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| belkinsa | #startmeeting Ubuntu Scientists | 19:00 |
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| belkinsa | Er, the meetingbot is gone. | 19:00 |
| belkinsa | Anyways, who is for the Ubuntu Scientists meeting? | 19:00 |
| Aleo | Me - Alejandro | 19:01 |
| * balachmar raises hand | 19:01 | |
| belkinsa | #chair belkinsa | 19:01 |
| belkinsa | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/Meetings/Agenda/05232014 | 19:01 |
| belkinsa | Anyone else? | 19:01 |
| belkinsa | Okay, let's start... | 19:02 |
| belkinsa | #topic Set up monthly meetings | 19:02 |
| belkinsa | First of all, are too young as team for having monthly meetings? | 19:02 |
| balachmar | is that a question, or a statement? :) | 19:03 |
| belkinsa | Even though monthly meetings creates a better focus for the team. | 19:03 |
| Aleo | I think it is better to have monthly meetings | 19:03 |
| belkinsa | Question, and I meant are we too* | 19:03 |
| balachmar | Monthly meetings are a good idea I think | 19:03 |
| balachmar | It is not too often, so it doesn't consume a lot of time | 19:04 |
| belkinsa | Right, meetings should be under an hour. | 19:04 |
| balachmar | +1 :) | 19:04 |
| belkinsa | Should we do this time and the last Friday of the month? Or something else? | 19:05 |
| Aleo | I think that maybe the time for meeting we can change | 19:05 |
| Aleo | I made mistake in calculation, so I am at 4:00 (am). | 19:05 |
| balachmar | For me this is a good time, but depending on the other participants, we might need to rotate times or something | 19:05 |
| belkinsa | What you have in mind? | 19:05 |
| Aleo | For me earlier or later is ok. Last friday of the month is ok for me | 19:06 |
| balachmar | thursdays work a little better for me, but I can do fridays as well | 19:06 |
| belkinsa | Alright. I will do a call on the mailing-list on a better time/day. | 19:07 |
| belkinsa | #action belkinsa Make a call on mailing-list about monthly meeting time/day | 19:07 |
| balachmar | sure, and if times vary a lot, rotating could help | 19:07 |
| Aleo | If possible let's work on UTC time from the beginning, so it is easier to calculate | 19:08 |
| balachmar | sure times need to be communicated in utc | 19:08 |
| belkinsa | Sorry about that, it was Doodle's fault when I shut off the timezone setting. | 19:08 |
| belkinsa | And I will ask about rotating the times/days. | 19:09 |
| balachmar | no worries | 19:09 |
| Aleo | no prob | 19:09 |
| belkinsa | Are we ready to move on? | 19:09 |
| balachmar | yep | 19:09 |
| Aleo | yes | 19:09 |
| belkinsa | #topic vUDS Prep | 19:10 |
| belkinsa | Again, is this needed for the team or not? | 19:10 |
| belkinsa | Also, I was asked to be a track lead. | 19:10 |
| belkinsa | So, I think I can do another track. | 19:10 |
| balachmar | I am not sure, never attended a vUDS | 19:10 |
| balachmar | They are normally during my work hours... | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | vUDS is June 10 to June 12. Times for the tracks are unknown at this moment. | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | vUDS's seem to be for many. | 19:11 |
| belkinsa | balachmar ^^^ | 19:11 |
| Aleo | What type of activity or role do we have for vUDS? that would be different from normal meetings? | 19:12 |
| belkinsa | Tracks are splints that are planning for the cycle (14.10 for example) and blueprints are created with those goals and the monthly meetings we work on them. | 19:13 |
| balachmar | Would you like to use a vUDS to draw more attention to this? | 19:14 |
| balachmar | Because we can make blueprints without a vUDS as well | 19:14 |
| belkinsa | It would be a use and maybe we could get help from the outside world (the rest of the COmmunity) | 19:15 |
| Aleo | We can try to participate on the next vUDS, but again the time of the meetings would be a concern. | 19:17 |
| belkinsa | That can work. | 19:17 |
| Aleo | They are to be held on Tue ~ Thu. | 19:18 |
| balachmar | But we need not all be present at a vUDS | 19:18 |
| balachmar | just a "delegation" with some prepared work | 19:19 |
| belkinsa | Not all. The lead and the ones who want to join in either in G+ Hangouts or just plain old IRC. | 19:19 |
| balachmar | I would at least do some preparation together to make sure there is some concensus | 19:20 |
| belkinsa | +1 | 19:21 |
| Aleo | Yes, I think that would be good. | 19:21 |
| belkinsa | Do you want to take that action item, balachmar, on mailing the list about the prep and working up a blueprint draft? | 19:21 |
| balachmar | belkinsa, to be honest I am a bit short on time at the moment... | 19:22 |
| belkinsa | Okay, I can take it if you don't mind. | 19:22 |
| balachmar | I don't mind | 19:23 |
| balachmar | I will try to pitch in as much as possible | 19:23 |
| belkinsa | #action belkinsa Work on vUDS Prep and mail the mailing-list | 19:23 |
| belkinsa | I understand. | 19:23 |
| belkinsa | Ready to move on? | 19:24 |
| balachmar | yep | 19:24 |
| Aleo | Yes | 19:24 |
| belkinsa | #topic Discussion of team's goals | 19:25 |
| belkinsa | #https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-scientists/+spec/goals | 19:25 |
| belkinsa | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-scientists/+spec/goals | 19:25 |
| belkinsa | I believe this was yours, balachmar. Want to talk about them, if you have anything else to add? | 19:26 |
| balachmar | By the way, I am just reading about the meetingology, pretty cool :) | 19:26 |
| belkinsa | It is. | 19:27 |
| balachmar | Well, I just wanted to find out what the goal(s) of the group would be | 19:27 |
| belkinsa | But there seem to be missing bot issues around the Community. | 19:27 |
| balachmar | Because the initial description was a bit vague, and could be interpreted as any one of those | 19:28 |
| belkinsa | I think they are good ones. | 19:28 |
| belkinsa | I think I know who we can contact for that fourth item. | 19:28 |
| balachmar | But I do think we should try to pick one or two of them to start with (I would actually propose one) | 19:29 |
| belkinsa | +1 | 19:29 |
| balachmar | And then work one that goal, until we have something good for that and then pick another. | 19:29 |
| belkinsa | I like this idea. | 19:29 |
| belkinsa | Aleo, what do you think? | 19:30 |
| balachmar | But in the OSS mentality, obviously if someone comes in with a real passion for any of those items (s)he is free to pursue | 19:30 |
| belkinsa | Indeed. | 19:30 |
| Aleo | Yes, I was also thinking similarly, about separating in groups to handle them. But we are lacking in manpower | 19:30 |
| balachmar | Aleo, that is why at the moment we should just pick one and go for that one | 19:31 |
| Aleo | so as balachmar proposes it should be better to handle one at a time. | 19:31 |
| balachmar | 2 and 3 are very difficult and long term | 19:31 |
| belkinsa | 4 may have some leads that are outside the Ubuntu Community that I can contact. | 19:31 |
| balachmar | It seems that belkinsa already has an idea for at least one success story | 19:32 |
| Aleo | Ok, I would like to add one more more. | 19:32 |
| Aleo | sorry to ask one more | 19:32 |
| belkinsa | Go ahead. | 19:32 |
| Aleo | This blueprint page can be edited by anyone, correct? | 19:32 |
| belkinsa | Correct. | 19:32 |
| Aleo | No need to be a member of the group, correct? | 19:33 |
| belkinsa | I believe so. | 19:33 |
| balachmar | I think you need to be part of the group | 19:34 |
| Aleo | Ok, that was it. Most of the wiki/documentation is public, so I was wondering if we needed a special "privilege" to edit the documentation. | 19:35 |
| Aleo | Anyway, let's work on No. 1 then. | 19:35 |
| belkinsa | Anyone can edit the wiki. | 19:35 |
| belkinsa | You need a LP and a Ubuntu SSO account. | 19:36 |
| belkinsa | If you need help, you can aways ask in #ubuntu-doc or e-mail the doc team's mailing-list. | 19:36 |
| balachmar | So, for goal#1, there already exists http://www.osalt.com/ etc | 19:36 |
| balachmar | But I think it is useful if we would start a wiki or something to group tools/software into categories that are geared towards scientists | 19:37 |
| belkinsa | I was too and I know that Ubuntu Community Help Wiki has that page on software. | 19:38 |
| belkinsa | (Switching topics since we are talking about it) | 19:38 |
| belkinsa | #topic Discussion of what should be on our Wiki Team Pages. | 19:38 |
| belkinsa | #topic Discussion of what should be on our Wiki Team Pages | 19:38 |
| belkinsa | Maybe we can link that page somewhere on our team pages | 19:39 |
| Aleo | Is this different from blueprints page? | 19:39 |
| belkinsa | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/ | 19:39 |
| belkinsa | Yes, it's our wiki stuff. | 19:39 |
| Aleo | Ok, thank you | 19:39 |
| belkinsa | It's where we have the resources to help people. And bookkeeping. | 19:40 |
| Aleo | So, let's start by introducing the team goals | 19:40 |
| balachmar | ok, so I think there we should have an overview of what we did | 19:40 |
| belkinsa | Sure. | 19:41 |
| balachmar | So indeed start with the goals we identified, but clearly mention the goals we currently focus on | 19:41 |
| belkinsa | Alright, should this be on the homepage (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/) or another page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/Goals)? | 19:41 |
| balachmar | Then maybe also a small snipper about the people currently involved | 19:41 |
| belkinsa | We could. | 19:42 |
| Aleo | Maybe in the same | 19:42 |
| balachmar | I think at the home page, it is the first thing I would want to know | 19:42 |
| Aleo | For starters | 19:42 |
| balachmar | snipper = snippets obviously | 19:42 |
| belkinsa | Okay, I was thinking that to but I still wanted to ask. | 19:42 |
| balachmar | And for one of the success stories a small excerpt | 19:43 |
| belkinsa | #action belkinsa Contact Open Science to see if there is some success stories | 19:43 |
| belkinsa | Okay, and then we can have a large page with other stories. | 19:43 |
| balachmar | ok, so what differentiates us from Open Science? | 19:44 |
| balachmar | brb | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | We are of the Ubuntu and it's favours Community and they are a mix of Dirstos and other things | 19:44 |
| belkinsa | What I meant was that we are Ubuntu and it's favours users and we are within this Community and I think we can make some impact. | 19:45 |
| Aleo | To be clear open science is openscience.org? | 19:45 |
| belkinsa | Yes. | 19:45 |
| Aleo | ok, thank you | 19:46 |
| belkinsa | Wait, no, I meant them: http://opensciencefederation.com/ | 19:46 |
| belkinsa | But I can look at them. | 19:46 |
| * balachmar is back | 19:46 | |
| belkinsa | Just like Ubuntu Women (sorry, I had to go back on what I said before). | 19:46 |
| balachmar | ok, sure then I get it | 19:47 |
| balachmar | I thought that open science was also a group within ubuntu space | 19:47 |
| belkinsa | Ah. | 19:47 |
| Aleo | yes, me too | 19:47 |
| balachmar | I have no problem with having a similar theme specific to ubuntu | 19:48 |
| balachmar | as long as we try to communicate well with other initiatives | 19:48 |
| balachmar | no need to do double work | 19:48 |
| belkinsa | +1 | 19:48 |
| Aleo | ok, so the large page, that belkinsa mentioned is part of the wiki? | 19:48 |
| belkinsa | Yes. Something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/Stories | 19:49 |
| balachmar | For example with FLOSS alternatives, I think it might be useful to also state how widespread the use is. | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | Also we need a page titled https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/Resources | 19:50 |
| Aleo | I propose something | 19:50 |
| belkinsa | balachmar, we should. | 19:51 |
| belkinsa | Aleo, go a head. | 19:51 |
| belkinsa | ahead* | 19:51 |
| balachmar | For example, I work in data analysis/statistics, and there are quite a few closed source packages, but R for instance is very wide spread. Also used in industry a lot. | 19:51 |
| balachmar | Aleo, go ahead | 19:51 |
| Aleo | Since belkinsa mentioned the project. So, for starters why don't we copy the structure of the Ubuntu Wome's wiki page and use it as the base for our wiki page | 19:52 |
| Aleo | This is. Project, Whois, Meetings and events, Projects, Resources, Guidelines. | 19:52 |
| belkinsa | We could but I think it's easily copyable. | 19:52 |
| Aleo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen | 19:53 |
| belkinsa | Because they have their own wiki not on the Ubuntu Wiki. | 19:53 |
| belkinsa | Oh, that page? | 19:53 |
| Aleo | As a starting point | 19:53 |
| belkinsa | I never know that existed! | 19:53 |
| belkinsa | knew* | 19:54 |
| balachmar | yep, the shois section would be useful indeed | 19:54 |
| belkinsa | I like that idea, Aleo. | 19:54 |
| balachmar | me too | 19:54 |
| Aleo | I have never edited an Ubuntu wiki, but I can volunteer to try | 19:54 |
| belkinsa | Sure, I can help you, Aleo. | 19:55 |
| * belkinsa is a part of the Doc Team | 19:55 | |
| belkinsa | Correction, is the driver for the Wiki Sub-team. | 19:55 |
| belkinsa | Aleo, do you want to do this in a sandbox page first? | 19:56 |
| Aleo | Sure | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | Okay | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | #action Aleo work out a wiki team page | 19:56 |
| Aleo | I will ask if I cannot do. | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | Alright. | 19:56 |
| belkinsa | Are we set on this item? | 19:57 |
| Aleo | If it is ok, let's set that as a goal/target for the month. | 19:57 |
| belkinsa | Sure. | 19:57 |
| Aleo | Yes | 19:57 |
| belkinsa | #topic AOB | 19:57 |
| balachmar | I have no other business :) | 19:58 |
| belkinsa | Oh, I so misread that Aleo. | 19:58 |
| belkinsa | But sure we can set that as ours. | 19:58 |
| Aleo | what is AOB? | 19:59 |
| balachmar | any other business | 19:59 |
| belkinsa | Any Other Business. | 19:59 |
| Aleo | ahhh | 19:59 |
| Aleo | jaja, No more business | 19:59 |
| belkinsa | Alright. Ending meeting now | 19:59 |
| belkinsa | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| balachmar | So I think we can/should steal the Whois part of the women, with profiles of the people involved and then interviews would be our success stories | 19:59 |
| belkinsa | Thank you all for coming to the meeting. | 20:00 |
| balachmar | sure, you are welcome | 20:00 |
| belkinsa | balachmar, I like this idea. | 20:00 |
| Aleo | Ok, noted | 20:01 |
| balachmar | although the profiles could be a little more extensive then just a table, with this few people | 20:01 |
| belkinsa | Yeah. | 20:02 |
| belkinsa | But we can do something else. | 20:02 |
| balachmar | I would then also include a short bio, which might allows them to make a more educated choice on who to contact | 20:02 |
| balachmar | but that will grow over time | 20:02 |
| belkinsa | I hope it does. | 20:02 |
| balachmar | mmm, for some reason the wiki is having troubles logging me in using my u1 account... | 20:03 |
| belkinsa | You need a LP account and we need to move this over to our channel | 20:03 |
| balachmar | ok, sure | 20:03 |
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