[05:01] <OvenWerks> zequence_: looking into /etc/xdg/autostart/ for maybe starting jackd at session start and I notice that most of the autostarts are in the directory already listed.
[05:01] <OvenWerks> but there is one file in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/autostart/
[05:02] <OvenWerks> xfce4-tips-autostart.desktop
[05:03] <OvenWerks> Is there a reason this is not with the others? does it actually do something unique to studio?
[05:04] <OvenWerks> I am thinking it could be moved in with the rest for easier maint.
[05:05] <OvenWerks> It looks like it is a remnant from basing studio on xubuntu in 11.10
[05:05] <OvenWerks> good night
[06:02] <zequence_> OvenWerks: Yes, it must have been there since the start.
[06:04] <zequence_> OvenWerks: I don't think autostarting jack should be done in a permanent fashion. It needs to be settable. -controls would have a autostart script, which would read through the user settings file to look for certain things, like: 1. is -controls set to autostart? 2. is jack set to autostart?, etc..
[12:34] <ttoine> zequence_, hello
[12:34] <ttoine> are you hre ?
[12:34] <ttoine> here
[12:47] <zequence_> ttoine: Hi
[12:56] <zequence> ttoine: I'll be away for a moment, but I'm logging, so I can read later.
[13:10] <ttoine> zequence, ok
[13:20] <zequence> ttoine: I'm back
[13:27] <ttoine> zequence, great
[13:27] <ttoine> just a word about the footer of the ubuntustudio.org
[13:28] <ttoine> I get another inquiry of Canonical legal staff: they would like us to add the same modification that I add to do for the merchandise
[13:28] <ttoine> it means telling that we are not affiliated with Canoncial
[13:28] <ttoine> I think they are gonna unsupport us in a very few time
[13:30] <zequence> ttoine: You mean, for the website, or just for the merchandise page?
[13:31] <ttoine> for the merchandise I already did it, both at the bottom the merchandise page of ubuntustudio.org, and the spreadshirt shop
[13:31] <ttoine> however they want us to edit the footer
[13:31] <ttoine> I can't do that with my account...
[13:32] <zequence> ttoine: Ah, that needs to be done for the wp theme
[13:33] <ttoine> yes, sure
[13:33] <zequence> ttoine: Let me do that tomorrow. We can't upload changes ourselves. Done by Canonical sysadmins
[13:33] <ttoine> ok
[13:33] <ttoine> there is no urgency
[13:34] <ttoine> you can use the same modification that I did
[14:53] <cub> hi ttoine 
[14:53] <cub> I read the logs and you wrote earlier "I think they are gonna unsupport us in a very few time" about the footer and "not affiliated with Canonical"
[14:54] <cub> Could you elaborate a bit? You think Canonical will stop providing like web hosting or you think Ubuntu Studio might be excluded as a official distribution of the Ubuntu family?
[14:55] <ttoine> cub hi
[14:55] <ttoine> I think, yes
[14:56] <ttoine> because for a few weeks, they are asking me to mark more on our websites that we are not affiliated with Ubuntu and Canonical
[14:56] <cub> yes on both questions or? :D
[14:56] <cub> aha even with Ubuntu?
[14:56] <ttoine> we might be excluded of the official distribution
[14:56] <ttoine> for the rest, I don"t know
[14:56] <ttoine> or maybe this is just a new legal guy at Canonical that wants to make stuff clear
[14:56] <ttoine> strange
[14:57] <elfy> ‎I would have thought that they'd need to talk to 'you' before they did that
[14:57] <cub> because the footer on spreadshirt only say Canonical
[14:57] <elfy> and I would double check with this legal - wouldn't be the first hiccup from someone new in 'legal'
[14:59] <cub> Otherwise I would reach out to Jono quick before he leaves. :P
[15:00] <cub> I understand if they want to say Ubuntu Studio is not affiliated with Canonical, that makes sense. But not affiliated with Ubuntu, that would propose some questions
[15:01] <zequence> I don't believe for a second they would stop letting us be an official distro
[15:02] <zequence> Makes sense that they want to make clear that we are not affiliated with Canonical
[15:02] <zequence> We should probably make that even clearer in our info pages
[15:02] <elfy> zequence: I'd agree - I'm sure this is a hiccup in legal - I would really get some clarification on this
[15:02] <elfy> ^^ said with my other hat on
[15:03] <zequence> elfy: I added you to the ubuntustudio-release team just now
[15:03] <elfy> aah okey doke - I'll see if I can poke about in the innards of the trackers then
[15:04] <zequence> Time for a beer in the sun with my lady :)
[15:04] <cub> nice
[15:04] <cub> summer in Gothenburg as well?
[15:04] <zequence> yep
[15:05] <cub> Stockholm too, but I'm stuck inside the office. :P
[15:05] <zequence> Actually, I need to wait another hour :(
[15:07] <cub> Gotta go back to the work stuff. :/
[15:07] <elfy> zequence: don't drink too much alone :p
[15:07] <elfy> ttoine: not sure if you read my comment above about double checking what they're after you doing and why
[15:18] <zequence> elfy: It's too for that. But, I might go a little realier
[15:18] <zequence> earlier*
[15:19] <elfy> I guessed :)
[15:19] <ttoine> hum
[15:20] <zequence> I meant to say too hot.
[15:20] <ttoine> zequence, kubuntu developers are not anymore supported by Canonical
[15:20] <ttoine> and if you look at their website, they are highlighting Server and Cloud edition
[15:20] <ttoine> Desktop edition come third
[15:21] <zequence> That doesn't mean they are shutting down the whole community
[15:22] <elfy> kubuntu is a different situation 
[15:23] <zequence> I suppose Kubuntu has another history, back in the time when Gnome and KDE were the main competitors. Canonical maintained Gnome, while Kubuntu maintained KDE.
[15:24] <zequence> With Unity, things have changed. And Canonical is also relying less on the community.
[15:24] <zequence> Well, at least not in the same old way
[16:08] <ttoine> wait and see
[21:17] <OvenWerks> Any idea why our "make Startup Disk" App won't see mini.iso?
[22:24] <zequence> OvenWerks: No idea. If you like, use dd: dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sd*
[22:24] <zequence> replace 
[22:25] <zequence> replace  * with a letter, but not with the additional partition number
[22:25] <zequence> It will wipe the whole usb device, but the ISO will only take the amount of space in one partition as it is big
[22:25] <zequence> So, you end up with some additional space
[22:25] <zequence> free space, that is