| jrwren | why do you need switchable ctrl / caps lock? just make whatever OS you are using do that. | 00:56 |
|---|---|---|
| jrwren | i can't even use computers with kb that don't capslock as ctrl anymore :( | 00:56 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: I was wondering about chromeos | 01:00 |
| rick_h_ | I don't know if it has a method to change that mapping for ctrl-t and w and such for opening/closing tabs | 01:00 |
| waf | cmaloney: yeah, we're monitoring it. might hang around australia for a bit waiting for things to calm down | 01:02 |
| jrwren | *gasp* | 01:05 |
| jrwren | could be a show stopper for me on chromeos | 01:05 |
| cmaloney | waf: Hope you all stay safe | 01:06 |
| waf | thanks | 01:07 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/177875?hl=en | 01:07 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: right, I was just explaining to jrwren why I cared | 01:08 |
| mrgoodcat | ah | 01:08 |
| mrgoodcat | i really ought to make bookiebot handle netsplits better | 01:08 |
| mrgoodcat | currently just times out and quits | 01:08 |
| mrgoodcat | they're slowly adding functionality to chromeos that "full" operating systems have | 01:16 |
| mrgoodcat | the little things like screenshots and remapping | 01:16 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: just went to my keyboard settings and remapped my keys. not only can you remap the meta keys, but there is an option to use the media keys as f keys like they are in ubuntu (a major pain point for me in chrome os) | 01:22 |
| mrgoodcat | http://imgur.com/Rk23mmo | 01:22 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/uJGjOf - imgur: the simple image sharer | 01:22 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: coolio | 01:23 |
| mrgoodcat | bourbon chocolate sauce | 02:51 |
| mrgoodcat | mmmmmm | 02:51 |
| jrwren | party party | 13:05 |
| rick_h_ | thief! | 13:06 |
| brousch_ | partly party | 13:06 |
| jrwren | immitation is flatery. | 13:07 |
| brousch_ | Portly Patty pooted prettily past Patrick's potty party. | 13:12 |
| jrwren | i do'n't know that I've ever heard that one | 13:13 |
| brousch_ | I just made it up | 13:18 |
| mrgoodcat | potty party? | 13:19 |
| brousch_ | mrgoodcat: Interested? | 13:21 |
| jrwren | whoa, more reason to ddg http://www.metafilter.com/139305/The-Mother-of-All-Self-Links | 13:41 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/PcQiEu - The Mother of All Self Links? | MetaFilter | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | What exactly does Metafilter do? | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | I've never quite understood that site. | 13:48 |
| mrgoodcat | should just go home now instead of at lunch | 13:49 |
| mrgoodcat | "google is breaking the internet" seems like a bit of a dramatic title... | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | Well, it's breaking Metafilter. | 13:50 |
| mrgoodcat | sorry your business model revolved around the support of a company that has exactly zero financial interest in you | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | so they have a vested self-interest | 13:50 |
| brousch_ | metafilter is like fark/dig or a poor-man's reddit | 13:52 |
| brousch_ | digg? | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | So basically a community of folks that post links to stuff on the internet. | 13:55 |
| brousch_ | yes | 13:56 |
| brousch_ | But with a website theme right from 1998 | 13:57 |
| jrwren | i never understood metafilter either. | 14:01 |
| mrgoodcat | it's pretty much exactly the kind of thing that the google updates are trying to stop | 14:06 |
| mrgoodcat | also ebay. glad something is being done about ebayspam | 14:06 |
| brousch_ | ebayspam? | 14:09 |
| mrgoodcat | seems like every time i search for anything, multiple google results will be ebayers trying to sell me that thing | 14:10 |
| mrgoodcat | here's the link to the article if you haven't seen it http://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2014/05/21/panda-4 | 14:11 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/RSVg9N - Panda 4.0: Why eBay Just Lost 80% of its Organic Rankings | WordStream | 14:12 |
| mrgoodcat | also, the google results you get that point to ebay are usually crap | 14:12 |
| mrgoodcat | it's not even useful if i'm trying to find something on ebay | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | eBay has gone into the shitter anyway | 14:40 |
| mrgoodcat | yea. the organic links to ebay ALL suck. the prices aren't great anymore. buyers hate it. sellers hate it. | 14:41 |
| cmaloney | I used to sell on eBay. I just closed my account yesterday | 14:42 |
| cmaloney | I know other folks who routinely post stuff on eBay and have constantly bitched about how they screw sellers. | 14:42 |
| cmaloney | frankly I find the whole thing a race to the bottom. | 14:42 |
| mrgoodcat | i find when i sell used stuff i have the best luck just selling to friends | 14:44 |
| mrgoodcat | i probably sell for less money but i get to feel like i gave someone i know a deal and i know i'm not going to get shanked like craigslist deals | 14:45 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I've never used, nor do I plan on using Craigslist | 14:48 |
| brousch_ | I have used it twice and it went well both times :P | 14:51 |
| brousch_ | But then I don't live in The D | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: Right, but we're not trolling the "missed connections" portions. :) | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | you: running away screaming "help, please get this creep away from me". | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | me: madly in love. | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | Call me. | 14:53 |
| brousch_ | I got my son's drum set for $60 on Craigslist :P | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | So we've accounted for both times. :) | 14:56 |
| mrgoodcat | craigslist isn't inherently bad. just sometimes can be kinda shady | 15:00 |
| mrgoodcat | craigslist deals gone wrong are pretty commonplace in the news | 15:00 |
| mrgoodcat | also brousch_ :< Detroit is fine you be nice | 15:01 |
| brousch_ | i imagine every Craigslist deal in Detroit involves guns and a posse | 15:02 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 15:14 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - Liquid Fire by Gojira on L'Enfant Sauvage | 15:14 |
| * cmaloney fucking loves this album | 15:14 | |
| mrgoodcat | anybody use the new beta.congress.gov? | 15:45 |
| greg-g | holy https://www.privacyinternational.org/blog/what-does-gchq-know-about-our-devices-that-we-dont | 15:57 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/2aKBz2 - What does GCHQ know about our devices that we don't? | Privacy International | 15:57 |
| mrgoodcat | yea i saw that yesterday. it kind of scared me | 15:58 |
| mrgoodcat | like why the hell would they care about keyboard controllers? | 15:58 |
| mrgoodcat | could it be something innocuous like a buffer that doesn't get flushed immediately? | 15:58 |
| jrwren | its related to aliens. | 16:00 |
| jrwren | you see, aliens can read the historical contents of larger transistors like ones used in KB controllers. | 16:01 |
| cmaloney | Or the "take no chances" mentality | 16:01 |
| jrwren | foreign governments have been working with the aliens to obtain data from large transistor keybaord controllers | 16:01 |
| cmaloney | though in this day and age I'm sure it's because there's some buffering going on | 16:01 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm sure it's buffering related to regular use | 16:02 |
| mrgoodcat | that could potentially be used to store the data even if the hard drives are changed out | 16:02 |
| mrgoodcat | "technically possible" | 16:02 |
| mrgoodcat | for all the privacy nuts out there https://www.eff.org/privacybadger | 16:11 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/AJEihN - Privacy Badger | Electronic Frontier Foundation | 16:11 |
| greg-g | I'm going with jrwren's analysis. | 16:12 |
| cmaloney | heh | 16:12 |
| cmaloney | Man HP must be a huge company if they can axe 16,000 folks: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/05/hp-axes-up-to-16000-more-jobs/ | 16:36 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/DQG9r7 - HP axes up to 16,000 more jobs | Ars Technica | 16:36 |
| greg-g | linkedin just says "10,000+" | 16:37 |
| greg-g | oh wait, no, LinkedIn itself knows of "258,279 Employees on LinkedIn" | 16:38 |
| greg-g | the first was just the category it was placed in | 16:38 |
| cmaloney | Probably added 16,000 today. | 16:38 |
| cmaloney | http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/05/hp-axes-up-to-16000-more-jobs/?comments=1&post=26900123 | 16:39 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/nHtdqo - HP axes up to 16,000 more jobs | Ars Technica | 16:39 |
| greg-g | does bookiebot automatically add urls from this channel to a bmark.us bookiebot account? | 16:41 |
| greg-g | that'd be neat | 16:41 |
| greg-g | one of the tags would be the username of the person who pasted it | 16:41 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh, new feature on the way | 16:41 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:41 |
| jrwren | jcastro: did you ever publish those ES and LS charms? | 16:51 |
| jcastro | yeah but they're not in the official store | 16:56 |
| jcastro | there's one bug left for ES | 16:56 |
| jcastro | with a relation, but I have a dude working on it | 16:57 |
| jcastro | logstash is fine though, so is kibana | 16:57 |
| jrwren | for LS, do you run ES and LS on same node? | 16:57 |
| jcastro | no | 16:57 |
| jcastro | you can if you want though | 16:57 |
| greg-g | heh, we were just talking about finally upgrading our Logstash ES cluster to 1.1.0 today :) | 16:58 |
| jrwren | huh, i'm trying 1.3.3 here | 16:58 |
| greg-g | (and today they releasesed 1.2.0) | 16:58 |
| jrwren | oh, that is LS | 16:58 |
| jrwren | ES is 1.0.3 | 16:58 |
| jrwren | lame | 16:58 |
| jrwren | I need newer | 16:58 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:58 |
| rick_h_ | at least you're over 1.0 | 16:58 |
| jrwren | i'm not running it AT ALL | 16:58 |
| jrwren | cuz it doesn't work. | 16:58 |
| jrwren | cuz... its really shitty software | 16:58 |
| rick_h_ | oh, well in that case | 16:59 |
| jrwren | but, I want to believe. | 16:59 |
| jrwren | well, not really I don't want to. | 16:59 |
| jrwren | cuz, jabba | 16:59 |
| greg-g | which is? ES or LS or all of it? | 16:59 |
| jrwren | all of it. | 16:59 |
| rick_h_ | all good search is jabba really | 16:59 |
| jcastro | there is no escape | 16:59 |
| greg-g | yeah | 16:59 |
| jrwren | spews b.s. zen.ping.unicast nonsense to logs | 16:59 |
| greg-g | we moved all of our search to ES. All of it. | 16:59 |
| jrwren | honestly, I'd rather port kibana to postgresql :p | 17:00 |
| jcastro | jrwren, the current charm in the store works | 17:00 |
| jcastro | it's just not the fancy ansible-based one | 17:00 |
| jcastro | which is sexu | 17:00 |
| jrwren | imma try ES 1.2.x and LS 1.4.x | 17:01 |
| jrwren | i haven't looked at this since March | 17:01 |
| jcastro | I'll have the hadoop-es plugin in a few weeks too | 17:03 |
| jrwren | jcastro lubs jabba :p | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | heh, companies lubba lubba jabba | 17:12 |
| jrwren | truth | 17:14 |
| jrwren | companies lubba lubba existing software. The sad part is that there so so much jabba software existing :) | 17:15 |
| jrwren | jcastro: any reason those charms pull jars themselves instead of using packages.elasticsearch.org ? | 17:16 |
| rick_h_ | yep | 17:16 |
| jrwren | yeah? | 17:16 |
| jcastro | I don't think packages existed at the time | 17:16 |
| jrwren | old school | 17:17 |
| jcastro | the new one does | 17:18 |
| jrwren | cool | 17:18 |
| jrwren | imma find this new one... someday | 17:18 |
| cmaloney | ?> | 17:20 |
| jcastro | jrwren, sorry, here it is http://manage.jujucharms.com/~michael.nelson/precise/elasticsearch | 17:37 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/H4QZYI - Juju Charms | 17:37 |
| jrwren | lp:~michael.nelson/charms/precise/elasticsearch/trunk YAY! | 17:40 |
| jcastro | that's the one with a relationship/peering bug though | 17:43 |
| jcastro | but it will replace the charm in the store soonish | 17:44 |
| jrwren | the charm installs ansible? | 17:45 |
| jrwren | man, you have to be guru to know juju :p | 17:46 |
| jcastro | ansible's doing a bunch of heavy lifting already | 17:46 |
| jcastro | so might as well reuse it | 17:47 |
| jrwren | makes sense | 17:47 |
| mrgoodcat | .reload | 17:47 |
| bookiebot | reloaded 26 plugins in 0.010538 seconds | 17:47 |
| jcastro | same thing if it was chef or puppet | 17:47 |
| mrgoodcat | new feature incoming | 17:47 |
| jrwren | still, how much do you use ansible? should it be in juju or in ansible? is juju just built on ansible? it has a strange feeling to it. | 17:48 |
| jcastro | juju executes whatever you want | 17:48 |
| jrwren | indeed. | 17:49 |
| jcastro | so however you cobble it together is fine with us | 17:49 |
| jrwren | that is true of anything that exposes an exec call :p | 17:49 |
| jcastro | for a bunch of people, if they have config management systems already | 17:49 |
| jcastro | then they can just add juju for orchestration | 17:49 |
| jcastro | without throwing away years of cookbooks or whatever they have | 17:49 |
| jcastro | ansible is lightweight and powerful, our webops guys like it | 17:50 |
| jcastro | do that for machine stuff, juju for orchestration, it's a nice combo | 17:50 |
| cmaloney | OK, this is in the "Vim gives you superpowers" category. | 17:57 |
| cmaloney | <C>-V and select a boxed area. Hit [c] and type what you want changed. | 17:58 |
| cmaloney | Each record in that boxed area will be changed. | 17:58 |
| cmaloney | Even the basics of vim can feel like magic. | 17:58 |
| cmaloney | What's even better is I was using Alembic which already gives you superpowers | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | so it's like superpower superpowers with a side of super | 18:02 |
| mrgoodcat | if i had a macbook... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00686OWEU/?tag=047-20 | 18:20 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/yhNPT - Amazon.com: Sub Zero Macbook Decal Mac Apple skin sticker: Everything Else | 18:20 |
| brousch_ | mrgoodcat: Have your seen the skins for c720? | 18:23 |
| mrgoodcat | no are there good ones? | 18:23 |
| brousch_ | http://www.decalgirl.com/skins/Acer-Chromebook-C720-Skins | 18:25 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/qHfCcQ - Acer Chromebook C720 Skins | DecalGirl | 18:25 |
| mrgoodcat | some of those look pretty cool | 18:27 |
| mrgoodcat | might have to try | 18:27 |
| mrgoodcat | except i have stickers already | 18:27 |
| cmaloney | Hah, I like that sub zero one | 18:27 |
| cmaloney | though I'd rather have Ken from Street Fighter. | 18:27 |
| brousch_ | I bookmarked this one as a present for my son http://www.decalgirl.com/artwork/5234/Acer-Chromebook-C720-Skin-Animal-Face | 18:28 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/mm2GmC - Animal Face by The Muppets | DecalGirl | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: That's awesome. | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | Though wish they integrated more with the chrome ball | 18:29 |
| mrgoodcat | i have some stickers already though | 18:30 |
| mrgoodcat | not sure i want them covered | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | Also wonder how many of these are "licensed" or are they just wallpaper rips. | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | I'm seeing a lot of Disney stuff on here. | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | They're usually pretty protective of their IP | 18:31 |
| mrgoodcat | i like the black ones | 18:31 |
| cmaloney | http://www.decalgirl.com/brands/Tron-Legacy | 18:31 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ShjdmC - Tron | DecalGirl | 18:31 |
| cmaloney | my smell-test just went off. | 18:31 |
| jcastro | I would so get these | 18:31 |
| cmaloney | I need a new laptop to junk up though. :) | 18:32 |
| jcastro | my chromebook is becoming my favorite | 18:33 |
| jcastro | need to get another one to put ubuntu on | 18:33 |
| brousch_ | jcastro: What Chromebook? | 18:34 |
| jcastro | acer C720 | 18:34 |
| brousch_ | 4GB? | 18:37 |
| mrgoodcat | i wish mine was 4 | 18:44 |
| brousch_ | wuss | 18:45 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: it has the disney copyright symbol on it. makes me think its probably licensed | 18:45 |
| mrgoodcat | wuss? | 18:45 |
| mrgoodcat | mine is 2 and seems to do alright. just wish it was upgradeable | 18:45 |
| mrgoodcat | i haven't run into any ram issues yet | 18:46 |
| brousch_ | Then you're not pushing it hard enough! | 18:47 |
| mathomastech | So quite here today. Someone, make some noise! | 23:54 |
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