative?
[20:06] <double-chk> Jordan_U: absolute
[20:07] <Jordan_U> double-chk: You just like making things difficult :) What is your end goal?
[20:10] <ice9> I used pulseaudio module-remap-sink to split front and rear between speakers and headphones, it's working for front only
[20:10] <maverick173> hyei: & superboot: cheers! & thanks a ton for all the help..
[20:11] <superboot> Glad to be of assistance. :) Go forth!
[20:12] <ice9> how to find how many channels the audio card has?
[20:14] <lagbox> hello
[20:14] <lagbox> does anyone know what i have to do besides installing the deb for chrome remote desktop to get chrome to recognize it is installed ?
[20:18] <adnan> test
[20:18] <k1l_> adnan: failed ;p
[20:18] <lagbox> :)
[20:19] <maverick173> hey guys
[20:19] <adnan> this was my first try on xchat
[20:19] <maverick173> I am using empathy
[20:19] <maverick173> When I try to add contact
[20:19] <maverick173> It does not let me choose account type
[20:19] <maverick173> thus failing to add a contact
[20:19] <maverick173> any leads?
[20:20] <adnan> is this something like the old mirc ?
[20:20] <dany_> ciao ragazzi
[20:20] <k1l_> adnan: yes. mirc is an irc client for irc. xchat is another client for irc
[20:21] <adnan> ah .. ok
[20:21] <maverick173> Anyone used empathy?
[20:21] <maverick173> and know about this issue?
[20:21] <adnan> it works only on linux ?
[20:21] <maverick173> Or should i just change the client?
[20:21] <guntbert> !enter | maverick173
[20:21] <dany_> è da poco che uso una distro di linux, dato che compongo musica ho scelto di installarmi ubuntustudio
[20:21] <maverick173> gunbert: whats that ?
[20:22] <k1l_> adnan: no, there are xchat versions for windows, too. but since its the ubuntu support channel we only focus on ubuntu programs :)
[20:22] <dany_> ma non riesco ad usare la tastiera muta
[20:22] <k1l_> !it | dany_
[20:22] <superboot> Hey guys. Using a ppa, apt-cache shows two versions of the package I want to install. how can I select the one I want? (I'd like to use apt-get and friends)
[20:22] <guntbert> maverick173: sorry, I wanted to tell you not to press <enter> so often, keep your posts on one line if possible
[20:22] <dany_> oh cavolo, scusatemi tanto...
[20:22] <adnan> nice :p i'm a beginner on linux
[20:22] <maverick173> I do press enter
[20:22] <maverick173> I just type the next line after it
[20:23] <dany_> good bye
[20:23] <maverick173> and press enter again
[20:23] <maverick173> no one posts between my post so they come one after the other
[20:23] <guntbert> maverick173: when you do that the channel scrolls even faster, type complete sentences, use proper punctuation, only prss <enter> when your statement is complete
[20:24] <maverick173> Oh okey, I got your point now.
[20:24] <adnan> k1l_: thank you
[20:25] <chocho1995> thank u
[20:25] <kingbeowolf> whats the best way to test my read write speeds?
[20:25] <double-chk> Jordan_U: just trying to consolidate rsync calls :)
[20:25] <double-chk> Jordan_U: I could rsync the dir and then rsync the link, or I could create the link after, but would be nice to do it all at once
[20:27] <Jordan_U> double-chk: Why do you need to sync this absolute symlink? Why can't you make it a relative link, and include the target in the list of things to sync?
[20:28] <double-chk> Jordan_U: interia mainly.. there's a lot of them and they're already absolute
[20:28] <double-chk> *inertia
[20:29] <chocho1995> can me ask u
[20:30] <OerHeks> chocho1995, terminal:   sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[20:33] <kingbeowolf> I have 4 SSDs in a raid 0 and I only get 526 MB/s read and 654 MB/s write
[20:33] <kingbeowolf> Shouldn't it be faster?
[20:34] <xxxx_> hi
[20:34] <jhutchins> kingbeowolf: Do you have a dedicated controller with on-board cache and CPU?
[20:34] <OerHeks> kingbeowolf, perform " sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda " 3-5 times and make an avarage
[20:35] <nahuel_> hola: alguien puede ayudarme con el uso de filezilla por favor
[20:35] <kingbeowolf> OerHeks: using the disk program in ubuntu to perform a benchmark
[20:35] <marxiano> nas
[20:35] <kingbeowolf> no just running a software raid with mdadm
[20:37] <skinux> Where are sources hosted for software that doesn't have source in repository?
[20:37] <CyberGabber> kingbeowolf: I was wondering, will the speed advantage of an RAID0 (on physical HDD's ) also applies to an SSD setup?
[20:38] <kingbeowolf> CyberGabber: good question i thought it would i mean people put ssds in a raid all the time
[20:38] <Ephexeve> Hey guys, how can I install Skype on Ubuntu 14.04?
[20:38] <kingbeowolf> i saw a youtube video where one guy put 25 ssds in a raid
[20:38] <leesa> Hey guys, how can I install call of duty ; ghost on my xbox one?
[20:38] <k1l_> !skype | Ephexeve
[20:39] <k1l_> leesa: we support ubuntu here and not xbox one
[20:39] <CyberGabber> kingbeowolf: On disk Raid0 is would be faster, but also
[20:39] <CyberGabber> susceptible to data loss
[20:39] <jhutchins> kingbeowolf: YYou will not see any speed increase then, system overhead takes up all the potential gain.
[20:41] <Beldar> Ephexeve, Open software and updates 2nd tab other software, make sure the canonical partners and independent repos are on, run a apt-get update than apt-get install skype     both theses commands use sudo.
[20:42] <kingbeowolf> jhutchins: there was a big jump in performance
[20:42] <kingbeowolf> jhutchins: you mean in a software raid?
[20:43] <jhutchins> kingbeowolf: Yes.
[20:44] <DeezNuts> I just switched my radeon card. I've uninstalled fglrx and need to install the open source driver via CLI. How do I do that?
[20:45] <kingbeowolf> jhutchins: i heard the performance you get from a dedicated card vs software is small
[20:45] <IamEld3st> hi
[20:46] <SchrodingersScat> IamEld3st: hello
[20:46] <IamEld3st> i dont have lamp-server package in ubuntu server 14.04
[20:47] <IamEld3st> what to do
[20:47] <leesa> whos is ubuntu ?
[20:47] <leesa> may I know who is ubuntu?
[20:47] <kingbeowolf> jhutchins: what do you think of this article http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/raid-hardware-vs-raid-software.html
[20:48] <Jordan_U> IamEld3st: Where did you get the name "lamp-server" from?
[20:48] <guntbert> !lamp | IamEld3st
[20:48] <EpicCyndaquil> leesa: what are you asking exactly?
[20:48] <OerHeks> leesa, ubuntu is not a person
[20:49] <leesa> if not a person, then what it is?
[20:49] <leesa> hellujah
[20:49] <CyberGabber> kingbeowolf: Check this term in youtube 'RAID 0 Performance with SSD' , you will find good info
[20:49] <KGM70> !ubuntu | leesa
[20:49] <OerHeks> !topic | leesa
[20:49] <k1l_> leesa: it is a operating system. like windows is a operating system
[20:50] <raalex> what kind of question is that
[20:50] <raalex> "Who is Ubuntu?"
[20:50] <kingbeowolf> CyberGabber: ok
[20:51] <DeezNuts> How do I install the open radeon driver from bash? Having to use irssi ATM.
[20:53] <freijon> raalex: could be a language problem
[20:53] <DeezNuts> I already have xserver-xorg-video-ati installed
[20:54] <raalex> I am a semi-professional troll and I know my kind ...
[20:54] <EpicCyndaquil> DeezNuts: can you start X from bash? someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 'xorg' is all you should have to type
[20:54] <freijon> DeezNuts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:55] <freijon> did you try it according to this?
[20:56] <EpicCyndaquil> freijon: I'm not sure if DeezNuts can access a web browser right now
[20:56] <freijon> oh yeah..
[20:56] <DeezNuts> I can use w3m. I'll try that link hold on
[20:56] <EpicCyndaquil> or links :)
[20:57] <DeezNuts> startx doesnt work
[20:57] <freijon> DeezNuts: did you have fglrx installed before?
[20:57] <DeezNuts> yes I used fglrx with my 7790. But I took that out and put in an older card.
[20:58] <freijon> I would uninstall fglrx and rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if it exists)
[21:00] <DeezNuts> My card will only be supported by the legacy fglrx driver. Would such work on modern trusty?
[21:01] <freijon> DeezNuts: I'm not sure I understood that correctly. Is your chip unsupported?
[21:01] <k1l_> DeezNuts: startx will not work on ubuntu
[21:01] <k1l_> DeezNuts: use "sudo lightdm start"
[21:02] <k1l_> DeezNuts: remove the fglrx package. that will load the opensource driver on next boot
[21:02] <Beldar> sudo service lightdm start
[21:04] <DeezNuts> I already removed fglrx and rebooted. I started lightdm but only have a cursor (which is an X).
[21:04] <freijon> DeezNuts: is the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf existant?
[21:05] <trndr> DeezNuts ctrl+alt+
[21:05] <trndr> T
[21:05] <trndr> DeezNuts, ctrl+alt+t in x will give a terminal
[21:06] <KGM70> DeezNuts, ctl+alt+F1-F6 login, then run the lightdm command
[21:06] <freijon> that won't work if the session did not load on reboot
[21:07] <DeezNuts> xorg.conf isn't there. Trying to open terminal doesnt work
[21:09] <dmsmr> whenever I plug a block device to my machine I see a bunch of reads on it through blkid.  How can I disable those reads?
[21:10] <Beldar> DeezNuts, Tery the failsafeX boot in the recovery
[21:10] <freijon> DeezNuts: is there anything useful when you run: dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'
[21:11] <Beldar> Try*
[21:12] <DeezNuts> Okay I'm going reboot
[21:13] <fellayaboy> everytime i install ubuntu 14.04 i get a black screen that eventually goes to a busybox with a initramfs prompt
[21:14] <Beldar> fellayaboy, Check the sum of the download.
[21:14] <dmsmr> Any udev people around?
[21:14] <Beldar> fellayaboy, This on the reboot from the install?
[21:14] <fellayaboy> ok Beldar
[21:14] <fellayaboy> yes Beldar
[21:14] <Beldar> fellayaboy, No errors in the install?
[21:14] <fellayaboy> none that i see
[21:15] <Beldar> fellayaboy, This is a standard install?
[21:16] <fellayaboy> unetbootin automatic download
[21:16] <fellayaboy> xubuntu live x64 from unetbootin program... it downloaded on the usb
[21:16] <Beldar> fellayaboy, Probably not a sum issue, but never hurts to check, not sure otherwise.
[21:17] <fellayaboy> ok thanks
[21:17] <freijon> fellayaboy: is the screen black when you "try ubuntu"?
[21:17] <Beldar> fellayaboy, I would do a regular download than load the usb, I have had problems with the unetbootin downloads
[21:18] <fellayaboy> unetbootin looked 100% fine..ran live with no issues..finished the install with no issue but ill burn to dvd
[21:18] <fellayaboy> no freijon its black when i reboot for the first time after install
[21:18] <fellayaboy> when it tells me to restart now
[21:19] <freijon> I see
[21:19] <fellayaboy> could it ever be an issue with a small screen?
[21:19] <fellayaboy> i remember i use to experience weird behavior when i had a small weird monitor
[21:19] <freijon> but you can switch to a new console?
[21:19] <fellayaboy> doesnt even let the user type when there in initramfs
[21:22] <syeekick> how does one use a text file to block multiple ips in /etc/denyhosts
[21:22] <syeekick> just append them to the bottom of the list/
[21:25] <fellayaboy> how do i determine the make and model of my motherboard from terminal
[21:28] <k1l_> fellayaboy: lshw
[21:28] <fellayaboy> thanks
[21:33] <fornax> Hi I’m currently building a docker package where I dockerize kimichi. Now I need a dependency to python-jsonschema and get an „E: Unable to locate package python-jsonschema“. I switched from gentoo to debian and I’m new to the package manager, how can I solve the problem?
[21:34] <bekks> fornax: Well, you'll have to ask the debian support then.
[21:34] <fornax> So, it does not find python-jsonschema and sosreport, is the recent debian version and i have echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:36] <Jordan_U> fornax: You're trying to add an Ubuntu repository to Debian? Do *not* do that.
[21:36] <schultza> is there any issues i need to be aware with upgrading to the latest LTS from 13.10?
[21:36] <fornax> why to debian?
[21:37] <fornax> okay, sorry i use ubuntu, not debian
[21:37] <bekks> fornax: Because of "I switched from gentoo to debian" :)
[21:37] <pammy> i need help. giant newbie. bluetooth and printer
[21:37] <bekks> Ah ok :)
[21:38] <fornax> i just said debian because of apt-get, but i use the recent ubuntu version
[21:38] <ice9> is it possible to use headphones and speakers simultaneously with pulseaudio?
[21:38] <fornax> sorry, I tried so many distributions now and think my decision is ubuntu now (before i only used it for desktop) okay, replace debian with ubuntu. Any ideas?
[21:39] <schultza> fornax: once upon a time i had it working like that
[21:39] <Jordan_U> fornax: What version of Ubuntu are you using exactly. If you don't know, please please post the output of "lsb_release -r".
[21:41] <fornax> one moment....
[21:41] <syeekick> how do i block https type sites from hosts file? /etc/hosts
[21:41] <fornax> Release:	14.04
[21:42] <Dreadlish> syeekick: hosts has nothing to do with https.
[21:42] <Dreadlish> syeekick: you want rather to block 443 port - it could be done with iptables.
[21:42] <syeekick> i know but i am blocking non https fine with the hosts file
[21:43] <Ben64> syeekick: hosts file only has to deal with dns, it doesn't and can't block protocols
[21:43] <syeekick> can
[21:44] <syeekick> and has :|
[21:44] <Ben64> i promise to you it cannot
[21:44] <Dreadlish> omg.
[21:45] <Dreadlish> Ben64: just don't bother yourself with him... as you see - he thinks hes right even if he isn't
[21:45] <pammy> need help enabling bluetooth. have exhausted my capacity as a new ubuntu user
[21:46] <syeekick> it works, i just blocked domains with it
[21:46] <fornax> Jordan_U: 14.04 … and the packages that do not install are python-jsonschema and sosreport
[21:46] <syeekick> google iit
[21:46] <Ben64> syeekick: yes, you can make name resolutions fail by using the hosts file, that does not block anything though
[21:47] <syeekick> thats all i meant
[21:47] <Ben64> syeekick: it still has nothing to do with blocking and nothing to do with http or https
[21:47] <syeekick> i can't explain what i want
[21:50] <syeekick> cant seem to block facebook though
[21:50] <gregg_> ubuntu 13.10, trying to use Livestreamer, got this message "rtmpdump is not usable and required by Filmon plugin", any suggestions?
[21:51] <fornax> no idea?
[21:55] <BSDUX> hey
[21:56] <BSDUX> i'm going to need some help with bamf on FreeBSD 10 platform .. is there anyone in here willing to help me out ?  i have compiled libwnck 3.4.7 on the system its all sorted , but when i compile bamf it keep trying to find WNCK and i have it install and the libwnck-3.pm file is in the pkgconfig <dir> i don't know whats the problem
[21:57] <holstein> !bsd
[21:57] <BSDUX> ?
[21:57] <BSDUX> well isn't bamf a ubuntu source file i'm just trying to install it on freebsd so i can get plank working
[21:57] <OerHeks> BSDUX, try ##bsd
[21:57] <holstein> BSDUX: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html is where i would start
[21:58] <BSDUX> wow u people are ignorant
[21:58] <syeekick> syee@syee:~$ sudo service networking restart
[21:58] <syeekick> [sudo] password for syee:
[21:58] <syeekick> stop: Job failed while stopping
[21:58] <syeekick> start: Job is already running: networking
[21:58] <holstein> BSDUX: if its an ubuntu file, you shouldnt use it on bsd
[21:58] <syeekick> why does it give me that segmentation fault there/
[21:58] <holstein> !volunteer | BSDUX
[21:58] <BSDUX> why not ?
[21:58] <holstein> !volunteers | BSDUX
[21:58] <fornax> It looks like python-jsonschema is not available for 14.04 or am I wrong. Is it possible to get it from another repo?
[21:58] <BSDUX> it is all open sourcre right ;)
[21:58] <holstein> BSDUX: im trying to find the bot link about attitude
[21:58] <Seveas> !info python-jsonschema
[21:58] <BSDUX> wow anyhow ok i will go to freebsd
[21:58] <BSDUX> linux community = idiots
[21:59] <Seveas> fornax: it's there.
[21:59] <fornax> and why do i get an E: Unable to locate package python-jsonschema
[21:59] <fornax> ?
[22:00] <Seveas> fornax: all I can think of is "because your sources.list is messed up".
[22:00] <OerHeks> !info python-jsonschema
[22:00] <fornax> all other packages install (only python-jsonschema and sosreport fail)
[22:00] <fornax> i have echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:01] <syeekick> any idea why i can't restart my network services?
[22:01] <OerHeks> fornax, they both are, python-jsonschema && python3-jsonschema
[22:01] <Jordan_U> fornax: Why did you replace your (presumably working) sources.lst with a single entry for an older Ubuntu release?
[22:02] <fornax> to update the package repository as said in the docker manual, i will try to remove the line...
[22:02] <Seveas> fornax: ooh, that's broken. Very, very broken.
[22:02] <fornax> you are right, removing the line fixes the error
[22:03] <Seveas> but now you have no lines in sources.list
[22:04] <fornax> hm, okay, and now?
[22:04] <fornax> I did it as in the nginx example on http://docs.docker.io/reference/builder/
[22:04] <aguitel> is anyone testing Pale Moon browser in ubuntu?
[22:05] <Seveas> fornax: here's a vanilla sources.list for trusty/14.04: http://pastebin.com/h3ii0iK0
[22:05] <phozon> Hello
[22:05] <syeekick> sad face no one here to help me :(
[22:06] <Seveas> fornax: and I would not use that tutorial. It does *really* stupid things.
[22:06] <Beldar> aguitel, You are not knew here that is not a ubuntu support question,
[22:06] <devslash> will Ubuntu Server work if  I install it on a PC and move the hard drive to a different server with different hardware
[22:06] <Jordan_U> devslash: Yes.
[22:06] <devslash> ok cool thanks
[22:06] <devslash> hi linuxuz3r
[22:06] <fornax> Seveas: Okay, thank you. Currently it seems to work without the lines. I will try to patch this and start a discussion in the docker irc about updating
[22:06] <linuxuz3r> hi
[22:07] <Jordan_U> devslash: Though it will take a little extra fiddling if either (or even both) of them use UEFI.
[22:07] <devslash> Jordan_U: isnt that mainly for mac hardware ?
[22:07] <Seveas> devslash: unfortunately it's spreading beyond those fruitboxes now
[22:08] <Jordan_U> devslash: Definitely not. Basically all new PCs ship with UEFI.
[22:08] <devslash> this is a server
[22:09] <Jordan_U> devslash: Some servers use UEFI, some don't. You'll have to check.
[22:10] <knomt> help, i just installed gimp 2.8, and I used the terminal to run it as root on first run (because I needed export the image to the system wallpaper folder, which worked fine); problem is when starting gimp again it always gives an error message saying it can't create a swap file in home/me/.gimp-2.8/ (it created some of these files with root ownership but I don't want to run gimp as root everytime) is there a list of standard permissions 
[22:10] <holstein> knomt: i wouldnt do that..
[22:11] <holstein> knomt: just make the file with Gimp as normal, and move the file afterwards as root in the terminal
[22:11] <knomt> too late
[22:11] <oddozilla> Hi, I am on ubuntu 14.04, how can I change keyboard layout?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> knomt: Don't ever run applications as root unless you need to, *and* they were designed to be run as root.
[22:11] <Seveas> knomt: sudo chown -R your_login ~/.gimp-2.8
[22:11] <exported> knomt: for future reference i would run it as regular user and copy as root to wallpaper folder.
[22:12] <knomt> ok I'll make sure to remember that. not very intuitive but fair enough
[22:12] <Seveas> knomt: if you want to run gui programs as root, use sudo -H so it won't write in your homedir.
[22:12] <knomt> but now is it safe to give user ownership to the whole gimp hidden folder in my home/user/ directory or should i do it on a file-by-file basis?
[22:13] <knomt> hmm thanx seveas
[22:13] <holstein> knomt: no
[22:13] <Seveas> knomt: it is sage to change all files.
[22:13] <holstein> knomt: do it just as suggested..
[22:13] <Seveas> knomt: chown -R as I said above :)
[22:13] <rafaelpt1> hi
[22:13] <exported> knomt: i'm assuming you should have all perms for stuff made in your home dir. but as i said i can't see how it would be that hard to move the file as root and not run gimp as root at all.
[22:13] <rafaelpt1> Anybody here can help me?
[22:14] <Seveas> !anyone | rafaelpt1
[22:14] <Seveas> oh yeah, silly mods removed that.
[22:14] <Seveas> rafaelpt1: just ask your question.
[22:14] <sp3ck> rafaelpt1, just shoot the question!!!
[22:14] <rafaelpt1> Hi. Thanks. I'm running xubuntu
[22:15] <rafaelpt1> and i've installed GNOME desktop
[22:15] <rafaelpt1> now I can't edit GNOME bars/panels
[22:15] <knomt> exported: it seemed easier to export directly to the intended folder and not a temporary one hence the root, but since it was on first run after install it also locked all my home preference folder :s
[22:15] <Seveas> !enter | rafaelpt1
[22:15] <Seveas> oh ffs
[22:15] <Seveas> did they remove that too
[22:16] <rafaelpt1> I've tried alt+righ click
[22:16] <Seveas> rafaelpt1: don't use the enter key as punctuation. That's what commas are for :)
[22:16] <exported> knomt: seems like it would have put it all in /root but nonetheless i'm sure you should be able to safely change the perms as long as they are in your ~/ not /root's
[22:16] <rafaelpt1> sorry
[22:17] <Seveas> exported: it puts it in $HOME. sudo doesn't reset that variable, so it's put in yout homedir. When you use sudo -H, the $HOME variable does get reset, so the program will write to root's home
[22:17] <sp3ck> Seveas, :) i started to think that nobody will ever tell him..
[22:17] <exported> Seveas: regardless it's still necessary to NOT run things as root when it isn't necessary at all.
[22:18] <fornax> Seveas: Best thanks, this was my first success today :-) Now I can go forward… reported the outdated config
[22:19] <rafaelpt1> and i've installed GNOME desktop, now I can't edit GNOME bars/panels.
[22:20] <aarobc> Is there a way I could add a context to right click on a document and it would open it in a terminal in vim?
[22:21] <Seveas> hmm, looks like sudo on 14.04 always resets $HOME
[22:21] <alumno__> hola,ustedes saben como instalar drivrs nvidia en huayra/simbisan?? gracias
[22:22] <k1l_> !spanish
[22:23] <Beldar> rafaelpt1, Check out the extensions on line, not really an edit for the top bar, but extension tweaks. Be exact in what you want here.
[22:23] <rafaelpt1> Well, that's not the case
[22:23] <Beldar> rafaelpt1, As well thie the fallbacl or gnome shell?
[22:23] <knomt> Seveas: re:sudo chown -R your_login ~/.gimp-2.8 - i'm trying to make sure i enter the exact directory by first checking it exists but it's hidden and "sudo dir" or "sudo ls" doesn't seem to help in that regard. I also had a look at "help dir" and there seems to be no argument for displaying hidden elements :S
[22:23] <Beldar> this*
[22:23] <alumno__> gracias kil ubottu
[22:23] <rafaelpt1> actually, as far as I know, you can edit panels in Gnome.
[22:24] <rafaelpt1> But I think I got the problem
[22:24] <Seveas> yes, sudo 1.7.4 resets $HOME by default. knomt ls -la
[22:24] <trndr> knomt, ls -la
[22:24] <rafaelpt1> thanks anyway
[22:24] <Beldar> !who | rafaelpt1
[22:25] <Beldar> rafaelpt1, There is more than one gnome desktop, so.....................................
[22:25] <knomt> ok thanks ill try that
[22:27] <sp3ck> rafaelpt1, what do u mean "edit"? What exactly is the goal?
[22:29] <Blue12> I am running 64 bit xubuntu (14.04) -- I installed the gnome-session-fallback, (yes I did reboot) but the login screen does not give me any login options.
[22:29] <knomt> re: gimp - seems to be working fine again thx
[22:31] <Beldar> Blue12, how did you install? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session
[22:31] <asspire> Im a new ubuntu 14 user and i need to get my lexmark x2530 printer working, cant find a driver for it anf all the info ive found for making a driver doesnt work!
[22:32] <Blue12> Beldar: stock xubuntu install, then I did an apt-get for gnome-session-fallback
[22:33] <rdz> is it possible to convert ~/.config/dconf/user to a human readable format?
[22:34] <Seveas> rdz: gsettings list-recursively
[22:34] <Beldar> Blue12, I assume you hit the drop down at the login, should be there. You been doing any removing the bloat?
[22:34] <asspire> ive got a sh. file but i cant get it to run as per the directions ive found
[22:34] <Blue12> Beldar: there is no dropdown - that is the problem
[22:34] <Seveas> rdz: or dconf dump /
[22:35] <Beldar> Blue12, I'm not up on xubuntu anymore so maybe others are.
[22:35] <Blue12> Beldar: nor I.  Thank you though.
[22:36] <knomt> Seveas: re: files and permissions - a. ~/.gimp-2.8 still group set as "root", although the owner is now me. Is it of any significance? b. If I understand correctly, the difference between "dir" and "ls" is that the latter has something to do with "bash". what is the best way to get help for such commands from the terminal?
[22:36] <Seveas> knomt: sudo chgrp -R your_login ~/.gimp-2.8
[22:36] <knomt> k
[22:36] <Blue12> Beldar: the context switching in ubuntu-gnome proved to be daunting, and clumsy (for me) -- so I went this route - I could live with xfce though
[22:37] <asspire> anyone have any ideas?
[22:37] <Seveas> !abs | knomt, if you're interested in learning more about the shell
[22:37] <knomt> Seveas: is that an irc or terminal command?
[22:38] <Beldar> Blue12, I have the shell, but use the cairo dock and synapse mainly.
[22:38] <rdz> Seveas, thanks a lot
[22:38] <knomt> ubottu: thx
[22:38] <knomt> arf
[22:38] <Seveas> knomt: chgrp is a terminal command.
[22:38] <Blue12> Beldar: tell me about the dock, if you have a moment
[22:38] <knomt> Seveas: no I means !abs but nvm
[22:39] <knomt> :°
[22:39] <knomt> :)
[22:39] <Seveas> knomt: oh, that's to make ubottu say something useful
[22:39] <Seveas> ubottu: please tell knomt about yourself
[22:39] <knomt> Seveas: thx a lot
[22:39] <Beldar> Blue12, It is in the repos but this page has a picture and info, lots of tweaking possible, and you can just purge it if needed. http://glx-dock.org/
[22:40] <rdz> Seveas, that command is outputting something even if i remove ~/.config/dconf
[22:40] <Seveas> rdz: which one?
[22:40] <rdz> is that stored in the running session?
[22:40] <Blue12> beldar that looks very nice!
[22:40] <rdz> gsettings list-recursively
[22:40] <Beldar> Blue12, I like it, but even more synapse similar to docker.
[22:40] <Seveas> yes, that is stored in the running session. There's also global settings and global defaults.
[22:42] <Blue12> beldar is that in the repo?
[22:42] <Beldar> Blue12, The config of cairo is in .config so if you have another OS and want the same dock just slip it in.
[22:42] <Blue12> nice
[22:42] <Beldar> Blue12, Yeah sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[22:43] <Blue12> Beldar: thanks - yup it is in the repo - yeah - I will have to give that a try -- thank you!
[22:43] <Beldar> Blue12, NO problem, it actually makes a cairo-desktop I never use it though.
[22:43] <sl33k_> What is port forwarding and how to do it on my box?
[22:44] <Seveas> sl33k_: if you don't know what it is, how do you know you want it?
[22:44] <Beldar> google foo google foo
[22:51] <alami> hello, i have installed ubuntu 14.04 and with a single user, and now i can't run command with sudo
[22:51] <alami> can any one help?
[22:52] <alami> that's a dangerous bug
[22:52] <Beldar> alami, What happens when you try, details count here.
[22:52] <alami> Beldar: what do you mean?
[22:53] <Beldar> alami, " i can't run command with sudo" What happens when you try
[22:53] <alami> alami is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[22:53] <Beldar> alami, YOu remove the original account, or in the guest?
[22:53] <alami> Beldar: i havn't do anything
[22:54] <alami> that's ny second restart of a new installtion
[22:54] <trndr> alami, if you are the only user and always have been, then you should most defenatly be in sudoers
[22:55] <Beldar> alami, Not sure how this is a bug or dangerous. Have you tried checking the sum of the download, and are you familiar with the OS?
[22:55] <Seveas> trndr: run this command and paste the output: id
[22:55] <alami> trndr: i know what you say, but that's a bug
[22:55] <rdz> Seveas, ok.. i get it now.. gsettings is always outputting something, and if there is no ~/.config/dconf it'll output default values
[22:56] <alami> Beldar: i'm familia with ubuntu, and i  have installed from the same media, and befor was everything just good
[22:56] <Seveas> alami: run this command and paste the output: id
[22:56] <alami> uid=1000(alami) gid=1000(alami) groups=1000(alami),125(vboxusers)
[22:56] <Beldar> alami, If the same media, than how is this a bug, this a magical bug?
[22:57] <Seveas> alami: you screwed it up yourself
[22:57] <Beldar> exactly
[22:57] <Seveas> by removing yourself from the admins group or deleting that group.
[22:57] <Seveas> you also removed yourself from quite a few more groups, limiting what you can do even further
[22:58] <alami> Seveas: so do you think, booting with installation media, and add my user to the admin group will help?
[22:58] <alami> or how can repaire this?
[22:58] <Seveas> alami: reboot into recovery mode and re-add yourself to the sudo, adm, cdrom, dip, plugdev and ldapdmin group.
[22:59] <Seveas> and stop crying about bugs when you screw things up yourself.
[22:59] <alami> Seveas: is that all ? sudo, adm, cdrom, dip, plugdev and ldapdmin
[22:59] <Seveas> that's the groups I'm in, and I'm on a fairly new install
[23:00] <alami> Seveas:i think i have run useradd wrong
[23:00] <Seveas> alami: no. useradd doesn't remove you from groups.
[23:00] <SameDay> quit
[23:01] <human_being> Hey, anyone from Latvia ? Its a specific question about latvian language keyboard layout ??
[23:01] <Seveas> !lv
[23:02] <Seveas> human_being: try #ubuntu-lv
[23:02] <human_being> ok
[23:02] <human_being> thanks
[23:03] <alami> Seveas: http://pastie.org/9200589 can you tell me wich one was wrong here?
[23:03] <Seveas> alami: the usermod commands
[23:04] <alami> Seveas: ahh okay thanks
[23:04] <Seveas> you removed all secondary groups and added only 'vboxusers' back. To add only a single group: gpasswd -a user_here group_here
[23:18] <pixelkong> holaa!
[23:22] <human_being> Which IRC client are you guys using ?
[23:22] <SameDay> weechat..
[23:22] <Avon> ^
[23:22] <SameDay> Well, I just went back to it.
[23:29] <meccooll> what's the best desktop environment for dual screens? Can't get unity to load at all and LXDE is kinda buggy
[23:30] <oni7> testing
[23:30] <alami> hello, i cant change /etc/group in recovery mode , or either with live cd
[23:31] <dw1> alami: in recovery you may need to remount read/write.  on live cd you would need to mount the filesystem
[23:32] <alami> dw1 i have mouthed the file szstem
[23:32] <oni7> how do i go about mounting a windows file system within a live cd
[23:32] <alami> i can read the file
[23:33] <dw1> alami: in reovery mode it would be mount -o remount,rw /
[23:33] <alami> dw1: im now on live cd
[23:33] <dw1> alami: make sure its mounted rw
[23:36] <jeffrey3234> what would be the equivelant of "rpm --query --info logwatch" on ubuntu?
[23:36] <dw1> sudo apt-cache search <package> maybe
[23:36] <dw1> whats the other one
[23:36] <jeffrey3234> its shows all files that have been added to the system
[23:36] <Seveas> jeffrey3234: apt-cache show
[23:37] <jeffrey3234> inculuding conf files
[23:37] <dw1> sudo apt-cache show php5
[23:37] <dw1> wups wrong window :p
[23:37] <oni7> Can I delete a win7 admin password file by mounting the file system in a live cd? Spining up a vm to test this but if its no doable save me some time and say so
[23:37] <jeffrey3234> thanks
[23:37] <Seveas> and for files: dpkg -L pkgnanme_here
[23:38] <dw1> oni7: probably with the right tool
[23:38] <oni7> I am thinking without the right tool like by hand
[23:38] <oni7> I have the tools but want to learn to do it if all i have is a random live cd
[23:39] <dw1> you can always download the right tool from a live cd
[23:40] <dw1> most likely
[23:40] <dw1> oni7: http://www.slashgeek.net/2012/06/09/reset-windows-password-with-linux-in-under-5-minutes/
[23:41] <oni7> thanks ill take a look at that
[23:41] <CharlesIC> HELP
[23:41] <cowboykitty> oni7: the correct tool is on the ubuntu  live disk - chntpw
[23:41] <CharlesIC> http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2013-January/026238.html
[23:41] <CharlesIC> im having this problem
[23:41] <CharlesIC> missing pidgin icon, but the fix here didn't fix it
[23:42] <Scunizi> Hey.. did the latest update break Java in Chrome stable? Yesterday it was working today it's not.. I'm running 12.04
[23:43] <alami> dw1,  sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,remount -force /dev/sda1 /media/untitled dosnt help
[23:46] <Allen> Hello.
[23:47] <Allen> I have noticed one glaring weakness in using a VPN...
[23:47] <Allen> If the VPN is supplied by company V, we'll say...
[23:48] <Allen> And if, unbeknownst to the users of company Vs VPN, company V is not entirely trustworthy...
[23:48] <oni7> ^ who has not noticed ths
[23:48] <oni7> this
[23:48] <OerHeks> Allan how is this related to ubuntu support? join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat  sm conspiracys
[23:48] <alami>  sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,remount -force /dev/sda1 /media/untitled dosnt help
[23:48] <Seveas> where's my tinfoil hat?
[23:49] <oni7> if you use someones VPN to do something bad they are going to rat you out
[23:49] <OerHeks> alami, hfsplus is apple?
[23:49] <oni7> the tinfoil is a lie
[23:49] <cleerline> Hi, I am new here. What would be an appropriate channel to discuss what would be an approritate channel to ask about how to go about open sourcing my game?
[23:49] <Allen> My concern would be that someone would be providing their VPN to snatch sensitive information like bank account information or somesuch...
[23:50] <alami> OerHeks> no i have also try sudo mount -o rw,remount -force /dev/sda1 /media/untitled
[23:50] <alami> but don\t work
[23:50] <alami> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:50] <Seveas> cleerline: come to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:50] <alami> and fdisk -l tell me sda1
[23:50] <cleerline> OK, thank you
[23:50] <OerHeks> alami, yes hfsplus is apple.
[23:51] <OerHeks> alami, do not make it rewritable, does not go very well on linux. and win7 hacking password  on apple?
[23:51] <alami> OerHeksi don|t want to hack password i want to change /etc/group
[23:51] <OerHeks> alami, please go to ##windows. this is ubuntu support, thanks.
[23:52] <alami> Seveas. do you know my problem can you help please
[23:52] <Allen> Ok, apologies, folks.  :)
[23:53] <alami> OerHeks, i dont have windows or apple i have ubuntu
[23:53] <alami> and i have mis used usermod command
[23:53] <alami> now i cant do any thing with my user
[23:54] <alami> and i want to repaire it
[23:54] <alami> with live cd
[23:54] <sendak> What dpkg command shows the package a certain file belongs to?
[23:56] <sendak> Sharon Gazi hacked the system.
[23:56] <OerHeks> alami, then what usermod did you do exactly?
[23:57] <SchrodingersScat> sendak: you mean apt-file?
[23:57] <Edison18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bitly.com/1kukJH3
[23:58] <SchrodingersScat> Edison18: I don't like funny videos, nor those who enjoy them.
[23:59] <OerHeks> !ops | Edison18
[23:59] <sendak> SchrodingersScat is back?
[23:59] <SchrodingersScat> sendak: obviously that's not dpkg, but your words made me think you wanted apt-file..