[00:21] robru, hey, could I get a silo for line 5 please? [00:23] Saviq, sure, you got silo 6 [00:23] robru, thanks! [00:23] Saviq, you're welcome! [02:10] === trainguard: IMAGE 45 building (started: 20140523 02:10) === [03:25] === trainguard: IMAGE 45 DONE (finished: 20140523 03:25) === [03:25] === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/45.changes === === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [06:57] fginther`, ping. The autolanding job for calc seems to not be running by itself.. also, is the job name different or ? Because I manually launched it and it ran via Xvfb [06:57] balloons, let me investigate [06:59] balloons, this is the job that gets triggered now: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/ubuntu-clock-app-autolanding/ === fginther` is now known as fginther [07:01] fginther, this is for calculator [07:02] balloons, argh, soory [07:10] balloons, I think I fixed it. I forgot to add the team to the autolanding users list [07:11] fginther, ok, we'll see how it goes [07:17] balloons, a new job has been automatically triggered: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/ubuntu-calculator-app-autolanding/3/ [07:24] ogra_: When you have some time, could we talk a bit about ideas to enhance image changelogs? [07:25] ToyKeeper: right now I'm working on implementing a so called 'commit log', which would combine data from image changelogs with silo data [07:25] ToyKeeper: not sure if that would help? [07:26] sil2100: That sounds wonderful. :) [07:26] I was specifically hoping to get all the silo data from the spreadsheet into the image changelog. [07:27] ToyKeeper: then it's in the works ;) But being done somewhere in the background [07:27] Maybe next week it'll be done [07:27] When I'm testing an image, I want to know more than just what packages changed, but also what features changed, why, who did it, where the MP is, what test plan(s) are related, etc. [07:27] It'd also be nice to have a combined changelog file with all images logged in one file, for easier grepping. [07:44] ogra_, ping [07:50] anyone around who knows about the ubuntu-sdk-14.10-qml-dev1 framework and its status within the images? we're trying to test moving the music-app to mediascanner2 but need to test the new framework within the image [07:58] ToyKeeper: can you just confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1322490 ← Wellark I'm assuming this is a bug for you please change it if it isn't [07:58] Ubuntu bug 1322490 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Clicking on the checkbox to disconnect from an ap sometimes disconnects but always leaves the box checked" [High,New] [07:58] ToyKeeper, did you check jibels version of my changelog stuff ? its a lot more detailed (i should put a link on my pages) [07:58] ahayzen_, theoretically all bits and pieces should be in place on the images [07:58] ogra_, hmm the app doesn't even start and there is no log for it. any idea of any other logs i should look at? [07:59] sil2100: ^ one to add the new blocker list there are a couple more to come (I did say there were bug I'm not sure it popey mentioned it though :D ) [07:59] uh, no idea ... syslog for a start ... look for DENIED messages from apparmor ... and your own logs of the app indeed [07:59] davmor2: Sounds like the one I just filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-network/+bug/1322497 [07:59] Ubuntu bug 1322497 in Network Menu "can't un-check a wifi network" [Undecided,New] [08:00] Bah [08:00] ToyKeeper, here is an example http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/20140417.html [08:01] sil2100, so 45 looks pretty bad for UITK [08:02] ogra_: I wonder what happened, there was no new UITK upload at least [08:03] lots of Qt was updated [08:03] unity8 too [08:03] OMG ! [08:03] ogra_: It's better, but still missing things like a link to the MP(s) and test plan(s). And it's not indexed by build number (like "utopic 45"). [08:03] the dialer-app error is gone ! [08:05] ToyKeeper, well, i guess then what sil2100 is setting up should be better for you (i really dont plan to have my stuff link to each and every possible MP ... sounds like that is whjat he plans [08:05] ogra_: I remember publishing a dialer-app fix yesterday night I think! [08:05] yep [08:05] Part of what we're trying to do is make it easier to identify where something broke and which image/branch/developer it was from. Makes bisecting much easier. [08:06] Another goal is to help testers know what to focus on for each image. [08:06] ToyKeeper, i would need info for that that sil2100 has easier available from his ci train stuff [08:06] ... and a third goal is to identify gaps in test plans. [08:06] ogra_, ah i was on #44 appears #45 is out now :) [08:07] ToyKeeper, though that wont really solve your problem .. the changelogs pof the packages are usually mangled a lot by the merge bots or because people using them dont follow package policy at all [08:07] ToyKeeper, we geed to first get the devs to do that proper ;) [08:07] *need [08:07] Yes, too many change logs of "bug fixes" and nothing else. [08:08] ToyKeeper, and most changes we have were done by "CI Bot" ... :P [08:08] you wont be able to identify it without digging [08:08] In any case, sounds like sil2100's project should be an improvement. [08:09] Good to hear it could be useful! [08:09] we have a pretty clear policy about package changelogs ... the prob is that we let people upload (indirectly) who never learned packaging [08:09] so lot of required info gets lost [08:10] and our tools dont really cover that yet [08:10] * ogra_ would like to have an extra field on the MP form "package and dependency changes" where you need to list such stuff for example [08:10] ogra_, hmm or not it still doesn't run, there is no app log in ~/.cache/upstart and i haven't spotted anything obvious in syslog, dmesg and auth.log as of yet... [08:11] ahayzen_, there must be an app log else your app wasnt started at all [08:11] (like: your prob might be in the desktop file or so) [08:11] ogra_, yeah thts wht it looks like it just flashes white screen then goes back to the dash [08:12] do you have enough free diskspace ? [08:12] ogra_, hmm but it works for Victor this is strange [08:12] same image version ? [08:12] (and same setup ? no debs installed, image readonly etc ) [08:13] ogra_, hang on it still thinks it is on #44 even though it rebooted and reflashed?! and is now asking to restart again [08:13] compyre your systems ... that should help [08:13] * ogra_ gets coffee before the meeting [08:13] ogra_, i think the update failed [08:17] didrocks, sil2100 morning! are we out of conf-0 ? [08:18] mandel: I'm not really in charge, but that's what I think I read on sil2100's email [08:18] didrocks, oh, I forgot you moved, sorry :) [08:18] mandel: yes, we are [08:18] :) [08:18] sil2100, sweet, I'll get a request for udm then :) [08:25] * ogra_ looks at the UITK issue [08:25] popey: did you have some apps to upload? [08:25] File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/autopilot/introspection/__init__.py", line 173, in get_proxy_object_for_existing_process [08:25] raise ProcessSearchError(message_string) [08:25] hmm [08:25] ogra_: what's up? [08:25] does the UITK install autopilot-legacy ? [08:26] thomi, we have half of the UITK tests failing in the last image ... i was wondering about the python2.7 in all these error messages [08:27] sadly someon is already re-running them so there are not more logs i can look at [08:27] ogra_: if you get that in a stack trace then the legacy packages *must* be installed, right? [08:27] I don't think there's any way to get those files in utopic except by installing the -legacy packages [08:27] since the 1.5 packages don't install py2 files [08:28] yeah, i'm not debating *that* they are installed ... i was wondering if they *should* ;) [08:28] oh, right [08:28] :) [08:28] I'm not sure what their test policy is there, sorry - ping me if you need any autopilot help though :) [08:29] something clearly changed between 44 and 45 that made 84 tests fail ... [08:29] right, i doubt it is an autopilot issue [08:31] I wonder what could be the problem [08:31] But... I actually saw something similar already in the past I think [08:31] Most probably that's why someone re-ran the UITK tests, as before a re-run helped [08:32] Mirv: not yet [08:32] ogra_: meeting :) [08:32] well, the logs would have been nice still ... they werent synced [08:32] ouf [08:32] mandel: can I use your silo for experiments? ;) [08:32] sil2100, what, the udm silo? [08:33] sil2100, sure, what do you want to test? [08:33] popey, davmor2: are you guys busy today? :) [08:33] mandel: let me get back to you after the meeting [08:33] sil2100, sure [08:35] sil2100: there's a few sessions, why? [08:35] popey: just asking if you guys will be on the meeting, nm now since you joined ;) [08:37] ah [08:42] mandel: what would be the ETA for landing the udm fixes you want a silo for? :) [08:43] sil2100, well, is not super urgent unless sergiusens needs the mms changes to be in trunk, the rest of the bugs are not critical (although they are marked as being as critical) [08:44] sil2100, and sergiusens has a ppa with what he needs, so we are good, why? [08:47] davmor2: am filing terminal bug about font [08:47] popey: ping me with it I will confirm it :) [08:48] mandel: I sent you an email; it doesn't work [08:48] mandel: so a silo would be good [08:48] sergiusens, hm.. really, I missed the mail, let me check [08:48] your udm in the ppa wants to remove all my apps [08:49] sergiusens, wtf? [08:49] sergiusens, really? [08:49] the package version is bad [08:49] don't use the recipe thing [08:49] sergiusens, hm.. I did not get the email, care to re-send it? [08:50] sergiusens, we are in the q for a silo, but sil2100 is asking funny questions... [08:51] mandel: it seems I don't have it either, brain dead [08:51] anyways, it doesn't work, did you test it? [08:51] sergiusens, no, I expected the recepi to do the right thing [08:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1322527 [08:55] Ubuntu bug 1322527 in Ubuntu Terminal App "Terminal app shows no text in #44 on mako" [Undecided,New] [08:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1322529 [08:59] Ubuntu bug 1322529 in Ubuntu Terminal App "Terminal is laggy and hard to operate" [Undecided,New] [09:14] mandel: I gave you the silo now [09:16] mandel: does that silo include my upload fixes? [09:17] ah, it seems it does [09:17] * sergiusens goes and builds [09:27] mandel: sorry, I was in a meeting [09:27] Ah, Mirv already assigned a normal silo it seems, too bad ;/ [09:32] * sil2100 wanted to use the preprod silo [09:40] sil2100: oh! so what's in preprod? [09:42] Mirv: some changes I wanted to experiment with, I need that to generate the commit log === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:49] sil2100: hey, I noticed silo 20 is assigned to me for the click-apparmor and apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu uploads from yesterday. it is all in the archive already and the silo can be freed [09:49] jdstrand: oh, I thought it was freed, let me take a look [09:50] Ah [09:50] sil2100: yesterday I had 06, which is what was freed, but now I have 20 [09:50] It seems Robert assigned the silo after I freed it [09:50] ok [09:50] Since we didn't mention it being 'Landed' ;) [09:50] jdstrand: thanks for noticing! [09:50] :) [09:50] np [09:51] Mirv: so, for this feature to get tested, I actually need the publishing step performed [09:51] Mirv: so if you have any landing that is rather safe and would quickly be published, feel free to assign preprod to it ;p [09:52] Wellark: ping [09:53] Wellark: so, could you take a look at two things? [09:54] Wellark: 1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1322490 [09:54] Ubuntu bug 1322490 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Clicking on the checkbox to disconnect from an ap sometimes disconnects but always leaves the box checked" [High,Confirmed] [09:54] sil2100: I have that line 20, but the landing-010 has the signon-ui :( [09:54] sil2100: but if signon-ui would be put to a separate landing, then you could just land that one [09:55] Wellark: 2) the indicator-network crashes we're getting on dialer-app and messaging-app test suites [09:56] Mirv: I would like that, let's try with dbarth [09:56] dbarth: how's landing-010 proceeding? [09:56] Oh [09:56] Mirv: give me a sign once you make the split ;) [09:56] (and if it's possible) [09:57] ok, a split it is then, regardless of how 010 is going [09:58] sil2100: split done, do you want to assign? I think you still need to ignore conflicts because of 002 [09:59] Mirv: let me try :) [09:59] sergiusens, 013 is building and should do the trick [10:01] mandel: yeah, I took the liberty to click on build :-) [10:04] sil2100: shall I build? [10:05] popey, please try calculator [10:06] Mirv: yes :) [10:06] Mirv: don't publish yet though! [10:07] sil2100, oh, given that the final gallery-app fix landed, should we roll an image with it ? [10:07] (that kind of got lost in the meeting due to the long discussion) [10:08] (well, once it is in the store as click at least) [10:08] fginther: k [10:08] fginther: looks like you did? [10:08] ogra_: I guess we could once it's in the store, as it's not like a new image will block us [10:09] right, and it might look even better [10:09] oh, there is also a hybris upload that wasnt in 45 [10:09] so i think we should do a build in any case [10:09] sergiusens, could you build the latest gallery-app for us ? [10:09] (if that didnt happen yet) [10:10] or poke bfiller or so [10:12] ricmm, do you know anything about that last hybris upload ? seems ricardo didnt rebuild android for it [10:15] popey, changes are all done [10:15] popey, also kicked off new jobs for the ones that had failed [10:16] thanks fginther [10:18] ogra_: hybris upload? no idea [10:18] either way some platform-api stuff landed last night [10:18] that needed an android rebuild [10:18] so todays image should be fine [10:19] right, i think that already went into 45 [10:20] i was wondering about the upload that happened after 45 was built [10:21] ogra_, we are still having issues running the app, is there anyone at the sprint who can help us, or can someone try the branch? [10:21] what app [10:21] ricmm, music-app we are trying to move to ubuntu-sdk-14.10-qml-dev1 [10:22] ricmm, so that then we can move to mediascanner2 and drop grilo from the image [10:22] ogra_, ricmm, this is the branch we have going https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/use-mediascanner2.0 [10:23] ahayzen_, the toolkit people should be able to help i suspect [10:24] ogra_, ok thanks we'll see if we can find someone [10:37] Ok, I jump out for a bit now, be back soon [10:37] Mirv: give me a ping once the silo is built ;) [10:38] sil2100: I'm going for a lunch here now etc, but it's building at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-000-1-build/1/console and it will probably take about 30min from now so that everything is also published === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:41] ogra_: build and upload? [11:42] dpm: wrt camera, bill can and should update all the system apps now, but I can do it this time as he's travelling [11:43] sergiusens, that'd be good if you could do it this once for camera to get this fix in. Otherwise, I'm happy to ping bill too [11:43] dpm: bill is flying now, so I'll do it ;-) [11:43] aha, now I get the traveling reference :) [11:43] and why I cannot see him around ;) [11:58] sergiusens, yes please [11:58] sil2100: it does not seem the spreadsheet is catching the 000 being built, but it's built anyhow [12:05] sergiusens, could you poke popey once that is done so it gets through ? [12:05] I guess I should try to land the "click chroot" support for ubuntu-sdk-14.10 today, since I've now had two MPs for it [12:08] cjwatson: i wanted to upgrade to latest devel image with command line [12:08] ran system-image-cli [12:08] that blocked for a bit then exited but nothing happened [12:08] barry: ^- could you look into that? [12:10] barry: i basically did what we discussed (since i dont have/want ubuntu one setup for the purpose of validating that we can upgrade without that) [12:10] barry: e.g. no ubuntu one credentials, run the command line [12:10] but nothing happened [12:10] let me know what info you need [12:11] barry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7505359/ [12:11] thats what i have in system-image/log [12:11] client.log [12:12] wonder what cancels it [12:12] maybe because the UI was aborting a day before when i didnt have ubuntu one credentials? [12:19] I noticed similar in a fresh x86 emulator instance that I created last week or so and hadn't done anything significant with yet, FWIW [12:20] I was in the process of recreating the emulator instance with a fresh image; but that's probably a quick way to reproduce it [12:22] Could somebody get https://code.launchpad.net/~click-hackers/click/devel/+merge/220794 into the landing process for me? Our usual lander is on vacation [12:25] Mirv: ok [12:25] Mirv: well, 000 is being treated specially [12:34] grumble grumble razzen frazzen... this unity8 crash keeps happening [12:37] cjwatson, asac: known regression in u-d-m: LP: #1320306. iiuc, mandel has a fix in progress [12:37] Launchpad bug 1320306 in ubuntu-download-manager "udm immediately sends a 'canceled' signal" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320306 [12:47] barry: asac that's in silo 13 [12:52] sil2100: will take care of 1) and 2) next week. commented on the bug. [12:53] Wellark: excellent, we're considering a switch in policy and soon even such crash can become a promotion blocker [12:54] sil2100: well, as long as you don't do it today ;) [12:54] Not yet I guess ;] [12:54] but I agree that none of the components should crash [12:54] uh, my smiley became all robotic and squarish [12:55] you need to detox from all this automation.. [12:55] Mirv: is the silo 000 tested and ready for release? [12:55] Mirv: since without the silo sheet it's hard to indicate that ;) [13:04] barry: so i cannot upgrade anymore? [13:04] barry: doesnt help me if there is a fix [13:04] i have a promoted image here [13:04] installed and now i cannot upgrade :/ [13:04] 28 i am on [13:04] asac: can you update if you reboot? [13:05] davmor2: you mean reboot and try again to run the cli? [13:05] sil2100: it is, in the sense of "I've installed it and I've looked at the debdiff". the only change to both is a build-dep change from qtsensors5-dev (transitional package) to libqt5sensors5-dev [13:05] i cannot upgrade in UI for sure because i dont have ubuntu one [13:05] asac: it's a problem. i couldn't even run my own test suite locally without cowboying in a fix. we really need to get dep8 integration tests into udm [13:05] asac: ouch [13:06] barry: the ubuntu one thing is a problem? [13:06] si-cli won't help, it still uses udm underneath [13:06] or that we are stuck? [13:06] but i am not the only person that was on #28 [13:06] why am i the only one stuck now? [13:06] anyway, let me reboot and try again [13:06] asac: U1 account is just sso you must have that to login to LP [13:06] asac: afaik, the u1 thing is a ui problem, separate from the udm canceled signal. si-cli *would* help with that [13:07] barry: ok, and udm can be better after reboot? [13:07] * asac rebooted [13:07] now tries [13:07] asac: see sergiusens's response above. that fix is in silo13 [13:08] so is everybody now stuck on #28? [13:08] oh [13:08] now it worked after reboot [13:08] good enough [13:08] sil2100: hey, can you check landing-015 (line 25). it has a QA sign-off needed, but that should be either removed (since not traincon-0 anymore) or QA should be pinged (since they assume they don't need to do those at the moment). [13:11] davmor2: barry : \o/ i am on #44 now [13:11] rebooting apparently cured the cli problem [13:11] asac: asac: yay! [13:11] thanks for the hint [13:11] \o/ [13:12] barry: mandel: so could you guys sit together and invent something that we all can call "bullet proof upgrading"? [13:12] i think that concept must assume that our normal stack will be broken eventually [13:12] and still useres should be able to upgrade without having to use adb [13:12] its very important that we somehow can resurrect our market products in case we did a mistake [13:12] (which can happen) [13:13] i assume we need a completely separate code path that can be triggered by something on system-image server [13:13] so we basically have two times the same code ... maybe just trailing [13:13] maybe completely different ;) [13:13] ... of ourse thats just one idea [13:13] asac, users wont be able to easily use adb in the shipped product [13:13] better ideas welcome [13:14] 15:12 < asac> and still useres should be able to upgrade without having to use adb [13:14] (it will be off by default) [13:14] right [13:14] i didnt say anything differnt [13:14] :) [13:14] just saying ... the adb path will be even more complex then [13:14] so for one we need a fastboot oem equiv for our market phones [13:15] but thats probably something the phone manufactur has to figure [13:15] Ok [13:15] unless they want to use fastboot [13:15] Mirv: it's not needer right now, let me remove that and publish [13:15] but i am talking about something else that is still UI and just ensures that if we messed thigns up [13:15] asac: i've been thinking about resurrecting the built-in download manager for s-i. it wouldn't use it by default, but it would be a fallback in cases such as this. [13:16] that plus dep8 integration tests for both si and udm (for which we have open bugs) [13:16] asac, we should use fastboot if possible, ellse we need to change our flash tool [13:16] and if we use fastboot anyway we can also ask for some similar unlock mechanism like we have on the nexus (probably called differently to not directly copy google) [13:18] barry, is the "can not write log as non root" issue still on your list ? we have a crash in the daily AP tests since nearly a year now, would really be nice to get rid of that wart some day [13:19] ogra_: it is. i'm working on si 2.3 this week and next [13:19] cool ! [13:19] ogra_: quick packaging +1 needed, easy change: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-015-2-publish/24/artifact/packaging_changes_messaging-app_0.1+14.10.20140522-0ubuntu1.diff <- more things installed simply [13:20] wheee ! MMS !! for the rich ones :) [13:20] sil2100, ackedy ack :) [13:21] Thanks :) [13:21] ;p [13:24] ogra_: you will be now personnally guilty if I receive any comercial mms on my phone… :p [13:24] didrocks, thats sergiusens' baby, not mine ... [13:24] also recieving doesnt cost anything ... [13:24] ogra_: you acked it, so I held you personnally responsible [13:25] ogra_: still, it's spam! :) [13:25] hah [13:25] as long as you dont send one ... [13:25] no chance for that :p [13:25] sending the complete phone per UPS to get your videos and pics across is cheaper than an MMS :) [13:25] * didrocks should mostly send one sms a month [13:25] ahah === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [13:28] hah ;) [13:31] ogra_, FYI after discussions with SDK people found you have to bump the policy version of appamor to 1.2 as well :) [13:31] aha ! [13:31] good to know. thanks === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:44] ogra_: another quick batch of packaging changes, prepared by Timo (so safe): https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-000-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtubuntu_0.54+14.10.20140523-0ubuntu1.diff and https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-000-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtubuntu-sensors_0.6+14.10.20140523-0ubuntu1.diff [13:44] ogra_: qtsensors5-dev is a transitional package [13:45] ogra_: so it's best to depend on the real one [13:45] sil2100, ack ... isnt Mirv core dev ? why do i have to ack that ? [13:46] ogra_: no, he's not [13:46] oh, k [13:46] i always thought he is :) [13:46] ogra_: he per-packaging upload powers though for the qt stack ;) [13:46] *he has [13:46] ah, right [13:47] sil2100, just a heads up, i'm seeding nuntium for MMS stuff (now didrocks can actually make me responsible :P ) [13:47] Finally! ;) [13:48] I mean, finally seeding, not 'finally ogra can be responsible' [13:48] well, only reception ... for sending we need golang-udm to get out of new [13:48] i pinged #ubuntu-release a few times over the last days ... but no reaction yet [13:53] (and sadly infinity is busy arguing with ScottK atm so i guess that last ping got unnoticed) [13:53] (now that was a subtle personal ping, wasn't it ? ;) ) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:01] ;) [14:02] Mirv, https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/kubuntu-packaging/qtdeclarative-opensource-src_fixpkgname/+merge/220601 didnt have an accompanying -gles upload, did it ? [14:25] ogra_: nope, since the packages affected are not in the -gles package [14:25] ah, k [14:25] this time I'd have remembered it otherwise :) [14:26] heh [14:56] popey, are you around ? (is the new gallery-app in the store ? ) [14:57] Damn, today is a crazy day [14:59] travel preparations ? [15:07] ogra_: no idea, i haven't been involved [15:08] "Approved by Sergio Schvezov on 2014-05-22 15:54 - 23 hours, 13 minutes ago" [15:08] so no [15:09] could you let it in or are you already traveling ? [15:10] ogra_: back from exercise and I hate you :p [15:10] hah, why ? [15:11] "(now didrocks can actually make me responsible :P )" [15:11] heh [15:11] and no, I won't feed the troll on #ubuntu-release :p [15:11] lol [15:12] that was my little vengeance for all the thunder and rain you sent up north ! [15:12] ogra_: ahah, *blue sky* here :p [15:12] ogra_: that too, but in overall there's a lot to do today [15:12] Anyway, I think the worst is over [15:12] ;) [15:12] (a little too much actually, my openstack tee-shirt is too grey and get heat :p) [15:13] didrocks, yeah, i forwarded that stuff in sil2100's direction ... blue sky here now too again [15:13] ahah! [15:13] Yeah, been outside today as well, cursing my habit of wearing only black [15:13] Thought I'll die [15:13] ogra_: its not been submitted [15:13] ogra_: i am here all evening [15:13] sil2100, oh, didnt the thunderstorms arrive yet ? [15:13] but we are all sat around watching lightning talks [15:14] i thought they move further north east [15:14] ogra_: no, not yet - not here at least! [15:14] hmm, and sergio seems to be off [15:14] I beg youuu, give me raain [15:14] haha [15:14] yeah, it was quire refreshing last night [15:14] ogra_: who can also help us out with getting gallery-app released? [15:15] well, usually sergio is my point of contact [15:15] i guess bfiller could too [15:15] you need to ask sergio or bfiller, yes [15:18] I don't see Bill online sadly [15:18] popey: what about Timo (Mirv)? Can he help us as well maybe? [15:19] i see Mirv across the room [15:19] wait 10 mins when the lightning talks finish and you'll get replies no doubt [15:20] ++ [15:20] popey: excellent, thanks Alan! [15:20] * sil2100 noticed that popey and davmor2 are best messagers ever [15:21] i spy people leaving for the bar [15:21] will ask people to talk to you [15:23] sil2100: bill has left [15:23] what exactly do you need doing? [15:23]